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Arimalthat was it00:04
Arimalfrostwire deb was malformed00:04
Arimalthanks for taking the time to answer my questions00:04
Arimal:)00:04
popeydirecthex: oooooooo00:19
directhexhiya popey! \o/00:20
ajmitchpopey: you saw the bacon?00:20
popeyoh yus00:20
directhexriddles taste better with baconnaise00:20
popeyisnt that a nice thing to go to bed on00:23
ajmitchon bacon?00:24
ajmitchwhat an uncomfortable way to sleep00:24
popeytasty bed00:24
popeyif sticky00:24
jumentoushi, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/+spec/mid-jaunty-launcher mentions updates newer than the packaged release, i haven't had much experience with launchpad - will it mention somewhere where this repo is held/04:43
persiajumentous, Generally, if the spec is to do something beyond the archive, the specific location is mentioned in the spec.04:44
persiaIn the case of that specific spec, the work was never done, and kourou is unlikely to be in any flavour by default for karmic.04:45
jumentousi know, unfortunately i'm stuck with it for the time being04:47
jumentousi read completed by, date and release notes as a completed spec04:47
jumentousobviously they are not04:47
jumentousthanks04:47
jumentouspersia, i see you are linked to mer also, is there a similar more complete launcher than kourou? mer seems to have scrapped launching from home window altogether though things such as adding a background are obviously possible in maemo04:50
persiaheh.  I'm not really a fan of launching from the home window.  If one must do that, kourou seems a pleasant implementation.04:51
persiaIf you'd like to improve kourou, I suspect upstream would welcome an interested contributor.04:52
jumentousok, unfortunately need an iphone-esk icon launching interface04:52
persiaSo you need something completely new?04:53
persia(and this is mildly off-topic here: #ubuntu-mobile might be a better forum)04:53
jumentousmoved04:53
porthosepersia: to clarify, I need to sync coherence from debian, I have per package upload rights for coherence, should I get a MOTU ACK for the sync request, or can I subscribe the archive admins directly to the sync request?05:56
ajmitchif you have upload rights for that, I'd subscribe ubuntu-archive05:59
porthoseajmitch: thx06:00
persiaporthose, Just subscribe the archive-admins.  it's probably worth noting that you're a per-package-uploader, to avoid confusion the first time.06:00
ajmitchthey may only look at team membership when it comes to the syncs06:00
ajmitchright, do as persia suggests :)06:00
persiaporthose, In more detail: you are an Ubuntu Developer, in every sense that is required to handle your packages.  No further authority is required.06:00
porthosewill do thx again :)06:01
porthoseWould a MOTU please unsubscribe u-u-s from Bug #396357 please.06:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396357 in coherence "Sync coherence 0.6.4-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39635706:09
persiaporthose, unsubscribing now...06:10
porthosepersia: Cool, time for bed, night06:11
RoAkSoAxHey guys, Should we always take Debian patches against Ubuntu ones?? For example, while merging, older Ubuntu provided a patch that in my opinion is a better patch that the newer Debian is providing (fewer code lines and keeping the structure of upstream source code). So in such cases, should we still take Debian patches?06:16
persiaRoAkSoAx, We take Debian patches unless we believe it to be worth the extra work of maintaining the variance.06:19
RoAkSoAxpersia, ok so be it. thanks :)06:19
persiaSo, if you think the Ubuntu patch is enough better, and want to work on getting everyone (upstream, Debian, Ubuntu) back in sync over the longer term, there's no reason not to keep the Ubuntu patch.06:20
RoAkSoAxpersia, well for example, the patch is to change a function call from "hello(1+1,2+2,3+3)" to "hello_dude(a,b,c,d)". Ubuntu does it that way, Debian does it like: a = 1+1. b =2+2, c=3+3 and then -> "hello_dude(a,b,c,d)"06:22
persiaOK.  Do you care enough to make it better later?06:23
RoAkSoAxpersia, well I would since the main reason would be to keep things simple by having less lines of code...06:24
RoAkSoAxor should I just report it back to upstream and wait till the better fix gets to Debian06:24
persiaAnd be responsible for merging the difference in the meantime.06:25
persiaI'd also suggest engaging the Debian maintainer.  Maybe there's a good reason to do it that way.06:25
RoAkSoAxok then, I'll contact Debian maintainer first and talk about that patch. Thanks for the help :)06:26
persiaGood luck.06:26
RoAkSoAxthanks :)06:28
RoAkSoAxwell I'm off to sleep. see ya06:28
cpscottiAmpelbein: Hi, have you seen that harpia got rejected by the archive admin? I think I corrected the issued.. could u check that?06:41
alkisgHi! I want to package some windows/flash based educational applications and put them into a repository. They contain multimedia files, so they're big, e.g. 100Mb.07:36
alkisgTo make them run correctly under Ubuntu, I'll have to change some of the files they contain, e.g. html encoding, ie-specific javascript...07:36
alkisgMy problem is: if my repository users install the edu app, and I later need to update it with a patch that only affects 1 html file, how can I do it without them downloading the whole 100Mb again?07:36
alkisgCan I make a "original" package, which just puts all html and swf files to /usr/share/eduapp, and then make a "diff" package, which modifies them while inside /usr/share/eduapp, so that I can only update the diff package? Or is that a silly idea?07:38
persiaalkisg, I'd recommend splitting the stuff up into a bunch of smaller packages, where it would make sense to update them together.07:39
alkisgpersia: the problem is that I cannot logically split it. It's one big app with lots of multimedia files...07:39
persiaThat's harder.  How about a program/data split?07:40
alkisgThey're html and swf files... I could split the .swf files, but they're in a directory hierarchy, so the two packages hierarchies would overlap :(07:41
alkisgI.e. eduapp/lesson1/swf_files   and eduapp/lesson1/html_files07:41
alkisg(then lesson2, lesson3 etc)07:41
alkisgHow do the langpacks work? I think there's a big one (-base?) and another one that gets modified more frequently?07:41
* persia isn't sure, and leaves this for someone with better advice07:42
alkisgThank you persia. I know, it's a difficult one :(07:42
alkisgYes, I think the language-pack-xx vs language-pack-xx-base is what I need. If someone can explain me how this works, I'd really appreciate it. :)07:47
dholbachgood morning07:52
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alkisgLet me rephrase my question, please: I need to split an educational application into 2 packages that will function in the same way as language-pack-xx-base (all files) and language-pack-xx (modified files). Where can I find info on this, i.e. how can 2 different .deb packages provide an overlapping set of files?07:54
persiaalkisg, You might just download some of the example packages, and play with dpkg --contents07:59
highvoltageI uploaded my first package ever to REVU \o/08:01
highvoltagepersia: I'll get the lxde path on there next and ping you for review if that's ok?08:01
persiahighvoltage, Sure, but for best results, ping generally.  I'll notice if I'm about, and maybe someone else will respond sooner.08:02
alkisgpersia: See in http://pastebin.com/f3a2abd3e - the language-pack-en overrides for example pidgin.mo, which normally belongs to language-pack-en-base....08:05
alkisgCan I just go ahead and do that? I.e. override files that belong to other packages? Or is there some mechanism I should aware of?08:05
alkisg*overwrite, not override (my English sucks :()08:06
persiaoverwriting doesn't work easily, without replacing, which should be approached with caution at best.08:06
persiaGenerally, it's a bad idea.08:06
alkisgI think the langpacks are a perfect example for me; that's exactly what I need. What do you mean by "replacing", is there some mechanism in apt that I can use to notify it that I replaced the file owner package?08:07
alkisg*I mean, "the package that owns some file"..?08:08
persiaReplaces:08:08
alkisgIsn't that for whole packages?08:08
persiaBut use it with caution and care, and triple-read related policy.08:08
persiaGo read the policy.  It explains what it does,08:09
kaushalhi08:09
kaushalwhen is the official release of Firefox 3.5 will be released in Ubuntu Hardy ?08:09
persiakaushal, I don't know that there is an answer to that question.08:09
alkisgI've read the "replaces" part of the policy, I don't think it does what I need... And I don't see "replaces" in language-pack-en :(08:09
persiaYou might look for a backports bug, or similar.08:09
kaushalpersia: can you please point me to it08:10
micahgkaushal: this is still being discussed by the mozilla team the best way to do this08:10
persiakaushal, bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports08:11
micahgnormally new packages are not added to old released08:11
alkisgpersia: thanks for your time :)08:11
kaushalmicahg: is there a irc channel for ubuntu mozilla ?08:12
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micahg#ubuntu-mozillateam08:13
kaushalmicahg: Thanks08:13
micahgkaushal: you're best shot of getting an answer is probably after noon UTC08:13
micahg*your08:13
alkisgpersia: and *sorry*, I was wrong, "replaces" was what I needed, I remembered wrong.08:14
persiaalkisg, That's two readings of policy.  Once more, and I think you'll be likely to be safe :)  I still think it's dangerous, and should be avoided, if possible.08:14
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gaspageser: I note just now that you miss dholbach in your relpy09:22
dholbachgaspa: just send it to me too09:22
gaspayup09:22
gaspawgrant: how many times a day did the ftbfs script on ubuntuwire run? (build_status.py, to be clearer...)09:27
dholbachgaspa: replied too09:47
\shmoins09:50
wgrantgaspa: Every 6 hours.09:54
gaspawgrant: ok, thanks.09:54
wgrantgaspa: The interval was chosen arbitrarily.09:55
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geserwgrant: I've a patch from gaspa to also display the uploader (or maintainer) for the FTBFS but it increase the run time to 20 min. Do you think it's usefull enough to warrant it?10:07
wgrantgeser: eeh, hard to say.10:08
wgrantI need to work out why it takes so long.10:09
wgrantThe latency between the hosts is just a few milliseconds.10:09
geserwgrant: the SSPH has no uploader attribute currently so it need to fetch the changes file and parse it10:09
gesers/SSPH/SPPH/10:10
wgrantgeser: Yep. Maybe we can convince them to expose ISPR.10:10
wgrantThat has lots of useful info.10:10
geserwgrant: bug 37270410:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 372704 in soyuz "expose Signed-by and Changed-by via API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37270410:12
wgrantgeser: Thanks.10:13
gaspawgrant, geser: it takes 20min from my home... if the latency in ubuntuwire is minor, perhaps, that time will be shorter...10:26
wgrantgaspa: I've discussed it with a Soyuz developer, and the information might be appearing in attributes on the SPPH in a few days.10:29
gaspa \o/10:32
gaspageser: so, for maintainer it's better wait some time....10:36
gaspacan .csv instead be merged?10:37
gesergaspa: sure, will try to get it done today10:40
slytheringeser: I followed your advice. Check the latest doxia upload and you will know how much work I needed to do to make it build in Ubuntu. :-)10:43
geserslytherin: I've already seen that you got doxia-sitetools build. I can check now if I manage to bootstrap maven-debian-helper10:44
rawanggaspa, hi10:45
rawanggaspa, i have done what you suggested in strongwind, please take a look if you have time :)10:45
slytheringeser: nope. that will need some more work IIRC. You will need to rebuild maven-reporting-impl and then fix maven-plugin-tools to not build depend upon itself.10:47
gesermore bootstrapping :(10:47
* geser wishes Debian would also do source-only uploads10:48
slytheringeser: maven-reporting-impl is DEPWAIT on libdoxia-sitetools-java. See if you can get any archive admin to give us preferential treatment and clear libdoxia-sitetools-java from new queue.10:50
slytheringeser: One of the classic cases is package openbios-ppc. The rules file exits when architecture is non powerpc, but the package is arch:all. :-)10:53
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gaspadholbach: where is it better to put ftbfs.csv ? clues, oppurtunities or both?13:43
dholbachgaspa: just opportunities - I'll drop the clues thing in the new harvest version13:45
gaspayo13:46
gaspa:)13:46
dholbachit wasn't really useful the way it was and it needs some rethinking13:46
gaspadholbach: I just requested a merge for harvest-data...13:53
dholbachsuper13:57
dholbachwill take a look later on13:57
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billybigriggerhey all14:40
billybigriggerwhat is the best way to go about requestings a package upgrade?14:41
Ampelbeinbillybigrigger: you could ask the previous uploader or file a bug on that package requesting the update14:41
billybigriggerk14:41
Laneyor ask the debian maintainer14:41
Laneyor do it yourself14:42
Laneylots of options!14:42
billybigriggerhow do i find the maintainer?14:42
billybigriggeri don't want to go stepping on toes either14:42
billybigriggerso ill let someone else do it14:42
Ampelbeinbillybigrigger: what package is it anyway?14:42
slytherinhyperair: are you involved in packaging of remuco?14:42
billybigriggervlc14:42
billybigriggerCandidate: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu114:42
billybigrigger1.0.0 was released14:42
slytherinbillybigrigger: it was released just today. So you can expect it to get updated in karmic within a week or two.14:43
billybigriggernice14:43
billybigriggeris there a need to file a bug for upgrade then?14:43
Ampelbeinbillybigrigger: bug 396548 and debian bug 53608114:43
billybigriggerim sure the maintainer is on top of it eh?14:43
billybigriggerahh cool14:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396548 in vlc "Please update to the latest upstream release 1.0.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39654814:43
ubottuDebian bug 536081 in vlc "vlc: new upstream release (1.0.0)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/53608114:43
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siretart`billybigrigger: don't worry about vlc. the package is maintained in debian by xtophe, who happens to be part of vlc upstream14:51
siretart`billybigrigger: I expect he will update the package soon14:51
billybigriggerahh ok14:52
slytherinbillybigrigger: if you are looking for update in jaunty then that is a different story. It will have to go in -backports.14:58
billybigriggernope14:58
billybigriggerkarmic14:58
bddebianHeya gang15:25
AnAntbddebian: Hello !15:30
bddebianHi and15:37
bddebianErr AnAnt15:37
dupondje:( long queue to build packages @ ppa :( :P16:02
geseronly 20 packages, that's not a long queue16:09
gesera long queue was during the archive rebuild in PPA with a queue length > 1200016:10
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dholbachanybody wants to give a session about merging at 09th July, 12:00 UTC?16:37
dholbachjust demonstrating a simple merge in a bit more detail :-)16:37
dholbachany other topic is fine too16:39
dholbachajmitch: how about a PHP packaging session?16:41
dholbachat UDW and/or 09th July, 12:00 UTC?16:41
ajmitchmidnight for me16:42
dholbachyou could add a ghost story!16:42
dholbach;-)16:42
* ajmitch really shouldn't be up right now :)16:42
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nhandlerjames_w: Thanks for volunteering for the July 9th slot. I'll update the Fridge. Do you want to update the -classroom topic and the Next Packaging Training Session wiki page?17:16
james_wnhandler: man you are quick :-)17:16
james_wI was just going to ask you about the Fridge17:16
james_wI've done the wiki17:17
* nhandler subscribes to lots of wiki pages17:17
james_wI can't op in -classroom17:18
nhandlerjames_w: You should be able to OP through chanserv17:18
nhandlerI OPed you james_w17:19
nhandlerAnd can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Headers/NextPackagingTraining ?17:19
\shhmm...python experts...optparser and options only available when another option is set..possible?17:22
ramviI'm trying to package Ubiquity, but I'm getting No package 'glib-2.0' found. No package 'gtk+-2.0' found, even though I have apt-get build-dep, install libgtk+-2.0-dev libglib-2.0-dev build-essential . How come?18:09
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slytherinis update-maintainer script going to be updated in jaunty?19:17
debfxAdri2000: are you still interested in packaging blobby volley 2?19:24
Adri2000debfx: why not. some work was done in debian with a debian developer, so it might be a good idea to try to contact him19:28
Adri2000and someone renamed the rfp to itp, so I'd suggest asking him what progress is he making19:30
debfxAdri2000: I contacted him some time ago, basically he said he isn't interested in packaging it anymore19:30
Adri2000ok19:31
Adri2000on the upstream side, do you have any information? I see the website is dead19:31
debfxAdri2000: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=408439 has been renamed from itp to rfp19:33
ubottuDebian bug 408439 in wnpp "ITP: blobby -- volleyball game with blobs" [Wishlist,Open]19:33
Adri2000right, sorry, I need to read more carefully :)19:34
debfxrecently there has been some activity on svn19:34
slytheringeser: there?19:35
c_korndo all applications written in python go to the python section in debian/control? or only python libs?19:37
POXlibs only19:38
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nailoraooo-thumbnailer is a upcoming package to produce thumbnails of office files (as it is the case with pdf files already). can one of you have a look at the following build log and tell my why it fails20:00
nailorahttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ooo-thumbnailer/0.1~alpha2-1/+build/99823120:00
slytherinnailora: is this error enough for you - dh_builddeb -pooo-thumbnailer  Found files in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages (must be in dist-packages for python2.6).20:02
nailorano and yes :) -- i am no python developer/packager myself so i would never have found this message nor do i know how to fix it. but i am developer enough to see that this is a statement i can forward to someone. i do poke people and mediate :) thanks!20:07
slytherinnailora: I found the error in build log. Looks like you weren't looking hard enough or not at the right place.20:09
slytherin:-)20:09
nailorai did look in the build log, but this error was not obvious enough for me, see my last message20:11
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thermhello everybody, anyone out there likes reviewing my package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/swtcalendar20:58
thermIt has been reviewed one time20:59
thermI fixed all I could20:59
slytherintherm: I am doing it right now.21:01
geserslytherin: yes21:01
thermslytherin: thanks21:01
slytheringeser: Was there any discussion about not having jre dependency in java library packages? Or did that happen in Debian Java ML.21:03
geserslytherin: I don't remember reading anything about it (at least on the lists I follow)21:06
slytherinthen it was probably on Debian Java ML.21:06
highvoltage22:03 < nlt_> err21:07
highvoltage22:03 < nlt_> highvoltage:21:07
highvoltage22:03 < nlt_> I clicked that link21:07
highvoltage22:03 < nlt_> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com21:07
highvoltage22:03 < nlt_> and I'm logged in as jonathan21:07
highvoltage22:04 < nlt_> under preferences it says "Preferred email address:  jonathan@ubuntu.com  "21:07
highvoltage^^^ that's another jonathan from my local LUG21:07
highvoltagehe doesn't have my revu username and password. and that is my e-mail address.21:07
highvoltagepersia, nhandler, jpds, nixternal ^^^21:10
dupondje11h buildwait on ppa's :P21:10
dupondje:(21:10
geserwow, >100 packages in the PPA build queues, it has increased nicely in the past few hours21:13
dupondjebtw, a small question. Isn't it possible to reupload the same version to your ppa when you deleted the old package. For example when the first try was a disaster ? :P21:14
slytherinasac: is xulrunner-1.9.1 surely going to replace xulrunner-1.9? If yes, I will migrate swt-gtk when doing merge from debian.21:15
slytherindupondje: how hard is it to bump version? :-)21:16
dupondjeslytherin: not hard :) but its not eshetic to have to high version numbers :P:P21:17
ajmitchhighvoltage: that's a little odd - the normal way of logging into REVU is by using openid provided by launchpad21:18
slytherincan any of the revu admins nuke http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libswtcalendar the package has been uploaded with changed source name.21:20
highvoltageajmitch: quite odd indeed21:20
ajmitchslytherin: ok21:20
slytherintherm: added comments. If you fix them and package builds fine in pbuilder then you have my vote.21:21
ajmitchalefteris: archived it for now21:21
slytherinajmitch: I guess that message was for me.21:22
ajmitchslytherin: yes, I mistyped, didn't see21:22
* ajmitch falling asleep :)21:22
thermslytherin: thank you21:22
slytherintherm: welcome21:23
dupondjedamn we need more ppa buildboxes :P21:24
geserdupondje: it varies how many PPA buildds are available but I don't know under which conditions21:26
slytherindamn we need more build servers. :-)21:26
dupondje109 build waiting for aamd64 :)21:27
dupondjealot !21:27
geser>10000 is a lot (archive test build)21:28
slytheringeser: libplexus-utils merged from debian and maven-filtering is no more FTBFS. Once maven-filtering is out of new queue it will clear at least one DEPWAIT (maven-resources-plugin)21:29
geserwoohu21:29
slytheringeser: if doxia-sitetools is cleared form NEW within next 24 hours and you happen to be free then, can you please try rebuild (version build1) of maven-reporting-impl.21:34
dupondjelooks like mozilla team pushed a ton of builds :P21:34
geserslytherin: sure21:35
slytheringot to go to sleep now. :-)21:35
gnomefreakwe did?21:38
gnomefreakhoping SM update was pushed for me but other than that and daily builds not sure what else we pushed21:39
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/dutch/+bug/307667 <- how do I get this patch released ? The debian maintainer seems sleeping :(21:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 307667 in dutch "Spelling checker does nothing because nl_BE spelling is missing or isn't configured by default" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:39
jpdshighvoltage: Erm, bizarre.21:39
ajmitchlooks like we're down a member on motu-release, that's unfortunate22:23
Laneyvolunteering?22:25
ajmitchthat position requires ability & skill :)22:26
geserajmitch: and you miss both?22:27
* ajmitch certainly isn't planning to volunteer for the CC roles that are being discussed in -meeting at the moment22:27
ajmitchgeser: at this hour of the morning I certainly do22:27
* ajmitch regrets getting out of bed for an earlier meeting on irc22:29
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pace_t_zuluhey guys i've got someone asking me about VLC 1.0 ... can anyone fill me in on the story?22:49
Ampelbeincody-somerville: there? I have a question regarding SRU for bug 178228, it's two small fixes, debian bug 496863 and debian bug 516064 . Do you think it's "worth" a SRU? The game is not widely used but the fixes are small and safe.23:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 178228 in zangband "zangband fails to start due to RNG 64-bit bug" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17822823:01
ubottuDebian bug 496863 in zangband "zangband: RNG broken on AMD64" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/49686323:01
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ubottuDebian bug 516064 in zangband "Re: micro-fix for zangband-data" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/51606423:01
gaspaLaney: do you intend to merge ghc6 ? seems it closes a LP bug....23:04
ajmitchdholbach: so are you planning to take over the ITP for php-validate? I see it's been almost 2 years since originally filed with no response from the original person23:05
dholbachajmitch: I can't maintain it in Debian very well23:05
Laneygaspa: yeah, I passed that to kaol23:05
ajmitchdholbach: ah ok, which is why you'd prefer the team to take it23:05
gaspadoes it require extra rebuilds?23:06
gaspaimho no, but just to be sure...23:06
Laneyno23:06
dholbachajmitch: yes, I did the packaging already23:06
Laneyi'll sponsor it if you want to do it now23:06
Laneygaspa: ^23:06
ajmitchdholbach: yep, saw that :)23:06
gaspaLaney: uh, what? ghc merge, you mean?23:07
Laneyyes23:07
Laneyotherwise i'll do it later in the week23:07
gaspaoh, yes... let's try....23:07
Laneythe delta is very small23:07
gaspai'll take a chance, as I'm waiting for hours some ppa builds :P23:08
ajmitchdholbach: I'll take a look & see if I can get it into sid then23:09
gaspaLaney: I don't need sponsorship, but I'll ask you a review, given the package...23:09
Laneyohyou're motu?23:09
dholbachajmitch: fantastico - if you could talk to the team, that'd be great23:10
gaspaLaney: yep ;) from just a couple of week...23:10
dholbachI wouldn't like to be in the Maintainer field and not properly being able to maintain it there :)23:10
Laneygaspa: SWEET!23:11
gaspa:)23:11
ajmitchdholbach: it's something that could be useful in replacing some inhouse validation code I use :)23:12
dholbachhehe23:13
dholbachajmitch: wait until I have all the other modules in place23:13
dholbachso you can upload like 30 modules at once :-)23:13
ajmitchdholbach: I need to find out if there's some useful way to switch between git & bzr for packaging branches23:14
dholbachbzr-git!23:14
ajmitchif it's two-way enough23:14
dholbachthere's push for it23:14
ajmitchyeah, I've talked to thumper a bit about it :)23:14
gaspaLaney: it's really simple, seems... if you don't mind, I'll make a test build and upload asap.23:18
dholbachok my friends, I call it a day23:18
Laneygaspa: told you! go nuts23:18
Laneynight dholbach23:18
ajmitchnight dholbach23:18
dupondje202 packages pending for i386 @ PPA builds23:21
dupondje:'(23:21
dupondjethis is crazy23:21
ajmitchlooks like i need to track down james_w about bzr & git wrt packaging23:23
james_whi ajmitch23:34
ajmitchhello23:36
* ajmitch just had some questions about managing packages that live in git for debian while being able to use the packaging branches with bzr23:36
james_wajmitch: have you tried the LP git imports?23:44
ajmitchjames_w: not as yet, should I need to import packaging branches from debian?23:45
james_wyou don't have to23:46
james_wit would just allow you to use bzr to work with their git branches23:46
ajmitchround-trip, or only for pulling changes from git at this stage?23:47
ajmitchI want to work on them in debian but ubuntu needs to carry some changes, so I'd like to try & work properly with how things should be done23:48
* kb9vqf wonders why so many PPA builders are down today...the queue is a mile long23:49
Laneyajmitch: can't you just have an ubuntu branch in git?23:50
Laneyor would you like all ubuntu developers to be able to commit?23:50
ajmitchLaney: I could, but there's to be at least a team PPA for this (PHP packages, btw)23:50
Laneygit-buildpackage --git-debian-branch works23:51
james_wyay RainCT :-)23:52
james_wLaney: what does --git-debian-branch do?23:52
ajmitchsince everything's to be imported into bzr branches, it'd be 'nice' to be able to pass changes back & forth23:52
* ajmitch wonders what he missed about RainCT 23:52
james_wajmitch: you can't fully round trip yet23:52
* RainCT too23:52
Laneyjames_w: It specifies which branch has debian/23:53
james_wzeitgeist23:53
RainCTjames_w: ah, zeitgeist :)23:53
james_wLaney: ah23:53
ajmitchjames_w: ok, that's mostly what I was looking to find out :)23:53
Laneyso you'd have master for the debian packaging and ubuntu for the ubuntu packaging23:53
ajmitchand how the imported bzr branches would work for this23:53
ajmitchespecially in the cases where the debian package has Vcs-*23:53
james_wajmitch: you can "dpush" which is write to git, but not round trip properly (it rebases bzr on top of the resulting git)23:53
james_wor you can diff | patch23:53
ajmitchrebase, that sounds evil :)23:53
james_wone day there will be "bzr send --format=git" as well23:54
RainCTjames_w: have you tried it out?23:54
james_wnope, not yet23:55
cpscottiwarp10, Ampelbein : The harpia package ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia ) got rejected by the archive-admins due to some dependencies "verbosity". I fixed those and some other minor debian/control issue and re-uploaded the package, can u take a look? PS: the archive-admin comments are posted on the revu page. Thanks in advance23:57

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