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micahgping hggdh02:05
pace_t_zuluhey, anyone notice that [ctrl]+[shift]+[n] in gnome-terminal to get a new terminal window results in a terminal window in the path "/" rather than "~"02:09
micahgpace_t_zulu: is that just terminal in the menu?02:10
pace_t_zulumicahg: yeah the standard terminal02:10
pace_t_zuluthe one under "Accessories"02:10
micahgnope, it drops me in my home dir02:10
micahgon Jaunyt02:10
pace_t_zulumicahg: actually... it's working for me right now ;)02:11
pace_t_zulumicahg: nm i guess02:11
pace_t_zulumicahg: thanks for checking it out though02:11
micahgnp pace_t_zulu02:11
hggdhmicahg, pong03:07
micahgsome humor for our arduous task of bug control: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/mJorERMPfl4/03:08
hggdhheh03:12
thekorngood morning06:27
dholbachgood morning06:29
billybigriggeranyone know how long after a package is built and published on launchpad how long it takes to hit the main repo?06:33
dholbachbillybigrigger: which package? which upload? you can check in LP06:35
billybigriggersauerbraten06:36
billybigriggerwas just pushed from debian06:36
billybigriggerbuilt and published a few hours ago06:36
billybigriggerand the new version isn't showing up in the main multiverse repo06:36
billybigriggerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/sauerbraten/0.0.20090504.dfsg-106:36
dholbachweird, "apt-cache show sauerbraten | grep ^Version" shows the exactly same version here06:37
dholbachmaybe you're using a mirror that is not updated yet?06:37
billybigriggerim using the main mirror for multiverse06:38
billybigriggerhaha06:38
billybigriggerall my apt sources are for jaunty06:38
billybigriggerand im running karmic06:38
billybigriggeri just noticed that06:38
billybigriggerwtf06:38
dholbachhu?!06:38
billybigriggerwtf06:39
billybigriggerLinux sally 2.6.28-11-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 02:45:36 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux06:39
dholbachcan you put up your sources.list at http://paste.ubuntu.com ?06:39
billybigriggerthis was installed from a karmic A2 cd06:39
billybigriggera2 shipped with 28-11 yeah?06:40
billybigriggerdoh06:40
billybigriggerhaha06:41
billybigriggermaybe i should be thinking about sleep and not a video game06:41
billybigriggerwas ssh'd into my 9.04 server06:41
billybigriggerno wonder i couldn't find the new package lol06:41
billybigriggersauerbraten:06:41
billybigrigger  Installed: (none)06:41
billybigrigger  Candidate: 0.0.20090504.dfsg-106:41
dholbachok06:42
billybigriggerhmm06:42
billybigriggerdepends aren't met yet06:42
billybigriggerstill waiting on sauerbraten-data06:42
billybigriggerwhich is also built and published according to LP06:42
billybigriggersauerbraten: Depends: sauerbraten-data (>= 0.0.20090504) but it is not going to be installed06:43
billybigriggerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/sauerbraten-data/0.0.20090504-106:43
dholbachmaybe it still takes a time to get into the archive06:44
dholbachno idea06:44
billybigriggerhmm must be06:44
billybigriggerwish i knew how to follow a package better06:44
billybigriggerarchive.ubuntu is the main server right?06:45
billybigriggernot us.archive.ubuntu06:45
Jeruvynot sure..06:48
dholbacharchive.ubuntu is the main one, yes06:50
dholbachI'd just wait a bit06:50
billybigriggerapt-cache show sauerbraten-data shows the new version06:51
billybigriggerapt-cache policy doesnt06:51
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bdmurraybug 39740222:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 397402 in yelp "sunny day" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39740222:40
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hggdhthat's a difficult one22:49
chrisccoulsonheh. sunny day?22:49
BUGabundolets try this again:22:49
BUGabundoola ppl22:49
BUGabundohey chrisccoulson hggdh22:49
bdmurray"sunny day" conveys a positive attitude to me22:49
hggdhola ppl22:49
hggdhs/ppl/BUGabundo/22:50
BUGabundoahahahahahaha22:51
BUGabundoogasawara: are you around? my touchpad will not work after resume (from hibernate to disk). let me file this. I'm karmic btw22:58
ogasawaraBUGabundo: yah, point me to the bug# once it's filed22:58
BUGabundook23:00
BUGabundoogasawara: side note: have you reports of exesive CPU usage? mine is almost always at 2.4GHz (tha max, being 1.2 the min)23:01
BUGabundoboth on Conservative and OnDemand23:01
BUGabundoatop only lists xorg using 20% cpu23:01
ogasawaraBUGabundo: does it result in overheating and a forced shutdown? cuz I know a bug for that one23:02
BUGabundono force shutdown so far23:02
BUGabundobut I noticed this with almost every -30/31 krnel23:02
BUGabundoit was not like this with older kernel or jaunty ones23:02
ogasawaraBUGabundo: would be great if you could pinpoint between which two kernels the regression was introduced23:03
BUGabundodarn screen. keeps flashing, going to black and coming back 2 sec latter :(23:03
ogasawaraBUGabundo: which kernel are you on?23:03
BUGabundoogasawara: no idea now!23:03
BUGabundoogasawara: latest on karmic23:03
BUGabundoLinux blubug 2.6.31-1-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 2 16:02:38 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:04
ogasawaraBUGabundo: that's not the latest, please try 2.6.31-223:04
ogasawaraBUGabundo: I saw a few resolution related bugs fixed with 2.6.31-223:04
BUGabundook23:04
BUGabundolet me check for updates23:04
BUGabundoI had all of them this after noon23:04
ogasawaraBUGabundo: probably best to test the other issues on that newer kernel too23:05
BUGabundoogasawara: I think I may have the CPU anwser23:07
BUGabundoit was also present on gutsy23:07
BUGabundoits sysmon! if I have it running it will use lots of CPU23:08
BUGabundoive removed it from the applet bar and cpu is now at  1.223:08
BUGabundolet me add it back and confirm it uses too much cpu23:08
BUGabundook that didn't work :(23:09
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ogasawaraBUGabundo: does it need a little while to spike?  maybe test leaving it removed for a while23:10
BUGabundoI added it back and CPU is low now23:11
BUGabundovery strange23:11
BUGabundoI also saw gnome DO eating a lot of cycles, but restarting it, fixed it, but cpu keept at 2.423:11
BUGabundoogasawara: $ apt-cache policy linux  Installed: 2.6.31.2.1323:13
BUGabundoogasawara: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/39762723:15
ubot4Launchpad bug 397627 in linux "touchpad will not work after hibernate/resume" [Undecided,New]23:15
BUGabundosee if it has all you need23:15
ogasawaraBUGabundo: I'll post any follow ups to the bug so it's in one central location23:15
BUGabundook23:16
BUGabundoogasawara: just see if apport hooked all logs required23:16
BUGabundoof if I need to run anything else23:16
ogasawaraBUGabundo: it did, can you quickly test with the newer 2.6.31-2 kernel as well23:16
BUGabundoogasawara: $ apt-cache policy linux  Installed: 2.6.31.2.1323:16
BUGabundoit says I have it :x23:17
ogasawaraBUGabundo: bug report says you're on 2.6.31-123:17
BUGabundoI know23:17
BUGabundoits strangte23:18
ogasawaraBUGabundo: did you reboot after installing?23:18
BUGabundoI reboot this morning into my topest kernel23:18
BUGabundolet me check if grub is up to date23:18
BUGabundoFound kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-2-generic23:18
BUGabundoFound kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-1-generic23:18
BUGabundoFound kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-10-generic23:18
BUGabundoFound kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-9-generic23:18
ogasawaraBUGabundo: what's 'uname -a' return?23:19
BUGabundo$ uname -a23:19
BUGabundoLinux blubug 2.6.31-1-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 2 16:02:38 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:19
ogasawaraBUGabundo: so looks like you're still running 2.6.31-123:19
BUGabundohumm23:19
BUGabundostrange23:19
BUGabundoI would reboot, but this takes soooooooo long23:20
BUGabundoim not one of the lucky ones with 10 sec boots!23:20
BUGabundoeheh23:20
BUGabundomine takes 1:4023:20
ogasawaraBUGabundo: well, no need to reboot now if it's not convenient.  but post an update to the bug when you do and if you can confirm it remains with the 2.6.31-2 kernel.23:20
BUGabundohttp://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/bootchart/23:21
BUGabundosame time as hardy23:21
BUGabundoogasawara: np, ill reboot in a few min23:22
BUGabundobut right now, that damn thing is quiet! LOL23:22
BUGabundomaybe its cooler now23:22
BUGabundoI really need to change my thermal paste :(23:23
ogasawaraBUGabundo: just out of curiosity, if you unload and reload the psmouse driver does that help at all?23:24
BUGabundoogasawara: how do I do that?23:25
ogasawaraBUGabundo: sudo rmmod psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse23:26
BUGabundo$ sudo rmmod psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse23:27
BUGabundo[sudo] password for bugabundo:23:27
BUGabundoWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-wlan-ng, it will be ignored in a future release.23:27
BUGabundoWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/options, it will be ignored in a future release.23:27
BUGabundoogasawara: and it works!23:27
ogasawaraBUGabundo: nice, not sure what those warnings are about23:27
BUGabundoI think its related to my webcam driver23:27
BUGabundonot sure23:28
BUGabundobut I remember seeing they appear after the new version with gspca23:28
ogasawaraBUGabundo: I think there are existing bugs regarding the touchpad issue and that workaround I mentioned23:29
ogasawaraBUGabundo: I'll see if I can find the one I'm thinking of and mark your bug as a dup23:29
BUGabundook23:29
BUGabundothanks ogasawara23:29
BUGabundoand the CPU bug?23:29
ogasawaraBUGabundo: not sure yet about the CPU bug, seems like the root cause is not yet known yet23:30
BUGabundo:(23:30
BUGabundothe stupid thing is that right now, its low, for the 1st time in two days23:30
BUGabundowith all the usual stuff I have23:31
ogasawaraBUGabundo: seems related to you removing sysmon?23:31
BUGabundoI have it back!23:32
BUGabundoI added it just to be sure if it was it, but didn't change anything23:32
BUGabundoonce it got down from 2.4 to 1.2, it stood down ogasawara23:32
BUGabundodanr23:32
BUGabundoI'm stupid!23:32
BUGabundoI had it looked on 1.223:32
BUGabundosetting on demand now23:32
BUGabundoits jumping between 1.6 and 2.423:33
BUGabundoremoving sys mon applet23:33
BUGabundo 3213   0.21s   0.20s     0K     0K     0K     0K  --   - R  20% Xorg23:33
BUGabundofrom atop23:33
BUGabundoogasawara: since we are on this: a very old bug (maybe even hardware one)23:35
BUGabundomy cdrom (dvdrw actually) driver NEVER works after suspend or hibernat23:35
BUGabundoNEVER has23:35
BUGabundoon every ubuntu version for the last 18 months23:35
BUGabundoI did file a bug, but its now lost on LP23:35
bdmurrayHow can it be lost?23:36
BUGabundobdmurray: eheh23:37
BUGabundotry finding it23:37
BUGabundoi' file sooo many bugs per cycle23:37
PiciYou should have an email that you filed it23:37
BUGabundoand LP is not easy to search, unf23:37
BUGabundoPici: I do keep all my emails23:37
BUGabundobut its like 80GiBs of it23:37
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/?field.searchtext=drive&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=bugabundo&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY23:38
BUGabundozero hits :(23:39
Picihttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348626 perhaps? (I didnt read backscroll)23:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 348626 in network-manager "SiS laptop only boots with noacpi and wifi wont work" [Undecided,Invalid]23:40
BUGabundonope23:40
BUGabundoI don't own SiS luckly23:40
BUGabundoeven dough I file several bugs about it23:40
BUGabundobut Sis doesn't support Linux all that good23:40
bdmurraybug 97387 is the closest one you've reported23:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 97387 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty] external hard drive wont be recognized after resume" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9738723:47
BUGabundonaa, its not external23:47
BUGabundoand I'm not sure i used this laptop with feisty23:47
BUGabundoI bought it in march last year23:47
BUGabundoao it only hold hardy alpha and all later versions up to karmic23:48
BUGabundonever the less the bug I just filed for touchpad is valid for the dvd drive23:50

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