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c_kornhello, can some opera user confirm bug 396081?00:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396081 in launchpad "[Opera 9.64] Some icons are not centered vertically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39608100:13
jkimball4Can I get my account deleted, please?00:18
jkimball4I no longer use it.  Would like to get it closed.00:18
Ursinhajkimball4, you can disable it in your profile00:19
jkimball4Okay, i'll take a look.  I read that I had to get an admin to delete it.00:19
mwhudsonif you can still access it, you can disable it yourself00:20
jkimball4Done and Done.  Thanks chaps00:21
wgrantAmpelbein: Security uploads don't show up because they are actually uploaded to the ~ubuntu-security P3A, which you can't see. They're then copied into Ubuntu, which doesn't generate an upload record yet.00:27
thumpermwhudson: the wine import...01:23
thumpermwhudson: was it started before our re-roll?01:23
thumpermwhudson: the start time of 47 hours ago seems too far back01:24
thumperfinished 13 hours ago taking 34 hours01:24
mwhudsonoh maybe01:27
mwhudsoni think i approved it just after tom told us the rollout was complete01:28
mwhudsonbut maybe it was before indeed01:28
mwhudsoni can check, i guess01:29
mwhudsonthumper: yeah, no saved db for that import01:31
mwhudsonthumper: i deleted the so far imported branch01:32
wgrantIs a branch disk size indicator going to be showing up at some point soon?01:40
lifelessIs there a bug open?01:41
wgrantI think so.01:41
wgrantI remember it being active recently.01:41
wgrantI'll see if I can track it down...01:41
wgrantAh, yes, bug #35003101:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 350031 in launchpad-code "For a branch, display the size on disk " [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35003101:42
wgrantApparently mwhudson was working on it last month.01:42
mwhudsonprobably not super soon01:46
mwhudsonalthough it's probably not that much work...01:46
GatoLokohi02:50
GatoLokolaunchpad is giving me an error message that seems like i'm a launchpad beta testes, but i'm not, is this something known?02:53
micahgGatoLoko: what is the error message?02:53
GatoLokoOur edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection.02:54
micahgah02:54
micahgdid you go to edge.launchapd.net?02:54
micahg*launchpad02:54
GatoLokonop, i was trying to load https://launchpad.net/~locoteams02:54
micahghmm02:54
GatoLokoopened a new tab on firefox, copypasted the url and there was a timeout error with that message02:55
micahghmmm02:55
micahgI didn't get that timeout error but another one02:55
GatoLokoi even checked that i'm not a beta tester team member02:56
GatoLokoi though maybe there was an error and something/somebody added me to the team02:56
GatoLokobut i don't appear on the team member list02:56
GatoLokoreloading the same url works now, but it was weird02:58
GatoLokoxD02:58
micahgI don't know02:58
micahganyone else have any ideas?02:58
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poolieGatoLoko: what's your launchpad id? GatoLoko?03:26
poolieit does seem kind of slow at the moment03:26
GatoLokohttps://launchpad.net/~gatoloko  <-- i'm this ugly guy03:27
GatoLokoxD03:27
pooliedo you still have that tab with the erorr open?03:28
poolieif so, filea  bug with the screenshot03:28
GatoLokoi reloaded it a while ago and it worked03:29
GatoLokoif it happens again a will report it03:29
cellofellowis there an IDE with comprehensive LaunchPad integration? The bzr, the bugs, the blueprints, the branches, the whole nine yards?06:43
nfilushello10:00
nfilushow can I speedup the review of uploaded messages.pot?10:01
wi_nki haven't received my ubuntu cd. why? how can i know what happened to it10:24
lamalexIs there a way to be notified of all changes to blueprints like I am with bugmail?10:47
intellectronicalamalex: sort of. you can get changes for a specific blueprint, but you can't do that for all the blueprints in a project, like you can with bugs10:55
lamalexthat's whack10:55
* lamalex opens bug10:55
lamalexbut searches first..10:55
intellectronicalamalex: patches welcome .... well, patches will be welcome shortly :)10:55
lamalexyah :)10:56
lamalexcan't wait10:56
lamalexword on the street is some people at GNOME are thinking of moving from bugzilla10:56
lamalexsome people have been talking to them about how awesome LP is at GCDS and a bunch of people are really hyped on it10:56
mwhudsoncool :)10:57
lamalexI KNOW10:57
mwhudsonstill unlikely though10:57
mwhudsoni'd say10:57
lamalexhey10:57
lamalexdont rain on my parade10:57
mwhudson:)10:57
lamalexlet me dream10:57
mwhudsonthough if people get enthusiastic and fix blueprints for us, that would be awesome :)10:57
* mwhudson wanders off10:58
lamalexwhats the release date? late july?10:58
mwhudsonyep10:58
mwhudson(barring technical glitches)10:59
lamalexradical11:00
lamalexalthough I'm /really/ bummed that codehosting will not be part of it11:00
lamalexthat integration is one of the most excellent parts of the service, so I understand canonicals desire to protect it..11:01
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lamalexHi, I'm trying to upgrade our LP bzr repo's format to 1.6.1-rich-root12:22
lamalexI did the converstion locally and am trying to do bzr push --overwrite12:22
lamalexbut it fails12:22
lamalexdo I /need/ to do this over the network?12:23
spivlamalex: yes, or at least remove the .bzr directory over sftp (the lftp client is good for that) and push --use-existing-dir13:00
spivlamalex: --overwrite won't overwrite formats, it's purely about overwriting one history with another.13:01
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lamalexspiv: ahh, wish I had known before I ran bzr check over the network13:41
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lamalexspiv: how do i connect via sftp?13:48
c_kornhello, can some opera user confirm bug 396081?13:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396081 in launchpad "[Opera 9.64] Some icons are not centered vertically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39608113:48
persiaI'm encountering another Debian Developer complaining about bug #204980 for one of their maintained packages.  Does anyone know if this is scheduled to get work in the next few months?13:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 204980 in malone "bug contacts should be able to unsubscribe from implicit subscriptions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20498013:50
barryc_korn: i'm pulling down an updated opera now.  i'll give it a shot13:50
barrypersia: i don't know for sure, but it may not be scheduled until after launchpad 3.0 is released13:57
persiabarry, I guess my question is more: "Is it on the list of stuff to be scheduled?", rather than a specific timeframe.13:58
persiaTo put it differently, should I be advising complainants that they should just unsubscribe from the packages, or that they should try submitting a patch once the code is available.13:58
barrypersia: it's definitely on our radar to give users more control over exactly what email they receive from launchpad13:59
persiaOK.  I'll pass that along.  Thanks.13:59
barrynp.  short term (i.e. next couple of months) it's best to unsubscribe14:00
lamalexanyone know how i can connect to bazaar.launchpad.net with sftp?14:00
barryabentley: ^^14:01
barrylamalex: i don't, but abentley might though he may not be actually online yet14:02
persiaI've never done it, but I thought it was just sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/foo14:03
vilaHi guys, I just created a PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~vila/+archive/ppa, uploaded a package, but when I try to install it, I get:14:06
vilaWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!14:06
vila  mydevtools14:06
c_kornbarry: thanks for confirming14:06
noodles775vila: have you added your PPA's signing key for authentication?14:06
barryc_korn: np14:06
vilalooking at http://ppa.launchpad.net/vila/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ I see a Release file but no Release.gpg file, any hint ?14:06
vilaPPA's key added and checked with sudo apt-key list14:07
vilasudo apt-get update ran too14:07
barryvila: take a look at this page: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA14:07
barryvila: scroll down to the sections on adding the ppa keys14:08
noodles775Hmm... that's strange... (barry, afaiu vila has already done that?)14:08
vilascolling up the already opened page :)14:08
james_wyeah, he has added the key14:08
barryvila, noodles775 ah14:08
james_w(I've just been trying to debug it with him elsewhere)14:08
barryjames_w: gotcha14:09
noodles775Hmm... so perhaps there's a delay publishing the signing key to the archive?14:09
noodles775cprov ^^^^14:09
noodles775(calling in the big-guns ;) )14:09
vila5703355D is the key fwiw14:09
barrynoodles775: :)14:09
* cprov checks14:09
vilabarry is not ? One more dream down the drain :-)14:09
* vila hugs barry :)14:10
* barry hugs vila and thanks him for boosting his ego :)14:10
vilaJust for my own curiosity, should there be a Release.gpg at http://ppa.launchpad.net/vila/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ or am I climbing the wrong tree ?14:12
cprovvila: the key generation took a little longer that it should -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~vila/+archive/ppa14:12
cprovvila: you have to modify your PPA to trigger the repository re-publication.14:12
vilawhat kind of modification ? Uploading a new package ?14:13
cprovvila: yes, the Release.gpg should be there.14:13
noodles775ah, so the packages were published *before* the key had been generated? That makes sense...14:13
cprovvila: deletion, copies, new upload14:13
vilacprov: ok14:13
abentleylamalex: Well, you launch and sftp client, and provide bazaar.launchpad.net as the hostname.14:19
abentleylamalex: hitchhiker, lftp and the commandline sftp client all seem to work.14:19
lamalexabentley: i can do tha tmuch, but how to i get to my projects directory?14:19
abentleylamalex: cd /~lamalex/project/branch14:20
lamalexit ust sits at [Connecting...]14:20
abentleylamalex: lftp?14:21
cprovvila: you've just won your signed PPA.14:21
lamalexabentley: yah14:21
vilacprov: seen that, was waiting for a successful install before reporting :)14:21
vilawow, the package has the ubuntu icon in front of it under synaptic ???14:22
abentleylamalex: Try starting it in the project directory: "lftp sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lamalex/project/branch"14:22
vilacprov, james_w , barry , noodles775 : install successful, mission accomplished, thanks all, you resume you usual schedule14:23
noodles775yay... good to hear vila :)14:23
cprovvila: ehe, nice one!14:23
barryvila: i am the help contact today, so i am totally laser focused on your wishes and desires :)14:23
abentleylamalex: lftp does not default to sftp, so you must specify sftp:// when connecting.14:24
lamalexabentley: [Delaying before reconnect: 25]14:24
abentleylamalex: Does bzr work for you?14:25
lamalexabentley: yah14:25
abentleylamalex: That's output from "lftp sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lamalex/project/branch" ?14:26
vilabarry: hehe, ok, a quick question then: now that my immensely mature package has reached 2.0.0, can I just delete it in the PPA and start again with a modest 0.0.1 or is it too late ? (Half serious question, if you don't know, just ignore me :)14:26
lamalexabentley: yah14:26
barryvila: i'd never ignore you, but i don't actually know ;)14:27
abentleylamalex: Can I suggest trying hitchhiker instead?  I don't know why lftp wouldn't work for you, but hitchhiker will work anywhere bzr does.14:27
lamalexabentley: lftp sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~do-plugins/do-plugins/trunk14:27
lamalexabentley: can you give me a link to hitchhiker?14:28
lamalexdoesn't appear to be in the repo14:28
vilabarry: ok, great. Have a nice help day !14:28
abentleylamalex: lp:hitchhiker14:28
persiavila, You can't.  versions must always increase, even after deletion.14:28
lamalexabentley: heh, too easy..14:28
barryvila: you too!14:28
vilapersia: Thanks !14:28
abentleylamalex: btw, why do you want sftp access?14:29
lamalexabentley: i need to mv our .bzr directory14:29
lamalexSo I can push one with an upgraded format14:30
lamalex/would/ have been faster than upgrading via the network14:30
lamalexbut I spent so much time trying tofigure out how that idk if it was faster14:30
abentleylamalex: Upgrading via the network is done on the server side.14:30
lamalexso you think that would just be better?14:31
abentleylamalex: There are only a few permitted filenames: ".bzr" "backup.bzr" and ".bzr.backup", so you'll need to mv to one of those.14:31
abentleylamalex: Depending on the kind of upgrade, probably not.14:32
lamalexwe're going to 1.6.1-rich-root14:32
abentleylamalex: from rich-root-pack, it might be faster to upgrade directly.  From pack-0.92, it definitely won't be.14:34
lamalexabentley: yah, i'ts an old format14:34
lamalexI think pushing from a locally upgraded repo would be faster14:35
ftacould someone please tell me what's wrong with https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/1109028 ?14:40
bigjoolsfta: looks like it built twice and the second one failed to upload14:41
barrybigjools, fta from the log file: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "binarypackagerelease_binarypackagename_key14:41
bigjoolsyes14:41
bigjoolsnow, to work out why14:42
abentleymthaddon: I need some help running down this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/38421714:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 384217 in rosetta "subscribed to a code branch, but did not receive most updates" [Undecided,Invalid]14:42
ftabarry, bigjools: how did that happen?14:42
abentleymthaddon: Do you know how to determine the branch id from its name?14:43
bigjoolsfta: it's probably a bug in the buildd manager and it got dispatched twice14:44
bigjoolscprov can you confirm?14:44
cprovfta: let me check.14:47
cprovfta: the binaries seems to be correctly published, so it's probably a hiccup on the buildd-manager or in the script which takes builders in/out of the farm.14:50
ftanothing i should worry about then?14:50
bigjoolsno, it's built and published14:51
ftaok, thanks14:53
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lamalex.. abentley  now im getting a crash when i push15:05
abentleylamalex: Please pastebin the crash.15:05
lamalextrace fills my entire buffer and then some15:06
abentleylamalex: Even part of a traceback will be helpful.15:06
jpds.2615:07
jpdsWhoops, sorry.15:07
lamalexabentley: http://paste2.org/p/31257815:07
abentleylamalex: I suspect this is bzr trying to stack your branch on itself, because it's trunk.15:09
lamalexcan i tell it not to stack?15:09
abentleylamalex: You can try doing "bzr init nosmart+bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~do-plugins/do-plugins/trunk".  If that doesn't try to stack, then you would be able to push.15:11
lamalexabentley: still use --use-existing-dir?15:12
abentleylamalex: No, you shouldn't need that.15:12
lamalexok15:12
lamalexabentley: shouldthis be a fast operation?15:17
abentleylamalex: depends on the amount of data to be transferred.15:17
abentleylamalex: You're pushing from scratch, right?15:17
lamalexi mean the init15:17
abentleylamalex: yes, it should take a few seconds at most.15:18
lamalexinit just crashed..15:18
lamalexsame thing15:18
lamalexit's trying to stack15:18
abentleylamalex: So the most likely fix is to make this branch not the "development focus", push, and set it back.15:19
lamalexrun init again?15:21
nhandlerpersia: Remember that LP Map issue? It is more interesting than I thought. Even some direct team members don't show up on the map. However, if you goto the /+map page, *all* members, direct and indirect, show up15:21
nhandlerI'm creating the bug now15:21
abentleylamalex: no15:22
abentleylamalex: After you've make the branch not the developement focus, just push.15:22
persianhandler, That's the optimisation I mentioned before.  It's intentional behaviour.  Check the old bugs, because I think it was previously discussed.15:23
lamalexabentley: still crashes15:23
abentleylamalex: does it say it's stacking when you push?15:24
lamalexit doesnt say anything, no15:24
lamalexbut i ge the same "maximum recursion depth" error15:24
nhandlerpersia: I'm not seeing a bug about that filed against LP. Would it be filed against something else?15:25
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persianhandler, It could well be against launchpad-registry15:26
persiaAnd it could be closed.15:26
nhandlerI was looking at all bugs ever reported. I'll check -registry15:26
abentleylamalex: Did you delete the .bzr directory before pushing?15:28
lamalexabentley: in my tree?15:28
lamalexor on bazaar.launchpad.net15:29
abentleylamalex: on Launchpad.15:29
lamalexi moved it to bzr.backup15:29
lamalexit's not possible to rm a dir with hitchhiker apparently15:29
abentleylamalex: It's possible to rmtree a dir.15:29
lamalexah, didnt see that command15:29
nhandlerpersia: Bug 314238, I guess I won't file a bug15:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 314238 in launchpad-registry "team map makes browser unacceptably slow" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31423815:30
abentleylamalex: You need to delete the .bzr directory every time an attemp fails, or the half-built .bzr will frustrate further attemtps.15:30
lamalexabentley: k15:31
lamalexughh its trying to stack against the development focus15:31
abentleylamalex: That's why you need to not have a development focus.15:32
lamalexabentley: how do i not set one?15:35
lamalexthere's no blank option15:35
abentleylamalex: Go to the series which is your development focus, and set the branch name to blank.15:37
lamalexdo /what/?15:40
lamalexok, found it15:40
lamalexcomplicated15:40
* lamalex hopes15:44
lamalexwin!15:46
lamalexabentley: thanks a lot for your help15:50
lamalexseems to be working now15:50
abentleylamalex: I'm glad.  You're welcome.15:50
mthaddonabentley: did you still need help finding the branch id of a branch?16:05
abentleymthaddon: No, I was able to figure it out, thanks.16:06
mthaddoncool16:06
ftaPPA exceeded its size limit (41398.00 of 40600.00 MiB).16:18
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mxpxpodhas launchpad resumed scanning release url patterns?17:54
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james_wis the soyuz import from Debian running ok?18:20
james_whmm, maybe it's a problem with Debian actually18:21
james_wthe package is in the archive since the 7th, but LP is out of date18:23
james_whttps://edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/nagios-plugins18:23
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barrybigjools: ^^18:24
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mtaylorhey all... there's a "(community)" next to a reviewer's name on merge request review... what does it designate? It doesn't seem to be relevant to our project - or at least I don't know how any of us could be non-community19:57
barrymtaylor: do you have a link?20:01
mtaylorbarry: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dshrews/drizzle/my_dir_removal/+merge/842620:01
mtaylorbarry: you'll notice both reviewers are marked as community20:01
barrymtaylor: that's pretty interesting!  i've never seen that before.  when the antipodeans wake up we can ask them.  in the meantime, let me check the code.20:04
mtaylorbarry: silly people in other timezones...20:05
barrymtaylor: yeah!20:06
mtaylorbarry: I'm glad that it hasn't been there for years and I'm just now noticing it at least. :)20:06
barrymtaylor: or as homer might say: stupid rotating earth!20:06
mtaylordoh20:06
Ursinhalol20:06
barrymtaylor: source to the rescue!  that tag means that the person reviewing it is not a member of the default branch reviewer team20:09
barrymtaylor: i.e. not a drizzle-developer20:10
barrymtaylor: indeed brian aker does not appear to be a member of that team20:10
barryafaict20:11
barrymtaylor: basically it means it's an "unofficial" review20:11
mtaylorbarry: hrm. that's interesting. because both brian and jay are members of ~drizzle-developers (brian is the owner of the team, in fact)20:27
mtaylorbarry: bug perhaps?20:28
barrymtaylor: i think so.  i could be reading the code wrong, but it might be a bug.  jml, mwhudson, thumper are any of you awake yet?20:29
mtaylorbarry: makes sense if it's a team member/non-team-member thing20:29
barrymtaylor: yep, i think that's the basic intent.  i could be reading the team membership check wrong though.  those guys will be up and active in a few hours so we can ask them then20:31
mtaylorbarry: awesome. thanks!20:34
Kangarooodrupal doesn't want to be translated? https://translations.launchpad.net/drupal20:45
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barryKangarooo: apparently not in launchpad at least20:47
barryKangarooo: http://drupal.org/project/Translations20:48
Kangaroooubuntu is working with it also..20:48
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MrKanister1hi. I got a question regarding the python launchpad API20:57
MrKanister1oh...it's two questions :)20:58
MrKanister11. I heard about "launchpadlib" and "launchpadbugs" which should work quite different20:58
MrKanister1which of them can you recommend?20:59
dpmbarry: can you give me a hand purging the mailing list for https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-translators-leaders? It's about what I was asking you last week regarding renaming the team20:59
barrydpm: done!21:00
dpmbarry: awesome, thanks (I might ask you for another one in a few minutes)21:00
barrydpm: np21:01
barryMrKanister1: i'm not familiar with launchpadbugs21:01
barryMrKanister1: launchpadlib is the python binding we're supporting21:02
MrKanister1barry: I think launchpadbugs was created by Markus Korn and it integreates functions of it (found this: http://www.linux-archive.org/launchpad-user/140985-launchpad-api-testing.html)21:02
jpdsMrKanister1: launchpadlib.21:02
jpdsMrKanister1: I'm not sure what thekorn  is doing with it in the light of the API.21:03
MrKanister1barry, jpds: ok..thanks. Now, although digging through some pages of documentation, I don't know how to get for example the importance of a bug21:04
dpmhm, I'm trying to rename a team from 'launchpad-translators-leaders' to 'launchpad-translations-coordinators', but I get a "The name 'launchpad-translations-coordinators' has been blocked by the Launchpad administrators." error. Could anyone give me a hand on that?21:05
MrKanister1I make it to the point where I can do "bug = launchpad.bugs[1]" and can read out the title, etc, but I don't know how to get further21:05
barrydpm: you'll have to ask a losa or kiko-fud for that i think21:05
barrymthaddon, herb ^^21:06
mthaddondpm: I can take care of that for you21:06
dpmthanks barry, thanks mthaddon21:06
jpdsMrKanister1: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/annotate/head%3A/requestsync#L36421:06
mthaddondpm: can you file a quick question on LP with the request just so we can track it? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion21:07
barryMrKanister1: it may be that bug importance isn't exported yet21:08
jpdsbarry: 'tis.21:08
barryjpds: cool21:09
MrKanister1jpds: Thank you VERY much. I could not find any clue how to get information out of collections21:09
dpmmthaddon: done -> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7652321:09
barryjpds: oops, indeed.  i was looking at the wrong interface21:09
jpdsMrKanister1: No problem. We make good use of the API in ubuntu-dev-tools :)21:12
mthaddondpm: ok, that's done21:12
MrKanister1jpds: hm...maybe I should have looked in that package first...I had a look at the package "bughelpers", but it is entirely using "launchpadbugs" :/21:14
jpdsMrKanister1: Yeah, we ported everything from that and screen-scrapping to the API a while back.21:15
jpdsDoes the trick and all.21:15
MrKanister1jpds: ok. I should investigate more time in that ... Python is great :). Thanks again for pointing me to right approach21:17
dpmmthaddon: thanks a lot!, I'd like to migrate the archive from the old list, could you help me with that? -> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7652321:19
DanielSouzaI'm having problems importing code from a git repository21:19
DanielSouzahttps://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/nationbuilder/trunk21:19
DanielSouzaI think it is a bug of the importer script21:20
mthaddondpm: I thought I'd checked that and there was no mailing list configured?21:20
dpmmthaddon: I had to deactivate the old one in order to rename the team. I've just applied for the new one.21:21
mthaddonbarry: any ideas? I don't see any folder on forster's lists directory21:22
mthaddonbarry: does the mailing list get purged when we rename?21:22
barrymthaddon: we had to purge it before we renamed it, but the old archive should still exist21:23
barrymthaddon: look in archives/listname.mbox21:23
barryer21:23
barryarchives/private/listname.mbox21:23
mthaddonbarry: ok, I see it - just rename it to the new team name?21:24
barrymthaddon: there should be a listname.mbox file in that directory (yep, it's repeated).  that will serve as the input to the mhonarc command you need to run to re-import21:24
mthaddonok21:24
barrymthaddon: hang on, there's a wiki page about this21:24
mthaddonyeah, finding it now21:24
DanielSouzaI'm having problems importing code from a git repository21:24
DanielSouzahttps://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/nationbuilder/trunk21:24
DanielSouzaI think it is a bug of the importer script21:24
barryDanielSouza: let me take a look21:25
barrymthaddon: ping me if you can't find it21:25
mthaddondpm: ok, archives migrated - if you configure the mailing list now it should all just DTRT21:31
mthaddondpm: let me know if you have any issues, as typically we import the archives after the list is created whereas here we've done it before21:32
mthaddon(can just redo if we need to)21:32
DanielSouzaAlso I my having problems with the translation been waiting review for days to be imported https://translations.launchpad.net/nationbuilder/+imports21:32
* henninge looks at that21:33
henningeDanielSouza: are those files templates?21:33
DanielSouzawhat is the differnece?21:34
dpmmthaddon: awesome, thanks. Actually, the mailing list is pending approval. Is this an automatic process or does it have to be manually activated by someone?21:34
DanielSouzaall files are separated branches of the translation21:34
mthaddondpm: just approved21:35
pace_t_zuluhey guys... i'm trying to setup a launchpad project for packaging a project hosted elsewhere21:35
dpmmthaddon: thanks!21:35
pace_t_zuluthe example i'm following is chromium-browser21:35
mthaddondpm: hmm, looks like I'll need to reimport the archives - one sec21:35
dpmnp21:36
henningeDanielSouza: you mean different translation domains, therefore different templates.21:36
pace_t_zului see that the trunk can be pulled from "lp:chromium-browser"21:36
pace_t_zului see that the trunk can be pulled from "lp:chromium-browser" ... how can that be achieved for another project?21:36
henningeDanielSouza: they should be named *.pot21:36
DanielSouzaunderstood21:36
henningeDanielSouza: please read the relevant help pages21:38
henningehttps://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject21:38
henningehttps://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportPolicy21:38
mthaddondpm: ok, seems to be better now - https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-translations-coordinators/21:39
henningehttps://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportingFromBazaarBranches21:39
henningeDanielSouza: ^ if that applies21:39
henningeDanielSouza: main problem I see with your templates is that they are all in the same directory21:40
DanielSouzai have only one source code branch, but i have 4 po files, what I do?21:40
mthaddonpace_t_zulu: assign the relevant branch as a development focus for the project21:40
henningeDanielSouza: that must be because you used 4 different translation domains in your source code.21:40
pace_t_zulumthaddon: will it automatically get that new location... ie: "lp:myproject"21:41
DanielSouzatranslation domains = languages?21:41
henningeDanielSouza: it is easier to maintain if you only have one domain21:41
henningeno21:41
mthaddonpace_t_zulu: if you do that, yes21:41
henningeDanielSouza: you should familiarize yourself with gettext21:41
DanielSouzaIm newbie on that, im not a developer, i converted those files from yaml files21:41
pace_t_zulumthaddon: thank you21:41
henningeDanielSouza: RTFM still applies21:42
mthaddonpace_t_zulu: you can still reference it at the full location, lp:myproject is just a convenience shortcut for whatever is assigned development focus21:42
pace_t_zulumthaddon: what about a vcs-import ... is it ill advised to used that as the "development focus" ?21:42
henningeDanielSouza: in short: you can group your translatable strings using translation domains.21:42
pace_t_zulumthaddon: the codebase is managed by git at sourceforge right now21:42
mthaddonpace_t_zulu: er, not sure to be honest...21:43
henningeDanielSouza: but usually you use one translation domain per proejct/program21:43
pace_t_zulumthaddon: i'll stick to having a launchpad based packaging right now... that's why i was looking at chromium-browser as my example21:43
henningeDanielSouza: that is easier to maintain, especially with Launchpad uploads.21:43
dpmmthaddon: it looks good! Now if I can still steal some more of your time, I'd like to do the same for another list (purge ML, rename team, migrate archive). Here's the initial purge request -> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7652721:43
henningeDanielSouza: You should talk to the developers then why they choose to use multiple translation domains.21:44
mthaddondpm: you should be able to purge it as an admin of the team - let me know when you've done that and I'll do the rename for you21:45
dpmmthaddon: I thought it was the other way round - I can't do the purge, but I can do the rename21:45
dpmthe last time barry had to do the purge for me21:46
DanielSouzahenninge, i will try talk to then, but as everybody on the project are newbies with po files we dont to complicate it a lot21:46
mthaddonah, okay21:46
mthaddondpm: ok, purged - let me know if you can't rename21:47
henningeDanielSouza: then they need to use only one translation domain in their source code.21:47
DanielSouzawe dont use po on the translation but yaml files21:47
DanielSouzaand convert then with yml2po.sh and po2yml.sh21:48
henningeDanielSouza: ok, then check were those scripts get the 4 translation domains from. I don't know anything about yaml.21:49
pace_t_zulumthaddon: thanks for your help21:49
mthaddonsure21:50
DanielSouzahenninge, yaml is "YAML isnt Another Markup Language" its a markup language21:50
Kangarooohttps://launchpad.net/~locoteams this is not loading.. 4 or 6 days ago first time I noticed that..21:50
DanielSouzahenninge, this is the yaml files tree21:51
DanielSouzadaniel@opensuse-n1:~/Desktop/nationbuilder/config> ls -r locales/21:51
DanielSouzanotifications  menu  general  activities21:51
DanielSouzahenninge, i tried to use the convertor to create a single pot file, but it failed21:51
dpmmthaddon: yes, I could rename. could you now please approve the new ML and migrate the archive? -> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7652721:52
mthaddondpm: ok, should be all done now21:54
dpmmthaddon: brilliant, thanks a lot, Tom!21:58
mthaddonsure21:58
henningeDanielSouza: I have to go now. You will have to find somebody with experience in yml2po and acquaint yourself more with the matter to find out how to produce a single template. Upload that as a .pot file to have it approved.22:10
DanielSouzahenninge thanks for all!22:15
thumperUrsinha: pig22:16
barrythumper: hey22:26
thumperbarry: hey man22:27
thumperbarry: what's up?22:27
barrythumper: mtaylor had a question a few hours ago about the (community) tag next to a person's name in a merge proposal22:27
thumperbarry: heh22:28
barrythumper: what exactly does that mean?22:28
thumperbarry: bug22:28
barrymtaylor: ^^ :)22:28
thumperbarry: the idea is that if the review was done by a non-reviewer, it should show (community)22:28
thumperwe have brought back the "anyone can review"22:28
thumperbut wanted to somehow indicate reviews by people who are not on the review team22:28
thumpernor had been requested to review22:28
barrythumper: that's what i thought from looking at the code, but it looks like a person who is on the review team got that tag22:28
Lumierehow do you 'bzr upgrade' a branch on launchpad?22:28
thumperbarry: that bit is the bug22:29
thumperbarry: I believe abentley has landed the fix22:29
thumperbut it hasn't rolled out yet22:29
thumperedge FTW22:29
barrythumper: super.  thanks for the confirmation!22:29
thumpernp22:29
barryLumiere: have you tried just doing it?  you might have to use an sftp url, but thumper or abentley would know for sure22:30
Lumieregot it22:31
Lumierethank you22:31
Lumierehopefully it won't fail22:32
Ursinhathumper, pig was funny :P22:41
thumperUrsinha: oops, sorry, ment ping22:42
Ursinhathumper, I know :)22:42
Ursinhathumper, what's up22:42
thumperUrsinha: the critical bug isn't really critical22:42
thumperjust high22:42
thumpershould be fixed with 1.17 release of bzr22:42
Ursinhathumper, hmm, I see22:43
* Ursinha chases the bug no.22:43
Ursinhathumper, I'll change the status then22:47
thumperta22:47
Ursinhabug 39056322:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 390563 in bzr "absent factory exception from smart server when streaming 2a stacked branches" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39056322:49
Ursinhameh22:49
barryokay folks.  i done my duty so i'll see y'all tomorrow22:51
barryhappy launchpadding22:51
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kb9vqfanyone here willing/able to increase PPA space?23:05
kb9vqfhttps://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/7652623:06
kb9vqf:)23:06
mwhudsonwilling, yes23:09
mwhudsonable, no23:09
BUGabundogmb: ping do you have a minute?23:12
* kb9vqf kicks his PPA23:18
maxbkb9vqf: A temporary option for you might be to delete some superseded versions23:20
maxbuntil you can find an admin23:21
kb9vqfYeah, In know...but that takes many hours as well23:22
wgrantI thought 'many' == 1 for deletions.23:23
BUGabundoone thing I never understood: if APT is able to store several versions of a package, why won't PPAs allow it too? tech prob?23:25
wgrantBUGabundo: Why would you want to?23:25
wgrantapt will always try to upgrade to the latest.23:26
BUGabundoI know23:26
wgrantSo it doesn't really make sense to have anything but the latest, unless you keep reinstalling old ones by specifying a particular version.23:26
BUGabundobut one may want to downgrade23:26
BUGabundoand since PPAs superseed, one can't access via apt the older version23:26
BUGabundowhile they still are lodge on LP23:27
wgrantKeeping old versions around automatically would eat lots of disk space.23:27
wgrantAllowing copying of old versions back in would be confusing.23:28
BUGabundowgrant: never wanted to downgrade?23:28
BUGabundoI have. lots of times23:28
wgrantNo. I just fix the bug.23:28
BUGabundotry to get NM packages by hand23:28
BUGabundoeheheheeheheheheheh23:28
BUGabundowgrant: AAHHAHAHAHAAHAH23:28
BUGabundonot all bugs are fixed by newer versions23:29
BUGabundoat least not in a short time period23:29
Lumiereanyone who has access to bzr on lp?23:35
Lumierecause I think that my bzr upgrade on lp:gasp-lessons crashed mid-stream23:35
mtaylorbarry, thumper: cool. thanks23:38
mtaylorthumper: do you mean that I should see the fix in edge? or I should see the bug in edge?23:38
thumpermtaylor: you should see the fix in edge soon23:39
thumpermtaylor: the bug won't show on production right now23:39
mtaylorthumper: sweet. thanks23:39
thumperLumiere: the LOSAs do23:40
mthaddonLumiere: what do you need?23:41
Lumieremthaddon: I had a bzr upgrade on lp:gasp-lessons fail midstream23:44
Lumiereand I can't run it again23:44
mthaddonLumiere: what errror are you getting?23:44
Lumieret23:45
Lumiereerr /t23:45
mthaddonI'm not sure I'm following - can you paste the full output?23:46
Lumieresec23:46
Lumierehttp://paste.lisp.org/+1SAL23:47
thumpermthaddon: bzr moves the .bzr dir out of the way to backup.bzr23:47
thumpermthaddon: probably just needs backup.bzr moved to .bzr23:47
Lumiereand then if you could run the bzr upgrade it would be wonderful23:48
mthaddonthumper: yeah, that's what I thought, just wanted to check23:48
LumiereI have been having issues with my network crapping out in the middle of that cast23:48
thumperLumiere: it is normally easier to run upgrade on your local copy23:48
Lumierethumper: the problem is getting the lp one upgraded too23:48
mthaddonthumper: http://paste.lisp.org/display/83325 - looks like a different error to me?23:48
thumperLumiere: have you heard of hitchhiker?23:48
Lumiereno23:48
LumiereI have a couple remote branches that are branch version 6,23:49
Lumierebut it didn't seem to upgrade that one23:49
thumpermthaddon: I'm guessing the the existing .bzr dir might not be complete23:49
thumpermthaddon: to be save move .bzr -> .bzr.old and backup.bzr -> .bzr23:50
thumpers/save/safe/23:50
thumperLumiere: it is a bzr plugin that abentley wrote23:50
Lumierethank you for the help, I am going to grab some food23:50
thumperallows extra hacking :)23:50
Lumiereic23:50
thumpermthaddon: actually23:51
thumpermthaddon: you could just not move the backup.bzr back23:51
thumperwhich would leave a non-existant .bzr23:51
mthaddonthumper: just let me know - I see the folder here - so what should I do?23:51
thumperso a fresh push would mean Lumiere would not need to upgrade23:51
thumpermthaddon: move .bzr to .bzr.old23:51
thumpermthaddon: there shouldn't be a .bzr dir there now23:52
mthaddonthumper: isn't that going to flood subscribers?23:52
thumpermthaddon: shouldn't23:52
thumpermthaddon: as the database thinks it has a certain revision there already23:52
mthaddonthumper: seems like Lumiere has stepped away to grab some food so I don't think he can push if I do this23:53
thumperLumiere: do a `bzr push --use-existing lp:gasp-lessons`23:53
thumpermthaddon: ok, wait till he is back23:53
thumperLumiere: what version have you upgraded to locally?23:54
mthaddonthumper: bzr info seems okay on the branch - should I just try moving the old back and running bzr upgrade?23:54
thumpermthaddon: are you in the mirrored or hosted area?23:55
mthaddonpush-branches23:55
thumperok23:55
thumperthat's right23:55
thumpermthaddon: we should make sure the versions are the same23:55
thumpergoing from knits -> packs can take a while, but he only has 74 revisions, so likely to be fast no matter what23:56
mthaddonmaybe just remove backup.bzr and leave it to him?23:56
thumperthere seems to be a concurrency issue23:56
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