[02:25] <ryanakca> Could an italophone please look over http://paste.ubuntu.com/212325/ ?
[03:03] <vorian> ramalama
[03:56] <skreech> \o/
[03:56] <skreech> kdm broke on Jaunty
[03:58] <skreech> Bah nevr mind it's probably the kernel
[04:03] <skreech> Yup the kernel
[04:04] <skreech> Second question though. Why does KDM insist on logging out users logged in on the tty even if none exist?
[06:03] <hsitter> skreech: some weird bug, I never came to understand that one though
[06:04] <hsitter> it might be related to the graphics driver ... which would be weird, but still I have only heard of this on ATI chipsets
[06:04]  * hsitter goes to dentist
[09:48] <Riddell> ~twitter update buenos dias from the new GCDS location
[09:48] <kubotu> status updated
[10:21] <asac> Riddell: hey. remember to talk to our plasma widget-nm upstream ;)
[10:23] <Riddell> mm, havn't seen him this morning
[13:49] <rgreening> Riddell: arora is getting more annoying by the day... 1) no open with context menu for links 2) no support for embedding or opening external programs (always wants to save). I believe both of these are mime releated issues.. grr..
[13:55] <Riddell> rgreening: we should start filing bugs for the most important issues
[13:56] <Riddell> rgreening: although in the first instance maybe ask icefox on #arora about stuff like that
[13:56] <rgreening> Riddell: do we have a ninja owning arora :)
[13:56] <Riddell> how do you mean?  smarter works on it
[13:56] <rgreening> i.e. the plan to make it default
[13:56] <Riddell> it already is :)
[13:56] <Riddell> we'll decide around beta whether to keep that
[13:56] <rgreening> lol
[13:57] <rgreening> ok
[13:57] <rgreening> I'll chat with icefox.. see where the next release stands and if any of those issues are bieng addressed
[13:58]  * smarter waves
[13:58] <smarter> I started playing with kwallet dbus api(as we're trying to avoid linking with KDE)
[13:59] <smarter> the goal would be to have a fd.o standard for keyring
[13:59] <smarter> and a single lib/tool to query the current keyring app
[13:59] <Riddell> that's been talked about several times, nobody has gone and done it yet though
[13:59] <smarter> yup
[14:00] <rgreening> smarter: color me impressed :P
[14:01] <smarter> rgreening: I can't seem to parse that sentence :]
[14:02] <rgreening> lol
[14:02] <rgreening> its a saying... I am impressed basically, just more colorfully so :P
[14:03] <smarter> oh, ok ;)
[14:03] <rgreening> I think its a great idea
[14:03] <rgreening> the more we can have common specs underneath, the better.
[14:29] <sebas>   Riddell: I'm in the hacklab, second floor now, catch me there
[14:47] <Riddell> sebas: I disagree, you're not in any of the rooms (and davidbarth moved so hard to meet you up with him anyway)
[14:48] <sebas> Riddell: eeh, I'm upstairs, but anyway, I don't *need* to meet
[14:48] <sebas> Sorry if it's hard to catch me though, I was in a board meeting with the GNOMEs
[14:48] <sebas> It's not like I prefer meeting to hacking or something
[15:28] <maco> have any of you seen weirdness in Akregator where if you sort ascending by date, articles are single spaced, but if you sort descending, they're double spaced?
[15:34] <a|wen> maco: i've experienced that some enties with line-break in the title will make all the entries double-space ... this only happens if the entry is part of the first page of visible entries
[15:35] <maco> oooooh that's interesting, thanks!
[15:35] <maco> that's what it is!
[15:35] <a|wen> that was a lucky hit :) ... probably a bug in any case i suspect
[15:37] <maco> probably tries to make them uniform in height
[15:38] <maco> i'd just strip the \n
[15:38] <maco> or only include the first line
[15:39] <a|wen> yeah ... though it works fine when it moves down the list; the line-break is transformed to a long space, so why not do that always
[15:40]  * ScottK hands a|wen bugs.kde.org
[15:42] <a|wen> was pulling myself together for it ... but i'm still mildly stated not friends with their search-function
[15:42] <maco> its bugzilla. what more to say?
[15:43] <a|wen> exactly
[16:00] <Riddell> Sput, EgS: either of you at GCDS?
[16:03] <ScottK> Riddell: I know Sput is in .au right now.
[16:04] <a|wen> maco: which version of KDE did you experience it in?
[16:05] <a|wen> maco: kde bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199441 ... if you have experienced it in a newer version of KDE than me, please add a comment
[16:05] <EgS> Riddell: none of us
[16:11] <Riddell> EgS: that's fine, it was just someone who wanted to find you and report bugs in person :)
[16:14] <ScottK> Safer at a distance anyway.
[16:17] <nixternal> ScottK: took a look at minirok...not gonna do it, relies on gstreamer for one and it is a bit buggy on the kde side...not much of a smaller foot print imho
[16:18] <ScottK> OK.  Good to know.
[16:18] <nixternal> i did see something interesting that gave me an idea
[16:18] <ScottK> Uh oh.
[16:19] <nixternal> there is a video player plasmoid written with phonon, and that might be a pretty cool thing to look into...a plasmoid video and audio player...shouldn't be all that difficult, and it just needs to support the common methods
[16:19] <ScottK> Sounds like worth looking into.
[16:19] <ScottK> Having that embedded in the 'desktop' would be cool.
[16:19] <nixternal> right
[16:20] <nixternal> the video part is done, minus some minor bug fixes
[16:20] <nixternal> the audio portion would be really easy I think
[16:20] <nixternal> hell, with 5 lines of code you have an audio player
[16:20] <nixternal> add some last.fm support, podcast support, and the simple stuff like that
[16:20] <nixternal> daap
[16:20] <nixternal> all of the code is already out there too, which is nice
[16:50] <maco> a|wen, karmic's 4.2.95. comment added
[16:51] <a|wen> thx maco
[16:57] <Riddell> yuriy: you got a round of applause during my session for the openoffice KDE work
[17:13] <yuriy> Riddell: :) and shtylman i hope
[17:13] <Riddell> yes indeed
[17:15] <nixternal> I want a round of applause :(
[17:15] <nixternal> someone clap, do it now!!
[17:15] <nixternal> whistle loudly too
[17:16] <nixternal> I still want to know why you guys were talking bad about me at gcds during the ev meeting :p
[17:16] <Riddell> huh?  we were?
[17:18] <Riddell> nixternal: no round of applause yet but the openbossa guys (who are doing the plasma netbook stuff) are very excited about kubuntu netbook and are feeling the kubuntu love that you and ScottK have been working on it and interested in it
[17:19] <ScottK> Riddell: Please invite them to come hang out with us in #kubuntu-netbook.
[17:19] <Riddell> good idea, I'll do that when I bump into them
[17:19] <ScottK> On a related note, the carrying case for my mini 10v arrived today.  Still no actual netbook though.
[17:20] <nixternal> lol
[17:20] <nixternal> I need a carrying case
[17:20] <nixternal> exit
[17:20] <nixternal> err, that was weird
[17:22] <nixternal> http://www.rei.com/product/748541
[17:22] <nixternal> that is the one I want
[17:23] <ScottK> It's almost got a Debian swirl on it.
[17:24] <nixternal> ya it does, they make really nice bags
[17:24] <nixternal> I have one of their larger bags that I used during my commute on a bik
[17:24] <nixternal> you can't beat messenger bags
[17:25] <nixternal> OK, lunch time..I am starving...lots of rice today, mmmmmmm chinese food
[17:29] <maco> ScottK, cool!
[17:40] <Riddell> asac: wstephenson says networkmanager widget is going through rewrite and has been broken for last month or so, not a good time to package it
[17:40] <Riddell> asac: he says he isn't aware of the passphrase changes in 0.7.1 and could you please forward him the relevant NM commits
[17:41] <Riddell> wstephenson@kde.org
[17:49] <asac> Riddell: thanks. i think i know him from #nm channel ... thought he was only working on knetworkmanager (at least last time he said he had no business in it)
[17:53] <Riddell> he's doing the plasma-widget-nm, someone else did knetworkmanager which is pretty unmaintained now
[18:01] <Riddell> hsitter: we should update the kde-l10n-xx packages
[18:02] <hsitter> Riddell: aye, grab the pagkes and run batl10n :)
[18:02] <hsitter> Riddell: that said, does KDE only release l10n packages after they are done removing/moving/renaming... the translation domains?
[18:03] <Riddell> well it's RC time, nothing should be changing locatio now
[18:03] <hsitter> ok
[18:03] <Riddell> what does batl10n do?
[18:04] <hsitter> Riddell: recompress the new tars, get old package, move old debian to new source, runs dch, debuilds, moves to seperate directory for upload
[18:04] <hsitter> I suppose there is a manpage
[18:09] <Tm_T> do we (Kubuntu) have any UbuntuOne development going on?
[18:11] <ScottK> Tm_T: We (Kubuntu) don't, AFAIK, but we did have a session with the UbuntuOne people at UDS and I know they have some interest.
[18:11] <ScottK> They also recently advertised for an Akonadi developer.
[18:11] <Tm_T> ScottK: sounds good, I get more and more questions "when UBuntuOne will run in Kubuntu?"
[18:12] <ScottK> I'd ask them.
[18:18] <Tm_T> ScottK: I'll try ask it again, haven't got any proper answer yet (or I have missed them)
[18:28] <Nightrose> Tm_T: there is a bug report on launchpad with the current status
[18:28] <Tm_T> Nightrose: hmm, thanks (:
[18:42] <Riddell> actually they just demoed akonadi talking to couchDB (used by ubuntu one)
[18:42] <hsitter> uhm
[18:43] <Tm_T> Riddell: hmm, did jono dent it?
[18:43] <kwwii_> Riddell: just got your sms, I am back at home already
[18:43] <Tm_T> (what a word, dent)
[18:43] <kwwii_> Riddell: I did not take the photo, I just yelled at everyone to get in place :p
[18:43] <hsitter> Riddell: arora got no translation in place
[18:43] <hsitter> nothing at all
[18:44] <Tm_T> hsitter: well, current git is broken and I don't know how I go back in revisions using git
[18:44]  * hsitter doesn't know how to do that in any VCS :P
[18:45] <Tm_T> hsitter: in svn it's easy, just -r <revisionnumber>
[18:45] <hsitter> so, rather than going back, you should probably fix it :P
[18:45] <Tm_T> broke after some merge so no idea about it myself (:)
[18:45] <hsitter> Tm_T: well, ask the google
[18:46] <Tm_T> hsitter: nah, I rather struggle with broken svn trunk builds
[18:46] <hsitter> that can be fixed at least :P
[18:46]  * Tm_T is using his gsm as net connection
[18:47] <hsitter> Tm_T: do you know some arora dev?
[18:47] <Tm_T> hsitter: not yet (;
[18:48] <Tm_T> or, atleast I don't know I know
[18:48] <hsitter> go find one and ask whether they will have translations by end of september
[18:48] <hsitter> cause if not, I will kick it off the seed and free up space :P
[18:48] <hsitter> space ftw!
[18:48] <Riddell> kwwii_: any idea who did take it then?
[18:49] <Riddell> hsitter: dpkg -L arora | grep local
[18:49] <Riddell> that includes  /usr/share/arora/locale/de_DE.qm
[18:49] <Riddell> so it has translations in theory
[18:49] <hsitter> hm
[18:50] <hsitter> I am wondering where it is in the source
[18:50] <hsitter> anyway
[18:50] <hsitter> I am downloading current live
[18:50] <hsitter> gotta give it a real live test
[18:50] <Tm_T> hsitter: I used my old charm in #arora
[18:51] <hsitter> Riddell: also got the qm files on jaunty, but arora is not willing to speak german to me
[18:51] <hsitter> OH
[18:51] <hsitter> OHHHHHH
[18:52] <hsitter> Help -> Switch language
[18:52] <Tm_T> hsitter: should follow system settings, right?
[18:52] <hsitter> Tm_T: screw that question ... new question is: will arora be able to actually use the system language
[18:52] <ScottK> It'd be handy if Rosetta would speak .qm too
[18:53] <Tm_T> hsitter: well, I twisted it to distros and package maintaining
[18:53] <hsitter> so we can reduce the quality huh? :P
[18:53] <ScottK> hsitter: Yes.
[18:53] <ScottK> Actually so that all the languages didn't take up CD space.
[18:54] <hsitter> that being said
[18:55] <hsitter> please make the arora package use LZMA
[18:55] <hsitter> hail lzma for decreased update time \o/
[18:56] <Tm_T> hsitter: http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/Translating
[18:56] <Tm_T> there you go son
[18:57] <hsitter> -(~/ISOs:$)-> env|grep LANG
[18:57] <hsitter> LANG=de_AT.UTF-8
[18:57] <hsitter> LANGUAGE=de_AT:de
[18:57] <hsitter> Tm_T: ^
[18:57] <Tm_T> hsitter: yes?
[18:57] <hsitter> why did my arora speak english
[18:57] <Tm_T> hsitter: you're saying it doesn't follow?
[18:57] <hsitter> live cd will tell
[18:58] <hsitter> that is, if it works in virtualbox
[18:58] <hsitter> which is doubtable
[18:58] <Tm_T> hsitter: hummm
[18:58] <Tm_T> 2057.10 < icefox> We have a Language class in Arora that is suppose to  correctly detect it, if it isn't working properly it should  be pretty easy to open up and see what is wrong
[18:59] <hsitter> Riddell: kdm autologin is broken on current live
[18:59] <hsitter> oh
[18:59] <hsitter> actually X is crashing
[18:59] <hsitter> \o/
[18:59] <ScottK> hsitter: You can't haz kernel mode setting no doubt.
[19:00] <hsitter> yeps
[19:00] <hsitter> so, karmic is broken beyond repair
[19:00] <ScottK> No, just disable kms when you boot.
[19:00] <hsitter> ScottK: how to
[19:01] <ScottK> See the response to jjesse's latest on kubuntu-deve
[19:01] <ScottK> l
[19:01] <hsitter> IMHO one of those students who do analysis of floss should probably take a look at the pattern in which ubuntu foundations break :P
[19:06]  * ScottK notices he forgot to eat today.  See you all a bit later.
[19:08] <hsitter> meh, now the mouse is not working
[19:08] <hsitter> -.-
[19:35] <hsitter> Tm_T: I have found the issue
[19:36] <hsitter> Tm_T: it doesn't work if lang != local file
[19:36] <hsitter> so
[19:36] <hsitter> if I was using de_DE it would work
[19:36] <Tm_T> aww
[19:36] <hsitter> but since I am on de_AT it doesn't
[19:37] <hsitter> so, I suppose the language class should have some fallback system
[19:48] <Riddell> does Qt really not handle this?
[20:13] <kwwii_> Riddell: not sure who she was, but the (I think malaysian) girl took several fotos with her camera...I could have swore I saw her today at the airport
[20:14] <kwwii_> the race thing is just a total guess though, so nobody take it personaly
[20:36] <kb9vqf> Hey, anyone here remember how the old KDE3.5 l10n packages were generated?
[20:37] <kb9vqf> Is there a master source package somewhere that I can download?
[20:37]  * kb9vqf doesn't want to maintain several hundred l10n packages
[20:38] <hsitter> well, not several hundred :P
[20:38] <hsitter> kb9vqf: there is no master source package
[20:38] <hsitter> though, debian AFAIK maintained it in that way
[20:38] <kb9vqf> bummer
[20:38] <kb9vqf> maybe I'll import from Debian then
[20:38] <hsitter> so you could take a look at that and adopt it for your ppa
[20:39]  * kb9vqf was joking about the several hundred...it just looks that way at first glance
[20:39] <kb9vqf> thanks!
[21:12] <ryanakca> nhandler: http://wiki.ryanak.ca/kubuntu/ , look at You are here: :)
[21:14] <nhandler> Where am I?
[21:14] <nhandler> Oh, lol
[21:15] <nhandler> ryanakca: Is it working? It says Ryanak wiki and links to wiki.kubuntu.org. Would it work properly when live and correctly determine when to use wiki.ubuntu.com and wiki.kubuntu.org?
[21:16] <ryanakca> nhandler: No, the link will always go to wiki.kubuntu.org, but the name will say "Ubuntu" or "Kubuntu" ... If you *really* want me to, I can try to figure out how to use javascript inside of href="" tags though, just reopen the bug and assign me :)
[21:17] <beda_> I was trying to install kubuntu-daily build (karmic) but got this message. "Udevd [1974]: Worker 2120 unexpectedly returned with 0" You know why?
[21:17] <beda_> there was some I/O error on device sr0 as well
[21:17] <nhandler> ryanakca: Yeah, I think that would be nice ;) Sorry for the extra work
[21:17] <ryanakca> nhandler: no worries :)
[21:19] <nhandler> ryanakca: Done
[21:22] <beda_> kinda quiet here...
[21:25] <a|wen> beda_: many of the regulars are at the desktop summit ... so very quiet atm.
[21:25] <beda_> ahh...
[21:26] <a|wen> beda_: haven't heard about that error ... you might try in #ubuntu+1 or the like (udev is lower-level stuff, so not something we can do anything about)
[21:26] <beda_> ok
[21:26] <beda_> thanks
[21:29] <a|wen> at least I don't know anything about udev...
[21:48] <hsitter> seriously
[21:48] <hsitter> triaging kdepim is a big PITA
[21:49] <hsitter> I can't even reproduce half the crap due to lack of equipment
[21:51] <nixternal> hsitter: what do you need to triage? I might have the equip to help, unless you say a palm or some crap
[21:51] <hsitter> palm
[21:51] <hsitter> kolab servers
[21:52] <nixternal> haha, I figured as much
[21:52] <hsitter> that kind of stuff
[21:52] <nixternal> you can probably confirm every palm issue and send it upstream to be honest
[21:52] <nixternal> last I tried, which was within in the past 6 months, it was a mess
[21:52] <nixternal> and I am sure it still is
[21:53]  * nixternal notes you don't have those problems with Irssi :p
[21:53] <hsitter> irssi vs. palm?
[21:53] <nixternal> no, smarter an ELITE_x
[21:53] <nixternal> s/an/and
[21:53] <ELITE_x> ^^
[21:54]  * a|wen actually has an old palm in the basement
[21:55] <hsitter> go fix kpilot then :P
[21:55] <hsitter> nixternal: and you go triage bugs :P
[21:55] <a|wen> well all my current computers lack a serial port :P
[21:56] <smarter> nixternal: I won't have those problems either if I had a quasselcore running on a distant server :p
[21:57] <nixternal> hsitter: what should I triage?
[21:57] <nixternal> give me a list and I will do it
[21:57] <hsitter> bug 370526 is eww
[21:57] <nixternal> right now, I would rather write code to be honest than deal with the slow ass Launchpad
[21:57] <beda_> Anyone working on kpackagekit (GUI mainly) I know Tonio_ is but he is not here?
[21:57] <hsitter> nixternal: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status:list=NEW&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY
[21:57] <nixternal> jesus
[21:58] <nixternal> can you tinyurl that please
[21:58] <hsitter> with chrome launchpad is actually quite fast :P
[21:58] <hsitter> nixternal: poor irssi, huh? :P
[21:58] <ELITE_x> ahaha
[21:58] <ELITE_x> good one
[21:58] <ELITE_x> :P
[21:58] <hsitter> nixternal: http://tinyurl.com/kr3yc2
[21:58] <nixternal> that was a good one
[21:58] <nixternal> but it is IRC ettiquette to actually shorten a URL instead of filling the screen
[21:59] <hsitter> yeah, because irssi users have problems opening it otherwise :P
[21:59] <Monika|K> there are clients where you can click on URLs ;)
[21:59] <nixternal> gui clients get in the way
[21:59] <hsitter> besides
[21:59]  * hsitter blames launchpad
[21:59] <hsitter> why does it add empty query fields
[22:00] <nixternal> that means I have to use kdepim to triage this stuff
[22:01] <hsitter> well, I don't use it either :P
[22:01] <hsitter> though it is highly depressing
[22:01] <Monika|K> You could triage Bug 397155
[22:01] <nixternal> haha
[22:02]  * hsitter leaves nixternal alone with kdepim and changes his urly to kde4libs
[22:02] <nixternal> dude, X doesn't even restart after restart of X server :p
[22:02] <hsitter> poor X
[22:02] <Monika|K> what?
[22:02] <hsitter> though
[22:02] <hsitter> hold on!
[22:02] <hsitter> didn't we like turn restart off by default?
[22:03] <nixternal> well, he doesn't use ctrl+alt+backspace according to the report
[22:03] <nixternal> he does it through ctrl+alt+del
[22:03] <nixternal> which made me chuckle
[22:03] <Monika|K> I have activated Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[22:03] <Monika|K> and it happens after reboot, too
[22:03] <nixternal> err, that is Monika|K so she
[22:03] <nixternal> ;p
[22:03]  * nixternal tries ctrl+alt+del
[22:03]  * hsitter notes that sometimes X restarts can cause quite awful issues, when not the whole session's apps quit
[22:03] <hsitter> which happens at times
[22:03] <hsitter> in general
[22:03] <nixternal> whew, that scared me
[22:04] <hsitter> IMHO such stuff is to be expected
[22:04] <nixternal> the screen went black for a second, before anything popped up
[22:04] <Monika|K> but then it shouldn't happen after a normal reboot, harald, should it?
[22:04] <nixternal> Monika|K: no it shouldn't
[22:04] <hsitter> no
[22:04] <hsitter> blame nvidia
[22:04] <Monika|K> it's an ATI card
[22:04] <hsitter> blame ATI then
[22:04] <Monika|K> I do
[22:04] <nixternal> In /var/log/Xorg.0.log there are no lines with (EE). Should I attach it anyway? Which other log files are relevant?
[22:04] <Monika|K> didn't solve the problem
[22:05] <hsitter> cookies for intel I say
[22:05] <nixternal> Monika|K: ^^ yes, attach it, and also ~/.xsession-errors
[22:05] <Monika|K> no Cookies for Intel
[22:05] <Monika|K> lots of pixely errors on my Netbook with Intel card
[22:05]  * nixternal is guessing it is related to the dual screen config, though I do not have that issue at the moment (GO INTEL!)
[22:06] <hsitter> I don't get bug 276239
[22:06] <hsitter> copy always works for me
[22:06] <hsitter> always worked for me
[22:06] <hsitter> even in the crazy times I used fluxbox and gnome
[22:06] <hsitter> even when I was on brokensuse and uglyredhat :P
[22:07] <Monika|K> hm, I am on Kubuntu 8.04 ... I can't access my ext4 file system for the 9.04 from here, can I?
[22:08] <smarter> hsitter: does ctrl+maj+z (undo) works for you?
[22:08] <smarter> it stopped working here after I upgraded to 4.3(beta1 iirc)
[22:08] <hsitter> work where?
[22:08] <nixternal> "Hey we are in version 4.2.4 and this problem is not solved yet, why so?"   <- hsitter I hate when people do this....
[22:08] <smarter> hsitter: try kate
[22:08] <nixternal> response should be: "BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PAID YOUR BILL!"
[22:08] <maco> smarter, whats maj?
[22:08] <hsitter> nixternal: +1
[22:08] <smarter> oh
[22:08] <smarter> shift
[22:09] <hsitter> lemme use that response and invalidfy :P
[22:09] <smarter> It's majuscule in French, sorry ;)
[22:09] <maco> ah
[22:09]  * hsitter is wondering if maco doesn't speak french
[22:09] <hsitter> smarter: so where is that supposed to work, because it is really depending on the application
[22:10] <maco> hsitter,  i decided spanish was easy and switched to a totally different language family for a challenge
[22:10] <hsitter> some apps doen't even support ctrl+shift+z but just ctrl+z
[22:10] <maco> i thought ctrl+z was the norm
[22:10] <hsitter> maco: I see :)
[22:10] <hsitter> well
[22:10] <hsitter> what is norm anyway :P
[22:10] <smarter> hmm, I meant redo
[22:10] <smarter> so, launch Kate, type stuff, ctrl+z, ctrl+shift+z
[22:10] <nixternal> thought redo was ctrl+y
[22:11] <hsitter> smarter: get your shortcut setup right :P
[22:11] <smarter> ctrl+maj+z, is for KDE, ctrl+y is for $restoftheworld
[22:11] <hsitter> oh
[22:11] <nixternal> right
[22:11] <hsitter> xmas songs \o/
[22:11] <hsitter> only 6 months till xmas
[22:11] <hsitter> hrrrhrr
[22:12] <maco> why is there kde v. restoftheworld?
[22:12] <smarter> no idea
[22:13] <smarter> so, does it work for you or not? :p
[22:14] <hsitter> well, I am not on 4.3
[22:14] <hsitter> though, it is pretty much the same as with klipper
[22:15] <hsitter> working + always worked
[22:16] <smarter> anyone on 4.3?
[22:17] <smarter> ctrl+c is a bit of a black magic here, sometimes it copies, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes you get random stuff
[22:26] <nixternal> smarter: I have witnessed that in the past actually
[22:26] <nixternal> haven't tried recently, or don't remember trying recently at least
[22:26] <smarter> the redo thing?
[22:26] <smarter> well, just open kate :p
[22:27] <nixternal> no, ctrl+c pasting weird things at times
[22:38] <heHATEme> yizidy
[22:39] <hsitter> why would I care about bug 381447 ?
[22:48] <Monika|K> attached the files
[22:53] <ryanakca> nhandler: Try again :)
[23:32] <ScottK-desktop> Monika|K: (It didn't appear anyone answered this): No you can't access an ext4 partition from 8.04.  If you could you wouldn't want to ask ext4 a year and a half ago was pretty buggy.
[23:33] <Monika|K> thanks for the answer, Scott
[23:34] <Monika|K> it's not unstable anymore in 9.04, is it?
[23:34] <ScottK-desktop> It's not perfect, but it's a supported file system.