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^Alitasomeone sets it's start script to not executable, but before i want to know if it's necessary or not00:00
SiDiit looks like it builds a database for fast searches in Synaptic00:03
SiDiyou can remove it if you want00:03
SiDiits apt-xapian-index00:03
^Alitauhm, ok, i will disable it00:04
^Alitai hope next version they will develop it a little less annoying :)00:04
SiDii never had problems with it00:05
SiDii never ever noticed it.00:05
^Alitai think because a- you have a better pc them mine, b.00:06
^Alitab- in your pc it never started00:06
micahghi00:07
^Alitaon my pc every time it starts the system become unusable00:07
micahgis there an app in xubuntu to control the cpu frequency00:07
SiDi^Alita: especially b : i almost never use synaptic00:13
SiDimicahg: right click the applet and add the CPU Freq applet00:14
^AlitaSiDi, maybe :)00:14
micahgSiDi: I don't see that00:14
micahgis it in Jaunty?00:15
SiDimicahg: yes00:15
SiDimicahg: i think it was on intrepid too00:15
micahgSiDi: which one: xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpu-freq-plugin?00:15
SiDimicahg: aha, good question :o)00:16
micahgI'm installed the one at .2 instead of .0100:16
micahgSiDi: it seems like they just display the current setting, but they don't allow you to control it00:19
micahgah00:19
micahgI found it00:19
micahgit's the governor plugin00:19
SiDimicahg: right00:20
SiDimicahg: sorry, forgot it had a strange name00:20
micahgSiDi: I goofed again00:20
micahgif you click on the freq applet00:21
micahgit allows you to control it00:21
* micahg didn't know there were more applets00:21
mikubuntuguys.  trying to help my friend with his laptop.  he had ubuntu running for several months, then started having some probs that i've never had.  he couldn't log on a lot of times, said that ubuntu would fill in random letters in his username spot, etc... anyways i suggested he do a fresh install, but i'm trying to go through it with him over the phone and we're getting stuck.  when it gets...01:09
mikubuntu...to the language select page, it won't accept 'enter' to get by.  also, making some strange noises.  i'm worried might be hard drive... but even if hdd was bad, shouldn't it load up live?01:09
micahgmikubuntu: could the keyboard be bad?01:11
mikubuntuanother postibility01:14
mikubuntui wonder if there is a possibility that the particular disk he is using has errors.  i'm having him to run pick up some other disks that i burned with another friend up there, in case thats the problem.  got an xubuntu, a fluxbuntu, an ubuntu 7.10, 8.04 and 8.10, and those are disks that i burned myself and have used for installs.  hopefully that will either fix, or narrow down the problem...01:28
mikubuntu...prognosis.01:28
QuantumKaoshi how do i install drivers? in general i mean. what in kubuntu would have been system settings01:28
knomemikubuntu, he can check the cd for errors, but i doubt that if he has got the OS installed.01:28
knomeQuantumKaos, system -> hardware drivers01:29
QuantumKaosknomw: that only brings me to a limited interface that tells me to install the "modem" driver, but id like to install the specific driver of each peripheal01:29
mikubuntuwell, he can't even really check the cd, cause the 'enter' key not responding apparently.  he's two hunnerd miles up the road and doing this by phone, so hard to tell01:30
QuantumKaosknome: cuz itz goin superslow and i guess it is cuz its using its own generic drivers01:30
knomeQuantumKaos, are the peripherals not working?01:30
knomeQuantumKaos, there is no special drivers available if there is nothing showing up in the hardware drivers.01:30
QuantumKaosknome: everything is working (but wireless) so it has to be using its generic drivers01:30
knomemikubuntu, has he *installed* the os or is he on the live cd?01:31
knomeQuantumKaos, did it work in kubuntu?01:31
mikubuntuits a livecd we're trying to install from01:31
mikubuntuhe has previous version of ubuntu on the laptop, but having probs with it, that's why i suggested a fresh install01:32
micahgmikubuntu: does the livecd work ok?01:32
QuantumKaoswhat u mean there's no special drivers available, i checked on my old laptop's website and linux drivers are available for it, but probably xubuntu is using some generic drivers, indeed the vga is superslow, everything is terribly slow and wireless won't work even if i installed the wifi usb pen with ndiswrapper (so that mean that i can connect to the internet via lan only cuz its using some generic driver for my lan card, but not the01:33
QuantumKaosspecific one, that would let me use wireless also)01:33
mikubuntunope, but thats why i'm sending after some other cds that i *know* are good, to make sure its not a bad burn he's working with.  gimme about half hour while he picks them up, and i'll be back with a report.  thx for the help as always.  my favorite channel.01:34
th0rI can't seem to increase the number of desktops in xfce, the desktop switcher (pager) seems stuck on two desktops02:29
micahgth0r: Settings->Workspaces02:30
th0rmicahg: I tried that and it doesn't have any effect. Also tried editing the config file directly, and found a web article about having to change the setting in compiz, even though I only tried compiz once. None of these seem to help02:31
th0rmicahg: the config file does say four desktops, but only lists two names. I entered the other two names manually, but still the panel applet only indicates two desktops02:33
micahgsorry, I don't have any other ideas02:33
erik_hi03:46
erik_i just lost my task bar on xubuntu03:46
knomealt+f2 -> xfce4-panel03:47
erik_it says run in terminal03:48
erik_how do i get start menu on xubuntu03:52
knomealt+f2, run xfce4-panel do NOT run in terminal03:56
knomeand click run03:57
PsynoKhi0hi03:59
PsynoKhi0semi-fresh Xubuntu 9.04 install (clean /, while separate /home has seen a few ubuntu hardy and kubuntu jaunty), the panels won't revert back to default, I've tried "killall xfce4-panel, rm -r /config .cache" in and out of gdm...04:02
PsynoKhi0erm rm -r .config .cache04:02
PsynoKhi0the program list (e.g. from right click) is also unusually long04:23
PsynoKhi0brb04:32
PsynoKhi0is the default theme supposed to be under /etc/skel?04:38
PsynoKhi0I mean, the default layout (panel, menu entries, etc.)04:39
maduserno04:39
PsynoKhi0ok so no worries if it's empty here04:39
maduserthe skel dir is for something else I just don't remember what04:40
maduserI believe it has something to do with building a linux distro04:40
_Pete_it's the base directory which is copied to new user's $HOME when user is added04:41
PsynoKhi0so there should be stuff in it?04:43
_Pete_there are04:43
_Pete_some minimal .files default04:43
maduserthose are hidden, you need to show hidden to see them04:44
PsynoKhi0ah right04:44
PsynoKhi0bash* and profile...04:44
_Pete_yep04:44
PsynoKhi0ok where do I find the default xubuntu desktop settings then?04:45
PsynoKhi0quite a bunch of xfce4-related stuff under /usr/bin but...04:46
_Pete_try: locate xfce404:47
_Pete_not sure, maybe those that are in /etc04:47
PsynoKhi0gah for once that I used find04:48
maduseretc/xdg/xubuntu/xfce4/04:48
maduserall the desktop settings are there04:49
PsynoKhi0ah thanks!04:51
* _Pete_ hopes to receive new eee 1000he today04:52
_Pete_any docs howtu install xubuntu on that?04:52
PsynoKhi0maduser: that did the trick!!!04:53
PsynoKhi0:D04:53
PsynoKhi0brb saving session04:54
psycho_oreoslol SiDi, I've tried my method.. the apt-get process is now a zombie09:16
SiDipsycho_oreos: :|09:17
SiDiubuntu isn't L4D, zombies aren't really useful, even for decorating your desktop, you know09:17
psycho_oreosSiDi, at least I've tried :)09:17
psycho_oreoswell I was experimenting lol09:17
psycho_oreosyou put theories into the playground and let them roam around wild09:18
SiDiok so what did you do and what is broken exactly09:18
SiDii was a bit sleepy yesterday when we talked09:19
* knome acts a zombie09:19
psycho_oreosremember when I asked about how I wanted an unified apt-get base? whereby with multiple computers running xubuntu jaunty, one of them is the main box that does all the downloads and updates for the packages and what not, the rest can then leech off that main box? You suggested to create apt-get repo server, I thought that would be a pita considering I have to generate keys and what not.. so what I did was I wanted to share /var/cach09:21
psycho_oreose/apt and make the other xubuntu boxens mount that over their /var/cache/apt and from there on install the packages like as if its on their own hard disk when its not09:21
SiDipsycho_oreos: oh this09:22
SiDiok09:22
SiDiyour idea _couldnt_ work09:22
psycho_oreosthe method in which I deployed was unfs3, after a bit of tinkering around, I've set the exported share to rw with uid as root (this was only to trial)  and when I got apt-get to work,. it did work with rw and what not but it freezes after trying to obtain packages09:22
SiDiunless you wanted to install each deb one by one in the good order with dpkg -i in command line for each PC09:22
psycho_oreosyeah I wanted to avoid that :)09:22
SiDigo for a local repository ;)09:22
psycho_oreosbleh lol09:23
psycho_oreosI'm sure there's something else blocking it, somewhere :D09:23
psycho_oreosthere has to be a way.. but meh09:23
psycho_oreosI'm still shaped now so I'm reluctant to go massive downloading of packages and what not09:23
psycho_oreosand here's another added bonus, remember back in ibex how I mentioned there was an annoying issue with thunar/gam_server? apparently in jaunty that seems to be fixed :)09:25
psycho_oreosand so has that annoying issue I bet with syslogd09:25
psycho_oreosI should probably try that now, and get that other xubuntu boxen rebooted09:25
SiDic'mon, you still have dozens of processes to zombify ^.^09:26
psycho_oreosdon't wanna do that :P09:28
psycho_oreosotoh, I have issue with the other boxen, its running as a dedicated crunch boxen but I hear beeping every now and then... I think its overheating but something else tells me it isn't09:29
SiDior theres something calling the system bip09:32
SiDiit could be a kernel oops or something crashing then relaunching and recrashing09:32
SiDiDid you check in its log files for some recurrent errors ?09:33
psycho_oreosnothing in dmesg or in /var/log/messages09:33
psycho_oreosyeah09:33
psycho_oreosnothing out of ordinary09:33
psycho_oreosI'm thinking of running gkrellm or some temp monitoring tool09:33
psycho_oreoswhat a pita, I'll have to first reboot that boxen because of zombified apt-get lol09:34
psycho_oreosoh well its my fault afterall, can only blame myself for `experimenting'09:34
psycho_oreosin a way I suppose if its beeping because of overheating, that is plausible considering my room is already somewhat warm when its winter here and there's 3 dual core boxens running along with one lappy..09:36
zetheroo1I cannot change my default word processor10:30
Guest13432could someone explain me how to put the same icons i have in thunar (oxygen) also in other gnome applications like pcmanfm?12:51
MikeChelenis there any way to make desktop icons run with single-click?13:14
Nameless_auhi. ive just installed 2 themes from xfce-look.org. both installed ok and work, except for both themes the top bar and the buttons don't work (i think it's originally a gnome theme). any ideas as to how i can change it to what it's meant to look like in xfce?14:03
SiDiNameless_au: you mean the window border ?14:13
SiDiNameless_au: you should download XFCE themes (for XFWM = XFCE Window Manager)14:13
SiDiNameless_au: GNOME uses Metacity themes (their window manager)14:13
SiDiAnd for the content of the windows GNOME and XFCE both use GTK+14:14
SiDihttp://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Chromium?content=107942 Nameless_au14:14
SiDiexample of xfwm theme14:14
SiDihttp://www.xfce-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=SteveD&action=contents other xfce themes here \o/14:14
Nameless_auSiDi, thanks for the reply. so GNOME and Xfce use GTK+ for windows, but they use different things for borders?14:16
Nameless_aujust so i am clear14:17
SiDiYes, Nameless_au14:20
SiDiThere aren't many XFCE window manager themes compared to those for GNOME, though14:20
Nameless_auyes i have noticed14:21
Nameless_authanks for the clarification14:21
Nameless_augnome might have more prettier themes, but xfce does a better job at desktop env imho14:21
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SiDiNameless_au: indeed :)14:36
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Nameless_auis it ok to install enlightenment in xubuntu?15:54
Nameless_auor is it like dividing by zero15:54
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Nameless_audoes anyone use NetworkManager in xubuntu?18:53
forcesNameless_au, xubuntu is networkmanager19:06
forcess/is/use/19:06
Esehello!19:19
forceso719:24
SiDihello Ese19:25
Esei'm having a lil issue on my pc19:29
Esei have both gnome and xfce sessions19:29
EseI first installed Ubuntu in spanish, then via synaptic installed the xubuntu desktop19:29
Esehow can I do for both of them use the same desktop folder?19:30
Esesince gnome is using "Excritorio" and xfce is using "Desktop" as their desktop folder19:30
forceschoose the same language for both19:31
Esexfce is in spanish19:32
Eseexcept for the desktop folder19:32
Esewhick name is... well... desktop instead of Escritorio19:33
SiDiEse: yeh unfortunately XFCE doesnt translate its desktop folder :(19:34
SiDiEse: remove Desktop and then type "ln -s Escritorio Desktop" in a console19:35
SiDiand it should link Desktop to your real desktop folder19:35
Eseit says broken link19:39
SiDiEse: well you will have to live with it then :(19:49
th0rhas anyone had problems increasing the number of desktops in the xfce pager? I had originally set it to 2 but now cannot get it back to the default 420:24
charlie-tcawhat version of Xubuntu?20:25
th0rit is the latest out of jaunty.20:26
charlie-tcaApplications -> Settings -> Workspaces20:26
charlie-tcashould have the option in to increase the number20:26
th0rit does, but it doesn't work. It shows 4 now in the config file but will not let me name 3 or 4. I entered those two names in the config manually, but it still only shows 2 in the pager20:27
th0rdidn't expect to have this kind of trouble, figured if nothing else editing the config would work20:33
pteaguewhy is it that any time i reboot my computer (it may happen when i log out as well) Xfce mutes my primary channel & turns the volume all the way down?21:54
Nameless_aupteague: do you use the mixer?21:55
pteagueyes21:55
Nameless_aupteague: do you save your session before every reboot?21:56
pteagueit's set to auto save the session on logout & i logout before rebooting21:56
Nameless_auok, i'm out of ideas lol21:57
pteague:)21:57
Nameless_aumaybe ask in #xfce?21:57
pteaguei know kde had issues with their mixer for a while, but i think that got fixed21:57
pteaguek21:57
SiDipteague: what is your question ?21:58
pteaguewhy is it that any time i reboot my computer (it may happen when i log out as well) Xfce mutes my primary channel & turns the volume all the way down?21:58
SiDiwhat kind of card is it ?22:00
SiDido you know if this happens in other desktop environments ?22:00
SiDi(and does pulseaudio run ?)22:00
th0rI am running xfce in an ubuntu jaunty install. I had reduced the number of desktops in the pager to two, and now cannot get it back to four. xfwm4.xml indicated the increase to four, but I had to edit it manually to add the names. but still the pager shows only two desktops22:01
Nameless_aunice question, i can't get it to 4 from 222:02
SiDith0r: compiz running ?22:02
SiDiNameless_au: same question22:02
Nameless_auyes for me22:02
SiDidid you use to use GNOME, and did you have 4 desktops there ?22:02
th0rSiDi: no...I tried compiz one time and then never used it again, but I did go into the compiz config and change the number of desktops per a thread I foundn on the web22:03
Nameless_authis is xubuntu so no, i didnt run gnome22:03
SiDith0r: and Alt + Insert/Delete doesnt work for you ?22:03
th0rSiDi: what are they to do? I wasn't aware of those keystrokes22:03
SiDiNameless_au: in the compiz config settings manager, did you say you wanted two ?22:03
SiDith0r: Add / Remove workspace22:04
SiDith0r: i discovered them by accident :)22:04
Nameless_auSiDi: i shall check22:04
th0rSiDi: they don't work from here on the desktop,22:04
SiDith0r: is xfce4-settings-helper running ?22:05
SiDiand xfconfd ?22:05
SiDiyou shouldnt edit xml files by hand btw ;)22:05
th0rSiDi: no, doesn't look like it, not in ps ax anyway22:05
th0rSiDi: oops....forgot the 422:06
th0rSiDi: yes, the helper is running22:06
SiDiand xfconfd ?22:07
th0rSiDi: no xconfd in the process list22:07
SiDith0r: it should be running22:08
SiDith0r: relaunch it, and i think you're good for restarting the session22:08
th0rSiDi: oops again (jeez...senility is coming earlier than I thought) yes....xFconfd is running22:08
SiDixfce4-settings-editor then :)22:09
SiDiand go to xfwm4 (on the left), then on the right, general->workspace_count22:09
SiDiand then click on the edit button, and set it to 422:09
th0rSiDi: it is already at 422:10
th0rSiDi: but how would I change it?22:11
nicklas_hello, how do i make a bin or run file executable in xfce? i right click it and go into preferences, but there are no option to make it executable like in gnome22:11
th0rSiDi: found it22:11
th0rSiDi: I increased it to 5 then back to 4 just to make sure...but the pager still shows only two22:11
SiDith0r: xfce4-panel --restart22:13
SiDiand tell me if it shows 2 or 422:13
th0rSiDi: says Xfce4-panel is already running22:13
SiDi:/22:14
SiDiwith "--restart" ?22:14
SiDikill it then. With blood.22:14
th0rSiDi: there it goes....still only two desktops on the workspace switcher22:14
SiDirelaunch xfce4-settings-editor and tell me if it shows 2 or 4 please now22:15
th0rSiDi: shows 422:16
SiDixfdesktop --restart ?22:16
SiDiif it doesnt work then ill have to ask you to join #xfce cause it means i dont understand what goes wrong :/22:16
th0rSiDi: it is --reload I think22:17
th0rSiDi: and I do that every half hour on a cron job to change the wallpaper22:17
SiDioh22:18
SiDiso xfconfd is running but xfdesktop ignores it :/22:18
PsynoKhi0hi22:18
th0rSiDi: will take this to xfce...thanks for trying...you had some things I hadn't thought of yet.22:18
SiDith0r: i cant reproduce your bug :/ join #xfce please22:19
SiDiim there too anyway22:19
SiDihi PsynoKhi022:19
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PsynoKhi0looks like gnome -> KDE -> xfce isn't too healthy for a separate home partition heh22:22
altobellihola22:24
PsynoKhi0hiya22:25
altobellitengo problemas para reproducir videos22:26
arualavialtobelli, this is an english channel, you should try #ubuntu-es if you wanna support in spanish :-)22:29
altobelligracias/thanks22:29
arualavialtobelli, de nada22:30
PsynoKhi0awesome work with 9.04 from what I can tell so far22:38
PsynoKhi0lightyears ahead of kubuntu in the polish department (thought they DID have quite a beef)22:39
SiDiPsynoKhi0: you're gonna make some people happy ! (knome <-)22:44
knome?!22:44
knomeoh, heh.22:44
PsynoKhi0still have a few quirks to iron out (prolly due to leftover conf files in /home) but so far, I've got a much more integrated and homogeneous desktop in a few hours than I could hope after 2 days in k'ntu22:50
SiDiPsynoKhi0: were you using gtk apps in kubuntu ?23:08
n2diyhow would I execute the bell command over ssh?23:27
pteagueSiDi: sorry, working on some other stuff for work as well & didn't notice you'd responded...  it's an HDA intel ich9...  seems like pulseaudio is running, but i don't ever remember installing it...  & it didn't happen while running kde, but jaunty kde has so many other issues >.>23:28
pteagueah, i see what installed pulseaudio...23:29
PsynoKhi0SiDi: that too23:33
SiDipteague: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio23:34
SiDipteague: its being added with restricted-extras or with (k)(ed)ubuntu-desktop23:35
PsynoKhi0but like... colour that got messed up when switching theme, some themes that even got their name translated to the system's locale, sonfusing the settings manager...23:35
PsynoKhi0confusing*23:35
pteaguee16 did it...  i was looking at alternate desktops when kde kept crashing on me23:35
PsynoKhi0truck loads of annoying details23:35
PsynoKhi0oh and yeah... pulse audio "mistakenly" shipping23:36
PsynoKhi0never got the sound right23:36
PsynoKhi0not sure I like Kickoff either23:36
PsynoKhi0I mean, all menus and submenus in one window is neat23:37
PsynoKhi0ut why the crap not make the window resize itseld to the list's height instead of making you scroll?? defeats the purpose IMO23:37
PsynoKhi0you don't navigate horizontaly but you scroll up and down... 4-5 categories/apps displayed at once23:38
PsynoKhi0there might be a setting to adjust that, but I use a computer... well, to use it, when tweaking an interface takes away half your time, it's just counterproductive23:39
PsynoKhi0so I bent the K23:40
PsynoKhi03 hours in it and I am pretty happy with my setup23:40
PsynoKhi0"it" being xubuntu :)23:40
* PsynoKhi0 listens to the crickets lmao23:40
PsynoKhi0come back! I'm done :P23:41
PsynoKhi0can't remember if Dolphin's zoom function was in Kickoff...23:42
SiDiPsynoKhi0: glad to see you enjoy xfce23:42
SiDiand if you see a cricket, please crush its damn evil face for me please23:42
PsynoKhi0moral of the story, don't let your first love go on a whim23:43
PsynoKhi0OOOOOOO xfce's compositing affects conky background window too? neat!23:44
* SiDi thinks PsynoKhi0 will stay for a while :p23:46
PsynoKhi0rather, might stay longer this time :) started with Xubuntu Fiesty :P23:47
PsynoKhi0had a go a vanilla gutsy/hardy23:47
PsynoKhi0can't I switch virtual desktop with the mouse wheel w/o placing the cursor on the panel applet? pretty usre it works on my x'ntu hardy lappy23:51
knomePsynoKhi0, roll on the desktop23:51
PsynoKhi0that's what I'm trying to achieve hehe!23:51
Nameless_auwhere would i fond a config file that has entries like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/211575/23:52
Nameless_aufind*23:52
knomeNameless_au, those are .desktop files23:53
Nameless_auknome: where are they usually kept?23:54
PsynoKhi0/usr/share/applications23:54
Nameless_auty23:54
PsynoKhi0sometimes in .local/share/applications23:54
PsynoKhi0I mean $HOME/.locale/...23:54
PsynoKhi0argh23:54
* PsynoKhi0 shoots the "e"23:55
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PsynoKhi0hmmm.... shouldn't Wine have a menu entry in Apps?23:58

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