[09:47] <janrinze> hi
[09:48] <janrinze> is there a way to get a armv7 version of Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:51] <ogra> no
[09:51] <ogra> well, there is but involves that you rebuild everything yourself
[09:51] <janrinze> v6 then?
[09:51] <ogra> right, karmic will be v6+vfp
[09:52] <ogra> jaunty is v5 with some libs being vfp
[09:52] <janrinze> ok. is there a repo for karmic?
[09:52] <dirk2> janrinze: Do you know the "How does this differ from the work of mojo.handhelds.org " section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM FAQ ? Maybe mojo.handhelds.org can help you. Not sure, though
[09:52] <ogra> ports.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <janrinze> i have used mojo before.. on XScale.. but that only had armv5. maybe the latest ones have better support though.
[09:53] <ogra> mojo has stopped with interpid
[09:53] <ogra> and they use nonstandard architecture names for their packages
[09:53]  * dirk2 learned again something ;)
[09:53] <ogra> which makes it close to impossible to crossgrade from mojo to ubuntu
[09:53] <janrinze> yep.. i noticed the activity at mojo had stopped..
[09:54] <janrinze> i though because Ubuntu now started to support arm they move to the main ubuntu support activities.
[09:55] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-arm-cloud-builds might be instresting for you for a ful v7 rebuild
[09:55] <janrinze> oops.. 'thought'
[09:55] <ogra> *full
[09:55] <ogra> but its still in the works
[09:56] <janrinze> ogra: ok.. a bit too much for me a.t.m.
[09:57] <ogra> well, karmic's userspace should work for you
[09:57] <janrinze> so as far as i can see only OE/Angstrom does full armv7/armv6 builds
[09:57] <ogra> see the rootfs from scratch wikipage from the topic if you want a rootfs
[09:58] <janrinze> ogra: that will only prebuilt binaries, right?
[09:58] <ogra> right, with jaunty we tried to support at least some of the debian architectures which forced us into v5 ... there is more v7 HW now so karmic does v6+
[09:59] <ogra> that will only assemble a rootfs tgz from the archive
[09:59] <janrinze> ogra: using debs with prebuilt binaries for armv6?
[10:00] <ogra> yes
[10:02] <janrinze> ogra: the script on the webpage will install jaunty, how to change that to get karmic?
[10:03] <janrinze> just change 'echo "deb ${MIRROR} jaunty ${COMPONENTS}" >/etc/apt/sources.list' ?
[10:03] <ogra> oh, sorry, right, i'm about to add a --dist option :) just change the two occurences of jaunty in it to karmic for now
[10:03] <ogra> there is another line with jaunty
[10:03] <janrinze> ok.
[10:03] <janrinze> sed will be my friend ;-)
[10:05] <janrinze> ogra: in karmic the arch is still armel?
[10:05] <ogra> yes, that wont change
[10:05] <janrinze> ok.. will that prevent karmic from running on XScale?
[10:06] <ogra> not sure, i dont have any XScale HW
[10:07] <janrinze> hmm.. will a dist-upgrade work with jaunty?
[10:08] <ogra> sure
[10:10] <janrinze> ok.. just added karmic to apt-sources
[10:11] <janrinze> should i keep jaunty in the sources.list too?
[10:13] <ogra> well, just make sure your jaunty is up to date with the latest upgrades
[10:13] <janrinze> ok.
[10:13] <ogra> before you dist-upgrade to karmic
[10:13] <ogra> then you can just comment out jaunty
[10:14] <janrinze> ok.
[10:17] <janrinze> ogra: jaunty defaults to getting the imx51 linux headers. is there a OMAP3 package too?
[10:18] <ogra> no
[10:18] <janrinze> ok.
[10:18] <ogra> there are third party packages for beagleboards
[10:19] <ogra> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[10:19] <ogra> not sure how much they help on XScale though
[10:20] <janrinze> the XScale is not my concern a.t.m. was just curious.
[10:20] <janrinze> i run on ubuntu jaunty the BB
[10:21] <ogra> ah
[10:21] <janrinze> i do have a XScale platform which i would like to upgrade one time ;-)
[10:22] <janrinze> ok.. will do dist-upgrade now.
[10:22]  * janrinze is making more coffee and starts thinking about what to do in the next 8 hours or so.
[13:06]  * janrinze is still looking at the dist-upgrade progressing..
[16:15] <janrinze> the only way to get gcc to compile inline NEON instructions is to use -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp. Will that still be compatible with libraries such as libc?