| sebas | http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/index.php | 00:15 |
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| sebas | please fill in, all if possible | 00:15 |
| sebas | http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/index.php?sid=94926&lang=en this one actually | 00:16 |
| ryanakca | yuriy: Please see my comments on bug 389245 | 02:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 389245 in kubuntu-website "[wiki] top title doesn't have separators and is redundant" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/389245 | 02:27 |
| * Aranel I'm back =) | 02:41 | |
| tsimpson | eww, amsg is evil | 02:42 |
| ryanakca | Hmmm... only got spammed to 16 channels ;) | 02:43 |
| Aranel | oops :) | 02:45 |
| tsimpson | I see you have been berated in several channels, so I'll forgive you ;) | 02:45 |
| Aranel | yeah, surely i had enough punishment :) | 02:46 |
| DaskreeCH | Bad Aranel! Bad!! | 02:53 |
| Aranel | just ignore it =P | 02:54 |
| DaskreeCH | I would but I have quassel so it's a long banner on the bottom of the screen | 02:55 |
| Aranel | :( sorry about it. | 02:55 |
| Aranel | anyway, i got rid of it :) | 02:55 |
| ScottK | Do we have the Akonadi/CouchDB agent packaged yet? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/pim/akonadi/desktop-couch/ | 03:17 |
| ScottK | If someone packages it, feel free to ping me for reviews. | 03:17 |
| maco | did kmail get faster? | 03:18 |
| maco | that imap sync seemed to take about half the usual time | 03:18 |
| DaskreeCH | Why are we shipping with Highlight window? | 03:19 |
| DaskreeCH | Oh has Kopete been backported yet? | 03:48 |
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| EagleScreen | Hello | 05:45 |
| EagleScreen | I have seen that Arora is the new web browser by default in Kubuntu. I have a question: why is used Arora and not Konqueror with Webkit engine? | 05:48 |
| ScottK | There is no Konqueror with Webkit yet. | 05:49 |
| EagleScreen | then what is 'webkitkde' package? | 05:51 |
| EagleScreen | "webkit KPart for Konqueror" | 05:51 |
| ScottK | I don't think it's well integrated yet. | 05:53 |
| ScottK | It's a work in progress. | 05:53 |
| EagleScreen | any news about Qt version of Firefox? | 05:54 |
| ScottK | Dead | 05:54 |
| DaskreeCH | Alive | 05:55 |
| EagleScreen | Is not Nokia interested in it yet? | 05:55 |
| * ScottK isn't aware of anyone working on it. | 05:55 | |
| DaskreeCH | It's been moved to the core Mozila repos | 05:55 |
| DaskreeCH | it's had commits to it 3 days ago last I checked | 05:56 |
| DaskreeCH | Which was three days ago | 05:56 |
| EagleScreen | many users think that Qt version of Firefox whould be the best solution for Kubuntu | 05:56 |
| ScottK | DaskreeCH: Interesting. | 05:56 |
| DaskreeCH | EagleScreen: Tell them to mail Mozilla | 05:57 |
| DaskreeCH | I think the best solution would be solid choices | 05:58 |
| ScottK | So far we've got none great to pick from. | 05:58 |
| EagleScreen | okay, I understand that Mozilla upstream must work in it, but Kubuntu developpers should pay much atention to Firefox-Qt development | 05:59 |
| EagleScreen | by the momment, good luck with Arora | 06:00 |
| * hsitter notes that webkit is currently in the much better support position due to the amount of corporate backup | 08:44 | |
| hsitter | apple, google, OHA, nokia | 08:44 |
| hsitter | if chromium was any more mature we could port it to Qt and use that as browser :D | 08:51 |
| hsitter | certainly would give our reliability in these things quite a boost | 08:51 |
| Ke | and you wouldn't have to implement independent spyware for KDE | 08:52 |
| hsitter | Ke: well, patched-chromium then | 08:53 |
| Ke | =o) | 08:54 |
| hsitter | besides, firefox is spying as much I have been told :P | 08:54 |
| hsitter | spyware all over \o/ | 08:54 |
| Ke | yes | 08:54 |
| Ke | would be nice to even know, what are they spying on | 08:55 |
| hsitter | Ke: general user interaction I suppose | 08:56 |
| hsitter | which, anonymized properly, makes a lot of sense IMHO | 08:57 |
| Ke | well still user should have right to decide | 08:57 |
| hsitter | agreed | 08:58 |
| hsitter | it's not easy though: a) you can't ask the user, because you will confuse the average user b) you can't turn it on by default, otherwise people like the ones in kubuntu-devel will bitch about you c) you have to turn it on by default to make sense | 08:59 |
| Ke | yes | 08:59 |
| hsitter | these kind of data are only useful if you have exposure from both, the average user as well as users with advanced background | 08:59 |
| hsitter | if you turn off by default, some of the latter "might" turn it on to help, but then you are missing out on the average user again | 09:00 |
| Ke | still I guess I care more about protecting personal files than my browsing profile | 09:00 |
| Ke | even security point of view, I would like to know anything outside the browser path is protected | 09:01 |
| hsitter | well, the talkhome data should never contain any important information | 09:02 |
| hsitter | general usage is much more important anyway ... like how often does the search bar get used, or another specific feature | 09:03 |
| hsitter | what is the most popular search engine, and how often does a user do a web search | 09:03 |
| * hsitter is wondering if clamwin is any good | 09:06 | |
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| hsitter | Oo | 09:07 |
| hsitter | no google * beta :| | 09:07 |
| hsitter | Riddell: community stuff on the todo are all done I suppse? | 09:28 |
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| Riddell | hsitter: yes | 10:10 |
| * hsitter is wondering why plasma-mid always crashes on kde-nightly | 10:12 | |
| hsitter | did I ever metion that moinmoin is quite the PITA for editing? | 10:14 |
| hsitter | way too much scrolling | 10:14 |
| hsitter | Riddell: did we hear back from quassel and arora devs? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | hsitter: quassel yes, see mailing list | 10:15 |
| Riddell | arora a general agreement from them on irc | 10:15 |
| hsitter | Riddell: I suppose it can be marked done? | 10:16 |
| hsitter | any notes for them? | 10:16 |
| Riddell | read the e-mails and decide I guess | 10:17 |
| hsitter | btw, kde4libs holds a fix that helps with getting filesharing in shape again :P | 10:17 |
| hsitter | Tm_T: did you tell icefox about the l10n issue in arora? | 10:17 |
| hsitter | Riddell: well, do we stick with quassel or not | 10:17 |
| * hsitter notes that we shouldn't switch software that often, especially since we have no migrations in place | 10:18 | |
| hsitter | konqueror => arora means loss of all cookies and need of manual bookmark import | 10:18 |
| hsitter | not to mention passwords | 10:18 |
| hsitter | ryanakca: I really think kubuntu-website needs a wiki page linking to the launchpad code, explain how the general process works (implementation => testing => submit for review by sysadmins...) | 10:21 |
| Riddell | hsitter: stick with quassel for now and make a decision around beta time | 10:24 |
| hsitter | pretty late :P | 10:24 |
| * hsitter updates todo | 10:24 | |
| hsitter | Riddell: I think kde-icons-oxygen should be renamed | 10:36 |
| hsitter | to reflect it's live in kdesupport and general implementation of the xdg icon naming spec rather than KDE | 10:36 |
| hsitter | oxygen-icon-theme | 10:37 |
| hsitter | which is in line with tango-icon-theme and human-icon-theme and hicolor-icon-theme | 10:37 |
| kwwii | I agree | 10:39 |
| dpm | hsitter: after talking to ScottK, I thought it might be a good idea to put the current work on improving translations to the Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic page. I'm going to put yourself, arne and I as 'Assigned to', are you ok with that? | 10:42 |
| hsitter | dpm: sure :) | 10:43 |
| dpm | hsitter: ok, cool. Done -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic#Translations | 10:45 |
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| rgreening | I'm an uncle.. my sister had a baby boy... 11lb 13 oz... :) | 14:33 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: congratulations | 14:34 |
| rgreening | ty | 14:34 |
| * rgreening hands cigars to everyone | 14:34 | |
| vorian | holy crap! that's a huge baby | 14:35 |
| rgreening | hehe.. yep. the baby is very tall... | 14:36 |
| rgreening | my sister is 6' and her husband is 6'6" | 14:36 |
| vorian | that makes sense | 14:36 |
| rgreening | I expect the baby to be a basketball player :) | 14:37 |
| vorian | we can only hope :) | 14:37 |
| rgreening | or extremely uncoordinated... one or the other | 14:37 |
| rgreening | :P | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Football lineman then | 14:37 |
| rgreening | lol | 14:37 |
| vorian | ha | 14:37 |
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| vorian_ | dfasg | 15:24 |
| === vorian_ is now known as vorian | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: When you updated https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph it appears you just uploaded the image and not the revised txt file. Without the source it's a bit hard for the rest of us to maintain it .... | 15:54 |
| vorian | ScottK: are you adding pim-runtime? | 15:56 |
| ScottK | vorian: I was hoping to. | 15:56 |
| ScottK | Lacking the current source, I'm not. | 15:57 |
| vorian | ya, silly Riddell :P | 15:57 |
| vorian | ~ninjas | 15:57 |
| kubotu | apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, nixternal, a|wen and vorian ... to the Batcave! | 15:57 |
| ScottK | vorian: Someone needs to update that for hsitter's new nick | 15:58 |
| vorian | i think only hsitter can uplate it | 15:58 |
| hsitter | script add -f ninjas m.reply "{apachelogger OR hsitter}, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, nixternal, a|wen and vorian ... to the Batcave!" | 15:58 |
| hsitter | kubotu: script add -f ninjas m.reply "{apachelogger OR hsitter}, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, nixternal, a|wen and vorian ... to the Batcave!" | 15:58 |
| kubotu | okay | 15:58 |
| hsitter | ninjas | 15:58 |
| hsitter | kubotu: ninjas | 15:59 |
| kubotu | {apachelogger OR hsitter}, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, nixternal, a|wen and vorian ... to the Batcave! | 15:59 |
| vorian | fancy | 15:59 |
| * hsitter notes that firefox disables one's command emitter | 15:59 | |
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| * ScottK marks down sparc as another arch with KDE fully built. | 17:14 | |
| Tm_T | hrrr | 17:14 |
| Tm_T | got any sparK from it? | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Not me. No hardware. | 17:15 |
| rgreening | Can anyone verify if quassel causes high CPU usage for plasma after a couple of hours running? | 17:18 |
| rgreening | My plasma goes to 99-100%... kill quassel goes back to normal. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Which release? | 17:18 |
| rgreening | using KDE 4.3 RC1 under karmic quassel 0.4.2 | 17:19 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: no problems here | 17:19 |
| ScottK | On Jaunty nspluginviewer is generally the culprit for high CPU. No Karmic here, sorry. | 17:19 |
| neversfelde | and same setup | 17:19 |
| maco | rgreening, lots of notifications in the meantime? | 17:19 |
| rgreening | nope maco | 17:20 |
| maco | oh | 17:20 |
| maco | ScottK, im getting the ns thing too | 17:20 |
| rgreening | neversfelde: hmm... do you use Kmain/Kontack... maybe that was the issue. I shut it down before quassel.. but it didn't seem to help. | 17:20 |
| ScottK | That's Firefox related. | 17:20 |
| * ScottK hands rgreening an 'l' | 17:21 | |
| rgreening | and a t | 17:21 |
| rgreening | cause I kant spel | 17:21 |
| neversfelde | rgreening: yes, I use it :) | 17:21 |
| rgreening | hmm... what could be causing my CPU for plasma-desktop to shoot up then... | 17:21 |
| rgreening | Im going to try and not run kmail and see if it happens or not | 17:22 |
| maco | oh! that was mail? | 17:22 |
| neversfelde | I had some problems with playwolf and the official kde plasmoid for amarok, had a slow desktop while using them | 17:22 |
| neversfelde | I killed the config files for plasma and the problem is gone | 17:23 |
| rgreening | there's something definately running amuck | 17:23 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I have 3 HP DL380G6's arrive... gonna make a vmware ESX cluster and run ubuntu server vm's... :) | 17:24 |
| rgreening | yum | 17:24 |
| ScottK | Sounds fun. | 17:24 |
| rgreening | its all new to me... so lots of learning | 17:25 |
| ScottK | rgreening: You could work on Kolab integration and we could have Kubuntu Server Edition for Karmic +1. | 17:25 |
| * ScottK is not entirely kidding, btw. | 17:25 | |
| rgreening | heh | 17:26 |
| ScottK | I think there's some potential market utility in a Kubuntu* groupware solution. | 17:26 |
| rgreening | ScottK: if you want to help direct me... I can look at it. I'll have vm's to play with... | 17:27 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Install Kolab, notice Debian's Kolab packages are out of date and suck and then work from there. | 17:27 |
| rgreening | lol | 17:27 |
| rgreening | bwahahah | 17:27 |
| ScottK | It's been some time since I looked, but that's how it looked last time I checked. | 17:28 |
| ScottK | rgreening: How are we doing about getting USB creator uploaded? | 17:28 |
| rgreening | one good thing about setting up the cluster, is I'll be able to have vm's for various ubuntu release to test/playwith... | 17:28 |
| rgreening | ScottK: waiting on evand to finish the devicekit-disks back-end (porting from HAL). The HAL back-end is very tempermental and buggy as sin. | 17:29 |
| ScottK | rgreening: It'd be really good to have this before Alpha 3 .... | 17:30 |
| rgreening | evand has some stuff in a seperate branch... once he finishes, he'll merge it (maybe later this week or early next week... hopefully. | 17:30 |
| rgreening | when is a3 | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Two weeks I think. | 17:30 |
| ScottK | So that works | 17:30 |
| ScottK | rgreening: That's also when we need your "Here's how you install Kubuntu Netbook Edition" stuff. | 17:30 |
| rgreening | ok.. I'll push him :) | 17:30 |
| ScottK | We need it for the ISO QA tracker procedures. | 17:31 |
| rgreening | ScottK: hmm... I'll try and make some time... | 17:31 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Take a look at the tests in the ISO tracker now and try to mimic the level of detail there (although since USB stuff is different you may need a little extra detail). | 17:32 |
| rgreening | ScottK, neversfelde: yeah, had my CPU skyrocket again... plasma-desktop showed it as the culprit, but I killed the nsplugin viewer. it returned to normal. that's not good! | 17:32 |
| rgreening | ScottK: whats thew link for that again (so I have it for ref). | 17:33 |
| * ScottK looks around for it. | 17:34 | |
| ScottK | rgreening: I found http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/CaseAndPlanGuidelines and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction - due to not testing Kubuntu stuff right now, I couldn't find the link to the exact Kubuntu install procedure. | 17:43 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Maybe davmor2 knows. | 17:43 |
| harolddong | is this the place to ask about issues related to the 4.3 rc or is that in #kubuntu? | 17:46 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: that's cause I'm only on short term contracts and by the time I've done the re-rights I run out of time for the other desktops | 17:58 |
| ScottK | davmor2: No issue, just looking for the link to the current Kubuntu test procedures so rgreening can write the USB stick install bits. | 17:59 |
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| harolddong | is akonadi broken in the rc? | 18:16 |
| neversfelde | no | 18:16 |
| neversfelde | not that I know, because it works here. Install kubuntu-desktop | 18:17 |
| dajomu | Got one papercut (maybe it is one already existing) Ability to change shortcut on krunner. instead of alt+F2 I would prefer alt+space | 18:19 |
| harolddong | kubuntu-desktop is already installed. since installing the rc kaddressbook is blank, there is no akonadi app in the menu and mailody says its not wotking correctly | 18:20 |
| maco | harolddong, is akonadi installed? | 18:21 |
| harolddong | all of the akonadi packages are installed except the debug one | 18:21 |
| harolddong | also in koete the metacontacts arent metacontacts anymore..I guess because they are connected to the addressbook | 18:22 |
| * maco moves her akonadi further away from harolddong | 18:22 | |
| maco | dont touch! | 18:23 |
| harolddong | at first I th9ought that kaddressbook just got wiped out somehow which would have sucked but now I think its just that the akonadi install in tweaked somehow? | 18:23 |
| harolddong | where is the addressbook data actually saved? | 18:24 |
| ScottK | In akonadi | 18:24 |
| ScottK | Or rather it's mysql database | 18:24 |
| * ScottK notes KDE is now fully built on ia64. Thanks to the overdue death of hppa that just leaves armel. | 18:24 | |
| harolddong | where is the database? | 18:25 |
| harolddong | I'm going to try just backing up settings and deleting the .kde folder | 18:26 |
| davmor2 | ScottK: rgreening: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install I've added usb install to the bottom. Just click on the link and add the page :) hope that helps | 19:17 |
| ScottK | davmor2: Cool. Thanks. | 19:18 |
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| vorian | is kalternatives going default? | 21:11 |
| vorian | or main, rather | 21:12 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 21:19 |
| ScottK | vorian: I don't think it's been discussed. | 21:21 |
| Riddell | _Groo_! | 21:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Hey there. | 21:34 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: the Amarok people were comlaining about needing liblastfm so I finished it off | 21:34 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: is sebr or markey or leo anywhere near you? | 21:34 |
| * Nightrose hugs Riddell for packaging it | 21:34 | |
| Riddell | Nightrose: not currently, they're probably applying liberal after-sun just now | 21:34 |
| Nightrose | haha | 21:35 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: although there's a new KDE release candidate should you be in a packaging mood | 21:35 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: if you don't mind tell seb or leo to ping me tomorrow please | 21:35 |
| Riddell | ScottK: sparc goodness is your doing? | 21:36 |
| Nightrose | need to talk about gsoc with them | 21:36 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: but didnt rc1 out yet in experimental? | 21:36 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: they just released RC 2 | 21:36 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ia64 too. | 21:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: super, congratulations | 21:36 |
| Riddell | hmm, I seem to have gained ops here too | 21:36 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: thanks for finishing it.. i didnt had the time the last weeks, im sorry :( my company just finished a contract for 250 000 users and im running to complete the architecture | 21:36 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: nice :) | 21:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: well im sucessfully running builds for amarok 2.2... smooth out the bugs | 21:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: packaging bugs i mean | 21:37 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: good luck with that | 21:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: is kdebindings building yet? | 21:38 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: well amarok 2.2 svn is building and working just fine :) | 21:38 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: yes, except for pesky arm https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kdebindings/4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1 | 21:39 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: who cares about arm? ;) just kidding | 21:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: NCommander has a proposal to infinity to fix armel. | 21:39 |
| _Groo_ | ho btw ppl, bug radeon ppl! they break kwin3d with latest dri2/kms (which im testing, packaging and doing bug report) and they dont care enough!!! :D | 21:40 |
| Tm_T | _Groo_: I care, thus it's highly important to us all (;) | 21:40 |
| ScottK | The problem was that lzma compression was timing out on the buildds | 21:40 |
| Riddell | Monika|K: new KDE RC release if you're in a packaging mood :) | 22:00 |
| Monika|K | hm, no time for today and the next two days, got to read/correct a friend's magister thesis ... and I haven't packaged anything, yet | 22:02 |
| ScottK | nomodeset FTW. | 22:04 |
| Zorael | So it'll be a while before rc2 hits the kubuntu ppa? | 22:10 |
| vorian | Zorael: when it's ready | 22:11 |
| Riddell | they didn't give any advance notice to packagers | 22:11 |
| ScottK | If anyone sees Tonio around, please give hiim a smack for me. He's late on his netbook default settings and not that I have one, it's really annoying me... | 22:14 |
| Riddell | claydoh: do you know this guy? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199611 | 22:17 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 199611 in feeds "Information about http://hanswchen wordpress com" [Normal,New] | 22:17 |
| claydoh | Riddell: no, he looks to be from the KDE forums, his nick sounds familiar. odd bug report tho :) | 22:20 |
| claydoh | Riddell : I haven't visited KDE's forums too much lately | 22:27 |
| Riddell | claydoh: I'm trying just asking him directly | 22:28 |
| claydoh | Riddell: ask him what? | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Install in the Dell mini 10v went swimmingly after I disabled KMS. No wifi though. I'll work on that later. Suggestions welcome. | 22:30 |
| neversfelde | Monika|K: pbuider can run besides :) | 22:30 |
| Riddell | claydoh: to prove his credentials | 22:31 |
| claydoh | Riddell: ahh, should have seen that, my work is distractng me ;) | 22:33 |
| Monika|K | neversfelde if I had already packaged something before | 22:34 |
| neversfelde | Monika|K: I am sure you would not have a problem with this process :) | 22:34 |
| _Groo_ | ppl could anyone confirm if brasero/k3b 2.0 is borken with latest policykit 0.9.2 and policykit-kde 0.9.2? it only allows to use the burner when using root | 23:15 |
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| _Groo_ | is anyone habing this problem? | 23:22 |
| * Riddell at GCDS and not able to test | 23:23 | |
| hsitter | hum | 23:27 |
| hsitter | I need to make the rosetta templates list parser a library :D | 23:27 |
| hsitter | and I need to make it calculate an average age of template to get an appropriate removability | 23:28 |
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