[03:12] <thumper> just saying something so it isn't tumbleweed town here...
[03:14] <lifeless> \|/-
[03:15] <thumper> lifeless: is that supposed to be a spinner?
[03:15] <lifeless> a tumbleweed
[03:17] <wgrant> thumper: I take it that using this didn't take off? I presume #launchpad@irc.c.c is not quite this dead...
[03:17] <thumper> wgrant: I think some people are still concerned about private details
[03:17] <wgrant> thumper: I suppose so.
[03:18] <thumper> wgrant: kfogel will be harassing people in private #launchpad-code once we open source
[03:18] <thumper> but until then...
[03:18]  * thumper shrugs
[03:18] <thumper> we are discussing timing in the team lead meeting tomorrow morning my time
[03:18] <wgrant> Aha.
[03:18] <wgrant> Good news.
[03:18] <wgrant> As long as the discussion doesn't postpone it even more!
[03:18]  * thumper doesn't like the 6am phone calls
[03:19] <thumper> wgrant: it depends on the bzr readiness
[03:19] <thumper> we need to make sure that bzr 1.17 doesn't have bad format 2 bugs
[03:19] <thumper> that is the most likely thing to cause delays
[03:20] <wgrant> OK.
[03:22] <lifeless> thumper: 2 isn't fully baked yet.
[03:23] <lifeless> thumper: but must of the raw edges are on upgrade, which you won't be exposing people to
[03:23] <thumper> right
[03:23] <thumper> lifeless: so format 2 will still be development for 1.17?
[03:23] <lifeless> its released and supported
[03:24] <lifeless> we don't anticipate format changes
[03:24] <lifeless> its just not polished enough to change it to default
[03:24] <lifeless> (remaining critical bugs, missing network delta support, ..)
[03:24] <thumper> lifeless: is the absent content factory one fixed?
[03:26] <lifeless> the one with send is not yet examined
[03:26] <lifeless> (ACF is hopelessly generic)
[03:26]  * thumper nods
[03:26] <lifeless> its like 'the segfault bug with evolution'
[04:37]  * thumper wills himself to continue writing the boring branch
[04:39] <wgrant> What's the boring branch?
[04:41] <thumper> accessing the revision cache
[04:41] <thumper> it'll give us faster counts of recent revisions and revision authors
[04:41] <thumper> and make the revision feeds not time out
[04:41] <thumper> but it is boring work
[06:31] <wgrant> Ah, good to see an attempt at Slashdotting prevention.
[06:32] <wgrant> How big will the new tree be, given the lack of history?
[06:34] <lifeless> do you mean disk size?
[06:35] <wgrant> Yes.
[06:35] <lifeless> there's still a bunch of code:P - fairly sizable
[06:35] <lifeless> I'm not sure of the exact size
[06:37] <thumper> wgrant: I can't really tell you that right now :)
[09:30] <thumper> bigjools: want to fix your broken build?
[09:30] <bigjools> thumper: you speak in forked tongue
[09:31] <thumper> :)
[09:31] <thumper> bigjools: I have something I want to land :)
[09:32] <bigjools> thumper: hassle IS :)
[09:32] <thumper> why?
[09:32] <thumper> why is it their problem?
[09:32] <bigjools> what are you talking about, exactly?
[09:32] <thumper> heh
[09:33] <thumper> http://buildbot.devpad.info/builders/lp/builds/477/steps/shell_7/logs/summary
[09:33] <bigjools> oh bollocks
[09:39] <bigjools> thumper: did you notice it broken for very long?  I didn't get any emails
[09:40] <thumper> I think it finished just over an hour ago
[09:40] <thumper> but I've only just sat down after dinner and kids in bed
[09:40] <bigjools> jeez, I landed it about 12 hours ago
[09:40] <thumper> working until Chuck starts
[09:40] <thumper> bigjools: the dev builder is still the slow one
[09:40] <thumper> that should get fixed
[09:40] <bigjools> seriously