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ign0ramusfrenchy, the folder preview? I also have that, but deleting the link still does not delete the original folder00:00
frenchyhmmmm, how do i check kde version (kicker --version) do not work00:01
ign0ramusfrenchy, from prompt in ~ I did "mkdir fake" .  Then on Folder View on desktop i did create new > link to location. pointed it to ~/fake/.  Shift-deleted it.  ~/fake/ remains.00:01
ign0ramusfrenchy, if you're using kde4, kicker has been replaced by panels00:01
frenchyign0ramus: yeah the folder stays but put files in the folder they should vanish00:02
ign0ramusfrenchy, ahh... that i didn't try. let me populate my fake directory and try again00:02
* frenchy bhouuuhouuuhouuuu jeremy lost a huge amount of data and can't recover it !!!00:03
ign0ramusfrenchy, i just copied about 15 jpg's into ~/fake/. Recreated link to that location on Folder View.  Shift-deleted it.  ~/fake/ remains, as well as the jpg's inside.00:04
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ign0ramusfrenchy, would you care to replicate?00:04
frenchyyes just replicate right now, the only difference is that i use dolphin to create the link00:06
frenchyi don't belive it should make a huge diffrence00:06
ign0ramusfrenchy, that i did not do... i'm just right-clicking on the Folder View and doing Create New > Link to Location00:06
ign0ramusfrenchy, i'll try your way00:06
ign0ramusfrenchy, are you deleting the link inside dolphin, or in the Folder View widget?00:07
frenchyon the folder view widget00:08
ign0ramusfrenchy, all original files and folder remain. i cannot replicate your 'bug'00:08
ign0ramusfrenchy, again, what version of kde are you using?00:10
frenchyhmmm, here i can replicate every time, i am using kde 4.2.9500:11
fiasco_hi every body00:11
ign0ramusfrenchy, same version00:11
ign0ramusfiasco_, hi Dr. fiasco_!00:11
fiasco_thank u00:11
frenchyi am using jaunty main rep for update00:12
frenchydamn i should have never done that, how can i roll back to the previous stable version ?00:13
frenchyign0ramus: where are kde logs? i might be able to track the problem00:14
ign0ramusfrenchy, try www.kde.org00:14
frenchyign0ramus: when you delete the link on the widget does it create an error ???00:20
ign0ramusfrenchy, no. no errors.00:20
frenchylike couldn't delete the folder fake00:20
frenchyi really wonder why it happens to me here00:21
ign0ramusfrenchy, have you updated && upgraded lately? I know there were some bugfixes for 4.2.95 just recently released (last couple of days)...00:21
ign0ramusfrenchy, for example, many people experienced Task Manager not showing any open programs.  That was fixed in a matter of hours, though00:22
frenchyign0ramus: i only got libtiff4 to upgrade00:26
ubuntu__Moin00:26
ign0ramusfrenchy, not going to fix the issues you are experiencing :(00:27
ign0ramusBluesKaj, you there?00:27
BluesKajyup00:28
ign0ramusBluesKaj, :)00:28
ign0ramusBluesKaj, hey, you also have kde 4.3RC 1, right?00:28
BluesKajhey ign0ramus :) yes F00:28
ign0ramusBluesKaj, would you mind performing a small experiment?00:28
BluesKajplasma crashes00:28
frenchyign0ramus: yeah i had a feeling :( could you do me a favour, can you try to recreate that bug only by using Dolphin ??00:29
ign0ramusBluesKaj, no one has to even 'try' to do that :P00:29
BluesKajok, waht's the xprmnt ?00:29
frenchycan you create fake in your home then a sub folder in fake and multiple other files in both of those dirs00:29
ign0ramusBluesKaj, first, create a folder in your home directory.  please add a sub-directory or two, and copy some small files into it00:30
ign0ramusBluesKaj, *using Dolphin*00:30
frenchythen drag and drop fake in the desktop widget and select create a link00:30
ign0ramusfrenchy, oh, you are dragging and dropping?00:30
frenchyyup00:30
ign0ramusfrenchy, i have not done that. let me check. (i've been right-clicking > Create New Link to Location)00:31
frenchylol sorry ign0ramus i am a regular user for me it is quite evident00:31
ign0ramusfrenchy, nope. still files remain for me... :/00:32
ign0ramusBluesKaj, have you done that?00:32
frenchyign0ramus: damn it i am really the only one cursed ?00:32
BluesKajyup, done00:32
ign0ramusBluesKaj, ok, now in dolphin, can you please drag and drop that folder to Folder View on desktop?  At the prompt, select "Create Link" (or whatever the phrase is)00:33
murrysorry if this is stupid but I am going crazy.  How do i find out what kind of graphics card is installed in this computer?00:33
ign0ramusmurry, lspci or sudo lshw00:33
murrycome again?00:34
ign0ramusmurry, run either of those commands in a terminal00:34
murryah thnx00:34
ign0ramusBluesKaj, we there?00:35
BluesKajfolder view should include the fake folder and it does..when i try to drag n drop : "newer name called fake already exists "00:35
ign0ramusBluesKaj, oh... then 'mv' your fake folder to a different directory (either home or Desktop would be easy)00:36
BluesKajI like folder view , anything created in /home shows up00:36
ign0ramusBluesKaj, i do too, but frenchy is having an issue with it... i do not have this bug.  you are the tie-breaker ;)00:37
ign0ramusBluesKaj, ok, so "mv fake ~/Desktop"00:37
BluesKajit shows up in the /home/desktop too ...I don't have a /desktop00:38
ign0ramusBluesKaj, you do not have ~/Desktop? (case-sensitive)00:38
BluesKajyes ~/desktop , it's there00:38
BluesKajerr ~/Desktop00:39
ign0ramusBluesKaj, if you put your 'fake' folder into ~/Desktop, can you drag and drop (in dolphin) to Folder View?00:39
frenchyign0ramus: kio_thumbnail[12489]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f47a715b4ef sp 00007fffb2a54570 error 4 in libgcc_s.so.1[7f47a714b000+16000]00:40
frenchyi think it is the reason00:40
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ign0ramusfrenchy, does the directory ~/.thumbnails exist?00:42
BluesKajwhy bother ~/Desktop is the folder view ...not allowed, i can drag it out of ~/Desktop however and the fake folder shows up in folderview00:42
ign0ramusBluesKaj, yeah, that's what we want00:42
frenchyign0ramus: yes00:42
ign0ramusBluesKaj, see, when frenchy creates a link in Folder View and deletes it (shift+delete), it is apparently deleting the original directory (or at least its contents), not just removing the shorcut link.00:43
ign0ramusBluesKaj, does that make sense to you? (sorry i am tired right now)00:43
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ign0ramusBluesKaj, i do not have that issue, but as we dig more, he is experiencing some errors that may lead to the issue00:44
ign0ramusBluesKaj, so now if you shift-delete your newly-made shortcut, does it delete you original 'fake' directory, or any of the files inside it?00:45
BluesKajyup, they're all gone00:46
frenchywhooooooohooooooooo, i am not just unluky :p00:47
BluesKaji don't use KB commands much ,00:47
ign0ramusBluesKaj, wow. i did the exact steps, but all files remain for me :/00:47
BluesKajbut it looks like I'll not be using that one soon00:48
ign0ramusBluesKaj, well, at least you found out the easy way! :) When's the last time you could honestly say that? :P00:48
BluesKajhehe00:48
ign0ramusBluesKaj, frenchy, i would consider that a major bug. that is definitely *not* expected behavior, and obviously dangerous00:49
* frenchy bouhouhouuuuuu I found it the hard way ;(00:49
BluesKajnever heard of shift+delete to break a link00:49
frenchyign0ramus: lol dangerous, yes extremely ... i almost smashed my computer on the ground !00:50
ign0ramusBluesKaj, it's more of a "force-delete" that bypasses the trash can00:50
ign0ramusfrenchy, lol :P00:50
BluesKajI don't like using the delete key unless I'm actually "deleting a file" if you know what I mean :)00:51
ign0ramusBluesKaj, if you right-click a file in Dolphin, it gives the option of "Delete" and gives the shortcut (Shift+Delete)00:51
ign0ramusBluesKaj, i'm with you, but i have that bad habit sometimes, because i don't keep the trash on the Desktop or on the panel ... :(00:52
frenchylol i have that habit because i am lazy and drag drop is more effort than shif+del00:53
BluesKajyes , I know i deleted a movie yeatrday by mistake after combining 2 videos , cuz I used the delete option after highlighting all 3 when I hjust wanted to dump the 2 originals00:53
BluesKajoops :P00:53
ign0ramusBluesKaj, d'oh!00:53
BluesKajno loss wifey din't want to watch it anyway00:54
ign0ramusBluesKaj, hehe00:54
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ign0ramusBluesKaj, in our 'experiment', did deleting the link delete the entire directory, or just the files inside it?00:57
BluesKajthe whole folder00:57
ign0ramusBluesKaj, hmm... and you definitely created a link, and didn't move the folder, correct?00:58
ign0ramusBluesKaj, (sorry for the dumb questions)00:58
BluesKajok , let's try again ..you me to create link to the folder veiw from the dolphin fake folder ..right ?01:01
BluesKajwant01:01
ign0ramusBluesKaj, yes.01:01
ign0ramusBluesKaj, create fake folder, create link on Folder View01:01
ign0ramusBluesKaj, ctrl+shift will also create link01:02
ign0ramusBluesKaj, the new icon will have a little arrow on it, signifying that it is a link or shortcut01:03
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BluesKajyeah, created a link in ~/Desktop01:03
ign0ramusBluesKaj, and again, simply deleting the link will delete the entire original folder, and not just the link we made?01:04
BluesKajnow you want to delete the link in ~/Desktop using the delete option or the KB commands?01:05
ign0ramusBluesKaj, highlight the link, and press shift+delete01:05
BluesKajok, the fake folder and subfolder are still in Dolphin , after deleting the link01:06
ign0ramusBluesKaj, ok, that's the behavior i get... i'm wondering what's going wrong on frenchy's install :/01:07
BluesKajsry , i misunderstood the first time01:07
ign0ramusBluesKaj, np... that's why i double-checked ;)01:07
BluesKajright :)01:08
frenchyhmmm :( so i am cursed01:08
ign0ramusBluesKaj, that's why i don't like gui... running commands and posting output is so much easier :)01:08
ign0ramusBluesKaj, at least when troubleshooting remotely :)01:08
BluesKajwell, I'm an old windows guy and old habits die hard01:09
ign0ramusBluesKaj, i still have those 'nasty' habits sometimes too ;)01:09
BluesKajnever was much good on a KB , practically failed typing class in 9th grade01:10
ign0ramusBluesKaj, was it on a typewriter? :P01:10
BluesKajyes01:10
BluesKaji'm old01:10
ign0ramushaha! :) You know i'm just messing w/ ya :)01:11
BluesKajhave to give my eyes a rest ...BBL01:13
ign0ramusBluesKaj, ok, i'm leaving soon too01:13
ign0ramusBluesKaj, have a great night! :)01:13
frenchyign0ramus: just a small thing befor you go to sleep01:15
ign0ramusfrenchy, what's that?01:15
frenchyhow can i roll back to kde stable ?01:15
ign0ramusfrenchy, did you add a PPA to get your version of kde?01:15
ign0ramusfrenchy, (and i'm going out for drinks, no sleep for me!!!)01:16
frenchyign0ramus: yes jaunty main, i think01:16
neversfeldefrenchy: do a fresh install, there is no way to do a proper downgrade01:16
neversfeldeand do not use ppas in production environments01:17
frenchyign0ramus: hmmmm i had a feeling, anyway thx, enjoy your night out :)01:17
ign0ramusfrenchy, thanks. hopefully a bugfix rolls through for you soon :)01:17
frenchyign0ramus: thanks mate, i am off to sleep, good night to all of u :D01:18
ign0ramusfrenchy, goodnight!01:18
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gnuboyhow to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 fresh install?01:29
neversfeldegnuboy: you cannot upgrade from 9.10 to 9.04?01:31
neversfelde9.10 is newer than 9.0401:31
gnuboyyes i know01:31
neversfeldeah sorry, missed it01:31
neversfeldewhy do you want to upgrade to a dev version01:32
gnuboyno special reason01:32
neversfeldeand if you want sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release01:32
gnuboyit works! :] thank you01:34
neversfeldegnuboy: don't do it :)01:35
gnuboywhy?01:36
neversfeldeit is a dev relase under heavy development01:36
gnuboyis it so unstable, that i can't even launch web browser?01:37
neversfeldesometimes, it will probably kill your X during the upgrade01:38
bazhanggnuboy, discussion of karmic in #ubuntu+1 (read the /topic there)01:38
neversfeldeand 2.6.31 seems not to start with nvidia cards01:39
gnuboybazhang: ok ok01:39
gnuboyi read about that and they say it will kill x for sure01:41
gnuboyi'm just testing it on my eee01:42
neversfeldeeveryone does an release upgrade on tty1, but better => ubuntu+1^^01:42
gnuboyanyway thanks for that command01:43
dubious#countert-strike.is01:50
AdolaWhen does KDE 4.3 come out?01:50
AdolaI want the new plasma addons....01:50
DragnslcrRC1 was released last week, final release is scheduled for the end of July01:52
AdolaDragnslcr: How difficult is it to upgrade?01:52
DragnslcrTo the RC? Basically just add the PPA for it and do a regular upgrade01:53
AdolaDragnslcr: You recommend the RC?01:53
DragnslcrWorking well for me so far. Haven't noticed any major improvements, but I haven't seen any critical bugs either01:54
compilerwriterhell neversfelde I am having trouble with my nvidia card in 9.0401:54
Adolacompilerwriter: Can you enable proprietary drivers/01:55
AdolaOr is your card not supported anymore?01:55
compilerwriteradola I am in the middle of trying to do just that through some godaweful manipulations.01:56
compilerwriterJust doing from the settings hardware thing did not work.01:56
compilerwriterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/211316/01:56
Adolacompilerwriter: Did you just upgrade?  Because, 9.04 dropped support for older cards, I had to get a new card to keep up.01:57
compilerwriterthis is what a forum at nvidia has suggested adola01:57
compilerwriterI just upgraded yes.01:57
neversfeldecompilerwriter: you should really not do this manually, install nvidia-gly-180, if your card is supported01:58
neversfeldes/nvidia-gly-180/nvidia-glx-18001:58
compilerwriterI have a GeForce MX420  sadly it is in AGP port so what to upgrade too?01:58
Adolacompilerwriter: You can attempt to use opensource drivers01:58
Adolacompilerwriter: Google : nVidia opensource drivers01:59
AdolaIt WILL be substantially slower, or at least, always has been for me.01:59
AdolaOtherwise, your going to have to stay in 8.1001:59
neversfeldeyes, seems to be an old card?01:59
compilerwriterMachine was built at the end of 2002.02:01
compilerwriterFor how much longer will 8.10 be supported?02:01
DragnslcrApril 2010, I think02:02
DragnslcrI think normal releases are 18 months02:02
neversfeldeyes, we support it 18 months02:02
compilerwriterWell at least I can be secure for a while if I resort to that until I can buy a new box.  It seems this one is becoming really dated.02:03
compilerwriterI installed ubuntu on this one when the folks at Redmond WA pissed me off with Vista.02:04
Adolacompilerwriter: Again, you can _ATTEMPT_ opensource drivers, they may keep you USING your machine, but, it won't be pretty.02:04
Adola...Litterally.02:04
compilerwriterperhaps I should try them with xoffice or busybox?02:05
compilerwriterI am looking into Nouveau now.02:05
AdolaI don't know what opensource drivers support Nvidia, I'm an ATi man myself :)02:05
neversfeldeI have an elder Geforce 6200 here, works very good and shouldn't be too expensive02:06
* Adola has a 650002:06
neversfeldeI have two displays, effects on and it works on karmic02:07
AdolaI've heard good things about Karmic and intel video.02:07
AdolaI've got a netbook with an intel on it!02:08
AdolaI'm excited about a stable karmic to come out.02:08
neversfeldewell, could not be worse02:08
AdolaSpeaking of netbooks, is there a KDE version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix?02:08
AdolaGnome isn't pretty, I want KDE.02:08
neversfeldetry the live cd, I think alpha 3 knocks on the door02:08
AdolaBUT, I do like what Gnome did with the whole.02:08
AdolaLive cd?02:09
AdolaNetbook has no CD drive.02:09
neversfeldeyo, live usb stick02:09
AdolaAlpha 3?02:09
AdolaAs in 4.3?02:09
neversfeldeUbuntu Alpha 3 with KDE 4.3 RC02:10
AdolaUbuntu Alpha 3?  WTF?!02:10
AdolaGot a link?  I've never herad of Ubuntu Alpha 3.02:10
neversfeldeif you do not know how to create a live usb stick try usb-creator-kde from rgreenings ppa02:10
neversfeldehttps://edge.launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive/ppa02:10
compilerwriterare they AGP port cards neversfelde02:10
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for karmic02:10
neversfeldeAdola: Alpha2 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/karmic-alpha-202:11
neversfeldebazhang: hum, sorry02:11
AdolaWait, alpha 3?  or alpha 2?02:11
compilerwriterAdolaif they are AGP cards I could upgrade to them then?02:12
neversfeldeAdola: Alpha 3 is near, but we should really talk in the other channel02:12
Adolacompilerwriter: What?  What do you mean "if they are AGP cards I could upgrade to them then?"02:12
compilerwriterWell thanks for the chat Adola and neversfelde time to eat some chow.02:12
ZoraelIs it just me or is a Walk Through Windows (All Desktops) keybind missing? I can only alt-tab through items on the current one.02:14
ubuntuGood evening everyone.  I cannot boot into WIndows or Linux.  I get error 14.  Can anyone assist, please.02:34
ubuntuI had gOS installed and it did an update and all I got for boot was a memory checker.  I tried installing Kubuntu in the same place to overide gOS and now I get error 14.02:35
ubuntuI booted with a Live XP and my WIndows Home is still there.02:35
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ubuntuIs it possible to fix error 14?02:48
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murryATI Radeon series or NVIDIA Graphics cards? which is better?02:59
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Adolamurry: ATi has better hardware, Nvidia has better driver support.03:00
murrywhat do you mean better hardware?  longer lasting?03:02
UnluckyMikei have an old ATI card still kicking i use when my nvidia cards die03:03
murryis the driver support sufficient for your ati?03:03
BluesKajubuntu_,  at boot up ?03:04
Adola^5 UnluckyMike!03:04
Adolamurry: Yeah, and IMO you can get stronger stuff for less03:04
PackardBellYes at boot up03:05
Adolamurry: ATi Driver suppport is lacking...Like, my old x300 was dropped from proprietary on the upgrade to 9.0403:05
AdolaI've got an nvidia 6500 now, it's supported.03:05
BluesKajdid you just install kubuntu or windows , PackardBell ?03:05
murryhmm well thanx, i'll be thinking03:06
PackardBellI installed XP, then went to check out gOS.  gOS did an upgrade and at next boot it only had 2 items.  Memory x86 tester and XP Home.  I downloaded Kubuntu 8 KDE3, installed and rebooted and got error 14.03:07
BluesKajPackardBell, because it's prolly a grub error03:07
BluesKaj!grub03:07
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:07
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PackardBellAny way to fix it without re-installing XP and Kubuntu?03:07
BluesKajPackardBell, yeah check the urls above03:08
PackardBellThank you03:09
PackardBellI get a strange error and a bunch of stuff when I ran fdisk03:12
PackardBellThis doesn't look like a partition table03:12
PackardBellProbably you selected the wrong device.03:12
BluesKajPackardBell, this will be more specific to your problem http://linux-tipps.blogspot.com/2009/02/grub-error-codes.html03:12
PackardBellPartition table entries are not in disk order03:13
PackardBellSays error code but not how to fix it and I know nothing on linux.03:13
PackardBellI will continue working on that repair site and see what happens03:15
namelezzhii03:20
BluesKajhi namelezz03:22
namelezzyeah03:23
namelezzam here03:23
namelezzhow are you doing??03:23
BluesKajok, do you have a question ?03:23
namelezzyeah03:23
namelezzhow do you use this konversation thing??03:24
BluesKajwell it seems you are using it ok so far , namelezz03:24
namelezzno i just updated my ubuntu03:25
asobiany limitations on recognizing hard drive sizes?03:25
namelezzand was given this window03:25
namelezzand so i said hi03:25
namelezzok03:25
namelezzi want to install a program03:26
namelezzbut it always comes error03:26
namelezzwhy??03:26
BluesKajnamelezz, what are you using to install the program/application ?03:27
namelezzi just double clicked and an active application came on03:30
UnluckyMikeis there a better solution for korganizer sync with google calendar, or is gcaldaemon the only way to go?03:30
namelezzjust like google destop03:30
namelezzi cant install it03:31
BluesKajclicked om what ?03:31
BluesKajon03:31
namelezzthe set up03:31
namelezzok i downloaded the google desktop03:32
namelezzso i double clicked the set up03:32
namelezzand the error came03:32
CleanLaundryhow do I stream videos in firefox without having to download them?03:32
bazhangnamelezz, downloaded from where, please give the url03:32
bazhangCleanLaundry, install the appropriate plugins03:33
namelezzbazhang what do u want to download???03:33
namelezzi have some ubuntu softwares here with me03:33
bazhangnamelezz, what is the url you downloaded google desktop from03:33
namelezzi typed it in google and the site came03:34
namelezzbut it seems i forgot the url03:34
namelezzmy bad03:34
bazhangnamelezz, please give us more info, and dont use the enter key so much03:34
namelezzplus my dictionary cant find any word i type in it03:34
namelezzok03:35
namelezzwhat i am saying is. i wanted a google dekstop. so i went to google and typed google desktop. after somtime they gave me a site to download it. i did it perfectly. after it finishes i double clicked and it appeared error. and my dictionary cant find any word i type in it...is that ok now???03:37
bazhangnamelezz, give us the url.03:37
namelezzi said i forgot the url03:37
bazhangplease find it, or no real way to assist you.03:38
namelezzok please wit03:38
namelezzwait03:38
murrywas it destop.google.com?03:38
namelezzyeah03:40
namelezzi think its desktop google.com03:40
bazhangnamelezz, was the file a .deb, a tar.gz , or something other03:41
kaddiI just installed FF 3.5 and was wondering if their is a safe way to remove plugins? I would like to try the "extension.checkcompatibility"-hack, but this automatically turns on the plugins for xulrunner 1.9.0.7 when 3.5 is running on xulrunner 1.9.1, which makes it crash on startup :/03:41
BluesKajgoogle auto detects the OS thru the browser so it must be google desktop linux deb03:42
bazhanghopefully03:42
murrynamelezz what was the error msg?03:43
namelezzi think i have deleted the set up... came you gus help me get it??? and my dictionary too03:43
namelezzit says it does not support03:43
BluesKajjust tried it , but there are rpm versions, of google desktop03:43
bazhangnamelezz, deleted how?03:43
BluesKajprolly an rpm rather than deb03:43
namelezzso where can i get it to install and how03:43
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namelezzi deleted the downloaded setup..the one i got from the site03:44
murryhttp://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html03:44
murryis that the same or diff than what you tried?03:44
BluesKajhttp://desktop.google.com/en/linux/download.html03:45
bazhangnamelezz, you need the .deb file03:45
namelezzok thank you03:45
bazhangit will labeled as Ubuntu next to the link03:45
namelezzand how about the dictionary problem ??03:45
bazhangnamelezz, which dictionary03:46
namelezzi have a dictionary on my application. i think its a default one. but anytime i try to find a word in it, it always comes out with nothing03:47
bazhangnamelezz, which application are you referring to03:47
namelezzthe google desktop is open now...which one should i download?03:48
bazhangthe one with Ubuntu next to it, the .deb file03:48
BluesKajnamelezz, then right click on the file after it's finished downoading and choose "open with " / GDebi Package Installer03:48
namelezzok i have here .rpm and .deb03:49
BluesKajdeb03:49
bazhangthe .deb namelezz03:50
namelezzok i am doing it.....the dictionary is on top of the office application03:50
bazhangnamelezz, open office?03:51
namelezzyeah03:51
bazhangnamelezz, what language are you searching in03:51
namelezzthe settings is on english03:51
namelezzi looked for CAT and it couldnt give me the definition03:52
bazhangyou need a definition of 'cat' ?03:53
namelezza whole lot but thats one of them. yeah03:53
bazhangdont see a dictionary in open office03:54
namelezzwhen you go to application, then to office...dictionary is next to pop out03:55
bazhangnamelezz, give a screenshot of this dictionary in open office03:55
namelezzok03:55
bazhang!imagebin | namelezz03:55
ubottunamelezz: Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.03:55
BluesKajsacktime ..night all03:58
namelezzi just did that03:59
bazhanggive us the url03:59
namelezzhttp://imagebin.org/5474204:00
typ30n3gativ3need a little help removing a kernel04:01
kuruminalguem que curte  at the drive-in e the mars volta04:01
murrynight04:01
bazhangkurumin, #ubuntu-br04:01
bazhangnamelezz, you did not show the 'cat' search ; it works fine here04:02
namelezzhave you guys got the link ??04:02
namelezzok hold on04:02
bazhangnamelezz, enter the word cat ; hit enter then wait04:02
typ30n3gativ3when I was installing kubuntu...for some reason I forget I installed linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-13-server package.  I also have linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic.  Can I boot into the generic kernel and use synaptic to remove the server kernel?04:03
kuruminalguem de sao paulo04:04
bazhangtyp30n3gativ3, sure04:04
bazhangkurumin, brasil ?04:04
typ30n3gativ3bazhang: how do i edit the GRUB afterwards?  does it update itself upon removing the server-kernel?04:04
bazhangtyp30n3gativ3, you are booting into the generic? no need to edit grub afaik04:05
namelezzhttp://imagebin.org/5474504:06
typ30n3gativ3the server kernel is the first one on the list04:06
bazhangnamelezz, you are an espanol system?04:06
namelezznope english but i will like it to be both espanol and english04:07
kuruminvao se foder04:08
namelezzi write books, so i will like it to be both04:08
bazhangnamelezz, seems you dont have the proper libraries installed, or it is set to espanol currently04:08
namelezzi checked the preference and its english...ok any help??04:09
typ30n3gativ3I also have linux-source-2.6.28 installed...do I need that?  It's just the source code and I'm not a coder04:09
bazhangnamelezz, check 'available dictionaries' under view, then hit the toggle bar to bring them up04:10
namelezzi am updating the system file04:15
namelezz will do that after that04:15
namelezzcan i install wallpaper sequence too??04:17
namelezzanybody there??04:22
bazhangwhat wallpaper sequence namelezz ? also you need to use people's nicknames to get their attention, as we are in many channels04:25
bazhangnamelezz, type  baz <tab>04:25
namelezzok..<bazhang> you see i have a wallpaper sequence...after installing it, it will keep changing your wallpaper to the pictures you assign to it04:27
bazhangnamelezz, where did you install it from; what is the name of the application04:27
namelezz<bazhang> its called webshot...and i downloaded it sometime ago...about a week or two04:29
bazhangnamelezz, a .deb ? from a 3rd party website? from the repos? you need to give more complete details.04:30
namelezzi got it from filehippo.com04:31
namelezz<bazhang>it is .exe file04:31
bazhangnamelezz, that is a windows program04:32
namelezzohh ok...so where can i get the setup for ubuntu?04:32
namelezz<bazhang>where can i get the setup to install on ubuntu?04:34
bazhangnamelezz, no idea of that exact program; there are certainly others that have similar capabilities that work with Ubuntu though04:34
namelezzchange dekstop pictures frequently on its own?04:35
kaddiif you don't want a certain order, you can simply set this in appearence04:36
kaddido a right click on your desktop, select settings04:36
kaddiin the part backgroundpicture, click on the drop down menu next du type: select dia show (not sure how is it called in english) and it'll let you choose a folder from which the photos will be chosen04:37
namelezz<kaddi>ok04:38
kaddinamelezz: is this what you want, or where you looking for something more sophisticated?04:41
namelezz<kaddi> something more than this.04:43
cjaeis there a known bug for amarok using 100% cpu or is it scanning my collection or something?04:43
bazhangnamelezz, there is something called wallpaper-tray ,it is gnome though (works with kde, but will pull in some gnome-libs)04:44
bazhang!info wallpaper-tray | namelezz04:44
ubottunamelezz: wallpaper-tray (source: wallpaper-tray): wallpaper changing utility for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 92 kB, installed size 372 kB04:44
bazhangnamelezz, don't download random stuff from third party websites; use the package manager and the software repositories of ubuntu/kubuntu to install software packages.04:45
namelezz<bazhang>thank you04:46
bazhangnamelezz, you know how to install it?04:46
namelezz<bazhang>nope04:47
bazhangnamelezz, open a konsole04:47
namelezz<bazhang>where can i find that please?04:47
bazhangnamelezz, alt f2 konsole04:48
namelezz<bazhang>i got it04:49
bazhangnamelezz, now type this : sudo apt-get install wallpaper-tray  (then your user pass, and when asked Y)04:50
namelezz<bazhang>i did and the window is gone04:53
bazhangnamelezz, what window04:53
namelezz<bazhang>the konsole04:53
bazhangnamelezz, you closed it?04:54
kaddihe probably typed into the alt+f2 window04:54
bazhangnamelezz, you need to type that into Konsole <--------04:54
ign0ramushi kaddi! :)04:55
namelezz<i typed <sudo apt-get install wallpaper-tray >and it went off04:55
kaddihi ign0ramus :)04:55
bazhangnamelezz, without asking for a pass? it just closed on its own?04:56
namelezzyeah04:56
bazhanghttp://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  namelezz please download and read this book.04:56
namelezzok04:57
bazhangnamelezz, you will need to re-open konsole and try that again, and don't shut it accidentally or otherwise04:57
kaddishould apt-cache policy flashplugin* list me all packages starting with flashplugin?04:58
Dragnslcrkaddi- it doesn't for me. W: Unable to locate package flashplugin*04:59
kaddiDragnslcr: it doesn't for me either, but I would bet a lot of money that it worked with firefox* earlier this night04:59
Dragnslcrapt-cache search would work though04:59
namelezzight04:59
kaddidoesn't list if it is installed or not though05:00
bazhangnamelezz, good luck, I have to head out now. please bookmark that book above and read it. its free and very informative.05:00
Dragnslcrkaddi- the only package that you should care about that matches that is flashplugin-installer05:00
namelezzok <baz>i think ihave given too much problem05:01
Dragnslcrflashplugin-nonfree is just a metapackage for flashplugin-installer now05:01
kaddigood to now :)05:01
bazhangno problem at all namelezz ; just better to be informed so you can ask better questions should the need arise :)05:02
namelezzits my first time so..forgive moi....kaddi que haces??05:02
namelezzok05:04
kaddiDragnslcr: it definitely worked earlier tonight, I typed apt-cache policy firefox* and got the result for firefox and firefox-3.505:04
kaddisee here http://nopaste.com/p/aEA6bBBQib05:04
kaddifunny it doesn't work now05:04
kaddinamelezz: do you still need help?05:04
jithinehi is anyone able to play last.fm tracks in ammarok 2.1.105:05
Dragnslcrkaddi- haha, guess why it worked05:05
kadditell me :p05:06
namelezznoe05:06
namelezznope05:06
kaddi:)05:06
DragnslcrLook at the directory you were in when you ran that command05:06
kaddilol05:06
namelezzhow can i add hot97 on the internet fm program??05:06
Dragnslcrkaddi- see why it worked?05:07
kaddiDragnslcr: and I was so happy about this working like I wanted it to work and not like it usually does XD05:07
kaddiyes I do :p05:07
DragnslcrHehe05:07
DragnslcrI doubt I would have thought of it, either05:08
kaddihehe05:08
kaddinamelezz: what pogram are you using?05:09
namelezzrhythmbox music player05:10
kaddiare you using ubuntu or kubuntu?05:10
namelezzubuntu05:10
kaddinamelezz: please ask in the following channel: #ubuntu05:11
kaddithis channel is for kubuntu support, we do not use the same applications as ubuntu and can therefore not give you precise advice on how to do what you want to do05:11
namelezzohh ok05:12
namelezzwho is on facebook here05:12
namelezzam idle and will love to keep talking05:12
bazhang#kubuntu-offtopic for chat please namelezz05:13
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SerpardumI can't remember the name of that file, .../X11/...conf   it has the video settings/resolutions05:22
Serpardumxorg.conf I think.  let me checjk05:23
Serpardumyeah, /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:23
kaddi /etc/X11/xorg.conf but be careful what you editk in there and make a backup before changing anything ;)05:23
Serpardumright kaddi05:24
kaddisry it took so long head to realise /etc would not be recognized as a valid command bei freenode -.-05:24
kaddi*had even05:24
minifigI installed Kubuntu 8.04 using Wubi and it is working quite well.  There is a version upgrade available.  Can I do that without loosing KDE3?05:24
minifigIs it safe to do version upgrades?05:24
kaddiminifig: you can find instruction on how to upgrade to jaunty keeping kde3 here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty05:25
kaddihowever I quite like kde4 and would suggest that you try it out :)05:26
minifigI have tried KDE 4 using a live CD and don't not care for it.05:26
kaddiok, :)05:27
minifigI am so used to Windows 98 and all that adding all that stuff just isn't pleasant for me.  If that makes any sense.05:27
SerpardumOkay, in x11.conf I have "Configured Video Device" and "Configured Monitor" yet I can only go to 1024x768.  Last time I had changed that and put in specific settings, "1440 x 900" etc...  Is there a way I can changet he "confugred" settings?05:28
minifigI will try the version upgrade and see what happens.05:28
kaddiI ain't saying anything. IMHO "I don't like it" is the best reason not to use a program. ;) BUT (there is always a but ;) ) I find KDE4 grows on you, I wasn't convinced I'd like it and know I'm happy with it05:28
minifigWell, I cannot argue that because at first I couldn't stand Linux, but lookie here I am using it.  lol05:29
kaddiminifig, did you read the link? If you simply upgrade you will get kde4, you need to back up your settings first05:29
kaddihehe05:30
minifigLoading site now.05:30
kaddiyou need to scroll down a bit, the part is titled "updating from  8.04 [hardy heron]05:30
kaddi"05:30
eatThisAndDieguys, my audio has suddenly failed. all i hear now is like laggy sounds05:32
eatThisAndDieand i have no real idea what to do bout it..05:33
kaddihave you tried to reboot?05:34
eatThisAndDiekaddi: yes same thing05:34
eatThisAndDiei initially killed knotify4 to stop it.05:34
kaddisry, this goes over my head then. ;) All I can add is that you can set standard output under system settings multimedia.. maybe if you switch output it will work again?05:35
eatThisAndDiewhen i plug my laptop charger out / in, i get the laggy sounds again, and so i gotta kill knotify4 again.05:35
kaddisystem settings->multimedia that is05:35
cjaeOk I finally just figured out how to use kid3 except for the cddb part wherever it is, anyway, any idea why it keeps having errors why it cannot save the modified file names?05:35
eatThisAndDiekaddi: you mean the "output preference" ?05:37
kaddieatThisAndDie: something else you might try is disabling sound notifications for kwin or knotify If you unplug your power supply kwin/notify usually plays a sound... if you disable that maybe knotify won't interfer with suond?05:37
kaddieatThisAndDie: probably, my OS isn't english, so I'm translating as best I can ;)05:38
eatThisAndDiekaddi: same applies when i try to play games, or audio,05:38
eatThisAndDieso the problem is not just the kwin / knotify05:38
eatThisAndDieseems more like the hardware / driver / backend05:38
kaddieatThisAndDie: this is definitely out of my league then05:40
eatThisAndDiekaddi: thanks anyway :)05:40
kaddiyou're welcome :)05:41
b3lorixhey, im trying to install nvidia on kubuntu, how do you kill the display manager, i know in ubuntu its sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop05:41
eatThisAndDieb3lorix try kdm instead of gdm,05:41
Fetusbubblesudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ?05:41
b3lorixhaha ok05:42
b3lorixthanks05:42
Fetusbubble):05:42
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voxi'm trying to view yenc-encoded images with knode, but its only displaying the image code, not the image itself. i've installed the yenc decoder package. any thoughts?05:43
kaddivox maybe check the file association under system settings ->advanced ->file association?05:45
kaddiuh no,sry05:45
kaddithat probably won't work, I misunderstood05:45
tuvokvox: use pan and be done with it05:45
tuvokyou don't HAVE to use stuff that starts with "k"05:46
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akSeyahi there05:47
kaddi!hi| akSeya05:48
ubottuakSeya: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:48
akSeyadoes anybody knows a good app to sync SMS from my cellphone?05:48
akSeyathanks ;)05:48
voxdarthanubis: yeah that works. cheers05:50
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darthanubishow does one change the KDM theme?06:13
kaddiDragnslcr: you told me before that flashplugin-nonfree was just a container, right? So if I install flashplugin-installer everything necessary should be installed?06:15
Dragnslcrkaddi- yeah, -nonfree is just a metapackage in 9.0406:17
kaddidarthanubis: look at appearance in system settings, you can set most of the stuff in their. (top row, third icon from the left, in case my translation is wrong ;) )06:18
kaddiDragnslcr: thanks :)06:18
darthanubiskaddi: I need root access06:20
darthanubiswhat is the cmd from term?06:20
kaddidarthanubis: you shouldn't need root access for that06:21
darthanubisyou need root to change KDM themes, yes you do06:21
darthanubisnow how anyone who knows?06:21
kaddiwe're not talking about the same thing then06:24
kaddilook at system settings -> advanced ->loginmanager-> themes is this what you are looking for?06:26
kaddiyou'll need to enter your password to open loginmanager06:26
darthanubisError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-anubis" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.06:28
darthanubiskaddi: there was no dialog to enter my password06:29
darthanubisI called it via sudo from cli, and got errors06:29
kaddi!kdesudo06:29
ubottuIn KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why06:29
kaddidon't use sudo with graphical applications, that won't end well06:30
darthanubisI don't seem to have ksudo on my system?06:30
kaddikdesudo or kdesu not ksudo06:31
darthanubisjust gksudo?06:31
kadditry kdesudo programname06:31
darthanubisboth gksudo and kdesudo started the app with seemingly root. kdesudo , obvious did it better, but I still can't download and install new KDM themes?06:34
darthanubisI see the themes, but click install does nothing06:35
DarkKraiCan anyone tell me why Ark cannot open up .rars?06:37
kaddiDarkKrai: see if rar is installed, afaik it is not installed by default06:39
DarkKraiCan anyone tell me why Ark cannot open up .rars?oh okay06:39
DarkKraisorry had that in my chat input06:39
DarkKraithank you, kaddi06:40
DarkKraioh, I have another question06:40
DarkKraihttp://avanix.uni.cc/images/snapshot2.png06:40
DarkKraihow do I install those?06:40
DarkKraiawesome, its working now06:41
kaddiDarkKrai: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:42
DarkKraiawesome, thanks again06:43
DarkKraiits working :)06:43
kaddidarthanubis: I'm kind off baffled, don't see why this doesn't work06:43
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darthanubiskaddi: are you trying it yourself?06:44
kaddiyes, I'm experiencing the same thing as you are06:44
darthanubiswhew, I love when I find out I'm not crazy;)06:44
kaddithis might be a problem on kde-look.org though, i can't download wallpapers either06:44
darthanubisI can download EVERYTHIGN else06:44
darthanubisI'm downloading and installing slpash screen themes right now06:44
darthanubisok, it said they were installing bu tthey did not06:46
kaddi_darthanubis: you could alway just download the file from kde-look and install it manually that works fine for me06:52
darthanubiskaddi: desktop themes window themes seems to be the only ones working06:52
darthanubiskaddi_: that is cool, I just like to know why things donn't behave as they should06:53
darthanubisBut this is RC so maybe Final version will be near falwless06:53
kaddi_I can't tell you that :p06:53
darthanubisthanks for what you did do though:)06:53
kaddi_you're on 4.3?06:53
darthanubisyes06:53
erik_hi can anyone help with sound problem06:53
kaddi_I'm not :p06:53
darthanubiskaddi_: again nice to know it affects us both06:53
kaddi_I think it's a problem at the website, not with kde itself, but I don't know06:53
erik_hi06:54
erik_if anyone can help with sound problem please tell06:55
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kaddi_I'm still having the issue where my desktop completely freezes, keyboard does not respond to anything (alt+F4,ctrl+alt+f2,ctrl+alt+del, which is enabled), you can't even get the led for toggling shift to work, but sound is still playing... the only solution then is a hardreboot. I'm already running the new kernel 2.6.30-020630rc6 (I had the same issues with 28) and using kde 4.2.4 on jaunty ... anyone has an idea what might cause this?07:03
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mwalkerI want to test out KDE 4.3 but I'm not sure how to get the upgrade from the command line.07:11
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typ30n3gativ3I upgraded to 4.3 and lost my icons07:12
typ30n3gativ3had to re-install them07:12
cismajor97is it to buggy to test out at this point?07:13
cismajor97more like an alpha?07:13
typ30n3gativ3dunno...everything seems fine.  I had to re-install alot of stuff after the upgrade though07:14
kaddithe problem is that once you upgrade you can't easily go back ... so usually if you don't need to you won't upgrade07:14
cismajor97cool I'll create a snapshot of my VM first before I mess with the upgrade07:14
kaddihehe, that might be a good idea :p07:14
cismajor97is there a command similar to tracert in bash?07:15
kaddiremind what tracert does please07:15
cismajor97you can trace a route to a certain IP07:15
typ30n3gativ3cismajor97: yea - traceroute07:16
cismajor97basically it lists all the hops between your local host and the host you want to get to07:16
kaddiyes I know, just needed a kick to be sure .. :p I would have said tracepath, but I don't know what the difference between that and traceroute is07:17
cismajor97i wasn't sure what it was called in bash07:17
typ30n3gativ3cismajor97: traceroute is not installed by default...you have to apt-get it07:17
cismajor97I'm a Windows guy exploring Linux07:18
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cismajor97typ30n3gativ3: thanks07:18
typ30n3gativ3cismajor97: np07:18
kaddicismajor97: I used to be... somewhere along the road... :P07:19
cismajor97kaddi: Well in my case it pays my mortgage :)07:19
typ30n3gativ3cismajor97: once you get it installed the <code>man traceroute</code>in the konsole will show you the details07:19
kaddii used to be a windows person, not a guy XD07:19
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darkraiHas anyone been able to run Photoshop CS4/CS3 under WINE?07:32
Driv3r912Anyone know how to get KDE to have the Oxygen theme look like this: http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg?07:33
Driv3r912This theme can be found in the openSUSE 11.1 KDE.07:34
bazhangdarkrai, check the appdb07:35
bazhang!appdb | darkrai07:35
ubottudarkrai: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help07:35
Driv3r912Any takers by chance?07:38
bazhangDriv3r912, had a look at kde-look yet?07:39
Driv3r912I looked around, didn't see it...07:39
copproHow do I deuglify Firefox without installing another theme (and please don't say "install another theme". I mean it)07:43
Captain_Haddocklots of patience07:45
copprookay, I probably didn't miss any answers, but just to be sure: did I miss anything?07:45
Captain_Haddockyes07:46
copproCaptain_Haddock: my connection just dropped, it's always good to be sure07:46
Captain_Haddock"change your theme" :P07:46
Captain_Haddockwhat's ugly about your FF?07:46
RefraxxHello All07:46
Captain_HaddockHi07:47
picketfencesRefraxx is my brother, and I suggested he use Konversation whenever he needs help07:48
copproCaptain_Haddock: tabs and form controls don't render good. At all. Tabs I can fix with a theme, but the rest is still bad. I can get a screenshot if my connection doesn't keep dropping07:51
copproIt's really bad now that I'm using 3.5, but 3.0 definitely had it too07:51
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Daemonhow can i tell what type of file system im using?07:57
Daemonexample ext3 or ext4?07:57
copproDaemon: /etc/mtab07:57
Daemonty07:58
RefraxxHi all, I'm new to Kubuntu, my bro just helped me install this Konversation thing. What IS this place? He said I could find help in here.08:05
kaddi_Refraxx: hello and welcome. :) This is the official (english) support channel for kubuntu08:06
kaddi_if you have a problem or need an answer, state your question and if someone knows the answer (s)he'll help you out08:06
RefraxxAny idea how to stop the lagg when online?08:06
Refraxxkool, Hi Kaddi08:07
kaddi_and no, I don't know how to stop the lag08:07
Refraxxdo u know some1 who does?08:07
Refraxxreferalls?08:07
Refraxxadvice?08:07
copproRefraxx: get a better connection?08:08
kaddi_this is probably more of an irc problem then an actual kubuntu problem :p08:08
Refraxxok, I have a more Kubuntu related prob.08:08
RefraxxI mess up something on the task bar @ bottom of my screen & kant fix it08:09
RefraxxXD08:09
jussi01Refraxx: try to elaborate a litttle, tell us exactly what the problem is08:10
Refraxxu know the Black taskbar? theres no space on the left....there was b 4.08:10
Refraxx@ the bottom of the screen, everything is pushed over to the left08:11
copproTry switching desktops08:11
copproand switching back08:11
Refraxxkinda kool, but it didnt work. It's the same on the other desktop08:12
RefraxxI'm gonna have 2 remember I can do that.08:12
Refraxxthere used 2 b a space between the favorites polder & the desktop icons. now they are squished 2gether08:13
RefraxxMy Bro said I might need 2 do a full reset, but I dont remember how08:14
copprojust go K->Leave->Restart08:15
Refraxx(full reset of the taskbars)08:15
copprooh08:15
copproAlt-F2 -> killall plasma, Alt-F2 -> plasma08:15
Refraxxsry--didnt think of it till 2 late08:15
Refraxxok, then what?08:15
copprodid you do that?08:16
Refraxxhang on....08:16
Refraxxthere was a black horizontal address lookin bar....What was that?08:17
copprothat's the command bar08:18
RefraxxI was kinda expecting the bottom of screen 2 go naked08:18
copproit can hit any menu item you type in or run a command as if from the terminal08:18
Refraxxwhen I pushed f208:19
copproyou type "killall plasma" in there to kill the taskbar08:19
copproand then do it again with just "plasma" to restart it08:19
Refraxxah, Ok, that makes more sense. Gonna do it now brb08:19
copproyou can use it to start applications from the keyboard too, without that nasty menu navigation stuff :)08:20
Refraxxok, I don't understand something08:21
RefraxxI typed it in, but08:21
Refraxxnothing happened08:21
Refraxxshouldnt the screen go blank or something?08:21
RefraxxHalfway through "killallplasma" is a sign that pops up saying "run kill"08:23
Refraxxwhat is that?08:23
coppro"killall plasma" is two words08:24
copproand no, the screen won't go blank, but the taskbar will disappear08:24
Refraxxoh, ok. will this chat box still be open?08:25
copproyes08:25
coppro"run kill" is just a prompt to run the "kill" command, which kills a specified process. killall kills all processes with a given name08:25
copproand unless you are running multiple sessions, won't cause problems08:25
Refraxxok.nah, just running this chat program08:25
Refraxxhmmmm....should I have unlocked widgets first?08:27
copproshouldn't matter08:27
copproif you did it right, the bar should disappear when killed08:28
Refraxxok, well it didnt work08:28
Refraxxdude, the whole screen went black08:28
Refraxxexcept 4 the chat box08:28
copprooh, you don't have it maximized08:30
* coppro forgets these things sometimes08:30
Refraxxjust tried it again, still looks the same.....Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong...doing it just like u said 2 do it08:31
copprocan you get a screeenshot?08:31
RefraxxMaximized?08:31
copprofilling up the whole screen08:31
RefraxxYeah, I think I can screen shot it 4 u08:31
Refraxxok, Got a screenshot, where 2 send it?08:33
copprodoes your client have DCC?08:33
Refraxxno, DSL08:34
copproah, here we go08:34
copprohttp://konversation.berlios.de/docs/dcc.html08:34
Refraxxwhat is a version request?08:34
copproit's just me seeing what IRC program you're using08:34
Refraxxok08:35
Refraxxu want me 2 click on the link?08:35
copproyeah08:35
copproit'll explain how to send me a file08:35
Refraxxreading the info..............08:36
Refraxxwell this is crazy...NOW I cant find the pic, I'll take another one08:39
Refraxx& send it 2 u08:39
Refraxxsry, thats not what I wanted 2 do.08:41
Refraxxtrying 2 c it b 4 I sent it.08:41
darkrai=/08:44
RefraxxFinally, I figured out wich one was the one08:47
Refraxxcoppro- It's awaiting ur acceptance08:48
copproI don't see it :/08:48
RefraxxDo u c this?     [DCC] Asking coppro to accept upload of "tec_support_screenshot.png" (489.6 KB)...08:48
coppronope08:49
kaddi_maybe upload the file to file-upload.net or similar, give the link here and delete the file once you're done?08:49
copprobut DCC is so much faster :P08:50
kaddi_not if you can't get the picture :P08:50
Refraxxthis is weird....I see the pic, as you should see it.08:50
RefraxxGona try kaddi's idea, gimme a sec.....08:51
Captain_Haddockcoppro: no idea re: tabs not rendering properly... There is a Firefox channel on irc.mozilla.org which might be able to provide specific help if you give them screenshots.08:53
copproCaptain_Haddock: I think it's a KDE issue - do you see them fine?08:53
Captain_Haddockyep08:54
Refraxxok, here it is coppro08:54
Refraxxhttp://www.myfileupload.net/download.php?file=2e6e40c1b64aec0a9cdf260b6c7c32f308:54
Refraxxthat's the link it gave me08:54
Captain_HaddockKDE 4.2 / FF 3.0.1108:54
Refraxxdo u c it?08:55
copproRefraxx: oh, I know what happened08:56
copproyou accidentally removed your system tray from the bar so it got confused08:56
copproRight-click and pick "Add widgets"08:56
copproand pick Task Manager from the list08:57
copprodrag it into position08:57
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Captain_Haddockcoppro: The screenshot is of chatzilla tabs?08:58
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copproCaptain_Haddock: yes08:58
copprobeen like that since I upgraded to Jaunty; both 3.0 and 3.508:58
Captain_HaddockAre you FF tabs fine?08:59
Captain_Haddockyour*08:59
RefraxxAwsome!!! It worked! thanks guys! you  all rock!08:59
copproCaptain_Haddock: not in the Default Theme09:00
copproin any other theme they look like they should09:00
copproalso, all form controls have gray squares around them09:00
Refraxxgotta go now, as it's 4am here & I NEED sleep09:00
RefraxxThanks again!09:00
crackstorehye all09:18
safruhanihi, how can i get a screen shot? (and how can i customize it a keyboard shortcut?)09:32
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eMyllersafruhani: open ksnapshot09:42
eMyllerstill dunno how you'd assign it for a shortcut.09:43
nathan7In the systemsettings09:43
nathan7It's under keyboard iirc09:43
eMylleryea, maybe09:43
nathan7It _IS_09:43
eMylleror sure09:43
crackstorehye all09:44
crackstorehow to fix ip add subnet and gateway?09:45
eMyllerctrl+print and alt+print are available. thanks, nathan709:45
crackstorewlan ip09:45
crackstore:)09:45
nathan7crackstore: Well, first stop smoking crack.09:46
crackstore:)09:50
crackstoresmoking?09:50
* crackstore not smoking :P09:50
cjaewhy does kde 4 hate .pdf's so much?09:50
kaddi_cjae what kind of problems are you having?09:51
cjaekaddi_, are you using kde 4.2.x, open a directory with many .pdfs and see for yourself09:53
cjaekaddi_, try to open two .pdf's in okular and see how much it slows system09:54
kaddi_kk09:54
kaddi_gimme a sec09:54
cjaekaddi_, I dont run that powerful a system though, p4 3.0 ghz and I can tell ... a lot, it may have something to do with the ext4 fs though too!09:56
kaddi_cjae I was just going to say.. I'm well over the minimal requirements for okular and I don't run ext409:57
cjaeand runs fine?09:58
kaddi_I have now a total of 1000 pages opened in okular, 3 pdf,one with 700pages, 2 with 150... can't say I'm noticing anything09:58
anasha* ehhe09:59
crackstore:)09:59
crackstoremy place have wireless09:59
haikelbonjour09:59
crackstorewhy my kubuntu cannot detect the wireless09:59
crackstoreadess09:59
crackstorehelp me prenzz10:00
crackstore:(10:00
cjaeI have been using kde 4 since .1 and was surprised too see it still having issues10:00
cjaeI have done many clean installs and such too10:00
haikelje suis debutant avec kubuntu et je n arrive pas a faire fonctionner bureau 3D10:01
haikelhelp please10:01
copeciao ragazzi qualcuno mi può aiutare?10:01
kaddi_cjae: I upgraded really early from 4.1 because I had nothing but trouble, but since then it has been pretty stable10:02
coperagazzi ho un problema con l avvio mi aiutate x favore..10:02
kaddi_italiano?10:02
copemastico da ieri kubuntu:)10:03
copesisi10:03
kaddi_!it | cope10:03
ubottucope: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)10:03
haikelping10:03
cjaekaddi_, yes I like it a lot but there is many things still missing10:03
kaddi_cjae I won't contradict you on that :p10:04
haikelhelp please10:05
haikeli m new in the  world of kubuntu10:06
haikelcool kubuntu10:06
kaddi_!fr | haikel10:07
ubottuhaikel: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr10:07
kaddi_haikel: would you prefer french or english?10:07
kaddi_(not sure I can help though, it's more a general question ;)10:08
haikelim not good in english10:08
haikel:)kaddi10:08
kaddi_haikel: je te conseillerai d'aller sur #ubuntu-fr alors. ;) tape simplement "/join #ubuntu-fr" et retour10:10
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baron86does anyone knows where the Menu in kubuntu is saved so i can modify it? I dont like Kmenu Editor Thnx10:39
xiaketbaron86: remove that widget and add a traditional widget10:46
baron86that wouldnt help.. I mean if its sth like a cong file that i could modify cause i want to make script for quick installation10:47
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haikelhello11:06
haikeli installed kubuntu but i don't find adept manager11:07
haikelhelp please11:07
Zoraelhaikel: Adept isn't used anymore, in favor of KPackageKit11:18
Zoraelhaikel: you can still install the adept package though, as far as I know11:19
haikelsudo apt-get install adept11:19
haikeli have no result with this command11:20
haikelit s impossible to find  this paquet11:21
haikelZoreal:)11:21
Zoraelhaikel: Do you have the universe repositories enabled? "kdesudo software-properties-kde"11:21
haikelno zoraeal11:22
haikelno Zoreal11:22
Zoraelhaikel: I just tried installing it and it works for me, you need the universe repos enabled th9ough11:22
Zorael-911:22
cjaeok I thought linux could make mount point across many harddrives, is the LVM and if so how do I enable it?11:23
cjae!lvm11:23
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto11:23
serenityi'm using 4.3rc, but can't find the akonadi resource for google calender. Where can i find it?11:24
krioxBut kubuntu whit xfce work like xfce?11:31
bazhangkriox, if you wish to try install xubuntu-desktop11:38
krioxno i have installed but i do not see more difference11:48
krioxhow make work amarock?11:49
krioxto play mp3 amd wma?11:49
krioxthanks for all by11:50
xwcahi11:55
dx_rvrhello could someone help me out with the KDE desktop?12:33
dx_rvri am having some isssues with my icons12:33
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dx_rvrbump...12:34
anr78is there a trigger here that lets me check the version of an application in Jaunty?12:35
anr78!krusader12:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about krusader12:35
jussi01!info waon | anr7812:40
ubottuanr78: waon (source: waon): A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB12:40
jussi01anr78: you can also check other versions like this:12:40
jussi01!info waon hardy12:41
ubottuwaon (source: waon): A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB12:41
anr78jussi01: ah. thanks.12:41
jussi01anr78: for other bot commands and use, see this:12:41
anr78!info krusader jaunty12:41
jussi01!bot12:41
ubottukrusader (source: krusader): twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE 4 (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 4059 kB, installed size 10416 kB12:41
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:41
kubuHi, pals. I have a problem changing Kjots fontsize grater than 14. It happens when i past a text from other application, say a web browser. I wonder if this is a bug.12:53
anathello, all13:07
frenchygood moarning every one :)13:08
anat))13:09
anatin Russia the day is the end13:09
anatwork day13:10
frenchylol :)13:13
frenchyi discovered a really annoying bug with kde rc1, can someone confirm that bug please before i report it ??? my version behave really weirdly13:13
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Guest69284o13:21
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orion_help me now update firefox 3.1 to 3.513:57
Piciorion_: Install the firefox-3.5 package13:57
tuvokPici: why does installing FF3.5 want to pull in FF3.0 as well?14:04
beilardhey, how can i add songs to my ipod with amarok 2?14:05
Picituvok: it looks like firefox-3.5 has ubufox as a recommended package, but ubufox requires firefox, which ff-3.5 doesn't provide.14:08
faileasbeilard: IIRC you need to add the ipod as a device, and it should be drag and drop after that14:12
tuvokPici: the preview version from mozilla worked better than ubuntu's final release. The 'open last viewed tabs" option after restarting FF3.5 does not appear to work?14:12
faileasHOWEVER, i personally have had amarok mess up my album art, so if its important to you... well, you;ve been warned14:13
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NiTzerI agree with faileas. moved to atunes14:13
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jim__many many boys but no girls....why???14:14
Picidarthanubis: I'm sorry, I actually don't use 3.5 on my system. You can file a bug for that issue if it is indeed a bug.  I'm filing one for it pulling in ff-3.0 right now.14:14
darthanubisThanks. I'm never sure if my issues are really bugs you know?14:15
darthanubisThat is a HUGE feature to be broekn on fianl release....regression?14:15
darthanubisbroekn14:15
darthanubisfinal14:15
darthanubisbroken@14:16
beilardfaileas: where can i add it as a device? i am using amarok 214:17
darthanubisPici: it seems Launchpad is broken for me as well14:26
darthanubisOur edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection.14:26
designs703Hi everyone. I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 but I find the settings app that is bundled to be confusing. How can I access the normal KDE settings app?14:26
darthanubisand clicking the disable redirection for 2hrs does nothing14:27
Picidarthanubis: I was just using edge and it was working fine. /me shrugs14:27
darthanubisdesigns703: don't use KDE4?14:27
designs703darthanubis: I am running Kubuntu 8.0414:27
designs703darthanubis: which uses KDE 3.5.7, I believe14:27
darthanubisoh, sorry14:28
designs703but I made the mistake of installing kubuntu-desktop instead of KDE by itself, and I don't like this configuration14:28
designs703darthanubis: np14:28
orion_help me now update firefox 3.1 to 3.514:29
orion_ops14:29
orion_sorry14:29
orion_ please help air theme final update14:29
orion_Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme) help me why ?14:30
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darthanubishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/39655614:32
suso_eeeeeeeh14:32
* designs703 goes to #kde14:33
darthanubisPici: seems to be broken even in the packages from Mozilla's PPA:(14:35
Picidarthanubis: Mozilla doesn't have a PPA. If you mean mozillateam, those people are Ubuntu developers14:36
darthanubisPici: oooh14:37
darthanubishttp://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu14:37
darthanubis"We" have to stop breaking perfectly good stuff when adding it to Ubuntu. It is starting to be our trademark. breaking upstream stuff:/14:38
CQhello, I have a few blocked updates, all of them kernel updates... any ideas why?14:47
bazhangCQ, that is normal, they are held back whilst others are yet to arrive14:48
CQok, so just wait and at some point they will install?14:48
bazhangCQ, yes, you can install now if you wish, or just wait a few days14:49
NiTzerCQ, yes or you can perform an apt-get dist-upgrade14:49
DragnslcrCQ- KPackageKit doesn't do a dist-upgrade, so the kernel packages are blocked because they have new dependencies14:50
DragnslcrI think the old Adept updater did a dist-upgrade instead of just a normal upgrade14:50
CQwhat's the diff between the normal and the dist-upgrade?14:51
bazhanginstalls held back items14:51
ActionParsnipCQ: dist upgrade also upgrades kernels and core libs14:51
ActionParsnipCQ: may not be needed so are in a seperate update14:51
CQah, ok, I thought that was just for release upgrades14:51
ActionParsnipCQ: especially kernels which people blindly upgrade even when its not needed14:51
NiTzerActionParsnip: Yep did that the other day and got screwed, using Karmic.  Better today.  Almost had to go vanilla14:53
ActionParsnipi don't understand the mindset, if you knew what a kernel was you'd realise its not necessary to get the newest kerneel14:54
NiTzerActionParsnip:  In my case I am helping with Karmic and testing the new Intel graphics cards and code with acceleration, but I agree14:55
NiTzerEspecially for production14:55
ActionParsnipNiTzer: testing is fine (and good) but for production its funnt14:55
ActionParsnipNiTzer: theres even some dude on answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu who says he's ruined his work laptop putting ubuntu on14:56
DragnslcrCQ- when a new version of a package has new dependencies, the new version gets blocked. A normal upgrade won't get the new version, but dist-upgrade will install the new dependencies and get the new version14:56
CQDragnslcr: that makes sense...14:56
DragnslcrTook me a couple times reading the apt-get man page to figure it out14:57
stephanhi, i always use fish://root@.. to copy files to a server, but know one of the new servers only accepts sudo (no root login) is there a way to use fish with sudo?14:57
ActionParsnipstephan: create a folder with write access to your user name you are writing or reading to/from14:58
stephanActionParsnip: thats not the fun fish used to be...15:00
ActionParsnipstephan: i wouldn't use anything over network that used root, not exactly security smart15:00
stephaneven ssh...15:01
stephanso i take my car and go to our provider and ask them to let me in?15:02
ActionParsnipstephan: i just wouldnt use root at all15:03
stephanonly sudo? or never change a "root:root" file?15:04
ActionParsnipstephan: not necessary if you use sudo15:04
Dragnslcrstephan- always connect to the server as a normal user and use sudo for root privileges15:05
stephanist there a "gui" tool to copy data with scp which is sudo able?15:08
ActionParsnip!find scp15:09
ubottuFound: escputil, liblscp-dev, liblscp2, libnet-scp-expect-perl, libnet-scp-perl (and 1 others)15:09
ActionParsnip!scp15:10
ubottuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/15:10
ActionParsnipi think filezilla can do it, not sure15:10
NiTzerFilezilla can do it15:10
NiTzerhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8600 for a good article on scp without passwords15:13
DragnslcrI don't recall scp supporting regular shell commands, but I could be wrong. If you need to run shell commands, you'd use a normal ssh connection15:17
DragnslcrDolphin does have a terminal pane, though, so you could have a local directory, a remote directory, and an ssh connection in the same window15:19
benny_anybody pls teach me how to install software in this kubuntu flatform?15:29
kaddibenny_: open the startmenu, go to programs, go to system, go to package manager (add/remove in the subtitle) and selet what you want, klick apply changes, enter your password and yo're done :)15:31
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benny_how i can use Yahoo mesenger here?15:37
phhbenny_: just launch kopete15:39
benny_how can i chat with my friend15:39
phhjust launch kopete ...15:40
benny_how can i use my web cam in kubuntu?15:40
phhsame answer.15:40
benny_i dont know how to use kapote15:42
benny_how to chat with kapote15:42
phhkopete ...15:44
phhlaunch it and you'll see ..15:44
kaddibenny_: kopete is a program whith which you can use icq, yahoo, msn, aim and many more with one program, you simply enter your nick and your password and it will connect you to your friends15:44
RefraxxHello all, is this a tech.support chat room?15:45
kaddiRefraxx: this is the kubuntu support chat room yes15:46
kaddiit is not a general tech support chat though ;)15:46
Refraxxok, you know the black taskbar @ the bottom of screen? Why would the software update icon still be there after I update the software??15:47
kaddiwhat did you update?15:47
kaddiwhich packages?15:47
Refraxxabt 10 security& 3or 4 bug fixes15:47
kaddiwhat happens when you click on the software update icon?15:48
kaddiyou asked me about the screenshot, this morning no?15:48
Refraxxit comes up with the typical screen, but there is a new thing here now that says "blocked updates" that came abt the same time the icon wouldn't dissapear15:49
RefraxxI cant delete the blocked u/d15:49
Refraxxtheres o icon for deletion15:49
Refraxxno*15:50
kaddiyes, as long as you don't install those there are packages available that are newer than yours and the software update will stay15:50
kaddidid you try the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to install them, or do you not want to install them?15:50
RefraxxI want to do whatever I need 2 do 2 make the software icon go away when I u/d everything15:51
RefraxxI just dont know HOW15:51
kaddithen try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a commandline15:52
Refraxxcomand line?     F2?15:52
Refraxxalt+F2?15:52
kaddiah sorry15:52
kaddihit alt+f2 type "konsole" in it, a commandline should open15:53
Refraxxk15:53
kadditype "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in there and enter your passwort15:53
kaddiwhen asked to15:53
Refraxxits working......brb15:55
RefraxxWhat I need is a spare computer to mess around with, where I dont fear screwing anythin up('cos its a spare)15:57
bazhangRefraxx, depending on how much ram you have you could use a virtual machine15:57
bazhang!vm15:57
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications15:57
Refraxx50% komplete.........15:57
kaddibazhang: dang you type quick15:58
Refraxxlol15:58
kaddiI was going to suggest the same thing in 2-3 minutes ;)15:58
bazhangkaddi, it is the caffeine :)15:58
Refraxx73%15:58
kaddibazhang: hehe15:58
RefraxxBazhang-----What is a virtual machiene?15:59
Refraxxmachine?*15:59
bazhangRefraxx, a file inside of your computer that runs an entire OS such as another linux distro, windows, or the like15:59
bazhangRefraxx, you can install virtualbox-ose and get an iso or windows installer disk and try it out16:00
Refraxxoh, wow. How can I aquire that?  Through synaptic?16:00
bazhangRefraxx, yep sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose16:00
Refraxxhow much space will it take up? u know off hand?16:01
bazhangdepends on the OS. for something small like PuppyLinux, a few hundred MB, to Windows, at several GB's (around 12 iirc)16:02
bazhangyou will need to add yourself to the vbox users group in (users and groups) and also install the guest additions16:02
Refraxxok, I'll have to see how much I have 2 play with b 4 I try it.16:03
bazhangindeed, if you only a small amount of ram, you may wish to try a very lightweight system16:03
Refraxxok, it says done.....Do I now type  "exit"?16:03
Refraxxoh, wait ....it's still unpacking stuff, guess it just took a break.16:04
bazhangand configuring no doubt16:04
Refraxxlol     Yeah, that 2.16:04
Refraxxwhen it IS done, what will it show(most likely)16:06
Refraxx?16:06
bazhangno activity at all16:06
Refraxxhey, I think its finally finished........16:06
Refraxxit has my name-desktop:`$[]     in it now....thats dun right?16:07
bazhangyep16:07
Refraxxtype exit?16:07
bazhangor install more stuff :)16:08
Refraxxhehehe I 4got why I was here in the first place....I think I'm dun installing stuff 4 the time being.16:08
bazhangto get rid of the update icon?16:10
RefraxxI think that worked--no longer c the icon....new icon appeared, the one to restart com. Pretty sure it worked, thanks guys.16:10
BluesKaj!lol | Refraxx16:10
ubottuRefraxx: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.16:10
RefraxxIf I have more issues, I'll be back in here. bye16:10
BluesKajb4 is not a word16:10
Refraxxoh, i'm sorry, I didnt know that. thanks for telling me. I will remember for next time16:11
Refraxxquestion16:12
Peace-!offtopic | Peace-16:12
ubottuPeace-, please see my private message16:12
RefraxxWhat does "IRC" stand for?16:12
bazhanginternet relay chat16:12
kaddiyou're doing that on purpose :p16:12
Refraxxok, I don't understand---how is that different than IM?16:13
bazhangmany users in the same chat channel16:13
BluesKaj!irc16:13
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines16:13
Refraxxok. Thanks guys16:13
bazhanghttp://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/  Refraxx check that16:14
RefraxxI will, thanx16:14
Captain_Hadd0ckRefraxx: wikipedia should have a lot of info as well.16:17
ownerIf i have a problem with high CPU loads when i try to open the screen settings window (that fails to open eitherway) and that i sometimes cant change my resolution for my screen. and when i can change it it stays that way untill next session. am i in the right place?16:17
RefraxxOk captain, thank you. bye guys16:18
Captain_Hadd0ckif you're using Kubuntu, probably :)16:18
ownerim not sure hadd0ck, how can i see what i'm using?16:19
ownersry but i'm new to this so i'm sry if that was a stupid question16:22
Piciowner: Do you have a menu that says: Applications, Places, System in the top right?16:22
Picier, top Left?16:22
owneryes16:22
owneryes i have16:23
Piciowner: then you are using Gnome. It probably would be best to ask your question in #ubuntu then16:23
ownerok thx pici16:24
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kaddiI would like the command firefox to start firefox-3.5, as I don't want to mess things while using sudo, could somebody please confirm, that this is the right command:ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox16:34
Ankakui think that's correct.16:38
kaddiher goes :p16:38
Ankaku:D good luck16:38
Ankaku:@ mah computer is being sloooooow16:38
* Ankaku Hates Windows16:39
kaddi*boom* everything explodes :P16:40
Ankaku:P XD16:40
AnkakuDid it work?16:40
kaddiyes :)16:41
Ankaku=D16:41
guido_ciao16:41
AnkakuI has question16:41
Ankakumah laptop has 75 gb left is that enough to run a full installation of kubuntu?16:42
melhisedekAnyone have problems with num lock not being enabled at start? (I have it enabled in BIOS)16:42
shivekyes16:42
shivekAnkaku16:42
Ankakuk16:42
jetfireрусские есть16:43
jetfire?16:43
AnkakuIs there any way to dual boot w/o partitioning?16:43
bazhangjetfire, #ubuntu-ru16:43
bazhangAnkaku, wubi16:43
bazhang!wubi > Ankaku16:43
ubottuAnkaku, please see my private message16:43
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AnkakuTY very much =D16:44
derek_hiya all wonder if you could help me ive got the kubuntu16:44
Peace-Ankaku: kubuntu needs about 6 GB ... but you can install even if you have 4GB16:44
derek_the prob i have is16:44
derek_sound probs i have sound for load up and shut down16:44
derek_but the sound dont work on anarok 2.116:45
Ankakuinstallation size?16:45
derek_nore does it work on anything else16:45
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derek_can any one help with this please16:47
derek_how do i get the sound to work16:47
shivekhi can anyone help me run python scripts in terminal16:48
Ankakur-click open with terminal16:51
Ankakui think16:51
shivekit doesn't work16:52
shiveki have ubuntu not kubuntu16:52
Ankakuoh16:52
Ankakutry the ubuntu channel then16:52
shivekplase name one16:53
Ankakui think its #ubuntu16:53
Ankakuyep16:53
shivekthank u16:53
derek_can anyone help me with sound probs please16:56
derek_anyone know any good codecs16:56
del210ahi does any one know to get the sound to work17:03
del210ait works on loadup and shutdown17:03
del210aalso on testing it works17:03
del210abut not anywhere else17:04
bazhangdel210a, have the codecs installed for mp3 and video?17:04
bazhangdel210a, this is ubuntu or Kubuntu17:04
whytyhello every one17:04
del210akubuntu17:04
del210aim not sure if the codecs have installed17:05
bazhangdel210a, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras (from konsole) also a couple of packages from medibuntu.org you may wish-->instructions on the site17:05
del210aok thanks will have a try17:06
bazhangdel210a, the packages from medibuntu can be downloaded as .deb files and installed by double clicking (w32codecs for one)17:06
del210aok thanks bazhang17:07
davidjheinrichhi all...17:29
davidjheinrichis there a format that I can save images to in Linux that will prevent them from being copied/printed?17:30
Dragnslcrdavidjheinrich- no, because someone can always just open the image and take a screenshot17:33
davidjheinrichDragnslcr: yea, that's true in any OS, I think17:37
davidjheinrichbut I mean, at least prevent easy copying17:37
davidjheinrichas in "right click, copy17:37
davidjheinrich<although I think that some things, if you try to screenshot or print out, it just shows a white box on that image>17:37
Driv3r912Anyone know how to get this Oxygen theme in Kubuntu: http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg17:47
Driv3r912It is found in openSUSE.17:47
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Driv3r912Also, here is an article about the KDE Theme, etc...: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg&imgrefurl=http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-4-rev-802150-work-in-progress/&usg=__PGX5cjdseiN0mfduTBPiAoZ9QrY=&h=569&w=800&sz=90&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=FhmFqDTDQGPmEM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3DOxygen%2BTheme%2BopenSUSE%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfire17:48
Driv3r912fox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DG%26um%3D117:48
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igor_Hi, I was wathcing film in mplayer and it suddenly disapeared, but now I have it as "disk sleep" process and can't kill it. It also happened few times before and I wonder what can cause this problem?17:53
ToreadorVampire(installing a .deb installer) KPackageKit: Waiting for service to start "37.000 days remaining" lol18:05
jimmy51_!virtualbox18:15
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox18:15
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igor_Hi, it seems that alsa causes some processes to hang ("disk sleep"), then I can't turn off my computer as "Shutting down ALSA naver ends"18:17
igor_It mainly happens with skype and mplayer18:19
igor_#ubuntu18:21
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mrunagianyone know why sudo modprobe -r iwl3945 locks up my pc?18:28
dksoba88hi18:28
dksoba88I'm trying to install Kradview 1.1.0 which must be compiled18:28
dksoba88so I run ./configure18:28
dksoba88and I get to this error "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.18:29
dksoba88I'm not sure how to tell ./configure where those libraries are or even if I have them installed18:29
toniicheckout the file then18:30
dksoba88the configure file?18:31
BluesKajdksoba88, sometimes the readme will explain the different steps , but normally you have to cd into the app/dir to ./compile , make , make install18:31
dksoba88where are my KDE libraries installed by default?18:31
dksoba88BluesKaj: yea checked the README but no particular instructions on the KDE libraries, the ./configure make make install steps are there though18:32
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BluesKaj!kdelibs18:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdelibs18:36
Guest47297wow I don't remember anything about irc at all18:37
dksoba88!kde-libs18:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-libs18:40
BluesKaj!info kdelibs18:41
ubottukdelibs (source: kdelibs): core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1ubuntu8 (jaunty), package size 2 kB, installed size 80 kB18:41
dksoba88BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install kdelibs says they're already installed18:43
dksoba88BluesKaj: so I think I should run ./configure --prefix=/usr/libs/kde4 but this still doesn't work18:43
BluesKajoh yeah, they would be18:43
BluesKajgotta have the kdelibs to run kubuntu18:44
dksoba88BluesKaj: got it, how do I tell my configure script where the kdelibs are18:45
dksoba88BluesKaj: well first of all, I suppose I'm assuming that the kdelibs directory is /usr/libs/kde418:46
dksoba88BluesKaj: which may be wrong18:46
imon__is there any package for ubuntu18:47
BluesKajdksoba88, the kdelibs are spread out over several dirs , not just /usr18:47
imon__like backtrack tools18:47
dksoba88BluesKaj: I see18:47
BluesKajdksoba88, do a locate kdelibs in the terminal , you'l see what i mean18:50
dksoba88BluesKaj: err well I've got to go to class now so I'll have to continue figuring this out later but thanks for all your help so far18:51
BluesKajnp18:52
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Emeryhow do i install themes on KDE ?19:03
Emerywell kubuntu19:03
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Emeryhow do i install themes on KDE ?19:23
Emerywell kubuntu19:23
treetopji cant get my wireless working on ubuntu is anyone willing to help19:23
BluesKajtreetopj, join #ubuntu, kubuntu desktop uses a different wifi manager19:29
BluesKajEmery, right click on the desktop choose desktop settings19:29
Emeryconfigure desktop ?19:30
BluesKajEmery, which version of kubuntu are you using ?19:32
Emerykde319:32
Emeryi got rid of 419:32
Emeryand installing kde 319:32
Emeryinstalled*19:32
BluesKajwell, it's in system settings / appearance19:34
Emerythat's the thing19:34
Emeryi'm in there and cant see anywhere to change the theme19:34
BluesKajyou may need to DL new ones19:36
Emerynew ones ?19:36
BluesKaj!themes19:36
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:36
Emeryi hav themes downloaded19:36
Emerybut i can find where to install them and activate them19:36
Emeryi'm in appearance and i can't find anywhere that lets me install19:37
vitorhow do I join other channels?19:37
Emery./join #chan19:37
Emerywithout dot19:37
vitorthank you very much19:37
Emerynp19:37
DarkStarsomebody?19:45
Pici!ask19:45
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:45
DarkStarthere's no koffice for kde4?19:46
SSJ_GZDarkStar: http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/28/koffice-200-released19:48
DarkStarty ^^19:48
SSJ_GZnp19:49
Captain_Hadd0ckEmery: if you downloaded manually, follow the instructions at the source19:54
Captain_Hadd0ckelse use the theme downloader in KDE to download and automatically install19:55
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voiphi20:05
bastienhey20:06
bastienil y a des francais20:06
BluesKaj!fr | bastien20:06
ubottubastien: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr20:06
cga(clo20:10
vincent_slt20:12
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Jallerslt20:13
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Jallerouou il y a quelqu'un20:14
Jaller!!!!!!!20:15
Pici!fr20:15
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr20:15
CleanLaundryI know that Kubuntu is much more visually rich then Ubuntu, and seems to run a bit slower then Ubuntu because of that reason. But is there a way to make it any faster?20:46
DaskreeCHCleanLaundry: Yes20:49
keylockersomeone here develops to kde using python? (And know how can i use knotify from py?)20:51
Ramblurris the firefox-3.5 package supposed to pull in gnome packages?20:53
Ramblurrand is there a way to prevent it20:53
Ramblurrit wants a bunch of gnome-perl packages as well as synaptic, gnome-app-install, etc20:54
ubuntuhola20:58
ubuntuhola20:58
CleanLaundryDaskreeCH, how?20:58
ubuntuhello20:58
racecar56i have to use "sudo dhclient" *every* time i want to connect to the network, what is wrong? shouldn't i have kde konnect (hahaha) automatic?20:59
racecar56aha knetworkmanager wasnt installed20:59
racecar56*doink*20:59
DaskreeCHCleanLaundry: KDE4 is a full rewrite of KDE ideas in Qt4 which is completely new. As Qt4 gets tuned and KDE4 starts to optimize it will get leaner and faster21:00
racecar56i like KDE4 already21:00
racecar56it's good enough and i was a KDE3 fan21:00
racecar56i used KDE 3.3 on my first linux ever used, xandros desktop 321:01
DaskreeCHRamblurr: --no-reccomends ?21:01
CleanLaundryDaskreeCH, I see21:01
pedroKDE very cool!21:01
DaskreeCHCleanLaundry: You can also look at KDE servces you are not using currently like akonadi or Nepomuk and turn them off21:01
racecar56and now im a linux fan :D21:01
racecar56me so happy i find linux, it works so great21:02
pedrolinux fan!!! ha ha21:02
CleanLaundryDaskreeCH, how do I do that, and how do I know which services will be ok to cut without hurting the system21:02
racecar56it runs on my comp very nicely21:02
racecar56and i got one of them quad cores >:D21:02
pedrowith atom asus eee pc 1000h is great21:03
racecar56anyone here got one of them AMD 6-cores?21:03
DaskreeCHCleanLaundry: Well outside of kded, qdbus or  kinit You can turn off all of them :) Just you will lose the associated functionality :)21:03
DaskreeCHCleanLaundry: Also if you are low on RAM you can probably turn off compositing.21:04
pedrogood luck21:05
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CleanLaundryDaskreeCH, ok great thanks21:05
davide_naaaaa21:05
pedroorion21:07
pedro /(:)//"""""""""""=//est;/(command):closeprogram/"""""""»»"\\\end:21:09
calamarihi21:09
pedrohi21:10
calamarifor some reason image thumbnails aren't being displayed in konqueror.  I am wondering if I am missing a package, or if my settings are just wrong?21:12
DaskreeCHcalamari: In what context?21:13
calamariDaskreeCH, folder view of files21:13
calamari(not a web page)21:14
DarkStarcya guys, ty 4 all =]21:14
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iskaldsup guys ?21:19
iskaldno ?21:21
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DaskreeCH!hi | iskald21:26
ubottuiskald: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:26
cF`Zuz|Workamazing os21:32
iskaldI know21:32
krittika@bookz21:32
cF`Zuz|Worki was just wondering if the ubuntu software is also compatible with kubuntu21:32
dabbleranybody got Ubuntuone functioning under Kubuntu - KDE 4.2.421:32
DaskreeCHcF`Zuz|Work: It is21:33
dabblerIOW will it install?21:33
cF`Zuz|Worksweet21:33
krittika!bookz21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bookz21:33
DaskreeCHkrittika: What are you looking for?21:34
krittikai got what i was looking for thanks21:34
cF`Zuz|Workive always wantd to really install the os but never had a spare pc or a space partition till my cousin decided to throw her 2 year old laptop because her HD died...21:34
cF`Zuz|Workalways played around with the cd21:35
DaskreeCHcF`Zuz|Work: Well welcome :)21:35
cF`Zuz|Worknow im trying to figure out how to find the software and how to upgrade the hardware21:35
cF`Zuz|Worki know21:35
cF`Zuz|Workthe devs are amazing21:35
cF`Zuz|Workshould i worry about viruses?21:36
DaskreeCH!virus | cF`Zuz|Work21:37
ubottucF`Zuz|Work: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2121:37
cF`Zuz|Workthanks again daskreeCH21:38
cF`Zuz|Workare you in the dev team?21:39
DaskreeCHNot officially21:39
Daemonason y kubuntu would not install on a dell optiplexgx260 petium 4 with 512 mb ram21:43
DaskreeCHWould be hard to say without an explantion as to how it does not install21:44
DaemonDaskreeCH: it starts to load and then hangs up about a 1/4 of the way through21:45
DaskreeCHDaemon: As in the CD booting up?21:46
orion_help -> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme) ?21:46
DaemonDaskreeCH: yes21:46
Zorael^2How do I login as another user in Konsole?21:46
toniideffectic CD/DVD or broken cd/dvd-rom drive.21:47
toniiZorael: "su user"21:47
Zorael^2tonii: Thanks21:47
DaemonDaskreeCH: well it boots to the main screen then when I choose an option to boot it starts then hangs up21:47
DaemonDaskreeCH: the progress bar just stops21:48
DaskreeCHDaemon: Did you try the safe graphics mode ?21:49
DaemonDaskreeCH: sure would hate to have to put xp back on itewwwwww21:49
DaskreeCHorion_: Hmm ?21:50
DaemonDaskreeCH: no i didnt ill go try now brb21:50
DaskreeCHI'm always really impressed that people who can't get the CD working find this channel :)21:50
orion_DaskreeCH, 0_021:50
DaskreeCHorion_: Some context for that message please21:51
racecar56haha i forgot i was still here21:55
racecar56got to go21:55
Zuz|Kubuntuok logged on21:56
Zuz|Kubuntuis there some program that checks hardware for updates?21:57
DaemonDaskreeCH: weird it still hangs in safe mode too21:57
DaskreeCHZuz|Kubuntu: It's kinda hard to upgrade your hardware over the net :)21:58
DaskreeCHDaemon: Umm lets try a quick check. When it boots up at the first menu press F6 and remove the word quiet then press enter. It should boot and tell you a whole lotta stuff. See what's the last thing before it dies21:59
DaemonDaskreeCH: ok brb22:00
cF`Zuz|Workdaskreech so no program that checks for it?22:01
cF`Zuz|Worki looked at the device manager software and showed a few unknown devices22:01
cF`Zuz|Worki wanted to update the drivers because i might connect the laptop to the tv(if i find a way)22:02
DaskreeCHcF`Zuz|Work: Try Kmenu -> system -> hardware drivers22:02
[Relic[how does one mounta disk in the live-cd 7.04 version  (all I had handy to try to recover info from a computer)22:02
DaskreeCH[Relic[: mount /dev/device /path/to/directory22:03
noaXess!kdewebdev22:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdewebdev22:03
noaXess!info kdewebdev22:03
ubottukdewebdev (source: kdewebdev): web development apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB22:03
[Relic[thanks22:03
noaXessdoes anybody know about quanta plus for kde 4.x?22:04
DaemonDaskreeCH: do not see the word quit anywere wheni press f622:05
DaskreeCHDaemon: Quiet22:05
DaskreeCHquiet splash --22:06
DaskreeCHtake out quiet22:06
DaemonDaskreeCH: sry spelling22:07
DaemonDaskreeCH: were should i see quiet at when i press f6 it says naopic22:07
DaskreeCHDaemon: Ummm ok lets choose noapic for kicks :)22:08
DaskreeCHThat's a common reason the CD won't boot might as well try it22:08
Zuz|Kubuntui did the system -> hardware drivers thing, just the wireless showed up, but i wanted to know if there was something to check for the video, sound etc...22:12
Zuz|Kubuntui can find it22:12
Zuz|Kubuntui guess im just excited22:12
DaskreeCHZuz|Kubuntu:  :-) That's part of the normal updates. It will update that with the rest of your software in one go22:14
Zuz|Kubuntugreat22:14
Zuz|Kubuntunow in terms of preferences, do you use kpackagekit or adept for  updates?22:15
DaskreeCHapt-get but I'd say use kpackagekit22:16
Zuz|Kubuntuyeah i tried to find where i type the apt-get stuff but i gave up for a bit22:16
DaskreeCHIt's less umm adept than Adept but has more of a future so if you want to beat on it and voice what doesn't work for you it will get fixed22:16
DaskreeCHZuz|Kubuntu: Konsole is a good bet22:17
akSeyahi there...22:18
Zuz|Kubuntuthis laptop seems faster22:18
Zuz|Kubuntuthen when it had windows22:18
Zuz|Kubuntuhello22:19
akSeyaguys.. i have kppp configured properly, every time I open it, it asks my user password...22:19
DaskreeCHZuz|Kubuntu: quite possible Widows gets bogged down very easily22:19
akSeyais there a way to bypass this?22:19
DaskreeCHakSeya: mebbe22:19
DaskreeCHI'm assuming it's using kdesudo which means if you set up a nopasswd in sudo it won't You can pretty easily google that22:20
Zuz|Kubuntui heard that amarok  is the best player out there, i cant wait to try it22:20
akSeyahum.. thanks for the top DaskreeCH22:21
DaemonDaskreeCH: ok deleted quiet and it ran script now how do i know what that script means22:21
DaskreeCHDaemon: It's the same script as before it's just telling what it does now. If it stopped what did it stop at ?22:22
DaemonDaskreeCH: segfault error 4 in init22:24
DaskreeCHDaemon: !!22:25
DaskreeCHDaemon: oook well then choose CD check on the main menu I think something has corrupted the CD22:25
DaskreeCHIf that passes then someone will have to take a deeper look. I'll probably be gone by then22:25
senorpedrois there a good music player that has last.fm integration and is not amarok?22:26
DaskreeCHSongbird?22:28
senorpedrono thats crap too22:29
senorpedroi need something in qt22:29
Captain_Haddocksenorpedro: I'm pretty sure vlc has a last.fm option.22:29
Captain_Haddockand it's in qt22:29
senorpedrosure? i always thought it is gtk22:29
Captain_Haddocksenorpedro: it was, yes22:30
drvoodoothat's right, vlc uses QT now22:30
senorpedrothey ported to qt?22:30
senorpedrohm it looks different than the other kde apps....is this the statically linked stuff (like e.g. opera) ?22:31
DaskreeCHsenorpedro: Yep the whole thing22:33
DaskreeCHI would guess it's static VLC seems to prefer that overall22:33
senorpedroso why did they statically link it?22:35
senorpedroit doesnt fit into my desktop's look n feel22:36
senorpedroomg vlc takes 67mb of ram.......why so much?22:36
Captain_Haddockit's skinnable22:39
ign0ramusVLC is qt in both Windows and in Linux (not sure about OS X)22:39
Captain_HaddockThere might be a compile flag to avoid the static linking; not sure.22:39
Zuz|Kubuntudoes the kde wallet comes with kubuntu or did i install it?22:43
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, it is a part of a Kubuntu install, but you can configure it in System Settings22:45
Captain_Haddockit's a bloody pita :S22:45
Zuz|Kubuntushould i have it on?22:46
Zuz|Kubuntuignoramus22:46
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, that's up to you22:46
Captain_Haddockif you're not annoyed by its prompts, yes.22:46
ign0ramus!kwallet | Zuz|Kubuntu22:46
ubottuZuz|Kubuntu: kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet22:46
Zuz|Kubuntui was just looking at it near the sound and what it looks like open programs near the clock and i saw the wallet22:46
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, i believe default behavior is for the wallet to close after 5 minutes of inactivity, but i might be wrong (I personally disable it)22:48
Zuz|Kubuntuthanks, i just did too22:49
Zuz|Kubuntui got my pw's memorized22:49
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, alternatively, you can just set it not to show up in System Tray if that's what's bothering you :)22:49
custom_hi all...what version of kde does karmic use?22:50
Zuz|Kubuntuthanks22:50
Zuz|Kubuntuany big advantages on having different desktops?22:52
ign0ramuscustom_, don't know (not supported in this channel), but I would imagine 4.3RC 122:52
custom_ok - thanks22:52
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, if you work with many apps open or have a smaller display (like a netbook), they can help you stay organized22:52
Zuz|Kubuntudo they help in terms of memory management?22:53
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, no.22:53
Zuz|Kubuntui remember seeing them when i did some software testing with redhat but that was a loooong time ago22:53
ign0ramusZuz|Kubuntu, with dual monitor setups being all the rage, it's a good way to multitask (I guess... another feature I don't really use) :)22:54
Zuz|Kubuntu:)22:54
strife25hi i recently applied some updates and none of my tasks are showing up on the task bar. has anyone else run into this problem?23:07
DaskreeCHstrife25: tried logging out and pressing alt+e then logging back in?23:08
kde-develIs it possible to install karmic release trhough internet, via jaunty?23:08
strife25ok, will try that23:09
strife25my other question is that i am unable to have my videos go fullscreen in KDE. if i make dragon player go full screen, the last frame displays at the size it originally was and the rest of the screen is black23:10
strife25this problem oddly fixes itself when this error appears out of no where saying something along the lines of "KDE is unable to do compositing right now, please restart...", the main detail there being KDE + compositing23:11
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JuJuBeeIm running kde 4.3 rc1 and my task manager is not showing running apps. I encounterd this last week and forget what I did to fix.23:28
KrispyKremewhat's a good app to clear all cookies/web browsing/etc on kubuntu?23:33
KrispyKremeone more question. I am currently dual booting windows xp pro and kubuntu 9.04. when I load windows xp and delete something on that partition, it never gets deleted when I reboot and boot that partition up again. What is an explanation for that?23:36
seeveeinstall flash for firefox?23:48
seeveeCan I use apt-get instead of adept manager?23:51
seeveeAdept manager keeps crashing.23:52
seeveesudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --- gives "download done. Flash Plugin installed." Flash sites still tell me to download the latest flash plugin.23:59
seeveeHelp?23:59

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