[00:00] <ign0ramus> frenchy, the folder preview? I also have that, but deleting the link still does not delete the original folder
[00:01] <frenchy> hmmmm, how do i check kde version (kicker --version) do not work
[00:01] <ign0ramus> frenchy, from prompt in ~ I did "mkdir fake" .  Then on Folder View on desktop i did create new > link to location. pointed it to ~/fake/.  Shift-deleted it.  ~/fake/ remains.
[00:01] <ign0ramus> frenchy, if you're using kde4, kicker has been replaced by panels
[00:02] <frenchy> ign0ramus: yeah the folder stays but put files in the folder they should vanish
[00:02] <ign0ramus> frenchy, ahh... that i didn't try. let me populate my fake directory and try again
[00:03]  * frenchy bhouuuhouuuhouuuu jeremy lost a huge amount of data and can't recover it !!!
[00:04] <ign0ramus> frenchy, i just copied about 15 jpg's into ~/fake/. Recreated link to that location on Folder View.  Shift-deleted it.  ~/fake/ remains, as well as the jpg's inside.
[00:04] <ign0ramus> frenchy, would you care to replicate?
[00:06] <frenchy> yes just replicate right now, the only difference is that i use dolphin to create the link
[00:06] <frenchy> i don't belive it should make a huge diffrence
[00:06] <ign0ramus> frenchy, that i did not do... i'm just right-clicking on the Folder View and doing Create New > Link to Location
[00:06] <ign0ramus> frenchy, i'll try your way
[00:07] <ign0ramus> frenchy, are you deleting the link inside dolphin, or in the Folder View widget?
[00:08] <frenchy> on the folder view widget
[00:08] <ign0ramus> frenchy, all original files and folder remain. i cannot replicate your 'bug'
[00:10] <ign0ramus> frenchy, again, what version of kde are you using?
[00:11] <frenchy> hmmm, here i can replicate every time, i am using kde 4.2.95
[00:11] <fiasco_> hi every body
[00:11] <ign0ramus> frenchy, same version
[00:11] <ign0ramus> fiasco_, hi Dr. fiasco_!
[00:11] <fiasco_> thank u
[00:12] <frenchy> i am using jaunty main rep for update
[00:13] <frenchy> damn i should have never done that, how can i roll back to the previous stable version ?
[00:14] <frenchy> ign0ramus: where are kde logs? i might be able to track the problem
[00:14] <ign0ramus> frenchy, try www.kde.org
[00:20] <frenchy> ign0ramus: when you delete the link on the widget does it create an error ???
[00:20] <ign0ramus> frenchy, no. no errors.
[00:20] <frenchy> like couldn't delete the folder fake
[00:21] <frenchy> i really wonder why it happens to me here
[00:21] <ign0ramus> frenchy, have you updated && upgraded lately? I know there were some bugfixes for 4.2.95 just recently released (last couple of days)...
[00:22] <ign0ramus> frenchy, for example, many people experienced Task Manager not showing any open programs.  That was fixed in a matter of hours, though
[00:26] <frenchy> ign0ramus: i only got libtiff4 to upgrade
[00:26] <ubuntu__> Moin
[00:27] <ign0ramus> frenchy, not going to fix the issues you are experiencing :(
[00:27] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you there?
[00:28] <BluesKaj> yup
[00:28] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, :)
[00:28] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, hey, you also have kde 4.3RC 1, right?
[00:28] <BluesKaj> hey ign0ramus :) yes F
[00:28] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, would you mind performing a small experiment?
[00:28] <BluesKaj> plasma crashes
[00:29] <frenchy> ign0ramus: yeah i had a feeling :( could you do me a favour, can you try to recreate that bug only by using Dolphin ??
[00:29] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, no one has to even 'try' to do that :P
[00:29] <BluesKaj> ok, waht's the xprmnt ?
[00:29] <frenchy> can you create fake in your home then a sub folder in fake and multiple other files in both of those dirs
[00:30] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, first, create a folder in your home directory.  please add a sub-directory or two, and copy some small files into it
[00:30] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, *using Dolphin*
[00:30] <frenchy> then drag and drop fake in the desktop widget and select create a link
[00:30] <ign0ramus> frenchy, oh, you are dragging and dropping?
[00:30] <frenchy> yup
[00:31] <ign0ramus> frenchy, i have not done that. let me check. (i've been right-clicking > Create New Link to Location)
[00:31] <frenchy> lol sorry ign0ramus i am a regular user for me it is quite evident
[00:32] <ign0ramus> frenchy, nope. still files remain for me... :/
[00:32] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, have you done that?
[00:32] <frenchy> ign0ramus: damn it i am really the only one cursed ?
[00:32] <BluesKaj> yup, done
[00:33] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ok, now in dolphin, can you please drag and drop that folder to Folder View on desktop?  At the prompt, select "Create Link" (or whatever the phrase is)
[00:33] <murry> sorry if this is stupid but I am going crazy.  How do i find out what kind of graphics card is installed in this computer?
[00:33] <ign0ramus> murry, lspci or sudo lshw
[00:34] <murry> come again?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> murry, run either of those commands in a terminal
[00:34] <murry> ah thnx
[00:35] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, we there?
[00:35] <BluesKaj> folder view should include the fake folder and it does..when i try to drag n drop : "newer name called fake already exists "
[00:36] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, oh... then 'mv' your fake folder to a different directory (either home or Desktop would be easy)
[00:36] <BluesKaj> I like folder view , anything created in /home shows up
[00:37] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i do too, but frenchy is having an issue with it... i do not have this bug.  you are the tie-breaker ;)
[00:37] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ok, so "mv fake ~/Desktop"
[00:38] <BluesKaj> it shows up in the /home/desktop too ...I don't have a /desktop
[00:38] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you do not have ~/Desktop? (case-sensitive)
[00:38] <BluesKaj> yes ~/desktop , it's there
[00:39] <BluesKaj> err ~/Desktop
[00:39] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, if you put your 'fake' folder into ~/Desktop, can you drag and drop (in dolphin) to Folder View?
[00:40] <frenchy> ign0ramus: kio_thumbnail[12489]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f47a715b4ef sp 00007fffb2a54570 error 4 in libgcc_s.so.1[7f47a714b000+16000]
[00:40] <frenchy> i think it is the reason
[00:42] <ign0ramus> frenchy, does the directory ~/.thumbnails exist?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> why bother ~/Desktop is the folder view ...not allowed, i can drag it out of ~/Desktop however and the fake folder shows up in folderview
[00:42] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, yeah, that's what we want
[00:42] <frenchy> ign0ramus: yes
[00:43] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, see, when frenchy creates a link in Folder View and deletes it (shift+delete), it is apparently deleting the original directory (or at least its contents), not just removing the shorcut link.
[00:43] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, does that make sense to you? (sorry i am tired right now)
[00:44] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i do not have that issue, but as we dig more, he is experiencing some errors that may lead to the issue
[00:45] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, so now if you shift-delete your newly-made shortcut, does it delete you original 'fake' directory, or any of the files inside it?
[00:46] <BluesKaj> yup, they're all gone
[00:47] <frenchy> whooooooohooooooooo, i am not just unluky :p
[00:47] <BluesKaj> i don't use KB commands much ,
[00:47] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, wow. i did the exact steps, but all files remain for me :/
[00:48] <BluesKaj> but it looks like I'll not be using that one soon
[00:48] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, well, at least you found out the easy way! :) When's the last time you could honestly say that? :P
[00:48] <BluesKaj> hehe
[00:49] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, frenchy, i would consider that a major bug. that is definitely *not* expected behavior, and obviously dangerous
[00:49]  * frenchy bouhouhouuuuuu I found it the hard way ;(
[00:49] <BluesKaj> never heard of shift+delete to break a link
[00:50] <frenchy> ign0ramus: lol dangerous, yes extremely ... i almost smashed my computer on the ground !
[00:50] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, it's more of a "force-delete" that bypasses the trash can
[00:50] <ign0ramus> frenchy, lol :P
[00:51] <BluesKaj> I don't like using the delete key unless I'm actually "deleting a file" if you know what I mean :)
[00:51] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, if you right-click a file in Dolphin, it gives the option of "Delete" and gives the shortcut (Shift+Delete)
[00:52] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i'm with you, but i have that bad habit sometimes, because i don't keep the trash on the Desktop or on the panel ... :(
[00:53] <frenchy> lol i have that habit because i am lazy and drag drop is more effort than shif+del
[00:53] <BluesKaj> yes , I know i deleted a movie yeatrday by mistake after combining 2 videos , cuz I used the delete option after highlighting all 3 when I hjust wanted to dump the 2 originals
[00:53] <BluesKaj> oops :P
[00:53] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, d'oh!
[00:54] <BluesKaj> no loss wifey din't want to watch it anyway
[00:54] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, hehe
[00:57] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, in our 'experiment', did deleting the link delete the entire directory, or just the files inside it?
[00:57] <BluesKaj> the whole folder
[00:58] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, hmm... and you definitely created a link, and didn't move the folder, correct?
[00:58] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, (sorry for the dumb questions)
[01:01] <BluesKaj> ok , let's try again ..you me to create link to the folder veiw from the dolphin fake folder ..right ?
[01:01] <BluesKaj> want
[01:01] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, yes.
[01:01] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, create fake folder, create link on Folder View
[01:02] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ctrl+shift will also create link
[01:03] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, the new icon will have a little arrow on it, signifying that it is a link or shortcut
[01:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, created a link in ~/Desktop
[01:04] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, and again, simply deleting the link will delete the entire original folder, and not just the link we made?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> now you want to delete the link in ~/Desktop using the delete option or the KB commands?
[01:05] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, highlight the link, and press shift+delete
[01:06] <BluesKaj> ok, the fake folder and subfolder are still in Dolphin , after deleting the link
[01:07] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ok, that's the behavior i get... i'm wondering what's going wrong on frenchy's install :/
[01:07] <BluesKaj> sry , i misunderstood the first time
[01:07] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, np... that's why i double-checked ;)
[01:08] <BluesKaj> right :)
[01:08] <frenchy> hmmm :( so i am cursed
[01:08] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, that's why i don't like gui... running commands and posting output is so much easier :)
[01:08] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, at least when troubleshooting remotely :)
[01:09] <BluesKaj> well, I'm an old windows guy and old habits die hard
[01:09] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i still have those 'nasty' habits sometimes too ;)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> never was much good on a KB , practically failed typing class in 9th grade
[01:10] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, was it on a typewriter? :P
[01:10] <BluesKaj> yes
[01:10] <BluesKaj> i'm old
[01:11] <ign0ramus> haha! :) You know i'm just messing w/ ya :)
[01:13] <BluesKaj> have to give my eyes a rest ...BBL
[01:13] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ok, i'm leaving soon too
[01:13] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, have a great night! :)
[01:15] <frenchy> ign0ramus: just a small thing befor you go to sleep
[01:15] <ign0ramus> frenchy, what's that?
[01:15] <frenchy> how can i roll back to kde stable ?
[01:15] <ign0ramus> frenchy, did you add a PPA to get your version of kde?
[01:16] <ign0ramus> frenchy, (and i'm going out for drinks, no sleep for me!!!)
[01:16] <frenchy> ign0ramus: yes jaunty main, i think
[01:16] <neversfelde> frenchy: do a fresh install, there is no way to do a proper downgrade
[01:17] <neversfelde> and do not use ppas in production environments
[01:17] <frenchy> ign0ramus: hmmmm i had a feeling, anyway thx, enjoy your night out :)
[01:17] <ign0ramus> frenchy, thanks. hopefully a bugfix rolls through for you soon :)
[01:18] <frenchy> ign0ramus: thanks mate, i am off to sleep, good night to all of u :D
[01:18] <ign0ramus> frenchy, goodnight!
[01:29] <gnuboy> how to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 fresh install?
[01:31] <neversfelde> gnuboy: you cannot upgrade from 9.10 to 9.04?
[01:31] <neversfelde> 9.10 is newer than 9.04
[01:31] <gnuboy> yes i know
[01:31] <neversfelde> ah sorry, missed it
[01:32] <neversfelde> why do you want to upgrade to a dev version
[01:32] <gnuboy> no special reason
[01:32] <neversfelde> and if you want sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[01:34] <gnuboy> it works! :] thank you
[01:35] <neversfelde> gnuboy: don't do it :)
[01:36] <gnuboy> why?
[01:36] <neversfelde> it is a dev relase under heavy development
[01:37] <gnuboy> is it so unstable, that i can't even launch web browser?
[01:38] <neversfelde> sometimes, it will probably kill your X during the upgrade
[01:38] <bazhang> gnuboy, discussion of karmic in #ubuntu+1 (read the /topic there)
[01:39] <neversfelde> and 2.6.31 seems not to start with nvidia cards
[01:39] <gnuboy> bazhang: ok ok
[01:41] <gnuboy> i read about that and they say it will kill x for sure
[01:42] <gnuboy> i'm just testing it on my eee
[01:42] <neversfelde> everyone does an release upgrade on tty1, but better => ubuntu+1^^
[01:43] <gnuboy> anyway thanks for that command
[01:50] <dubious> #countert-strike.is
[01:50] <Adola> When does KDE 4.3 come out?
[01:50] <Adola> I want the new plasma addons....
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> RC1 was released last week, final release is scheduled for the end of July
[01:52] <Adola> Dragnslcr: How difficult is it to upgrade?
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> To the RC? Basically just add the PPA for it and do a regular upgrade
[01:53] <Adola> Dragnslcr: You recommend the RC?
[01:54] <Dragnslcr> Working well for me so far. Haven't noticed any major improvements, but I haven't seen any critical bugs either
[01:54] <compilerwriter> hell neversfelde I am having trouble with my nvidia card in 9.04
[01:55] <Adola> compilerwriter: Can you enable proprietary drivers/
[01:55] <Adola> Or is your card not supported anymore?
[01:56] <compilerwriter> adola I am in the middle of trying to do just that through some godaweful manipulations.
[01:56] <compilerwriter> Just doing from the settings hardware thing did not work.
[01:56] <compilerwriter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/211316/
[01:57] <Adola> compilerwriter: Did you just upgrade?  Because, 9.04 dropped support for older cards, I had to get a new card to keep up.
[01:57] <compilerwriter> this is what a forum at nvidia has suggested adola
[01:57] <compilerwriter> I just upgraded yes.
[01:58] <neversfelde> compilerwriter: you should really not do this manually, install nvidia-gly-180, if your card is supported
[01:58] <neversfelde> s/nvidia-gly-180/nvidia-glx-180
[01:58] <compilerwriter> I have a GeForce MX420  sadly it is in AGP port so what to upgrade too?
[01:58] <Adola> compilerwriter: You can attempt to use opensource drivers
[01:59] <Adola> compilerwriter: Google : nVidia opensource drivers
[01:59] <Adola> It WILL be substantially slower, or at least, always has been for me.
[01:59] <Adola> Otherwise, your going to have to stay in 8.10
[01:59] <neversfelde> yes, seems to be an old card?
[02:01] <compilerwriter> Machine was built at the end of 2002.
[02:01] <compilerwriter> For how much longer will 8.10 be supported?
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> April 2010, I think
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> I think normal releases are 18 months
[02:02] <neversfelde> yes, we support it 18 months
[02:03] <compilerwriter> Well at least I can be secure for a while if I resort to that until I can buy a new box.  It seems this one is becoming really dated.
[02:04] <compilerwriter> I installed ubuntu on this one when the folks at Redmond WA pissed me off with Vista.
[02:04] <Adola> compilerwriter: Again, you can _ATTEMPT_ opensource drivers, they may keep you USING your machine, but, it won't be pretty.
[02:04] <Adola> ...Litterally.
[02:05] <compilerwriter> perhaps I should try them with xoffice or busybox?
[02:05] <compilerwriter> I am looking into Nouveau now.
[02:05] <Adola> I don't know what opensource drivers support Nvidia, I'm an ATi man myself :)
[02:06] <neversfelde> I have an elder Geforce 6200 here, works very good and shouldn't be too expensive
[02:06]  * Adola has a 6500
[02:07] <neversfelde> I have two displays, effects on and it works on karmic
[02:07] <Adola> I've heard good things about Karmic and intel video.
[02:08] <Adola> I've got a netbook with an intel on it!
[02:08] <Adola> I'm excited about a stable karmic to come out.
[02:08] <neversfelde> well, could not be worse
[02:08] <Adola> Speaking of netbooks, is there a KDE version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[02:08] <Adola> Gnome isn't pretty, I want KDE.
[02:08] <neversfelde> try the live cd, I think alpha 3 knocks on the door
[02:08] <Adola> BUT, I do like what Gnome did with the whole.
[02:09] <Adola> Live cd?
[02:09] <Adola> Netbook has no CD drive.
[02:09] <neversfelde> yo, live usb stick
[02:09] <Adola> Alpha 3?
[02:09] <Adola> As in 4.3?
[02:10] <neversfelde> Ubuntu Alpha 3 with KDE 4.3 RC
[02:10] <Adola> Ubuntu Alpha 3?  WTF?!
[02:10] <Adola> Got a link?  I've never herad of Ubuntu Alpha 3.
[02:10] <neversfelde> if you do not know how to create a live usb stick try usb-creator-kde from rgreenings ppa
[02:10] <neversfelde> https://edge.launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive/ppa
[02:10] <compilerwriter> are they AGP port cards neversfelde
[02:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[02:11] <neversfelde> Adola: Alpha2 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/karmic-alpha-2
[02:11] <neversfelde> bazhang: hum, sorry
[02:11] <Adola> Wait, alpha 3?  or alpha 2?
[02:12] <compilerwriter> Adolaif they are AGP cards I could upgrade to them then?
[02:12] <neversfelde> Adola: Alpha 3 is near, but we should really talk in the other channel
[02:12] <Adola> compilerwriter: What?  What do you mean "if they are AGP cards I could upgrade to them then?"
[02:12] <compilerwriter> Well thanks for the chat Adola and neversfelde time to eat some chow.
[02:14] <Zorael> Is it just me or is a Walk Through Windows (All Desktops) keybind missing? I can only alt-tab through items on the current one.
[02:34] <ubuntu> Good evening everyone.  I cannot boot into WIndows or Linux.  I get error 14.  Can anyone assist, please.
[02:35] <ubuntu> I had gOS installed and it did an update and all I got for boot was a memory checker.  I tried installing Kubuntu in the same place to overide gOS and now I get error 14.
[02:35] <ubuntu> I booted with a Live XP and my WIndows Home is still there.
[02:48] <ubuntu> Is it possible to fix error 14?
[02:59] <murry> ATI Radeon series or NVIDIA Graphics cards? which is better?
[03:00] <Adola> murry: ATi has better hardware, Nvidia has better driver support.
[03:02] <murry> what do you mean better hardware?  longer lasting?
[03:03] <UnluckyMike> i have an old ATI card still kicking i use when my nvidia cards die
[03:03] <murry> is the driver support sufficient for your ati?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_,  at boot up ?
[03:04] <Adola> ^5 UnluckyMike!
[03:04] <Adola> murry: Yeah, and IMO you can get stronger stuff for less
[03:05] <PackardBell> Yes at boot up
[03:05] <Adola> murry: ATi Driver suppport is lacking...Like, my old x300 was dropped from proprietary on the upgrade to 9.04
[03:05] <Adola> I've got an nvidia 6500 now, it's supported.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> did you just install kubuntu or windows , PackardBell ?
[03:06] <murry> hmm well thanx, i'll be thinking
[03:07] <PackardBell> I installed XP, then went to check out gOS.  gOS did an upgrade and at next boot it only had 2 items.  Memory x86 tester and XP Home.  I downloaded Kubuntu 8 KDE3, installed and rebooted and got error 14.
[03:07] <BluesKaj> PackardBell, because it's prolly a grub error
[03:07] <BluesKaj> !grub
[03:07] <PackardBell> Any way to fix it without re-installing XP and Kubuntu?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> PackardBell, yeah check the urls above
[03:09] <PackardBell> Thank you
[03:12] <PackardBell> I get a strange error and a bunch of stuff when I ran fdisk
[03:12] <PackardBell> This doesn't look like a partition table
[03:12] <PackardBell> Probably you selected the wrong device.
[03:12] <BluesKaj> PackardBell, this will be more specific to your problem http://linux-tipps.blogspot.com/2009/02/grub-error-codes.html
[03:13] <PackardBell> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[03:13] <PackardBell> Says error code but not how to fix it and I know nothing on linux.
[03:15] <PackardBell> I will continue working on that repair site and see what happens
[03:20] <namelezz> hii
[03:22] <BluesKaj> hi namelezz
[03:23] <namelezz> yeah
[03:23] <namelezz> am here
[03:23] <namelezz> how are you doing??
[03:23] <BluesKaj> ok, do you have a question ?
[03:23] <namelezz> yeah
[03:24] <namelezz> how do you use this konversation thing??
[03:24] <BluesKaj> well it seems you are using it ok so far , namelezz
[03:25] <namelezz> no i just updated my ubuntu
[03:25] <asobi> any limitations on recognizing hard drive sizes?
[03:25] <namelezz> and was given this window
[03:25] <namelezz> and so i said hi
[03:25] <namelezz> ok
[03:26] <namelezz> i want to install a program
[03:26] <namelezz> but it always comes error
[03:26] <namelezz> why??
[03:27] <BluesKaj> namelezz, what are you using to install the program/application ?
[03:30] <namelezz> i just double clicked and an active application came on
[03:30] <UnluckyMike> is there a better solution for korganizer sync with google calendar, or is gcaldaemon the only way to go?
[03:30] <namelezz> just like google destop
[03:31] <namelezz> i cant install it
[03:31] <BluesKaj> clicked om what ?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> on
[03:31] <namelezz> the set up
[03:32] <namelezz> ok i downloaded the google desktop
[03:32] <namelezz> so i double clicked the set up
[03:32] <namelezz> and the error came
[03:32] <CleanLaundry> how do I stream videos in firefox without having to download them?
[03:32] <bazhang> namelezz, downloaded from where, please give the url
[03:33] <bazhang> CleanLaundry, install the appropriate plugins
[03:33] <namelezz> bazhang what do u want to download???
[03:33] <namelezz> i have some ubuntu softwares here with me
[03:33] <bazhang> namelezz, what is the url you downloaded google desktop from
[03:34] <namelezz> i typed it in google and the site came
[03:34] <namelezz> but it seems i forgot the url
[03:34] <namelezz> my bad
[03:34] <bazhang> namelezz, please give us more info, and dont use the enter key so much
[03:34] <namelezz> plus my dictionary cant find any word i type in it
[03:35] <namelezz> ok
[03:37] <namelezz> what i am saying is. i wanted a google dekstop. so i went to google and typed google desktop. after somtime they gave me a site to download it. i did it perfectly. after it finishes i double clicked and it appeared error. and my dictionary cant find any word i type in it...is that ok now???
[03:37] <bazhang> namelezz, give us the url.
[03:37] <namelezz> i said i forgot the url
[03:38] <bazhang> please find it, or no real way to assist you.
[03:38] <namelezz> ok please wit
[03:38] <namelezz> wait
[03:38] <murry> was it destop.google.com?
[03:40] <namelezz> yeah
[03:40] <namelezz> i think its desktop google.com
[03:41] <bazhang> namelezz, was the file a .deb, a tar.gz , or something other
[03:41] <kaddi> I just installed FF 3.5 and was wondering if their is a safe way to remove plugins? I would like to try the "extension.checkcompatibility"-hack, but this automatically turns on the plugins for xulrunner 1.9.0.7 when 3.5 is running on xulrunner 1.9.1, which makes it crash on startup :/
[03:42] <BluesKaj> google auto detects the OS thru the browser so it must be google desktop linux deb
[03:42] <bazhang> hopefully
[03:43] <murry> namelezz what was the error msg?
[03:43] <namelezz> i think i have deleted the set up... came you gus help me get it??? and my dictionary too
[03:43] <namelezz> it says it does not support
[03:43] <BluesKaj> just tried it , but there are rpm versions, of google desktop
[03:43] <bazhang> namelezz, deleted how?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> prolly an rpm rather than deb
[03:43] <namelezz> so where can i get it to install and how
[03:44] <namelezz> i deleted the downloaded setup..the one i got from the site
[03:44] <murry> http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html
[03:44] <murry> is that the same or diff than what you tried?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/download.html
[03:45] <bazhang> namelezz, you need the .deb file
[03:45] <namelezz> ok thank you
[03:45] <bazhang> it will labeled as Ubuntu next to the link
[03:45] <namelezz> and how about the dictionary problem ??
[03:46] <bazhang> namelezz, which dictionary
[03:47] <namelezz> i have a dictionary on my application. i think its a default one. but anytime i try to find a word in it, it always comes out with nothing
[03:47] <bazhang> namelezz, which application are you referring to
[03:48] <namelezz> the google desktop is open now...which one should i download?
[03:48] <bazhang> the one with Ubuntu next to it, the .deb file
[03:48] <BluesKaj> namelezz, then right click on the file after it's finished downoading and choose "open with " / GDebi Package Installer
[03:49] <namelezz> ok i have here .rpm and .deb
[03:49] <BluesKaj> deb
[03:50] <bazhang> the .deb namelezz
[03:50] <namelezz> ok i am doing it.....the dictionary is on top of the office application
[03:51] <bazhang> namelezz, open office?
[03:51] <namelezz> yeah
[03:51] <bazhang> namelezz, what language are you searching in
[03:51] <namelezz> the settings is on english
[03:52] <namelezz> i looked for CAT and it couldnt give me the definition
[03:53] <bazhang> you need a definition of 'cat' ?
[03:53] <namelezz> a whole lot but thats one of them. yeah
[03:54] <bazhang> dont see a dictionary in open office
[03:55] <namelezz> when you go to application, then to office...dictionary is next to pop out
[03:55] <bazhang> namelezz, give a screenshot of this dictionary in open office
[03:55] <namelezz> ok
[03:55] <bazhang> !imagebin | namelezz
[03:58] <BluesKaj> sacktime ..night all
[03:59] <namelezz> i just did that
[03:59] <bazhang> give us the url
[04:00] <namelezz> http://imagebin.org/54742
[04:01] <typ30n3gativ3> need a little help removing a kernel
[04:01] <kurumin> alguem que curte  at the drive-in e the mars volta
[04:01] <murry> night
[04:01] <bazhang> kurumin, #ubuntu-br
[04:02] <bazhang> namelezz, you did not show the 'cat' search ; it works fine here
[04:02] <namelezz> have you guys got the link ??
[04:02] <namelezz> ok hold on
[04:02] <bazhang> namelezz, enter the word cat ; hit enter then wait
[04:03] <typ30n3gativ3> when I was installing kubuntu...for some reason I forget I installed linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-13-server package.  I also have linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic.  Can I boot into the generic kernel and use synaptic to remove the server kernel?
[04:04] <kurumin> alguem de sao paulo
[04:04] <bazhang> typ30n3gativ3, sure
[04:04] <bazhang> kurumin, brasil ?
[04:04] <typ30n3gativ3> bazhang: how do i edit the GRUB afterwards?  does it update itself upon removing the server-kernel?
[04:05] <bazhang> typ30n3gativ3, you are booting into the generic? no need to edit grub afaik
[04:06] <namelezz> http://imagebin.org/54745
[04:06] <typ30n3gativ3> the server kernel is the first one on the list
[04:06] <bazhang> namelezz, you are an espanol system?
[04:07] <namelezz> nope english but i will like it to be both espanol and english
[04:08] <kurumin> vao se foder
[04:08] <namelezz> i write books, so i will like it to be both
[04:08] <bazhang> namelezz, seems you dont have the proper libraries installed, or it is set to espanol currently
[04:09] <namelezz> i checked the preference and its english...ok any help??
[04:09] <typ30n3gativ3> I also have linux-source-2.6.28 installed...do I need that?  It's just the source code and I'm not a coder
[04:10] <bazhang> namelezz, check 'available dictionaries' under view, then hit the toggle bar to bring them up
[04:15] <namelezz> i am updating the system file
[04:15] <namelezz>  will do that after that
[04:17] <namelezz> can i install wallpaper sequence too??
[04:22] <namelezz> anybody there??
[04:25] <bazhang> what wallpaper sequence namelezz ? also you need to use people's nicknames to get their attention, as we are in many channels
[04:25] <bazhang> namelezz, type  baz <tab>
[04:27] <namelezz> ok..<bazhang> you see i have a wallpaper sequence...after installing it, it will keep changing your wallpaper to the pictures you assign to it
[04:27] <bazhang> namelezz, where did you install it from; what is the name of the application
 its called webshot...and i downloaded it sometime ago...about a week or two
[04:30] <bazhang> namelezz, a .deb ? from a 3rd party website? from the repos? you need to give more complete details.
[04:31] <namelezz> i got it from filehippo.com
it is .exe file
[04:32] <bazhang> namelezz, that is a windows program
[04:32] <namelezz> ohh ok...so where can i get the setup for ubuntu?
where can i get the setup to install on ubuntu?
[04:34] <bazhang> namelezz, no idea of that exact program; there are certainly others that have similar capabilities that work with Ubuntu though
[04:35] <namelezz> change dekstop pictures frequently on its own?
[04:36] <kaddi> if you don't want a certain order, you can simply set this in appearence
[04:36] <kaddi> do a right click on your desktop, select settings
[04:37] <kaddi> in the part backgroundpicture, click on the drop down menu next du type: select dia show (not sure how is it called in english) and it'll let you choose a folder from which the photos will be chosen
ok
[04:41] <kaddi> namelezz: is this what you want, or where you looking for something more sophisticated?
 something more than this.
[04:43] <cjae> is there a known bug for amarok using 100% cpu or is it scanning my collection or something?
[04:44] <bazhang> namelezz, there is something called wallpaper-tray ,it is gnome though (works with kde, but will pull in some gnome-libs)
[04:44] <bazhang> !info wallpaper-tray | namelezz
[04:45] <bazhang> namelezz, don't download random stuff from third party websites; use the package manager and the software repositories of ubuntu/kubuntu to install software packages.
thank you
[04:46] <bazhang> namelezz, you know how to install it?
nope
[04:47] <bazhang> namelezz, open a konsole
where can i find that please?
[04:48] <bazhang> namelezz, alt f2 konsole
i got it
[04:50] <bazhang> namelezz, now type this : sudo apt-get install wallpaper-tray  (then your user pass, and when asked Y)
i did and the window is gone
[04:53] <bazhang> namelezz, what window
the konsole
[04:54] <bazhang> namelezz, you closed it?
[04:54] <kaddi> he probably typed into the alt+f2 window
[04:54] <bazhang> namelezz, you need to type that into Konsole <--------
[04:55] <ign0ramus> hi kaddi! :)
[04:55] <namelezz> <i typed <sudo apt-get install wallpaper-tray >and it went off
[04:55] <kaddi> hi ign0ramus :)
[04:56] <bazhang> namelezz, without asking for a pass? it just closed on its own?
[04:56] <namelezz> yeah
[04:56] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  namelezz please download and read this book.
[04:57] <namelezz> ok
[04:57] <bazhang> namelezz, you will need to re-open konsole and try that again, and don't shut it accidentally or otherwise
[04:58] <kaddi> should apt-cache policy flashplugin* list me all packages starting with flashplugin?
[04:59] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- it doesn't for me. W: Unable to locate package flashplugin*
[04:59] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: it doesn't for me either, but I would bet a lot of money that it worked with firefox* earlier this night
[04:59] <Dragnslcr> apt-cache search would work though
[04:59] <namelezz> ight
[05:00] <kaddi> doesn't list if it is installed or not though
[05:00] <bazhang> namelezz, good luck, I have to head out now. please bookmark that book above and read it. its free and very informative.
[05:00] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- the only package that you should care about that matches that is flashplugin-installer
[05:01] <namelezz> ok <baz>i think ihave given too much problem
[05:01] <Dragnslcr> flashplugin-nonfree is just a metapackage for flashplugin-installer now
[05:01] <kaddi> good to now :)
[05:02] <bazhang> no problem at all namelezz ; just better to be informed so you can ask better questions should the need arise :)
[05:02] <namelezz> its my first time so..forgive moi....kaddi que haces??
[05:04] <namelezz> ok
[05:04] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: it definitely worked earlier tonight, I typed apt-cache policy firefox* and got the result for firefox and firefox-3.5
[05:04] <kaddi> see here http://nopaste.com/p/aEA6bBBQib
[05:04] <kaddi> funny it doesn't work now
[05:04] <kaddi> namelezz: do you still need help?
[05:05] <jithine> hi is anyone able to play last.fm tracks in ammarok 2.1.1
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- haha, guess why it worked
[05:06] <kaddi> tell me :p
[05:06] <namelezz> noe
[05:06] <namelezz> nope
[05:06] <kaddi> :)
[05:06] <Dragnslcr> Look at the directory you were in when you ran that command
[05:06] <kaddi> lol
[05:06] <namelezz> how can i add hot97 on the internet fm program??
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- see why it worked?
[05:07] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: and I was so happy about this working like I wanted it to work and not like it usually does XD
[05:07] <kaddi> yes I do :p
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[05:08] <Dragnslcr> I doubt I would have thought of it, either
[05:08] <kaddi> hehe
[05:09] <kaddi> namelezz: what pogram are you using?
[05:10] <namelezz> rhythmbox music player
[05:10] <kaddi> are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:10] <namelezz> ubuntu
[05:11] <kaddi> namelezz: please ask in the following channel: #ubuntu
[05:11] <kaddi> this channel is for kubuntu support, we do not use the same applications as ubuntu and can therefore not give you precise advice on how to do what you want to do
[05:12] <namelezz> ohh ok
[05:12] <namelezz> who is on facebook here
[05:12] <namelezz> am idle and will love to keep talking
[05:13] <bazhang> #kubuntu-offtopic for chat please namelezz
[05:22] <Serpardum> I can't remember the name of that file, .../X11/...conf   it has the video settings/resolutions
[05:23] <Serpardum> xorg.conf I think.  let me checjk
[05:23] <Serpardum> yeah, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:23] <kaddi>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf but be careful what you editk in there and make a backup before changing anything ;)
[05:24] <Serpardum> right kaddi
[05:24] <kaddi> sry it took so long head to realise /etc would not be recognized as a valid command bei freenode -.-
[05:24] <kaddi> *had even
[05:24] <minifig> I installed Kubuntu 8.04 using Wubi and it is working quite well.  There is a version upgrade available.  Can I do that without loosing KDE3?
[05:24] <minifig> Is it safe to do version upgrades?
[05:25] <kaddi> minifig: you can find instruction on how to upgrade to jaunty keeping kde3 here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[05:26] <kaddi> however I quite like kde4 and would suggest that you try it out :)
[05:26] <minifig> I have tried KDE 4 using a live CD and don't not care for it.
[05:27] <kaddi> ok, :)
[05:27] <minifig> I am so used to Windows 98 and all that adding all that stuff just isn't pleasant for me.  If that makes any sense.
[05:28] <Serpardum> Okay, in x11.conf I have "Configured Video Device" and "Configured Monitor" yet I can only go to 1024x768.  Last time I had changed that and put in specific settings, "1440 x 900" etc...  Is there a way I can changet he "confugred" settings?
[05:28] <minifig> I will try the version upgrade and see what happens.
[05:28] <kaddi> I ain't saying anything. IMHO "I don't like it" is the best reason not to use a program. ;) BUT (there is always a but ;) ) I find KDE4 grows on you, I wasn't convinced I'd like it and know I'm happy with it
[05:29] <minifig> Well, I cannot argue that because at first I couldn't stand Linux, but lookie here I am using it.  lol
[05:29] <kaddi> minifig, did you read the link? If you simply upgrade you will get kde4, you need to back up your settings first
[05:30] <kaddi> hehe
[05:30] <minifig> Loading site now.
[05:30] <kaddi> you need to scroll down a bit, the part is titled "updating from  8.04 [hardy heron]
[05:30] <kaddi> "
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> guys, my audio has suddenly failed. all i hear now is like laggy sounds
[05:33] <eatThisAndDie> and i have no real idea what to do bout it..
[05:34] <kaddi> have you tried to reboot?
[05:34] <eatThisAndDie> kaddi: yes same thing
[05:34] <eatThisAndDie> i initially killed knotify4 to stop it.
[05:35] <kaddi> sry, this goes over my head then. ;) All I can add is that you can set standard output under system settings multimedia.. maybe if you switch output it will work again?
[05:35] <eatThisAndDie> when i plug my laptop charger out / in, i get the laggy sounds again, and so i gotta kill knotify4 again.
[05:35] <kaddi> system settings->multimedia that is
[05:35] <cjae> Ok I finally just figured out how to use kid3 except for the cddb part wherever it is, anyway, any idea why it keeps having errors why it cannot save the modified file names?
[05:37] <eatThisAndDie> kaddi: you mean the "output preference" ?
[05:37] <kaddi> eatThisAndDie: something else you might try is disabling sound notifications for kwin or knotify If you unplug your power supply kwin/notify usually plays a sound... if you disable that maybe knotify won't interfer with suond?
[05:38] <kaddi> eatThisAndDie: probably, my OS isn't english, so I'm translating as best I can ;)
[05:38] <eatThisAndDie> kaddi: same applies when i try to play games, or audio,
[05:38] <eatThisAndDie> so the problem is not just the kwin / knotify
[05:38] <eatThisAndDie> seems more like the hardware / driver / backend
[05:40] <kaddi> eatThisAndDie: this is definitely out of my league then
[05:40] <eatThisAndDie> kaddi: thanks anyway :)
[05:41] <kaddi> you're welcome :)
[05:41] <b3lorix> hey, im trying to install nvidia on kubuntu, how do you kill the display manager, i know in ubuntu its sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop
[05:41] <eatThisAndDie> b3lorix try kdm instead of gdm,
[05:41] <Fetusbubble> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ?
[05:42] <b3lorix> haha ok
[05:42] <b3lorix> thanks
[05:42] <Fetusbubble> ):
[05:43] <vox> i'm trying to view yenc-encoded images with knode, but its only displaying the image code, not the image itself. i've installed the yenc decoder package. any thoughts?
[05:45] <kaddi> vox maybe check the file association under system settings ->advanced ->file association?
[05:45] <kaddi> uh no,sry
[05:45] <kaddi> that probably won't work, I misunderstood
[05:45] <tuvok> vox: use pan and be done with it
[05:46] <tuvok> you don't HAVE to use stuff that starts with "k"
[05:47] <akSeya> hi there
[05:48] <kaddi> !hi| akSeya
[05:48] <akSeya> does anybody knows a good app to sync SMS from my cellphone?
[05:48] <akSeya> thanks ;)
[05:50] <vox> darthanubis: yeah that works. cheers
[06:13] <darthanubis> how does one change the KDM theme?
[06:15] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: you told me before that flashplugin-nonfree was just a container, right? So if I install flashplugin-installer everything necessary should be installed?
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- yeah, -nonfree is just a metapackage in 9.04
[06:18] <kaddi> darthanubis: look at appearance in system settings, you can set most of the stuff in their. (top row, third icon from the left, in case my translation is wrong ;) )
[06:18] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: thanks :)
[06:20] <darthanubis> kaddi: I need root access
[06:20] <darthanubis> what is the cmd from term?
[06:21] <kaddi> darthanubis: you shouldn't need root access for that
[06:21] <darthanubis> you need root to change KDM themes, yes you do
[06:21] <darthanubis> now how anyone who knows?
[06:24] <kaddi> we're not talking about the same thing then
[06:26] <kaddi> look at system settings -> advanced ->loginmanager-> themes is this what you are looking for?
[06:26] <kaddi> you'll need to enter your password to open loginmanager
[06:28] <darthanubis> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-anubis" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:29] <darthanubis> kaddi: there was no dialog to enter my password
[06:29] <darthanubis> I called it via sudo from cli, and got errors
[06:29] <kaddi> !kdesudo
[06:30] <kaddi> don't use sudo with graphical applications, that won't end well
[06:30] <darthanubis> I don't seem to have ksudo on my system?
[06:31] <kaddi> kdesudo or kdesu not ksudo
[06:31] <darthanubis> just gksudo?
[06:31] <kaddi> try kdesudo programname
[06:34] <darthanubis> both gksudo and kdesudo started the app with seemingly root. kdesudo , obvious did it better, but I still can't download and install new KDM themes?
[06:35] <darthanubis> I see the themes, but click install does nothing
[06:37] <DarkKrai> Can anyone tell me why Ark cannot open up .rars?
[06:39] <kaddi> DarkKrai: see if rar is installed, afaik it is not installed by default
[06:39] <DarkKrai> Can anyone tell me why Ark cannot open up .rars?oh okay
[06:39] <DarkKrai> sorry had that in my chat input
[06:40] <DarkKrai> thank you, kaddi
[06:40] <DarkKrai> oh, I have another question
[06:40] <DarkKrai> http://avanix.uni.cc/images/snapshot2.png
[06:40] <DarkKrai> how do I install those?
[06:41] <DarkKrai> awesome, its working now
[06:42] <kaddi> DarkKrai: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:43] <DarkKrai> awesome, thanks again
[06:43] <DarkKrai> its working :)
[06:43] <kaddi> darthanubis: I'm kind off baffled, don't see why this doesn't work
[06:44] <darthanubis> kaddi: are you trying it yourself?
[06:44] <kaddi> yes, I'm experiencing the same thing as you are
[06:44] <darthanubis> whew, I love when I find out I'm not crazy;)
[06:44] <kaddi> this might be a problem on kde-look.org though, i can't download wallpapers either
[06:44] <darthanubis> I can download EVERYTHIGN else
[06:44] <darthanubis> I'm downloading and installing slpash screen themes right now
[06:46] <darthanubis> ok, it said they were installing bu tthey did not
[06:52] <kaddi_> darthanubis: you could alway just download the file from kde-look and install it manually that works fine for me
[06:52] <darthanubis> kaddi: desktop themes window themes seems to be the only ones working
[06:53] <darthanubis> kaddi_: that is cool, I just like to know why things donn't behave as they should
[06:53] <darthanubis> But this is RC so maybe Final version will be near falwless
[06:53] <kaddi_> I can't tell you that :p
[06:53] <darthanubis> thanks for what you did do though:)
[06:53] <kaddi_> you're on 4.3?
[06:53] <darthanubis> yes
[06:53] <erik_> hi can anyone help with sound problem
[06:53] <kaddi_> I'm not :p
[06:53] <darthanubis> kaddi_: again nice to know it affects us both
[06:53] <kaddi_> I think it's a problem at the website, not with kde itself, but I don't know
[06:54] <erik_> hi
[06:55] <erik_> if anyone can help with sound problem please tell
[07:03] <kaddi_> I'm still having the issue where my desktop completely freezes, keyboard does not respond to anything (alt+F4,ctrl+alt+f2,ctrl+alt+del, which is enabled), you can't even get the led for toggling shift to work, but sound is still playing... the only solution then is a hardreboot. I'm already running the new kernel 2.6.30-020630rc6 (I had the same issues with 28) and using kde 4.2.4 on jaunty ... anyone has an idea what might cause this?
[07:11] <mwalker> I want to test out KDE 4.3 but I'm not sure how to get the upgrade from the command line.
[07:12] <typ30n3gativ3> I upgraded to 4.3 and lost my icons
[07:12] <typ30n3gativ3> had to re-install them
[07:13] <cismajor97> is it to buggy to test out at this point?
[07:13] <cismajor97> more like an alpha?
[07:14] <typ30n3gativ3> dunno...everything seems fine.  I had to re-install alot of stuff after the upgrade though
[07:14] <kaddi> the problem is that once you upgrade you can't easily go back ... so usually if you don't need to you won't upgrade
[07:14] <cismajor97> cool I'll create a snapshot of my VM first before I mess with the upgrade
[07:14] <kaddi> hehe, that might be a good idea :p
[07:15] <cismajor97> is there a command similar to tracert in bash?
[07:15] <kaddi> remind what tracert does please
[07:15] <cismajor97> you can trace a route to a certain IP
[07:16] <typ30n3gativ3> cismajor97: yea - traceroute
[07:16] <cismajor97> basically it lists all the hops between your local host and the host you want to get to
[07:17] <kaddi> yes I know, just needed a kick to be sure .. :p I would have said tracepath, but I don't know what the difference between that and traceroute is
[07:17] <cismajor97> i wasn't sure what it was called in bash
[07:17] <typ30n3gativ3> cismajor97: traceroute is not installed by default...you have to apt-get it
[07:18] <cismajor97> I'm a Windows guy exploring Linux
[07:18] <cismajor97> typ30n3gativ3: thanks
[07:18] <typ30n3gativ3> cismajor97: np
[07:19] <kaddi> cismajor97: I used to be... somewhere along the road... :P
[07:19] <cismajor97> kaddi: Well in my case it pays my mortgage :)
[07:19] <typ30n3gativ3> cismajor97: once you get it installed the <code>man traceroute</code>in the konsole will show you the details
[07:19] <kaddi> i used to be a windows person, not a guy XD
[07:32] <darkrai> Has anyone been able to run Photoshop CS4/CS3 under WINE?
[07:33] <Driv3r912> Anyone know how to get KDE to have the Oxygen theme look like this: http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg?
[07:34] <Driv3r912> This theme can be found in the openSUSE 11.1 KDE.
[07:35] <bazhang> darkrai, check the appdb
[07:35] <bazhang> !appdb | darkrai
[07:38] <Driv3r912> Any takers by chance?
[07:39] <bazhang> Driv3r912, had a look at kde-look yet?
[07:39] <Driv3r912> I looked around, didn't see it...
[07:43] <coppro> How do I deuglify Firefox without installing another theme (and please don't say "install another theme". I mean it)
[07:45] <Captain_Haddock> lots of patience
[07:45] <coppro> okay, I probably didn't miss any answers, but just to be sure: did I miss anything?
[07:46] <Captain_Haddock> yes
[07:46] <coppro> Captain_Haddock: my connection just dropped, it's always good to be sure
[07:46] <Captain_Haddock> "change your theme" :P
[07:46] <Captain_Haddock> what's ugly about your FF?
[07:46] <Refraxx> Hello All
[07:47] <Captain_Haddock> Hi
[07:48] <picketfences> Refraxx is my brother, and I suggested he use Konversation whenever he needs help
[07:51] <coppro> Captain_Haddock: tabs and form controls don't render good. At all. Tabs I can fix with a theme, but the rest is still bad. I can get a screenshot if my connection doesn't keep dropping
[07:51] <coppro> It's really bad now that I'm using 3.5, but 3.0 definitely had it too
[07:57] <Daemon> how can i tell what type of file system im using?
[07:57] <Daemon> example ext3 or ext4?
[07:57] <coppro> Daemon: /etc/mtab
[07:58] <Daemon> ty
[08:05] <Refraxx> Hi all, I'm new to Kubuntu, my bro just helped me install this Konversation thing. What IS this place? He said I could find help in here.
[08:06] <kaddi_> Refraxx: hello and welcome. :) This is the official (english) support channel for kubuntu
[08:06] <kaddi_> if you have a problem or need an answer, state your question and if someone knows the answer (s)he'll help you out
[08:06] <Refraxx> Any idea how to stop the lagg when online?
[08:07] <Refraxx> kool, Hi Kaddi
[08:07] <kaddi_> and no, I don't know how to stop the lag
[08:07] <Refraxx> do u know some1 who does?
[08:07] <Refraxx> referalls?
[08:07] <Refraxx> advice?
[08:08] <coppro> Refraxx: get a better connection?
[08:08] <kaddi_> this is probably more of an irc problem then an actual kubuntu problem :p
[08:08] <Refraxx> ok, I have a more Kubuntu related prob.
[08:09] <Refraxx> I mess up something on the task bar @ bottom of my screen & kant fix it
[08:09] <Refraxx> XD
[08:10] <jussi01> Refraxx: try to elaborate a litttle, tell us exactly what the problem is
[08:10] <Refraxx> u know the Black taskbar? theres no space on the left....there was b 4.
[08:11] <Refraxx> @ the bottom of the screen, everything is pushed over to the left
[08:11] <coppro> Try switching desktops
[08:11] <coppro> and switching back
[08:12] <Refraxx> kinda kool, but it didnt work. It's the same on the other desktop
[08:12] <Refraxx> I'm gonna have 2 remember I can do that.
[08:13] <Refraxx> there used 2 b a space between the favorites polder & the desktop icons. now they are squished 2gether
[08:14] <Refraxx> My Bro said I might need 2 do a full reset, but I dont remember how
[08:15] <coppro> just go K->Leave->Restart
[08:15] <Refraxx> (full reset of the taskbars)
[08:15] <coppro> oh
[08:15] <coppro> Alt-F2 -> killall plasma, Alt-F2 -> plasma
[08:15] <Refraxx> sry--didnt think of it till 2 late
[08:15] <Refraxx> ok, then what?
[08:16] <coppro> did you do that?
[08:16] <Refraxx> hang on....
[08:17] <Refraxx> there was a black horizontal address lookin bar....What was that?
[08:18] <coppro> that's the command bar
[08:18] <Refraxx> I was kinda expecting the bottom of screen 2 go naked
[08:18] <coppro> it can hit any menu item you type in or run a command as if from the terminal
[08:19] <Refraxx> when I pushed f2
[08:19] <coppro> you type "killall plasma" in there to kill the taskbar
[08:19] <coppro> and then do it again with just "plasma" to restart it
[08:19] <Refraxx> ah, Ok, that makes more sense. Gonna do it now brb
[08:20] <coppro> you can use it to start applications from the keyboard too, without that nasty menu navigation stuff :)
[08:21] <Refraxx> ok, I don't understand something
[08:21] <Refraxx> I typed it in, but
[08:21] <Refraxx> nothing happened
[08:21] <Refraxx> shouldnt the screen go blank or something?
[08:23] <Refraxx> Halfway through "killallplasma" is a sign that pops up saying "run kill"
[08:23] <Refraxx> what is that?
[08:24] <coppro> "killall plasma" is two words
[08:24] <coppro> and no, the screen won't go blank, but the taskbar will disappear
[08:25] <Refraxx> oh, ok. will this chat box still be open?
[08:25] <coppro> yes
[08:25] <coppro> "run kill" is just a prompt to run the "kill" command, which kills a specified process. killall kills all processes with a given name
[08:25] <coppro> and unless you are running multiple sessions, won't cause problems
[08:25] <Refraxx> ok.nah, just running this chat program
[08:27] <Refraxx> hmmmm....should I have unlocked widgets first?
[08:27] <coppro> shouldn't matter
[08:28] <coppro> if you did it right, the bar should disappear when killed
[08:28] <Refraxx> ok, well it didnt work
[08:28] <Refraxx> dude, the whole screen went black
[08:28] <Refraxx> except 4 the chat box
[08:30] <coppro> oh, you don't have it maximized
[08:30]  * coppro forgets these things sometimes
[08:31] <Refraxx> just tried it again, still looks the same.....Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong...doing it just like u said 2 do it
[08:31] <coppro> can you get a screeenshot?
[08:31] <Refraxx> Maximized?
[08:31] <coppro> filling up the whole screen
[08:31] <Refraxx> Yeah, I think I can screen shot it 4 u
[08:33] <Refraxx> ok, Got a screenshot, where 2 send it?
[08:33] <coppro> does your client have DCC?
[08:34] <Refraxx> no, DSL
[08:34] <coppro> ah, here we go
[08:34] <coppro> http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/dcc.html
[08:34] <Refraxx> what is a version request?
[08:34] <coppro> it's just me seeing what IRC program you're using
[08:35] <Refraxx> ok
[08:35] <Refraxx> u want me 2 click on the link?
[08:35] <coppro> yeah
[08:35] <coppro> it'll explain how to send me a file
[08:36] <Refraxx> reading the info..............
[08:39] <Refraxx> well this is crazy...NOW I cant find the pic, I'll take another one
[08:39] <Refraxx> & send it 2 u
[08:41] <Refraxx> sry, thats not what I wanted 2 do.
[08:41] <Refraxx> trying 2 c it b 4 I sent it.
[08:44] <darkrai> =/
[08:47] <Refraxx> Finally, I figured out wich one was the one
[08:48] <Refraxx> coppro- It's awaiting ur acceptance
[08:48] <coppro> I don't see it :/
[08:48] <Refraxx> Do u c this?     [DCC] Asking coppro to accept upload of "tec_support_screenshot.png" (489.6 KB)...
[08:49] <coppro> nope
[08:49] <kaddi_> maybe upload the file to file-upload.net or similar, give the link here and delete the file once you're done?
[08:50] <coppro> but DCC is so much faster :P
[08:50] <kaddi_> not if you can't get the picture :P
[08:50] <Refraxx> this is weird....I see the pic, as you should see it.
[08:51] <Refraxx> Gona try kaddi's idea, gimme a sec.....
[08:53] <Captain_Haddock> coppro: no idea re: tabs not rendering properly... There is a Firefox channel on irc.mozilla.org which might be able to provide specific help if you give them screenshots.
[08:53] <coppro> Captain_Haddock: I think it's a KDE issue - do you see them fine?
[08:54] <Captain_Haddock> yep
[08:54] <Refraxx> ok, here it is coppro
[08:54] <Refraxx> http://www.myfileupload.net/download.php?file=2e6e40c1b64aec0a9cdf260b6c7c32f3
[08:54] <Refraxx> that's the link it gave me
[08:54] <Captain_Haddock> KDE 4.2 / FF 3.0.11
[08:55] <Refraxx> do u c it?
[08:56] <coppro> Refraxx: oh, I know what happened
[08:56] <coppro> you accidentally removed your system tray from the bar so it got confused
[08:56] <coppro> Right-click and pick "Add widgets"
[08:57] <coppro> and pick Task Manager from the list
[08:57] <coppro> drag it into position
[08:58] <Captain_Haddock> coppro: The screenshot is of chatzilla tabs?
[08:58] <coppro> Captain_Haddock: yes
[08:58] <coppro> been like that since I upgraded to Jaunty; both 3.0 and 3.5
[08:59] <Captain_Haddock> Are you FF tabs fine?
[08:59] <Captain_Haddock> your*
[08:59] <Refraxx> Awsome!!! It worked! thanks guys! you  all rock!
[09:00] <coppro> Captain_Haddock: not in the Default Theme
[09:00] <coppro> in any other theme they look like they should
[09:00] <coppro> also, all form controls have gray squares around them
[09:00] <Refraxx> gotta go now, as it's 4am here & I NEED sleep
[09:00] <Refraxx> Thanks again!
[09:18] <crackstore> hye all
[09:32] <safruhani> hi, how can i get a screen shot? (and how can i customize it a keyboard shortcut?)
[09:42] <eMyller> safruhani: open ksnapshot
[09:43] <eMyller> still dunno how you'd assign it for a shortcut.
[09:43] <nathan7> In the systemsettings
[09:43] <nathan7> It's under keyboard iirc
[09:43] <eMyller> yea, maybe
[09:43] <nathan7> It _IS_
[09:43] <eMyller> or sure
[09:44] <crackstore> hye all
[09:45] <crackstore> how to fix ip add subnet and gateway?
[09:45] <eMyller> ctrl+print and alt+print are available. thanks, nathan7
[09:45] <crackstore> wlan ip
[09:45] <crackstore> :)
[09:46] <nathan7> crackstore: Well, first stop smoking crack.
[09:50] <crackstore> :)
[09:50] <crackstore> smoking?
[09:50]  * crackstore not smoking :P
[09:50] <cjae> why does kde 4 hate .pdf's so much?
[09:51] <kaddi_> cjae what kind of problems are you having?
[09:53] <cjae> kaddi_, are you using kde 4.2.x, open a directory with many .pdfs and see for yourself
[09:54] <cjae> kaddi_, try to open two .pdf's in okular and see how much it slows system
[09:54] <kaddi_> kk
[09:54] <kaddi_> gimme a sec
[09:56] <cjae> kaddi_, I dont run that powerful a system though, p4 3.0 ghz and I can tell ... a lot, it may have something to do with the ext4 fs though too!
[09:57] <kaddi_> cjae I was just going to say.. I'm well over the minimal requirements for okular and I don't run ext4
[09:58] <cjae> and runs fine?
[09:58] <kaddi_> I have now a total of 1000 pages opened in okular, 3 pdf,one with 700pages, 2 with 150... can't say I'm noticing anything
[09:59] <anasha> * ehhe
[09:59] <crackstore> :)
[09:59] <crackstore> my place have wireless
[09:59] <haikel> bonjour
[09:59] <crackstore> why my kubuntu cannot detect the wireless
[09:59] <crackstore> adess
[10:00] <crackstore> help me prenzz
[10:00] <crackstore> :(
[10:00] <cjae> I have been using kde 4 since .1 and was surprised too see it still having issues
[10:00] <cjae> I have done many clean installs and such too
[10:01] <haikel> je suis debutant avec kubuntu et je n arrive pas a faire fonctionner bureau 3D
[10:01] <haikel> help please
[10:01] <cope> ciao ragazzi qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[10:02] <kaddi_> cjae: I upgraded really early from 4.1 because I had nothing but trouble, but since then it has been pretty stable
[10:02] <cope> ragazzi ho un problema con l avvio mi aiutate x favore..
[10:02] <kaddi_> italiano?
[10:03] <cope> mastico da ieri kubuntu:)
[10:03] <cope> sisi
[10:03] <kaddi_> !it | cope
[10:03] <haikel> ping
[10:03] <cjae> kaddi_, yes I like it a lot but there is many things still missing
[10:04] <kaddi_> cjae I won't contradict you on that :p
[10:05] <haikel> help please
[10:06] <haikel> i m new in the  world of kubuntu
[10:06] <haikel> cool kubuntu
[10:07] <kaddi_> !fr | haikel
[10:07] <kaddi_> haikel: would you prefer french or english?
[10:08] <kaddi_> (not sure I can help though, it's more a general question ;)
[10:08] <haikel> im not good in english
[10:08] <haikel> :)kaddi
[10:10] <kaddi_> haikel: je te conseillerai d'aller sur #ubuntu-fr alors. ;) tape simplement "/join #ubuntu-fr" et retour
[10:39] <baron86> does anyone knows where the Menu in kubuntu is saved so i can modify it? I dont like Kmenu Editor Thnx
[10:46] <xiaket> baron86: remove that widget and add a traditional widget
[10:47] <baron86> that wouldnt help.. I mean if its sth like a cong file that i could modify cause i want to make script for quick installation
[11:06] <haikel> hello
[11:07] <haikel> i installed kubuntu but i don't find adept manager
[11:07] <haikel> help please
[11:18] <Zorael> haikel: Adept isn't used anymore, in favor of KPackageKit
[11:19] <Zorael> haikel: you can still install the adept package though, as far as I know
[11:19] <haikel> sudo apt-get install adept
[11:20] <haikel> i have no result with this command
[11:21] <haikel> it s impossible to find  this paquet
[11:21] <haikel> Zoreal:)
[11:21] <Zorael> haikel: Do you have the universe repositories enabled? "kdesudo software-properties-kde"
[11:22] <haikel> no zoraeal
[11:22] <haikel> no Zoreal
[11:22] <Zorael> haikel: I just tried installing it and it works for me, you need the universe repos enabled th9ough
[11:22] <Zorael> -9
[11:23] <cjae> ok I thought linux could make mount point across many harddrives, is the LVM and if so how do I enable it?
[11:23] <cjae> !lvm
[11:24] <serenity> i'm using 4.3rc, but can't find the akonadi resource for google calender. Where can i find it?
[11:31] <kriox> But kubuntu whit xfce work like xfce?
[11:38] <bazhang> kriox, if you wish to try install xubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <kriox> no i have installed but i do not see more difference
[11:49] <kriox> how make work amarock?
[11:49] <kriox> to play mp3 amd wma?
[11:50] <kriox> thanks for all by
[11:55] <xwca> hi
[12:33] <dx_rvr> hello could someone help me out with the KDE desktop?
[12:33] <dx_rvr> i am having some isssues with my icons
[12:34] <dx_rvr> bump...
[12:35] <anr78> is there a trigger here that lets me check the version of an application in Jaunty?
[12:35] <anr78> !krusader
[12:40] <jussi01> !info waon | anr78
[12:40] <jussi01> anr78: you can also check other versions like this:
[12:41] <jussi01> !info waon hardy
[12:41] <anr78> jussi01: ah. thanks.
[12:41] <jussi01> anr78: for other bot commands and use, see this:
[12:41] <anr78> !info krusader jaunty
[12:41] <jussi01> !bot
[12:53] <kubu> Hi, pals. I have a problem changing Kjots fontsize grater than 14. It happens when i past a text from other application, say a web browser. I wonder if this is a bug.
[13:07] <anat> hello, all
[13:08] <frenchy> good moarning every one :)
[13:09] <anat> ))
[13:09] <anat> in Russia the day is the end
[13:10] <anat> work day
[13:13] <frenchy> lol :)
[13:13] <frenchy> i discovered a really annoying bug with kde rc1, can someone confirm that bug please before i report it ??? my version behave really weirdly
[13:21] <Guest69284> o
[13:57] <orion_> help me now update firefox 3.1 to 3.5
[13:57] <Pici> orion_: Install the firefox-3.5 package
[14:04] <tuvok> Pici: why does installing FF3.5 want to pull in FF3.0 as well?
[14:05] <beilard> hey, how can i add songs to my ipod with amarok 2?
[14:08] <Pici> tuvok: it looks like firefox-3.5 has ubufox as a recommended package, but ubufox requires firefox, which ff-3.5 doesn't provide.
[14:12] <faileas> beilard: IIRC you need to add the ipod as a device, and it should be drag and drop after that
[14:12] <tuvok> Pici: the preview version from mozilla worked better than ubuntu's final release. The 'open last viewed tabs" option after restarting FF3.5 does not appear to work?
[14:13] <faileas> HOWEVER, i personally have had amarok mess up my album art, so if its important to you... well, you;ve been warned
[14:13] <NiTzer> I agree with faileas. moved to atunes
[14:14] <jim__> many many boys but no girls....why???
[14:14] <Pici> darthanubis: I'm sorry, I actually don't use 3.5 on my system. You can file a bug for that issue if it is indeed a bug.  I'm filing one for it pulling in ff-3.0 right now.
[14:15] <darthanubis> Thanks. I'm never sure if my issues are really bugs you know?
[14:15] <darthanubis> That is a HUGE feature to be broekn on fianl release....regression?
[14:15] <darthanubis> broekn
[14:15] <darthanubis> final
[14:16] <darthanubis> broken@
[14:17] <beilard> faileas: where can i add it as a device? i am using amarok 2
[14:26] <darthanubis> Pici: it seems Launchpad is broken for me as well
[14:26] <darthanubis> Our edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection.
[14:26] <designs703> Hi everyone. I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 but I find the settings app that is bundled to be confusing. How can I access the normal KDE settings app?
[14:27] <darthanubis> and clicking the disable redirection for 2hrs does nothing
[14:27] <Pici> darthanubis: I was just using edge and it was working fine. /me shrugs
[14:27] <darthanubis> designs703: don't use KDE4?
[14:27] <designs703> darthanubis: I am running Kubuntu 8.04
[14:27] <designs703> darthanubis: which uses KDE 3.5.7, I believe
[14:28] <darthanubis> oh, sorry
[14:28] <designs703> but I made the mistake of installing kubuntu-desktop instead of KDE by itself, and I don't like this configuration
[14:28] <designs703> darthanubis: np
[14:29] <orion_> help me now update firefox 3.1 to 3.5
[14:29] <orion_> ops
[14:29] <orion_> sorry
[14:29] <orion_>  please help air theme final update
[14:30] <orion_> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme) help me why ?
[14:32] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/396556
[14:32] <suso_> eeeeeeeh
[14:33]  * designs703 goes to #kde
[14:35] <darthanubis> Pici: seems to be broken even in the packages from Mozilla's PPA:(
[14:36] <Pici> darthanubis: Mozilla doesn't have a PPA. If you mean mozillateam, those people are Ubuntu developers
[14:37] <darthanubis> Pici: oooh
[14:37] <darthanubis> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu
[14:38] <darthanubis> "We" have to stop breaking perfectly good stuff when adding it to Ubuntu. It is starting to be our trademark. breaking upstream stuff:/
[14:47] <CQ> hello, I have a few blocked updates, all of them kernel updates... any ideas why?
[14:48] <bazhang> CQ, that is normal, they are held back whilst others are yet to arrive
[14:48] <CQ> ok, so just wait and at some point they will install?
[14:49] <bazhang> CQ, yes, you can install now if you wish, or just wait a few days
[14:49] <NiTzer> CQ, yes or you can perform an apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:50] <Dragnslcr> CQ- KPackageKit doesn't do a dist-upgrade, so the kernel packages are blocked because they have new dependencies
[14:50] <Dragnslcr> I think the old Adept updater did a dist-upgrade instead of just a normal upgrade
[14:51] <CQ> what's the diff between the normal and the dist-upgrade?
[14:51] <bazhang> installs held back items
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> CQ: dist upgrade also upgrades kernels and core libs
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> CQ: may not be needed so are in a seperate update
[14:51] <CQ> ah, ok, I thought that was just for release upgrades
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> CQ: especially kernels which people blindly upgrade even when its not needed
[14:53] <NiTzer> ActionParsnip: Yep did that the other day and got screwed, using Karmic.  Better today.  Almost had to go vanilla
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> i don't understand the mindset, if you knew what a kernel was you'd realise its not necessary to get the newest kerneel
[14:55] <NiTzer> ActionParsnip:  In my case I am helping with Karmic and testing the new Intel graphics cards and code with acceleration, but I agree
[14:55] <NiTzer> Especially for production
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> NiTzer: testing is fine (and good) but for production its funnt
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> NiTzer: theres even some dude on answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu who says he's ruined his work laptop putting ubuntu on
[14:56] <Dragnslcr> CQ- when a new version of a package has new dependencies, the new version gets blocked. A normal upgrade won't get the new version, but dist-upgrade will install the new dependencies and get the new version
[14:56] <CQ> Dragnslcr: that makes sense...
[14:57] <Dragnslcr> Took me a couple times reading the apt-get man page to figure it out
[14:57] <stephan> hi, i always use fish://root@.. to copy files to a server, but know one of the new servers only accepts sudo (no root login) is there a way to use fish with sudo?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> stephan: create a folder with write access to your user name you are writing or reading to/from
[15:00] <stephan> ActionParsnip: thats not the fun fish used to be...
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> stephan: i wouldn't use anything over network that used root, not exactly security smart
[15:01] <stephan> even ssh...
[15:02] <stephan> so i take my car and go to our provider and ask them to let me in?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> stephan: i just wouldnt use root at all
[15:04] <stephan> only sudo? or never change a "root:root" file?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> stephan: not necessary if you use sudo
[15:05] <Dragnslcr> stephan- always connect to the server as a normal user and use sudo for root privileges
[15:08] <stephan> ist there a "gui" tool to copy data with scp which is sudo able?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> !find scp
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> i think filezilla can do it, not sure
[15:10] <NiTzer> Filezilla can do it
[15:13] <NiTzer> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8600 for a good article on scp without passwords
[15:17] <Dragnslcr> I don't recall scp supporting regular shell commands, but I could be wrong. If you need to run shell commands, you'd use a normal ssh connection
[15:19] <Dragnslcr> Dolphin does have a terminal pane, though, so you could have a local directory, a remote directory, and an ssh connection in the same window
[15:29] <benny_> anybody pls teach me how to install software in this kubuntu flatform?
[15:31] <kaddi> benny_: open the startmenu, go to programs, go to system, go to package manager (add/remove in the subtitle) and selet what you want, klick apply changes, enter your password and yo're done :)
[15:37] <benny_> how i can use Yahoo mesenger here?
[15:39] <phh> benny_: just launch kopete
[15:39] <benny_> how can i chat with my friend
[15:40] <phh> just launch kopete ...
[15:40] <benny_> how can i use my web cam in kubuntu?
[15:40] <phh> same answer.
[15:42] <benny_> i dont know how to use kapote
[15:42] <benny_> how to chat with kapote
[15:44] <phh> kopete ...
[15:44] <phh> launch it and you'll see ..
[15:44] <kaddi> benny_: kopete is a program whith which you can use icq, yahoo, msn, aim and many more with one program, you simply enter your nick and your password and it will connect you to your friends
[15:45] <Refraxx> Hello all, is this a tech.support chat room?
[15:46] <kaddi> Refraxx: this is the kubuntu support chat room yes
[15:46] <kaddi> it is not a general tech support chat though ;)
[15:47] <Refraxx> ok, you know the black taskbar @ the bottom of screen? Why would the software update icon still be there after I update the software??
[15:47] <kaddi> what did you update?
[15:47] <kaddi> which packages?
[15:47] <Refraxx> abt 10 security& 3or 4 bug fixes
[15:48] <kaddi> what happens when you click on the software update icon?
[15:48] <kaddi> you asked me about the screenshot, this morning no?
[15:49] <Refraxx> it comes up with the typical screen, but there is a new thing here now that says "blocked updates" that came abt the same time the icon wouldn't dissapear
[15:49] <Refraxx> I cant delete the blocked u/d
[15:49] <Refraxx> theres o icon for deletion
[15:50] <Refraxx> no*
[15:50] <kaddi> yes, as long as you don't install those there are packages available that are newer than yours and the software update will stay
[15:50] <kaddi> did you try the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to install them, or do you not want to install them?
[15:51] <Refraxx> I want to do whatever I need 2 do 2 make the software icon go away when I u/d everything
[15:51] <Refraxx> I just dont know HOW
[15:52] <kaddi> then try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a commandline
[15:52] <Refraxx> comand line?     F2?
[15:52] <Refraxx> alt+F2?
[15:52] <kaddi> ah sorry
[15:53] <kaddi> hit alt+f2 type "konsole" in it, a commandline should open
[15:53] <Refraxx> k
[15:53] <kaddi> type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in there and enter your passwort
[15:53] <kaddi> when asked to
[15:55] <Refraxx> its working......brb
[15:57] <Refraxx> What I need is a spare computer to mess around with, where I dont fear screwing anythin up('cos its a spare)
[15:57] <bazhang> Refraxx, depending on how much ram you have you could use a virtual machine
[15:57] <bazhang> !vm
[15:57] <Refraxx> 50% komplete.........
[15:58] <kaddi> bazhang: dang you type quick
[15:58] <Refraxx> lol
[15:58] <kaddi> I was going to suggest the same thing in 2-3 minutes ;)
[15:58] <bazhang> kaddi, it is the caffeine :)
[15:58] <Refraxx> 73%
[15:58] <kaddi> bazhang: hehe
[15:59] <Refraxx> Bazhang-----What is a virtual machiene?
[15:59] <Refraxx> machine?*
[15:59] <bazhang> Refraxx, a file inside of your computer that runs an entire OS such as another linux distro, windows, or the like
[16:00] <bazhang> Refraxx, you can install virtualbox-ose and get an iso or windows installer disk and try it out
[16:00] <Refraxx> oh, wow. How can I aquire that?  Through synaptic?
[16:00] <bazhang> Refraxx, yep sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[16:01] <Refraxx> how much space will it take up? u know off hand?
[16:02] <bazhang> depends on the OS. for something small like PuppyLinux, a few hundred MB, to Windows, at several GB's (around 12 iirc)
[16:02] <bazhang> you will need to add yourself to the vbox users group in (users and groups) and also install the guest additions
[16:03] <Refraxx> ok, I'll have to see how much I have 2 play with b 4 I try it.
[16:03] <bazhang> indeed, if you only a small amount of ram, you may wish to try a very lightweight system
[16:03] <Refraxx> ok, it says done.....Do I now type  "exit"?
[16:04] <Refraxx> oh, wait ....it's still unpacking stuff, guess it just took a break.
[16:04] <bazhang> and configuring no doubt
[16:04] <Refraxx> lol     Yeah, that 2.
[16:06] <Refraxx> when it IS done, what will it show(most likely)
[16:06] <Refraxx> ?
[16:06] <bazhang> no activity at all
[16:06] <Refraxx> hey, I think its finally finished........
[16:07] <Refraxx> it has my name-desktop:`$[]     in it now....thats dun right?
[16:07] <bazhang> yep
[16:07] <Refraxx> type exit?
[16:08] <bazhang> or install more stuff :)
[16:08] <Refraxx> hehehe I 4got why I was here in the first place....I think I'm dun installing stuff 4 the time being.
[16:10] <bazhang> to get rid of the update icon?
[16:10] <Refraxx> I think that worked--no longer c the icon....new icon appeared, the one to restart com. Pretty sure it worked, thanks guys.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> !lol | Refraxx
[16:10] <Refraxx> If I have more issues, I'll be back in here. bye
[16:10] <BluesKaj> b4 is not a word
[16:11] <Refraxx> oh, i'm sorry, I didnt know that. thanks for telling me. I will remember for next time
[16:12] <Refraxx> question
[16:12] <Peace-> !offtopic | Peace-
[16:12] <Refraxx> What does "IRC" stand for?
[16:12] <bazhang> internet relay chat
[16:12] <kaddi> you're doing that on purpose :p
[16:13] <Refraxx> ok, I don't understand---how is that different than IM?
[16:13] <bazhang> many users in the same chat channel
[16:13] <BluesKaj> !irc
[16:13] <Refraxx> ok. Thanks guys
[16:14] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/  Refraxx check that
[16:14] <Refraxx> I will, thanx
[16:17] <Captain_Hadd0ck> Refraxx: wikipedia should have a lot of info as well.
[16:17] <owner> If i have a problem with high CPU loads when i try to open the screen settings window (that fails to open eitherway) and that i sometimes cant change my resolution for my screen. and when i can change it it stays that way untill next session. am i in the right place?
[16:18] <Refraxx> Ok captain, thank you. bye guys
[16:18] <Captain_Hadd0ck> if you're using Kubuntu, probably :)
[16:19] <owner> im not sure hadd0ck, how can i see what i'm using?
[16:22] <owner> sry but i'm new to this so i'm sry if that was a stupid question
[16:22] <Pici> owner: Do you have a menu that says: Applications, Places, System in the top right?
[16:22] <Pici> er, top Left?
[16:22] <owner> yes
[16:23] <owner> yes i have
[16:23] <Pici> owner: then you are using Gnome. It probably would be best to ask your question in #ubuntu then
[16:24] <owner> ok thx pici
[16:34] <kaddi> I would like the command firefox to start firefox-3.5, as I don't want to mess things while using sudo, could somebody please confirm, that this is the right command:ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[16:38] <Ankaku> i think that's correct.
[16:38] <kaddi> her goes :p
[16:38] <Ankaku> :D good luck
[16:38] <Ankaku> :@ mah computer is being sloooooow
[16:39]  * Ankaku Hates Windows
[16:40] <kaddi> *boom* everything explodes :P
[16:40] <Ankaku> :P XD
[16:40] <Ankaku> Did it work?
[16:41] <kaddi> yes :)
[16:41] <Ankaku> =D
[16:41] <guido_> ciao
[16:41] <Ankaku> I has question
[16:42] <Ankaku> mah laptop has 75 gb left is that enough to run a full installation of kubuntu?
[16:42] <melhisedek> Anyone have problems with num lock not being enabled at start? (I have it enabled in BIOS)
[16:42] <shivek> yes
[16:42] <shivek> Ankaku
[16:42] <Ankaku> k
[16:43] <jetfire> русские есть
[16:43] <jetfire> ?
[16:43] <Ankaku> Is there any way to dual boot w/o partitioning?
[16:43] <bazhang> jetfire, #ubuntu-ru
[16:43] <bazhang> Ankaku, wubi
[16:43] <bazhang> !wubi > Ankaku
[16:44] <Ankaku> TY very much =D
[16:44] <derek_> hiya all wonder if you could help me ive got the kubuntu
[16:44] <Peace-> Ankaku: kubuntu needs about 6 GB ... but you can install even if you have 4GB
[16:44] <derek_> the prob i have is
[16:44] <derek_> sound probs i have sound for load up and shut down
[16:45] <derek_> but the sound dont work on anarok 2.1
[16:45] <Ankaku> installation size?
[16:45] <derek_> nore does it work on anything else
[16:47] <derek_> can any one help with this please
[16:47] <derek_> how do i get the sound to work
[16:48] <shivek> hi can anyone help me run python scripts in terminal
[16:51] <Ankaku> r-click open with terminal
[16:51] <Ankaku> i think
[16:52] <shivek> it doesn't work
[16:52] <shivek> i have ubuntu not kubuntu
[16:52] <Ankaku> oh
[16:52] <Ankaku> try the ubuntu channel then
[16:53] <shivek> plase name one
[16:53] <Ankaku> i think its #ubuntu
[16:53] <Ankaku> yep
[16:53] <shivek> thank u
[16:56] <derek_> can anyone help me with sound probs please
[16:56] <derek_> anyone know any good codecs
[17:03] <del210a> hi does any one know to get the sound to work
[17:03] <del210a> it works on loadup and shutdown
[17:03] <del210a> also on testing it works
[17:04] <del210a> but not anywhere else
[17:04] <bazhang> del210a, have the codecs installed for mp3 and video?
[17:04] <bazhang> del210a, this is ubuntu or Kubuntu
[17:04] <whyty> hello every one
[17:04] <del210a> kubuntu
[17:05] <del210a> im not sure if the codecs have installed
[17:05] <bazhang> del210a, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras (from konsole) also a couple of packages from medibuntu.org you may wish-->instructions on the site
[17:06] <del210a> ok thanks will have a try
[17:06] <bazhang> del210a, the packages from medibuntu can be downloaded as .deb files and installed by double clicking (w32codecs for one)
[17:07] <del210a> ok thanks bazhang
[17:29] <davidjheinrich> hi all...
[17:30] <davidjheinrich> is there a format that I can save images to in Linux that will prevent them from being copied/printed?
[17:33] <Dragnslcr> davidjheinrich- no, because someone can always just open the image and take a screenshot
[17:37] <davidjheinrich> Dragnslcr: yea, that's true in any OS, I think
[17:37] <davidjheinrich> but I mean, at least prevent easy copying
[17:37] <davidjheinrich> as in "right click, copy
[17:37] <davidjheinrich> <although I think that some things, if you try to screenshot or print out, it just shows a white box on that image>
[17:47] <Driv3r912> Anyone know how to get this Oxygen theme in Kubuntu: http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg
[17:47] <Driv3r912> It is found in openSUSE.
[17:48] <Driv3r912> Also, here is an article about the KDE Theme, etc...: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde-4-rev-802150/0b4808abfd563da8a82a4a7a959fa010.jpg&imgrefurl=http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-4-rev-802150-work-in-progress/&usg=__PGX5cjdseiN0mfduTBPiAoZ9QrY=&h=569&w=800&sz=90&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=FhmFqDTDQGPmEM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3DOxygen%2BTheme%2BopenSUSE%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfire
[17:48] <Driv3r912> fox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
[17:53] <igor_> Hi, I was wathcing film in mplayer and it suddenly disapeared, but now I have it as "disk sleep" process and can't kill it. It also happened few times before and I wonder what can cause this problem?
[18:05] <ToreadorVampire> (installing a .deb installer) KPackageKit: Waiting for service to start "37.000 days remaining" lol
[18:15] <jimmy51_> !virtualbox
[18:17] <igor_> Hi, it seems that alsa causes some processes to hang ("disk sleep"), then I can't turn off my computer as "Shutting down ALSA naver ends"
[18:19] <igor_> It mainly happens with skype and mplayer
[18:21] <igor_> #ubuntu
[18:28] <mrunagi> anyone know why sudo modprobe -r iwl3945 locks up my pc?
[18:28] <dksoba88> hi
[18:28] <dksoba88> I'm trying to install Kradview 1.1.0 which must be compiled
[18:28] <dksoba88> so I run ./configure
[18:29] <dksoba88> and I get to this error "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[18:29] <dksoba88> I'm not sure how to tell ./configure where those libraries are or even if I have them installed
[18:30] <tonii> checkout the file then
[18:31] <dksoba88> the configure file?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> dksoba88, sometimes the readme will explain the different steps , but normally you have to cd into the app/dir to ./compile , make , make install
[18:31] <dksoba88> where are my KDE libraries installed by default?
[18:32] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: yea checked the README but no particular instructions on the KDE libraries, the ./configure make make install steps are there though
[18:36] <BluesKaj> !kdelibs
[18:37] <Guest47297> wow I don't remember anything about irc at all
[18:40] <dksoba88> !kde-libs
[18:41] <BluesKaj> !info kdelibs
[18:43] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install kdelibs says they're already installed
[18:43] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: so I think I should run ./configure --prefix=/usr/libs/kde4 but this still doesn't work
[18:43] <BluesKaj> oh yeah, they would be
[18:44] <BluesKaj> gotta have the kdelibs to run kubuntu
[18:45] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: got it, how do I tell my configure script where the kdelibs are
[18:46] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: well first of all, I suppose I'm assuming that the kdelibs directory is /usr/libs/kde4
[18:46] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: which may be wrong
[18:47] <imon__> is there any package for ubuntu
[18:47] <BluesKaj> dksoba88, the kdelibs are spread out over several dirs , not just /usr
[18:47] <imon__> like backtrack tools
[18:47] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: I see
[18:50] <BluesKaj> dksoba88, do a locate kdelibs in the terminal , you'l see what i mean
[18:51] <dksoba88> BluesKaj: err well I've got to go to class now so I'll have to continue figuring this out later but thanks for all your help so far
[18:52] <BluesKaj> np
[19:03] <Emery> how do i install themes on KDE ?
[19:03] <Emery> well kubuntu
[19:23] <Emery> how do i install themes on KDE ?
[19:23] <Emery> well kubuntu
[19:23] <treetopj> i cant get my wireless working on ubuntu is anyone willing to help
[19:29] <BluesKaj> treetopj, join #ubuntu, kubuntu desktop uses a different wifi manager
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Emery, right click on the desktop choose desktop settings
[19:30] <Emery> configure desktop ?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> Emery, which version of kubuntu are you using ?
[19:32] <Emery> kde3
[19:32] <Emery> i got rid of 4
[19:32] <Emery> and installing kde 3
[19:32] <Emery> installed*
[19:34] <BluesKaj> well, it's in system settings / appearance
[19:34] <Emery> that's the thing
[19:34] <Emery> i'm in there and cant see anywhere to change the theme
[19:36] <BluesKaj> you may need to DL new ones
[19:36] <Emery> new ones ?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> !themes
[19:36] <Emery> i hav themes downloaded
[19:36] <Emery> but i can find where to install them and activate them
[19:37] <Emery> i'm in appearance and i can't find anywhere that lets me install
[19:37] <vitor> how do I join other channels?
[19:37] <Emery> ./join #chan
[19:37] <Emery> without dot
[19:37] <vitor> thank you very much
[19:37] <Emery> np
[19:45] <DarkStar> somebody?
[19:45] <Pici> !ask
[19:46] <DarkStar> there's no koffice for kde4?
[19:48] <SSJ_GZ> DarkStar: http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/28/koffice-200-released
[19:48] <DarkStar> ty ^^
[19:49] <SSJ_GZ> np
[19:54] <Captain_Hadd0ck> Emery: if you downloaded manually, follow the instructions at the source
[19:55] <Captain_Hadd0ck> else use the theme downloader in KDE to download and automatically install
[20:05] <voip> hi
[20:06] <bastien> hey
[20:06] <bastien> il y a des francais
[20:06] <BluesKaj> !fr | bastien
[20:10] <cga> (clo
[20:12] <vincent_> slt
[20:13] <Jaller> slt
[20:14] <Jaller> ouou il y a quelqu'un
[20:15] <Jaller> !!!!!!!
[20:15] <Pici> !fr
[20:46] <CleanLaundry> I know that Kubuntu is much more visually rich then Ubuntu, and seems to run a bit slower then Ubuntu because of that reason. But is there a way to make it any faster?
[20:49] <DaskreeCH> CleanLaundry: Yes
[20:51] <keylocker> someone here develops to kde using python? (And know how can i use knotify from py?)
[20:53] <Ramblurr> is the firefox-3.5 package supposed to pull in gnome packages?
[20:53] <Ramblurr> and is there a way to prevent it
[20:54] <Ramblurr> it wants a bunch of gnome-perl packages as well as synaptic, gnome-app-install, etc
[20:58] <ubuntu> hola
[20:58] <ubuntu> hola
[20:58] <CleanLaundry> DaskreeCH, how?
[20:58] <ubuntu> hello
[20:59] <racecar56> i have to use "sudo dhclient" *every* time i want to connect to the network, what is wrong? shouldn't i have kde konnect (hahaha) automatic?
[20:59] <racecar56> aha knetworkmanager wasnt installed
[20:59] <racecar56> *doink*
[21:00] <DaskreeCH> CleanLaundry: KDE4 is a full rewrite of KDE ideas in Qt4 which is completely new. As Qt4 gets tuned and KDE4 starts to optimize it will get leaner and faster
[21:00] <racecar56> i like KDE4 already
[21:00] <racecar56> it's good enough and i was a KDE3 fan
[21:01] <racecar56> i used KDE 3.3 on my first linux ever used, xandros desktop 3
[21:01] <DaskreeCH> Ramblurr: --no-reccomends ?
[21:01] <CleanLaundry> DaskreeCH, I see
[21:01] <pedro> KDE very cool!
[21:01] <DaskreeCH> CleanLaundry: You can also look at KDE servces you are not using currently like akonadi or Nepomuk and turn them off
[21:01] <racecar56> and now im a linux fan :D
[21:02] <racecar56> me so happy i find linux, it works so great
[21:02] <pedro> linux fan!!! ha ha
[21:02] <CleanLaundry> DaskreeCH, how do I do that, and how do I know which services will be ok to cut without hurting the system
[21:02] <racecar56> it runs on my comp very nicely
[21:02] <racecar56> and i got one of them quad cores >:D
[21:03] <pedro> with atom asus eee pc 1000h is great
[21:03] <racecar56> anyone here got one of them AMD 6-cores?
[21:03] <DaskreeCH> CleanLaundry: Well outside of kded, qdbus or  kinit You can turn off all of them :) Just you will lose the associated functionality :)
[21:04] <DaskreeCH> CleanLaundry: Also if you are low on RAM you can probably turn off compositing.
[21:05] <pedro> good luck
[21:05] <CleanLaundry> DaskreeCH, ok great thanks
[21:05] <davide_> naaaaa
[21:07] <pedro> orion
[21:09] <pedro>  /(:)//"""""""""""=//est;/(command):closeprogram/"""""""»»"\\\end:
[21:09] <calamari> hi
[21:10] <pedro> hi
[21:12] <calamari> for some reason image thumbnails aren't being displayed in konqueror.  I am wondering if I am missing a package, or if my settings are just wrong?
[21:13] <DaskreeCH> calamari: In what context?
[21:13] <calamari> DaskreeCH, folder view of files
[21:14] <calamari> (not a web page)
[21:14] <DarkStar> cya guys, ty 4 all =]
[21:19] <iskald> sup guys ?
[21:21] <iskald> no ?
[21:26] <DaskreeCH> !hi | iskald
[21:32] <cF`Zuz|Work> amazing os
[21:32] <iskald> I know
[21:32] <krittika> @bookz
[21:32] <cF`Zuz|Work> i was just wondering if the ubuntu software is also compatible with kubuntu
[21:32] <dabbler> anybody got Ubuntuone functioning under Kubuntu - KDE 4.2.4
[21:33] <DaskreeCH> cF`Zuz|Work: It is
[21:33] <dabbler> IOW will it install?
[21:33] <cF`Zuz|Work> sweet
[21:33] <krittika> !bookz
[21:34] <DaskreeCH> krittika: What are you looking for?
[21:34] <krittika> i got what i was looking for thanks
[21:34] <cF`Zuz|Work> ive always wantd to really install the os but never had a spare pc or a space partition till my cousin decided to throw her 2 year old laptop because her HD died...
[21:35] <cF`Zuz|Work> always played around with the cd
[21:35] <DaskreeCH> cF`Zuz|Work: Well welcome :)
[21:35] <cF`Zuz|Work> now im trying to figure out how to find the software and how to upgrade the hardware
[21:35] <cF`Zuz|Work> i know
[21:35] <cF`Zuz|Work> the devs are amazing
[21:36] <cF`Zuz|Work> should i worry about viruses?
[21:37] <DaskreeCH> !virus | cF`Zuz|Work
[21:38] <cF`Zuz|Work> thanks again daskreeCH
[21:39] <cF`Zuz|Work> are you in the dev team?
[21:39] <DaskreeCH> Not officially
[21:43] <Daemon> ason y kubuntu would not install on a dell optiplexgx260 petium 4 with 512 mb ram
[21:44] <DaskreeCH> Would be hard to say without an explantion as to how it does not install
[21:45] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: it starts to load and then hangs up about a 1/4 of the way through
[21:46] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: As in the CD booting up?
[21:46] <orion_> help -> Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme) ?
[21:46] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: yes
[21:46] <Zorael^2> How do I login as another user in Konsole?
[21:47] <tonii> deffectic CD/DVD or broken cd/dvd-rom drive.
[21:47] <tonii> Zorael: "su user"
[21:47] <Zorael^2> tonii: Thanks
[21:47] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: well it boots to the main screen then when I choose an option to boot it starts then hangs up
[21:48] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: the progress bar just stops
[21:49] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: Did you try the safe graphics mode ?
[21:49] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: sure would hate to have to put xp back on itewwwwww
[21:50] <DaskreeCH> orion_: Hmm ?
[21:50] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: no i didnt ill go try now brb
[21:50] <DaskreeCH> I'm always really impressed that people who can't get the CD working find this channel :)
[21:50] <orion_> DaskreeCH, 0_0
[21:51] <DaskreeCH> orion_: Some context for that message please
[21:55] <racecar56> haha i forgot i was still here
[21:55] <racecar56> got to go
[21:56] <Zuz|Kubuntu> ok logged on
[21:57] <Zuz|Kubuntu> is there some program that checks hardware for updates?
[21:57] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: weird it still hangs in safe mode too
[21:58] <DaskreeCH> Zuz|Kubuntu: It's kinda hard to upgrade your hardware over the net :)
[21:59] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: Umm lets try a quick check. When it boots up at the first menu press F6 and remove the word quiet then press enter. It should boot and tell you a whole lotta stuff. See what's the last thing before it dies
[22:00] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: ok brb
[22:01] <cF`Zuz|Work> daskreech so no program that checks for it?
[22:01] <cF`Zuz|Work> i looked at the device manager software and showed a few unknown devices
[22:02] <cF`Zuz|Work> i wanted to update the drivers because i might connect the laptop to the tv(if i find a way)
[22:02] <DaskreeCH> cF`Zuz|Work: Try Kmenu -> system -> hardware drivers
[22:02] <[Relic[> how does one mounta disk in the live-cd 7.04 version  (all I had handy to try to recover info from a computer)
[22:03] <DaskreeCH> [Relic[: mount /dev/device /path/to/directory
[22:03] <noaXess> !kdewebdev
[22:03] <noaXess> !info kdewebdev
[22:03] <[Relic[> thanks
[22:04] <noaXess> does anybody know about quanta plus for kde 4.x?
[22:05] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: do not see the word quit anywere wheni press f6
[22:05] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: Quiet
[22:06] <DaskreeCH> quiet splash --
[22:06] <DaskreeCH> take out quiet
[22:07] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: sry spelling
[22:07] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: were should i see quiet at when i press f6 it says naopic
[22:08] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: Ummm ok lets choose noapic for kicks :)
[22:08] <DaskreeCH> That's a common reason the CD won't boot might as well try it
[22:12] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i did the system -> hardware drivers thing, just the wireless showed up, but i wanted to know if there was something to check for the video, sound etc...
[22:12] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i can find it
[22:12] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i guess im just excited
[22:14] <DaskreeCH> Zuz|Kubuntu:  :-) That's part of the normal updates. It will update that with the rest of your software in one go
[22:14] <Zuz|Kubuntu> great
[22:15] <Zuz|Kubuntu> now in terms of preferences, do you use kpackagekit or adept for  updates?
[22:16] <DaskreeCH> apt-get but I'd say use kpackagekit
[22:16] <Zuz|Kubuntu> yeah i tried to find where i type the apt-get stuff but i gave up for a bit
[22:16] <DaskreeCH> It's less umm adept than Adept but has more of a future so if you want to beat on it and voice what doesn't work for you it will get fixed
[22:17] <DaskreeCH> Zuz|Kubuntu: Konsole is a good bet
[22:18] <akSeya> hi there...
[22:18] <Zuz|Kubuntu> this laptop seems faster
[22:18] <Zuz|Kubuntu> then when it had windows
[22:19] <Zuz|Kubuntu> hello
[22:19] <akSeya> guys.. i have kppp configured properly, every time I open it, it asks my user password...
[22:19] <DaskreeCH> Zuz|Kubuntu: quite possible Widows gets bogged down very easily
[22:19] <akSeya> is there a way to bypass this?
[22:19] <DaskreeCH> akSeya: mebbe
[22:20] <DaskreeCH> I'm assuming it's using kdesudo which means if you set up a nopasswd in sudo it won't You can pretty easily google that
[22:20] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i heard that amarok  is the best player out there, i cant wait to try it
[22:21] <akSeya> hum.. thanks for the top DaskreeCH
[22:21] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: ok deleted quiet and it ran script now how do i know what that script means
[22:22] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: It's the same script as before it's just telling what it does now. If it stopped what did it stop at ?
[22:24] <Daemon> DaskreeCH: segfault error 4 in init
[22:25] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: !!
[22:25] <DaskreeCH> Daemon: oook well then choose CD check on the main menu I think something has corrupted the CD
[22:25] <DaskreeCH> If that passes then someone will have to take a deeper look. I'll probably be gone by then
[22:26] <senorpedro> is there a good music player that has last.fm integration and is not amarok?
[22:28] <DaskreeCH> Songbird?
[22:29] <senorpedro> no thats crap too
[22:29] <senorpedro> i need something in qt
[22:29] <Captain_Haddock> senorpedro: I'm pretty sure vlc has a last.fm option.
[22:29] <Captain_Haddock> and it's in qt
[22:29] <senorpedro> sure? i always thought it is gtk
[22:30] <Captain_Haddock> senorpedro: it was, yes
[22:30] <drvoodoo> that's right, vlc uses QT now
[22:30] <senorpedro> they ported to qt?
[22:31] <senorpedro> hm it looks different than the other kde apps....is this the statically linked stuff (like e.g. opera) ?
[22:33] <DaskreeCH> senorpedro: Yep the whole thing
[22:33] <DaskreeCH> I would guess it's static VLC seems to prefer that overall
[22:35] <senorpedro> so why did they statically link it?
[22:36] <senorpedro> it doesnt fit into my desktop's look n feel
[22:36] <senorpedro> omg vlc takes 67mb of ram.......why so much?
[22:39] <Captain_Haddock> it's skinnable
[22:39] <ign0ramus> VLC is qt in both Windows and in Linux (not sure about OS X)
[22:39] <Captain_Haddock> There might be a compile flag to avoid the static linking; not sure.
[22:43] <Zuz|Kubuntu> does the kde wallet comes with kubuntu or did i install it?
[22:45] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, it is a part of a Kubuntu install, but you can configure it in System Settings
[22:45] <Captain_Haddock> it's a bloody pita :S
[22:46] <Zuz|Kubuntu> should i have it on?
[22:46] <Zuz|Kubuntu> ignoramus
[22:46] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, that's up to you
[22:46] <Captain_Haddock> if you're not annoyed by its prompts, yes.
[22:46] <ign0ramus> !kwallet | Zuz|Kubuntu
[22:46] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i was just looking at it near the sound and what it looks like open programs near the clock and i saw the wallet
[22:48] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, i believe default behavior is for the wallet to close after 5 minutes of inactivity, but i might be wrong (I personally disable it)
[22:49] <Zuz|Kubuntu> thanks, i just did too
[22:49] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i got my pw's memorized
[22:49] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, alternatively, you can just set it not to show up in System Tray if that's what's bothering you :)
[22:50] <custom_> hi all...what version of kde does karmic use?
[22:50] <Zuz|Kubuntu> thanks
[22:52] <Zuz|Kubuntu> any big advantages on having different desktops?
[22:52] <ign0ramus> custom_, don't know (not supported in this channel), but I would imagine 4.3RC 1
[22:52] <custom_> ok - thanks
[22:52] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, if you work with many apps open or have a smaller display (like a netbook), they can help you stay organized
[22:53] <Zuz|Kubuntu> do they help in terms of memory management?
[22:53] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, no.
[22:53] <Zuz|Kubuntu> i remember seeing them when i did some software testing with redhat but that was a loooong time ago
[22:54] <ign0ramus> Zuz|Kubuntu, with dual monitor setups being all the rage, it's a good way to multitask (I guess... another feature I don't really use) :)
[22:54] <Zuz|Kubuntu> :)
[23:07] <strife25> hi i recently applied some updates and none of my tasks are showing up on the task bar. has anyone else run into this problem?
[23:08] <DaskreeCH> strife25: tried logging out and pressing alt+e then logging back in?
[23:08] <kde-devel> Is it possible to install karmic release trhough internet, via jaunty?
[23:09] <strife25> ok, will try that
[23:10] <strife25> my other question is that i am unable to have my videos go fullscreen in KDE. if i make dragon player go full screen, the last frame displays at the size it originally was and the rest of the screen is black
[23:11] <strife25> this problem oddly fixes itself when this error appears out of no where saying something along the lines of "KDE is unable to do compositing right now, please restart...", the main detail there being KDE + compositing
[23:28] <JuJuBee> Im running kde 4.3 rc1 and my task manager is not showing running apps. I encounterd this last week and forget what I did to fix.
[23:33] <KrispyKreme> what's a good app to clear all cookies/web browsing/etc on kubuntu?
[23:36] <KrispyKreme> one more question. I am currently dual booting windows xp pro and kubuntu 9.04. when I load windows xp and delete something on that partition, it never gets deleted when I reboot and boot that partition up again. What is an explanation for that?
[23:48] <seevee> install flash for firefox?
[23:51] <seevee> Can I use apt-get instead of adept manager?
[23:52] <seevee> Adept manager keeps crashing.
[23:59] <seevee> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree --- gives "download done. Flash Plugin installed." Flash sites still tell me to download the latest flash plugin.
[23:59] <seevee> Help?