[00:00] <^Alita> someone sets it's start script to not executable, but before i want to know if it's necessary or not
[00:03] <SiDi> it looks like it builds a database for fast searches in Synaptic
[00:03] <SiDi> you can remove it if you want
[00:03] <SiDi> its apt-xapian-index
[00:04] <^Alita> uhm, ok, i will disable it
[00:04] <^Alita> i hope next version they will develop it a little less annoying :)
[00:05] <SiDi> i never had problems with it
[00:05] <SiDi> i never ever noticed it.
[00:06] <^Alita> i think because a- you have a better pc them mine, b.
[00:06] <^Alita> b- in your pc it never started
[00:07] <micahg> hi
[00:07] <^Alita> on my pc every time it starts the system become unusable
[00:07] <micahg> is there an app in xubuntu to control the cpu frequency
[00:13] <SiDi> ^Alita: especially b : i almost never use synaptic
[00:14] <SiDi> micahg: right click the applet and add the CPU Freq applet
[00:14] <^Alita> SiDi, maybe :)
[00:14] <micahg> SiDi: I don't see that
[00:15] <micahg> is it in Jaunty?
[00:15] <SiDi> micahg: yes
[00:15] <SiDi> micahg: i think it was on intrepid too
[00:15] <micahg> SiDi: which one: xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpu-freq-plugin?
[00:16] <SiDi> micahg: aha, good question :o)
[00:16] <micahg> I'm installed the one at .2 instead of .01
[00:19] <micahg> SiDi: it seems like they just display the current setting, but they don't allow you to control it
[00:19] <micahg> ah
[00:19] <micahg> I found it
[00:19] <micahg> it's the governor plugin
[00:20] <SiDi> micahg: right
[00:20] <SiDi> micahg: sorry, forgot it had a strange name
[00:20] <micahg> SiDi: I goofed again
[00:21] <micahg> if you click on the freq applet
[00:21] <micahg> it allows you to control it
[00:21]  * micahg didn't know there were more applets
[01:09] <mikubuntu> guys.  trying to help my friend with his laptop.  he had ubuntu running for several months, then started having some probs that i've never had.  he couldn't log on a lot of times, said that ubuntu would fill in random letters in his username spot, etc... anyways i suggested he do a fresh install, but i'm trying to go through it with him over the phone and we're getting stuck.  when it gets...
[01:09] <mikubuntu> ...to the language select page, it won't accept 'enter' to get by.  also, making some strange noises.  i'm worried might be hard drive... but even if hdd was bad, shouldn't it load up live?
[01:11] <micahg> mikubuntu: could the keyboard be bad?
[01:14] <mikubuntu> another postibility
[01:28] <mikubuntu> i wonder if there is a possibility that the particular disk he is using has errors.  i'm having him to run pick up some other disks that i burned with another friend up there, in case thats the problem.  got an xubuntu, a fluxbuntu, an ubuntu 7.10, 8.04 and 8.10, and those are disks that i burned myself and have used for installs.  hopefully that will either fix, or narrow down the problem...
[01:28] <mikubuntu> ...prognosis.
[01:28] <QuantumKaos> hi how do i install drivers? in general i mean. what in kubuntu would have been system settings
[01:28] <knome> mikubuntu, he can check the cd for errors, but i doubt that if he has got the OS installed.
[01:29] <knome> QuantumKaos, system -> hardware drivers
[01:29] <QuantumKaos> knomw: that only brings me to a limited interface that tells me to install the "modem" driver, but id like to install the specific driver of each peripheal
[01:30] <mikubuntu> well, he can't even really check the cd, cause the 'enter' key not responding apparently.  he's two hunnerd miles up the road and doing this by phone, so hard to tell
[01:30] <QuantumKaos> knome: cuz itz goin superslow and i guess it is cuz its using its own generic drivers
[01:30] <knome> QuantumKaos, are the peripherals not working?
[01:30] <knome> QuantumKaos, there is no special drivers available if there is nothing showing up in the hardware drivers.
[01:30] <QuantumKaos> knome: everything is working (but wireless) so it has to be using its generic drivers
[01:31] <knome> mikubuntu, has he *installed* the os or is he on the live cd?
[01:31] <knome> QuantumKaos, did it work in kubuntu?
[01:31] <mikubuntu> its a livecd we're trying to install from
[01:32] <mikubuntu> he has previous version of ubuntu on the laptop, but having probs with it, that's why i suggested a fresh install
[01:32] <micahg> mikubuntu: does the livecd work ok?
[01:33] <QuantumKaos> what u mean there's no special drivers available, i checked on my old laptop's website and linux drivers are available for it, but probably xubuntu is using some generic drivers, indeed the vga is superslow, everything is terribly slow and wireless won't work even if i installed the wifi usb pen with ndiswrapper (so that mean that i can connect to the internet via lan only cuz its using some generic driver for my lan card, but not the
[01:33] <QuantumKaos> specific one, that would let me use wireless also)
[01:34] <mikubuntu> nope, but thats why i'm sending after some other cds that i *know* are good, to make sure its not a bad burn he's working with.  gimme about half hour while he picks them up, and i'll be back with a report.  thx for the help as always.  my favorite channel.
[02:29] <th0r> I can't seem to increase the number of desktops in xfce, the desktop switcher (pager) seems stuck on two desktops
[02:30] <micahg> th0r: Settings->Workspaces
[02:31] <th0r> micahg: I tried that and it doesn't have any effect. Also tried editing the config file directly, and found a web article about having to change the setting in compiz, even though I only tried compiz once. None of these seem to help
[02:33] <th0r> micahg: the config file does say four desktops, but only lists two names. I entered the other two names manually, but still the panel applet only indicates two desktops
[02:33] <micahg> sorry, I don't have any other ideas
[03:46] <erik_> hi
[03:46] <erik_> i just lost my task bar on xubuntu
[03:47] <knome> alt+f2 -> xfce4-panel
[03:48] <erik_> it says run in terminal
[03:52] <erik_> how do i get start menu on xubuntu
[03:56] <knome> alt+f2, run xfce4-panel do NOT run in terminal
[03:57] <knome> and click run
[03:59] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[04:02] <PsynoKhi0> semi-fresh Xubuntu 9.04 install (clean /, while separate /home has seen a few ubuntu hardy and kubuntu jaunty), the panels won't revert back to default, I've tried "killall xfce4-panel, rm -r /config .cache" in and out of gdm...
[04:02] <PsynoKhi0> erm rm -r .config .cache
[04:23] <PsynoKhi0> the program list (e.g. from right click) is also unusually long
[04:32] <PsynoKhi0> brb
[04:38] <PsynoKhi0> is the default theme supposed to be under /etc/skel?
[04:39] <PsynoKhi0> I mean, the default layout (panel, menu entries, etc.)
[04:39] <maduser> no
[04:39] <PsynoKhi0> ok so no worries if it's empty here
[04:40] <maduser> the skel dir is for something else I just don't remember what
[04:40] <maduser> I believe it has something to do with building a linux distro
[04:41] <_Pete_> it's the base directory which is copied to new user's $HOME when user is added
[04:43] <PsynoKhi0> so there should be stuff in it?
[04:43] <_Pete_> there are
[04:43] <_Pete_> some minimal .files default
[04:44] <maduser> those are hidden, you need to show hidden to see them
[04:44] <PsynoKhi0> ah right
[04:44] <PsynoKhi0> bash* and profile...
[04:44] <_Pete_> yep
[04:45] <PsynoKhi0> ok where do I find the default xubuntu desktop settings then?
[04:46] <PsynoKhi0> quite a bunch of xfce4-related stuff under /usr/bin but...
[04:47] <_Pete_> try: locate xfce4
[04:47] <_Pete_> not sure, maybe those that are in /etc
[04:48] <PsynoKhi0> gah for once that I used find
[04:48] <maduser> etc/xdg/xubuntu/xfce4/
[04:49] <maduser> all the desktop settings are there
[04:51] <PsynoKhi0> ah thanks!
[04:52]  * _Pete_ hopes to receive new eee 1000he today
[04:52] <_Pete_> any docs howtu install xubuntu on that?
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> maduser: that did the trick!!!
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> :D
[04:54] <PsynoKhi0> brb saving session
[09:16] <psycho_oreos> lol SiDi, I've tried my method.. the apt-get process is now a zombie
[09:17] <SiDi> psycho_oreos: :|
[09:17] <SiDi> ubuntu isn't L4D, zombies aren't really useful, even for decorating your desktop, you know
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> SiDi, at least I've tried :)
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> well I was experimenting lol
[09:18] <psycho_oreos> you put theories into the playground and let them roam around wild
[09:18] <SiDi> ok so what did you do and what is broken exactly
[09:19] <SiDi> i was a bit sleepy yesterday when we talked
[09:19]  * knome acts a zombie
[09:21] <psycho_oreos> remember when I asked about how I wanted an unified apt-get base? whereby with multiple computers running xubuntu jaunty, one of them is the main box that does all the downloads and updates for the packages and what not, the rest can then leech off that main box? You suggested to create apt-get repo server, I thought that would be a pita considering I have to generate keys and what not.. so what I did was I wanted to share /var/cach
[09:21] <psycho_oreos> e/apt and make the other xubuntu boxens mount that over their /var/cache/apt and from there on install the packages like as if its on their own hard disk when its not
[09:22] <SiDi> psycho_oreos: oh this
[09:22] <SiDi> ok
[09:22] <SiDi> your idea _couldnt_ work
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> the method in which I deployed was unfs3, after a bit of tinkering around, I've set the exported share to rw with uid as root (this was only to trial)  and when I got apt-get to work,. it did work with rw and what not but it freezes after trying to obtain packages
[09:22] <SiDi> unless you wanted to install each deb one by one in the good order with dpkg -i in command line for each PC
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> yeah I wanted to avoid that :)
[09:22] <SiDi> go for a local repository ;)
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> bleh lol
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> I'm sure there's something else blocking it, somewhere :D
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> there has to be a way.. but meh
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> I'm still shaped now so I'm reluctant to go massive downloading of packages and what not
[09:25] <psycho_oreos> and here's another added bonus, remember back in ibex how I mentioned there was an annoying issue with thunar/gam_server? apparently in jaunty that seems to be fixed :)
[09:25] <psycho_oreos> and so has that annoying issue I bet with syslogd
[09:25] <psycho_oreos> I should probably try that now, and get that other xubuntu boxen rebooted
[09:26] <SiDi> c'mon, you still have dozens of processes to zombify ^.^
[09:28] <psycho_oreos> don't wanna do that :P
[09:29] <psycho_oreos> otoh, I have issue with the other boxen, its running as a dedicated crunch boxen but I hear beeping every now and then... I think its overheating but something else tells me it isn't
[09:32] <SiDi> or theres something calling the system bip
[09:32] <SiDi> it could be a kernel oops or something crashing then relaunching and recrashing
[09:33] <SiDi> Did you check in its log files for some recurrent errors ?
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> nothing in dmesg or in /var/log/messages
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> yeah
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> nothing out of ordinary
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> I'm thinking of running gkrellm or some temp monitoring tool
[09:34] <psycho_oreos> what a pita, I'll have to first reboot that boxen because of zombified apt-get lol
[09:34] <psycho_oreos> oh well its my fault afterall, can only blame myself for `experimenting'
[09:36] <psycho_oreos> in a way I suppose if its beeping because of overheating, that is plausible considering my room is already somewhat warm when its winter here and there's 3 dual core boxens running along with one lappy..
[10:30] <zetheroo1> I cannot change my default word processor
[12:51] <Guest13432> could someone explain me how to put the same icons i have in thunar (oxygen) also in other gnome applications like pcmanfm?
[13:14] <MikeChelen> is there any way to make desktop icons run with single-click?
[14:03] <Nameless_au> hi. ive just installed 2 themes from xfce-look.org. both installed ok and work, except for both themes the top bar and the buttons don't work (i think it's originally a gnome theme). any ideas as to how i can change it to what it's meant to look like in xfce?
[14:13] <SiDi> Nameless_au: you mean the window border ?
[14:13] <SiDi> Nameless_au: you should download XFCE themes (for XFWM = XFCE Window Manager)
[14:13] <SiDi> Nameless_au: GNOME uses Metacity themes (their window manager)
[14:14] <SiDi> And for the content of the windows GNOME and XFCE both use GTK+
[14:14] <SiDi> http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Chromium?content=107942 Nameless_au
[14:14] <SiDi> example of xfwm theme
[14:14] <SiDi> http://www.xfce-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=SteveD&action=contents other xfce themes here \o/
[14:16] <Nameless_au> SiDi, thanks for the reply. so GNOME and Xfce use GTK+ for windows, but they use different things for borders?
[14:17] <Nameless_au> just so i am clear
[14:20] <SiDi> Yes, Nameless_au
[14:20] <SiDi> There aren't many XFCE window manager themes compared to those for GNOME, though
[14:21] <Nameless_au> yes i have noticed
[14:21] <Nameless_au> thanks for the clarification
[14:21] <Nameless_au> gnome might have more prettier themes, but xfce does a better job at desktop env imho
[14:36] <SiDi> Nameless_au: indeed :)
[15:54] <Nameless_au> is it ok to install enlightenment in xubuntu?
[15:54] <Nameless_au> or is it like dividing by zero
[18:53] <Nameless_au> does anyone use NetworkManager in xubuntu?
[19:06] <forces> Nameless_au, xubuntu is networkmanager
[19:06] <forces> s/is/use/
[19:19] <Ese> hello!
[19:24] <forces> o7
[19:25] <SiDi> hello Ese
[19:29] <Ese> i'm having a lil issue on my pc
[19:29] <Ese> i have both gnome and xfce sessions
[19:29] <Ese> I first installed Ubuntu in spanish, then via synaptic installed the xubuntu desktop
[19:30] <Ese> how can I do for both of them use the same desktop folder?
[19:30] <Ese> since gnome is using "Excritorio" and xfce is using "Desktop" as their desktop folder
[19:31] <forces> choose the same language for both
[19:32] <Ese> xfce is in spanish
[19:32] <Ese> except for the desktop folder
[19:33] <Ese> whick name is... well... desktop instead of Escritorio
[19:34] <SiDi> Ese: yeh unfortunately XFCE doesnt translate its desktop folder :(
[19:35] <SiDi> Ese: remove Desktop and then type "ln -s Escritorio Desktop" in a console
[19:35] <SiDi> and it should link Desktop to your real desktop folder
[19:39] <Ese> it says broken link
[19:49] <SiDi> Ese: well you will have to live with it then :(
[20:24] <th0r> has anyone had problems increasing the number of desktops in the xfce pager? I had originally set it to 2 but now cannot get it back to the default 4
[20:25] <charlie-tca> what version of Xubuntu?
[20:26] <th0r> it is the latest out of jaunty.
[20:26] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Workspaces
[20:26] <charlie-tca> should have the option in to increase the number
[20:27] <th0r> it does, but it doesn't work. It shows 4 now in the config file but will not let me name 3 or 4. I entered those two names in the config manually, but it still only shows 2 in the pager
[20:33] <th0r> didn't expect to have this kind of trouble, figured if nothing else editing the config would work
[21:54] <pteague> why is it that any time i reboot my computer (it may happen when i log out as well) Xfce mutes my primary channel & turns the volume all the way down?
[21:55] <Nameless_au> pteague: do you use the mixer?
[21:55] <pteague> yes
[21:56] <Nameless_au> pteague: do you save your session before every reboot?
[21:56] <pteague> it's set to auto save the session on logout & i logout before rebooting
[21:57] <Nameless_au> ok, i'm out of ideas lol
[21:57] <pteague> :)
[21:57] <Nameless_au> maybe ask in #xfce?
[21:57] <pteague> i know kde had issues with their mixer for a while, but i think that got fixed
[21:57] <pteague> k
[21:58] <SiDi> pteague: what is your question ?
[21:58] <pteague> why is it that any time i reboot my computer (it may happen when i log out as well) Xfce mutes my primary channel & turns the volume all the way down?
[22:00] <SiDi> what kind of card is it ?
[22:00] <SiDi> do you know if this happens in other desktop environments ?
[22:00] <SiDi> (and does pulseaudio run ?)
[22:01] <th0r> I am running xfce in an ubuntu jaunty install. I had reduced the number of desktops in the pager to two, and now cannot get it back to four. xfwm4.xml indicated the increase to four, but I had to edit it manually to add the names. but still the pager shows only two desktops
[22:02] <Nameless_au> nice question, i can't get it to 4 from 2
[22:02] <SiDi> th0r: compiz running ?
[22:02] <SiDi> Nameless_au: same question
[22:02] <Nameless_au> yes for me
[22:02] <SiDi> did you use to use GNOME, and did you have 4 desktops there ?
[22:03] <th0r> SiDi: no...I tried compiz one time and then never used it again, but I did go into the compiz config and change the number of desktops per a thread I foundn on the web
[22:03] <Nameless_au> this is xubuntu so no, i didnt run gnome
[22:03] <SiDi> th0r: and Alt + Insert/Delete doesnt work for you ?
[22:03] <th0r> SiDi: what are they to do? I wasn't aware of those keystrokes
[22:03] <SiDi> Nameless_au: in the compiz config settings manager, did you say you wanted two ?
[22:04] <SiDi> th0r: Add / Remove workspace
[22:04] <SiDi> th0r: i discovered them by accident :)
[22:04] <Nameless_au> SiDi: i shall check
[22:04] <th0r> SiDi: they don't work from here on the desktop,
[22:05] <SiDi> th0r: is xfce4-settings-helper running ?
[22:05] <SiDi> and xfconfd ?
[22:05] <SiDi> you shouldnt edit xml files by hand btw ;)
[22:05] <th0r> SiDi: no, doesn't look like it, not in ps ax anyway
[22:06] <th0r> SiDi: oops....forgot the 4
[22:06] <th0r> SiDi: yes, the helper is running
[22:07] <SiDi> and xfconfd ?
[22:07] <th0r> SiDi: no xconfd in the process list
[22:08] <SiDi> th0r: it should be running
[22:08] <SiDi> th0r: relaunch it, and i think you're good for restarting the session
[22:08] <th0r> SiDi: oops again (jeez...senility is coming earlier than I thought) yes....xFconfd is running
[22:09] <SiDi> xfce4-settings-editor then :)
[22:09] <SiDi> and go to xfwm4 (on the left), then on the right, general->workspace_count
[22:09] <SiDi> and then click on the edit button, and set it to 4
[22:10] <th0r> SiDi: it is already at 4
[22:11] <th0r> SiDi: but how would I change it?
[22:11] <nicklas_> hello, how do i make a bin or run file executable in xfce? i right click it and go into preferences, but there are no option to make it executable like in gnome
[22:11] <th0r> SiDi: found it
[22:11] <th0r> SiDi: I increased it to 5 then back to 4 just to make sure...but the pager still shows only two
[22:13] <SiDi> th0r: xfce4-panel --restart
[22:13] <SiDi> and tell me if it shows 2 or 4
[22:13] <th0r> SiDi: says Xfce4-panel is already running
[22:14] <SiDi> :/
[22:14] <SiDi> with "--restart" ?
[22:14] <SiDi> kill it then. With blood.
[22:14] <th0r> SiDi: there it goes....still only two desktops on the workspace switcher
[22:15] <SiDi> relaunch xfce4-settings-editor and tell me if it shows 2 or 4 please now
[22:16] <th0r> SiDi: shows 4
[22:16] <SiDi> xfdesktop --restart ?
[22:16] <SiDi> if it doesnt work then ill have to ask you to join #xfce cause it means i dont understand what goes wrong :/
[22:17] <th0r> SiDi: it is --reload I think
[22:17] <th0r> SiDi: and I do that every half hour on a cron job to change the wallpaper
[22:18] <SiDi> oh
[22:18] <SiDi> so xfconfd is running but xfdesktop ignores it :/
[22:18] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[22:18] <th0r> SiDi: will take this to xfce...thanks for trying...you had some things I hadn't thought of yet.
[22:19] <SiDi> th0r: i cant reproduce your bug :/ join #xfce please
[22:19] <SiDi> im there too anyway
[22:19] <SiDi> hi PsynoKhi0
[22:22] <PsynoKhi0> looks like gnome -> KDE -> xfce isn't too healthy for a separate home partition heh
[22:24] <altobelli> hola
[22:25] <PsynoKhi0> hiya
[22:26] <altobelli> tengo problemas para reproducir videos
[22:29] <arualavi> altobelli, this is an english channel, you should try #ubuntu-es if you wanna support in spanish :-)
[22:29] <altobelli> gracias/thanks
[22:30] <arualavi> altobelli, de nada
[22:38] <PsynoKhi0> awesome work with 9.04 from what I can tell so far
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> lightyears ahead of kubuntu in the polish department (thought they DID have quite a beef)
[22:44] <SiDi> PsynoKhi0: you're gonna make some people happy ! (knome <-)
[22:44] <knome> ?!
[22:44] <knome> oh, heh.
[22:50] <PsynoKhi0> still have a few quirks to iron out (prolly due to leftover conf files in /home) but so far, I've got a much more integrated and homogeneous desktop in a few hours than I could hope after 2 days in k'ntu
[23:08] <SiDi> PsynoKhi0: were you using gtk apps in kubuntu ?
[23:27] <n2diy> how would I execute the bell command over ssh?
[23:28] <pteague> SiDi: sorry, working on some other stuff for work as well & didn't notice you'd responded...  it's an HDA intel ich9...  seems like pulseaudio is running, but i don't ever remember installing it...  & it didn't happen while running kde, but jaunty kde has so many other issues >.>
[23:29] <pteague> ah, i see what installed pulseaudio...
[23:33] <PsynoKhi0> SiDi: that too
[23:34] <SiDi> pteague: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
[23:35] <SiDi> pteague: its being added with restricted-extras or with (k)(ed)ubuntu-desktop
[23:35] <PsynoKhi0> but like... colour that got messed up when switching theme, some themes that even got their name translated to the system's locale, sonfusing the settings manager...
[23:35] <PsynoKhi0> confusing*
[23:35] <pteague> e16 did it...  i was looking at alternate desktops when kde kept crashing on me
[23:35] <PsynoKhi0> truck loads of annoying details
[23:36] <PsynoKhi0> oh and yeah... pulse audio "mistakenly" shipping
[23:36] <PsynoKhi0> never got the sound right
[23:36] <PsynoKhi0> not sure I like Kickoff either
[23:37] <PsynoKhi0> I mean, all menus and submenus in one window is neat
[23:37] <PsynoKhi0> ut why the crap not make the window resize itseld to the list's height instead of making you scroll?? defeats the purpose IMO
[23:38] <PsynoKhi0> you don't navigate horizontaly but you scroll up and down... 4-5 categories/apps displayed at once
[23:39] <PsynoKhi0> there might be a setting to adjust that, but I use a computer... well, to use it, when tweaking an interface takes away half your time, it's just counterproductive
[23:40] <PsynoKhi0> so I bent the K
[23:40] <PsynoKhi0> 3 hours in it and I am pretty happy with my setup
[23:40] <PsynoKhi0> "it" being xubuntu :)
[23:40]  * PsynoKhi0 listens to the crickets lmao
[23:41] <PsynoKhi0> come back! I'm done :P
[23:42] <PsynoKhi0> can't remember if Dolphin's zoom function was in Kickoff...
[23:42] <SiDi> PsynoKhi0: glad to see you enjoy xfce
[23:42] <SiDi> and if you see a cricket, please crush its damn evil face for me please
[23:43] <PsynoKhi0> moral of the story, don't let your first love go on a whim
[23:44] <PsynoKhi0> OOOOOOO xfce's compositing affects conky background window too? neat!
[23:46]  * SiDi thinks PsynoKhi0 will stay for a while :p
[23:47] <PsynoKhi0> rather, might stay longer this time :) started with Xubuntu Fiesty :P
[23:47] <PsynoKhi0> had a go a vanilla gutsy/hardy
[23:51] <PsynoKhi0> can't I switch virtual desktop with the mouse wheel w/o placing the cursor on the panel applet? pretty usre it works on my x'ntu hardy lappy
[23:51] <knome> PsynoKhi0, roll on the desktop
[23:51] <PsynoKhi0> that's what I'm trying to achieve hehe!
[23:52] <Nameless_au> where would i fond a config file that has entries like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/211575/
[23:52] <Nameless_au> find*
[23:53] <knome> Nameless_au, those are .desktop files
[23:54] <Nameless_au> knome: where are they usually kept?
[23:54] <PsynoKhi0> /usr/share/applications
[23:54] <Nameless_au> ty
[23:54] <PsynoKhi0> sometimes in .local/share/applications
[23:54] <PsynoKhi0> I mean $HOME/.locale/...
[23:54] <PsynoKhi0> argh
[23:55]  * PsynoKhi0 shoots the "e"
[23:58] <PsynoKhi0> hmmm.... shouldn't Wine have a menu entry in Apps?