| evonise`emp | its installing now btw... lets pray :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| evonise`emp | and how about a dirty cd/dvd player? | 00:00 |
| evonise`emp | it also says: calculating files to skip :s | 00:01 |
| PsynoKhi0 | that's normal | 00:01 |
| evonise`emp | 25% :ooo | 00:01 |
| evonise`emp | go on :D! | 00:01 |
| evonise`emp | DAMN | 00:02 |
| evonise`emp | 25% :/ | 00:02 |
| evonise`emp | anyone else has an idea :D?? | 00:02 |
| onewart | have you tried the alternative (text-based) install disc? | 00:03 |
| evonise`emp | onewart yes | 00:03 |
| onewart | what is your processor type? | 00:03 |
| evonise`emp | not exactly the same problem, but it freezed | 00:03 |
| evonise`emp | AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (1666 MHz) | 00:04 |
| onewart | are you able to book the "live" version? | 00:04 |
| onewart | s/book/boot/ | 00:04 |
| evonise`emp | onewart book? | 00:04 |
| onewart | sorry, boot | 00:04 |
| evonise`emp | i can enter the live version | 00:04 |
| onewart | like to try it out? | 00:04 |
| evonise`emp | yes sure | 00:05 |
| evonise`emp | i can start he live version if thats what u mean | 00:05 |
| evonise`emp | ill do it | 00:05 |
| onewart | you don't have to. i was just wondering.. | 00:05 |
| evonise`emp | oh ok | 00:05 |
| evonise`emp | yes then i can heh.. | 00:05 |
| onewart | you formatted the drive to? ext3? | 00:05 |
| evonise`emp | yes, as standard | 00:06 |
| evonise`emp | "use the whole disk" | 00:06 |
| evonise`emp | it said something about ext3 yes | 00:06 |
| onewart | it's hanging on copying files, huH? | 00:06 |
| evonise`emp | btw i made this bug report yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/396244 | 00:06 |
| evonise`emp | ye mostly | 00:06 |
| SiDi | how much RAM ? | 00:06 |
| evonise`emp | 512 mb | 00:06 |
| SiDi | are you sure the CD is working ok ? | 00:07 |
| SiDi | and the drive too ? | 00:07 |
| evonise`emp | the cd is working fine i think, i chceked almost everything | 00:07 |
| evonise`emp | the drive not.. | 00:07 |
| evonise`emp | duno how to check | 00:07 |
| onewart | well you'd think the drive is working since the live desktop loaded... | 00:08 |
| evonise`emp | this bug report is (i think) my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/253321 | 00:08 |
| onewart | i notice that you tested memory and that passed | 00:08 |
| evonise`emp | yes true, the live stuf fworks good | 00:08 |
| evonise`emp | well it tested memory for about 1,5 hrs | 00:08 |
| evonise`emp | was still going on and i wanted to go to bed :p, no errors during that time | 00:08 |
| onewart | 3 passes is enough | 00:09 |
| evonise`emp | dunno how long that takes | 00:09 |
| onewart | so you're probably fine | 00:09 |
| evonise`emp | well.. define fine :p | 00:09 |
| evonise`emp | cus its still not working | 00:09 |
| onewart | i mean.. the memory is probably fine if it passed 3 cycles | 00:09 |
| evonise`emp | hah ok | 00:09 |
| evonise`emp | im in the live boot now, can i check anything? | 00:10 |
| onewart | have you had problems with the hard drive in the past? | 00:10 |
| SiDi | see the comment about cd drive | 00:10 |
| evonise`emp | lol there is sound now | 00:10 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi, i did that workaround | 00:10 |
| SiDi | maybe your drive is having problems when asked to read too much | 00:10 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi at least i tried | 00:10 |
| SiDi | evonise`emp: would you mind trying to install another distro ? | 00:10 |
| SiDi | a non debian based | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi u mean this comment: Aleksey1977 wrote on 2008-12-31 | 00:11 |
| SiDi | yeh | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi, as long as it can do internet/email.. | 00:11 |
| SiDi | evonise`emp: i mean for testing the drive ;) | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | and as long as its faster than xp -.- | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | ah yes sure | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | haha | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | cant i check anything now? im in the live cd boot | 00:11 |
| evonise`emp | isntall logs or something? (somebody told me that) | 00:12 |
| SiDi | usually when it hangs at the beginning it means you're out of ram, but with 512 it shouldnt happen | 00:12 |
| evonise`emp | ok,, | 00:12 |
| SiDi | maybe you could launch the install in command line | 00:12 |
| SiDi | its "ubiquity" afaik | 00:12 |
| onewart | you could try installing from a usb drive | 00:12 |
| onewart | assuming you have one | 00:12 |
| SiDi | onewart: thats cheating ! :P | 00:13 |
| onewart | hah | 00:13 |
| SiDi | (netinstall from a minimal ISO too, they weight 9MB, shouldnt be too stressing for your drive / ram) | 00:13 |
| evonise`emp | onewart i watned to do that :p | 00:13 |
| evonise`emp | ye SiDi, i remember that from fedora, but is taht possible with ubuntu? | 00:13 |
| SiDi | yeh | 00:13 |
| evonise`emp | onewart, i wanted to do that with usb, i made the usb-stick, then it turned out my pc couldnt boot from a usb stick -.- | 00:14 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi how :D | 00:14 |
| SiDi | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 00:14 |
| evonise`emp | ok ocol | 00:14 |
| evonise`emp | im burning it | 00:15 |
| SiDi | okey | 00:15 |
| onewart | you'll want to choose the package su | 00:15 |
| SiDi | i think im going to go sleep though | 00:15 |
| onewart | ugh | 00:15 |
| SiDi | its over 1 am :( | 00:15 |
| evonise`emp | true SiDi :) | 00:16 |
| SiDi | i wake up in 6 hours | 00:16 |
| evonise`emp | thanks anyway mate | 00:16 |
| SiDi | no problem | 00:16 |
| evonise`emp | hah i wont :D im a bad sleeper | 00:16 |
| SiDi | see you and good luck | 00:16 |
| evonise`emp | SiDi thanks mate, good night | 00:16 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: I have Windows | 00:18 |
| onewart | Windows sucks! | 00:18 |
| onewart | but that's why you're here, right?! ;) | 00:18 |
| Name141 | onewart: make *buntu work right with my hardware then | 00:18 |
| PsynoKhi0 | onewart: it's good when you want to use an exe file to install ubuntu on a USB drive :) | 00:19 |
| psuboy | Hi...I am a linux nubie...but it is really going well | 00:19 |
| psuboy | I love Xubuntu... | 00:19 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: isn't this the same as going in the live disk and telling it to make it to a flash drive? | 00:19 |
| psuboy | I am having 2 issues i wanted to know if anyone had a solution | 00:20 |
| evonise`emp | PsynoKhi0 and onewart, im gonna try that mini.iso now :) | 00:20 |
| onewart | PsynoKhi0: well actually, you could use the package usb-creator and create the bootable usb drive ;P | 00:20 |
| onewart | from linux, of course | 00:20 |
| Name141 | onewart: I'm about ready to load up hardy. Or say "oh well" to Linux | 00:20 |
| psuboy | the first is that playing mp3 files crashes my machine | 00:20 |
| PsynoKhi0 | onewart: from a live cd? | 00:20 |
| evonise`emp | onewart PsynoKhi0, shall i do command line install? | 00:21 |
| psuboy | using listen music player | 00:21 |
| onewart | yeah "cli" | 00:21 |
| evonise`emp | onewart, cli, is that easy? | 00:21 |
| psuboy | I have thought of converting to ogg format.. | 00:21 |
| onewart | i've actually never used it ;p | 00:22 |
| PsynoKhi0 | evonise`emp: I don't know really, but at least you will bypass your cd-rom drive for now | 00:22 |
| onewart | psuboy: try "sudo aptitude install quod-libet" | 00:22 |
| evonise`emp | PsynoKhi0 ok :) | 00:22 |
| onewart | you may like that player more, and it might work! | 00:22 |
| psuboy | ok | 00:22 |
| onewart | errr | 00:22 |
| onewart | it's "sudo aptitude install quodlibet" | 00:22 |
| psuboy | quod-libet is a converter or mp3 player | 00:22 |
| onewart | audio manager and player | 00:22 |
| onewart | i prefer it over listen | 00:23 |
| evonise`emp | brb.. | 00:23 |
| psuboy | cool...I was actually pretty impressed with listen when I popped in a cd but the mp3 was disasterous | 00:23 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: I think the pendrive install skips grub and is more geared towards usb flash, as opposed to installing from the live cd | 00:23 |
| psuboy | I am amazed at how easy I got my lamp server up | 00:24 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: eh? | 00:24 |
| PsynoKhi0 | that would treat you flash as a standard drive | 00:24 |
| onewart | psuboy: do you have your mp3s organized in folders? | 00:24 |
| onewart | psuboy: or are they really messy? | 00:24 |
| psuboy | no...all in one...would it be better to organize...i do not have that may | 00:24 |
| psuboy | I would say messy | 00:24 |
| psuboy | I pulled them off a crashed windows hard drive to a thumb drive and then just kind of dumped them in the music folder | 00:25 |
| onewart | psuboy: well quodlibet does have a library, but i don't like "loading" things into a library, so i use View -> File System | 00:25 |
| onewart | psuboy: regardless, i'd more interested to see whether quodlibet crashes when you attempt to play an mp3 | 00:27 |
| psuboy | Ok...I will load it and see... | 00:27 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: the standard install from the live cd has the "stationary, plater harddrive" in mind, where as pendrive linux has instructions specifically for removable USB storage | 00:27 |
| psuboy | then try organizing...will report back... | 00:28 |
| onewart | psuboy: well organizing is entirely up to you and your preferences | 00:28 |
| PsynoKhi0 | then again it might not be a issue for you, just keep that in mind | 00:28 |
| psuboy | ok... | 00:28 |
| onewart | psuboy: just select View -> File System, then find and play an mp3 | 00:28 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: So I will have the ability to install directly to the flash drive in a real install that will accept updates, etc? | 00:28 |
| psuboy | yea...I just play one mp3 ...it plays fine but I can not do anything else...takes up all my memory and then i can not quit...need to shut down machine..not to elegantly I might add | 00:29 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: with the pendrive howto? yes, that the purpose of the "persistent" install | 00:30 |
| psuboy | I only have 1/4 Gig of memory...but I cant believe that is the issue... | 00:30 |
| onewart | psuboy: you said you were able to play a cd just fine, but not an mp3? | 00:30 |
| psuboy | ritght... | 00:30 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: I don't understand what "persistent" means even. | 00:30 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: a LiveCD isn't persistent | 00:31 |
| Name141 | OK.. | 00:31 |
| PsynoKhi0 | you lose your settings and the modifications you've done when you reboot | 00:31 |
| Name141 | So persistent means "changeable" | 00:31 |
| Name141 | Yes. | 00:31 |
| onewart | psuboy: try this... "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-restricted-extras" | 00:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | persistent means it saves settings and vomes back in the state you left it | 00:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | vomes -> comes | 00:32 |
| psuboy | ok...I am kind of new...that is a whole package? | 00:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: can you boot form your USB drive? | 00:33 |
| PsynoKhi0 | from* | 00:33 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: Can I use the disk rather than the ISO? | 00:33 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: I don't have the ISO anymore. Yes I can boot from the Flash Drive | 00:33 |
| onewart | that's a series of packages relating to audio/video codecs | 00:33 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: there is still something bothering my with having it done from windows though | 00:34 |
| PsynoKhi0 | let me check | 00:34 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: It looks like I can only use the ISO / | 00:34 |
| Name141 | ? | 00:34 |
| psuboy | OK...I suspected the codec I loaded may be the issue...I will try that...thanks for your ideas and help Onewart! :-) | 00:34 |
| onewart | psuboy: you're welcome! | 00:36 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: ok so... no ISO... no internet connection? | 00:38 |
| Name141 | PsynoKhi0: Capped internet. | 00:39 |
| evonise`emp | PsynoKhi0 hi! | 00:40 |
| evonise`emp | PsynoKhi0, i did the text based install | 00:40 |
| evonise`emp | PsynoKhi0 onewart, but now when i boot it, it doesnt show a gui | 00:41 |
| evonise`emp | only text based linux | 00:41 |
| onewart | ok | 00:41 |
| onewart | sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 00:41 |
| PsynoKhi0 | :) | 00:41 |
| evonise`emp | :d | 00:41 |
| evonise`emp | isnt that installed standard? | 00:41 |
| onewart | you were using a ubuntu mini iso | 00:41 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: tough cookie... | 00:41 |
| evonise`emp | ye true :o | 00:41 |
| onewart | which does not contain anything...really | 00:41 |
| evonise`emp | it also asks me to log in.. i can turn that off right | 00:42 |
| evonise`emp | xubuntu desktop? | 00:42 |
| evonise`emp | not ubuntu? | 00:42 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ubuntu-desktop will get you the standard gnome install | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | k illtry | 00:43 |
| onewart | we're in an xubuntu channel..... | 00:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | xubuntu-desktop will be | 00:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | WJUAIJDFEFef | 00:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | WAIT | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | :O | 00:43 |
| onewart | xubuntu uses XFCE4, which owns | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | did that.. | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | lol | 00:43 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ... | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | its not wroking | 00:43 |
| evonise`emp | btw, its dutch now | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | kon pakket ubuntu niet vinden | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | couldnt find packet ubuntu | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | -.- im stupid nvm | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | so ubuntu or xubuntu :D? | 00:44 |
| PsynoKhi0 | xubuntu | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | either will work rihgt? | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | why x- ? | 00:44 |
| evonise`emp | :p | 00:44 |
| onewart | because we're in an xubuntu channel!!! | 00:45 |
| PsynoKhi0 | ubuntu is heavier on your specs | 00:45 |
| evonise`emp | i c | 00:45 |
| PsynoKhi0 | and because yes, it's a xubuntu channel, what do you expect ppl to recommend? | 00:45 |
| evonise`emp | wth it will dl 1409 mb | 00:45 |
| evonise`emp | haha PsynoKhi0 :D! | 00:45 |
| PsynoKhi0 | xubuntu is the lightest variant of the official ubuntu versions | 00:45 |
| evonise`emp | ok, but what is +- 1400 ?? | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | i mean the cd was 700 mb p | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | ;o | 00:46 |
| PsynoKhi0 | compressed | 00:46 |
| onewart | you used the mini.iso | 00:46 |
| onewart | which was like 9mb | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | yes i know | 00:46 |
| onewart | you have to download the rest ;) | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | i know that | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | but the normal cd is 700 mb | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | and what i download now is 1400 | 00:46 |
| PsynoKhi0 | COMPRESSED | 00:46 |
| PsynoKhi0 | gee | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | YE WHY :D | 00:46 |
| evonise`emp | i read that.. | 00:47 |
| PsynoKhi0 | it's 700 compressed, once installed it takes above 2 gig | 00:47 |
| PsynoKhi0 | you d/l them uncompresses | 00:47 |
| PsynoKhi0 | -s +d | 00:47 |
| evonise`emp | ye why doenst it download compressed, takes shroter time? | 00:47 |
| evonise`emp | thats the only thing im wondering about, i understood the rest.. | 00:48 |
| PsynoKhi0 | could be cause I'm an idiot thinking about something else | 00:49 |
| evonise`emp | maybe | 00:50 |
| evonise`emp | anyway, thanks for the support, didnt tell u that :) | 00:51 |
| PsynoKhi0 | also in the xubuntu channel you shouldn't feel complied to agree with everything people say... | 00:51 |
| PsynoKhi0 | :D | 00:51 |
| onewart | xfce4 > gnome | 00:51 |
| onewart | ;) | 00:52 |
| evonise`emp | ill remember that ;) | 00:52 |
| evonise`emp | lol and in ubuntu channel, they will say the other way? | 00:52 |
| onewart | perhaps... | 00:52 |
| evonise`emp | onewart, since i did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and after alot of extracting, my laptop screen is black for about 5 mintes, although it is stil doing something | 00:58 |
| evonise`emp | that normal? | 00:59 |
| PsynoKhi0 | press an arrow key | 00:59 |
| evonise`emp | oh lol | 00:59 |
| PsynoKhi0 | screensaver :D | 01:00 |
| evonise`emp | i c now :) | 01:00 |
| evonise`emp | wtf :D | 01:00 |
| onewart | hehe | 01:00 |
| onewart | evonise`emp you have xubuntu up yet? | 01:11 |
| PsynoKhi0 | Name141: still stuck? | 01:16 |
| evonise`emp | onewart, PsynoKhi0, it is working :D | 01:29 |
| evonise`emp | although half english half dutch, i dont understand | 01:30 |
| onewart | Applications -> System -> Language Support | 01:31 |
| onewart | fool around in there ;) | 01:31 |
| PsynoKhi0 | evonise`emp: nice :) | 01:31 |
| evonise`emp | thanks guys! | 01:32 |
| PsynoKhi0 | so your CD drive was the issue | 01:32 |
| evonise`emp | really apreciated | 01:32 |
| evonise`emp | ye i think so | 01:32 |
| onewart | evonise`emp: you're welcome.. stick with linux; it's great :) | 01:32 |
| evonise`emp | im going to bed guys | 01:32 |
| evonise`emp | onewart as long as it works :D | 01:32 |
| evonise`emp | ill try it out as much as possible | 01:33 |
| onewart | sweet! take care! goodnight | 01:33 |
| evonise`emp | yes, sweet indeed ^^ | 01:34 |
| evonise`emp | cya, you too | 01:34 |
| evonise`emp | bye | 01:34 |
| evonise`emp | u2 PsynoKhi0 ;) | 01:35 |
| PsynoKhi0 | am off too, nite | 01:36 |
| QuantumKaos | overdated laptops and xubuntu's too slow? | 01:38 |
| coffeej | I need help getting gspca set up | 01:38 |
| _Pete_ | QuantumKaos: I guess that's how you define "slow" ? | 01:39 |
| QuantumKaos | _Pete_:"that's" what? | 01:40 |
| _Pete_ | QuantumKaos: http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic | 01:41 |
| _Pete_ | this is slow for me | 01:41 |
| QuantumKaos | i dont get it, what is that? | 01:42 |
| _Pete_ | it is quadcore cpu with 8G memory and raid0 array | 01:42 |
| QuantumKaos | so what? | 01:43 |
| _Pete_ | so as it is quite fast | 01:43 |
| _Pete_ | more fast would be better | 01:43 |
| QuantumKaos | i was suggesting zenwalk in alternative to xubuntu cuz xubuntu is way slower then zenwalk, zenwalk runs like if i had a quadcore on my 486 laptop :D | 01:44 |
| psuboy | PSUBoy humbly bows to Onewart for fixing his mp3 player | 02:07 |
| psuboy | It must have been the codec I loaded to play mp3s | 02:07 |
| psuboy | it is running like a champ now! | 02:08 |
| onewart | psuboy: you're welcome! now enjoy linux! | 02:08 |
| psuboy | I have to tell you I am digging it | 02:09 |
| psuboy | It was long overdue...I am glad I erased windows and went 100% w/ xumbuntu... | 02:09 |
| onewart | psuboy: i still dual boot with Vista, but i never use it =p | 02:10 |
| psuboy | well, I have to use vista for work...we are a Windows shop | 02:10 |
| psuboy | but I hate it...I find myself sneeking away to peek at the linux blogs | 02:11 |
| onewart | psuboy: check Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers and make sure you're graphics card's driver is in use | 02:11 |
| psuboy | ok | 02:11 |
| onewart | psuboy: then poke around here Applications -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks | 02:11 |
| onewart | psuboy: under Compositor I really enjoy some of the transparency and shadow options | 02:12 |
| psuboy | yep...great idea...I already...played around a bit...you can do some cool stuff... | 02:13 |
| psuboy | Onewart.. you are right on target....my driver is not activated...It is telling me I should use the proprietary Nivida 3D accelerated graphics card | 02:16 |
| onewart | and you should ;) | 02:16 |
| psuboy | so I am pulling all my graphics off my ram right now? | 02:17 |
| onewart | no, you're using a basic 2d driver, not accelerated 3d | 02:17 |
| onewart | actually, you may be using a basic 3d | 02:17 |
| psuboy | ahhh | 02:17 |
| onewart | but it's not accelerated; that's the key! | 02:18 |
| psuboy | even so...everything is still so good | 02:18 |
| onewart | for video playback, i'd suggest VLC | 02:19 |
| onewart | instead of Movie Player | 02:20 |
| onewart | just a personal preference, though | 02:20 |
| psuboy | it is struggling to load the driver | 02:27 |
| onewart | psuboy: what do you mean? | 02:28 |
| psuboy | I tried to load the driver and it downloaded very slow...then it started loading..I thought ok...seems fine..then I got an error | 02:29 |
| psuboy | the Jockey backend crashed. | 02:29 |
| psuboy | so it just tried again and it said it is removing driver...now I am going to try to add again. | 02:30 |
| onewart | psuboy: hmm. that is odd. | 02:30 |
| psuboy | yea...seemed like it was going to work then it just died...I am going to watch this time | 02:31 |
| psuboy | Ok...reboot time...see you in a bit... | 02:34 |
| psuboy | Onewart...I feel like I just took off my beer goggles | 02:41 |
| psuboy | I was definitely in 2D | 02:41 |
| onewart | well now you need a beer =P | 02:41 |
| psuboy | dang...I do ...alas the fridge is empty...I may have to make a martini | 02:42 |
| psuboy | the system has sped way up also... | 02:42 |
| psuboy | there is no lag...it is like I just bought a brand new computer | 02:42 |
| onewart | yeah, it was your lack of accelerated graphics | 02:42 |
| onewart | by the way, linux never slows down | 02:43 |
| onewart | it always performs exactly the same ;) | 02:43 |
| psuboy | it is truly awesome... | 02:43 |
| psuboy | to think...I was ready to put this box on the curb with a free to a good home sticker on it. | 02:43 |
| onewart | hah! | 02:44 |
| psuboy | i can not get the smile off my face... | 02:44 |
| onewart | linux is the primary o/s on all of the computers in my office, not just the old ones | 02:45 |
| psuboy | well, this is just the first for me...I am making it a server and getting an newer laptop... | 02:45 |
| onewart | what sort of server? | 02:46 |
| psuboy | lamp | 02:46 |
| psuboy | I already have it set up | 02:46 |
| onewart | cool. | 02:46 |
| psuboy | trying to teach myself php and mysql | 02:47 |
| onewart | i have a virtual server through www.linode.com | 02:47 |
| onewart | fuck PHP | 02:47 |
| onewart | ruby & ruby on rails is the way to go ;P | 02:47 |
| psuboy | oh yea...I have heard of it | 02:47 |
| onewart | for database driven web applications it's amazing | 02:48 |
| onewart | some say the learning curve is steep, but once you get it, it's great. trust me | 02:48 |
| psuboy | oh yea...my office does asp /.net with MS SQL | 02:48 |
| onewart | ish @ microsoft products | 02:48 |
| psuboy | yep I know... | 02:49 |
| onewart | save yourself the headache, and learn ruby on rails | 02:49 |
| onewart | the syntax is easier to understand | 02:49 |
| onewart | and the database logic is already pre-programmed | 02:49 |
| psuboy | SQL is pretty solid but every thing microsoft is klunky | 02:49 |
| psuboy | can i set up ruby on rails on this machine? | 02:50 |
| onewart | of course ;) | 02:50 |
| onewart | i'd recommend a few ebooks | 02:51 |
| psuboy | I just see so much php...plus php and mysql = pretty easy...at least so far...I am just starting all of this.. | 02:51 |
| onewart | Sitepoint's Simply Rails 2 | 02:51 |
| psuboy | ok | 02:51 |
| onewart | Apress's Beginning Rails from Novice to Professional | 02:51 |
| onewart | Addison-Wesley's The Rails Way | 02:52 |
| onewart | and possibly Pragmatic Programmer's Agile Web Development with Rails, 3rd | 02:52 |
| onewart | I'm just learning ruby on rails myself | 02:53 |
| onewart | i used to be a perl developer | 02:53 |
| psuboy | any web tutorials... | 02:53 |
| onewart | yeah | 02:53 |
| onewart | http://guides.rubyonrails.org/ | 02:53 |
| onewart | the channel #rubyonrails is great too | 02:54 |
| psuboy | I programed in college way way back..but am trying to so some self teach | 02:55 |
| onewart | I just graduated from college this spring | 02:55 |
| psuboy | I will have to check it out... | 02:55 |
| psuboy | awesome...tough time...what do you do? | 02:56 |
| onewart | i started my own rinky-dink web development and computer repair business | 02:56 |
| onewart | i'm in rural Wisconsin | 02:56 |
| psuboy | Badger? | 02:57 |
| psuboy | I am a PSU alum | 02:57 |
| onewart | Well, no, i went to the University of Minnesota | 02:57 |
| psuboy | better! :-) | 02:57 |
| psuboy | my company is looking for programers now | 02:58 |
| _Pete_ | how much do you pay? | 02:58 |
| psuboy | ASP, Ajax, MS-SQL, some jave, jquery | 02:58 |
| psuboy | decent not the highest | 02:58 |
| _Pete_ | and what is that? | 02:58 |
| psuboy | general web dev | 02:58 |
| psuboy | I am not in dev...I manage the installations | 02:59 |
| psuboy | I am guessing entry in 40s but that is just a pure guess | 02:59 |
| _Pete_ | what is 40s? | 02:59 |
| psuboy | I just brought a guy in last spring at about 35 and he is not a programmer | 03:00 |
| _Pete_ | I am | 03:01 |
| psuboy | $40K / year salary... but that is a pure guess in the dark | 03:01 |
| _Pete_ | so what do you offet? | 03:01 |
| _Pete_ | r | 03:01 |
| psuboy | what type of software? | 03:01 |
| forces | :O | 03:01 |
| psuboy | if interested check out this url... | 03:02 |
| forces | where can I send my C.V.? | 03:02 |
| psuboy | i think there is a software engineer job... | 03:02 |
| _Pete_ | psuboy: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/540 | 03:02 |
| psuboy | hang on one sec... | 03:02 |
| psuboy | http://www.schoolwires.com/20071062295925423/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=55511 | 03:03 |
| psuboy | or...www.schoolwires.com/careers | 03:03 |
| psuboy | you can submit a resume there... | 03:04 |
| psuboy | we are located in State College PA...next to Penn State | 03:05 |
| _Pete_ | and where the hell is that? | 03:05 |
| onewart | lol | 03:05 |
| psuboy | well it is heaven not hell :-) | 03:05 |
| psuboy | too funny pete | 03:05 |
| _Pete_ | its not | 03:06 |
| _Pete_ | only stupid to assume all are in USA | 03:06 |
| _Pete_ | like you migth be | 03:06 |
| psuboy | so any how...onewart...if you are interested it is a pretty good company...Inc 500 two years in a row... | 03:09 |
| psuboy | very high client satisfaction...and nice people to work with | 03:10 |
| onewart | psuboy: cool. if i give up on my dreams of being a successful entrepreneur and my own boss, i'll consider schoolwires. i've booked-marked the site | 03:13 |
| bittin | somone here knows anything about wvdail? | 03:13 |
| onewart | errr. bookmarked rather | 03:13 |
| _Pete_ | onewart: :D | 03:13 |
| psuboy | cant say I blame you...I think building your own deal is tops | 03:14 |
| _Pete_ | sounds like pyramidscheme | 03:15 |
| onewart | someone got me to attend a pyramid scheme one time | 03:16 |
| onewart | it was hilarious | 03:16 |
| onewart | they're great scam artists | 03:16 |
| _Pete_ | indeed | 03:17 |
| n2diy | can I go down stairs, and log in here, from my test box? Or do I need to log out of up here first? | 03:17 |
| _Pete_ | I want those 160,0000000 | 03:17 |
| onewart | i want to be one of the 0.02% who makes that much! | 03:17 |
| psuboy | you need to start it...and then you need to live with the fact that you just screwed someone over... | 03:18 |
| _Pete_ | then you have more luck that psuboy offers | 03:18 |
| psuboy | I offer nothing... | 03:19 |
| _Pete_ | why did you post those joblinks then? | 03:19 |
| psuboy | Just an opportunity if someone wants it...not working in my department... | 03:19 |
| onewart | psuboy: i appreciate your generosity :) | 03:20 |
| psuboy | they are real...if hired you would not work for me...I am in a different area | 03:20 |
| psuboy | of the company | 03:20 |
| psuboy | so the jobs don't really impact me directly...I was just letting people know about them..same as I tell people about the great experience I am having with Linux :-) | 03:22 |
| _Pete_ | and how indirectly they impact you? | 03:23 |
| onewart | psuboy: your experience with ruby on rails will be even more powerful than your experience with linux | 03:23 |
| onewart | y;) | 03:23 |
| psuboy | Pete, if hired we would work for the same company...in the same office... | 03:24 |
| bittin | somone know how to get mobile broadband to work with wvdail? | 03:25 |
| onewart | bittin: sorry, i'm not familiar with wvdial | 03:25 |
| _Pete_ | psuboy: did you read my CV? | 03:25 |
| psuboy | no | 03:25 |
| onewart | bittin: did you try the general ubuntu channel? #ubuntu | 03:25 |
| _Pete_ | and willing to move me to there | 03:25 |
| bittin | onewart: yes | 03:25 |
| psuboy | Pete, why would I read it? | 03:26 |
| psuboy | I am not doing the hiring... | 03:26 |
| _Pete_ | psuboy: because you were seeking job seekers? | 03:26 |
| psuboy | Pete, sorry for the confusion...I am not looking to hire ...it is just with a company that I work for | 03:28 |
| psuboy | as far as relocation I think it would depend on what you bring to the table | 03:28 |
| _Pete_ | see the url above | 03:28 |
| psuboy | but that is not my call...I know we have done some relocation but not much | 03:29 |
| _Pete_ | but do you still realize where I live? | 03:29 |
| psuboy | no...I closed my session by accident and lost the url... | 03:30 |
| _Pete_ | ok then | 03:31 |
| psuboy | I take it you are not in the USA | 03:31 |
| _Pete_ | I live in Finalnd | 03:31 |
| _Pete_ | Finland | 03:31 |
| psuboy | cool... | 03:31 |
| _Pete_ | but still if you have good offer | 03:32 |
| _Pete_ | I will consider it | 03:32 |
| psuboy | it may be...you can apply..the offer is for a software engineer... | 03:32 |
| _Pete_ | that's the one I am entitled now | 03:33 |
| psuboy | Finland is a long way off from USA... | 03:33 |
| _Pete_ | It's also where linux is from | 03:33 |
| psuboy | Where it started.. yep. I know... | 03:34 |
| psuboy | and our football is not the same. :-) | 03:35 |
| bittin | here is the error: http://pastebin.se/198471 | 03:35 |
| _Pete_ | dont know about footballs | 03:35 |
| _Pete_ | but kendo I do | 03:35 |
| psuboy | :-) | 03:35 |
| psuboy | well, I gotta run...nice talking with you...Onewart...thanks for the great help...I really appreciate it...Pete...good luck mate! | 03:36 |
| onewart | psuboy: take care man! | 03:36 |
| _Pete_ | kendo = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Ak-YEROQA | 03:37 |
| bittin | no iam going to bed and trying to fix it when iam more non tired | 03:59 |
| Calcio | Hi.. How can I see my HD using Xubuntu with Live CD? | 04:03 |
| Calcio | I'd like see my files. | 04:05 |
| onewart | Calcio: well first you should open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" to show your current partitions | 04:08 |
| onewart | Calico: second, assuming your files are on an NTFS partition, you'll need to mount that from the command line. | 04:08 |
| onewart | Calcio: from the same terminal do "sudo mkdir /media/windows" | 04:09 |
| onewart | Calcio: followed by "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda* /media/windows" | 04:09 |
| onewart | /dev/sda* is according to the results of fdisk -l | 04:09 |
| onewart | hope that helps! | 04:09 |
| Calcio | Ok. I'm going try | 04:10 |
| Calcio | the command mount -t returned error. | 04:16 |
| onewart | what's the output of "fdisk -l"? | 04:20 |
| Calcio | /dev/sda1 * NTFS; /dev/sda2 win95 LBA; /dev/sda5 NTFS; | 04:25 |
| onewart | ok | 04:26 |
| onewart | "sudo mkdir /media/windows1" | 04:26 |
| onewart | "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows1" | 04:26 |
| onewart | you could do the same for /dev/sda5 | 04:27 |
| onewart | but with another directory, of course! | 04:27 |
| Calcio | I need do it, to see my files through xubuntu on Win? | 04:29 |
| onewart | ubuntu's live CD offers an easier way to see your files on windows | 04:33 |
| onewart | without all the command-line stuff | 04:33 |
| onewart | however, after you mount the partition in the command line, it is accessible through the Thunar file manager... | 04:34 |
| Calcio | How do it without the command-line? | 04:36 |
| onewart | if you're considering using linux, you should familiarize yourself with the command-line operations | 04:37 |
| onewart | i personally don't know of a way to mount a windows partition in xubuntu without running those 2 lines of commands | 04:37 |
| Calcio | Ok I try it again! | 04:38 |
| Calcio | sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows1 ..Does have a space beetwin sda1 and /media? | 04:41 |
| crazygir | when you create a tun/tap interface associated with a nic, is that device then dedicated to this tun/tap device? | 04:42 |
| Calcio | I do It... And Now? | 04:44 |
| onewart | no open up Thunar | 04:46 |
| onewart | file manager | 04:46 |
| Calcio | In te Manager File I see the folder Windows and Windows1, however I don't see my files of Windows 2000 | 04:46 |
| Calcio | blz | 04:47 |
| wolfgang | join #unetbootin | 07:33 |
| wolfgang | grrr | 07:33 |
| wolfgang | sorry | 07:33 |
| wolfgang | anyone got this program working on xubuntu? | 07:34 |
| wolfgang | unetbootin on xubuntu it wont create the urb bootable correctly | 08:04 |
| Adola | Hi! How do you leave a message for someone via terminal? | 09:26 |
| SiDi | wall | 09:35 |
| SiDi | or write <username> | 09:35 |
| _Pete_ | or cat /dev/pts* | 09:36 |
| Adola | Thansk :) | 09:42 |
| Adola | How does the user recieve them? | 09:42 |
| TheSheep | they pop up on their terminal wherever the cursor currently is | 09:42 |
| TheSheep | usually mangling whatever there was before | 09:42 |
| TheSheep | better send an e-mail | 09:43 |
| Adola | Hehehe | 09:43 |
| Adola | I'm having an SSH war. | 09:43 |
| Adola | He's ssh'd into me, and I him. | 09:43 |
| TheSheep | 'talk username' can be useful | 09:43 |
| TheSheep | it's a simple chat client | 09:44 |
| Adola | I'm waiting for him to make my account. | 09:44 |
| Adola | This should be funneh :P | 09:44 |
| Adola | TheSheep: How does he add users? | 09:47 |
| Adola | Using CLI? | 09:47 |
| TheSheep | man useradd | 09:47 |
| Adola | Thanks | 09:48 |
| _Pete_ | Adola: add me too | 09:57 |
| _Pete_ | with root access | 09:58 |
| Adola | _Pete_: Heheheh :P | 09:58 |
| Adola | I'm going to try "write" and "talk" Any thing else to bug him? | 09:59 |
| Adola | (He's portforwarding right now) | 09:59 |
| _Pete_ | dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/<hisdrivr> | 10:00 |
| _Pete_ | that will bug pretty much | 10:01 |
| Adola | Well, "write" only works if it's enabled, and "talk" only works if something's installed. | 10:01 |
| Adola | _Pete_: What does that do? | 10:02 |
| _Pete_ | erase the disk being on of= | 10:02 |
| Adola | Oh dear....I don't think that's acceptable! | 10:03 |
| wolfgang | you wahts happening pete | 10:03 |
| TheSheep | _Pete_: please don't give dangerous advice | 10:06 |
| _Pete_ | TheSheep: good point | 10:35 |
| _Pete_ | but you learn n | 10:35 |
| _Pete_ | by doing | 10:36 |
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| === Guest96523 is now known as Adola | ||
| ubuntuuser1 | hi. What's the difference between /etc/xdg/xfce and /etc/xdg/xubuntu ? | 12:26 |
| ubuntuuser1 | Hi. Does anyone know the difference between /etc/xdg/xfce and /etc/xdg/xubuntu? | 12:33 |
| ubuntuuser1 | Hi. Does anyone know the difference between /etc/xdg/xfce and /etc/xdg/xubuntu? What does xfce on a xubuntu-machine with them? | 12:49 |
| TheSheep | !repeat | 12:49 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. | 12:49 |
| knome | ubottu, xubuntu is meant to be used with xubuntu. | 13:04 |
| knome | ups. | 13:04 |
| knome | ubuntuuser1, ^ | 13:05 |
| ubuntuuser1 | what do you mean? | 13:05 |
| knome | you asked the difference between /et/xdg/blah | 13:06 |
| ubuntuuser1 | well? | 13:06 |
| knome | and the answer is that the xubuntu one is meant to be used with xubuntu. | 13:06 |
| knome | the xfce one is a quite basic one | 13:07 |
| ubuntuuser1 | but what does it mean | 13:08 |
| ubuntuuser1 | xfce starts and gets its data from /etc/xdg/xfce ? | 13:08 |
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| ubuntuuser1 | or from /etc/xdg/xubuntu ? | 13:09 |
| knome | if you are that interested, you probably should open the files in your text editor | 13:09 |
| ubuntuuser1 | if done it | 13:09 |
| ubuntuuser1 | i've done it | 13:09 |
| knome | i think they are both used, xfce for xfce settings and xubuntu to bring custom settings | 13:10 |
| knome | ubuntuuser1, *WHAT* are you trying to achieve here, may i ask? | 13:10 |
| ubuntuuser1 | i tried to lock some preferences for a user by using the XfconfBackendPerchannelXml. but i didn't know whether to edit the files in /etc/xdg/xubuntu or those in /etc/xdg/xfce . | 13:11 |
| knome | i'd say edit the files in xubuntu, if you need to | 13:11 |
| ubuntuuser1 | why "if you need to" ? | 13:12 |
| ubuntuuser1 | is there another way? | 13:12 |
| ubuntuuser1 | for example the xfce-project says that for kios-mode you have to edit those files in /etc/xdg/xfce ... | 13:13 |
| knome | adding it to either the places is not going to break your pc up. | 13:14 |
| knome | if it doesn't work, you can remove the extra configuration lines. | 13:14 |
| knome | happy? | 13:14 |
| === Guest59619 is now known as Nathan | ||
| ubuntuuser1 | well - not really | 13:14 |
| ubuntuuser1 | i wanted to understand how the system works .... | 13:14 |
| === Nathan is now known as NvdH | ||
| ubuntuuser1 | what did you mean with custom settings? something like default settings? settings that are set when a new user is created? | 13:16 |
| knome | yes. | 13:18 |
| ubuntuuser1 | ok and then they will be copied in the user-profile-folder and the settings that are "more powerfull" are located in /etc/xdg/xfce ? | 13:19 |
| ubuntuuser1 | is there no documentation of that? | 13:23 |
| ubuntuuser1 | i looked around but found nothing... | 13:24 |
| matthijs | hi, i have a wireless internet card of linksys inserted into my laptop, how can i install its drivers? | 13:33 |
| TheSheep | matthijs: you shouldn't need to install anything | 13:33 |
| TheSheep | matthijs: if it's supported, it should work | 13:34 |
| matthijs | i have a linksys WPC300N V2 | 13:34 |
| matthijs | how can i see if it is supported? | 13:34 |
| matthijs | i just inserted it, after an install of xubuntu | 13:35 |
| matthijs | TheSheep, also i just installed xubuntu, from the mini iso and then the xubuntu-desktop install, and sound doesnt seem to work | 13:37 |
| === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo | ||
| crazygir | when you've setup a /dev/net/tun device, then configure tun0.. do you have to configure a second /dev/net/tunX device to have tun1, or does the tun module handle that? | 15:13 |
| Raggs | is it possible to make the main panel in xfce transparent/ | 15:56 |
| SiDi_ | Raggs: if you enabled the compositor transparency yes | 16:05 |
| SiDi_ | Apps -> params -> Window tweaks | 16:05 |
| SiDi_ | Last tab | 16:05 |
| SiDi_ | enable it, then right click a panel -> properties -> Transparency | 16:05 |
| Raggs | that also makes the icons on the panel transparent | 16:06 |
| Raggs | thanks for the help SiDi_ gotta run | 16:11 |
| === Kangarooo1 is now known as Kangarooo | ||
| mikubuntu | this seems to be a fairly recent phenomenom; lately when i click on a power point presentation, instead of offering to open with open office or save file, all i get is the offer to save the file. what gives? | 16:55 |
| mikubuntu | http://imagebin.org/55019 | 17:02 |
| muse | mikubuntu: that will be browser related. Check your browser preferences/settings, locate and configure file extension handling. | 17:12 |
| mikubuntu | tried, but doesn't address the filetype apparently (firefox apps prefs) | 17:14 |
| muse | can you not add a new filetype? | 17:14 |
| muse | mikubuntu: looks like this could be a problem with that particular file not having the correct MIME in the HTTP response. | 17:31 |
| muse | try another pps not from that site | 17:31 |
| mikubuntu | muse, ok, will have to wait til one comes in again, i delete them all | 17:55 |
| CRM | Pidgin keeps wanting me to accept new certificates: "nexus.passport.com". Is it safe to let Pidgin go ahead ? | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | CRM: depends on what you are doing | 18:28 |
| CRM | TheSheep: Just started it one day, and it asked me to accept the new certificate, and I did yesterday, but today it's asking again. | 18:43 |
| TheSheep | what are you connecting with? | 18:43 |
| CRM | Pidgin, msn | 18:44 |
| Oysterboy | Hey there | 19:31 |
| Oysterboy | would this be the best channel for netbook remix questions? | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca__ | no | 19:32 |
| Oysterboy | then which one? | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca__ | I am looking | 19:32 |
| Oysterboy | thanks | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca__ | still looking | 19:36 |
| Oysterboy | thanks, couldnt find one specifically for the remix, figured xubuntu was the closest to it | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca__ | I'm thinking #ubuntu-ports | 19:37 |
| Oysterboy | ok | 19:38 |
| Oysterboy | ill try it out | 19:38 |
| Oysterboy | thanks | 19:38 |
| charlie-tca__ | Or ask the question and see if we can answer it | 19:38 |
| Oysterboy | im havin an issue with booting it from a USB | 19:39 |
| Oysterboy | just gives me "Boot Error" | 19:39 |
| Oysterboy | tried other distros of Ubuntu with this machine and boots fine from a usb | 19:39 |
| Kangarooo | hello does brightside works in xubuntu? I installed but can't find where to manage its options.. | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca__ | I didn't think we needed it anymore... let me see | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca__ | we shouldn't. There is an option in Applications -> Settings -> Window Manager now to do that | 19:58 |
| Kangarooo | http://thedailyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/01/brightside-screen-corner-actions-and.html I installed sudo apt-get install brightside but can't modify its option.. | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca__ | but, back to the original question. I don't know, since I quit using it with Jaunty | 19:58 |
| Kangarooo | I want to use brightside on xubuntu :( | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca__ | It should work. try in a terminal "brightside --help" and see if it comes up | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca__ | As I recall, it used to be in System. Perhaps gnome no longer lets it have the menu entry, but you should be able to do it in terminal | 20:01 |
| Kangarooo | charlie-tca__: well a new menu entry didn't made brightside installation | 20:02 |
| charlie-tca__ | Is there an entry in /usr/share/applications ? | 20:24 |
| === ronnn_o is now known as ron_o | ||
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