[00:00] <Aizawa> i see
[00:00] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: so they're incomplete and far from fully stable
[00:00] <phh> rysiek|pl: there is absolutely no need for reverse engineering
[00:00] <phh> adobe gives docs
[00:00] <rysiek|pl> oh?
[00:00] <phh> yup
[00:00] <rysiek|pl> didn't know that
[00:00] <phh> if gnash/swfdec and co sucks, it's just because it's a hard thing to do
[00:00] <dwidmann> but it should be an awfully good bandaid :)
[00:00] <dwidmann> Aizawa: doesn't look like a full port, looks like it uses wine
[00:00] <rysiek|pl> anywhoo, I loathe flash in any form
[00:00] <dwidmann> They opened the dox on a bunch of stuff a year or so back
[00:01] <phh> dwidmann: ?!?
[00:01] <AlexZion> so , it means ..., using firefox I can't use  flash fully compatible pages ?
[00:01] <phh> it IS a full port
[00:01] <AlexZion> that's incredible ...
[00:01] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: you can, by using Adobe's binary plugin
[00:01] <AlexZion> I never had this problem in windows and I have this problem in Linux .. :O
[00:01] <phh> AlexZion: give flashblock a try ...
[00:01] <dwidmann> phh: I read about it back when it happened, so I forget the details and links and such
[00:01] <dwidmann> phh: is it?
[00:01] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: humm... I guess Adobe puts much more effort in the windoze version, then
[00:02] <phh> dwidmann: the only thing google ever released as a wine hack is picasa iirc
[00:02] <AlexZion> and the point is ...., now as well , I have the problem in firefox , but opera worksgreat , konqueror as well, arora as well ...so it's just firefox problem ....
[00:02]  * rysiek|pl hopes that the <video> tag and <canvas> goodies will rid Teh Intertubes of the flash trainwreck
[00:02] <AlexZion> and I'm a bit tired to have problem with firefox ...
[00:02] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: then use konqueror or opera or whatever
[00:03] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: or midori, or a thousand others ;)
[00:03] <phh> just don't use anything related to mozilla corp :p
[00:03] <dwidmann> phh: are you sure this is a full port? 36MB is pretty steep for a stripped down browser
[00:03] <AlexZion> yes of course, but how can be ...
[00:03] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: I myself was tired of Ff, but frankly, 3.5 rocks, at least for me
[00:03] <phh> dwidmann: yep i'm sure
[00:03] <AlexZion> I mean firefox is an opensource software , just like linux ...
[00:03] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: and?
[00:03] <phh> dwidmann: but it comes more or less as a static binary
[00:03] <AlexZion> it should "FLY" on it ..., instead it has a lot of problem ...
[00:04] <phh> and with a lot of stuff
[00:04] <dwidmann> phh: and I'm sure that package I just found *isn't* a port, but a wine hack, ie: /opt/cxchromium/lib/wine/*
[00:04] <phh> cxchromium ?
[00:04] <phh> what the hell is that ?
[00:04] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: well, as I have said, use whatever fits you
[00:04] <dwidmann> That's what I just found o.O
[00:04] <phh> dwidmann: that's not the good thing then :p
[00:04] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: I am happy with Ff 3.5, with occasional excursions towards Konqueror
[00:04] <dwidmann> phh: then supply me with a good link :)
[00:04] <AlexZion> firefoz would be perfect for me , if it just works .. , that's the point ...
[00:04] <phh> dwidmann: searching
[00:05] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: what version are you at?
[00:05] <AlexZion> now I'm trying the 3.5version , but is the same as before ....
[00:05] <phh> dwidmann: http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[00:05] <AlexZion> and I'm pretty sure, if I delete o rename the firefox folder , everything works .....
[00:05] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: well, I guess it depends on many factors
[00:06] <dwidmann> phh: I think I had dropped by there ... and the download was something ridiculously, terribly, unreasonably, awfully large.
[00:06] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: which firefox folder
[00:06] <AlexZion> but I can't anytime , reinstall anything ...
[00:06] <phh> dwidmann: this download is only 13.4MB
[00:06] <AlexZion> firefox profile folder
[00:06] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: try removing/disabling some extensions
[00:07] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: often an extension borks something
[00:07] <dwidmann> Wait, ah, THAT link ... I had read about a few issues with regarding it though :(
[00:07] <AlexZion> yeah , I can try , but I didn?t install any extension since few weeks , and before was ok , but after some time ...., doesn't wprks anymore ...
[00:07] <AlexZion> I mean ....
[00:07] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: or try swiftfox: http://getswiftfox.com/
[00:08] <AlexZion> I need some kind of crystal ball , to know what's going on ?
[00:08] <dwidmann> Something privacy and/or security related
[00:08]  * dwidmann hands AlexZion an 8 ball
[00:08] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: I have no idea whatsoever what are you talking about
[00:08] <phh> dwidmann: "Note: The Linux build still lacks certain privacy features, and is not appropriate for general consumer use."
[00:08] <phh> but it's no big things
[00:09] <rysiek|pl> phh: waaait... *Google*'s browser "lacks some provacy features"?
[00:09] <rysiek|pl> uhm...
[00:09] <AlexZion> so ,probably I'0m just unluky ...., but I hadthe same problem with Kubuntu 8.10 , and now with 9.04 , the sam problem ...
[00:09] <phh> rysiek|pl: yeah, no big deal :p
[00:09] <phh> rysiek|pl: it's just hum... google ? :p
[00:10] <dwidmann> rysiek|pl: the current linux build is lacking some privacy stuffs that the windows build has, that the linux build will have later
[00:10] <rysiek|pl> phh: I'd say "Thanks, Captain Obvious", and "I wouldn't touch it with a 7 feet pole"
[00:10] <phh> :-)
[00:11] <dwidmann> I wouldn't touch IE with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
[00:11] <phh> rysiek|pl: actually, when they say it "lacks" privacy features, it means that browser sends a lot more information to google servers than other builds :D
[00:11] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I guess
[00:11] <rysiek|pl> dwidmann: my ie-usage pole get's longer with every release
[00:11] <phh> rysiek|pl: when you click on the associated link they sa it
[00:12] <rysiek|pl> 6, 7, now 8 feet...
[00:12] <rysiek|pl> phh: well, you know... whatever. Google probably has my full profile anyway, but why help them more?
[00:12] <phh> rysiek|pl: because you love them ? :p
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> phh: you know, it's more of a "lova-hate" relationship
[00:14] <phh> yeah, i feel the same with it.
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> there is no better search engine, yet, but they're take on privacy gets on my nerves
[00:15] <dwidmann> Don't like that google knows everything about you and still want to use google? http://scroogle.org
[00:18] <phh> dwidmann: i trust more google than an unknown website
[00:18] <rysiek|pl> dwidmann: good one!
[00:18] <rysiek|pl> anywhoo, Tor FTW
[00:18] <AlexZion> I'mtrying swiftfox , it looks like firefox .... , and use the same adds ...
[00:18] <AlexZion> :O
[00:18] <dwidmann> I don't personally "know" either of them, and therefore don't really trust either of them either :\
[00:19] <dwidmann> AlexZion: I'm under the impression that it's a recompile of firefox, or something like that
[00:19] <rysiek|pl> AlexZion: swiftfox IS firefox, but compiled with better optimizations
[00:19] <fg56lx> How can i make KSnapshot open with the print screen button?
[00:20] <fetusbubble> good one, dwidmann
[00:20] <AlexZion> that's great ..., thanks for the advice ..., I'll give a try to it ..
[00:20] <fetusbubble> totally fell for that
[00:20] <dwidmann> :)
[00:26] <singenor> hello
[00:26] <singenor> my name is jose
[00:26] <AlexZion> ok , but in swiftfox , I have the same problem ..., maybe is the page which is write ina strange way !?!
[00:27] <dwidmann> AlexZion: seeing as swiftfox is firefox, except recompiled/rebranded, any problem you have in firefox you're going to have in swiftfox too
[00:28] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[00:29] <AlexZion> so , I have to look for something else ....
[00:29] <singenor> hello hello
[00:30] <dwidmann> Alex135: well, it's not like there aren't literally dozens of options, compounded even more by the fact that different versions of the same browser can behave very differently in some regards
[00:31] <dwidmann> grr, I meant AlexZion, not alex135 ... my tab button is cursed :(
[00:31] <AlexZion> :)
[00:32] <AlexZion> right ,I got it,but I still badly surprise to see firefox working better in Windows than Linux ...
[00:33] <dwidmann> Firefox is relatively stable, flash however, isn't.
[00:35] <dwidmann> high CPU usage, hanging, weird crashes, zombie processes, and more with web browsers can be traced back to flash ...
[00:36] <phh> dwidmann: it's still way better under windows than linux
[00:37] <dwidmann> "way better", are you sure you're not exaggerating?
[00:37] <phh> well a bit
[00:37] <phh> firefox isn't really usable under windows too
[00:45] <jeff83> !list
[00:47] <AlexZion> an other question guys...., how can I install some new windows decoration for  kubuntu
[00:47] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to use arecord to capture my soundcard output, but it sounds fuzzy and it changes volume in the recording as I change the master volume on my soundcard. Is there a way to make this better?
[00:49] <phh> Alex135: just go in systemsettings => apparency
[00:49] <AlexZion> I was quite happy with dekorator , but on the 4.3 version , doesn't looks so good , i mean , on the corner of the windows you can see some horrible white space ...
[00:49] <AlexZion> phh: I knowwhere I can change , but I didn't find anything to install some new theme ....
[00:50] <phh> there are already themes for windows
[00:50] <phh> but you can look at kde-look.org
[00:51] <AlexZion> I know, I was looking there , but even if I can download some theme , I don't know how to use it ..
[00:51] <phh> it must be says on the page
[00:51] <phh> you have to extract it somewhere in ~/.kde
[00:51] <phh> but i don't remember where exactly
[00:54] <AlexZion> anyway , there aren't so much theme for kde 4 ...
[00:55] <AlexZion> I was really happy with dekorator , but now , I have to wait the "complete implementation" in Kde 4.3 I guess ...
[00:56] <phh> AlexZion: there are styles packaged into kubuntu also, try to find it
[00:56] <AlexZion> phh: however ..., thaks a lot for the support
[00:56] <phh> !find kde-style
[00:56] <phh> only two ? ok.
[00:56] <phh> !find kwin-style
[00:56] <AlexZion> you mean using the package manager , right ?
[00:56] <phh> yup
[00:57] <phh> but there isn't many themes... only two ...
[00:57] <AlexZion> yeah , I saw , and are both installed :)
[00:58] <phh> (just for the troll, on mandriva 6themes are available)
[00:58] <AlexZion> I'ma graphic designer,should I try to understand how to build a theme and than make my own theme to share .. :9
[01:05] <AlexZion> but I had some problem with the system so I tried to remove compiz , and now it goes much better , except for the decorator :D
[01:06] <phh_> what the hell happened
[01:06] <AlexZion> I don't know mate , what's happen ?
[01:07] <AlexZion> have you fall down !?! :)
[01:07] <AlexZion> ops , probably is "felt down"...
[01:07] <AlexZion> forgive me, but my english isn't so perfect .. :D
[01:09] <AlexZion> phh: tell me mate , where do you come from ?, just for curiosity ...
[01:09] <phh> france
[01:10] <AlexZion> ahh tu es francais ... :)
[01:10] <AlexZion> je suis Italien .. :)
[01:10] <AlexZion> I have some french friend in Paris .. :)
[01:14] <AlexZion> phh: I'm going to sleep mate, thanks a lot for your help ....
[01:14] <phh> you're welcome
[01:14] <AlexZion> and as thwy says here in Spain , que tenga buen sueño .. :)
[01:15] <AlexZion> o bon nuit ..:)
[01:28] <Guest53930> hello thee
[01:28] <Guest53930> hello there
[01:28] <MushroomKingdom> Hi
[01:28] <Guest53930> i need information  of kubuntu
[01:28] <Guest53930> hi mushroomkingdom
[01:28] <MushroomKingdom> Like what
[01:29] <Guest53930> how to install ip in my network adapter
[01:30] <Guest53930> mushroomkingdom r u there
[01:30] <MushroomKingdom> Hmmm
[01:30] <MushroomKingdom> Install an IP
[01:30] <Guest53930> yes
[01:30] <Guest53930> ip address
[01:30] <MushroomKingdom> Like, what are you trying to do? Connect to a router?
[01:31] <Guest53930> no sir, connect to a network card in kubuntu
[01:31] <Guest53930> 9.04
[01:31] <MushroomKingdom> Hm..
[01:31] <Guest53930> by the way my name is franco
[01:31] <Guest53930> i come from el salvador
[01:32] <MushroomKingdom> Usually IP's automatically assign themselves when you connect to something
[01:32] <Guest53930> no when you dont have dhcp
[01:32] <MushroomKingdom> If you have a specific IP from the card
[01:32] <Guest53930> mine is static
[01:33] <MushroomKingdom> Hmmm.. You know to be completely honest I don't do alot of work with networks so I don't have much of an idea. My mini network is dhcp enabled and I have an IP range of 99 for anyone who I allow to connect.
[01:34] <fran> franco
[01:34] <Pici> !fr
[01:34] <fran> hey mushroomkingdom r u there
[01:34] <MushroomKingdom> I'm guessing this is wireless, can Kubuntu see the device?
[01:35] <Guest92143> the thing is i cannot conect my network card
[01:35] <MushroomKingdom> Hmm
[01:35] <MushroomKingdom> Cant connect..? Software or hardware?
[01:35] <Guest92143> hey where do you come from
[01:36] <MushroomKingdom> Canada
[01:36] <Guest92143> cool yesterday your soccer team won us
[01:36] <Guest92143> 1-0
[01:37] <MushroomKingdom> Hm, interesting
[01:37] <Guest92143> so do you have any manual to use
[01:38] <MushroomKingdom> Huh? Wait what cant connect? Software or hardware?
[01:38] <Guest92143> software
[01:39] <MushroomKingdom> Kay
[01:39] <MushroomKingdom> Try this
[01:39] <MushroomKingdom> go into the Klickoff menu
[01:39] <MushroomKingdom> Applications, system, hardware drivers
[01:39] <mandingoceo> i have a problem i had to flash my mobo and now my system wont boot
[01:39] <MushroomKingdom> and see if you can install the drivers needed for it.
[01:40] <Guest92143> ok wait please
[01:40] <mandingoceo> i get an error alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/c98676 etc...  / does not exist
[01:40] <MushroomKingdom> mandingoceo; Try putting the OS back on?
[01:40] <mandingoceo> whta
[01:40] <mandingoceo> what
[01:40] <mandingoceo> all i did was to flash the mobo
[01:40] <MushroomKingdom> Hm
[01:41] <mandingoceo> that would render a reinstall ?
[01:41] <Guest92143> where do i find klickoff
[01:41] <MushroomKingdom> Kickoff*
[01:41] <MushroomKingdom> The application launcher
[01:41] <Guest92143> alt + f2
[01:42] <MushroomKingdom> And type in "Hardware Drivers"
[01:43] <edivaldo> e ai
[01:44] <Guest92143> just find wireless connection
[01:44] <Guest92143>  do you think if i connect the utp cat 5e into the computer can detect automatically
[01:45] <Guest92143> r u there
[01:46] <Guest92143> mushroomkingdom r u there
[01:46] <oxymoron> Could someone help me to find out, why locale sv_se is not supported locale while mounting an ntfs-drive?
[01:47] <Guest92143> mushroomkingdom r u still there
[01:48] <Guest92143> hey whats up
[01:49] <intok> anyone know why I can't get K3B to use more then 16 chars when I have selected 103 char limit in advanced settings? been asking for 2 hours now and nobody seems to care...
[01:50] <Guest92143> hello
[01:50] <darthanubis_jr> :-)
[01:53] <Guest92143> hello there somebody can talk to me
 I'll only talk to you if you can fix my problem
[01:55] <type0negative> :-)
[01:56] <Guest92143> is there anybody out there
[01:57] <Guest92143> intok what is your  problem we can help eachother
[02:08] <trevor__> is there a reason im having such a hard time install firefox 3.5, i am following what people post online but i keeps reinstalling firefox 3.0 somethig or other
[02:13] <decoy_> trevor__ : are you using the firefox-3.5 package?  It's in there if you have backports turned on
[02:13] <Pici> !ff35
[02:14] <trevor__> why is it reffered to shiretoko?
[02:15] <Pici> See http://is.gd/1reB3
[02:15] <decoy_> that was its alpha codename I think, the package just got updated to 3.5 final yesterday
[02:16] <Pici> Due to branding and limitations for SRUs, FF3.5 Final is called Shiretoko in Jaunty
[02:16] <trevor__> righ ton
[02:16] <beagleburt> G'day from New Zealand everyone. Using K-8.10 LTS but can NOT seem to add an old HP-Deskjet-Portable (B&W) inkjet. System does NOT detect it - it is directly connected to computer via a parallel connection. Any help with this GREATLY APPRECIATED! as I have been trying for WEEKS to get it going.
[02:31] <alexis_> hellow
[02:31] <beagleburt> G'day alexis
[02:32] <alexis_> thanks
[02:32] <alexis_> what i do in this place
[02:32] <alexis_> }?
[02:32] <alexis_> what is the utility?
[02:33] <Pici> !support
[02:33] <Pici> ^^
[02:33] <beagleburt> This is IRC = Internet Relay Chat pre-"chatroom" system
[02:34] <beagleburt> U R in #kubuntu 4 support questions - help etc
[02:35] <alexis_> :O
[02:35] <alexis_> ok
[02:35] <tsimpson> please don't do that...
[02:35] <alexis_> do what?
[02:35] <alexis_> the face?
[02:36] <tsimpson> I meant that for beagleburt
 srry what did i do wrong?
[02:36] <tsimpson> !u | beagleburt
[02:37] <tsimpson> basically, please _spell out_ words, rather than shortened versions
[02:37] <alexis_> i have a question
[02:38] <alexis_> the support can be in spanish
[02:38] <alexis_> or only in english
[02:38] <tsimpson> !es
[02:38] <alexis_> ?
[02:38] <alexis_> :O}
[02:38] <tsimpson> we have spanish support channels too, this one is english
[02:38] <alexis_> but what i do to enter in that channet
[02:39] <beagleburt> Oky-doky but i am disabled and it takes me A-G-E-S to type messages - but ok -(?!) - i will try to follow protocol - TKU - oops! -Thankyou
[02:39] <alexis_> ok thanks
[02:39] <tsimpson> alexis_: type in "/join <channel>"  for example: /join #kubuntu-es
[02:40] <tsimpson> beagleburt: if you read the reason, it's so non-english speakers can read the messages easily
[02:41]  * Aranel I'm back =)
[02:41] <beagleburt> I see. thankyou again. sorry. will try to improve.
[02:45] <nalioth> beagleburt: if nobody answers your question in here, there are many other channels to visit to seek the same info
[02:46] <beagleburt> i got told off for asking about K-8.04 in the Ubuntu channel last time i used IRC?
[02:47] <beagleburt> Nalioth: Is there a printer specific channel?
[02:47] <nalioth> beagleburt: /msg alis help
[02:48] <intok> anyone know why I can't get K3B to use more then 16 chars when I have selected 103 char limit in advanced settings? been asking for 3 hours now and nobody seems to care...
[02:48] <nalioth> beagleburt: i was thinking more of ##linux or ##hardware
[02:48] <nalioth> intok: have you asked in #k3b ?
[02:49] <intok> yep, nobody there, and nothing has happened in the chan since I posted
[02:50] <intok> which was 3 hours ago now
[02:51] <beagleburt> Nalioth: Thankyou! for /msg alis help tip!
[02:51] <the_other_lebows> hey intok i remember a thread somewhere dealing with that, let me check my bookmarks
[02:53] <nalioth> intok: you may also try ##linux
[02:54] <the_other_lebows> dang, gone, but remember it had to do with the rock ridge and joliet extensions... sorry.
[02:58] <DaskreeCH> beagleburt: You got told off for asking about 8.04? That's strange
[03:00] <beagleburt> is it? i do not use IRC much as i am disabled & typing is too slow. another time before i got told to ask about problem i was having with K-8.04 in #ubuntu !? so i am very confused
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> beagleburt: k-8.04 is Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[03:01] <beagleburt> sorry yes!
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> If so then yes #ubuntu is probably going to throw you out
[03:01] <beagleburt> yes! they told me off too!????
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> They are too busy there to care much about kubuntu users. In any case what is your problem?
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> They shoudln't have done that
[03:02] <Pici> We're not going to throw you out, but if you don't get an answer we might suggest that you ask here as well.
[03:02] <beagleburt> Using KUBUNTU-8.10 LTS but can NOT seem to add an old HP-Deskjet-Portable (B&W) inkjet. System does NOT detect it - it is directly connected to computer via a parallel connection. Any help with this GREATLY APPRECIATED! as I have been trying for WEEKS to get it going.
[03:02] <Pici> beagleburt: 8.10 is not LTS by the way.
[03:02] <DaskreeCH> beagleburt: What model HP ?
[03:03] <beagleburt> SORRY - my mistake - have just been reading about 8.10, i meant 8.04
[03:04] <beagleburt> HP-Desjet-Portable  (Black & White)
[03:05] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: sorry "Deskjet"
[03:05] <DaskreeCH> Now :-) Could you perhaps be a little more specific?
[03:05] <DaskreeCH> Hp makes a lot of Deskjet printer models
[03:06] <beagleburt> HP-Desjet-Portable  (Black & White)
[03:06] <fetusbubble> do you have a model number?
[03:07] <beagleburt> It does not have a model number! it is V-E-R-Y old!
[03:07] <beagleburt> it was working ok with Kubuntu 6.06.LTS
[03:11] <beagleburt> the manual says it was printed in September 1992
[03:12] <DaskreeCH> :-) Hmm
[03:13] <DaskreeCH> How would you get a printers model in Linux? :(
[03:13] <DaskreeCH> lshw or lspci won't work
[03:13] <DaskreeCH> Is it a USB printer?
[03:14] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: No - it is a parallel port connection but my system does not seem to detect it?
[03:15] <DaskreeCH> beagleburt: Why do you say it doesn't detect it?
[03:17] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: when i try "HPLIP" it does not detect it
[03:18] <DaskreeCH> that would be a good way
[03:18] <DaskreeCH> do you type it in caps like that?
[03:19] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: when i try SYSTEM SETTINGS > Printers ...the KDE printer wizard has Parallel/USB faded option out. I have not got the URI right yet i suspect
[03:21] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: "HPLIP" is an item in KDE MAIN MENU > System > HPLIP Toolbox
[03:24] <DaskreeCH> Ah ok
[03:25] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: I have also been trying the CUPS utility @ http://localhost:631 but there again i have had no luck
[03:26] <DaskreeCH> It didn't detect it?
[03:26] <DaskreeCH> Is the Printer on?
[03:27] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: No. it didn't detect it. YES! it is on!do you know how i can detect my parallel port?
[03:30] <DaskreeCH> Yes but you shouldn't have to.
[03:31] <alexsandro> someone from Brazil?
[03:32] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: i have tried "Puppy Linux" & i was able to set up the Printer ok with that & it printed a test page ok but i discovered that it was using a later version than my desktop Kubuntu 8.04 version of CUPS
[03:33] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: i have downloaded the same version of CUPS but i do not know how to "Compile" - (?) it???
[03:35] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH:i have googled for the information but all the hits seem to be compiling some other files - i can't find out how to specifically compile CUPS yet?
[03:36] <DaskreeCH> beagleburt: Well if it worked in an older version of CUPS then we are probably just missing a driver
[03:37] <fetusbubble> and in which case.. we'll need more info of your printer to find a specific driver for it
[03:37] <beagleburt> DaskreeCH: I have to go very soon to the Doctors appointment may i PM my e-mail to you?
[03:37] <DaskreeCH> Yes
[03:38] <DaskreeCH> !hp
[03:38] <DaskreeCH> !printer
[03:42] <eatThisAndDie> guys, any idea why yahoo will not connect on kopete?
[03:43] <eatThisAndDie> i think I'd need to override the server address, but i dunno what the new add is supposed to be.
[03:46] <DaskreeCH> !yahoo
[03:46] <DaskreeCH> I think they will have killed that server by now though
[03:53] <eatThisAndDie> DaskreeCH: you have any idea what port to use for this?
[03:53] <DaskreeCH> eatThisAndDie: What?
[03:53] <DaskreeCH> Oh yahoo? Default
[03:54] <eatThisAndDie> yahoo chat. Port address for that server.
[03:54] <DaskreeCH> As I said if it's not working they probably killed that server
[03:54] <eatThisAndDie> Rite. OK then,
[03:56] <DaskreeCH> It's fixed in KDE 4.3 RC
[03:57] <DaskreeCH> I think that it's being backported to Jaunty 4.2 but as it stands I can't tell you where that is.
[03:58] <DaskreeCH> eatThisAndDie: One second
[03:58] <DaskreeCH> http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:nGAMPsN2xMIJ:mattr.info:8080/blog/2009/06/24/kopete-and-yahoo/+kopete+yahoo&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk
[03:58] <DaskreeCH> I can't get to the actual page with the info it keeps dying on me
[03:59] <eatThisAndDie> i can get it to connect on Pidgin though...
[03:59] <eatThisAndDie> weird.
[04:01] <DaskreeCH> Pidgin was updaed and pushed  as an unattended update I think
[04:02] <DaskreeCH> If that works for you then use that till kopete gets the nod or if you are already on some version of KDE 4.3 update to RC
[04:02] <eatThisAndDie> DaskreeCH: Thanks for the link, didnt knw they were phasing out the protocols.
[04:03] <eatThisAndDie> thought it was the physical servers.
[04:03]  * DaskreeCH nods
[04:12] <mubu> Hey guys, whats the best way/the most streamlined way to create my own ubuntu 9.04 live cd (I want to add a few apps)? Thanks
[04:13] <tsimpson> !remaster
[04:42] <petsounds> hello, my webcam are detected in cheese but not in kopete or amsn. did i miss something? thank you.
[04:44] <DaskreeCH> Mebbe?
[04:44] <DaskreeCH> What version of each are ou uisng?
[04:44] <DaskreeCH> you using?
[05:03] <Guest25961> can anybody help me with my printer canon mx 300
[05:04] <DaskreeCH> What's up with it?
[05:04] <Guest25961> somebody speaks english here
[05:04] <Guest25961> yees daskreech
[05:04] <Guest25961> i cannot install it in kubuntu 9.04
[05:05] <Guest25961> it is descovered but cannot install it appears but doesnt respond
[05:05] <Guest25961> when i tried to print something
[05:07] <DaskreeCH> What kind of printer is it?
[05:07] <DaskreeCH> A multifunction?
[05:07] <Guest25961> yes
[05:08] <bazhang> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MX300 Guest25961
[05:08] <DaskreeCH> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+question/76111
[05:08] <bazhang> Guest25961, appears to be a paperweight
[05:11] <Guest25961> what paperwhight means
[05:11] <bazhang> non-functional; perhaps connect to a windows in your lan and share printer
[05:12] <Guest25961> ok thank bazhang
[05:12] <bazhang> canon support has always been fairly poor; HP are rock solid
[05:22] <Guest25961> what a pity
[05:22] <Guest25961> hello
[05:23] <fran> hello
[05:23] <Guest788> hello
[05:24] <Guest788> hello
[05:25] <Guest788> who
[05:26] <fran_> hello
[05:26] <fran_> hello
[05:26] <fran_> is anybody there
[05:26] <bazhang> yes
[05:26] <DaskreeCH> hello
[05:26] <bazhang> support questions here please
[05:27] <fran_> i already check the site you gave me and the printer is not supported as you said
[05:27] <brett___> Greetings... quick question... 9.04 has me baffled.  Where in the menu is the friggin aptitude?  I can't find a menu item for administration..
[05:27] <fran_> it is paperweight
[05:27] <brett___> grrrrrr
[05:27] <brett___> this new KDE is wacky
[05:28] <bazhang> brett___, aptitude? in the command line
[05:28] <fran_> your crazy man is the best
[05:28] <DaskreeCH> brett___: Aptitidue will never be in the menu
[05:28] <brett___> not aptitude...
[05:28] <brett___> the gui version
[05:28] <brett___> forget the name
[05:28] <bazhang> adept?
[05:28] <DaskreeCH> kpackagekit ?
[05:28] <bazhang> !info adept
[05:28] <fran_> push alt + f2
[05:28] <brett___> adept
[05:28] <bazhang> brett___, install it
[05:28] <DaskreeCH> brett___: try kpackagekit
[05:29] <DaskreeCH> brett___: You can also press alt+f2 and type software to get all the software management programs installed
[05:29] <brett___> so.. pretend I'm not too gifted (not hard)  do an apt-get from command line?
[05:29] <fran_> if you want to install something try this "sudo aptitude install name of the package"
[05:29] <DaskreeCH> brett___: To do what?
[05:29] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install adept
[05:30] <fran_> sudo apt-get install name of what you want to install
[05:30] <fran_> example try this sudo aptitude install firefox
[05:31] <fran_> example try this sudo aptitude install wine
[05:31] <brett___> great.. thanks...
[05:31] <bazhang> np
[05:31] <fran_> tell us then
[05:31] <fran_> time
[05:33] <fran_> hmmm
[05:33] <fran_> it is good
[05:33] <fran_> r u ok now
[05:34] <fran_> well i have to go
[05:34] <DaskreeCH> ok
[05:34] <DaskreeCH> bye
[05:57] <eatThisAndDie> is there a reason `ps aux` shows my processes as a number (1000) instead of my login NAME?
[05:59] <eatThisAndDie> my login name DOES have more that 8 chars, i think that could be a problem, though I have no idea how to fidentify this
[06:00] <DaskreeCH> No it's supposed to translate it
[06:00] <DaskreeCH> does top do the same?
[06:04] <WindPower> (Posting this message on this channel as well hoping to get more help if possible...) Hi people, I just bought this Asus laptop and am using Kubuntu 9.04-bits on it right now, but the Ethernet controller doesn't work. I tried on Ubuntu as well, and its 32-bit version. I'm using the wireless right now but it slow, unstable, and in a few days it won't be available anymore cause I'll be moving, so I need the ethernet controller to
[06:04] <WindPower>  It's a SiS 191 Gigabit ethernet controller. I've googled around for 2 days now and I've read dozens of forums posts and mailing list messages, some of them going back to 2005, and most of them ending without solution. Any suggestions?
[06:05] <tomdavidson> anyone familuar with mozplugger?
[06:08] <DaskreeCH> WindPower: Does it come up in ifconfig ?
[06:09] <WindPower> Yes, absolutely, it shows up and all, but the network manager says it's "Unavailable"
[06:10] <WindPower> I've put a dump at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7585549
[06:10] <DaskreeCH> WindPower: when you plugin a cord does it light up?
[06:10] <DaskreeCH> Assuming it has lights?
[06:11] <WindPower> No, no light
[06:11] <WindPower> At least no light within the ethernet port itself
[06:11] <WindPower> There is however a little led on the front
[06:11] <WindPower> Nevermind, that's for the wireless
[06:12] <WindPower> It doesn't light up either but the wireless seems to work anyway
[06:12] <DaskreeCH> right
[06:12] <DaskreeCH> So ... I take it when you plugin another computer in the same port it works?
[06:13] <WindPower> You mean plugging that ethernet cable into another comp? Yeah, it does, and using the same ethernet cable works on WIndows on this very laptop
[06:14] <WindPower> So it's not a deffective cable
[06:14] <DaskreeCH> Right
[06:15] <DaskreeCH> what happens when you type sudo dhclient into a konsole ?
[06:19] <WindPower_> Apparently it killed my connection
[06:20] <WindPower_> And I've posted the stuff it said at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7585549
[06:31] <mubu> Hey guys, how do I have my ubuntu 9.04 pc shutdown after a certain amount of minutes. when i use "sudo shutdown 30", after 30 minutes it doesnt shut down, its like i get logged out and go to this weird almost text only rescue menu. Thanks
[06:37] <purpleposeidon> So, like, if you're logged into kde, and you plug in a flash drive, and it mounts itself, and the user can access it. How is this done via command line?
[06:38] <DaskreeCH> purpleposeidon: sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/Folder
[06:38] <purpleposeidon> It is so not.
[06:38] <purpleposeidon> What mechanism does KDE use? It doesn't use that mount/fstab crap
[06:38] <DaskreeCH> WindPower: What's Wmaster?
[06:39] <DaskreeCH> purpleposeidon: It does but it does it through udev
[06:59] <tomdavidson> anyone have experiance with shockwave? I have firefox in wine with shockwave and am trying to get firefox in linux to use the shockwave plugin...
[07:11] <DaskreeCH> There is no shockwave plugin for linux
[07:22] <tomdavidson> oh sure...  I have firefox in wine with shockwave and am trying to get firefox in linux to use the shockwave plugin...
[07:23] <tomdavidson>  i have mozplugger... but can not get ff/linux to use it for the swf . is there a manual way to edit the application choice? i didnt find the good in about:config
[07:32] <adeus> is it just me or is the kde in backports really unstable?
[07:33] <DaskreeCH> adeus: Might be you. What's the problem you are having?
[07:39] <adeus> if I change desktops, it plasma workspace crashes
[07:39] <adeus> not always, but very often
[07:43] <DaskreeCH> hmm how do you change desktops?
[07:45] <adeus> mostly with the keyboard
[07:50] <adeus> mm ok found a duplicate report
[07:51] <DaskreeCH> do you have compositing on?
[07:53] <adeus> bug 197717
[07:53] <adeus> no
[07:54] <adeus> 3;5~3;5~1;5~1;5~1;3~3;5~3;3~
[07:54] <adeus> argh
[07:54] <adeus> now I see it's related to aseigos post
[07:58] <DaskreeCH> huh?
[08:00] <Matisse> hi
[08:00] <adeus> I just lost my browser..
[08:00] <Matisse> need some help with my resolution.
[08:00] <adeus> i.e. proxy connection, but google aseigo :)
[08:00] <adeus> the first post
[08:02] <DaskreeCH> The multihead?
[08:03] <DaskreeCH> Ah the task manager?
[08:03] <adeus> yes
[08:03] <Matisse> please have a look at   http://img221.imageshack.us/i/bildfuckedup.png/
[08:06] <Matisse_> KRandRTray isnt starting, so I cant reset to 1024x768
[08:06] <DaskreeCH> Matisse: what video card?
[08:06] <Matisse_> radeon
[08:06] <exatrive> wow that looks horrible
[08:07] <Matisse_> yes
[08:07] <Matisse_> yesterday I plugged my screen to a laptop -> this changed the resolution
[08:08] <DaskreeCH> !res
[08:13] <Matisse_> trying to restart...
[08:14] <Matisse> looks great now, thx
[08:14] <DaskreeCH> cool
[08:36] <harolddong> is akonadi supposed to be broken in the 4.3 rc? is that like a known issue?
[08:46] <neofox>   HI linux fans, there's a memory editor like cheat engine for linux?
[08:48] <tomdavidson> anyone experianced with kgtk?
[08:50] <tomdavidson> neofox: doesnt work well. i think it would have to have a kernel mod or something to get access
[08:50] <tomdavidson> or use a custom kernel that doesnt have memory protection
[08:52] <neofox> where can I get something from?
[08:52] <tomdavidson> i do not understand the question?
[08:54] <tomdavidson> neofox: this help out? http://freshmeat.net/projects/scanmem/
[08:55] <neofox>   where can I get a custom kernal?
[08:56] <tomdavidson> one that doesnt have the memory protection... i thinkyou would have to compile it. then you would have to comple cheat engien too
[08:56] <neofox> thx I look at it
[08:56] <tomdavidson> the memory issue is one of the reasons a program like ce isnt available on linux
[08:57] <tomdavidson> windows uses shared memory, so one app can booger up the mem of other apps (thats what ce does) but in linux it has protectiosn to keep that from happening
[09:23] <zeltak_> hi guys..anyone knows how to fix the issue with plasmapkg on kde 4.3?
[09:27] <Idhan> hi, using dolphin: is there any way to display information of capacity-freespace for harddisks or externals divices ??
[09:27] <Idhan> *devices
[09:36] <alarm> hello, which directory keeps the kde 4.2 desktop settings ? mainly fonts, desktop settings , window appearence settings, like window decorator and colours
[09:36] <alarm> i dont want to restore the whole .kde dir
[10:26] <racecar56> why don't i have tab completion?
[10:27] <racecar56> does anyone see this message
[10:27] <ZeiP> Yes.
[10:28] <racecar56> k
[10:28] <bazhang> for konversation?
[10:28] <racecar56> no
[10:28] <racecar56> for konsole
[10:28] <racecar56> and terminal stuff
[10:28] <racecar56> ZeiP: i thinking my computer was funny as it seemed this place was kind of silent at the moment
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[10:46] <asakalli> hallo Freunde
[10:47] <asakalli> kann jemand mir sagen mit welchem converter ich die iso datei zum mp4 oder 3gp datei convertieren kann?
[10:48] <hateball> !de | asakalli
[10:49] <asakalli> ok sorry i didn't know
[10:49] <hateball> asakalli: No harm done, just informing you :)
[10:50] <hateball> asakalli: I guess ffmpeg can do it, but I've not tried myself
[10:50] <hateball> asakalli: from what format to what format do you want to do?
[11:14] <chris_angel> hi guys! I switched from gnome to kde :)
[11:16] <simon__> hi there, can someone tell me how I can figure out which version of kubuntu/ubuntu I have ?
[11:19] <simon__> or... what I more would like to know... if there is anyone still active in this channel... how can I review the messages that pop up from kde plasma as info boxes ?
[11:19] <rysiek|pl> "review"?
[11:21] <simon__> yes - they pop-up in a box. then disappear.
[11:21] <Bou> oh
[11:21] <simon__> how can i .... "get them back" to read again what it said?
[11:21] <Bou> you mean see it again?
[11:21] <rysiek|pl> simon__: click on the "i" icon on your panel
[11:22] <simon__> it disappears too!
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> simon__: humm... then that's a bug, probably
[11:22] <Bou> you mean it pops-up and back too fast?
[11:22] <simon__> (and for the short time that its visible... i cant figure out whats the name of the programm... to get info on how to configure it.)
[11:22] <simon__> its visible for one or too seconds.
[11:23] <simon__> but sometimes there are several info boxes above the other..
[11:23] <Bou> well 1 or 2 secons seems ok for a notification pop-up..
[11:23] <Bou> yep
[11:23] <simon__> yes. but if you just come to your computer... and they disappear you might want to know what they saig.
[11:24] <simon__> said
[11:24] <Bou> then click on "I" as rysiek|pl said
[11:25] <simon__> but the "I" disappears too! whats the name of the programm? (or is it an applet?)
[11:26] <chris_angel> what version of KDE is shipped with kubuntu 9.04?
[11:27] <chris_angel> "which"
[11:28] <bazhang> kde4 chris_angel
[11:29] <chris_angel> bazhang: ok thx, there is a newer version right?
[11:29] <bazhang> chris_angel, you wish for kde3?
[11:29] <bazhang> !kde3
[11:30] <chris_angel> bazhang: not really but I use ubuntu and installed KDE via the synaptic package manager
[11:30] <bazhang> chris_angel, I believe there is a PPA for 4.3
[11:31] <chris_angel> bazhang: how do i check which version of kde I'm running?
[11:31] <simon__> how can I find out why my audio device sometimes doesnt work?
[11:32] <simon__> chris_angel: use konqueror and the menu... that says 'help'
[11:32] <simon__> (then 'kde')
[11:32] <chris_angel> simon__: ok thx :)
[11:32] <bazhang> chris_angel, about kde ? not sure as I am logged into gnome at the moment
[11:33] <simon__> I used to have ....a artsd running (when I used debian but its not running on jaunty..)
[11:33] <chris_angel> ok i've got KDE 4.2.2
[11:33] <chris_angel> is that the newest?
[11:33] <simon__> chris_angel: such as i... but i dont relly like it.
[11:34] <simon__> I even dont know how to find out which programm uses the audio device... any suggestions?
[11:34] <chris_angel> simon__: okey, I've been running Gnome for about 2 years I just wanted a change
[11:34] <bazhang> chris_angel, there is newer, but experimental afaik (available via PPA) perhaps backports soon
[11:34] <chris_angel> simon__: hold on a sec
[11:34] <simon__> ( I used to lsof /dev/<whatever> but dont know...)
[11:36] <chris_angel> brb
[11:37] <simon__> i really hate some hardware vendors... got one of those HDAudio soundcards...
[11:42] <alarm> hello, i am trying to install azureus, the problem is that for a strange reason the application to be installed requires a huge amount of dependent packages (that i have never seen on previous installations) : gamin gcj-4.3-base gnome-keyring gnome-mime-data gnome-mount gvfs gvfs-backends libavahi-glib1 libsoup2.4-1 libswt-cairo-gtk-3.4-jni libswt-gnome-gtk-3.4-jni libswt-gtk-3.4-java
[11:42] <alarm> and many others...
[11:43] <alarm> why is that ? what has gnome to do with azureus ?
[11:43] <bazhang> alarm, install from where
[11:44] <doktor> Selam
[11:44] <doktor> türkçe bilen var mı
[11:44] <bazhang> !tr | doktor
[11:46] <alarm_> sorry , anyone answered ? got disconnected :)
[11:47] <bazhang> alarm_, installed from where
[11:47] <alarm_> apt-get install
[11:47] <bazhang> vuze?
[11:47] <alarm_> its not the first time i install azureus and i know that normaly it doesnt require all that stuff
[11:47] <alarm_> no, apt-get install azureus
[11:47] <tsimpson> alarm: try with "sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install azureus"
[11:48] <alarm_> but vuze requires also that gnome stuff, which i find really weird
[11:48] <alarm_> The following NEW packages will be installed: azureus libcommons-cli-java libcommons-lang-java liblog4j1.2-java libswt-gtk-3.4-java libswt-gtk-3.4-jni
[11:48] <alarm_> well that looks better i guess
[11:49] <alarm_> why was that happening before ? could there be an error on my dependencies or something ?
[11:49] <tsimpson> no, just recommends where suggests should probably be
[11:49] <alarm_> and i need the whole gnome family for instaling azureus ? :)
[11:49] <tsimpson> azureus depends on a lot of GTK stuff, which (somewhere) recommends some gnome libs
[11:50] <alarm_> ok, seems not to run. let me check whats going in the console
[11:50] <alarm_> exec: 11: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java: not found
[11:51] <alarm_> ok, google is the doc :)
[11:53] <alarm_> ok, many exceptions but seems to run
[11:53] <alarm_> thank you
[11:54] <tsimpson> make sure you have openjdk-6-jre installed too
[12:07] <alarm_> sorry tsimpson  i wasnt paying attention here.
[12:07] <alarm_> why would i need the openjdk ?
[12:28] <Zorael> With no swap whatsoever, will I be able to hibernate?
[12:38] <EagleScreen> I have downloaded the Kubuntu 9.04 version with KDE3.5
[12:39] <EagleScreen> i am going to check it
[12:54] <etfb> Has anyone here managed to get Mono 2.x working in Hardy?  There's not a single instruction among the millions that looks like it was tested.
[12:55] <capcom> hi all
[12:57] <ibrar> I have a modem and I connect it using kppp but unable to browse the internet ?
[12:58] <capcom> i've a problem with jaunty and wlan.. i try to get wlan working with an avm fritz wlan stick (old version, not n-draft). the stick is installed using ndiswrapper as described at http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FRITZ!WLAN_USB_Stick and seems to be working correctly..
[12:58] <capcom> it shows activity and i can connect to my wlan as well.. the problem is, i can't connect to any site or other computer in the local net or the internet
[13:00] <capcom> i'm using wicd as network manager and think i set up the device properly with the correct ip adresses and a valid wpa key
[13:01] <capcom> the mac address is known to the router as well cause i have a mac filter active there
[13:01] <phh> capcom: it's most likely you missed some of the ip addresses
[13:01] <phh> can't you use dhcp ?
[13:01] <darthanubis> I need a gkrellm replacement
[13:01] <phh> darthanubis: superkaramba ? (yeah kde thing)
[13:01] <darthanubis> all of the system monitors in plasma are amazingly vague as to what is going on?
[13:01] <darthanubis> like network traffic
[13:01] <darthanubis> and hard disk activity
[13:02] <phh> darthanubis: take a look at kde-apps.org, you'll maybe find somethings
[13:02] <capcom> phh: i always use static ip's and i set up everything as usual (before i had hardy running on the same machine and it worked fine)
[13:03] <darthanubis> I looked now I'm asking
[13:03] <ibrar> Any body give me tip
[13:03] <darthanubis> because what I have found is pathetic
[13:03] <capcom> and i have some laptops in the wlan as well with jaunty that work properly.. only difference is that these have internal intel wlan modules anstead of a avm usb stick
[13:04] <ibrar> I got the IP address and DNS address's but cannot ping to any IP
[13:05] <capcom> is it possible that there is somewhere still a setting that forces eth0 to be used instead of wlan0 perhaps?
[13:05] <phh> ibrar: route -n gives a default route ?
[13:06] <phh> capcom: if it's connected only
[13:06] <phh> (or if there are bugs in the driver)
[13:06] <capcom> phh: no i removed the cable.. and tried also sudo ifdown eth0 to be sure that it's inactive
[13:07] <ibrar> phh: 192.168.7.1     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[13:07] <ibrar> phh: this is the only entry
[13:07] <phh> ibrar: weird
[13:08] <ibrar> phh: ifconfig ppp0
[13:08] <ibrar> inet addr:119.154.39.198  P-t-P:192.168.7.1  Mask:255.255.255.255
[13:08] <phh> ibrar: what says ifconfig ppp0 ?
[13:08] <phh> .
[13:09] <phh> oh yeah, it's not in the good order
[13:09] <phh> ibrar: try sudo route add default gw 192.168.7.1
[13:10] <phh> and try pinging an IP (i think your dns will be wrong too)
[13:10] <noaXess> my plasma-desktop eats allways 20-30% of my cpu power.. have kde 4.2.95 (kde 4.3 RC1), anybody has same problem?
[13:12] <Peace-> mmm plasma?
[13:12] <ibrar> phh: route add but unable to ping any ip address
[13:12]  * Peace- checkin
[13:13] <phh> noaXess: it eats a lot too, maybe not 20-30%
[13:13] <Peace-> noaXess: here 3-5 %
[13:13] <ibrar> With same configuration it works in Windows dialup networking
[13:13] <Peace-> noaXess: i have instead phyton that sucks a lot.. -.-''
[13:13] <phh> ibrar: try to find some ppp log in /var/log then
[13:18] <studiodude> Is it normal to loose all internet settings when switching from gnome to kde?
[13:19] <studiodude> I just went in to have a look at kde, which looks great, but found no internet connection available and no sign of wireless connection
[13:19] <darthanubis> studiodude: of course not
[13:19] <ubuntu> ll
[13:19] <bazhang> studiodude, what does ifconfig say in konsole
[13:20] <darthanubis> so no one here uses a detailed system monitor?
[13:20] <ubuntu> studiodude: how did you installed KDE and what Ubuntu version do u have?
[13:20] <studiodude> I'll have to log back in to kde - can i copy and paste across sessions?
[13:20] <studiodude> sorry - that was for bazhang -
[13:21] <studiodude> i'm new to this, still getting used to it
[13:22] <ubuntu> studiodude: the wireless driver is independent of KDE or Gnome it is inside Linux
[13:22] <bazhang> ah he quit
[13:23] <ubuntu> but Gnome uses an applet different than KDE to connect to networkmanager, so you probably have to set wireless configuration again in networkmanager-kde
[13:23] <ubuntu> did you installed kubuntu-desktop package?
[13:28] <studiodude> bazhang - i have the ifconfig file from kde
[13:28] <abdelrahim> nhnhkb
[13:29] <bazhang> studiodude, does it show eth0 wlan0 etc?
[13:29] <studiodude> its reading eth0 and eth1 and lo all have data attatched - there is no wlan at all
[13:30] <studiodude> but thats the same as in gnome
[13:31] <bazhang> studiodude, eth1 sometimes is wlan0 wrongly id'd
[13:31] <studiodude> i have just ran ifconfig in gnome and the files look identical - packet numbers are different obviously
[13:31] <studiodude> bazhang - ok so i have wifi in kde but its not easy to see how to switch it on
[13:31] <phh> studiodude: networkmanager just sucks, so yes it's normal.
[13:32] <phh> but you can configure it to sucks less, i just haven't found how
[13:32] <studiodude> phh - lol
[13:32] <phh> (you have to set your connections as "system connections")
[13:32] <baron86> Hello There.. Does anyone knows how to use background images in folders ? i am using dolphin at Jaunty kubuntu 9.04
[13:32] <bazhang> studiodude, what does sudo dhclient eth1   return
[13:33] <studiodude> bazhang - im gonna nip over to kde and find out - thanks for your help - back in a sec.
[13:39] <ugur> hi people. Does anybody know when we will see firefox 3.5 in ubuntu repositories?
[13:39] <bazhang> ugur, now
[13:39] <bazhang> !ff35 | ugur
[13:40] <ugur> really? let me check now
[13:40] <bazhang> its referred to as 'shiretoko' ugur
[13:41] <studiodude> ok bazhang -  i found a wire and am in kde now - sudo dhclient eth1 returned quite a lot
[13:41] <ibrar> I got it working phh:
[13:42] <ibrar> but internet is really slow
[13:42] <bazhang> studiodude, wired? then it would be sudo dhclient eth0
[13:42] <studiodude> it appears to work wired with no problem
[13:43] <studiodude> bazhang -the command you asked me to put in - what info do you need from that - can i paste it all in here?
[13:44] <bazhang> studiodude, paste.ubuntu.com please, and give us the url
[13:44] <ugur> ok there is 3.5 in the repos and there is also a transitional package for 3.1 users to install it as an update. Which one should i choose?
[13:45] <baron86> Is there a configuration or a program to change the background of a folder? Thnx
[13:45] <studiodude> bazhang - sorry, i'm not quite with you -
[13:46] <bazhang> studiodude, open a browser, go to paste.ubuntu.com website , then paste the results of the command there, hit paste, and then tell us the url
[13:46] <studiodude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/213593/
[13:47] <studiodude> ok -thanks  - bazhang
[13:47] <darthanubis> how can i have Konq open last viewed tabs upon restarting of Konq?
[13:48] <ugur> when i want to install FF 3.5 in kubuntu it is asking for gnome libraries. I know it is a gnome app but i already have FF 3.0 installed on my computer
[13:48] <baron86> is there any info about the .directory so i can change the background image of a folder? Thnx
[13:48] <ugur> so is it really required to install all these libraries again?
[13:49] <bazhang> ugur, not the ones you have already, there are some others that are required though
[13:49] <ugur> ok then thanks
[13:49] <ugur> just to be sure
[13:54] <studiodude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/213593/ -
[14:09] <ugur> i installed Firefox 3.5 on my kubuntu jaunty but kde integration is bad
[14:09] <ugur> first of all how can i make it recognize mime types defined in my system
[14:10] <ugur> gnome support package does not work but it was working in 2.x versions i remember
[14:19] <ugur> any opinions on how i can make my firefox 3.5 recognize mime types and preferred applications in KDE 4.2?
[14:24] <ahmos> hi, how i can get the list of my paritions with terminal console?
[14:24] <Piep000r> I've got a problem with the uck i can't create images wich have a size over 4GB need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:28] <cbk_> hi
[14:28] <Guest97019> anyone from india?
[14:28] <cbk_> anyone from turkey?
[14:28] <cbk_> hi
[14:33] <Matisse> hi
[14:33] <Matisse> !flv
[14:33] <Matisse> What is in a avi if i convert a flv file?
[14:34] <Matisse> (f.e. using ffmpeg)
[14:34] <Matisse> (or avidemux)
[14:42] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, is it possible in some way to make kde use "aspell -t" instead of  aspell?
[14:43] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I am going crazy after kile not being able to spellcheck _latex_ !
[14:43] <ugur> ahmos: you can execute df -hk at konsole to see partitions and disk usage
[14:45] <ugur> Matisse: both flv and avi are container formats both may include codecs for video and audio like divx or mp3
[14:45] <ugur> you can use vlc player to convert from one format to another
[14:46] <Matisse> flv is also a container... so using ffmpeg wouldnt change the codec?
[14:46] <ugur> i use vlc player for all my encoding purposes and it easy to use
[14:47] <ugur> i dont know about ffmpeg
[14:47] <ugur> but i think it shouldnt change the codec
[14:48] <Matisse> And does vlc change the codec or not?
[14:48] <ugur> you can select the container and codec manually in the transforming process
[14:49] <Matisse> ok
[14:50] <ugur> just select convert/save in file menu and you will see the preferences
[14:50] <ugur> some codecs may not work with some containers so you should try by yourself
[14:51] <ka> Hi. Is there an app for controlling the amount of bandwitdh a application can use in kubuntu?
[14:52] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nobody knows if the command for spellchecking can be changed in kde?
[14:53] <ugur> Le-Chuck_ITA: you can execute alias aspell='aspell -t' to create an alias
[14:53] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ugur: but I don't think kde parses the .bashrc
[14:53] <ugur> it should
[14:54] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:54] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ugur: I recall that once I tried that and in the end had to write a script for that let me just try :)
[14:54] <ugur> there are two autorun scripts in bash
[14:54] <wet> hi, how can i establish home wireless network in kubuntu?
[14:55] <ugur> one is .bashrc which is executed each time you enter bash by running bash command
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | wet
[14:55] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ugur: just running kile from the console where I have set the alias does not work
[14:55] <ugur> and the other is .profile which is executed when you login
[14:55] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ugur: I think the new kde is not calling aspell directly perhaps
[14:56] <wet> are there any other way? because i'm on live cd
[14:57] <BluesKaj> wet, click on the cashew icon ob the right side of the panel , choose add widgets , in the widget box look for network management
[14:58] <barbapapette> hello
[14:59] <barbapapette> someone has the url for updating to KDE 4.3 RC1?
[14:59] <wet> thank you
[14:59] <barbapapette> does exist a backport or another deposit?
[15:00] <yougoob> hi
[15:00] <yougoob> i just install kubuntu-desktop on jaunty
[15:01] <yougoob> i dont know how to change the panel theme?
[15:01] <Matisse> yougoob, system settings - search for "theme"
[15:01] <BluesKaj> barbapapette, open package manager and enable third party software and check all the sources , except for the cdrom
[15:02] <yougoob> Matisse, i did that but I can only see "Appearance" - there is no theme. Sorry. it was a long time ago when I used KDE.
[15:03] <yougoob> Matisse, I have been using gnome for 1 year now
[15:03] <Matisse> yougoob, there is another search result, click on the other tab (or however it is called
[15:03] <Matisse> )
[15:03] <yougoob> Matisse, got it :) thanks
[15:05] <yougoob> Matisse, what do you call the panel here? it looks way way different than it did is this oxygen or plasmoid?
[15:06] <Matisse> plasmoids are those tools you can add to the desktop (like a directory view, weather casts and stuff)
[15:06] <yougoob> Matisse, oh silly me, like widgets right?
[15:07] <Matisse> right
[15:07] <yougoob> hmmm... i just downloaded and installed glassified. but it wont apply.
[15:08] <yougoob> lol sorry, i feel like an absolute noob here. everything seems so different
[15:08] <Matisse> yougoob, its not that easy
[15:08] <Matisse> style stuff isnt changeable a one place
[15:09] <Matisse> choose another "kickoff" style, then press apply and look at the hint
[15:09] <Matisse> (if theres a hint, popping up...)
[15:10] <yougoob> Matisse, if I choose one by one I can modify and apply...
[15:10] <Matisse> no
[15:10] <yougoob> Matisse, hmmm. nothing is changing
[15:11] <Matisse> change one of them, then the "Apply" button is pressable
[15:11] <Matisse> then, on my computer a dialog hint window thing is popping up
[15:12] <yougoob> Matisse, its saying something about Customized...
[15:17] <yougoob> Matisse, strange, I clicked apply and everything still looks the same...
[15:20]  * yougoob scratches head
[15:22] <BluesKaj> yougoob, maybe you need new themes..you can DL them
[15:22] <yougoob> BluesKaj, I downloaded 2 already :D
[15:23] <yougoob> BluesKaj, I choose from the dropdown then click Apply. No Changes happen.. D:
[15:24]  * yougoob just downloaded Carbon... now I have 3 themes that do not change... D:
[15:26] <dark_rain> Hi, is it possible to load konqueror sessions from the cli? For example, like the way profiles can be loaded: 'kfmclient openProfile filemanagement' but a saved session instead.
[15:28]  * yougoob scratches back...
[15:28]  * dark_rain scratches head
[15:29] <yougoob> want me to scratch your back?
[15:29]  * yougoob scratches dark_rain's back
[15:30]  * dark_rain says thanks for the back scratch
[15:30] <yougoob> :D seriously though, sorry i dont know the answer to your question, ive been waiting for answers too...
[15:31] <dark_rain> np. I think I probably need to ask in #konqueror
[15:31] <yougoob> ok. there are not that many kde 4.2 tutorials on the web...
[15:31] <dark_rain> true
[15:31] <dark_rain> what problem are you having yougoob?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> dark_rain, maybe #kde would be abetter chat for that question
[15:32] <yougoob> dark_rain, its very simple really, i cant change my desktop theme. when i click apply nothing happens...
[15:33] <yougoob> dark_rain, its just sad because these kde stuff sounds so cool
[15:33] <yougoob> dark_rain, glassified, carbon, slim glow...
[15:34] <dark_rain> BluesKaj: Thanks i'll try in there too
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yougoob, did youtry rightclick on the desktop , desktop settings ?
[15:34] <yougoob> ya me too :D
[15:35] <dark_rain> yougoob: hmm. it works for me. what version are you using?
[15:35] <yougoob> BluesKaj, i just did. it worked. :D thanks
[15:36] <yougoob> dark_rain,  i dunno. :D anyway it worked already :D I've been a long time gnome and icewm user - the last time i used kde = was last year
[15:36] <dark_rain> yougoob: oh. cool :)
[15:37] <yougoob> ^_^
[15:38] <dark_rain> yougoob: you should try the new 4.3 rc1, it's even nicer :P
[15:39] <yougoob> dark_rain sounds dangerous ^_^ i am usually a late adopter.
[15:39] <alfonso> Spaña¿
[15:39] <alfonso> algien de españa
[15:39] <alfonso> ¿
[15:39] <bazhang> !es
[15:40] <yougoob> mi case es micasa
[15:40] <alfonso> um
[15:40] <alfonso> algien me puede decir como abrir los puertos para configurar amle¿
[15:40] <alfonso> amule
[15:41] <bazhang> alfonso, english here; #kubuntu-es for espanol
[15:43] <Matisse> dark_rain, do you how I change the style of the plasmoids?
[15:44] <yougoob> Matisse, they seem to change along with everything
[15:44] <Matisse> well, think i got it.
[15:44] <dark_rain> Matisse: Right click desktop, desktop settings, then desktop theme dropdown
[15:44] <Matisse> You have to chose "user defined" and define it on your own :)
[15:46] <Matisse> this sucks. I chose "user defined" and the dialog tells me to do that, before the changes will be applied...
[15:46] <dark_rain> Matisse: If you are interested, there is a package called: plasma-desktopthemes-artwork which contains a few themes for plasma.
[15:47] <dark_rain> Matisse: oh, you are customising in system settings?
[15:47] <Matisse> yes
[15:48] <Matisse> i would like too
[15:48] <Matisse> s/too/to
[15:49] <dark_rain> I like the new 4.3 rc1 theme.
[15:49] <yougoob> downloading themes is fun ^_^
[15:49] <Matisse> NOW i understand
[15:49] <dark_rain> ^^
[15:49] <yougoob> dark_rain, what's it called?
[15:50] <dark_rain> yougoob: it's an update air theme i think
[15:50] <dark_rain> updated*
[15:50] <dark_rain> lots of new plazmoids too
[15:50] <yougoob> dark_rain, sounds good - downloading it now :D
[15:50] <dark_rain> hehe
[15:57] <Xand3r> hey folks
[15:58] <Xand3r> i want to start systemsettings
[15:58] <Xand3r> but i get an error message
[15:58] <Xand3r> systemsettings: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsystemsettingsview.so: file too short
[15:58] <Xand3r> what is the problem?
[16:01]  * yougoob mutters not in google...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:14] <yougoob> why are there so many that join and leave?
[16:14] <Bou> netsplit
[16:14] <bazhang> yougoob, that is normal, what irc client are you using
[16:14] <Byron_> Hello all
[16:14] <yougoob> Hi Byron
[16:14] <yougoob> bazhang, xchat
[16:15] <bazhang> yougoob, right click channel and choose hide joins/parts
[16:15] <Byron_> Hello yougoob
[16:15] <Byron_> How do I remove a ghost of my nick without the underscore?
[16:15] <yougoob> Byron register?
[16:15] <Byron_> Yes, it is
[16:15] <yougoob> Byron_ register your nick
[16:16] <Byron_> It is registered.
[16:16] <bazhang> Byron_, /msg nickserv help ghost
[16:16] <yougoob> bazhang, thanks
[16:16] <yougoob> thats why i dont bother registering... i just think of all sorts of weird names. spares me the trouble
[16:17] <Byron> Thank you bazhang. Much better.
[16:17] <Byron> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition, but it fails no matter what apps I choose. I want LAMP with Mail Server and OpenSSH
[16:18] <bazhang> Byron, the installer fails?
[16:18] <Byron> I can get to tasksel, make those choices and have the packages downloaded, but it fails instantly when it tries to install anything.
[16:18] <Byron> bazhang: Yes.
[16:18] <bazhang> Byron, did you md5 the iso? burn at very low speed ?
[16:19] <yougoob> sounds like a media problem
[16:19] <bazhang> could be a corrupt iso
[16:19] <Byron> No to md5 and IIRC, I burned it at 8x but I could be wrong
[16:20] <bazhang> !md5
[16:21] <Byron> bazhang: I still have the ISO, but I don't have anything to which I can compare. It was a torrent I got from isohunt.com
[16:21] <Byron> Never mind. I see the hash now.
[16:21] <Byron> Let me double check it all
[16:21] <bazhang> Byron, at what point does the installer fail? any error messages
[16:22] <Byron> Oh yeah, WAY off from the default hash
[16:22] <bazhang> then that is the likely culprit
[16:22] <Byron> bazhang: Select and Install Software section. Let me get you the full error message.
[16:25] <Byron> bazhang: Here is the error message:
[16:26] <Byron> An instllation setup failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software. <Continue>
[16:27] <bazhang> Byron, this is ncurses, correct? seems the iso may be corrupt
[16:27] <yougoob> better to download from official website.
[16:28] <Byron> ncurses? No clue. I believe the ISO is corrupt if the md5 doesn't match up the slightest bit.
[16:28] <bazhang> there are official torrents as well
[16:28] <bazhang> Byron, that seems to be the case
[16:28] <Byron> bazhang: Of all things I would not have thought about md5. I kept checking my settings and such.
[16:29] <Byron> I'm downloading a new torrent. Should be done in about 12 minutes
[16:29] <bazhang> Byron, not to worry, I have made a large number of bad disks (coasters)
[16:29] <yougoob> lol @ bazhang
[16:29] <Byron> Yeah, I've known a few companies to do that.
[16:29] <yougoob> for tea
[16:31] <yougoob> heh, i installed regular ubuntu - then installed LAMP - then installed kubuntu-desktop
[16:32] <Byron> I don't get it. Why install a GUI for a server?
[16:32] <yougoob> for fun :D
[16:33] <bazhang> Byron, no need, once you get a good iso it should go well
[16:33] <Byron> I can't wait to have my LAMP server setup all nice and pretty to host my stuff.
[16:35] <yougoob> Byron do you have a domain?
[16:36] <Byron> yougoob: Yes and no. I have a domain, but it's not going to be used here. I'm going to setup my LAMP server for testing many different things and getting a better understanding of how servers work and function.
[16:37] <yougoob> Byron, exactly the same thing I am doing :D
[16:37] <Byron> 5 minutes left for the ISO.
[16:37] <Byron> How is that coming along for you, yougoob?
[16:39] <yougoob> its ok. i am a beginner. - so youtube videos are particularly time savers when it comes to learning new things
[16:42] <yougoob> that's fast
[16:42] <Byron> What is?
[16:42] <Byron> Time to check the md5. Download done.
[16:43] <Byron> :(
[16:43] <Byron> still not the correct hash
[16:43] <yougoob> your connection
[16:43] <Byron> Where can I download the official torrent?
[16:43] <Byron> !server
[16:43] <bazhang> !torrents
[16:44] <yougoob> Hmmm. I don't think there is a kubuntu server...
[16:46] <bazhang> good point
[16:47] <bazhang> http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ Byron
[16:47] <Byron> Not finding server ISO
[16:47] <Byron> there we go
[16:49] <Byron> Downloading now
[16:49] <Byron> yougoob: You think 700kb/s is fast?
[16:51] <Byron> Download will be complete in about 9 minutes
[16:52] <Byron> bazhang: The md5 that I've been using matches that of the site, not from the torrent site.
[16:52] <Byron> So I guess it is not a bad torrent
[16:52] <bazhang> Byron, that is odd; this is a text-only install correct? is there an option to check the disk integrity?
[16:53] <Byron> Yes and yes
[16:53] <bazhang> Byron, did you do the disk integrity check?
[16:54] <Byron> Doing that now
[16:55] <Byron> I don't suppose there is a free shipit for server edition, huh?
[16:56] <bazhang> let me check
[16:56] <Byron> 3 minutes left on the download.
[16:57] <bazhang> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ yep there is
[16:57] <bazhang> takes more than five minutes though
[16:58] <Byron> Many things take more than 5 minutes. What specifically?
[16:59] <bazhang> shipping may be around a month for shipit cds
[16:59] <Byron> that's fine. As long as I have something concrete that I know is official and won't give me these issues, I'll wait for it
[16:59] <Byron> 1 minute remaining
[17:07] <Byron> Download done and md5 confirmed. I guess I'll just burn it slower this time around. What is a good speed. I'm used to 8x for my slow burns.
[17:08] <bazhang> that should suffice, the md5 and the disk integrity checks are key imo, along with decent media
[17:10] <Byron> Burn baby, burn :)
[17:11] <Byron> so the slowest it will burn is 10x
[17:11] <Byron> Crazy netbook
[17:12] <Byron> Integrity check is at 60% for the original disk I have been using.
[17:24] <Byron> Should I wait for the integrity check to finish or terminate it at the current 81% and start with the new ISO?
[17:25] <bazhang> how long is it staying at 81%?
[17:25] <Byron> It's all been taking a while and I honestly haven't kept an eye on it as I've been doing the new ISO burn and moving my car out of the way.
[17:26] <bazhang> seems about 10 minutes
[17:26] <bazhang> perhaps give it a couple more, and if it does not budge from 81 try the other
[17:26] <Byron> it's at 84% now.
[17:27] <Byron> 85...
[17:27] <Byron> Yeah, it's moving along
[17:27] <Byron> I guess there was something that was just being checked
[17:28] <Byron> *DOUBLE checked
[17:29] <Byron> 95%
[17:30] <beco> kann man mit kdenlive video-clips seitlich drehen?
[17:31] <Byron> bazhang: The CD-ROM integrity test was successful. The CD-ROM is valid.
[17:31] <bazhang> beco, english here please; #ubuntu-de for german
[17:32] <beco> alright
[17:32] <bazhang> Byron, good news
[17:32] <Byron> I'm putting in the new CD
[17:33] <dksoba88> I am trying to install an nvidia driver (169.12) for my Quadro FX 570M
[17:34] <dksoba88> and the installer tells me I need to install kernel sources
[17:34] <dksoba88> (because I'm running kernal version 2.6
[17:34] <dksoba88> but I'm not quite sure the name of the package for installing kernel sources
[17:34] <dksoba88> or maybe it's already installed and I need to tell the nvidia installer where they are
[17:35] <yoga> How do I disable smooth scrolling in Konqueror?
[17:36] <phh> good question.
[17:38] <yoga> It's not smooth!
[17:38] <bazhang> dksoba88, what version of Kubuntu
[17:38] <dksoba88> bazhang: err how can I check this?
[17:38] <yoga> bazhang: Konqueror Version 4.2.95
[17:39] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in konsole dksoba88
[17:39] <dksoba88> bazhang: I'll add that to my "useful cmds" document haha
[17:39] <dksoba88> bazhang: 9.04 Jaunty
[17:40] <bazhang> dksoba88, how are you trying to install that driver
[17:41] <dksoba88> bazhang: first I use ctr-alt-f1 to get to console, I stop kdm with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then I type "sh nvidia_driver_blah_blah.run"
[17:41] <dksoba88> bazhang: then I use the interface
[17:41] <dksoba88> bazhang: I was able to install the 185.18 driver for the Quadro FX570, but this did not work
[17:42] <dksoba88> bazhang: when kdm started it would go haywire and things wouldn't display correctly, and it'd never get into X
[17:42] <Byron> bazhang: This download is worse that my original
[17:42] <dksoba88> bazhang: then I realized that I should have selected the NVidia driver for notebooks, since this is an HP 8510w
[17:42] <bazhang> dksoba88, should install from within repos, not from nvidia site
[17:42] <Byron> I'm getting issues at the start with packages for the installation of the base system
[17:43] <dksoba88> bazhang: the same thing happens if I kmenu->hardware drivers
[17:43] <bazhang> Byron, what issues
[17:43] <dksoba88> bazhang: and then it shows the versions of nvidia drivers that are there, and I activate 185
[17:43] <harolddong> I always have more problems with the one from the repos personally.  the one from nvidia works like buttah for me
[17:43] <bazhang> dksoba88, and then install them?
[17:44] <Byron> bazhang: I don't recall now. I just told it to continue after so many failed packages such as the language pack, python and a few others
[17:44] <dksoba88> bazhang: I click activate, it does some stuff, then I restart my computer and kdm won't start
[17:44] <bazhang> dksoba88, could you clarify 'does some stuff' ?
[17:45] <dksoba88> bazhang: sure
[17:45] <dksoba88> bazhang: KDE starts up with distorted colors and it's stretched in the vertical orientation, the part where the bar comes up
[17:46] <dksoba88> bazhang: then the screen goes black, then it goes into a console, a few seconds later, the screen goes black again, and then right back into the console
[17:46] <bazhang> dksoba88, so have you checked the package manager to see if the drivers are actually installed?
[17:46] <Byron> bazhang: doing it over again. This is the corrupt file: file:///cdrom/pool/main/l/langpack-locales_2.9+cvs20090214-7_all.deb
[17:47] <dksoba88> bazhang: nvidia binary xorg driver?
[17:47] <Byron> bazhang: file:///cdrom/pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.0-19ubuntu1_all.deb was corrupt
[17:47] <bazhang> Byron, that is odd, in light of the successful disk integrity check
[17:47] <Byron> bazhang: Well, this is the new downloaded and burned CD. I'll do the integrity next.
[17:48] <bazhang> dksoba88, have you started up in safe mode/recovery mode?
[17:48] <dksoba88> bazhang: well I'm currently using a default /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and kde opens fine
[17:48] <Byron> bazhang: file://cdrom/pool/main/p/python2.6/python2.6-minimal_2.6.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb was corrupt
[17:48] <dksoba88> bazhang: the only reason I need to install nvidia drivers is because glx isn't working
[17:49] <dksoba88> bazhang: when I run glxgears I get: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[17:49] <dksoba88> bazhang: I need glx to work for some special closed-source reseach software I'm trying to run
[17:49] <Byron> bazhang: Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.9-4ubuntu6_i386.deb
[17:49] <muesli> OH GOSH.... when will (k)ubuntu grow up and be able to support sleep / standy without going totally nuts
[17:50] <bazhang> dksoba88, and those are the recommended ones, correct? are they shown to be installed in the package manager?
[17:50] <Byron> Checking disk integrity right now
[17:50] <dksoba88> bazhang: no, those aren't the ones that nvidia recommends for the QuadroFX 570M which is what I have
[17:50] <dksoba88> bazhang: there's no recommended driver in repos for the 570M as far as I can find
[17:51] <bazhang> dksoba88, how old is that card
[17:51] <dksoba88> bazhang: not too old, not too new
[17:51] <ryeenv> I'm creating an install on a 4GB thumbdrive, what is the minium size of /var I can get away with?
[17:52] <dksoba88> bazhang: here is the display driver I'm trying to install: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.12.html
[17:52] <dksoba88> bazhang: but the installer for that is asking for kernal-sources
[17:52] <dksoba88> bazhang: I can paste the error message I get when I run that but it's kind of lengthy
[17:52] <bazhang> dksoba88, then install them?
[17:53] <Pici> ryeenv: Is there a reason why you even need to separate /var off into its own partition?
[17:53] <dksoba88> bazhang: when I run the installer it can't find the sources
[17:54] <ryeenv> Pici: incase I run a service that fills up with log files
[17:54] <harolddong> do we ask about issues relating to the kde 4.3 rc in here or n #kubuntu-devel?
[17:54] <bazhang> dksoba88, no idea about going outside the package management system; I always install my nvidia drivers from within repos
[17:54] <ryeenv> pici: you think I should worry about it?
[17:54] <Byron> bazhang: New CD from the official site appears to be corrupt :(
[17:54] <dksoba88> bazhang: I see
[17:54] <dksoba88> bazhang: can I send you the error message somehow?
[17:55] <Pici> ryeenv: I think that if you fill up var with your own log files then other things may stop working as well, so I personally wouldn't parition it off.
[17:55] <bazhang> dksoba88, paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url so all can see
[17:55] <ryeenv> pici: thanks
[17:56] <dksoba88> bazhang: is there an easy way to copy a text file to the clipboard from within the console?
[17:57] <bazhang> dksoba88, sure, install pastebinit
[17:58] <ryeenv> pici: you think I should be safe with only seperate partitions for /boot, /, and home? (+swap)
[17:58] <dksoba88> bazhang: awesomeness, here you go: http://pastebin.com/f2b0b99a2
[17:59] <Pici> ryeenv: I personally don't separate /boot off, but some do, its a personal preference at this point.  The other two are a must though.
[18:00] <Vinay-india> hellooo room
[18:00] <Vinay-india> i have a small problem
[18:00] <ryeenv> pici: i'll leave /boot off... i have no idea how big kernels can get now a days anyways. thanks
[18:01] <Byron> bazhang: I'm getting the ISO this time. I hope that works out for the best
[18:01] <bazhang> Byron, good luck
[18:02] <bazhang> dksoba88, were you prompted to answer Y/N at any point?
[18:02] <Vinay-india> when ever i start adept add/remove
[18:02] <dksoba88> bazhang: yes, let me try to remember
[18:02] <dksoba88> bazhang: it asked to go online to find sources, didn't find any when I said yes
[18:02] <dksoba88> bazhang: also asks for a EULA, etc
[18:02] <dksoba88> bazhang: that's pretty much it
[18:02] <Byron> bazhang: I meant to say torrent. Sorry. The other ISO was fine, so I don't know what gives.
[18:02] <bazhang> dksoba88, it appears you answered no to the trying to find kernel sources one
[18:03] <dksoba88> bazhang: but I just read that you need to run this at runlevel 1, so telinit 1, right?
[18:03] <dksoba88> bazhang: but I was probably at run level 3
[18:03] <gnata> looks like karmic i386 is fully broken : no premissions on /dev/null
[18:03] <bazhang> dksoba88, you were in the console correct? with kdm stopped?
[18:03] <dksoba88> bazhang: there's not a "try to find kernel sources" question though
[18:03] <dksoba88> bazhang: yes, kdm was stopped, in the console
[18:04] <dksoba88> bazhang: okay I found out how to specify where the headers are
[18:04] <bazhang> dksoba88, great
[18:05] <dksoba88> bazhang: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run --kernel-install-path=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386/
[18:05] <dksoba88> bazhang: I'll try that and see if it'll work
[18:05] <dksoba88> I checked /usr/src/ and there are linux-headers there
[18:05] <dksoba88> brb
[18:05] <gnata> hi, could someone boot on an up to date karmic?
[18:06] <gnata> looks like udev or hal is broken. I get only a read only fr with wrong prems on all /dev/
[18:06] <bazhang> gnata, #ubuntu+1 for that
[18:06] <gnata> bazhang: ok
[18:06] <pm2> Hi - I'm on Kubuntu 9.04, and I'm having a problem where in some text boxes when I type a black box appears near the cursor, or sometimes the entire box has a black bar accross it.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:09] <pm2> or would I be best just to downgrade to 8.04?
[18:11] <dark_rain> pm2: you could try upgrading kde to 4.3 rc1, but to be honest I've never seen anything like that. Do you have compositing enabled?
[18:11] <pm2> dark_rain: I don't think so, how can I check?
[18:12] <dark_rain> systemsettings->desktop
[18:13] <ryeenv> is it best practice to use ext4 now?
[18:13] <pm2> it says compositing type is opengl
[18:13] <dark_rain> It's much faster than ext3
[18:14] <ryeenv> dark_rain, thanks
[18:14] <dark_rain> np
[18:14] <dark_rain> pm2: there should be a checkbox
[18:14] <dark_rain> pm2: enable desktop effects. is it checked or unchecked?
[18:14] <pm2> checked
[18:15] <dark_rain> pm2: try unchecking it and pressing ok
[18:15] <pm2> ok
[18:15] <dark_rain> pm2: any difference?
[18:15] <pm2> that looks like it may have fixed it
[18:16] <dark_rain> pm2: it's probably your graphics card driver / configuration
[18:16] <harolddong> is akonadi broken in the 4.3 rc?
[18:16] <pm2> I see - well, it will give me something to play with anyway -- thanks for your help
[18:17] <dark_rain> pm2: you can check if direct render is enabled on your gfx card by doing: gfxinfo | grep direct
[18:17] <dark_rain> glxfino*
[18:18] <dark_rain> glxinfo*
[18:18] <dark_rain> lol
[18:54] <racecar56> i want to connect a firewire cable between 2 computers (one is gnome, it's too old for kde, and the other is KDE4), both are 9.04
[18:54] <racecar56> to get internet
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> !ics
[18:55] <Tm_T> racecar56: how something can be too old for KDE when it runs GNOME ?
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> racecar56- one of those links might have instructions for Firewire
[18:57] <racecar56> Tm_T: it problable can run kde but it's slow
[18:57] <racecar56> Tm_T: i didn't wait enough for it
[18:58] <Tm_T> racecar56: interesting, if you like to discuss it more lenghty, come and join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:00] <Seiler> hi
[19:02] <Seiler> schreibt hier keiner was?
[19:03] <harolddong> soo where is the akonadi database stored?
[19:03] <ryeenv> pici, thanks for you help... later
[19:13] <yoga> I have problem using Kget.  When I download a file from a link in Konqueror, kget is invoked, the 'New Download' dialog box pops up, but the "Destination:" field get a directory only, it does not have the origional file name from the link. I am in KDE 4.3 RC1.
[19:26] <ka_> yoga: I can confirm, that I only see one directory in the dropdownlist...
[19:29] <racecar56> how do i share my internet on this comp with kde to my other comp with gnome (it might be able to use kde but i don't knorw) with a firewire cable?
[19:29] <racecar56> *know
[19:35] <yoga> ka_: so if you click the "Open fiel dialog" then choose another directory, I get a wrong "Destination:" constructed by Kget, it will append the the pervious directory to the new directory.
[19:36] <yoga> ka_: for example: /home/user1/d1 becomes home/user1/new/d1 if I pick /home/user1/new in the "Open file dialog"
[19:37] <yoga> ka_: What I expect is /home/user1/new
[19:39] <azeddine> hi
[19:41] <ka_> yoga: there is definately something wrong with kget...
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> racecar56: I think support is very experimental for firewire networks in Linux... They're very slow in XP too from what I've heard :S
[19:46] <gandolfo> holas
[19:46] <gandolfo> alguien sabe montar un pendrive en el ubuntu_
[19:46] <Guest42119> msg LuX|MuSiCa|03 xdcc send #25
[19:46] <Pici> !es | gandolfo
[19:51] <racecar56> Captain_Haddock: :(
[19:51] <racecar56> Captain_Haddock: too bad, i got this firewire cable just for that purpose
[19:55] <MrToshiba> What the heck is libsexy?
[19:57] <Pici> !info libsexy2 | MrToshiba
[19:58] <MrToshiba> thx
[20:23] <slow-motion> hi
[20:29] <afeijo> how can I run a .py file?
[20:29] <rysiek|pl> afeijo: python your_file.py
[20:30] <afeijo> thanks, something wrong on the .py file then, it doesnt work
[20:37] <vprm> how can I put Ubunntu into a network with XP??
[20:38] <tonii> with a NIC
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> vprm: if the two systems are on the same physical network
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> vprm: you should be able to browse to the XP's shared folders from ubuntu
[20:40] <MikHel> Hello!
[20:41] <MikHel> I am having some problems with the network plasmoid in 9.04...
[20:42] <MikHel> I cannot connect to a Mobile Broadband or VPN connection.
[20:42] <MikHel> Very frustrating.
[20:43] <MikHel> Additionally the VPN connection settings do not even seem to get remembered...
[20:43] <MikHel> Anybody played with those before ?
[20:49] <squid0> hi. something strange happened to me. my computer froze, and I had to hard reboot. when it restarted, I saw a lot of messages from fsdisk (? the disk checking program) saying that there were orphaned files, which it fixed. most of those were icons used by plasma/kde.
[20:50] <squid0> Now, many of my icons are blurred, ie. the smaller icons made bigger. this, I presume, is because the bigger icons cannot be found. how do I fix this?
[20:50] <MikHel> squid0: Is your screen at the correct resolution?
[20:51] <H2OyJaBoN> hi all!
[20:51] <squid0> MikHel: yes. some of the icons are fine, but others are not
[20:51] <H2OyJaBoN> is posible to auto-connect a hidden wifi using wpa ?
[20:52] <MikHel> squid0: Then I do not know... But you should double check anyway in your display settings.
[20:53] <mooskito> algun canal en español que me puedan recomendar
[20:54] <H2OyJaBoN> mooskito:  #kubuntu-es
[20:54] <mooskito> gracias
[20:54] <H2OyJaBoN> de nada! :)
[20:57] <squid0> MikHel: thanks, but that's not the issue
[20:57] <n8w> hey
[20:58] <n8w> guys, do u know how to fix the issue regardin a missin plugin for stream video( video/x-ms-asf)?
[21:02] <vprm> how do i change my domain name??
[21:02] <rysiek|pl> vprm: what domain name
[21:03] <vprm> workgroup..
[21:05] <jarle> Amarok 2.1.1 just keeps crashing on me during startup, is this a known problem with the kubuntu package?
[21:13] <harolddong> what package contains qmysql?  akonadi isnt working and says it needs it
[21:14] <H2OyJaBoN> harolddong:  what do you wnat to say with qmysql?
[21:15] <harolddong> akonadi isnt working at all and mailody says that package qmysql is missing
[21:15] <harolddong> but a buunch of other q*sql packages are present
[21:15] <H2OyJaBoN> if iit s the qt-sql module for mysql then libqt4-sql-mysql
[21:16] <H2OyJaBoN> but i'm not sure
[21:18] <harolddong> that's already installed
[21:32] <rubyist> hey
[21:33] <rubyist> by default, does kubuntu install the drivers you need for xorg, or use the vesa driver?
[21:33] <rubyist> also, for sound, i've got a nvidia driver(nVidia Corporation MCP55), is this easy to find in the repositories?
[21:33] <Tm_T> rubyist: all open drivers
[21:33] <rubyist> Tm_T: how can i find out what driver xorg is using?
[21:34] <Tm_T> rubyist: one way is grepping /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:34] <rubyist> thanks
[21:35] <rubyist> X.org video driver : 5.0
[21:35] <rubyist> what would that be?
[21:36] <rubyist> Module ABI versions..
[21:36] <rubyist> i don't really get that, is it vesa 5.0, or ABI driver 5.0?
[21:37] <Tm_T> just some api/abi version I believe
[21:37] <chris_> key
[21:37] <chris_> hey
[21:38] <rubyist> Tm_T: Is "abi" like "vesa" ? I'd like to use a driver that takes the capabilites of my cards.
[21:38] <Tm_T> rubyist: no, hmm, "grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:39] <rubyist> ahh cool
[21:39] <rubyist> nvidia driver
[21:39] <rubyist> nice
[21:39] <rubyist> ty Tm_T
[21:40] <rubyist> my next problem is sound.. ive got a nVidia Corporation MCP55, and i'm not sure which driver i need for it? all nvidia drivers seem to be for display
[21:41] <Tm_T> rubyist: well, IIRC nvidia has never developed their own sound chip
[21:41] <Tm_T> rubyist: so, if sound works, you prolly have the one needed
[21:41] <rubyist> it doesn't work :)
[21:42] <Tm_T> rubyist: how it doesn't work?
[21:42] <rubyist> root@okiwana:/home/robert# lspci | grep -i audio
[21:42] <rubyist> 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[21:42] <rubyist> Tm_T: no sound :P
[21:43] <Tm_T> rubyist: where no sound? your system see the card but speakers doesn't have any noise?
[21:43] <rubyist> i've checked alsamixer, nothing is muted
[21:44] <rubyist> Tm_T: how do i know if the system sees them? nope, no speaker sound
[21:45] <rubyist> oh just tested it now
[21:45] <rubyist> "The audio playback device Nvidia ... does not work, falling back to .."
[21:46] <rubyist> so i guess they're recongized, but there isn't a driver..
[21:47] <rubyist> any ideas?
[21:49] <sdfg> have two hard drives one master one slave
[21:50] <sdfg> is there any way to install linux on one from vista on the other
[21:52] <sdfg> another words when i boot into vista from primary how can i install linux on slave drive
[21:52] <sdfg> couse i cannot boot linux from cd for some reason? weird
[21:53] <sdfg> please help i hate power hungr vista
[22:10] <sdfg>  when i boot into vista from primary how can i install linux on slave drive
[22:10] <Daviey> sdfg: debootstrap
[22:10] <sdfg> Daviey: what is that?
[22:10] <Daviey> sdfg: oh, missunderstood.. it's an option in your installer where you install it
[22:11] <sdfg> Daviey: trying to install to slave from inside vist couse cant get cd installer to work
[22:11] <Daviey> sdfg: You can choose where to install, in the installer
[22:12] <Daviey> sdfg: Oh!  How far along are you getting trying to install from cd?
[22:12] <sdfg> Daviey: get past the first gui interface then choose install and shortly after it hangs on me
[22:13] <sdfg> Daviey: making me mad too i hate vista
[22:14] <sdfg> friggen takes up 20 gb hard drive space
[22:14] <sdfg> Daviey: so is thare a way to install from inside vista onto my slave drive
[22:15] <sdfg> Daviey: then come back and wipe vista from my primary drive?
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: maybe try an alternate cd
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: it hasn't got such a nice GUI, but should be more bullet proof
[22:17] <sdfg> those usually take days to do
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: oh, and make sure the CD is ok
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: "days"?
[22:17] <sdfg> being sarcastic sry
[22:18] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: well, anywhoo, check the CD for defects
[22:18] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: I am willing to bet that the cd is b0rked
[22:18] <sdfg> rysiek|pl: the disk is ok i used it on my pc
[22:18] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: sometimes some cd drives have better error correction than others
[22:19] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: just do check the cd in the cd drive you use to install it where you get problems
[22:19] <sdfg> rysiek|pl: it says its ok
[22:20] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: in that case, hwo do you go about installing? do you let the full LiveCD environment boot, or do you use the "Install" option in the boot menu?
[22:21] <sdfg> rysiek|pl: have tried both
[22:21] <sdfg> rysiek|pl: they both stop at the same point
[22:21] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: always fails at the same very moment?
[22:21] <rysiek|pl> ah
[22:22] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: I'd try a different install cd - alternate, or maybe a Xubuntu one?
[22:22] <sdfg> rysiek|pl: kk thnx
[22:22] <rysiek|pl> sdfg: it's basically the same system, you'd only need to install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop, as you please
[22:39] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know what I would need to do to create an image gallery -- like Tabblo / Flickr, etc -- that can be easily udpated by adding categories or photos via a browser-interaction window...without re-doing hard-coding?
[22:39] <rysiek|pl> drupal + gallerix?
[22:39] <rysiek|pl> probably there are simpler options, though
[22:39] <rysiek|pl> I'd ask google
[22:41] <davidjheinrich> rysiek|pl, I'd like to use this gallery script for my images: rysiek|pl
[22:42] <davidjheinrich> http://www.outcut.de/MooFlow/example-json.html
[22:42] <rysiek|pl> davidjheinrich: well, use it, then?
[22:43] <davidjheinrich> yea, but how to change / add to it so like Tabblo or Flickr...I don't want to have to hard-code in images every time I udpate it. I want it to interact with me
[22:43] <rysiek|pl> davidjheinrich: I think you're on a wrong channel with that question
[22:44] <davidjheinrich> rysiek|pl, any suggestions on where to go?
[22:44] <uzman> hi
[22:45] <uzman> i have a problem
[22:45] <rysiek|pl> davidjheinrich: no idea, really. it's pretty simple, I'd use some php or whatever - try #php
[22:45] <uzman> janty is not run sound
[22:46] <uzman> i dont hear any sound my laptop
[22:46] <slow-motion> n8
[22:57] <kaddi> what, besides lm-sensors, could be used to read temperatures from my machine? lm-sensors gives me wrong results.
[22:57] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: nothing, I suppose
[22:58] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: go to lm-sensors website and read about calibration
[23:03] <Undead> Hello?
[23:03] <Undead> can anyone here help me with a wireless problem
[23:12] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: that page doesn't really help me.. it gives solutions for showing negative temperatures or too high temperatures, but I have too low positiv temperatures.. core1 supposedly has 0°C, core0 17°C
[23:12] <kaddi> fans aren't shown at all
[23:12] <rysiek|pl> and are you sure you have those sensors (core1, fans)?
[23:13] <kaddi> fans, I dont know
[23:13] <rysiek|pl> as to core0 - the solutions to too high temps are some formulas, right?
[23:13] <rysiek|pl> so you can modify the formulas to fix the too low temp
[23:13] <kaddi> but core0,1 I am sure they are there and working, as they get recognzed by speedfan under vista
[23:13] <rysiek|pl> humm
[23:14] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: no it says to switch from thermistor input to diode
[23:14] <rysiek|pl> as to core1, no idea, probably nobody got around to make a linux driver for it
[23:14] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: well, switch it anyway and see what happens
[23:14] <kaddi> and I srsly don't have a clue what that is supposed to tell me
[23:14] <rysiek|pl> me too, actually
[23:15] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: thing is: the manufacturer of your mainboard made drivers for vista
[23:15] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: but he ignored linux, apparently;
[23:15] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: and nobody has written the drivers for linux for your mobo's sensors
[23:16] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: you can either google for it (something like <your_mobo_model> sensors linux)
[23:16] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: and/or write to the manufacturer to do something about it
[23:16] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: quite possible
[23:16] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: when enough people write, we'll all get the drivers
[23:16] <kaddi> :)
[23:19] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: can you help me out once more, I don't really know what motherboard I have. :/ I'm a noob at this. I have a travelmate 6492
[23:19] <kaddi> the factsheet is here: http://us.acer.com/acer-v2/datasheet.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=en&sp=page17e&ctx2.c2att1=0&CountryISOCtxParam=US&ctx1g.c2att92=145&kcond65e.c2att101=29169&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=3291878680
[23:19] <ubuntu> Please help. I had two drives, master and slave. I used to dual boot.  The one that held my windows partition kicked the bucket this AM.  I've pulled both drives reset jumpers put the good one with all my linux files (still there) back in.  I just cant boot.  Grub error 22.
[23:19] <kaddi> is this the motherboard, or the chipset for the motherboard: Mobile Intel® GM965 Express Chipset, supporting Intel® Active Management Technology (AMT) 2.5
[23:19] <kaddi> ?
[23:20] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: that's just the chipset, you need the mobo's manufacturer
[23:20] <ubuntu> can i fix or remake the boot loader or reinstall kubuntu without losing my ~home files
[23:20] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: boot a livecd
[23:20] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: you'll be able to fix grub from there
[23:20] <ubuntu> thats what im on now
[23:21] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: just search for your laptop model then :)
[23:21] <geothom> hello everybody
[23:21] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: gimme a sec
[23:21] <ubuntu> how do i fix grub...?  also i can't remember if this drive was formally the slave or th master drive.   Maybe grub was on the windows one.  IDK
[23:22] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: gimme a sec
[23:23] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:24] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: it's a little work, but you can salvage grub without reinstalling the system
[23:24] <ubuntu> okay i'll have a look and report back if there's a question
[23:24] <rysiek|pl> sure
[23:25] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: ok, I'm not good at this, so please excuse if this is stupid: I have been here earlier about freezes (like a year ago) somebody told me to blacklist acer_wmi, might that be the driver that I need for sensors to work?
[23:25] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: no idea, really
[23:26] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: I removed it from the blacklist and tried starting it with modprobe acer_wmi, but I get an error: FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi (/lib/modules/2.6.30-020630rc6-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/acer-wmi.ko): Operation not permitted
[23:26] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: sudo modprobe acer_wmi
[23:26] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: to load a kernel module you have to have root privs
[23:26] <mirko_> ciao a tutti
[23:27] <rysiek|pl> kaddi: btw, have you done sudo sensors-detect?
[23:27] <pm2> Is there any special setup I need to do to enable DVD video playback on Kubuntu 9.04, or is it supposed to work out of the box?
[23:27] <geothom> Google chrome OS is coming soon to hit Win$7
[23:28] <rysiek|pl> pm2: probably you need: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:28] <kaddi> rysiek|pl: yes, it detects Chip `Intel Core family thermal sensor' (confidence: 9) and says to load "coretemp", which I did with modprobe (no sudo)
[23:28] <kgee> geothom: Do you know if google chrome os uses X for its frontend? I've gotten mixed answers
[23:28] <rysiek|pl> kgee: nobody knows, but most probably yes
[23:29] <kgee> rysiek|pl: I have mixed feelings about that. I was kinda hoping for something new. Good to know its still in the realm of speculation though
[23:29] <pm2> rysiek|pl: ok, I did that... what program would you recommend using to play dvds?
[23:29] <rysiek|pl> kgee: I'd rather see some serious effort at fixing X, then at re-inventing the wheel
[23:30] <rysiek|pl> pm2: on KDE4 probably DragonPlayer
[23:30] <rysiek|pl> pm2: or whatever it's called
[23:30] <rysiek|pl> pm2: also, try VideoLAN Player (VLC)
[23:30] <rysiek|pl> pm2: I always used Kaffeine, but I sit on KDE3.5.x
[23:30] <rysiek|pl> kgee: I heard Moblin uses X, but without root privs
[23:31] <rysiek|pl> that's a start
[23:31] <phh> rysiek|pl: *for google OS*, as everything will go through the browser anyway, it could be useful
[23:31] <kgee> rysiek|pl: Google is more likely to reinvent the wheel than make all the much-needed corrections, imho. I have a feeling if they use X they will use it as-is. if they make something different, it might be an improvement. Just my $0.02
[23:31] <phh> but i think that if they do, they will run into big troubles about performance issues
[23:31] <rysiek|pl> you are prolly right
[23:31] <david__> need help ubuntu wont boot
[23:31] <rysiek|pl> phh: not neccessarily
[23:32] <phh> rysiek|pl: uh ?
[23:32] <rysiek|pl> xorg got a whole lot better during last 2 years
[23:32] <phh> rysiek|pl: I mean if they *don't* use Xorg they will have problem
[23:32] <rysiek|pl> ah
[23:32] <rysiek|pl> right
[23:32] <phh> because they won't have accelerated drivers
[23:32] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I agree
[23:33] <phh> unless mmm
[23:34] <phh> yep, they could use something based on EGL, and pushing constructors release such drivers
[23:40] <Undead> help
[23:41] <kaddi> Undead please state your problem, otherwise nobody can help you
[23:41] <Undead> Sorry
[23:41] <Undead> im having a wireless problem
[23:41] <Undead> with my laptop
[23:42] <Undead> hello
[23:42] <phh> Undead: that's not really "stating your problem"
[23:43] <Undead> ok
[23:43] <Undead> Im using Kubuntu
[23:43] <Undead> its a fresh install
[23:43] <phh> without more details, we can give hum.. thousands différents answers
[23:43] <Undead> was using ubuntu
[23:43] <Undead> but had graphics problems
[23:43] <Undead> now my wireless wont connect
[23:43] <Undead> it sees my network
[23:43] <Undead> but it just asks for my wep key every 40 seconds
[23:44] <Undead> it worked fine on ubuntu
[23:44] <kaddi> Undead: you switched from ubuntu to kubuntu? open a terminal and type "nm-applet", you should get the same networkmanager you had with ubuntu. see if you can connect with it
[23:45] <Undead> not installed
[23:45] <Undead> is there a way to download the file and install it with usb?
[23:46] <kaddi> what are you using to connect to the internet? knetworkmanager? or the network-applet?
[23:47] <Undead> umm
[23:47] <Undead> it shows up as Network Manager .7 in hardware
[23:50] <kaddi> Undead type "knetworkmanager" into your commandline, does it recognize the command?
[23:50] <Undead> it doesnt
[23:50] <kaddi> ok
[23:51] <Byron> bazhang: I'm doing the install again.
[23:51] <Byron> LAMP, Mail and OpenSSH server options have been chosen.
[23:53] <kaddi> Undead if you still have your live-cd you should be able to install nm-applet from there, otherwise you can check out the name of the package in your ubuntu install
[23:53] <kaddi> and go to this site: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to download the package from another machine
[23:53] <kaddi> copy the packages onto your system and install them using dpkg -i
[23:55] <Undead> ok
[23:55] <Undead> ill try that
[23:56] <kaddi> Undead if you don't have any luck with nm-applet either, try installing wicd, this is alternative networkmanager, which has been working great for me so far
[23:56] <Undead> ok
[23:56] <Undead> well
[23:56] <kaddi> wicd will uninstall networkmanager though, you can't have both, they are incompatible
[23:56] <Undead> i tried that
[23:56] <Undead> and when i went to install
[23:57] <Undead> it had an error
[23:57] <kaddi> what had an error?
[23:57] <Undead> the installer
[23:57] <kaddi> of what?
[23:57] <Undead> h/o
[23:57] <kaddi> what?
[23:57] <kaddi> how was the program called you could not install?
[23:58] <Undead> ok
[23:58] <Undead> i click on the wicd deb file
[23:58] <kaddi> ok
[23:58] <kaddi> so you tried installing wicd
[23:58] <Undead> and kpackagekit says "sorry, an error occured"
[23:58] <kaddi> and what message did it give you?
[23:58] <kaddi> do you still have the package?
[23:58] <kaddi> where did you get it?
[23:58] <Undead> i still have the deb file yea
[23:59] <Undead> launchpadillibrarian
[23:59] <Undead> spelling*
[23:59] <Undead> should i dl it again from a different site?