[00:01] <BlueChili> you may try to download the plugin manually
[00:01] <L3d> hi
[00:01] <BlueChili> seevee: what's the uotput of: ls /usr/lib/mozilla
[00:01] <L3d> any one know a good ati 9000 drv ??
[00:02] <L3d> its sommetin ubuntu changed right ?
[00:02] <BlueChili> seevee: sorry it's ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[00:02] <L3d> upd manager ?
[00:03] <BlueChili> L3d: there's a problem with Xorg and ati drivers
[00:03] <L3d> 3rd?
[00:03] <L3d> im gona search
[00:03] <L3d> .
[00:03] <L3d> .. damn double clicks
[00:04] <L3d> eh ticks ..
[00:04] <BlueChili> L3d: the solution it's to roll back xorg to the previous version, the one shipped with Intrepid if I recall
[00:05] <L3d> 8.04 ? can u say what version xorg?
[00:05] <BlueChili> L3d: 8.10's version
[00:06] <L3d> wil do and i gued
[00:06] <L3d> gues its just the prev version
[00:06] <L3d> thnx man
[00:07] <seevee> Bluechili: ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins gives flashplugin-alternative.so
[00:07] <BlueChili> L3d: ok, google it a bit, it should come up within the top reults
[00:08] <BlueChili> seevee: whatś happens is that you have installed a version of flash, probably from gnash, so the alternatives and the propietary plash plugin don't get along
[00:09] <nikitis> Is there a good web page designer for linux?
[00:09] <BlueChili> seevee: on your package manager search for flash, remove any plugin, gnash, swfdec or whatever
[00:10] <seevee> BlueChili: ok, but the package manager gives me the bomb nearly every time I run it.
[00:13] <BlueChili> seeve: that may act as a flash alternative, then again do a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:14] <seevee> ok. in process.
[00:15] <BlueChili> seevee: if the package manager it's kicking you, open konsole and use aptitude ;)
[00:15] <seevee> BlueChili: You rock!
[00:16] <seevee> it's running.
[00:16] <seevee> I removed in pkg mgr and ran the apt-get command, restarted firefox, and it works.
[00:17] <BlueChili> seevee: nice :)
[00:24] <BlueChili> !info kopmoze
[00:24] <BlueChili> !info kompoze
[00:49] <typ30n3gativ3> how do i back up my kmail?
[01:59] <emarus> Hey there everyone - I've got Ubuntu 9.04 installed (also tried this on 8.1) and the NIC that I'm using is a 3com 3c900-tpo. It's not being recognized as an 'eth' but rather as 'pan0'. I can't use it at all. Any ideas?
[02:02] <Serpardum> you try googling for something like "eth pan0 nic ubuntu" ?
[02:02] <Serpardum> and you might want to try in #ubuntu
[02:12] <akSeya> guys.. i have some problem with with my touchpad.. probably you all may know what I'll say next..
[02:13] <akSeya> while I'm typing, if I touch it with my hand, it clicks elsewhere
[02:13] <wirechief_> akSeya: what lappy ?
[02:13] <akSeya> it's an Acer Aspire 5920
[02:13] <wirechief_> ah ha
[02:14] <wirechief_> using fn f7 might toggle it on/off
[02:14] <akSeya> yeah.. but I don't want to turn it off..
[02:14] <wirechief_> it worked on my Acer Aspire one
[02:14] <wirechief_> oh
[02:14] <wirechief_> hehe well ok
[02:15] <wirechief_> google synclient
[02:15] <akSeya> i was trying to use gsynaptics to configure it.. but had no success
[02:15] <wirechief_> there are tricks for making it wait a few seconds before moving
[02:15] <fg56lx> Is there any other type of package management besides kpackagekit? (like the old add/remove or aptitude in 8.10)
[02:16] <wirechief_> i use a external mouse, that mousepad is a total disaster when trying to type
[02:18] <eamonn> Hey, I have an annoying issue with kpackagekit, anyone know if its common?
[02:19] <emarus> Thanks Serpardum - I've tried both of those things, to no avail... It's a curious problem
[02:20] <eamonn> Nobody?
[02:22] <eamonn> Anyone have a problem with kpackagekit, one that results in it telling you that a synched process took too long, and that they need to fork?
[02:22] <rodolfojcj> good night <---> buenas noches
[02:22] <rodolfojcj> greetings for everyone <---> saludos para todos
[02:24] <eamonn> No bites?  Darn.
[02:25] <eamonn> Does anyone have a consise way to apply the alredy cached updates with apt, then?
[02:27] <eamonn> What do you do on an IRC server other then talk!?
[02:28] <bazhang> eamonn, support for Kubuntu OS here, chit chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <eamonn> If anyone wants me to stfu and go away, just say so :(
[02:29] <eamonn> Hello, anybody there?
[02:30] <bazhang> yes, support question eamonn ?
[02:30] <eamonn> I can hear my own echo in here...
[02:31] <fetusbubble> just for the sake of it.
[02:31] <fetusbubble> 18:21:51 | < eamonn> Anyone have a problem with kpackagekit, one that results in it telling you that a synched process took too long, and that they need to fork?
[02:31] <eamonn> Yeah.  I was not sure if I was connected.
[02:32] <eamonn> Anyhow, anybody know about that?
[02:32] <eamonn> I would not be surprised if someone'd fixed the bug, but I can't do anything about it, as the bug manifests it's self as I try to apply updates!
[02:33] <eamonn> I never had a problem with Adept, up to and including the point at which I used it to upgrade.
[02:33] <m4v> I get that bug sometimes, I just ignore it and fire up apt-get
[02:33] <akSeya> i changed the some configurations on xorg.conf, but synclient changes are not working at all
[02:34] <eamonn> How do I apply the cached updates with apt-get?
[02:34] <akSeya> for example, a simple synclient -m 100 should show some info about pressure on the touchpad
[02:34] <m4v> eamonn: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:34] <m4v> eamonn: probably the upgrade is enough though
[02:35] <rodolfojcj> do you know how to set a transparent taskbar with KDE 4.2 Kubuntu 9.04 ???
[02:35] <eamonn> Someone prolly fixed the bug?  Thanks.
[02:36] <fetusbubble> has anyone ever heard of random letters being inputed during high load.. even if i haven't touched the keyboard?
[02:37] <eamonn> It decided to keep back four updates regarding lunix headers.  Is this normal?
[02:37] <eamonn> No, though sometimes it randomly clicks, putting my cursor in the middle of a word.
[02:37] <m4v> eamonn: yes, if you do want to update the kernel use apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <eamonn> Wait
[02:38] <eamonn> it did something
[02:38] <eamonn> I can't dump all of the text here, but let me see...
[02:38] <m4v> !paste | eamonn
[02:38] <fg57lx> Is there any package manager in 9.04 like the old add/remove and aptitude package managers in 8.10?
[02:39] <eamonn> Thanks.
[02:39] <eamonn> Yeah, we want the old packagers back, KPK fails :(
[02:39] <akSeya> serv identify g4br13l
[02:39] <m4v> you can install adept
[02:39] <eamonn> it tells me that there is a corrupted filesystem tarfile
[02:39] <fg57lx> eamonn: Yes, KPK is very lame.
[02:40] <eamonn> And... oh no, corrupted package archive
[02:40] <fg57lx> It just intalled fine for me.
[02:40] <eamonn> rrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/cups_1.3.9-17ubuntu3.2_i386.deb
[02:40] <fg57lx> Try downloading the .deb from the ubuntu package database.
[02:41] <akSeya> nice... :S
[02:41] <m4v> is hard to guess without the complete error log
[02:41] <fg57lx> eamonn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/adept There you go.
[02:41] <eamonn> That would be nice if my package man was not crashing on me :(
[02:42] <eamonn> I tried it with kpackage kit, hit the same brick wall that it always does.
[02:42] <fg57lx> Is there not an add/remove anymore though? So you can browse through each category?
[02:43] <eamonn> I don't know.  I also don't know if I should just call it a loss, move my files, and install a clean OS
[02:44] <eamonn> Coulden't it be a persistant problem with OOword or something?  It had to be the package maniger...
[02:45] <eamonn> Anyone know where I can find a non-corrupt copy of "cups_1.3.9-17ubuntu3.2_i386.deb"?
[02:46] <eamonn> So, nobody has anything new to add?
[02:47] <eamonn> (again, stop me if I get annoying)
[02:47] <fg56lx> !add/remove
[02:47] <bazhang> best to wait more than a minute to get an answer.
[02:49] <eamonn> I'll see what add/remove programs is called, hold on
[02:50] <Daemon> any way to download youtube videos ?
[02:50] <eamonn> There are several ways.
[02:51] <eamonn> Do you have flash and everything?
[02:51] <eamonn> (Firefox with the flash plugin)
[02:51] <Daemon> eamonn: yup
[02:51] <bazhang> youtube-dl Daemon
[02:51] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | Daemon
[02:52] <eamonn> You win.
[02:52] <bazhang> Daemon, youtube-dl -t url
[02:53] <akSeya> any idea why synclient changes are not working on the fly? here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m5a9c9b68
[02:53] <eamonn> Apt-get only downloads the packages, or does it install them also?
[02:53] <Daemon> bazhang: ty is that a synaptic package or command line
[02:53] <eamonn> Search for it in synaptic.
[02:54] <bazhang> Daemon, I think you mean gui or command line; sudo apt-get install youtube-dl (use from the Konsole) ; apt-cache search youtube will give some results as well
[02:54] <eamonn> Ohh, meticafe DL too... just in case someone wanted to DL from that.
[02:55] <Daemon> sweetnes thanks guys
[02:55] <akSeya> it does not work on the fly, and changes are lost after restart :@
[02:56] <akSeya> I really don't get it...
[02:57] <Daemon> bazhang: any tips to using youtube-dl or were to find it
[02:58] <eamonn> What would be the command (or commands) to make apt install any upgrades or updates?
[02:59] <eamonn> try typing "man youtube-dl" into your terminal.  "man foo" will find foo's manual pages, and show them to you.
[02:59] <bazhang>  Daemon, youtube-dl -t url
[02:59] <bazhang> Daemon, I think you mean gui or command line; sudo apt-get install youtube-dl (use from the Konsole) ; apt-cache search youtube will give some results as well
[03:00] <eamonn> He means where in his GUI
[03:00] <eamonn> not where to find the package
[03:00] <david_> got an apt-get lock can't undo...forgot all the different ways to fix...anyone remind me pls?
[03:01] <david_> apt-get install -f doesn't work, neither does dpkg --configure -a
[03:01] <bazhang> !aptfix | david_
[03:02] <Daemon> bazhang: ok i have installed the youtube-dl package now how do i use it
[03:02] <eamonn> man youtube-dl
[03:03] <Daemon> eamonn: what is man
[03:04] <eamonn> Daemon: it is a command to look up the manual page of the command.
[03:04] <david_> bazhang: thank you, system unlocked now :-)
[03:04] <eamonn> Daemon: Type man man, it'll explain it's self (skip the complicated-looking part and read the description)
[03:05] <bazhang> Daemon, no need to man; in konsole (command line), type : youtube-dl -t (url of the video you want to download here)
[03:05] <eamonn> Daemon: When I say 'type', I mean open up a terminal and type it.
[03:06] <Daemon> lemme try it
[03:06] <bazhang> Daemon, you need a youtube url to do it with.
[03:09] <Daemon> bazhang: seems to be working now were do i find my videos
[03:09] <bazhang> Daemon, check your home folder
[03:13] <bittin> somone here knows anything about wvdail?
[03:13] <Daemon> bazhang: any way to get a better quality video?
[03:14] <bazhang> Daemon, from youtube?
[03:14] <Daemon> bazhang: yes sir
[03:15] <bazhang> Daemon, afaik their video quality is quite low
[03:18] <BluesKaj> youtube does have an HD section
[03:19] <glennwhip> my processor: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58, should i be using 64bit version or is 32 bit OK?
[03:21] <kaotikzen> you can use either
[03:22] <glennwhip> i've been using 32bit but i just wanted to be sure
[03:24] <kaotikzen> you might find 64 bit to be a bit faster
[03:24] <kaotikzen> might is an operative word there though
[03:25] <bittin> somone know how to get mobile broadband to work with wvdail?
[03:25] <glennwhip> seems it's harder to find programs for 64bit
[03:26] <glennwhip> this kde 4.3 rc is a nice piece of work
[03:27] <linuxman410> is kde 4.3 included in karmic 9.10
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Yes
[03:27] <linuxman410> cool downloading now
[03:35] <bittin> here is the error: http://pastebin.se/198471
[03:42] <fg56lx> Is there any reason that updates would be rediculously slow? I get great down speeds usually, but im installing quite a few programs and its going very slow. Over an hour to fetch 70mb.
[03:49] <akSeya> i see some sites about installing kde3 on kubuntu 9.04 , the problem is that they point to http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ and I get only ERROR 403 on that site
[03:49] <akSeya> is there any other way to install kde3 on kubuntu 9.04?
[03:50] <akSeya> or should I stay with 8.04?
[03:52] <fg56lx> akSeya: There is the KDE3.5 remix of 9.04.
[03:53] <terettes15> i need help
[03:53] <fetusbubble> what with?
[03:53] <fg56lx> !question | terettes15
[03:54] <terettes15> installing programs. every time i try to install one it gives me this message - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[03:54] <akSeya> fg56lx, but since I already have 9.04 installed, isn't there a way to install kde3.5 over it?
[03:54] <akSeya> i found some how to, but as I said, they refers to that site...
[03:54] <terettes15> i have tried everything to fix it but nothing is working
[03:55] <dannei> en español
[03:55] <glennwhip> akSeya: why you want 3.5 ... 4.3 is so much better
[03:55] <fg56lx> akSeya: I'm pretty sure there is.
[03:55] <fg56lx> glennwhip: Not at all. KDE4 is horrible.
[03:56] <akSeya> glennwhip, it has some nice visual features...
[03:56] <fg56lx> But this isnt the place for that discussion.
[03:56] <terettes15> and i have been on here many times and no one answers me back
[03:56] <akSeya> but I don't like it.. this visual features are not really necessary
[03:56] <fg56lx> akSeya: you should be able to just add the kde3 repos, and then 'sudo apt-get install kde3-desktop
[03:57] <stephens> does anyone know how to make a program use a certain network interface?
[03:57] <dannei> hola
[03:57] <fetusbubble> is there any difference between using aptitude and apt-get?
[03:57] <stephens> dannei: hola. Solo hablas espanol?
[03:57] <glennwhip> sorry just saying i liked 3.5 but now that i've used 4.x and got used to it is getting better
[03:57] <akSeya> fg56lx, yeap.. i tried that, but it said that that repo doesnt have the public signature
[03:58] <terettes15> me fetusbubble?
[03:58] <dannei> si, dime por favor donde consigo para chat en español
[03:58] <stephens> !es | dannei
[03:58] <fetusbubble> no, that was directed at everyone
[03:58] <dannei> gracias
[03:58] <terettes15> ok
[03:59] <akSeya> I found that the pgp should be in http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/public.gpg .. but as I said.. forbidden :(
[03:59] <bittin> no iam going to bed and trying to fix it when iam more non tired
[03:59] <fg56lx> fetusbubble: aptitude and apt-get are the same thing
[04:00] <terettes15> im trying to install programs. every time i try to install one it gives me this message - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:01] <fg56lx> akSeya: I wouldnt recommend using the 3.5 remix anyway. I tried it at first because i was appauled at kde4.1, and i encounted problems almost every day with the 3.5remix.
[04:01] <stephens> terettes15: I just ignore it. I checked a few times, and could not find a problem
[04:01] <terettes15> damn i cant instal any programs than
[04:01] <stephens> terettes15: try running sudo apt-get update in a a terminal
[04:01] <stephens> pastebin the output
[04:02] <stephens> !pastebin > terettes15
[04:02] <fg56lx> I would either recommend sticking with 8.04, switching to gnome, or updating from kde 4.2 to 4.3(4.2.95) There is quite a difference between them and 4.3 is actually pretty nice.
[04:05] <terettes15> tekteen: i have tried to update it through my terminal it didnt work
[04:05] <tekteen> terettes15: you need to pastebin your output
[04:05] <terettes15> how do i do that
[04:05] <tekteen> I had ubottu send you the pastebin link
[04:06] <tekteen> !pastebin > terettes15
[04:06] <terettes15> oh ok
[04:06] <akSeya> fg56lx, looks like the site is up again.. now I'm able to apt-get update
[04:06] <akSeya> already downloading kubuntu-desktop-kde3 ... hope it works ;)
[04:06] <terettes15> tekteen: im sorry im still learning what do you mean my output?
[04:07] <fg56lx> akSeya: I hope it works better for you than me. I just had problem after problem. And you cant get help here in the irc since its apparently ALOT different than kde4.
[04:07] <tekteen> you type sudo apt-get update in a terminal. Then a lot of lines are printed. I need to know what it said.
[04:08] <terettes15> ok
[04:09] <terettes15> tekteen: ok i now pasted it what do i do now?
[04:09] <tekteen> give me the link
[04:10] <tekteen> I am sure ubottu said that :-\
[04:10] <terettes15> no sorry
[04:11] <terettes15> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:11] <terettes15> i think thats it
[04:11] <tekteen> terettes15: the link to what you posted?
[04:11] <terettes15> yes
[04:12] <terettes15> tekteen: did it work?
[04:13] <tekteen> terettes15: did you click paste?
[04:14] <tekteen> if so, give me the url you are on right now
[04:15] <terettes15> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:15] <terettes15> that should be it. i clicked paste
[04:15] <tekteen> did you click paste after pasting it?
[04:15] <terettes15> yes
[04:15] <tekteen> terettes15: do it again. Put a name in the poster field
[04:16] <Serpardum> wht's the command to create a link?
[04:16] <tekteen> Serpardum: ln
[04:16] <tekteen> ln -s for a symbolic link
[04:16] <Serpardum> ln for LiNk  kay, thanks
[04:16] <Serpardum> what's diff between symbolic and regular?
[04:16] <terettes15> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/212363/
[04:16] <Serpardum> I've heard of symbolic links and that's what I've always thought of links as.
[04:17] <tekteen> Serpardum: regular is hard wired. That means that neither one is more "real" then the other
[04:17] <tekteen> but they need to be on the same partition
[04:17] <Serpardum> Oh, kinda like making a diectory entry pointing to the real entry.  got it
[04:17] <tekteen> symbolic links are pointers to the "real" file
[04:18] <Serpardum> kay, thanks
[04:18] <tekteen> Serpardum: there was no error :-\
[04:18] <tekteen> oops, wrong person
[04:18] <tekteen> terettes15:  there was no error :-\
[04:19] <tekteen> terettes15: now do sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:19] <terettes15> ok
[04:21] <tekteen> terettes15: did that cmd print any errors?
[04:21] <terettes15> no
[04:21] <tekteen> terettes15: then you should be good
[04:22] <terettes15> tekteen: now its saying some pachages could not be autheticated
[04:22] <tekteen> don't worry
[04:22] <terettes15> ok
[04:23] <terettes15> but when i go into adept installer i still get the same message and it wont let me install any of my programs
[04:24] <tekteen> terettes15: I do not know why
[04:24] <fg56lx> Is there any way to edit what is in the kmenu?
[04:24] <tekteen> terettes15: the issue is wit the gui. Not the your system
[04:24] <terettes15> i just need a new computer
[04:24] <tekteen> fg56lx: kmenueditor?
[04:25] <tekteen> fg56lx: kmenuedit
[04:25] <fg56lx> "Package kmenuedit is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[04:25] <tekteen> :-\
[04:25] <tekteen> I already have it installed
[04:25] <tekteen> did you check?
[04:26] <fg56lx> Ah, i did have it, just didnt have an icon for it in the editor.
[04:26] <fg56lx> Thanks.
[04:26] <tekteen> np
[04:26]  * tekteen needs to go
[04:26] <terettes15> tekteen: is there anyone else that might be able to help me
[04:26] <tekteen> terettes15: maybe
[04:27] <tekteen> I just waited until the update that fixed it
[04:27] <terettes15> oh
[04:27] <tekteen> you prob have an old version of kubuntu?
[04:27] <terettes15> yeah i do. this computer could hold anything else
[04:28] <terettes15> couldn't*
[04:29] <linuxman410> how old is your computer
[04:31] <terettes15> my computer was rebiult from a windows xp computer
[04:32] <linuxman410> what are the specs
[04:32] <terettes15> linuxman410: will you be on later
[04:33] <linuxman410> maybe if not i will be on early in morning
[04:33] <terettes15> ok cause i have to go
[04:33] <linuxman410> ok
[04:46] <KDesk> I want to download the source kdebase deb package of KDE 4.3rc that is used in Jaunty, where can I get it? Is it the same as the one of Karmic?
[04:46] <eamonn> I try to open firefox, and it tells me "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*."
[04:48] <fetusbub1le> .
[04:48] <fetusbub1le> failure
[04:51] <Serpardum> eamonn: https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44255
[04:52] <Serpardum> I just googled for "compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1" with quotes and it came up
[04:52] <Serpardum> google is your friend
[04:52] <eamonn> Well, how do you know that I have a working browser at all ;)
[04:52] <fg56lx> How can i diable the firefox icon in the system tray?
[04:52] <Serpardum> because one comes with kubuntu and this is #kubuntu
[04:52] <eamonn> I also googled it.  They told me to order it to "sudo xulrunner-1.9 --register-global", I did, and it was fixed.
[04:52] <eamonn> Google is, in deed, my friend :)
[04:53] <eamonn> Also, I'd suggest to everyone to have at least two browsers installed, in case one fails.
[04:53] <Serpardum> I always do
[04:53] <Serpardum> in windows, in linux, wheverever
[04:53] <eamonn> What is a good secondary for vanilla ubuntu?  Opera?
[04:53] <Serpardum> although you can ftp to netscape.com and ftp a browser there
[04:54] <Serpardum> I wonder if that's still active
[04:54] <fg56lx> Serpardum: Well, both Dolphin and Konqueror can browse the web, and they are both installed by default.
[04:54] <eamonn> If you are a guru.
[04:54] <eamonn> But if you are a guru, you probably won't have a problem in the first place.
[04:54] <Serpardum> I could never figure out how to put in a url in dolphin
[04:54] <eamonn> lol
[04:54] <eamonn> Dolphin can browse?
[04:54] <eamonn> Didn't bill gates try that?
[04:55] <eamonn> Yeah, and when he did it, it landed him in anti-trust court.
[04:55]  * fetusbubble tries it out of curiousity
[04:55] <Serpardum> but he did it anyway
[04:55] <eamonn> By implimenting that, is dolphin admitting that it is a good idea?
[04:55] <eamonn> Because I still think that it is a dumb idea.
[04:56] <eamonn> I think that you should have a GUI program, and subprograms that are connected via pipes that do the browsing/file messing.
[04:56] <Serpardum> I can't figure out how to open a web site in dolphin
[04:56] <fetusbubble> "Dolphin does not support web pages, the web browser has been launched"
[04:56] <Serpardum> how did you type in the url fetusbubble?
[04:56] <fetusbubble> Serpardum: right click on the location, edit, http://www.google.com
[04:57] <eamonn> Speaking of windows, on an other (fast) machine, I'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu.
[04:57] <eamonn> I'm so proud of ubuntu... it runs most of the games that I could find better.
[04:58] <eamonn> (Namely OpenGL games, such as Nexuiz and Assault Cube)
[04:58] <fetusbubble> except for the ones without a linux port or that don't play too well with wine ];
[04:58] <Serpardum> never heard of Assult Cube
[04:58] <Serpardum> or Nexuis really
[04:58] <fg56lx> How can i diable the firefox icon in the system tray?
[04:58] <Serpardum> delte it
[04:58] <eamonn> Haven't tried many WINE games...
[04:58] <eamonn> (on that comp anyway)
[04:59] <Serpardum> right click, delete
[04:59] <Serpardum> er, no
[04:59] <fg56lx> There is no delete.
[04:59] <Serpardum> hmm... left click and delete key?
[04:59] <Serpardum> If orget
[04:59] <eamonn> I wish Tiberian Sun worked on WINE...
[04:59] <Serpardum> let me get linux desktop up
[04:59] <fg56lx> Serpardum: This is in the "system tray"
[04:59] <eamonn> Left click, select "do not display"
[04:59] <Serpardum> oh you need to remove it
[04:59] <eamonn> On the KDE bar thing its...
[05:00] <eamonn> Right click, Ctl+R
[05:00] <Serpardum> right click and quit
[05:00] <fg56lx> Left click does nothing, neither does right click ctlr+r.
[05:00] <eamonn> What are you clicking on?
[05:01] <fetusbubble> speaking of that.. is there any way to run pidgin in the background on KDE? on gnome i know there's a 'notification area' thingie for the panels.. but on KDE it's totally different o.O
[05:01] <eamonn> The Icon in question, right?
[05:01] <fg56lx> Yes.
[05:01] <eamonn> There is a system tray
[05:01] <eamonn> Let me see what the name of the toy is
[05:01] <fg56lx> I found it.
[05:01] <eamonn> Yeah, it is system tray
[05:01] <fg56lx> ksystraycmd
[05:01] <fg56lx> Had to hide that.
[05:01] <eamonn> The pastebin thing is so cool, btw
[05:02] <eamonn> Being able to switch between copied strings
[05:02] <eamonn> Back on windows, I had to have a notepad window open as scratch paper :P
[05:03] <eamonn> hey, if I want to reinstall cupsd, what command would that be?
[05:03] <eamonn> "apt-get install cupsd"?
[05:03] <eamonn> My existing copy seems to be corrupt
[05:05] <eamonn> Hey, if anyone is having trouble with minimised apps not showing up
[05:06] <eamonn> The solution is to add the "task manager" widget to the bar.  That took me so long to figure out, and I'd hate for anyone else to have to.
[05:09] <MakkaPakka> Not sure if this belongs in here, or #kde:   dpkg: error processing ... kdebase-runtime... trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu', which is also in package kdesudo
[05:10] <MakkaPakka> Thats coming from following the 4.2.4 note in the /topic
[05:10] <MakkaPakka> How do I fix it?
[05:47] <silentContender> How do I fix this error? "Object::connect: No such signal KLineEdit::downPressed() in /build/buildd/amarok-2.1.1mysql5.1.30/amarok-2.1.1/src/widgets/ProgressiveSearchWidget.cpp:57
[05:47] <silentContender> QSystemTrayIcon::setVisible: No Icon set"
[05:58] <racecar56> why is pidgin starting up every time i start kde, i dont want it to do that
[06:03] <darthanubis> racecar56: close pidgin before you logoff
[06:03] <darthanubis> kde remembers running programs
[06:13] <yoga> After upgard to KDE 4.3 RC1, my Task Manager does not show any task at all.
[06:13] <racecar56_> darthanubis: is it possible to make it not remember it/ignore pidgin/something
[06:14] <QuantumKaos> hi guys, what about a good netbook for linux?
[06:20] <COm_BOY> Acer Aspire One
[06:20] <QuantumKaos> why?
[06:20] <QuantumKaos> and with what distro?
[06:20] <COm_BOY> is better then others netbooks
[06:20] <COm_BOY> plz dont go for ASUS EE PC
[06:21] <QuantumKaos> sure ill not :D
[06:21] <QuantumKaos> trust me :D
[06:21] <QuantumKaos> but could u explain further?
[06:23] <COm_BOY> there are quite a lot of netbooks
[06:23] <darthanubis> racecar56_: I told you
[06:23] <darthanubis> racecar56: close pidgin before you logoff
[06:23] <COm_BOY> like... IBM , MSI Wind.. and almost every vendor is offering netbooks now a days
[06:25] <QuantumKaos> COm_BOY: u kiddin me or what? i no, i just want to know why u suggest aspire
[06:25] <COm_BOY> because I like it :D
[06:35] <coppro> firefox has some serious rendering issues: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8572/badtabs.png
[06:37] <fetusbubble> hah
[06:37] <fetusbubble> maybe it's just biased.
[06:39] <coppro> It's been like this since Ubuntu shipped the new, hideous theme
[07:18] <skreech> QuantumKaos: ASUS Is in the dog house now
[07:19] <QuantumKaos> who let it out?
[07:19] <QuantumKaos> woof woof
[07:20] <skreech> QuantumKaos: sold a few million LInux EEE PCs infact the EEE PCs got on the map because they were Linux devices and now they are shouting out Linux on the netbook market and only offering WIndows XP and WIndows 7
[07:20] <skreech> Linux community isn't happy with them
[07:21] <skreech> QuantumKaos: what's important to you in a netbook?
[07:22] <QuantumKaos> porn?
[07:22] <skreech> DEll
[07:22] <skreech> or HP actually
[07:23] <QuantumKaos> hmmm... DS!
[07:24] <skreech> in any case
[07:24] <skreech> I'm out!
[07:35] <khaije|amalt> could someone try to connect to http://basillica.dontexist.net pls?
[07:36] <khaije|amalt> it shouldn't be accessible, but i can't tell if my gw is doing local loopback or if it's misconfigured
[07:37] <namelezz> do we have changing of  log on screen like windows
[07:39] <divobtech> hllo
[07:40] <namelezz>  do we have changing of  log on screen like windows?
[07:40] <divobtech> someone can say me how to answer a specific personne On quassel Irc
[07:40] <divobtech> please
[07:41] <divobtech> #HanzZ
[07:42] <namelezz> on ubuntu 8.04 u can change the log on screen
[07:42] <namelezz> can u do it on ubuntu 9
[07:43] <divobtech> namelezz you talk with me?
[07:44] <namelezz> yes........on ubuntu 8.04 u can change the log on screen .......can u change it on ubuntu 9???
yes........on ubuntu 8.04 u can change the log on screen .......can u change it on ubuntu 9???
[07:47] <kasperooney>  namelezz: it is possible to change the log on screen and also the splash screen on ubuntu 9.04 :)
how can i do it??
change the log on screen picture
[07:49] <kasperooney>  namelezz: i suppose u know that u can select the log in screen from system-->administration-->login window?
[07:49] <jussi01> !tab | namelezz
[07:49] <kasperooney>  namelezz: search google for login screens
ok
[07:50] <divobtech> __-osh-__: divobtech
[07:50] <kasperooney>  namelezz: and then point the downloaded theme in the login window
[08:42] <Mist_> Under Kubuntu 9.04, is it the usb-creator or the usb-imagewriter to use in order to make a bootable usb flash drive with for example mix install of Ubuntu with an IMG file?
[08:43] <Mist_> guide refers to gnome ubuntu and adminstration->system so kubuntu doesn't have that setup he he.
[09:00] <jussi01> Mist_: if you have an img file, then its the writer, if you have an iso its the creator
[09:01] <Mist_> jussi01: thanks :) I  installed creator and was looking for img file. Didn't notice untill u said it now that is is for iso ^^
[09:02] <jussi01> :D
[09:02] <Mist_> im about to install on an nc10 :P
[09:06] <Mist_> samsung nc10 seem feel very nice. No wonder it is in the top with the asus 1000he
[09:12] <Mist_> now.. why don't I use unetbotin for instead.. good question Mist_ :P very good question indeed. I must have alzheimers 0o
[09:14] <Mist_> ah.. I don't. Because it doesn't have 9.04 available it seems.
[09:16] <Mist_> sorry for talking to myself, I just like to share information around me in case anyone learn from it by accidently picking it up :)
[09:44] <Autoscum> Hello.
[09:44] <Autoscum> Does anyone have any experience with Wine? I'm trying to run a Windows game, it runs perfectly until it wants a CD.
[09:44] <Autoscum> There are no working cracks for it.
[09:45] <Autoscum> I set the drive in Wine, select the directory it's mounted in and nothing happens.
[09:45] <vinay-India> check www.winehq.org for compatibility
[09:47] <Autoscum> Compatibility with what? :/
[09:47] <vinay-India> game
[09:47] <vinay-India> i know little
[09:47] <Autoscum> Yeah, it is compatible.
[09:47] <Autoscum> There are screenshots. :)
[09:47] <vinay-India> ok
[09:49] <vinay-India> ohh so u have issues with virtual drives?
[09:52] <Autoscum> Yeah
[09:52] <Autoscum> Issues with virtual drives. :)
[09:52] <vinay-India> k
[09:53] <Autoscum> Oh, wait.
[09:53] <Autoscum> The ISO doesn't mount. :(
[09:53] <Autoscum> I use the mount /mnt/iso/ -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0
[09:54] <Autoscum> Then when I go to the directory, it's empty.
[09:54] <Autoscum> :/
[09:54] <eyebex> hey, does anyone know how to scale prints in okular? I have a pdf-document sized 152 x 229 mm and when i print it on a din a4 paper it does not scale up to fit the page correctly. it works with adobe reader
[09:55] <Autoscum> eyebex: Have you read the documentation? :)
[09:56] <Autoscum> It should be there.
[09:57] <eyebex> thx i'll try
[09:58] <vinay-India> pavan_:
[09:59] <pavan_> vinay-India: :
[09:59] <vinay-India> yaa
[09:59] <vinay-India> ru from blr?
[09:59] <vinay-India> ru Pavan Keshavamurthy??
[10:00] <eyebex> i searched the ubuntuusers.de wiki but there's nothing about it. is there any other? i even can't find it on okular.kde.org
[10:03] <Autoscum> eyebex: Try the "Help" button :)
[10:03] <Autoscum> lol
[10:05] <vinay-India> press F1 lols
[10:07] <eyebex> i read it before but there's no information about it
[10:07] <vinay-India> may be okular at present does not support that
[10:08] <eyebex> what is miss is the option "scale to page size " or something like that in the print-window
[10:12] <vinay-India> so u wanna resize the document eyebex??
[10:13] <teiwaz> hi
[10:13] <teiwaz> привет
[10:14] <eyebex> yes, i want to fit the text to the din A4 page without big borders. Adobe Reader and also evince does that
[10:14] <vinay-India> compared to adobe pdf reader okular is 2 simple
[10:14] <Autoscum> vinay-India: привет, товарищ
[10:14] <Autoscum> :D
[10:14] <eyebex> (while evince slides the text a bit)
[10:14] <vinay-India> that is russian sccript
[10:14] <Autoscum> Heh.
[10:15] <heroid> привет
[10:17] <vinay-India>  ????????
[10:19] <vinay-India> eyebex: y don't u use printer options
[10:21] <eyebex> which options do you mean exactly?
[10:21] <vinay-India> even most printers have all such options
[10:21] <teiwaz> anybody try to instal Fallout 3 in kubuntu?
[10:22] <teiwaz> народ, кто нить устанавливал 3 далаут на кубунту?
[10:23] <teiwaz> *фалаут
[10:24] <Autoscum> teiwaz: It will probably work
[10:24] <Autoscum> :)
[10:24] <Autoscum> teiwaz: Hold on, I'll try to run it with Wine
[10:25] <eyebex> i have a brother dcp 135 but there are no options to scale size
[10:25] <teiwaz> Autoscum, i'll try thank
[10:25] <heroid> Were planing a conferenc in august Free Software Conference visit our website
[10:25] <heroid> http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
[10:25] <heroid> http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
[10:26] <FloodBotK2> heroid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <Autoscum> Sorry, didn't work. :(
[10:29] <Autoscum> !mp3
[10:32] <fg56lx> Anyone have any tips on getting an Atheros wireless chipset to work?
[10:36] <Peace-> fg56lx: here works
[10:36] <Peace-> fg56lx: need of help for that?
[10:36] <fg56lx> It jsut works out of the box for you?
[10:36] <Peace-> well yes but sometimes ath5k doesn't work for a fucking bug i think
[10:36] <Peace-> it doesn't show the network
[10:36] <fg56lx> Ive gotten it to work twice. Most of the time i just cant get it to work.
[10:37] <Peace-> i dunno why
[10:37] <fg56lx> Thats what happens to me.
[10:37] <fg56lx> It just wont see any networks.
[10:37] <fg56lx> Even my router that is 6 inches form the laptop.
[10:37] <Peace-> well i have used madwifi
[10:37] <fg56lx> And if i enter the ssid manually, it says nosignal.
[10:37] <Peace-> yea yeah
[10:37] <fg56lx> How can i install that? I've tried using the "hardware drivers" but it never works.
[10:37] <Peace-> i know
[10:37] <Peace-> xD
[10:38] <fg56lx> Ok, glad im not the only one that happens to!
[10:38] <Peace-> just a second i will give you my link
[10:38] <fg56lx> Thank you very much.
[10:38] <Peace-> wtf this damned but that i hate
[10:38] <Peace-> *damned bug
[10:39] <Peace-> fg56lx: lokk at my blog here http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/kubuntu-904-atheros-communications-inc-ar242x-80211abg-wireless-pci-express-adapter-rev-01/
[10:39] <Bauldrick> how can i remove old icons from kickoff application launcher?
[10:46] <fg56lx> Peace-: Ok, Im following your guide and I get this "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[10:46] <fg56lx> Does that mean it didnt work, or that it did and thats just a warning or what?
[10:46] <fg56lx> That happened when I tried "sudo modprobe ath_pci"
[10:47] <Peace-> fg56lx: which version of kubuntu ?
[10:47] <fg56lx> 9.04
[10:47] <Peace-> you should write blacklist.conf
[10:48] <fg56lx> Thats what I did. I did "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:49] <fg56lx> and added the blacklist ath5k.
[10:52] <fg56lx> Peace-: I followed your guide, and it's still not working.
[10:55] <fg57lx> Peace-: I restarted, and its still not working.
[11:00] <blackflag> Hello all :) OT Im looking for a alternaive for ampache where I have file upload. Someone knows  a good webased software? Or can give me a hint for wath software type I have to look? Can someone help?
[11:02] <Peace-> fg56lx: sorry i was out
[11:02] <fg57lx> Not a problem.
[11:02] <Peace-> fg56lx: lsmod | grep ath
[11:03] <fg57lx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/212609/
[11:05] <Peace-> fg56lx: mm sudo rmmod ath5k
[11:06] <Peace-> fg56lx: looks like you have not blacklisted ath5k anyway..
[11:06] <Peace-> fg56lx: mm sudo rmmod ath5k
[11:06] <arkwired_> hola
[11:06] <fg57lx> Peace-: "The program 'mm' can be found in the following packages:
[11:07] <Peace-> fg56lx: without mm...
[11:07] <fg57lx> Oh.
[11:07] <Peace-> fg56lx:  mm = mumble
[11:08] <fg57lx> Ok, did that command,.
[11:08] <Peace-> now
[11:08] <Peace-> iwlist ath0 scan
[11:08] <arkwired_> who install paket .tar.gz???
[11:08] <Peace-> arkwired_: ?
[11:08] <fg57lx> Peace-: ath0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:08] <Peace-> wow :)
[11:08] <Peace-> fg56lx: iwconfig
[11:09] <arkwired_> i am not speak inglish good
[11:09] <Peace-> arkwired_: on kubuntu you can install only deb
[11:09] <Peace-> stop
[11:10] <arkwired_> and ubuntu?
[11:10] <fg57lx> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/212619/ and also, after I did that last command there is no longer a "wireless" tab in the network manager widget
[11:10] <eagles0513875> arkwired_: what language do you speak
[11:11] <arkwired_> spanish
[11:11] <eagles0513875> !es | arkwired_
[11:11] <eagles0513875> :)
[11:11] <Peace-> fg57lx: lspci | grep Ath
[11:11] <arkwired_> trx
[11:11] <fg57lx> Peace-: 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[11:11] <eagles0513875> de nada arkwired_
[11:12] <Peace-> fg57lx: omg you have the same of mine
[11:12] <Peace-> fg57lx: please read better the documentations... i have posted that card works for sure
[11:12] <Peace-> fg57lx: anway
[11:12] <fg57lx> I followed your guide to the letter.
[11:12] <Peace-> fg57lx: i don't think so because you have not blacklisted ath5k
[11:13] <Peace-> fg57lx: that is proved by your lsmod | grep ath
[11:14] <fg57lx> I did blacklist it. And that is proved by this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/212624/
[11:14] <arkwired_> a have tp link 56mb wi-fi ,pci card athero work good
[11:17] <Peace-> fg57lx: you should answer to this , why you have ath5k on your lsmod if it's blacklisteed..
[11:17] <frozen_flame> hay
[11:17] <fg57lx> I dont know.
[11:17] <frozen_flame> how are you?
[11:17] <Peace-> fg57lx: you have made something of word that is the answer
[11:17] <Peace-> fg57lx: dude i have right now that wifi card
[11:18] <fg57lx> Peace-: Are you saying im lieing to you?
[11:18] <Peace-> and it's working fine with ath_pci
[11:18] <fg57lx> Why would I do that? Why would i purposfully do something like that when I am the one trying to get help?
[11:19] <Peace-> i have not said you are lieing
[11:19] <fg57lx> That pastebin is the full content of my "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" no more, no less.
[11:19] <Peace-> i have said you have made someting of wrong
[11:19] <Peace-> something
[11:19] <Peace-> .
[11:19] <fg57lx> How? I copy/pasted everything on your guide.
[11:19] <Peace-> well if you have done right you should get only a driver: ath_pci
[11:20] <Peace-> and iwconfig should show you ath0 interface
[11:20] <fg57lx> I did just what your guide shows, and the only error that ever occured was the "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."
[11:21] <Peace-> fg57lx: i don't know it's your business now . that is the way
[11:21] <Peace-> and it works on kubuntu 9.04
[11:21] <Peace-> for sure
[11:21] <fg57lx> Apparently it doesnt work on kubuntu 9.04 for sure.
[11:24] <Jonty> is there a cannoical kde backup manager?
[11:24] <Jonty> or even kubuntu?
[11:24] <Peace-> fg57lx: well untill you use 2 drivers
[11:24] <Peace-> for sure it doesn't work
[11:25] <fg57lx> I blacklisted the driver, i don't know why its saying i didnt.
[11:26] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[11:27] <fg57lx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/212647/
[11:28] <fg57lx> And here is me going through your tutorial, word for word. http://paste.ubuntu.com/212644/
[11:28] <bradley> ok
[11:29] <bradley> when i go to myspace's app youcams, i try to connect my mic, the flash settings thing comes up and wont let me do anything
[11:29] <bradley> any help
[11:31] <bradley> som1 pls help
[11:32] <Peace-> fg57lx:  and that error apperars only on fedora forum and some sidux forum ... http://www.sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-14968.html
[11:34] <Peace-> kubuntu 9.04 with standand packages and atheros ar242x here works with that tutorial sorry i can't help because here works
[11:34] <fg57lx> Ok, but apparently that error has no problem here, since the blacklist does end in .conf
[11:34] <Peace-> on you computer i don't know why it doesn't
[11:34] <fg57lx> Im coming off a fresh install too.
[11:34] <fg57lx> Just lastnight.
[11:34] <Peace-> i have no idea
[11:34] <Peace-> here works it's the only think i can say
[11:35] <Peace-> and i have used that tutorial
[11:35] <Peace-> no error when i have made that stuff
[11:35] <Peace-> the strange thing is the blalisted module not blacklisted xD
[11:36] <fg57lx> Do you think it would work if that wasnt happening?
[11:37] <Peace-> i dunno
[11:37] <Peace-> never see that
[11:37] <Peace-> this is my lspci http://pastebin.ca/1487992
[11:37] <Peace-> and i have the same stuff as you can see
[11:47] <fg57lx> Peace-: What if i put that line in "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" instead of "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" becuase I know "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" works, because i added "blacklist pcspkr" to it earlier and it stopped it.
[11:48] <Peace-> fg57lx: i dunno, try it if you think can be usefull
[11:48] <fg57lx> Alright, ill try.
[11:49] <fg57lx> Ok, what was the command that checked to see if it was blacklisted or not?
[11:49] <Peace-> read that tutorial...
[11:49] <Peace-> lsmod | grep ath
[11:49] <Peace-> but you should restart the pc...
[11:50] <fg57lx> Your tutorial never mentions "lsmod | grep ath
[11:55] <fg56lx> Peace-: Ok, I restarted, and its still doing the not showing connections thing.
[11:56] <Peace-> fg56lx: no more idea
[11:57] <fg56lx> Thanks anyway.
[11:59] <fg56lx> !join #wireless
[11:59] <|PaperTiger|> What's the best program to unzip .rar files?
[11:59] <fg56lx> |PaperTiger|: Ark.
[11:59] <riano> |PaperTiger|: unrar ?
[12:00] <Peace-> !restrictedformats | riano
[12:00] <riano> unrar is a restricted format?
[12:01] <Peace-> ark after installing that stuff manage rar
[12:01] <|PaperTiger|> fg56lx, I get an error with Ark when I try unzip this file
[12:01] <fg56lx> |PaperTiger|: "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[12:01] <Peace-> unrar and unrar-nonfree or something like that
[12:02] <|PaperTiger|> Thanks :)
[12:02] <Peace-> unrar
[12:02] <Peace-> unrar-nonfree
[12:02] <Peace-> unrar-free
[12:12] <|PaperTiger|> How can I view a .rar comment?
[13:00] <alarm> hello, anyone experienced a really slow login into kde after upgrading kernel ?
[13:00] <alarm> my system needs like 3 times more time to boot into kde after upgrading to the latest kernel and reinstalling nvidia
[13:04] <riano> mine's the same still, do you know of any other changes you made?
[13:05] <alarm> asking me ?
[13:20] <crazy_bus> I get the ubuntu drum sound on messages in gnome programs like firefox.  How can I turn this off?  I tried turning all the notifications off in pulseaudio
[13:22] <kubuntuuser> how do I check file transfer progress if plasma crashes during a large transfer?
[13:25] <chris__> blop
[13:26] <riano> kubuntuuser: thats a good question, the only way I can think off is by checking the filesize on the destination
[13:26] <chris__> is there somebody here?
[13:27] <riano> chris__: anything we can help you with? :)
[13:28] <chris__> i just wana talk... some frenchs in the place?
[13:31] <chris__> i just wana talk... some frenchs in the place?
[13:35] <tsimpson> !fr | chris__
[13:42] <yoga> When I apt-get upgrade, there are some packages 'hold back'.  What does that mean?
[13:42] <whyty> ?? help
[13:45] <riano> yoga: Those packages may conflict with currently installed packages or have dependencies that aren't yet available
[13:45] <riano> whyty: whats the problem?
[13:45] <whyty> i have a big and f..cking problem
[13:46] <whyty> that's my cdrom
[13:46] <yoga> riano: Aftar I did apt-get update , apt-get upgrade, my Taske Manager on the Panel does not show any task.
[13:46] <whyty> the OS didn't want to see it
[13:48] <riano> yoga: did you change any settings? maybe remove the taskbar from the panel?
[13:48] <whyty> nope man
[13:48] <whyty> i'd reinstall the Os many times
[13:49] <whyty> and every time the OS never see the DVD-rw
[13:49] <hateball> whyty: is it a laptop?
[13:49] <whyty> yep
[13:49] <whyty> it it a f..king laptop
[13:49] <yoga> I did not change any setting.  I did try to remoce it from t the panel, and add the task manager wedget again, but it does not help, same problem again.
[13:49] <bazhang> whyty, no cursing
[13:50] <whyty>  it's boght from romania
[13:50] <hateball> whyking: I have a issue on one of my laptops... where if the DVD is enabled in BIOS, it wont work in Linux...
[13:50] <bazhang> whyty, some hardware issue? or problem with Kubuntu
[13:50] <whyty> i have the same one
[13:50] <hateball> Setting it to disabled.. it wont boot from it, but it works just fine in Linux
[13:50] <whyty> man, i don't know
[13:50] <whyty> i'm not pretty sure
[13:51] <whyty> i tried to boot from it
[13:51] <whyty> and it never works
[13:51] <bazhang> whyty, burn another cd
[13:51] <whyty> man
[13:51] <bazhang> whyty, first, check the md5 of the iso
[13:51] <whyty> it's not the cd
[13:52] <whyty> it's the optical unit
[13:52] <bazhang> whyty, then burn at very low speed, and do the disk integrity check
[13:52] <whyty> the DVD writer
[13:52] <bazhang> whyty, hardware then
[13:52] <whyty> hmmmm
[13:52] <riano> yoga: I have no idea what the problem could be, google doesn't seem to tell me much either.. maybe your taskbar widget is kaput
[13:52] <bazhang> ##hardware whyty
[13:52] <whyty> what i want to tell u
[13:53] <whyty> it's that it works a time
[13:53] <lovre> hi all
[13:53] <yoga> riano: How do I reset my panel?
[13:53] <bazhang> whyty, then follow the instructions I give you
[13:53] <whyty> i had before linux the big shit named WINDOWS
[13:53] <bazhang> whyty, STOP cursing.
[13:53] <whyty> ok
[13:53] <lovre> the software updates shown up, and there is 24 updates and 68 blocked updates. why are theese 68 updates blocked, and why., and can i unblock them?
[13:53] <whyty> tell me
[13:54] <riano> yoga, only thing I can think of is to add another panel first
[13:54] <bazhang> whyty, follow the instructions I gave you above.
[13:55] <whyty> i don't see the instructions
[13:55] <whyty> please rewrite it
[13:55] <riano> lovre: The blocked packages either have unmet dependencies or conflict with your currently installed packages. You can force install them by manually installing them rather than through an update
[13:56] <bazhang> whyty, first, check the md5 of the iso  then burn at very low speed, and do the disk integrity check
[13:56] <bazhang> !md5 | whyty
[13:56] <bazhang> whyty, keep it in channel (no PM)
[13:56] <whyty> ok
[13:57] <whyty> ok, i understud
[13:57] <lovre> riano: so i can expect due to theese conflicts that i wont have critical updates on my system? That doesnt make much sense. :(
[13:57] <whyty> but it's possible that the hardware is the problem
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:58] <whyty> cause now i'm on linux
[13:58] <bazhang> whyty, then ask in ##hardware
[13:58] <whyty> ok tnx a lot
[13:58] <riano> lovre: Critical's wouldn't be blocked I don't think
[13:58] <bazhang> no problem
[13:58] <lovre> riano: ok, thanx
[13:58] <yoga> riano: Add another panel, then add Task Manager, also negative.
[13:58] <lovre> whats the command for database update?
[13:59] <riano> lovre: apt-get update?
[13:59] <lovre> riano: i was thinking about the local update that keeps track of my files....
[13:59] <riano> yoga: it doesn't show any program, not minimalized ones either?   -- I'm still pondering how this is happening
[14:00] <riano> lovre: updatedb?
[14:00] <lovre> riano: yes, thats it. ty
[14:01] <yoga> riano: It shows a problem.  The newly added panel become shorter after I add the Task Manager.
[14:02] <christian86> hi all, how can i switch off/deactivate the monitor power off effect in jaunty for e.g. presentation. it is a bit annoying if monitor turns off every 10minutes :)
[14:03] <hatser> when will there be a skype version for jaunty?
[14:03] <yoga> riano: There is no task shows up on on the newly added task manager neither.
[14:03] <lovre> system settings -> display ->power control
[14:03] <lovre> christian86: system settings -> display ->power control
[14:04] <christian86> lovre: i still switched of the energy function :(
[14:04] <riano> yoga: do you have any other users on your computer?
[14:04] <yoga> riano: yes I have, try that one?
[14:05] <christian86> lovre: or should i activate and set all values to zero, in effection that they are deactivatet?
[14:05] <riano> yoga: yeah, they have a different home folder and that might tell us if it's a setting or a gobal issue
[14:05] <lovre> christian86: no, thats not it. i have the solution
[14:05] <lovre> christian86: go go Advanced tab in system settings
[14:06] <lovre> christian86: and click Power Management
[14:06] <lovre> then select Edit profiles
[14:06] <lovre> christian86: find the profile you use for presentations
[14:06] <lovre> and on the right lower you can see Screen
[14:06] <lovre> christian86: select it and uncheck the Enable display power management
[14:07] <christian86> lovre: ah merci i think i found it^
[14:07] <lovre> christian86: no problem
[14:07] <yoga> riano: Actually I only have one user,  I am creating a new one.
[14:08] <christian86> lovre: there are three tabs called "action" "screen" "processor and system"
[14:08] <lovre> yes, you click on Screen
[14:08] <lovre> christian86: There you can uncheck it
[14:09] <christian86> lovre: yes big thx :)
[14:09] <lovre> christian86: np
[14:11] <whyty> bazhang a new problem
[14:11] <whyty> if u can help me
[14:11] <whyty> it seems that my browser it's down
[14:12] <whyty> i use mozilla
[14:12] <whyty> and it didn't open any pages
[14:13] <lovre> whyty: what do you mean? it does even open? or it opens but doesnt show pageS?
[14:13] <whyty> and i'm tring the arora and do same thing
[14:13] <whyty> it opesn but not shows the pahges
[14:13] <lovre> whyty: blank?
[14:13] <whyty> pages*
[14:14] <whyty> nope
[14:14] <whyty> after few minutes
[14:14] <whyty> it shown an network error
[14:14] <whyty> but the network works
[14:14] <lovre> hm
[14:15] <riano> dns issue?
[14:15] <lovre> whyty: can you open firefox and instead of URL adress, type this: 74.125.39.99
[14:15] <lovre> riano: i was going for that
[14:16] <lovre> whyty: does it open google with that address?
[14:17] <whyty> yep
[14:17] <whyty> and a few adresses
[14:17] <lovre> whyty: ok then the problem is definettly DNS
[14:17] <lovre> your DNS might be having problems
[14:18] <lovre> whyty: try changing to different DNS in your Network settings
[14:18] <riano> or just not be configured
[14:18] <lovre> whyty: it will work
[14:18] <whyty> ok, i understand now
[14:18] <whyty> i have the main page on google
[14:19] <whyty> and that it's the problem:P
[14:19] <lovre> whyty: oh
[14:19] <lovre> whyty: you didnt try to open other pages?
[14:19] <whyty> nope
[14:19] <lovre> whyty: might want to try other DNS anyway
[14:19] <whyty> or i tried
[14:19] <whyty> but few more didn't works
[14:20] <yoga> riano: I just login to the new user, the task manager shows no program.  I fired up some apps.
[14:20] <whyty> like yahoo, or  a few romanian
[14:20] <riano> yoga: can you tell me which packages are held back by your updater?
[14:21] <whyty> if i can remove on the main server yes
[14:21] <whyty> but on my pc never work
[14:21] <whyty> because i'm on static ip's
[14:21] <whyty> :P
[14:21] <whyty> i'm student
[14:22] <lovre> whyty: i guessed so. I am also, and i share internet with a big local network.
[14:22] <whyty> and i'm staying in the university campus, where the internet it's free, but it's very bad
[14:23] <riano> whyty can you go into a konsole and do 'ping google.com' ?
[14:23] <whyty> at me , it came yep
[14:23] <whyty> sorry
[14:23] <ce_pecex> dfrdghgdh
[14:23] <whyty> yes
[14:23] <lovre> whyty: there are two problems with this, the administration can block certain pages as they see fit, and other is when there are many people downloading the connection can get from slow to  unasable.. The sad truth is, you cant do anything about it, neither can i..
[14:23] <whyty> i do also this
[14:23] <ce_pecex> hah?????
[14:24] <lovre> brr
[14:24] <whyty> u're right
[14:24] <whyty> i've many problem here
[14:25] <whyty> and the big one is because some things are free or very chip, and are shitty
[14:27] <yoga`> riano: kde-printer-applet kdebase-plasma kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdm kopete linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-widgets-workspace
[14:28] <riano> yoga: you could manually force the updates to install, this might fix your problems as they are plasma updates
[14:28] <lovre> hmm
[14:28] <riano> be forewarned though, the crash ratio of plasma could go up
[14:28] <lovre> i have a big problem
[14:28] <yoga`> riano: I don't want to upgrade my kernel though.
[14:29] <riano> lovre: don't we all :)
[14:29] <riano> yoga: then just leave those out
[14:29] <riano> yoga: don't do  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic
[14:31] <lovre> my plasma crashed, and i restarted X. Now all desktop is messed up, there is no background, only gray rectangles, the tray is all messed up, there is no window decorations, i cant move them, i cant run ALT+F2, NOTHIN is working. I tried turning off desktop effects, didnt help. I did the updates before this, with some package repository i just added..... what could be happening?
[14:32] <riano> try running plasma-desktop
[14:32] <lovre>  hmm
[14:33] <lovre> brr
[14:33] <lovre> brb
[14:33] <riano> I get that screen for a seconds when plasma poops itself
[14:34] <lovre> didnt work
[14:35] <riano> then there's the CTR+ALT+Backspace
[14:35] <lovre> the konversation is open and i cant move the window so i have to close it in order to get to the console
[14:35] <lovre> riano: did that a few times
[14:35] <lovre> riano: allways the same
[14:36] <lovre> riano: hate when things go like this with no apparent reason
[14:36] <^ce_pecex^> pppppppppppppp
[14:36] <lovre> riano: is there a way i can revert the last changes?
[14:36] <lovre> riano: or reinstall plasma?
[14:36] <lovre> or reconfigure
[14:36] <lovre> i dont know
[14:36] <riano> you're running the kde beta from launchpad?
[14:37] <lovre> riano: ?
[14:37] <lovre> riano: im not sure
[14:37] <riano> are there still updates being held back?
[14:37] <lovre> yes 68
[14:38] <riano> anything plasma related?
[14:38] <lovre> riano: didnt check them all tbh. but i added some new repository to install amarok 2.1, and it showed me like 24 new updates with i installed. that might be the problem
[14:39] <riano> I believe amarok 2.1 is in the beta set yes
[14:39] <riano> can you get to a console?
[14:39] <lovre> yes, but i have to close konversation first :(
[14:40] <riano> hm
[14:40] <riano> alt+tab doesn't work either?
[14:40] <lovre> riano: maybe i could login to gnome and then create a new session with kde in another terminal?
[14:40] <lovre> no, nothing works
[14:40] <riano> sure you can login on gnome and update the packages
[14:40] <lovre> riano: but they are blocked?
[14:41] <riano> then you manually tell them to unblock themselves ;)
[14:41] <lovre> riano: how to unblock them
[14:41] <lovre> riano: how?
[14:41] <riano> sudo apt-get install <package>
[14:41] <lovre> riano: one by one?
[14:41] <riano> nah
[14:41] <riano> sudo apt-get install <package> <package2> <package3> etc
[14:41] <lovre> riano: ok im going to gnome, brb
[14:41] <riano> good luck :)
[14:43] <lovre_> hey
[14:43] <lovre_> ok im in gnome
[14:43] <lovre_> how can i get to the list of those packages from here?
[14:43] <riano> time for that console :)
[14:43] <lovre_> yes
[14:43] <riano> in a console, type: sudo apt-get update
[14:43] <riano> then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:43] <Ramblurr> has anyone noticed themeing issues with the gtk-qt-engine theme in firefox 3.5's tabs
[14:43] <riano> it will complain about the held back packages
[14:44] <lovre_> riano:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.
[14:44] <lovre_> riano: ah, and there is the list
[14:44] <lovre_> hmm
[14:45] <lovre_> riano: those are mostly apps i use regularrly.... why wont they be upgraded?
[14:45] <Pici> Is there a reason why you aren't using dist-upgrade instead of 'upgrade'?
[14:45] <lovre_> Pici: have no idea... newb.
[14:46] <Pici> lovre_: apt-get dist-upgrade  will pull in packages that may have been held back if they depend on new packages.
[14:46] <riano> it's a fair question.. which version of k/ubuntu are you using lovre?
[14:46] <riano> really? I never tried
[14:46] <lovre_> riano: how do i check the version*
[14:46] <riano> I figured it'd do a distribution upgrade
[14:46] <Pici> lsb_release -a
[14:46] <lovre_> 9.04
[14:46] <lovre_> newest
[14:47] <lovre_> but maybe kde version is not newest
[14:47] <lovre_> 4.2.95 (4.3RC1)
[14:47] <riano> some of the KDE updates are being held back, yeah, which is why I used install to pull em in
[14:48] <lovre_> riano: so what do i do? install them all or do dist-upgrade?
[14:48] <riano> end result is the same I suppose, Pici's solution is faster though:   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:48] <lovre_> ok installing....
[14:48] <lovre_> hope this fix it
[14:49] <riano> I think it will
[14:49] <lovre_> what acctually did i upgrade to, seems im allready at newest version, so i dont quite get it?
[14:49] <riano> I guess dist-upgrade forces to grab all the latest packages, if there's a new distribution those are newer..
[14:50] <lovre_> riano: ok.. thanx. i will get back in a few minutes with the results
[14:54] <ncfi1013_> how do you turn blutooth on on your computer?
[15:04] <yoga`> riano: The Task Manager works after I upgrade the kept back packages, thanks.
[15:04] <riano> yoga: no problem, glad it helped
[15:06] <leumas> hello evry1
[15:07] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out the time a user logged out when the login was recorded in what is now /var/local/wtmp.1 but the logout was after wtmp.1 was created?
[15:07] <yoga`> riano: The update hangs while at the end, when kdm trys restart, stop at checking batteries... I had to reboot, I hope that it will be ok.
[15:07] <lovre_> riano: ok the installation is done, im restarting x now, brb
[15:17] <ncfi1013_> where is the accessories menu? how do i disable an onboard graphics card if bios doesnt see it?
[15:17] <riano> doesn't your system turn it off automatically when you insert an alternative?
[15:20] <ryann> are there still WPA issues with plasma-widget-networkmanagement?
[15:29] <zulfa> hi all
[15:29] <Xnet0> Hello
[15:29] <zulfa> i'm trying pam with radius, can someone point me to the right direction?
[15:30] <Xnet0> Has anyone got multiple wallpapers to work independently on each desktop?
[15:30] <Xnet0> So a unique wallpaper for each virtual desktop?
[15:55] <root> è una merda
[16:51] <brad777> Hello :-D I just recently purchased a new motherboard and I was wondering if I plug my current hard drive into the new one will I need to reinstall kubuntu?
[16:57] <csuser13> hi
[17:02] <csuser11> allo
[17:02] <csuser13> allo!!
[17:02] <Dragnslcr> brad777- depends on how much other hardware changed. You can try it and see what happens
[17:14] <MadAGu> why my cursor theme doesn't change right?
[17:15] <MadAGu> some cursors are changed , but some are still from the oxygen theme.... and it happens with ALL cursor themes i've tried....
[17:19] <Phantal> I just upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04, and now I'm unable to use wireless.  I just use the command line tools (iwlist, iwconfig, dhclient) for configuring it and obtaining an IP.  Now I'm unable to get any dhcp responses
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Phantal: if youre using wpa then the knetworkmanager wont work...
[17:22] <Phantal> I don't remember what I setup.  I know it isn't the encryption scheme most people recommend, and I've been meaning to re-configure my wireless to use it, but I seem to remember it being wep128
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Phantal: then try wicd...thats all i can think of...
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Phantal: it will remove knetworkmanager...
[17:24] <Phantal> well, knetworkmanager wasn't installed in the first place it would seem
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Phantal: \o/
[17:24] <Phantal> I originally installed ubuntu and switched to kde after the fact
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Phantal: then try knetwork-manager first
[17:27] <Phantal> after installation, I ran it and nothing happens
[17:27] <Phantal> no one uses command line tools to set stuff up anymore?
[17:28] <Phantal> i hate gui tools just for this very reason, if the tool isn't working you get very little feedback
[17:28] <shadeslayer> Phantal: you need to add a widget in the taskbar
[17:28] <shadeslayer> Phantal: look for network manager in the add wiget windo
[17:28] <shadeslayer> *window
[17:31] <KDesk> hi
[17:32] <shadeslayer> KDesk: hey
[17:35] <Phantal> I looked around for network manager, knetwork-manager, and knetworkmanager in the add widgets things, nada, and searched for one to download
[17:35] <gwtl[ircII]> hi
[17:35] <KDesk> using kde 4.3rc when I delete a file (move to trash) with dolphin or konqueror the process kio_trash takes like 10s to finish, it takes 50% of cpu (1 core of 2). Anyone has also this issue?
[17:36] <gwtl[ircII]> I have lost use of my x-screen
[17:36] <gwtl[ircII]> (or whatever kde uses)
[17:36] <KDesk> Phantal: you can install plasma-widget-network-manager
[17:36] <gwtl[ircII]> so i am using a text irc client
[17:37] <gwtl[ircII]> where can I go for help?
[17:37] <KDesk> gwtl[ircII]: have you tried to restart you pc and in grub select the recovery mode, andd then fixX ?
[17:37] <gwtl[ircII]> no
[17:37] <gwtl[ircII]> hehe
[17:37] <shadeslayer> gwtl[ircII]: or try sudo kdm in a terminal...
[17:37] <gwtl[ircII]> kdm?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> gwtl[ircII]: yeah...itll pop out some info which might be useful
[17:39] <gwtl[ircII]> it didn't show anything
[17:39] <KDesk> gwtl[ircII]: did you install a video driver or changed someting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[17:39] <KDesk> gwtl[ircII]: and this:    sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[17:39] <gwtl[ircII]> well
[17:39] <shadeslayer> KDesk: and did X start at console 7 ?
[17:39] <gwtl[ircII]> basically
[17:39] <gwtl[ircII]> this is a new install
[17:39] <gwtl[ircII]> and I installed the ati driver
[17:40] <gwtl[ircII]> and then tried some desctop effect
[17:40] <gwtl[ircII]> wich might have done something
[17:40] <shadeslayer> gwtl[ircII]: all in one line please
[17:40] <KDesk> gwtl[ircII]: do you mean the restricted driver, from amd site?
[17:40] <gwtl[ircII]> It is blank, but somehow konqueror still shows up
[17:42] <KDesk> gwtl[ircII]: what is you graphics card? the driver was the free ati of the non-free from amd?
[17:46] <Phantal> This network manager won't save the wep key
[17:47] <Phantal> and I'm a little unsure how to make it connect to a network.  There's no option to connect, only 'connect automatically', whose setting also gets reverted after I close the network connection editor
[17:52] <jeiworth> hi all, anyone converted an existing ext3 to ext4 yet? looking for a good howto, seems a good option is to boot from a live-cd to convert / as well
[17:56] <derenrich> is there anyway to get icons on the desktop ala KDE3 or even earlier kde4?
[17:59] <baron86> Hello does anyone knows how to make shared folders in virtualbox with host kubuntu and as guest windows XP?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Phantal: just click on the manager...it should show the wireless networks
[17:59] <geopol> derenrich, you can put application icon on desktop by going to your kickstart menu and right click on app.=sen to desktop. The other way would be for directories is to add widget desktop
[18:00] <shadeslayer> jeiworth: theres a proper how to...you need to learn to google :P
[18:00] <derenrich> geopol: thanks i'll try that
[18:00] <shadeslayer> jeiworth: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[18:00] <jeiworth> shadeslayer: i am currently reading the 3rd howto, just fishing for tips and experiences here :P
[18:01] <jeiworth> shadeslayer: thx,already read that
[18:02] <shadeslayer> jeiworth: well thats the  unofficial guide
[18:03] <jeiworth> shadeslayer: and old, it mentions patches and whatno that the others newer ones do not, i better stick with ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1118295
[18:04] <AlexZion> amarok 2.1 doesn't works ...., "too much error on the......"
[18:04] <shadeslayer> jeiworth: hmm
[18:04] <AlexZion> I just updated to kde 4.3 , should I change something ?
[18:05] <KDesk> is amarok 2.1 slow startup slow for every one or only for me?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: change what?
[18:05] <AlexZion> some settimg for example ...
[18:06] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: why would you need to change settings??
[18:06] <AlexZion> beause amarok doesn't work more ....
[18:06] <AlexZion> or should I just leave amarok to use something else ?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: well try amarok in a terminal...
[18:07] <csuser13> heyhey\
[18:07] <csuser13> salut patate :)
[18:07] <csuser25> hi
[18:07] <csuser13> hi
[18:07] <csuser13> :P
[18:08] <AlexZion> wait, , amarok appeare, and looks better than vefore, but the sound doesn't come out ... :)
[18:08] <csuser13> ya qqn?
[18:08] <csuser13> woot
[18:08] <AlexZion> the message I get is something like "too much error on the playlist"
[18:09] <csuser13> lalala
[18:09] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: hmm... no idea there...try reinstalling amarok
[18:10] <jeiworth> or emptying the playlist..
[18:10] <AlexZion> well,probably is much better using something else .... ;)
[18:10] <AlexZion> thanks mate ...
[18:11] <csuser13> CS: alllooooooo :)
[18:11] <random__> fatima?
[18:11] <csuser13> c la fille chinoise :P
[18:11] <random__> lool
[18:11] <random__> allo
[18:11] <jeiworth> !french csuser13
[18:12] <jeiworth> csusers, if you don have anything to contribute here plz take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:12] <AlexZion> I don't know guys but actually Amarok seems to be something outside KDE ....
[18:13] <jeiworth> AlexZion: how so?
[18:13] <AlexZion> I mean , it doesn't have the same "style ..."
[18:13] <baron86> Amorok is perfect for me
[18:14] <AlexZion> I always got problem with amarok , especially with the version 2.x
[18:14] <jeiworth> hehe well, maybe, they changed a lot in the version 2, i still prefer 1.4
[18:14] <AlexZion> me too ....
[18:14] <baron86> Does anyone have problem with the paste in virtualbox?
[18:15] <jeiworth> baron86: you mean c&p from and to vm and host?
[18:15] <baron86> no i mean inside the guest
[18:15] <AlexZion> I'd like to have some kind of songbird, more integrated in kde ... :)
[18:15] <baron86> to move for example a pic in another file.. the copy is done the paste is disabled
[18:15] <jeiworth> baron86: ah, uhm, no, never noticed anything out of the ordinary there
[18:16] <baron86> can i do copy from host and paste to guest?
[18:16] <baron86> or just use shared?
[18:17] <jeiworth> baron86: nope, dont think so, currently have an xp running as guest and can't c&p
[18:17] <Spectre> hi
[18:17] <jeiworth> baron86: use shared folder
[18:17] <baron86> i did
[18:17] <baron86> but i cant move them to the right place cause paste is disabled
[18:18] <jeiworth> so within the guest you are trying to c&p frmo the shared folder to a folder within the guest and its not working?
[18:18] <Spectre> I have a problem, I was setting some effects up in kubuntu 9.04, but it has frozen :( so I tried ctrl + alt + backspace, but didn't work... so I restarted. But next time it was same... now I cannot see any graphic, it's screwed up... can I reconfigure it from console?
[18:19] <baron86> yeap
[18:19] <jeiworth> baron86: hmm let me check...
[18:20] <baron86> well anything not just folders.. and not from shared form everywhere
[18:20] <Spectre> can you help me please? I'm here from laptop, my desktop's waiting
[18:21] <csuser13> woot
[18:21] <jeiworth> baron86: strange, drag&drop works though
[18:22] <baron86> well the problem is that i want copies..
[18:22] <baron86> but yes drap and drop works fine
[18:24] <jeiworth> baron86: if you drag and drop from a network drive, default of windows is to generate copy and not move the file iirc
[18:24] <baron86> well i just tryied it and it works thnx but... the problem is that if i want to move a file inside windows then what?
[18:25] <baron86> the only way i figured is zip and unzip
[18:26] <melhisedek> Is it possible to have new Firefox windows open to the right of the "first/main" window and not to the left? I mean when you have them on taskbar
[18:26] <jeiworth> baron86: well, you could have 2 explorer windows open and drag and drop there, if you want to generate copies instead of moving hold <ctrl> while dragging
[18:27] <jeiworth> or just before dropping, even
[18:29] <baron86> okie thnx :D
[18:29] <jeiworth> np ;)
[18:30] <jeiworth> strange, never noticed that c&p doesn't work for xp...
[18:30] <DaskreeCH> Anyone has planetkde.org in a feed reader?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> DaskreeCH: http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml
[18:34] <DaskreeCH> shadeslayer: That's time limited
[18:34] <shadeslayer> DaskreeCH: time limited??
[18:35] <DaskreeCH> it only keeps blog entries for a short time. I'm looking for something that is older than it's blog expiry date
[18:36] <shadeslayer> DaskreeCH: no idea
[18:36] <DaskreeCH> Got it! :-)
[19:02] <armewurst> hello
[19:02] <armewurst> can someone help me? i have problems with installing kubuntu
[19:04] <riano|afk> what kinda problems?
[19:06] <armewurst> i want to install but after the choosing install kubuntu my monitor screen turns black .. wrong frequenz
[19:06] <roey_> hello
[19:06] <roey_> can anyone help me out with X for a sec?
[19:07] <riano|afk> download the alternative CD, it has a text-based installer
[19:07] <roey_> the usual chans (#xorg, #ati) are being unresponsive so I'd really appreciate help here
[19:07] <riano|afk> I can try, roey_, but probably not going to be able to help much.. whats up?
[19:07] <armewurst> hm ..
[19:08] <roey_> my X is hosed; when I start it, I get garbage on my screen (I think it's leftover cruft from a bad Catalyst/Radeon 3450 install).  So at this point I
[19:08] <riano|afk> armewurst: the text-based installer will work, then once your installed, your monitor should be configured properly
[19:08] <armewurst> hm ok .. i will try .. thx
[19:08] <riano> np, gl
[19:08] <roey_> I'm trying to just get VESA working.  I start with an empty xorg.conf and no radeon/fglrx kernel modules loaded, but I still get a frozen X with cruft on the screen.  What to do now?
[19:09] <roey_> riano: thanks
[19:09] <riano> thats interesting
[19:09] <roey_> yeah, I'd say.
[19:13] <riano> this is a longshot, but have you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[19:13] <roey_> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg? eyah
[19:13] <roey_> didn't affect the behavior
[19:13] <riano> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:15] <scherfa> Hello, i have a bad issue on kde4.3RC.
[19:15] <roey_> tom___: that's an itnerestng secondary nick
[19:15] <scherfa> If i click on an http link in kmail kfmclient starts in a loop ... so it unusable:-(
[19:15] <riano> roey_: it's out of my league, sorry.. try #kde maybe, it's a bit more generic
[19:16] <scherfa> I have to kill kfmclient ...
[19:16] <riano> scherfa: hm, have you tried changing your default webbrowser setting?
[19:16] <scherfa> No ... wait.
[19:17] <scherfa> riano: The field is empty ... hmm i try with the first option ...
[19:17] <sysierius> hi all
[19:18] <riano> hell sysierius
[19:18] <riano> .. hello, too
[19:18] <scherfa> riano: Thanks thats it. But this options makes kde unusable. Should i fix it?
[19:18] <riano> ^^;
[19:18] <roey_> riano: thanks anyway!
[19:18] <sysierius> how are you to dayyyyyy¿ :3
[19:19] <riano> scherfa: how does this make KDE unusable?
[19:19] <scherfa> riano: It opens kfmclients in a loop so that a slow system stops working. Until i kill all kfmclients ....
[19:20] <riano> scherfa:  but it's fixed now, no?
[19:20] <scherfa> riano: The same issue if i open a link from any other kde app.
[19:21] <scherfa> riano: Yes. Switching the default browser helps but what if a user selects the wrong option?
[19:21] <riano> it's worth a bug report
[19:21] <riano> or if you can fix it, that could work too ;)
[19:21] <scherfa> riano: Ok, i think so. I open a bug report. Thanks.
[19:22] <sysierius> are you all here on linux?
[19:22] <sysierius> i am on ubuntu 8.10
[19:22] <tsimpson> scherfa: make sure to report on bugs.kde.org (not bugs.launchpad.net)
[19:23] <riano> you can probably expect most people here to be on Linux, it's a Kubuntu channel :)
[19:23] <scherfa> tsimpson: Ok.
[19:23] <frenchy> hello every one :)
[19:23] <sysierius> where are you on? linux to?
[19:24] <riano> Kubuntu 9.04
[19:24] <roey_> good vintage there ;)
[19:24] <roey_> riano: you know.... we didn't ahve any kubuntu boot cds in the office so I tried ubuntu
[19:24] <sysierius> kubuntu is coollll
[19:24] <sysierius> looks like windows vista
[19:24] <roey_> wow, Gnome is stark.
[19:24] <roey_> what a piece of garbage!
[19:25] <roey_> doesn't have half the functionality of kde!
[19:25] <riano> it's what Gnome prides itself for, configure less, do more
[19:25] <riano> KDE tends to let it's users decide for themselves
[19:25] <roey_> heh
[19:26] <roey_> one of the things I don't liek about gnome
[19:26] <roey_> two rather
[19:26] <roey_> 1) file dialog
[19:26] <roey_> 2) instant-action in dialog boxes.
[19:26] <sysierius> i like the cube XD
[19:26] <roey_> before you hit OK
[19:26] <riano> hehe
[19:27] <frenchy> I tried to install my modem but instead it i messed up my sound card. how do i reinstall my sound card driver with kubuntu ???
[19:27] <sockmonkey> I just installed a slave drive and copied my Kubuntu partition to the slave.  I've updated grub and changed fstab to reflect the new UUID.  Is there anything else I'm missing?
[19:27] <riano> sockmonkey: booting to the right drive?
[19:28] <sockmonkey> riano: Yup
[19:28] <riano> sockmonkey: and given that your asking here, I'm assuming it's not working? :)
[19:28] <riano> sockmonkey: how far do you get? Grub? Boot?
[19:29] <sockmonkey> riano: Wrong assumption... I'm on the livecd now (everything boots properly, but I don't have a login... this is my mom's computer) -- just want to make sure the switch will be seamless to her
[19:30] <riano> if the cloning to the new drive was done properly, and it's booting right, /I/ can't think of anything else
[19:31] <sockmonkey> Cool, just wanted to make sure.  I didn't do a clone (used cp -pr), because cloning also clones the UUID -- which can be troublesome if I want to keep both drives in.
[19:33] <sysierius> AAHHHH... i have here NO music ? bot i have speakers
[19:33] <sysierius> but*
[19:35] <adams> I have a pcmcia sound card and I cant seem to get flash to output any sound.  anyone aware of solutions that do not involve moving the bckend over to PulseAudio?
[19:48] <jimmy_> Can someone help me ?
[19:49] <riano> jimmy_: maybe.. it depends on your problem
[19:49] <uga> anyone here is also having trouble with locales with the last karmik package updates?
[19:49] <jimmy_> Hehe, I wanna download A torrent program called Vuze, but I dont know how
[19:49] <uga> I got them reset to en_US, and tried reconfiguring locales, but dpkg-reconfigure gave me this... http://pastebin.com/m77077108
[19:50] <uga> shouldnt it allow me to configure locales again???
[19:50] <jimmy_> bbl
[19:51] <uga> I tried setting LANG etc in the default config file, as you can see, at no avail
[19:52] <AlexZion> hi everyone, today I installed kde 4.3.rc1, but  there is a package with an error ..., I mean , the file "libindi0" can't be installed ...., any suggestion ?
[19:54] <AlexZion>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libindi0_0.6-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:54] <AlexZion> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:55] <uga> AlexZion: you possibly see more errors before that
[19:55] <uga> error code 1 is a generic error code. Doesn-t mean anything specific
[19:57] <gwtl> hi again
[19:58] <gwtl> (I asked earlier about a blank screen)
[19:58] <gwtl> I was wondering if somebody knew about a easy way to restore the display settings to default
[19:59] <AlexZion> that's what I get , trying with "sudo apt-get -f install", http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1488607
[20:01] <alarm> hello. i got a problem with the new kernel and/or nvidia drivers. after upgrading to the new kernel. i need like 3 times more time to boot into kde. what happens is that it appears the nvidia logo. then it shows me the console login, then again the nvidia logo, then again and console login... and after switching the monitor like 4-5 times on/off automaticaly it finally logs in
[20:01] <alarm> that happened after using the new kernel and reinstalling nvidia drivers again
[20:03] <uga> AlexZion: possibly the error explanation is this  tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/bin/indiserver', che si trova anche nel pacchetto ind
[20:03] <uga> AlexZion: but unfortunately I speak no italian other than figa, kazzo and spaguetti
[20:03] <AlexZion> so , what I should do ?
[20:03] <AlexZion> :D
[20:03] <uga> AlexZion: possibly people at #kubuntu-it can help better
[20:04] <AlexZion> that's good man .. :), in anycase, it means , attempt to overwrite `/usr/bin/indiserver which is in the package ind as well
[20:04] <ryann> alarm
[20:04] <uga> AlexZion: ok, then apt-get remove ind
[20:04] <alarm> yes please?
[20:04] <uga> and try resinstalling the pack
[20:05] <uga> AlexZion: that should do it
[20:05] <alarm> unfortunately i dont know where to look
[20:05] <ryann> alarm: i had something similar a few weeks ago.  does your grub show previous kernel imagtes?
[20:05] <alarm> sure
[20:05] <uga> gotta go now, fixing locales, an dnobody is helping here...
[20:05] <alarm> but if i use previeous kernel i need to reinstal nvidia drivers for that kernel
[20:06] <alarm> any ideas where or what i could look for ?
[20:08] <AlexZion> uga: nothing , the only solution seems to be remove "kstars" which needs of "indilib0"
[20:12] <AlexZion> so now I can go to cook some " spaghetti alle vongole " , delicious .. :D, thanks for your help ....
[20:20] <vbgunz> Any one trying 4.2.4 out? Do you have an nvidia with desktop effects enabled? Do you notice an insane peek at performance when you first startup? does your performance begin to drain though rapidly in less than a day making effects look shotty?
[20:21] <vbgunz> 4.2.95 actually sorry
[20:21] <loan> Bonsoir à tous !
[20:23] <ruhaan_> how do i get kubuntu to auto connect to a wifi network?
[20:38] <User3137> hello
[20:38] <User3137> i have a very big problem
[20:39] <tonii> interesting
[20:40] <brad777> Hello :-D I just recently purchased a new motherboard and I was wondering if I plug my current hard drive into the new one will I need to reinstall kubuntu?
[20:40] <tonii> good question. try and see? :D
[20:40] <User3137> i have 2 sata drives as raid-0 and 1 ide drive .. on the raid i have installed winxp ... and i installed kubuntu at the ide drive .. now if i start my pc i get a grub error and cant boot kubuntu or winxp
[20:41] <User3137> how can i get back my winxp?!
[20:41] <tonii> !info grub-rescue
[20:41] <tonii> ah, hm.
[20:41] <tonii> there is a way to rescue grub.
[20:41] <tonii> !grub-rescue
[20:42] <tonii> http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=grub+rescue&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[20:44] <User3137> i have no idea what to do
[20:45] <tonii> User3137: http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=grub+rescue&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[20:45] <User3137> i only want my winxp back .. there is a lot of data on it
[20:46] <NamShub> Hello
[20:46] <tonii> READ THE GOOGLE LINK I PASTED.
[20:47] <NamShub> I am writing a very simple script that toggles my screen (turn off compositing + disconnect second monitor) but I was wondering what command I can use to query the number of screen so I can do a "smart toggle"
[20:47] <NamShub> anyone knows the command to query the number of active screens / if twinview is activated?
[20:49] <User3137> @tonii: sry i am neewbie.. i dont know what to do
[20:51] <tonii> User3137: well, restore grub maybe.
[20:52] <User3137> how?
[20:52] <fg56lx> My Kmix isnt showing the slider for panning. How can I get it to show up?
[20:52] <tonii> User3137: I gave you a link, look at it and figure it out.
[20:53] <Captain_Haddock> User3137: try using supergrubdisk.org to boot into Kubuntu... You'll then need to edit grub to boot into the right discs/partitions.
[20:53] <User3137> sry as i said .. i am newbie .. and it is very hard to find the right harddisk as my winxp system is running at raid-0
[21:04] <engel> user3137: is the xp cd capable to create a mbr? maybe that would be a good solution to go for? but i don't know it for sure, since i left that sphere some decades ago
[21:05] <User3137> it has fixboot and fixmbr
[21:05] <User3137> but im not sure as it cant destroy partitions
[21:07] <engel> it cant? so you should be on the safe side?
[21:07] <engel> or what would you like to destroy?
[21:07] <User3137> sry it can ;)
[21:09] <User3137> but i wonder why kubuntu did that .. it shows me my raid part. on sda and sdb and my ide drive as sdc .. it installed on sdc and it said bootloader will install on sdc too
[21:13] <User3137> now i was able to start kubuntu with super grub disk.. what should i do next?!
[21:17] <engel> look for the systemsettings menu entry ... there should be a "extended" tab ... in the tab you have a "grub editor" ... it should be quit intuitive to use
[21:18] <engel> but be aware that you are the only one who knows your hardware config and how to handle it correctly
[21:18] <engel> there you can tell grub to reinstall on the "primary" mbr
[21:18] <engel> and you can also add a grub boot entry for you winxp partition
[21:20] <User3137> sry there is no grub editor
[21:20] <engel> but i don't know how the grub loader is able to jump into a raid partition, the last time i used grub in relation to raid i had to configure the boot options with some raid driver params
[21:21] <engel> so leave the kubuntu stuff and try to go the other way around ... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058/en
[21:22] <engel> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058/de
[21:23] <engel> maybe the keywords "MAP" and "FIXMBR" might help you
[21:30] <User3137> it worked with super grub disk .. i deinstalled grub with it .. THX a lot .. u guys saved my data :)
[21:32] <prova> list
[21:34] <gwtl> what is a good to restore basic failsafe settings to kde's window manager or x
[21:36] <dhq> how do i downgrade from 9.04 to 8.XX
[21:37] <Eternal_Sin> hi everyone
[21:39] <dhq> when ever i transfer files to my external harddrive my cpu hangs and crahes
[21:57] <Goliath23> hi
[21:57] <Goliath23> I try to install libqt4-dbg, but that fails:
[21:57] <Goliath23> libqt4-dbg: Hängt ab: libqtcore4 (= 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1) aber 4.5.1-1ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 soll installiert werden
[21:58] <Goliath23> I seem to have qt 4.5.1 installed but no -dbg packages are available for it!
[22:14] <christophe_> probleme de son avec kubuntu
[22:15] <baron86> Hello... i Got a question about modifying.. Its about adding custon background images in each folder
[22:17] <bogdan> hello guys, i am having a big problem with kopete...it won't show the list of my contacts
[22:17] <bogdan> i don't think it even connects
[22:17] <bogdan> can someone help me?
[22:22] <ubuntu> Oh I am completely lost, HELP me somebody. I have crashed my computer totally and I am locked, I cannot do anything at all if this does not work. I crashed my previous kubuntu while I was tryng to upgrade to karmic alpha 2 with alternate cd through internet. And now I am running an old desktop CD, the only one and the installer DOES NOT WORK. It says it check harddrives but exits there and nothing happens. Help?
[22:22] <domenico> hi
[22:24] <xuzas> !at
[22:24] <ubuntu> dpkg, can I restore something there? Hal, can i unlock drives there? and so on? Seems that some drive is locked or something so that hardrive check locks itself in an infinite loop.
[22:25] <ubuntu> Or is it possible to mount an desktop cd inside my desktop environment which is running from cd now? :D
[22:26] <ubuntu> I just want to restore my harddrive in someway. The only thing I can do for the moment is to restore from cd.
[22:27] <domenico> ho sorry
[22:27] <domenico> what's the list
[22:27] <domenico> please
[22:28] <domenico> the link of the list
[22:36] <ubuntu> Anyone?
[22:39] <ninjastyle> hi people
[22:39] <ninjastyle> anybody tried kde4 for mac?
[22:41] <Captain_Haddock> ubuntu: try using the alternate cd?
[22:42] <ubuntu> Captain_Haddock: I Am on that Cd right now :D And it was because of the alternate cd everything fucked up at the beginning.
[22:42] <Captain_Haddock> !language
[22:43] <Captain_Haddock> well, you shouldn't be messing with alpha software in the first place :)
[22:45] <ubuntu> Captain_Haddock: I know, but other people has been successful with karmic alpha.
[22:45] <xuzas> !at
[22:45] <ubuntu> Captain_Haddock: The problem was that I did not install a clean copy.
[22:46] <ubuntu> Captain_Haddock: I messed up and got to an infinite loop and initrd dissapeared and nothing worked. My only hope is/was my desktop live cd
[22:48] <ubuntu> Captain_Haddock: Well now I clean up my system anyway, thats good. I do not understand how I came up with a 40 GB drive when Kubuntu is so small from the beginning. Does cache never disappear in GNu/Linux? :D
[22:52] <tuvok> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-anubis" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[22:53] <tuvok> how do I get rid of these errors?
[22:55] <Captain_Haddock> darthanubis: is anubis a username?
[22:56] <darthanubis> yrd
[22:56] <darthanubis> yes
[22:56] <Captain_Haddock> have you tried just rebooting?
[22:56] <darthanubis> naturally
[22:57] <Captain_Haddock> darthanubis: that should have cleared /tmp, no?
[22:58] <darthanubis> is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[22:58] <darthanubis> cleared or not, it seems to be expecting a different uid?
[23:25] <Morydd> are there currently any options for getting kipi-plugins 0.4.0 in kubuntu other than compiling?
[23:29] <KDesk> Morydd: I think there is one deb, let me see.
[23:34]  * kesnol sais hello
[23:35] <KDesk> Morydd: I only found this http://packages.debian.org/sid/kipi-plugins you have to see if have all deps installed
[23:43] <Morydd> KDesk: thanks for looking. Not even close on dependencies. Oh well.
[23:44] <KDesk> Morydd: Do you use jaunty?
[23:44] <Morydd> KDesk: yes.
[23:45] <KDesk> Which packages you don't have?
[23:46] <AlexZion> hi guys , I have a problem with firefox, it doesn?t show me the integrated youtube video in the pages ...
[23:46] <dijonmustard> Anyone ever played with projectm?
[23:47] <Morydd> KDesk: http://pastoid.com/a4d
[23:47] <AlexZion> is always the same problem with firefox ... ?, I mean , the only way to fix it , is to delete the firefox profile folder ?
[23:49] <alexshenoy> hello
[23:49] <alexshenoy> can somebody help me with firefox 3.5 crashes in kubuntu. i was wondering if there were packages for the official release yet
[23:49] <KDesk> Morydd: ah, you need KDe 4.2.4 and Qt 4.5.1
[23:49] <KDesk> Morydd: you can get the stable KDE from here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[23:50] <Morydd> Yeah. It's not worth upgrading the whole system for the plugins right now. I'll let it be for now.
[23:50] <AlexZion> that's great , I0m trying to install firefox 3.5 in order to fix some problem .... :(
[23:52] <KDesk> Morydd: Qt from here https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/qt. KDE is recomended because of stability patches.
[23:54] <AlexZion> anyway guys , I think firefox is getting worst , always have some problem with flash contents ..., and personally I'm looking for something different ..., any advice ?
[23:54] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: don't use flash
[23:55] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: no, seriously.
[23:55] <dwidmann> Alex135: Arora? Opera?
[23:55] <phh> aleon04_: it will be the same with every browsers... the problem is just flash
[23:55] <phh> the only thing you can do is install flashblock
[23:55] <dwidmann> oops, wrong alex o_o
[23:55] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: you have problems with flash, because it's a binary blob that nobody apart from Adobe can do anything about
[23:55] <phh> wrong al* here :D
[23:56] <phh> ryanakca: yeah... nvidia's driver sucks too.
[23:56] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: and so, as soon as you use flash in Teh Browser Of Your Choice, things will start to fsck up
[23:56] <phh> god, there is too many people to use tab
[23:56] <dwidmann> phh: sad but true
[23:57] <AlexZion> look mate , I was using the ubuntu flash , but I got the sam eproblem ....
[23:57] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: you can try Chrome - process per tab means that when flash fscks up, only a tab get's to go to meet The Source
[23:57] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: as in: gnash?
[23:57] <dwidmann> I was just thinking about that actually ... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.labnol.org%2Fsoftware%2Fdownload-google-chrome-for-mac-linux%2F4555%2F&ei=PSRVSp_rNIb-Mf_E4OEN&usg=AFQjCNGvkV466ZgoAZeCEyOrbYqnp6UOGQ&sig2=MS3VeLUWPN4w3GiYbF6P6Q
[23:57] <phh> yeah, chrome is your best luck, still it's far from being a solution
[23:58] <rysiek|pl> besides, Ff is said to be going to get process-per-tab soon
[23:58] <AlexZion> I was using the free plaer for flash ...
[23:58] <AlexZion> or the adobe one , but the result is the same ...
[23:58] <phh> rysiek|pl: they don't release often, so this feature won't appear for public until some months
[23:58] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: see, the problem is: you can either use a binary blob from Adobe, and get full support for Flash features, but random crashes
[23:59] <phh> AlexZion: use flashblock, you'll have way less problems
[23:59] <Aizawa> I don't want to click that link, so I'm sorry, but chrome's released for linux now?
[23:59] <AlexZion> since I'm using linux ..., began with forefox 2.0.14 until now ...
[23:59] <rysiek|pl> phh: it's being done outside the trunk, AFAIK
[23:59] <AlexZion> always the sam eproblem ...
[23:59] <phh> Aizawa: there has been for weeks
[23:59] <phh> rysiek|pl: so not before years ?
[23:59] <Aizawa> oh
[23:59] <phh> Aizawa: but only a beta
[23:59] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: ...or use some free implementation (gnash, swfdec), but those are reverse-engineered