/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/07/09/#launchpad-meeting.txt

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Ursinha#startmeeting16:00
UrsinhaWelcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.16:00
MootBotMeeting started at 10:00. The chair is Ursinha.16:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]16:00
Ursinha[TOPIC] Roll Call16:00
UrsinhaApologies from matsubara, he's on leave today16:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Roll Call16:00
bigjoolsme16:01
flacosteme16:01
sinzuime16:01
Ursinhame16:01
Ursinhaof course16:01
Ursinharockstar, hi16:01
allenapme16:01
herbme16:01
rockstarni!16:01
Ursinhahahaha16:01
Ursinhahenninge, hi!16:01
henningehi Ursinha!16:01
henningemi16:01
stubmoo16:01
Ursinhaso we're all here16:02
Ursinha[TOPIC] Agenda16:02
Ursinha * Actions from last meeting16:02
Ursinha * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts16:02
Ursinha * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)16:02
Ursinha * DBA report (stub)16:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda16:02
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting16:02
Ursinhaall items are okay, moving on16:02
MootBotNew Topic:  * Actions from last meeting16:02
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts16:03
Ursinhawe're also now going to talk about the scripts that are broken in this section16:03
Ursinhawe want to make sure that these errors are tracked and solved16:03
MootBotNew Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts16:03
UrsinhaI have five bugs, one critical bug and two broken scripts16:03
Ursinha* OOPS report16:03
Ursinhasinzui, I have bug 396585 and bug 396383, maybe they can be fixed together?16:03
Ursinhaflacoste, bug 397224 and bug 373837, this last one is targeted to 2.2.616:03
Ursinhasince, we had some DisconnectionError oopses yesterday, I decided to mention the bug here16:03
Ursinharockstar, could you set the importance on bug 397220, please?16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396585 in launchpad-registry "/projects/+review-licenses OOPSes with subscription date" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39658516:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396383 in launchpad-foundations "date widget could be smarter, giving a date in format DDMMYYYY OOPSes" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39638316:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 397224 in launchpad-foundations "TraversalError in person page accessing openid_identity_url" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39722416:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 373837 in launchpad-foundations "DisconnectionError should log a soft OOPS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37383716:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 397220 in launchpad-code "Better validation for project field in new code import form" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39722016:03
Ursinhathanks ubottu16:04
Ursinhathe ones for sinzui matsubara asked me to mention16:05
sinzuiUrsinha: I am not sure about either of these16:05
sinzuiUrsinha: the issue is somewhat deep. A foundational widget and the fact that we stupidly design schemes to use datetime stamps that no human will ever enter16:06
flacosteUrsinha: the DisconnectionError soft oops, i'll move to 2.2.7 and see if we have time to fix it, the other one, i don't understand16:07
flacosteUrsinha: i'll have a look at it and triage16:07
sinzuiUrsinha: there are a few bugs open about the datetime stamps. I think all of those should be worked on. It is database work. I do not want to engage in that level of work for the next 3 months16:07
Ursinhasinzui, right16:07
Ursinhaflacoste, thanks16:07
Ursinha[action] flacoste to take a look and triage bug 37383716:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 373837 in launchpad-foundations "DisconnectionError should log a soft OOPS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37383716:08
MootBotACTION received:  flacoste to take a look and triage bug 37383716:08
sinzuiUrsinha: The Launchpad date widget could be smarter. (which is why I changed the title) Note that the page that error came from has a date picker and states the expected format16:08
Ursinhasinzui, indeed16:09
Ursinhaflacoste, and about the other one, the TraversalError one?16:09
flacosteUrsinha: that's the one i'm going to look and triage16:09
Ursinhaflacoste, oh, I thought that would be the other one16:10
flacosteUrsinha: the other one, I'm moving milestone and we'll see if we have time to fix it16:10
sinzuiUrsinha: so I think the oops is rightly classified as low. I'll look into fixing the date widget for another bug though, There are use cases where the default is the current date. The widget should show that16:10
flacosteUrsinha: any particular reason to bring it here?16:10
Ursinha[action] flacoste to take a look and triage bug 397224 and will move bug 373837 to 2.2.7 and see if it's possible to fix16:10
MootBotACTION received:  flacoste to take a look and triage bug 397224 and will move bug 373837 to 2.2.7 and see if it's possible to fix16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 397224 in launchpad-foundations "TraversalError in person page accessing openid_identity_url" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39722416:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 373837 in launchpad-foundations "DisconnectionError should log a soft OOPS" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37383716:10
Ursinhaflacoste, we had some DisconnectionErrors yesterday and I saw this bug was targeted to an old milestone16:11
flacostewell, that's unrelated :-)16:11
Ursinhaand it's a high bug16:11
flacostewell, foundations have a lot of High bugs unfortunately :-(16:11
Ursinhaflacoste, I know :(16:12
bigjoolsyou need a High High :)16:12
flacosteit's called Critical16:12
bigjoolsno, it's somewhere between!16:12
flacosteno, no16:12
Ursinharockstar, hi :) can you set the importance in that bug, please?16:12
flacostebigjools: there is critical, assigned High bugs and unassigned High bugs16:12
UrsinhaI agree with flacoste16:12
flacosteUrsinha: so the DisconnetionError the 373837 bug are talking about are the ojnes we recover from16:13
flacosteUrsinha: when you see them on the OOPS report, we didn't recover from it16:13
Ursinhaflacoste, hm, I see16:13
Ursinhathe ones we didn't recover, do we know why?16:14
flacosteOOPS?16:14
flacoste(i didn't look)16:15
Ursinhaflacoste, fetching one16:15
Ursinhaflacoste, OOPS-1285J11216:15
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1285J11216:15
* Ursinha pokes the hell out of rockstar 16:16
rockstarUrsinha, sorry.16:17
rockstarUrsinha, I had done it when you asked.16:17
Ursinhasinzui, I'll make notes in the bugs then (if you didn't already - you're too fast :))16:17
Ursinharockstar, thanks man16:17
flacosteUrsinha: that disconnection error is weird16:17
flacosteUrsinha: please file a bug about it16:17
Ursinhadon't go away, I have one critical bug for you16:17
Ursinhaflacoste, I will16:17
Ursinha[action] Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1285J112 and tell flacoste16:18
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1285J11216:18
MootBotACTION received:  Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1285J112 and tell flacoste16:18
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1285J11216:18
Ursinharight16:18
Ursinhanow I have one critical bug, that's code's16:18
rockstarUrsinha, is it the ACF one?16:18
Ursinha* Critical bugs16:18
Ursinharockstar, bug 390563 is critical but has no activity since 06-29, is it really critical16:18
Ursinhatried to ask thumper yesterday about it but he was already gone, could you check this one with your team, please?16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 390563 in bzr "absent factory exception from smart server when streaming 2a stacked branches" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39056316:18
UrsinhaI guess so16:19
* Ursinha looks16:19
Ursinhaafter guessing what ACF means :)16:19
sinzuiUrsinha, flacoste: the datetime widget bug (while real) is not the bug in the oops as I read it. The restful marshaller expects a string, but the JSON serialized the numbers as numbers.16:19
rockstarUrsinha, there have been multiple team discussions about it.16:19
Ursinharockstar, is that bug really critical?16:19
sinzui^ We should probably add that as an expected exception to let standard error messaging handle the issue16:20
Ursinhasinzui, you may want to comment in the bug about it16:21
rockstarUrsinha, so, yes, it's really critical, but we're dependent on bzr fixing it.16:21
rockstarUrsinha, we may downgrade it for the sake of not misusing Critical.  We're still discussing it.16:22
Ursinharockstar, I'm going to write this in the bug, so anyone that reads the bug report will know what's going on16:22
Ursinharockstar, can you update the bug as soon as you have news, pretty please?16:23
rockstarUrsinha, will do.16:23
Ursinhathanks a lot rockstar16:23
Ursinhasinzui, do you want me to do something in that bug?16:27
Ursinhaor maybe you want to discuss later16:27
sinzuiI just updated it. It is an easy fix that I will make today since I have the file open16:27
Ursinhasinzui, great, thanks a lot16:27
* sinzui just needs to workout where the bug really belongs? launchpad-foundation or lazr.restful16:28
flacosteleave it in foundations for now16:28
Ursinhalet me just introduce the broken scripts we have, one seems to be yours sinzui16:29
Ursinhasinzui, productreleasefinder is having issues for quite some time, it's bug 39439116:29
Ursinhacould you take a look at this one? maybe change the importance16:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394391 in launchpad-registry "product-release-finder should make sane milestone names" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39439116:29
Ursinhaalso, I see that language-pack-exporter also failed to run, herb, henninge, do you know if that was expected?16:29
henningeI don't.16:30
sinzuiUrsinha: I know how to fix that, and 3 other bugs. I am working on that on my own time16:30
herbI don't know either.16:30
henningeUrsinha: but it is a pretty long running script.16:30
henningeUrsinha: which run was it? when?16:30
sinzuiUrsinha: I'm not certain it is not more important since it have been broken for 4 years and no one reported the bug before me16:31
henningeIt is not uncommon for the script to be interrupted.16:31
Ursinhahenninge, quoting the email: between 2009-07-07 17:00:04 and 2009-07-08 13:00:0416:31
sinzuiUrsinha: but in the big picture, fixing 99% of all product-release-finder errors is a big win for me so I have started a plan to fix the bugs16:32
Ursinhasinzui, I see16:32
* henninge just realizes he doesn't know the current schedule for that script.16:32
Ursinhasinzui, well, I think the important is that it's being fixed, not abandoned16:33
Ursinhathat's what I'm trying to achieve mentioning them16:34
sinzuiUrsinha: My team closed more than 40 low bugs last release. This is not forgotten there is a 30 point story attached to these PRF bugs16:34
henningeUrsinha: But really that script is monitored by the Ubuntu guys and they complain if they miss a language pack ...16:34
Ursinhagee16:34
henningeArneGoetje to be exact.16:34
Ursinhahenninge, monitored or maintained?16:35
herbl-p-e runs every monday,tuesday,thursday friday16:35
herb@2200 BST16:35
herbmon,fri for jaunty16:35
herbtue for intrepid16:35
henningeherb: ah, was gonna ask that16:35
herbthur for hardy16:35
Ursinhaherb, thanks for the info16:36
* Ursinha took notes16:36
henningeUrsinha: so that is that was the intrepid run failing. Not critical.16:36
herbthe monday run finished at 0310 UTC on Tuesday16:36
Ursinhasinzui, thanks for that16:36
Ursinhahenninge, right. if that keeps happening may I poke you? :)16:36
herband it does look like intrepid was the one the failed16:37
henningeUrsinha: you may :)16:37
herbbut it ran successfully the previous week.16:37
* henninge looks forward to being poked by Ursinha because it will definietly happen ...16:37
Ursinha[action] Ursinha to watch the lang-pack-exporter script and poke henninge if it fails again16:38
MootBotACTION received:  Ursinha to watch the lang-pack-exporter script and poke henninge if it fails again16:38
Ursinhawell, let's move on16:38
Ursinhathank you all guys16:38
Ursinha[TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)16:38
MootBotNew Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)16:38
herb2009-07-02 - Cherry picked r8700 to the scripts server.16:38
herb2009-07-07 - Cherry picked r8766 to the scripts server.16:38
herb2009-07-07 - Cherry picked r8729 to the importd slaves.16:38
herbOther than these it's been a quiet week. No service interruptions, a handful of minor incidents reported and no outstanding cherry pick or query requests.16:38
Ursinhaherb, that's good to hear16:39
Ursinhadoes anyone have anything for herb?16:39
Ursinhahmm16:39
Ursinhamoving on then :)16:40
Ursinha[TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)16:40
MootBotNew Topic:  * DBA report (stub)16:40
stubA few accounts had to be repaired, fallout from the dodgy data repair work performed last week. These gave me more clues to track down some unreported ones, which have also been fixed. Hopefully everything is correct now.16:40
stubWe will be testing the person pruner on staging, which should remove 90% of our Person records (which we can do because Account was split out of Person). When we run on production, it should have positive benefits throughout launchpad. The ValidPerson*Cache and TeamParticipation tables will shrink too, so three of our most common tables to join with will be much smaller. And lots of namespace will be freed up too.16:40
stubNot much in the way of db patches this cycle. Should have reviews all sorted and things ready to land tomorrow.16:40
stuboot.16:40
Ursinhastub, do you know if all accounts that were reporting problems on feedback@ were fixed?16:41
stubAll that have been forwarded to me have been fixed.16:41
stubI don't personally monitor feedback@16:41
Ursinhaokay, I'll check if there's any outstanding one16:41
Ursinhathanks stub16:42
Ursinha[action] Ursinha to check if all accounts requesting fix on feedback@ were fixed16:42
MootBotACTION received:  Ursinha to check if all accounts requesting fix on feedback@ were fixed16:42
Ursinhaanything else for stub?16:42
Ursinhaor16:42
Ursinhaanything else at all?16:42
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UrsinhaThank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.16:43
Ursinha#endmeeting16:43
MootBotMeeting finished at 10:43.16:43
Ursinhathanks a lot guys16:43
herbthanks Ursinha16:43
allenapUrsinha: Dammit, I had to go out for 1 minute and I missed the anything else bit! Rats :)16:45
allenapI'll email the ml/16:45
Ursinhaallenap, oops :)16:45
allenapUrsinha: Yep, my bad.16:45
Ursinhaallenap, I should've poked you, sorry16:45
allenapUrsinha: No worries, I should have paid more attention.16:46
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