[00:01] uh "Macintosh Mouse button emulation"... why emulate 1 button when you have at 2? o.O [00:02] if you like white plastic? [00:03] I mean, under Mouse I have 2 devices, my Logitech and that tosh [00:05] just wondering, in case that would prevent me from using my mouse wheel to change desktop [00:06] something that hasn't changed from kubuntu though is that ufw apparently refuses to keep its "logging" setting [00:11] ufw ? [00:11] PsynoKhi0: i agree with you for wine but somehow it doesnt have one. Thank you if you file a bug for it (against xubuntu-desktop in launchpad.net) [00:25] SiDi: might be solved [00:25] NoDisplay=true <- my /usr/shar/applications/wine.desktop has that [00:27] does xubuntu gave a graphical sudo program? [00:28] you mean gksudo? [00:29] apt-get won't let me install gksudo [00:29] uh [00:30] gksudo is a command that's preinstalled [00:30] like... [00:30] gksudo synaptic [00:30] makes you launch the package manager from a terminal [00:31] but prompts you for password in a new window [00:32] SiDi: nvm wine.desktop it's not the app menu entry [00:37] PsynoKhi0: gksudo asks for the password graphically and doesnt damage your home folder [00:37] contrarily to sudo which is only for CLI apps [00:37] (and for apps that dont touch your config files) [00:41] ? [00:44] bedtime, bye [00:55] I need to install gspca to get my webcam working. downloaded from synaptic, but what now? [01:14] Hello [01:15] I'm trying to get wireless networking to start automatically [01:15] nm-applet starts when I log in, but it wants a password [01:15] how can I have wireless start at boot? [01:15] coffeej, I don't know anything about gspca, however, you need to tell gspca where your webcam is, or viceversa. [01:16] that really isn't a lot of help, I know, but that's about all I can tell you. [01:16] Soopa: do you mean it asks for your network'sp assword ? [01:16] Soopa: if so, did you enter it at least once correctly ? If you did it shouldnt ask it anymore [01:16] SiDi_: No, I mean it asks for a keychain password [01:17] or something like that [01:17] is your webcam USB? plug it in and then run #demsg and it will probably tell you where it's located. [01:17] (sudo dmesg, coffeej ) === Nathan is now known as Guest19364 [01:20] Err, keyring, actually [02:12] what codecs do i need to download to play avi??? [02:12] my vlc player closes anytime i try to play any file [02:15] wolfgang, dowload every codec you can find.. [02:15] that's all I do. [02:15] hah thats pimp [02:15] ok [02:15] try add/run programs and synaptic [02:15] ok [02:15] especially gstreamer stuff [02:15] yeah becasue the program i was using to play the file couldnt find anything [02:15] and run vlc in a terminal to see why it's crashing. [02:16] <_Pete_> or install all from medibuntu repos [02:16] im goa have to do it myself... also my vls player doesnt function at all [02:16] I have several video players. I really like mplayer (no gui) or smplayer (gui version)... [02:16] <_Pete_> http://www.medibuntu.org/ [02:16] the problem with mplayer itself is you need to manually install the codecs. [02:16] Illegal instruction [02:17] thats what it tells me whenever i try to open any file mp3 avi whatever [02:17] try another video/audio player.. [02:18] on xubuntu when using totem, many times it will ask you if you want to download more codecs to play the video. [02:18] yeah .. i like vls though dont know why its messe dup tried uninstalling it and istalling it again . [02:18] what is medibuntu? [02:18] got to the site and it will tell you. [02:19] yeah thats what im doing [02:19] it's a repository with all the stuff you may be looking for. [02:19] <_Pete_> for me after installing stuff from that [02:20] <_Pete_> everything works [02:20] <_Pete_> using hybridsystem [02:20] sweet [02:20] <_Pete_> Xfce desktop + some gnome/kde apps [02:21] <_Pete_> with this http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic [02:21] actually, running mintubuntu is better for most folks. [02:22] they include everything automatically for various multimedia codecs and such. [02:22] whats the difference betwen linux mint and mintubuntu.. same thing right [02:23] well, let's get something straight... linux is a kernel. That's the core of the Operating System (OS). The media rerfer to all distros with linux kernel as a linux OS./ [02:23] Ubuntu is just one flavor of linux OS. [02:23] <_Pete_> or better yet GNU linux [02:23] damn you have a pimp computer.. my main compute is an imac g3 with like 200 mb of ram [02:23] xubuntu another... and then there's something like mintbuntu, which is just ubuntu with all the multimedia and other stuff already installed. [02:23] yeah [02:23] _Pete_, yah.. :) [02:24] yeah [02:24] so is linux mint and mintubuntu the same thing? [02:24] no.. is there a _linux mint_? [02:24] I don't think so. [02:24] <_Pete_> wolfgang: are you totally newbie to linux? [02:25] hah [02:25] i guess os then [02:25] so [02:25] mintbuntu just uses ubuntu as the base and then adds a few things to it to make it their own. Totally legit in the Open Source world. [02:25] http://www.linuxmint.com/ [02:25] yeah thats what linux mint is [02:26] its ubuntu based [02:26] <_Pete_> never tried that one [02:27] wolfgang, sorry. That's my fault. That's what I meant. [02:27] it's linuxmint, and not mintbuntu. [02:28] Linuxmint is ubuntu with a few added codecs and multimedia already supplied with the distro. [02:29] I have linuxmint setup as a virtual OS. [02:29] <_Pete_> have you tried this [02:29] it really looks great. [02:29] <_Pete_> http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/ [02:29] <_Pete_> for me it gaves strange results [02:29] <_Pete_> like [02:29] <_Pete_> 1. Gentoo Linux [02:29] <_Pete_> 2. FreeBSD [02:29] <_Pete_> 3. NetBSD [02:29] <_Pete_> 4. Debian GNU/Linux [02:30] <_Pete_> 5. Archlinux [02:30] never seen it before. [02:30] Gentoo #1, it must mean you are a control freak. [02:30] Gentoo really sux man. [02:30] <_Pete_> I think I am [02:30] actually, I never tried gentoo by Sabayonlinux... but it was still difficult. [02:31] <_Pete_> since being pro programmer and doing that for a job also [02:32] 1. Fedora [02:32] 2. Ubuntu Linux [02:32] 3. openSUSE [02:32] 4. Debian GNU/Linux [02:32] 5. Mandriva Linux [02:32] it's not very useful, IMHO. [02:32] <_Pete_> which one? [02:33] Fedora, me thinks is RPM based. I don't care for that much. [02:33] <_Pete_> yeah [02:33] I don't think the quiz helps out much. [02:33] <_Pete_> actually started using linux with red hat [02:33] <_Pete_> with rpm-hell [02:33] when people ask me I just tell them ubuntu or one of their flavors, like Linuxminut. [02:34] hehe, me too, in 1999 or so. [02:34] bought a book and everything. What a joke. [02:34] dependencancy hell sucked. [02:34] <_Pete_> indeed [02:34] why anyone would deal with such stuff like that, I have no idea. [02:35] <_Pete_> last time tried centos [02:35] <_Pete_> couple of years ago [02:35] it was like that? [02:35] <_Pete_> yes [02:35] is Redhat still like that? [02:35] <_Pete_> dont know [02:35] <_Pete_> and wont want to [02:35] gawd, I hope not. What the hell. [02:35] <_Pete_> centos is something derieved from current rhos base [02:35] that's why I hate compiling my own stuff. [02:36] yup, it is. [02:36] <_Pete_> when I tried it [02:36] <_Pete_> yum was slow like shit [02:37] <_Pete_> compiling is most important part of my job [02:37] <_Pete_> and doing that also for/with linux [02:37] then gentoo is for you. === FlareFlare is now known as Flare183 [02:38] <_Pete_> like doing software for that rumored maemo/N900/nokia phone yet to come [02:39] yeah know i now why you guys thoiught i was acomplete n00b [02:39] <_Pete_> dont worry [02:40] <_Pete_> I only started using unix/internet 1987 or so [02:40] <_Pete_> have learned something since then [02:41] yeah i wasnt even born yet :x [02:41] yeah got me right on the money [02:41] 1. Ubuntu Linux [02:41] 2. Debian GNU/Linux [02:41] 3. openSUSE [02:41] 4. Mandriva Linux [02:41] 5. Fedora [02:41] im a debian guy [02:41] <_Pete_> good for you [02:42] tried yellow dog on my imac it was ok then debian it was way more responsive [02:42] and now im with xubuntu [02:42] <_Pete_> Today I just realized that there are slow computers also [02:43] <_Pete_> my personal desktop is 8G mem / top-raid [02:43] <_Pete_> so everything is blinding fast [02:43] damn thats awesom [02:43] e [02:43] <_Pete_> with this Eee PC [02:43] <_Pete_> it just feels so slow for everything [02:43] yeah i wish i had cash for a pimp computer ... i know there not even that expensive anymore [02:44] yeah i have an eeepc also [02:44] what os you running on it? [02:44] <_Pete_> it had XP [02:44] <_Pete_> wiped that with ubuntu [02:44] same here [02:45] xubuntu though [02:45] <_Pete_> which model you do have? [02:45] im gona try lxde after it [02:45] the 100ha [02:45] with hard disc drive [02:45] 1000ha [02:45] i upgraded to 2gb ram [02:45] and still sometimes feels a little slow [02:46] <_Pete_> I have the same [02:46] yeah its not too big not too small [02:46] the 7 in is ridiculous [02:46] <_Pete_> and the PINK one [02:46] thats awesome [02:46] <_Pete_> uber stupid cool :) [02:46] is that the acer netbook or eeepc also has a pink one? [02:47] <_Pete_> Eeepc 1000he pink [02:47] sweet [02:47] also wanted to try out pupeee [02:47] <_Pete_> I am going to put some apple sticker on the back [02:47] puppy linux [02:48] is the flash video playback slow? like off outube [02:48] youtube [02:48] <_Pete_> haven't tried yet [02:49] oh [02:49] yeah im thinking of reinstalling xp dual boot. so that the wireless can work at the university and so for whenever i want to watch streaming video of the net [02:51] <_Pete_> is that other word for porn? [02:52] hahaha [02:52] thats pimpm [02:52] pimp [02:52] yeah sure but also like music off youtube and stuff like that [02:52] <_Pete_> just tried [02:52] <_Pete_> flash dont work [02:52] how does it perform? [02:52] oh man [02:53] <_Pete_> maybe need to do that medibuntu things [02:53] yeah tahts what im doing right now on my imac so i cann watch this anime that i found [02:53] <_Pete_> Imac and iAnmine suxx [02:53] neon genesis evangelion i have the whole series burnt as avi [02:54] <_Pete_> that's also game [02:54] <_Pete_> you know mame? [02:54] eee dont hate :) i dont like alot of anime either [02:54] mame like the arcade emulator [02:54] <_Pete_> yes [02:54] yea they have a badass evangelion game for arcade? [02:55] <_Pete_> I think so [02:55] thats cool... i havent tried a mame emulators before but i have snes nes sega all these other ones on my wii [02:55] and on my eeepc [02:55] <_Pete_> does they run fullspeed on eeepc? [02:56] i think the series for neon genesis evangelion was much better than the short... [02:57] yeah [02:57] they run pretty good [02:58] my favorite is killer instinct for ssuper nintendo [02:58] <_Pete_> how about C64= [02:58] yeah your talking about dead of evangelion right [02:58] the movies [02:58] ee i havent tried the 64 emulator [02:58] <_Pete_> it still have most best games [02:59] the nintendo 64/ [02:59] ? [02:59] hey pete how old are you.... my best friends name is also pete [03:00] <_Pete_> I meant commodore 64 [03:00] <_Pete_> just turned to 37 [03:00] 23 here [03:00] oh commodore 64 yeah for sure it must run on the eeepc [03:01] <_Pete_> it's for me most coolest computer for demoscene [03:01] what kinda games do they have for the c 64? [03:01] <_Pete_> they are doing some unbelievable things on that [03:01] oh what kinda of things? [03:02] <_Pete_> http://www.c64.com/ [03:02] yeah i guess since ive been using this imac for so long im kinda into low end machines [03:02] <_Pete_> it is hard to explain [03:02] <_Pete_> if you dont know it [03:02] not that i wouldnt mind a pimp quad core like the link from earlier [03:03] yeah i remmeber my high chool had a comoodore 64 in the media department [03:03] <_Pete_> where do you live? [03:03] to super impose those kinda graphics [03:03] texas [03:03] south texas [03:03] edinburg [03:03] <_Pete_> USA? [03:03] yeah [03:03] but its pretty much mexico [03:04] <_Pete_> right [03:04] <_Pete_> C64 was first home computer which really hit the masses [03:05] <_Pete_> and I guess still has the tittle most computer sold ever [03:05] the culture and the food... damn the foods good here theres this place called taco palenque its open all night for the people that get drunk ... its good... thats awesome about the comodore 64.. i believe theres an comodore 64 emulator for the wii [03:06] <_Pete_> dont know about wii [03:06] <_Pete_> but for others there is [03:06] so the c64 theres still tons of games coming out for it? [03:07] <_Pete_> yes [03:08] sweet [03:08] what is the c64 emulator on linux called? [03:08] yeahi just found it [03:09] it was comodore 64 because it had 64k ram? [03:14] <_Pete_> yes [03:14] <_Pete_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5_ZiNXsA5c [03:14] thats cool [03:14] eee cant play that theres no flash for ppc linux :\ [03:15] haha ans swfdec only works somtimes [03:15] what is that video of? [03:15] <_Pete_> about C64 games/music [03:23] sweet il take alook at it in later on a notehr comp [03:28] <_Pete_> wolfgang: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpddeXlKgSM [03:31] how can I right-click in xubuntu when using a mac that has only one mouse buton? [03:38] control click? [03:38] nopes... === sancas_ is now known as sancas [03:43] <_Pete_> lolz [03:44] <_Pete_> stupid enough? [03:52] yes, it is stupid enough [04:23] hi [04:24] how do u switch window mangers [04:26] anyone here [04:56] yo pete [04:59] <_Pete_> yo [05:54] !compiz [05:54] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [06:39] hi [06:40] i am have problem with sound [06:45] hello [06:51] hello [06:51] anyone here [06:54] hello [06:59] ? [07:03] hello [07:03] can someone help with sound problem [07:14] erik_, ? [07:14] what's the problem? [07:14] cant get no sound [07:14] erik_, you speak spanish? [07:14] im having problem with no sound [07:15] but you speak spanish? [07:15] no english [07:16] ok [07:16] which sound card do you have [07:24] hey all [07:25] To get this out of the way: I'm completely now to Xubuntu, and am an amateur with Linux in general. [07:26] I was wondering if someone could tell me how to gain access to my Windows/NTFS partition from within Xubuntu. [07:27] since xubuntu 7.10, xubuntu has active by default read/write NTFS [07:28] That's great to hear! How do I get to the partition in File Manager, though? [07:30] I'm assuming the Filesystem shortcut is just for the partition that Xubuntu is installed on. [07:31] you should see the partition in thunar [07:31] you can mount it with a "click" [07:32] I don't see it, though. Maybe it wasn't auto-detected? [07:33] Thank you very much for the help, by the way. [07:38] i have a problem [07:39] with my xubuntu [07:39] it doesnt display my other ntfs drive [07:39] It looks like heroid and I have a similar issue. [07:40] how do i display thme [07:40] them [07:40] because ubuntu is to damn slow [07:40] in that pc [07:44] I'd check to see if the device was even detected, and there are more partitions and dmesg showed no errors [07:51] Yeah, see... Problem with that is I'm a newbie; no idea how to do that. [07:52] dump your lsusb output along with fdisk -l (this requires root), and the last few lines of dmesg (dmesg| tail) into pastebin [07:53] !pastebin | whitesmith [07:53] whitesmith: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [08:05] hi there [08:05] AH Help! I went to reinstall my old box with 8.10 but it hung at installing the usb drivers, which it had never done before, trying again after a force restart it refused to load the gui even from a live cd, so I found a win 98 cd and reformatted the drive, now when I load the live cd I get either dropped at the command prompt or it says there is a graphics error and offer to load ubuntu in low graphics mode, but doing so l [08:05] eaves me with a blank screen. [08:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/211742/ [08:06] the hardware is an ABit AB-BX6 mobo with the intel 440 chipset, P3 600, 512Mb ofram and an S3 Savage4 GT AGP card [08:08] I think that's what you asked for, but I'm not 100% certain. [08:10] i got an error on the updates, any idea? [08:16] Still there, psycho_oreos? [08:17] thunar is not working properly for me [08:18] when I try to change the default program that documents open with, the settings are not kept [08:19] intok, I am not the most knowledgeable here, but you had 8.10 on it, working I assume, now the 8.10 live cd refuses to give you X, sounds like a hardware issue [08:19] zetheroo: did you ever run thunar with sudo in the past ? [08:20] yes [08:20] zetheroo: do not do it ever again [08:20] ummm [08:20] why not? [08:20] when you use sudo, it will use your home directory's config files but with root rights [08:20] intok, have you tried unplugging ALL usb devices, power down and try again with live CD ? [08:20] kbmaniac tested for that already hardware checked out in windows [08:20] and so the files will be created with ownership to root and you wont be able to write on them [08:20] zetheroo: if you cant write on the files, settings are not changed anymore ;) [08:20] So 98 installed and worked AOK [08:21] zetheroo: "sudo chown -R : ~/.config [08:21] and yep had nothing but PS/2 kb mouse and monitor connected the entire time [08:21] SiDi: so that command will fix it? [08:22] ...mmm... thinking [08:22] intok, when you say USB drivers refused to load, what exactly happened ? kernal panic ? [08:23] SiDi: so thunar cannot be run with root privileges ? [08:23] I have installed nautilus now .... [08:24] zetheroo: DO NOT run nautilus with root privileges [08:24] zetheroo: there is "gksudo" for using graphical apps instead of sudo ;) [08:24] gksudo manages the config files correctly, without risk [08:24] and you should never never use sudo or gksudo for a file manager [08:25] this IS dangerous, you can easily trash files [08:25] thats what I do ... sorry I did not make that clear before [08:25] oh [08:25] I always use gksudo for that [08:25] hm did you still typed that chown command above, [08:25] kbmaniac at that point in the install it had not crashed but had stayed at 94% for over an hour and a half, even given the gage of said hardware I had to assume that the install had crashed silently, 94% was where the gui was telling me that the usb drivers where being installed. but from previous installs on this same hardware the install never took more then 30-40 mins to complete [08:26] SiDi: doing it now [08:27] SiDi: ok did it [08:27] intok, have you thought of using the alternative install CD, I did it a long while ago, it is a text based install so you can see more what is happening [08:27] SiDi: its still not working [08:28] intok, though its wierd, if 98 installs and runs AOK, hardware is basically AOK + you used to run 8.04 on it so its compatible ???? [08:28] kbmaniac never tried it before, but I give it a shot, already grabbing the official torrent [08:28] I go into the document properties and try to change the program it opens with and it does not stick ... as soon as I close the properties box the document is set back to opening with Abiword [08:29] zetheroo: go to .local/share/applications [08:29] and tell me who owns mimelist file [08:29] I own it [08:29] read and write permissions [08:30] kbmaniac yeah, I was playing around with the machine with xubuntu and qimo a kids mod of of xubuntu that apparently isn't going anywhere now after their first release, so I was going to go back to xubuntu, I was planing on giving the box to my cousin's kids who are 2, 4 and 6, but edubuntu is a bit heavy for the hardware [08:30] this is zetheroo ---- ok now I am on the Xubuntu machine [08:31] I can open the mimeapps.list file and see there the changes I am trying to implement [08:31] [Added Associations] [08:31] text/richtext=IBM Lotus Symphony.desktop; [08:31] application/rtf=IBM Lotus Symphony.desktop; [08:32] intok, good luck, if xubuntu is slow, look at zenwalk, it has some limitations but is a faster XFCE [08:33] zetheroo1: please find a png image and make it open with firefox [08:33] and tell me if it works [08:33] hmmm [08:33] a PNG [08:34] kbmaniac it's a bit slow for some things yeah, but for basically a diy leapfrog/playskool machine it was plenty fast. not like the little ones are going to be fragging in quake for a few years at least... but then again ... [08:36] SiDi: yes that worked [08:36] zetheroo1: is IBM Lotus Symphony.desktop working ? [08:36] and what kind of file are you asking it to open ? and how do you do exactly ? [08:37] the program IBM Lotus Symphony is working [08:37] I also had the same issue with trying to change the default to OpenOffice Writer [08:37] this is an RTF file [08:38] but its with any document [08:38] So, I guess no one has any idea what I should do with regards to accessing my NTFS partition? [08:38] intok, :) [08:39] SiDi: again ... it works perfectly in Nautilus .... [08:42] zetheroo1: sounds weird to me :-| [08:42] yeah I know ... :) [08:43] is there a way i could try it out in the terminal and see if there is an output of some kind [08:43] ? [08:43] nope [08:43] it works here if i change this kind of files to OOO [08:43] when you do right click -> properties -> open with [08:43] is Lotus listed ? [08:43] I wish i could remove Abiword [08:44] yes its there [08:44] select it and close, double click [08:44] yes and it opens with Abiword [08:44] :( [08:45] *idea* [08:45] I am removing Abiword [08:45] are you *sure* its an RTF file ? [08:45] yep [08:45] :) [08:45] if its named .XXX but its .YYY it'll use the .YYY's file handler [08:45] ah [08:46] the file is called Linux.rtf [08:48] and does the file ommand say its a rtf ? :p [08:48] yep [08:49] what about a program like gconfig [08:50] can i change it in there?. [08:50] * SiDi doesn't know [08:58] useless [08:58] argh [09:20] is there any way to run desktop icons with a single-click? [09:25] they were supposed to fix it in 4.6 but they didn't [09:26] just disabled icons and put large panel with launchers instead [09:26] aww [09:26] i like using single-click for the file manager [09:26] yeah [09:26] want it available for desktop as well [09:27] I'm with you there [09:27] i guess the panel launchers will do [09:27] any idea if there is a feature request somewhere i can +1? [09:27] in the xfce's bugtracker [09:28] cool thanks, ill look there [10:45] i guess this is more a linux question, but... in terminal, in order for me to paste what i've copied i must press shift and insert. is there a way to make good ol' ctrl-V paste into terminal? [11:03] shift+control+v [11:03] Nameless_au, that works in xfce4-terminal [11:04] MikeChelen: sheers i knew that, but for some reason those keystrokes are unresponsive [11:05] hence my use of shift-insert [11:05] hmm well shift insert is another option [11:05] sheers=cheers [11:05] but shift+control+v should work too [11:05] ah lol [11:05] i agree it should lol [11:05] maybe the keyboard shortcuts got changed? [11:06] maybe, dunno - i'll live with ctrl-shift-v working most of the time [11:07] maybe different terminal [11:07] ive seen 3 different ones on here so far [11:42] yeah that's possible [14:38] hi, how could i change the appearance of gtk apps in xubuntu to match with my destop? I would like them to look like thunar with oxygen icons from kde [14:39] pcmanfm and "places" now looks very ugly [14:58] places as in thunar? [15:01] evening all; how to change the clock time to 12 hr from 24 hr? [15:02] this is jaunty btw [15:02] bazhang, right click on clock=>properties=>uncheck use 24-hour clock [15:03] ablomen, thanks much! [15:03] that doesnt work [15:03] did that change? [15:04] just testing it; not my computer (helping someone else) [15:04] is there somewhere where i can do a screenshot paste? [15:04] bazhang: i have xubuntu xfce running now it will not work [15:04] pastebin.ca [15:05] oh and that goes to Imagebin :) [15:05] (.ca) [15:09] ablomen: http://imagebin.ca/view/8Oqru8Rl.html [15:09] shows what options are avail [15:10] you can see that it has 24-hr time with PM :) [15:10] you can put custom, but i don't know what the parameters are [15:10] ian_ is here about the same bug [15:11] i'm heree!!! [15:13] ah.. [15:13] i think that is an xfce thing personally but i could be wrong [15:29] ian_ WAS here about the same bug... [15:51] ablomen: i have found a fix for the clock [15:51] ok cool, but bazhang is gone already :) [15:51] ablomen: the clock uses the strftime variables, so to do what he wanted to do [15:52] in 'Custom', paste %l:%M %P [15:52] voila [15:52]