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Ian_Cornewow00:00
Ian_Corneyogg +000:00
Ian_Cornewrong channel :)00:02
BUGabundoLOLOL00:03
BUGabundoIan_Corne: team metting ?00:04
Ian_Corneno, world of warcraft talk :p00:05
BUGabundoahaahhah00:20
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BUGabundowow https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/391398 is a mess00:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 391398 in gtk+2.0 "Applications segfault with gtk+ version 2.17.2 when selecting listbox values" [High,Confirmed]00:25
yofelhm... might have triggered that today as well in gnome-terminal settings00:31
yofelat least klicking on a listbox crashed it00:31
* BUGabundo has been afraid of using Open Menus for weeks00:34
rwwoh god, that bug is so annoying00:44
BUGabundorww: tell me about00:48
BUGabundoI used to crash FF several times a day00:48
pace_t_zuluhey guys, is banshee replacing rythmbox in karmic??01:21
bazhangyep01:22
billybigriggeryofel, you alive?01:33
billybigriggeryofel, you have any sound issues today after your fresh install?01:33
yofelbillybigrigger: nope, works (still) fine01:35
billybigriggerhmm01:35
yofelbillybigrigger: define sound problems01:36
billybigriggerusing alsa or pulse?01:36
billybigriggerno sound in vlc01:36
yofelall I did was listen to some music01:36
billybigriggeri go to the audio preferences and pulse isn't even an option01:36
billybigriggerwith what?01:36
yofelsmplayer, give me a moment to test vlc01:37
billybigriggerwhen in vlc, goto preferences, then audio01:38
billybigriggerwhats listed in the output dropdown?01:38
yofelbillybigrigger: works fine *after* installing vlc-plugin-pulse01:38
billybigriggerright01:39
billybigriggerforgot about that :P01:39
billybigriggerthanks for the reminder01:39
yofeltook me a few seconds to remember as well...01:40
yofelannoying...01:40
billybigriggernope01:41
billybigriggerstill not working01:41
billybigrigger*facepalm*01:42
billybigriggerhelps when the speakers are turned up01:42
billybigriggerdoh01:42
billybigriggerhaha i usually keep them on and control with the media keys on the keyboard, i don't know why the speakers were down, haha i feel like a....well....not that bright :)01:42
yofelhrhr "Did you plug it in?..."01:43
KjellAnyone know if it is safe now to upgrade jaunty to karmic now?01:48
bazhangKjell, unlikely in the extreme01:50
yofelgood night02:09
nhasianKjell, i did and its running just fine02:28
nhasianKjell, oh wait I take that back, i did a fresh install.  almost forgot02:29
nhasianKjell, but Karmic is still running fine for me.02:29
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/39498503:34
DanaGyargh.03:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 394985 in fglrx-installer "fglrx: Unknown symbol find_task_by_vpid" [High,Confirmed]03:34
DanaGoh, and: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/28431903:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New]03:35
BluesKajamarok2 is really unstable on my setup, can anyone recommend a decent audio player for network radio streams ?03:50
linuxman410is there not a kubuntu+1 channel04:35
PiciThere is not04:35
linuxman410oh ok04:36
thiebaudehi everyone04:36
thiebaudei like the new 9.10 login04:36
oldude67hey is anyone else having problems of computer just going to login screen out of no where?04:36
linuxman410i am downloading kubuntu 9.10 have not tried it yet04:37
thiebaudelinuxman410: im having no problems at all, except after login i get some gdm warning04:38
oldude67well other then getting knocked back to login in screen once in a while its not doing to bad..but...just annoying at times.04:38
linuxman410well i almost have it downloaded will let you know if i have any troubles04:39
linuxman410i ran 9.04 from beta and never had a problem04:40
thiebaudei did with the intel fiasco04:40
oldude67anyone got a suggestion as why im getting logged out for no reason..04:42
oldude67its not cause of any one key ...04:42
RAOFoldude67: I think that's a kinda-known gdm bug; once you've logged out the first time and log back in it no longer happens for me.04:45
oldude67ok well then its a known issue and im sure they're working on fixing it then. ty04:46
oldude67had an update todqy on gdm but dont think it fixed anything yet..so maybe in the next few days or so..no worries04:53
oldude67today^ ugh long day04:53
oldude67ah checking again now and there are more updates lets see if i get booted again..lmao05:03
thiebaudei'll check for updates too05:03
oldude67thiebaude, are you having issues as well with login and so forth?05:04
oldude67well updates didnt help yet...still did it again...right after i logged back in from a reboot....it booted me back to login screen again...ugh...wished i was smart enough to help fix the problem then to complain about it.lol05:29
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sahilhello, what does karmic do differently with acpi than jaunty?08:06
mase_worksahil: pretty broad question08:19
mase_worksahil: what specifically would you like to know. There are a bunch of acpi changes in the kewer kernels08:19
mase_workyou can check through the changelog on kernel.org if you really want to know08:20
mase_workabsolutely everything that changed08:20
sahilmase work: i will, the reason i ask the question is that the koala install goes smoothly and acpi works and with jaunty it doesnt08:20
sahilwith jaunty i have to turn acpi off to boot and install08:21
mase_workk well yeh you can have a look in the kernel logs to see which stuff affects your machine and do a git bisect to confirm it if you really want to know08:24
nanomadanyone is having problems with synaptics touchpad in karmic?09:02
afvwhat kind of problems?09:03
nanomadthe touchpad isn't recognized09:04
nanomadmouse pointer won't move09:04
nanomadlooks like an hal policy bug09:04
afvhmm.. no problems here..09:05
nanomadcan I have a look at your lshal & lspci?09:05
afvjust a moment09:07
nanomadafv, thanks09:07
afvsorry09:09
afvhttp://files.getdropbox.com/u/659315/lshal09:10
afvhttp://files.getdropbox.com/u/659315/lspci09:10
afvtry with .txt at the end :p09:10
nanomadafv, are you running the latest updates?09:13
afvyes09:13
afvand hal was updated some hours ago09:13
nanomadmhh, i saw that09:13
nanomadactually, i'm running the latest daily live cd09:14
nanomadit could be that09:14
afvhmm.. i don't know :\09:15
SiDiHi. is there still an issue with grub2 not letting you boot other distros when you install karmic on a machine ?09:40
|ns|nR8i installed older ubuntu before newer ubuntu with grub2 and it added the newer ubuntu to grub loader automatically09:42
|ns|nR8sorry installer older after09:42
|ns|nR8grub2 gave me troubles with not mounted other os's09:43
|ns|nR8install 9.04 after 9.10 and it works ok09:44
SiDiwell, i don't really want to reinstall 9.04 :/09:48
Ian_SiDi:09:57
Ian_there's no problem anymore09:57
Ian_iirc09:57
SiDiIan_: oh, ok09:57
SiDithanks09:57
Ian_i dual boot windows at home np09:57
Ian_for gaming ofc09:58
Ian_don't shoot me!09:58
SiDiIan_: depends, if you play an FPS i could shoot you :O10:09
Ian_hehe10:09
dupondjebleh :(10:52
dupondjefirst time I really needed to go back to Windows :(10:52
dupondjestupid flash, seems printing in flash doesn't work ?10:52
Ian_printing in flash?11:02
dupondjeyea11:04
dupondjeprint from a flash page11:04
dupondjehttp://pbskids.org/curiousgeorge/games/snapshot/snapshot.html <- play it11:05
dupondjethen try to print :P11:05
Ian_and what would you like to print?11:06
Ian_the printables?11:07
Ian_if that's it, i can print them with the yellow print button11:08
eagles0513875Ian_: any idea what kde svn repon the plasma-widget-network-manager would be in11:09
Ian_nope11:09
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dupondjeIan_: No, play the game, take 6 pics, and then you can press print inside the flash11:15
Ian_sorry don't have time for that atm11:16
dupondje:p11:17
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ActionParsniphey guys11:29
yofelwtf? top tells me I have a system load of ~779 with my notebook doing nothing...12:06
ActionParsnipyofel: what is the most cpu intensive task12:15
yofelalex-weej: firefox12:19
yofelalex-weej: sorry, didn't mean you12:20
BluesKajHey all13:58
afvhey13:58
yofelhi BluesKaj13:59
BluesKajhas anyone used or been able to enable grub2-splashimages14:00
BluesKajhi yofel14:00
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BluesKajI installed the deb , but it's not working/enabled for some reason...still got the same ol' ugly grub menu14:01
yofelBluesKaj: mom, billybringer posted a link where that's explained. let me search for it14:02
yofelyou need to enable it in /etc/grub.d/05_... or so14:03
yofelsince theming isn't yet supported in the current version14:03
BluesKajyofel, I have some themes working on karmic , not all the available ones work even if they are installed14:05
yofelBluesKaj: can't find the right one, this explanation is similiar http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-change-grub2-grub-pc-splash-image.html14:06
BluesKajthanks yofel14:07
* BluesKaj reads14:07
yofelBluesKaj: found it after all http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Splashimages.html14:08
yofellooking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Theming *does* help sometimes :P14:08
BluesKajyofel, your first URL post did the trick , the others are very similar and give the same instructions , but valuable nonetheless :)14:29
BluesKajgonna reboot and check grub14:29
rohdefPulseaudio can't find my sound card, I tried searching and found someone who fixed a similar problem by upgrading PA, but that didn't help me. Any ideas?14:52
rohdefok, could my probplem by any chance have something to do with the user not being in any of the following groups? audio, pulse, pulse-access or pulse-rt,15:05
Ian_yes15:06
Ian_it could :)15:06
Ian_try audio first15:06
rohdefIan_,  ok, can't I get you to check which groups the default user is in?15:08
BluesKajhmmm, update-grub after changing the grub-splashimage in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme like this tutorial claims to : http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-change-grub2-grub-pc-splash-image.html15:16
BluesKajwell, it's not updating the theme15:17
Whitorhello world15:23
rohdefanyone who might know why GDK doesn't load anymore when booting?15:31
arandrohdef: GDM? There was a mail saying it would break recently...15:36
rohdefarand, ok, so it's something that will be fixed in some package update?15:37
arandlet me get the mail text for ya, I think there was some trickery in straightening it out...15:38
yofelwasn't that only that it gdm will break when updating form ubuntu1 and 2 to ubuntu3 ?15:39
yofelother than that gdm works fine here, leaving aside the missing gdmsetup15:40
afv(working fine here too :))15:40
afvrohdef, when did you update?15:40
arandrohdef:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-July/000586.html15:41
rohdeftoday but the problem is older, a week or so15:41
yofelbut maybe somebody could tell me what could drive top to give me load values of: load average: 779.14, 779.26, 779.1615:41
rohdefthanks15:41
afv:|15:41
afv"load average: 0.26, 0.25, 0.19"15:41
yofelafv: yeah, thats normal here as well...15:42
afvdid you say firefox is the most cpu intensive task?15:43
afvhow much is it using?15:43
yofel10% cpu and 15% RAM15:44
afvlooks "normal"..15:44
yofelbut thats normal here, and usually doesn't lead to such insane load values15:44
afvi don't know then :\15:50
yofelsome kernel quirk I guess...15:50
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safeHello, I am using 9.04 and suddenly all of my user settings are lost.17:59
safeIt's like I am a new user.17:59
Picisafe: This channel is for 9.10 support and discussion, please use #ubuntu for all other releases.17:59
safeAlso, I can't connect to the internet, Skype Pidgin and nm-applet are disappeared (but I think running).17:59
reto`hey... how about the new updates? any problems? I'm not sure if should try them out...18:17
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BluesKajhmm, installed graphicsmagick , but it' doesn't seem to be installed ..tried aptitude, apt , adept, and synaptic ...the results are all the same , not found in /usr/bin/ either19:00
PiciBluesKaj: What are you looking for in /usr/bin/ ? it looks like it only puts 'gm' in there19:02
BluesKajok Pici , where do i find the executeable ?19:06
billybigriggerafternoon all19:23
yofelhi billybigrigger19:24
billybigriggeryofel, howdy19:24
billybigriggerDanaG, hey19:25
DanaGy'ello.19:25
charlie-tca__Hello, billybigrigger19:27
billybigriggerola senoir's19:28
billybigriggerpretty quiet on the updates today19:28
yofellet's hope that after the ubuntuone beta ppa updated its packages bug 395710 won't get any more duplicates...19:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395710 in ubuntuone-client "Opening "Places/Computer" nautilus crash with Segmentation fault" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39571019:50
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billybigriggeranyone here testing the new networkmanager ppa?19:52
billybigriggernetwork-manager:19:53
billybigrigger  Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt119:53
billybigrigger  Candidate: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt119:53
billybigriggereverytime i login i have to disable, then re-enable my wired connection for it to get picked up19:53
billybigriggerand who here has a raid?19:56
billybigriggeri see mdadm auto mounts my raid, but i don't see an entry in fstab19:56
billybigriggerand its mounting to /media/<ARRAY UUID> and not the /media/storage dir i want19:57
Sarvattbillybigrigger: try making the network settings available to all users? its stopped remembering my saved keyring settings on login now and i have to reenter my password every time so it might be related20:01
billybigriggeri don't have to enter a pw for my wired connection20:01
billybigriggerunless im misunderstanding you20:02
Sarvattright click connection icon, edit connections, click on the connection and go to edit and check the available to all users box maybe?20:02
GilesHow do I stop this silly: 'These windows do not support "save current setup" and will have to restarted manually next time you log in' messages about Gdm-simple-greeter20:03
Gilesit happens each time I log in.20:03
billybigriggerSarvatt, its greyed out20:03
billybigriggergnomefreak, hea20:03
billybigriggerhow about a heya!?20:04
PiciGiles: Its a known issue20:04
gnomefreakbillybigrigger: hi20:04
GilesPici: ok thanks.20:04
gnomefreakPici: what issue?20:04
Sarvattdarn its greyed out here too now20:04
billybigriggerrunning same version as me?20:04
Picignomefreak: the 'these windows do not support save current setup' message after you login.20:04
Sarvattyep20:04
billybigriggerhmm20:05
gnomefreakPici: ha yeah that20:05
Sarvattmaybe it works differently because of the whole policykit-1 stuff now and not working right yet20:05
GilesPici: what about a password dialog to mount my NTFS partition, that pops up most times too.20:05
Sarvattyou can probably fix that by changing authorizations in system - administration - authorizations Giles20:06
gnomefreakGiles: that is annoying as hell20:06
billybigriggeri get a passwort prompt on everything, inserting usb thumb drive, and when i go to access my raid array20:06
* gnomefreak off to work on this20:06
Sarvatti dont, odd20:06
Gilesgnomefreak: whats annoying as hell?20:07
billybigriggerSarvatt, checking sys>admin>authorizations20:07
Sarvatti've got myself as an explicit authorization for that stuff, but i have no darn clue how it all works20:08
billybigriggeri see network-manager-settings/system/Modify system connections20:08
gnomefreakGiles: the auto mount of crap including 2nd hard drive20:08
billybigriggeranyone no, console no, active console admin authenitcation20:08
GilesSarvatt: I don't want it to mount my NTFS partitions at-all20:08
billybigriggerSarvatt, whats yours say?20:08
Sarvattadmin authentication keep indefinitely20:09
billybigriggerhmmm20:09
Sarvattuser robert always authorized under explicit20:09
billybigriggerwhere did you set your user to always be authorized?20:10
Sarvattnext to explicit it has a grant button20:10
GilesThats great, but why is it trying to mount my NTFS partition at login, I would like it to mount only when I tell it.20:10
GilesThen I would like it to ask me my pass.20:11
Sarvattadd it to fstab and noauto?20:11
Sarvattah20:11
billybigriggerSarvatt, cool going to test it20:11
GilesSarvatt: no its not in my fstab atall.20:12
billybigriggerGiles, add it20:12
billybigriggerwith the noauto option20:12
Gilesbut, why should I need to now, whereas before it wasn't?20:12
GilesI just upgraded karmic, and it stopped working right.20:12
GilesSarvatt: or is this a work-around?20:13
Sarvatti have no idea, probably something with the change to devicekit-disks instead of hal, i dont understand how it works but i just added it to fstab to work around it for now20:14
Gilesok ta.20:14
billybigriggerSarvatt, nope20:15
Sarvattdarn20:15
billybigriggerstill have to disable and re-enable wired connection20:15
Sarvatti had to do that on jaunty with my wireless if i didnt allow all users like that in network manager, but the allow all users thing is greyed out now so i cant do that anymore if i add a network20:16
Sarvatthad to disable and reenable it i mean20:16
billybigriggerahh20:16
billybigriggerman i just sneezed about 20 times in a row20:16
billybigriggerlook at all the pretty colors everyone!!!20:17
robin0800billybigrigger, Swine flu?20:17
billybigriggermaybe a bit20:17
billybigriggerwow, what a rush20:18
billybigriggerok, so where to go from here Sarvatt file a bug? or keep playing with authorizations?20:18
billybigriggerits more a pita than anything, like i never get asked for a password prompt20:18
billybigriggerso i am authorized to enable networking....20:18
billybigriggerohh, nice thunder and lighting storm...brb20:20
Sarvattdoes your network-manager-applet say 0.7.0 too?20:21
billybigriggeryes20:21
Sarvatthmm20:21
billybigriggerso does bugabundo20:21
billybigrigger's20:21
billybigriggeri think he was going to mention that to asac20:21
Sarvattwonder if we're using the old one still20:22
billybigriggerhe said anyway, i don't know who hes talking about20:22
billybigriggerno no20:22
billybigriggerapt-policy shows the daily version from ppa20:22
robin0800Sarvatt, 071 here20:22
Sarvattyeah we're using the daily builds of 0.8.0, i guess it would say 0.7.1 if we were using the old one still20:23
billybigriggeryeah20:23
Sarvatthttp://git.gnome.org/cgit/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=6f0e0ae8e12672af6e11ac23172b4d35c139232020:26
billybigriggeryesterday?20:27
Sarvattgoing to try updating it and see if there are any changes20:27
billybigriggeri just did 30 mins ago, nothing but the banshee ppa20:27
billybigriggeranyone here using empathy to talk on google talk or msn right now?20:29
billybigriggeri can't seem to connect to either20:29
Sarvatti mean manually updating it20:30
Sarvattbuilding a new package20:30
billybigriggerhow do you go about doing that?20:30
billybigrigger:O20:30
billybigriggeri didn't know you could do that20:30
billybigriggerguess you have to be in the loop to know things like that eh Sarvatt ? :P20:30
tgpraveenbillybigrigger: whats ur prob with gtalk voice chat?20:33
billybigriggergtalk anything20:33
billybigriggernetwork error20:33
tgpraveenmsn aint supported right now20:33
Sarvatti'll link the new files when its done building if you want to test it, are you on i386 billybigrigger?20:33
billybigriggercan't connect to either20:33
billybigriggernope20:33
billybigriggeramd6420:33
Sarvattdamn go figure20:33
billybigriggerhehe20:33
Sarvattoops sorry for the language20:34
billybigriggerdon't bother me20:34
billybigriggertgpraveen, i can't connect to anything, just for regular im20:34
tgpraveenhmm. which version20:34
billybigriggerhttp://imagebin.ca/view/aKOwejm.html20:36
billybigriggertgpraveen, ??20:41
tgpraveencheckin20:41
billybigriggerahh ok20:41
Sarvattbillybigrigger: my x64 machine isnt set up right now and ppas are backed up for days. if you want to try it whenever it builds -- https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/more-bugs20:42
tgpraveenbillybigrigger: r u using the daily ppa?20:42
billybigriggertgpraveen, of empathy? yeah20:42
billybigriggerdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amoog/empathy-daily/ubuntu karmic main20:43
billybigriggeris that the right one?20:43
tgpraveenyeah20:43
billybigriggerSarvatt, ok, ill keep an eye on it i guess :P20:43
tgpraveeni am on daily ppa too20:43
tgpraveenmy gtalk works fine. i dont use msn20:43
Sarvattyou can grab the .orig.tar.gz .dsc and .diff.gz and dpkg-source -x blah.dsc then sudo apt-get build-dep network-manager-applet and debuild -uc -us -b from the network-manager-applet directory20:43
tgpraveenmaybe try asking in #telepathy20:43
billybigriggerhmm20:44
billybigriggerSarvatt, i can build that from my home?20:45
Sarvattor just add the ppa and apt-get source network-manager-applet instead of grabbing the stuff manually20:45
Sarvattyep20:45
billybigriggerk20:45
billybigriggerwill build manually, im bored :P20:45
Sarvattonly takes a minute even on this crappy atom cpu :D20:46
billybigriggeri take it sudo dpkg-source?20:46
Sarvattthats to extract it if you manually downloaded it20:46
Sarvattapt-get source if its in your sources and you've updated them20:47
billybigriggerextract all or just the .dsc?20:48
billybigriggertgpraveen, #telepathy is dead haha20:49
yofelbillybigrigger: apt-get source *should* have unpacked it already20:51
billybigriggerwhere is nm-applet dir?20:52
yofelif you have the .dsc etc. files then the .dsc is enough20:52
yofelbillybigrigger: what did you download20:52
yofel?20:52
billybigriggerall three20:52
yofelthen dpkg-source -x *.dsc20:52
billybigriggerand then dpkg-source -x blah.dsc20:52
billybigriggerthen sudo apt-get build-dep network-manager-applet20:53
billybigriggernow i need to run debuild -uc -us -b from nm-applet dir20:53
billybigriggerbut i can't find the dir20:53
Sarvattreplacing blah.dsc with the actual .dsc file name20:53
billybigriggerof course20:53
yofelgood, then you should have a source directory calld network-manager-applet-$version20:53
Sarvattcd network-manager <hit tab>20:53
billybigriggerahh20:53
billybigriggeri was looking in /usr/bin and /usr/src20:53
billybigriggernot ~/network-xxxxxxxxxxxx20:54
billybigrigger:P20:54
Sarvattyou might need to sudo apt-get install devscripts too20:54
billybigriggerdoing that now20:54
billybigriggeri can skip postfix config yes?20:55
Sarvattyeah just purge it after :D20:55
Sarvatthate how the mta is required for devscripts20:55
* billybigrigger loves watching the compiler spit out garbe he doesn't understand20:57
billybigrigger:P20:57
billybigriggergarbage20:57
billybigriggerwow, can't type20:57
billybigriggerno errors20:57
billybigriggernow i get to reboot and see if its fixed! :P20:57
Sarvattyou'll have a network-manager-gnome deb in ../ afterwards you can install, just sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome/karmic when you want to revert back to what you had before20:58
billybigriggerhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/more-bugs/+files/network-manager-applet_0.8~a~git.20090708t182005.7d53772b.orig.tar.gz20:58
billybigriggeroooops20:58
Sarvatt:D20:58
billybigriggernetwork-manager-gnome_0.8~a~git.20090708t182005.7d53772b-0ubuntu1~nmt1_amd64.deb20:59
billybigriggerthats the .deb i just compiled?20:59
Sarvattyep20:59
billybigriggerwhoopie!20:59
billybigrigger:P20:59
billybigriggerk gonna reboot20:59
billybigriggeroh20:59
Sarvatti just kept the funky name and made it quick to test out20:59
billybigriggerSarvatt, are you good with analyzing bootchart?21:00
Sarvattwhats the problem?21:00
billybigriggeri chopped down my boot times from 1:09 yesterday, and they were at 0:19 now im back up to :30+21:00
billybigriggeri have a bunch of lags i don't know how to remove them21:00
Sarvattwow, 19 seconds is great21:01
billybigriggerhttp://imagebin.ca/view/E5K_pp.html21:01
billybigriggerya it was great21:01
billybigrigger:P21:01
Sarvattkarmic went up 10 seconds vs jaunty for me21:01
Picibillybigrigger: Looks like you installed a new kernel version and thus dkms needed to run21:01
Sarvattthats because of dkms21:01
Sarvattyea what he said :D21:02
Picior new drivers for dkms to compile21:02
billybigriggerhappens after multiple reboots21:02
billybigriggeri was playing around with virtualbox networking yesterday21:02
PiciIts going to happen often on an alpha due to all the new packages we're getting.21:02
Sarvattwe had 2 or 3 kernel upgrades yesterday21:02
billybigriggerbut its the same bootchart over and over21:02
billybigriggerhmm21:02
billybigriggerwell ill see this time around21:03
billybigriggernothing updated but network-manager-applet since last reboot21:03
billybigriggerbrb21:03
Picidkms shouldn't need compile every boot.21:03
billybigriggerno it shouldnt21:03
Sarvatthopefully its gone this time, something with how you edited vbox probably if not21:03
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.ca/148877921:03
billybigriggerthink the last entry is giving me problems?21:04
billybigriggeri think thats the only thing i was playing with yesterday21:04
billybigriggerwhich is something else i need to fix, my virtual server won't run with networking...so im hooped for all my mail from mailing lists :(21:04
Sarvatti saw virtualbox 3 building on some PPAs yesterday21:05
billybigriggernice21:05
billybigriggeri've been waiting for that21:05
PiciProbably21:05
billybigriggerim glad it made karmic :P21:05
Sarvatthttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose21:06
billybigriggerso how far past import freeze do we still have to get pkgs added?21:06
Sarvattclick on the Other versions of 'virtualbox-ose' in untrusted archives. dropdown21:06
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billybigriggerwhich ppa should i add?21:06
Sarvattit'll get updated man, import freeze just means no automatic imports anymore and people have to manually do it :D21:06
billybigrigger  [PPA Archive]  PPA for VirtualBox  owned by Felix Geyer  ?21:06
Sarvattno idea!21:07
billybigriggerhehe21:07
Sarvatthttps://edge.launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/virtualbox maybe?21:07
billybigriggerwell ill remove this ose-guest module and see if thats the problem21:07
billybigriggeryeah thats felix's21:07
billybigriggerthats the one i was thinking21:07
billybigriggermore on that later :P brb21:08
billybigriggernope21:11
billybigriggernm-applet still being picky21:12
billybigrigger0:19 boot again though21:12
billybigriggerafter removing that one troubled vbox module from dkms21:12
billybigriggertgpraveen, is there anything special i have to do for gtalk to work? what settings are you using for it? i can't connect, msn is working now though21:13
yofelasked that already, but does any of you guys have an idea what could cause the kernel to report me load values of  779.03, 779.08, 779.0821:22
gnomefreakis nautilus still crashing for anyone?21:23
yofelgnomefreak: with new ubuntuone, no21:23
gnomefreakit was ubuntuone causing nautilus crash?21:23
yofelat least if you mean a crash when you open computer:/// or trash:///21:23
gnomefreaki cant say that is right since nautilus crashes on the installer21:24
yofelwell, thats the only crash I was getting21:24
gnomefreaki wasnt able to debug it last night but maybe ill try over weekend21:24
beda_hello folks.21:27
beda_I was trying to install kubuntu-daily build (karmic) but got this message. "Udevd [1974]: Worker 2120 unexpectedly returned with 0" You know why?21:27
beda_there was some I/O error on device sr0 as well21:27
GHellingsI'm trying out Karmic to see how it's handling my SoundBlaster X-Fi card... so far, no luck.21:29
GHellingsIt's only recognizing the device as [HD-Audio Generic] and producing no sound output.21:30
billybigriggertgpraveen, add me to gtalk so i can test this21:31
billybigriggerthefrozencanuck@gmail.com21:31
billybigriggerthen you can delete me21:31
billybigriggerhaha why does gnome-do crash with "Do.exe" cause a problem21:32
yofelbillybigrigger: mono?21:32
yofelI just had to kill it because gnome-do from their ppa has a memleak an was using >1G RAM :(21:33
Sarvattbillybigrigger: look at the comment log here -- http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=c9067d8fedf6f6f2d530fd68bbfca7ce68638d3821:33
Sarvatteverything: use libgudev instead of HAL; merge NM and nm-system-settings21:34
SarvattThe only thing that doesn't work yet is the system-settings service's "auto eth" connections for ethernet devices that don't have an existing connection.21:34
gnomefreakbillybigrigger: for email addresses its best  to use AT and DOT so bots scanning wont add it and bring spam to it21:34
Sarvattso maybe make an explicit connection instead of using the auto one?21:34
billybigriggergnomefreak, thanks for the tip, never thought of that :P21:34
Dimitreewhere is the Login appearance option in Administration ?21:34
Sarvattgone now21:35
billybigriggerDimitree, new gdm doesn't have one21:35
Dimitreebillybigrigger, i get an error on each restart about that gdm that it must be manually restarted or something ... what should i do ?21:35
billybigriggerhave you updated lately?21:36
Sarvattignore it until its fixed21:36
Dimitreeok Sarvatt21:36
billybigriggeroh, talking about the gdm greeter bug?21:36
Sarvattthe joys of using an early alpha :)21:36
billybigriggeri thought it was making you restart each time you login21:36
billybigriggerSarvatt, ok, i made a manual entry in nm, will try now21:37
beda_so nobody knows what this error is all about ""Udevd [1974]: Worker 2120 unexpectedly returned with 0"21:37
Sarvatti just built a new network manager snapshot too but i saw that in the changelogs21:37
DimitreeAny idea if the update removed my custom DVB-S2 drivers, or the Kaffeine build for 9.10 is broken ?21:38
Sarvattudev isnt loading v4l things right for me either (no webcam modules being loaded)21:39
beda_Sarvatt: what is udev anyway?21:40
Sarvattit handles loading/unloading modules in the kernel21:42
billybigriggerSarvatt, 10-421:42
beda_Sarvatt: hmm... did you get a "Buffer I/O erro on device..." as well?21:42
billybigriggermy gspca/sonixj webcam isn't working21:43
Sarvattbillybigrigger: it worked?21:43
billybigriggerSarvatt, what did?21:43
billybigriggeri havent rebooted21:43
billybigriggeryet21:43
billybigriggerSarvatt, i can help ya with that webcam problem if you'd like :P or be happy to test, i would like my cam working in .3121:43
Sarvattoh thought you were talking about the network thing21:44
billybigrigger10-4 on the udev problem21:44
* BUGabundo the beared guy, say moooo o/21:48
robin0800BUGabundo, it should be honk honk for swine flu21:49
BUGabundoahah21:49
BUGabundoso how is the SSH exploit hitting you guys?21:49
SwedeMikeBUGabundo: still a rumour.21:51
charlie-tca__BUGabundo: do you know any Xubuntu Karmic users using localized desktops? (with other than English)21:52
BUGabundono charlie-tca__21:52
BUGabundoI new two but one is no more21:52
charlie-tca__Thanks21:52
BUGabundoand lost track of the other21:52
BUGabundo:(21:52
charlie-tca__:-(21:52
charlie-tca__Well, karmic on Xubuntu is not very good right now21:53
BUGabundo:(21:53
BUGabundowhy?21:53
charlie-tca__Anyone else got Xubuntu Karmic?21:53
charlie-tca__apparently the new gdm changes are causing many things to quit for us21:54
BUGabundocharlie-tca__: *if* I have the time tomorrow I'll try a VM21:54
charlie-tca__The cd's only install the gnome desktop21:54
BUGabundoI need to connect to over 100 REHL machines for mantaneince :(21:54
charlie-tca__I can't use SSH, SSHFS, brasero won't work, blank cd-r is not recognized, network connection is slow21:55
robin0800charlie-tca__, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/alpha-2/21:55
charlie-tca__the little things21:55
charlie-tca__robin0800: I know, but I run an install everyday here21:56
charlie-tca__Also running karmic on this machine21:56
robin0800charlie-tca__, lucky you21:56
charlie-tca__yeah21:56
charlie-tca__Somebody got to test this stuff ;-)21:57
charlie-tca__and, it seems it is *still* alpha21:57
charlie-tca__But at least today I could actually log in21:58
billybigriggerSarvatt, nope21:58
billybigriggerSarvatt, can't even get a connection when i add one manually21:58
GHellingsRegular Karmic desktop has been quitting semi-regularly on me, charlie-tca__21:58
billybigriggerdhcp works, but still doesn't connect upon gnome login21:58
charlie-tca__I got it made then. It hasn't quit on me at all21:59
yofelhasn't quit on me as well21:59
GHellingsAnd no sound, to boot!21:59
robin0800nor me21:59
Bmw1000cBUGabundo pvt22:00
GHellingsOf course, sound didn't work in 9.04 either, so I was really only holding out a fool's hope. :)22:00
charlie-tca__of course22:00
charlie-tca__Was that a fresh install?22:00
GHellingsNo, I'm going to try that later today.22:00
charlie-tca__That's what I did. It seems to be working here anyway22:01
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GHellingsI have the X-Fi, with it's still beta-at-best driver.22:01
GHellingsAnd the driver doesn't seem to be recognizing the card.22:01
charlie-tca__yeah... Google just took gmail out of beta after, what, 4 years?22:02
GHellingsMore like 7 or 922:03
charlie-tca__Just think, got nowhere to go but improve now!22:03
charlie-tca__:-)22:03
GHellingsI wish all betas were as stable as GMail. Or as functional!22:04
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BUGabundoDanaG: ping was it you who had trouble with webcam ? or was it billybigrigger ?22:19
billybigriggerme22:20
billybigriggerever since .3122:20
BUGabundook22:20
BUGabundotalking to my driver dev22:20
BUGabundolet me see if I can make him cam her22:20
BUGabundo*come here22:20
billybigriggeryour driver dev? did you hire him? :)22:21
BUGabundonaaaa22:21
BUGabundohe has been doing a great work with 05e3:050322:22
BUGabundoan now we have a now version with gspca22:22
billybigriggeroh22:22
billybigriggerBus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-100022:22
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/39103522:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,New]22:23
dupondjecan somebody confirm ?22:23
billybigriggernope22:23
billybigriggermy downloads are always shown22:23
dupondjeweird22:24
dupondjehere it starts showing22:24
dupondjeand suddenly22:24
dupondjeit stops22:24
yofelwhat I get sometimes is that after the update is finished it doesn't get redrawn, but I think thats something with compiz22:24
yofelor kwin since it only happens in yakuake22:25
yofelbut I get the feeling that I heard somebody saying that a while ago too22:25
billybigriggergnome needs something like yakuake22:26
billybigriggeri liked it, but not worth install all those qt libs22:26
yofelbillybigrigger: there's tilda and guake, but neither really suits me22:26
billybigriggerand i found out gnome-terminal had tabs so it sits in gnome dock now :P works just as good22:26
billybigriggerBUGabundo, you have any problems with the daily build of nm-applet not connecting your wired connection upon gnome login?22:27
yofeltilda and guake both look like gnome-terminal maximized with F11 but only taking up the top half of the screen -> urgh22:27
BUGabundonol: welcome22:27
BUGabundonol meet #ubuntu+1 folks22:28
nolhi22:28
BUGabundofolks meet nol, the hard working guy behing my webcam driver22:28
* BUGabundo takes a look at the build of the driver22:28
* GHellings greets nol22:28
yofelhi nol22:29
BUGabundoeheh such a great welcome22:32
BUGabundobillybigrigger: let nol fix his latest mess, and let see if he can help you out too22:33
charlie-tca__Hello, nol22:33
billybigriggerola nol22:33
billybigriggerok so i don't even know where to begin22:36
billybigriggerwhat webcam do you have BUGabundo ?22:36
billybigriggerand what module does it use?22:36
DanaGnetworkmanager PPA? Where?22:36
billybigriggerDanaG, lemme dig it up22:37
billybigriggerhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/trunk/ubuntu22:37
DanaGRight now, I just have the ModemManager one.22:37
billybigriggerhah my bad22:37
nolBUGabundu has a Genesys Logic 05e3:050322:38
nolWe are testing a driver intended to be included in GSPCA22:38
BUGabundobillybigrigger: oh come on! stop giving away kewl secret stuff!22:39
BUGabundoI want to keep NM 0-8 just for me :))22:39
dupondjeargh22:39
BUGabundoDanaG: there are 3 PPAs22:39
billybigriggeroops22:39
billybigriggerhaha22:39
billybigriggermy bad boogoboontooo22:39
BUGabundoone with 0.8 +mondem manager22:39
dupondjestupid gdm, why does it sometimes logouts without any reason :'(22:39
BUGabundoone with 0.7+modem manager22:39
BUGabundoand one with jut 0.7.122:39
* BUGabundo Kernel build directory is /lib/modules/2.6.31-1-generic/build22:40
BUGabundomake -C /lib/modules/2.6.31-1-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/bugabundo/temp/gspca_final/gspca-45dd40f72cb0/v4l  modules22:40
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.ca/148887422:40
billybigriggerthats what i get when i load up cheese and the webcam light goes on22:40
billybigriggerbut nothing but green shows up22:40
billybigriggerwill paste my /var/log/udev now, that parts that pertain to gspca anyway22:42
DanaGoh yeah, I added nm-applet to the gdm init, so now it has networking.22:42
DanaGOh, and you can enable the media-keys thing there, too.22:43
socmhh, doies someone get that dpkg error too?22:43
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.ca/1488880 <<---/var/log/udev22:43
billybigriggernol, lsmod shows gspca_sonixj           24064  022:44
billybigriggergspca_main             26592  1 gspca_sonixj22:44
billybigriggerthis helping at all?22:44
billybigriggerlsusb shows Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-100022:45
DanaGhttp://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/22:45
nolthere is a fix today about sonixj in the gspca repository22:45
DanaGspiffy.22:45
billybigriggernol, really?22:45
BUGabundosee billybigriggerl? are I a great resource to know ? ahah22:46
nolyes22:46
billybigrigger:P22:46
billybigriggerBUGabundo, eff eh22:46
billybigriggereffin eh22:46
billybigriggeranywho22:46
billybigriggerwhat does it fix?22:46
nolhttp://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca/22:50
nolsomething about sensor initialisation, don't know if it can help you22:50
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BUGabundoshee nol soooo many more errors now! see pvt22:52
billybigriggerthat sounds like my problem22:52
BUGabundoWOOT22:53
BUGabundonow you only need the next kernel build22:53
billybigriggeri just can't find out where in my log it reported about senor problem22:53
billybigriggerBUGabundo, if it makes .31-322:53
billybigriggeroh nevermind22:53
billybigriggeri should think before i speak :P22:53
BUGabundobillybigrigger: daily kernel ?22:53
billybigriggergpsca is built into the kernel :P22:53
billybigriggerooooh22:53
billybigriggerdaily kernel, sounds verry....interesting :P22:53
billybigriggerso that fix has already been added to the kernel?22:55
billybigriggeror is it waiting to be pushed?22:55
billybigriggernol, so whats the quickest way i can get that fix?22:57
billybigriggeror do i have to wait for that fix to be added to gpsca, then the kernel, then ubuntu's kernel?22:57
BUGabundoit was TODAYS change!22:58
billybigriggeroh22:58
billybigriggertoday's change to gpsca though22:59
billybigriggerit still has to make its way to the kernel, i don't see anything on the kernel snapshot for today at kernel.org22:59
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billybigriggerwow i sure know how to kill a conversation today23:29
skkuldugerHooray! :)23:31
skkuldugerOk having a little issue with the installer essentially within 10 minutes of it starting Ubiquity crashes23:31
skkuldugertrying to crash it again to get a backtrace. This is the daily CD from two days ago23:32
skkuldugerI knew I should have gotten the alternate installer >_>23:35
billybigriggeroh23:36
billybigriggeri could have told you daily cd doesn't work :P23:36
skkuldugerTHanks!23:36
billybigriggerbetter off getting june's A2 cd23:36
billybigriggerim sure yofel could too23:36
billybigrigger:P23:36
skkuldugerWEll I got one from last week and it worked but I don't have it with me now :(23:36
skkuldugerWhat doesn't work specfically?23:36
yofelbillybigrigger: yup :P23:37
skkulduger:-) What doesn't work?23:38
yofelskkulduger: when I tried the daily yesterday it didn't even boot23:39
yofeldidn't even start to boot23:39
Skkulldugerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/213271/23:41
SkkulldugerLooks like trying to update the GUI got it messed up23:41
afvanyone having problems with firefox-3.5 and flash?23:53
BUGabundoafv: define probs?23:55
afvyes23:55
afvcrashing after visiting (or during the visit) to a site with flash..23:55
afvand errors like this ones (but i don't know if it is related)23:55
afv(firefox-3.5:21833): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead23:56
afv(firefox-3.5:21833): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.21.3/gobject/gsignal.c:2387: instance `0xa76df500' has no handler with id `5439'23:56
afv(firefox-3.5:21833): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_xatom_to_atom_for_display: assertion `xatom != None' failed23:56
skkulduggerI have a healthy disrepsect for Arora now :)23:56
afvit also crashed viewing fullscreen flash videos but solved running with "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 firefox-3.5"23:56

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