[00:00] * BUGabundo there goes U1 [00:00] BUGabundo: what server do you use? I just upgraded U1 fine from archive.ubuntu.com [00:00] yofel: PPA ? [00:01] is there another ? [00:01] ... forgot that u1 was a ppa... [00:02] but anyway, I got: [00:02] *** 0.90.3+r64-0ubuntu1~ppa1~karmic 0 [00:02] 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages [00:02] so now I have 3 commands to run to check for updates... thanks so much Sarvatt /sarcasm [00:02] if anything purge ubuntuone-client and reinstall it with the karmic version after === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [00:02] you need to let it remove fast-user-switch-applet to upgrade GDM, and get ready for X to stop in the middle of the GDM upgrade [00:03] ubuntuone-client-gnome: Candidate: 0.90.3+r64-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty [00:03] ubuntuone-client: Installed: 0.90.3+r66-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty [00:03] just control-alt-f1 then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and let it do everything and reboot [00:03] Sarvatt: shouldn't have gdm ubuntu3 fixed that? [00:03] went fine [00:03] I'm still here after GDM upgrade [00:03] yeah it did but only for future upgrades [00:03] ahh ok so its just upgrading from 2.26 0ubuntu1 or 0ubuntu2 that stops it [00:03] Sarvatt: he still had the *old* gdm installed [00:03] seems so [00:04] once again, saved by aptitude [00:04] :)) [00:04] Sarvatt: exactly, the posrm scripts kill gdm there :( [00:04] darn it. another reboot required [00:04] can't beat a one day uptime now :( [00:04] theres another kernel coming soon :D [00:05] Sarvatt: why that? [00:05] 2.6.31-2.16 fixing up a dm-raid problem in 2.15 [00:05] should be fixing gspca problems [00:05] :) [00:06] could always use jaunty if a breakage like that is that big a deal :D [00:06] or the .30 kernel [00:06] i'd like to know what change from .30 to .31 that killed webcams [00:07] or talk to upstream [00:07] i think its a udev or usb-utils problem, i'm getting errors for usb in general flooding my dmesg [00:07] [15250.140159] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 99 [00:07] [15250.552132] usb 4-1: device not accepting address 99, error -71 [00:07] [15250.552181] hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 [00:15] any one noticing huge slow downs on youtube videos on fullscreen? Firefox 3.6, flash 64bits [00:15] works ok on regular size window [00:18] BUGabundo: I've noticed a big speed up when reinstalled system and installed 32 bit by mistake ;) [00:19] LOLOLOLOL [00:21] yofel: Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main ubuntuone-client-gnome 0.90.3+r66-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty [101kB] [00:21] got it from the nigtly PPA [00:22] switch your sources from jaunty to karmic... [00:22] Anyone here versed in python-fu to whom the traceback at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209893/ makes any sense? [00:22] Sarvatt: U1 ppl say not ready [00:22] Zorael^2: looks like apt's api has changed [00:22] kklimonda: I keep getting "wfm" responses about it though [00:23] Zorael^2: from other people who use KK (or the same distro you do?) [00:23] ? [00:23] Zorael is envy still active as a stand alone? [00:23] though it was integreated into jokey [00:24] kklimonda: from BUGabundo and this channel, so supposedly the same [00:24] BUGabundo: Huh, it was? [00:24] me !?!? [00:24] oyes. :3 [00:24] [Sat Jul 4 2009] [18:41:47] Zorael^2: wfm [00:25] Zorael^2: what version of python-apt do you have? [00:25] Sarvatt: oh look there's a karmic u1 after all [00:26] kklimonda: The one in karmic main, 0.7.10.4ubuntu1 [00:26] BUGabundo: the ubuntuone-client from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/nightlies/ubuntu karmic main works fine for me [00:27] Zorael^2: it can't work with python-apt and envy-core from KK - I've just checked sources [00:27] karmics libs are so different from jaunty, i'm surprised the jaunty one works :D [00:28] kklimonda: okay, thanks. :> [00:28] Zorael^2: python-apt 0.7.10 has broken an API [00:29] Zorael^2: and envy-core (at least the version from KK) wasn't ported yet [00:54] good night folks [00:55] bye yofel === zorael__ is now known as Zorael [01:08] odd... I seem to have TWO instances of notify-osd running. [01:08] And one of them... is really tiny. [01:09] lol [01:09] One seems to be running from the login screen. [01:09] Runs as user 'gdm' [01:10] And only the network notifications appear in it. [01:13] hi everyone [01:13] oh yeah, but on the plus side, I've tweaked it so I can use my volume hotkeys at the login screen. [01:13] I have a recovery partiion in which I want to put the ubuntu install disk...is there a howto to do that? [01:14] "unetbootin" is one good option. [01:14] m_tadeu: sure! delete it and isntall there? [01:14] It's a googleable term. [01:18] thanks....I'm on it [01:25] * BUGabundo $ do radom_pool (bath;sleep;breakfast;work); [01:27] BUGabundo: whats up with your quit messages haha [01:27] billybigrig: sleep deprevived makes typos [01:27] :) [01:27] gone [01:27] should the partition have a specific type? or it can be ext3? [01:28] m_tadeu: should sufice [01:39] howcome I was able to boot from a karmic64 in an intel core duo? [01:43] m_tadeu: Because your core duo is really a core duo 2 and hense supports x86-64? [01:45] RAOF: I didn't know about that feature [01:46] All intel processors for the last 5 years or so have supported x86-64. Now there's the exception of some Atom processors though, I think. [01:46] tought they all had 32bit registers [01:47] In IA32 mode, yes. Long mode is an x86-64 extension to IA32. [01:47] cool :) [01:48] Sorry; what I _actually_ meant there is... "in protected mode, yes". Long mode is an extension in the same way protected mode was an extension to real mode. [01:49] I see :) [01:52] now....I used unetbootin to set my recovery partition with karmic....when I press f11 I get "Boot error"...where can I check for problems? [01:58] hey hey what's going on today? [03:07] hmm [03:07] anyone here by chance have a working scanner with xsane? [04:02] dtchen: updated my bug comments. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 [04:02] Ubuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New] [04:03] Anyone know of a package to pull in the acmkdir tool? [04:16] I can't find it anywhere. Even in the debian pdo. It is part of the gnu autotoolset (included in source tarbell) [04:59] hello [04:59] is gdm autologin no longer possible in Ubuntu 9.10? [05:11] Take a look at /etc/gdm/custom.conf perhaps. [05:11] how long was that guy here? [05:11] 8:58 to 9:06. [06:21] hi, there is no Screen Resolution under Prefs in 9.10? How do I fixed misaligned screen? thx [06:21] <|ns|nR8> what type of videocard do you have [06:22] <|ns|nR8> nvidia ? [06:22] nvidia 8400gs [06:22] <|ns|nR8> have you installed the nvidia driver ? [06:22] yeah nvidia-glx-180 [06:22] <|ns|nR8> enabled it in hardware ? [06:22] YEP [06:23] :) sorry caps [06:23] <|ns|nR8> ok..how i adjust the resolution is install nvidia-settings [06:23] <|ns|nR8> and run that [06:23] i looked through that before but cant see how to adjust a misaligned screen [06:24] i can change resolution, sure, but it's already on 1920x1080 [06:24] <|ns|nR8> LCD? [06:24] <|ns|nR8> ah ok [06:24] yeah [06:25] i cant see edges of my screen (all four edges get cut off) [06:25] <|ns|nR8> can the refresh rate be adjusted ? [06:25] <|ns|nR8> or is its max 60 [06:25] 60 [06:26] it gives me 60,50,30,25,24 but i dont think i want less than 60 [06:26] <|ns|nR8> um [06:26] if you have an lcd your referesh rate is meaningless [06:26] you want the video device and the monitor to be synced [06:27] aside from that it doesn't matter [06:27] otherwise you will get tearing [06:27] on windows it only gives option of 60 so i dont think my monitor even supports the others [06:27] anyway, any idea how to align screen? [06:27] 60 is fine [06:28] in 9.04 i think i could do it in Prefs->Screen Resolution [06:28] <|ns|nR8> its in pref, display [06:28] <|ns|nR8> on 9.04 [06:29] oh ok, well it doesnt offer any help either :( but it said my LCD screen was 7 inch before :P [06:29] <|ns|nR8> thats a nice resolution for 7 inch screen [06:29] <|ns|nR8> hehe [06:30] not sure you would be able to read much :) [06:31] it says Dimensions: 1920x1080 (160x90 millimeters) 305DPI [06:31] in nvidia-settings [06:31] your lucky :) [06:31] why? [06:31] i would like a 305dpi screen [06:31] <|ns|nR8> so maybe yu need to set correct monitor type [06:31] i dont have a 305dpi screen, do you think that's why it didnt align properly? [06:31] my screen is 32" [06:35] could i use xrandr? [06:36] xsacha-tv: you can try. This is ubuntu+1 so your not guaranteed that it will actually work. [06:36] :) [06:36] also did you say that you were using an nvidia card ? [06:36] yes [06:37] if so are you using the binary driver ? because nvidia may not have updated it to handle the new Xorg. I don't have an nvidia card so they may have [06:37] mm im using glx-180. i tried the opensource driver and it has same issue [06:38] the opensource nvidia stuff isn't really that good either so i wouldn't use that as a benchmark [06:38] does it work in jaunty ? [06:38] * DanaG has 147DPI... it's nice. [06:38] havent tried [06:39] it worked in another linux distro though (chakra) [06:42] hmm ill go searching for an auto button somewhere in my tvs maze of menus :P [06:47] nup, none :( [06:54] xsacha-tv: you might be better off with a stable distro or something like chakra which is a rolling release [06:54] if you really want to live on the edge [06:59] mase_work, alright :( [06:59] but i dont think you can align screen in any ubuntu distro? [07:00] might be a good idea for future to put aligner in the Prefs->Display [07:00] align screen ? i am not really having any issues with my screens so i am not entirely sure what you mean [07:00] i have a pretty basic [---][--] setup [07:01] i've had this problem before on other monitors but i was just able to press the Auto adjust button. this tv doesnt have an adjust option [07:01] k, not really sure sorry [07:02] i tried to find solution on google but it seems there is none (or maybe xrandr?). problem since 2005: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21583 [07:02] 2006: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-238779.html they just suggest Auto button on monitor :( [07:03] yeh dunno sorry. i can't say i have encountered that [07:03] k [07:12] oh yeah, nvidia lies about refresh rates. [07:13] hey DanaG :) [07:14] whaa? [07:18] xvidtune says my modeline is: "1920x1080" 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync but it doesnt let me adjust cause it cant query monitor [07:18] anyone know of a evernote app for linux? [07:26] anyone else having the issue where when you restart it just restarts and doesnt even bring up the grub count down so you can hit esc to choose which kernel you want to use [07:31] just when I was going to tell xsacha the solution for alignment === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [10:07] <|ns|nR8> i installed 9.10 but it didnt add my windows installations to grub [10:09] !pulse-audio [10:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about pulse-audio [10:09] !pulse [10:09] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [10:10] how do i know the version of pulse audio in karmic [10:10] ? [10:10] !info pulseaudio karmic [10:10] pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.15-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 540 kB, installed size 3432 kB [10:10] ^ [10:23] thx [10:26] good morning folks [11:18] Hey. Anyone else having problems with xorg after restoring from suspend? gdm works fine but after being logged it's a "dark layer" (looks like very low brightness) but VTY:s still works normally and killing and restarting Xorg solves the problem [11:58] |ns|nR8, you still alive? [11:58] <|ns|nR8> yep [11:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Dual-booting [11:59] <|ns|nR8> its k i figured it out thanks [12:00] <|ns|nR8> ubuntu just restarted with volume on flat out...got welcome tune 1000watts rms plus [12:00] <|ns|nR8> im still shaking [12:01] <|ns|nR8> thats gotta a bug [12:02] i have a problem similar [12:03] everytime a new video file i have queued plays, like a playlist in vlc, the audio is cranked max each time a new item in the playlist starts [12:05] <|ns|nR8> im getting an error about gdm simple greeter [12:05] <|ns|nR8> at each boot now [12:05] yes me to [12:05] <|ns|nR8> after updating [12:06] <|ns|nR8> prolly be fixed after a few more updates [12:06] <|ns|nR8> cool wasnt just me [12:07] /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow and delete the metacity file. [12:08] <|ns|nR8> that fixes it ? or just removes the error ? [12:09] not sure, i think it fixes it [12:09] <|ns|nR8> has your username in top right got the red square ? [12:09] <|ns|nR8> mine hasnt [12:11] a red square? no mine doesn't [12:11] <|ns|nR8> it hasnt got shutdown/restart in top right click menu [12:11] <|ns|nR8> thats annoying [12:14] its in system [12:14] <|ns|nR8> yeah i noticed [12:14] fast user switching applet has been removed recently [12:15] <|ns|nR8> know why ? [12:15] something to do with the new gdm i think [12:16] <|ns|nR8> ah k [12:16] doesn't support it or something i can't remember why [12:16] <|ns|nR8> spose i can live with out it for awhile [12:17] i remember someone saying it was going to make its way back soon, so it's temporary [12:17] but i'm not %100 on that [12:17] <|ns|nR8> cool [12:18] <|ns|nR8> its not remember authentication on montable drives either [12:18] <|ns|nR8> spose i can live with that aswell [12:20] <|ns|nR8> hmm [12:20] <|ns|nR8> my wireless aint working now [12:20] <|ns|nR8> after updating either [12:20] <|ns|nR8> bloody hell [12:21] <|ns|nR8> alright..this is a bit too buggy for my liking [12:23] haha welcome to +` [12:23] err [12:23] +1 even [12:23] <|ns|nR8> haha [12:23] <|ns|nR8> its always too buggy till at least beta [12:24] <|ns|nR8> thought id try my luck again [12:24] i haven't had any showstopper bugs in A2 [12:24] webcam doesn't work, and videos are being set with hue -1000 [12:26] I see [12:29] Anyone having problems with 9.10 ? [12:29] gdm is broken and will be that way for a while [12:30] Emery: that maybe where your problems are [12:30] haha Greaaaaaaaat [12:30] define "broken" [12:31] Emery: different for everyone but after talking with one of the core devs he said until gnome fixes it it is broken [12:31] that tells me nothing though.. [12:33] Emery: Emery i cant tell you what problems you are seeing but gdm is pretty much broken until upstream gnome fix it [12:33] I'm in the process of upgrading [12:33] I'm sure it's fixable [12:34] Emery: the devs cant fix it i highly doubt a user can [12:34] Emery: if it was fixable i would have fixed mine already [12:34] who says you have to use gdm [12:34] you can use any dm and access gnome [12:35] Emery: i didnt say gnome was broken i said gdm is broken [12:35] i never said it was [12:36] you said you dont have to use gdm. i said gdm is broken so changing to say xdm or kdm or what not they are not broken [12:36] yeah so i'm going to use those === mdeslaur_ is now known as mdeslaur === osihuh is now known as virtuald [13:09] Hello. I don't have sound on random boots. [13:09] But then, if I reboot it is solved. [13:09] Now is a boot in which I don't have sound. [13:09] So, it could be an opportunity to find out what goes wrong. [13:10] Any commands or actions generally, I should do, to see what's wrong? [13:10] Thanks, in advance. [13:10] alsa-conf ? [13:11] Emery: I have pulsedauio everywhere in my System->Preferences->Sound [13:11] have you tried alsa ? [13:11] have you looked at pavucontrol? [13:12] Emery: in previous ubuntu versions [13:12] try alsa [13:12] Emery: ok [13:12] or check your pulse audio control sliders [13:12] pavucontrol [13:12] billybigrigger: how can I do that? [13:12] :) [13:12] ok [13:12] he said when he boots it's sometimes not working [13:13] wont be because the sound is off [13:13] Emery: I 'll do a pavucontrol and if it fails I 'll fall back to alsa. [13:13] ahh misread [13:13] Emery: oh, you say it is a pulseaudio bug? [13:13] no billybigrigger misheard i was correcting him [13:14] why should I change to alsa, is pulseaudio buggy? [13:14] seems to work ok this cycle for me :P [13:14] well it's not working for you... i'm not saying you should .. just try it [13:14] might work for you [13:15] i've never had sound problems [13:15] I set ALSA in preferences->sound clicked test, it didn't make a sound and it froze [13:15] * freezed [13:15] configure alsa [13:15] ok, any way I can kill the window? :P [13:16] alsa-driver [13:16] alsa-lib [13:16] alsa-utils [13:16] install those [13:16] ok [13:16] then i think it's ... alsa-conf [13:16] can't remmeber the command [13:16] how can I kill the sound preferences window that it frize? [13:16] * freezed :P [13:16] froze* [13:17] lol [13:17] open terminal [13:17] froze, ok :P [13:17] ps -a [13:17] kill -9 pid [13:17] $ kill -9 pid [13:17] bash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs [13:17] oh, ok [13:17] amikrop: it should be gnome-sound-properties so: killall -s 9 gnome-sound-properties [13:17] amikrop, [13:17] pid number [13:17] not pid [13:17] lol [13:18] ok :P [13:18] yofel: thanks, it worked :) [13:18] ok, I will try alsa, then. hmm, it's quite complicated, oss, alsa, pulseaudio... [13:18] amikrop, remember the commands i told you [13:18] will come in handy [13:19] they're all 3 installed and available and they all have different configuration and tools :S [13:19] (the 3 sound systems) [13:19] will Karmic have only 1 available and fully supported? [13:19] I mean the final Karmic [13:19] hm, wasn't pulseaudio only a mixer that used alsa for hardware-access ? [13:19] in terminal [13:19] alsaconf [13:24] Emery: $ alsaconf [13:24] bash: alsaconf: command not found [13:24] Emery: $ alsamixer [13:24] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [13:25] http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install [13:26] Emery: ok, alsamixer worked with sudo, but it all seems OK [13:27] it seems configured, volumes are in high levels [13:27] amikrop what does pavucontrol say? [13:29] tried Sound Preferences, "Test" with ALSA, but didn't work, again [13:29] yofel: I am installing it now [13:29] amikrop, if you get it working post how on the forums [13:29] bound to be other people with the problem [13:29] ok [13:29] =] [13:29] hmm, I ran pavucontrol [13:29] iirc when I used alsa in jaunty I had to remove pulseaudio first, but pulse should work [13:30] pavucontrol looks ok [13:31] amikrop: you could try to run pulseaudio as a system deamon, see /etc/default/pulseaudio [13:31] amikrop, play with the volume sliders [13:31] yofel: E: pid.c: Daemon already running. [13:31] billybigrigger: they are in high level [13:31] yea [13:31] bring them down and up [13:32] i guess bugabundo says it works for him sometimes [13:32] i think he needs to lay off the pipe personally. but.... [13:32] haha don't tell him that [13:32] peace pipe [13:32] :P [13:32] I use pulse as a system deamon here and it work flawless [13:33] yofel: me too, apart from some boots :P [13:34] you know, especially when I remove the wire that connects my laptop to the speakers [13:34] and reboot [13:34] then it might not work [13:34] but a reboot fixes it [13:34] or I change my speakers with others [13:35] it seems it wants a reboot to recognize the new situation [13:35] something like that [13:35] o.O [13:35] what kernel just out of curiosity? [13:35] 2.6.28-11-generic [13:36] wow [13:36] what? :P [13:36] you know we're testing 2.6.31-2 right now? [13:36] no [13:36] not saying that is your problem [13:36] but... [13:36] :P [13:36] :) [13:36] fyi [13:36] ok ;) [13:37] maybe you should update your system? [13:37] maybe ;) [13:37] let's see if a reboot fixes it this time [13:38] hm, that reminds me that I should clean up my system... I've got like 13 kernels installed... [13:38] i cleaned out a bunch of kernels yesterday :P [13:41] so, got rid of everything except 30-10 and 31-2 :) [13:52] i think im gonna do a fresh install today [13:53] i afraid haha [13:55] i'm still upgrading to 9.10 37 mins remaining [14:08] me too I think, I want my dead keys back :( [14:25] can someone confirm bug 384582 ? [14:25] Launchpad bug 384582 in vlc "vlc-1.0.0~rc2: Wallpaper is shown when compiz enabled, fullscreen and moving mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384582 [14:30] nope [14:30] fullscreen playing a video [14:30] moving my mouse does not show background [14:30] vlc: [14:30] Installed: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu1 [14:30] Candidate: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu1 [14:31] nope, works fine here as well [14:31] c_korn: what graphic driver? [14:32] nvidia-glx-180: [14:32] Installed: 185.18.14-0ubuntu3 [14:32] Candidate: 185.18.14-0ubuntu3 [14:32] I remember to have that with some early version of nvidia 180, like <180.44 but now it works fine [14:35] I use nvidia 185.18.14 drivers [14:37] c_korn: which card? [14:37] <|ns|nR8> VLC 1.0 is out [14:37] cool XD [14:39] nvidia nvs quadro 140m [14:39] what's new about vlc 1? [14:40] c_korn: ok... thats the same as me o.O [14:40] :P [14:40] do you also have the same drivers installed? [14:40] yes [14:41] the ones from nvidia? [14:41] the ones from the repository [14:41] Installed: 185.18.14-0ubuntu3 [14:41] <|ns|nR8> new features listed on http://www.videolan.org/ [14:42] c_korn: what kernel do you use? the one from nvidia shouldn't work with 2.6.31 yet iirc [14:46] yofel: it does here for 173 drivers since they are borked in repos [14:46] just have to rebuild them when running .run file [14:47] 185.18.14 works fine with 2.6.31-2 [14:48] billybigrigger: the one from the repos with the .31 patch yes, but the one from nvidia? [14:48] 173 should be only broken one atm since it has moved to legacy [14:48] yofel, ahh i getcha [14:48] i don't use nvidia.com's [14:48] billybigrigger: me neither, if anything the x-swat ppa is enough [14:49] gnomefreak, is it the greeter that is broken in the gdm ? [14:50] huh? what's broken in gdm? (except the missing gdmsetup) [14:50] Emery: no well not sure if it is i dont have it enabled. but gdm is broken gdm for this topic meaning gnome [14:50] gdm will restart during its upgrade [14:50] yofel, weres the link to xswat? i should check it out [14:50] i'm not sure gnomefreak said it was .. yet it works fine for me [14:50] Pici: few other issues but that was as of last night when i pinged pitti about it [14:51] billybigrigger: give me a moment, but right now the driver from the karmic repos is the newest [14:51] yofel, nevermind then :P [14:51] billybigrigger: for future reference: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates [14:51] gnomefreak: ah, I was just referring to the email that pitti sent to ubuntu-devel-announce [14:52] i disabled logs a while ago so i dont have it handy [14:52] !logs [14:52] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [14:53] Pici: yeah, but that should be fixed now since ubuntu3 [14:54]