[02:05] <micahg> ping hggdh
[02:09] <pace_t_zulu> hey, anyone notice that [ctrl]+[shift]+[n] in gnome-terminal to get a new terminal window results in a terminal window in the path "/" rather than "~"
[02:10] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: is that just terminal in the menu?
[02:10] <pace_t_zulu> micahg: yeah the standard terminal
[02:10] <pace_t_zulu> the one under "Accessories"
[02:10] <micahg> nope, it drops me in my home dir
[02:10] <micahg> on Jaunyt
[02:11] <pace_t_zulu> micahg: actually... it's working for me right now ;)
[02:11] <pace_t_zulu> micahg: nm i guess
[02:11] <pace_t_zulu> micahg: thanks for checking it out though
[02:11] <micahg> np pace_t_zulu
[03:07] <hggdh> micahg, pong
[03:08] <micahg> some humor for our arduous task of bug control: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/mJorERMPfl4/
[03:12] <hggdh> heh
[06:27] <thekorn> good morning
[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[06:33] <billybigrigger> anyone know how long after a package is built and published on launchpad how long it takes to hit the main repo?
[06:35] <dholbach> billybigrigger: which package? which upload? you can check in LP
[06:36] <billybigrigger> sauerbraten
[06:36] <billybigrigger> was just pushed from debian
[06:36] <billybigrigger> built and published a few hours ago
[06:36] <billybigrigger> and the new version isn't showing up in the main multiverse repo
[06:36] <billybigrigger> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/sauerbraten/0.0.20090504.dfsg-1
[06:37] <dholbach> weird, "apt-cache show sauerbraten | grep ^Version" shows the exactly same version here
[06:37] <dholbach> maybe you're using a mirror that is not updated yet?
[06:38] <billybigrigger> im using the main mirror for multiverse
[06:38] <billybigrigger> haha
[06:38] <billybigrigger> all my apt sources are for jaunty
[06:38] <billybigrigger> and im running karmic
[06:38] <billybigrigger> i just noticed that
[06:38] <billybigrigger> wtf
[06:38] <dholbach> hu?!
[06:39] <billybigrigger> wtf
[06:39] <billybigrigger> Linux sally 2.6.28-11-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 02:45:36 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:39] <dholbach> can you put up your sources.list at http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[06:39] <billybigrigger> this was installed from a karmic A2 cd
[06:40] <billybigrigger> a2 shipped with 28-11 yeah?
[06:40] <billybigrigger> doh
[06:41] <billybigrigger> haha
[06:41] <billybigrigger> maybe i should be thinking about sleep and not a video game
[06:41] <billybigrigger> was ssh'd into my 9.04 server
[06:41] <billybigrigger> no wonder i couldn't find the new package lol
[06:41] <billybigrigger> sauerbraten:
[06:41] <billybigrigger>   Installed: (none)
[06:41] <billybigrigger>   Candidate: 0.0.20090504.dfsg-1
[06:42] <dholbach> ok
[06:42] <billybigrigger> hmm
[06:42] <billybigrigger> depends aren't met yet
[06:42] <billybigrigger> still waiting on sauerbraten-data
[06:42] <billybigrigger> which is also built and published according to LP
[06:43] <billybigrigger> sauerbraten: Depends: sauerbraten-data (>= 0.0.20090504) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <billybigrigger> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/sauerbraten-data/0.0.20090504-1
[06:44] <dholbach> maybe it still takes a time to get into the archive
[06:44] <dholbach> no idea
[06:44] <billybigrigger> hmm must be
[06:44] <billybigrigger> wish i knew how to follow a package better
[06:45] <billybigrigger> archive.ubuntu is the main server right?
[06:45] <billybigrigger> not us.archive.ubuntu
[06:48] <Jeruvy> not sure..
[06:50] <dholbach> archive.ubuntu is the main one, yes
[06:50] <dholbach> I'd just wait a bit
[06:51] <billybigrigger> apt-cache show sauerbraten-data shows the new version
[06:51] <billybigrigger> apt-cache policy doesnt
[13:28] <bddebian> Boo
[22:40] <bdmurray> bug 397402
[22:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 397402 in yelp "sunny day" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397402
[22:49] <hggdh> that's a difficult one
[22:49] <chrisccoulson> heh. sunny day?
[22:49] <BUGabundo> lets try this again:
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ola ppl
[22:49] <BUGabundo> hey chrisccoulson hggdh
[22:49] <bdmurray> "sunny day" conveys a positive attitude to me
[22:49] <hggdh> ola ppl
[22:50] <hggdh> s/ppl/BUGabundo/
[22:51] <BUGabundo> ahahahahahaha
[22:58] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: are you around? my touchpad will not work after resume (from hibernate to disk). let me file this. I'm karmic btw
[22:58] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: yah, point me to the bug# once it's filed
[23:00] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:01] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: side note: have you reports of exesive CPU usage? mine is almost always at 2.4GHz (tha max, being 1.2 the min)
[23:01] <BUGabundo> both on Conservative and OnDemand
[23:01] <BUGabundo> atop only lists xorg using 20% cpu
[23:02] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: does it result in overheating and a forced shutdown? cuz I know a bug for that one
[23:02] <BUGabundo> no force shutdown so far
[23:02] <BUGabundo> but I noticed this with almost every -30/31 krnel
[23:02] <BUGabundo> it was not like this with older kernel or jaunty ones
[23:03] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: would be great if you could pinpoint between which two kernels the regression was introduced
[23:03] <BUGabundo> darn screen. keeps flashing, going to black and coming back 2 sec latter :(
[23:03] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: which kernel are you on?
[23:03] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: no idea now!
[23:03] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: latest on karmic
[23:04] <BUGabundo> Linux blubug 2.6.31-1-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 2 16:02:38 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:04] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: that's not the latest, please try 2.6.31-2
[23:04] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: I saw a few resolution related bugs fixed with 2.6.31-2
[23:04] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:04] <BUGabundo> let me check for updates
[23:04] <BUGabundo> I had all of them this after noon
[23:05] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: probably best to test the other issues on that newer kernel too
[23:07] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: I think I may have the CPU anwser
[23:07] <BUGabundo> it was also present on gutsy
[23:08] <BUGabundo> its sysmon! if I have it running it will use lots of CPU
[23:08] <BUGabundo> ive removed it from the applet bar and cpu is now at  1.2
[23:08] <BUGabundo> let me add it back and confirm it uses too much cpu
[23:09] <BUGabundo> ok that didn't work :(
[23:10] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: does it need a little while to spike?  maybe test leaving it removed for a while
[23:11] <BUGabundo> I added it back and CPU is low now
[23:11] <BUGabundo> very strange
[23:11] <BUGabundo> I also saw gnome DO eating a lot of cycles, but restarting it, fixed it, but cpu keept at 2.4
[23:13] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: $ apt-cache policy linux  Installed: 2.6.31.2.13
[23:15] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/397627
[23:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 397627 in linux "touchpad will not work after hibernate/resume" [Undecided,New]
[23:15] <BUGabundo> see if it has all you need
[23:15] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: I'll post any follow ups to the bug so it's in one central location
[23:16] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:16] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: just see if apport hooked all logs required
[23:16] <BUGabundo> of if I need to run anything else
[23:16] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: it did, can you quickly test with the newer 2.6.31-2 kernel as well
[23:16] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: $ apt-cache policy linux  Installed: 2.6.31.2.13
[23:17] <BUGabundo> it says I have it :x
[23:17] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: bug report says you're on 2.6.31-1
[23:17] <BUGabundo> I know
[23:18] <BUGabundo> its strangte
[23:18] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: did you reboot after installing?
[23:18] <BUGabundo> I reboot this morning into my topest kernel
[23:18] <BUGabundo> let me check if grub is up to date
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-2-generic
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-1-generic
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-10-generic
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-9-generic
[23:19] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: what's 'uname -a' return?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> $ uname -a
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Linux blubug 2.6.31-1-generic #14-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 2 16:02:38 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:19] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: so looks like you're still running 2.6.31-1
[23:19] <BUGabundo> humm
[23:19] <BUGabundo> strange
[23:20] <BUGabundo> I would reboot, but this takes soooooooo long
[23:20] <BUGabundo> im not one of the lucky ones with 10 sec boots!
[23:20] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:20] <BUGabundo> mine takes 1:40
[23:20] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: well, no need to reboot now if it's not convenient.  but post an update to the bug when you do and if you can confirm it remains with the 2.6.31-2 kernel.
[23:21] <BUGabundo> http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/bootchart/
[23:21] <BUGabundo> same time as hardy
[23:22] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: np, ill reboot in a few min
[23:22] <BUGabundo> but right now, that damn thing is quiet! LOL
[23:22] <BUGabundo> maybe its cooler now
[23:23] <BUGabundo> I really need to change my thermal paste :(
[23:24] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: just out of curiosity, if you unload and reload the psmouse driver does that help at all?
[23:25] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: how do I do that?
[23:26] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: sudo rmmod psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[23:27] <BUGabundo> $ sudo rmmod psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[23:27] <BUGabundo> [sudo] password for bugabundo:
[23:27] <BUGabundo> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-wlan-ng, it will be ignored in a future release.
[23:27] <BUGabundo> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/options, it will be ignored in a future release.
[23:27] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: and it works!
[23:27] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: nice, not sure what those warnings are about
[23:27] <BUGabundo> I think its related to my webcam driver
[23:28] <BUGabundo> not sure
[23:28] <BUGabundo> but I remember seeing they appear after the new version with gspca
[23:29] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: I think there are existing bugs regarding the touchpad issue and that workaround I mentioned
[23:29] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: I'll see if I can find the one I'm thinking of and mark your bug as a dup
[23:29] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:29] <BUGabundo> thanks ogasawara
[23:29] <BUGabundo> and the CPU bug?
[23:30] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: not sure yet about the CPU bug, seems like the root cause is not yet known yet
[23:30] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:30] <BUGabundo> the stupid thing is that right now, its low, for the 1st time in two days
[23:31] <BUGabundo> with all the usual stuff I have
[23:31] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: seems related to you removing sysmon?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I have it back!
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I added it just to be sure if it was it, but didn't change anything
[23:32] <BUGabundo> once it got down from 2.4 to 1.2, it stood down ogasawara
[23:32] <BUGabundo> danr
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I'm stupid!
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I had it looked on 1.2
[23:32] <BUGabundo> setting on demand now
[23:33] <BUGabundo> its jumping between 1.6 and 2.4
[23:33] <BUGabundo> removing sys mon applet
[23:33] <BUGabundo>  3213   0.21s   0.20s     0K     0K     0K     0K  --   - R  20% Xorg
[23:33] <BUGabundo> from atop
[23:35] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: since we are on this: a very old bug (maybe even hardware one)
[23:35] <BUGabundo> my cdrom (dvdrw actually) driver NEVER works after suspend or hibernat
[23:35] <BUGabundo> NEVER has
[23:35] <BUGabundo> on every ubuntu version for the last 18 months
[23:35] <BUGabundo> I did file a bug, but its now lost on LP
[23:36] <bdmurray> How can it be lost?
[23:37] <BUGabundo> bdmurray: eheh
[23:37] <BUGabundo> try finding it
[23:37] <BUGabundo> i' file sooo many bugs per cycle
[23:37] <Pici> You should have an email that you filed it
[23:37] <BUGabundo> and LP is not easy to search, unf
[23:37] <BUGabundo> Pici: I do keep all my emails
[23:37] <BUGabundo> but its like 80GiBs of it
[23:38] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/?field.searchtext=drive&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=bugabundo&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY
[23:39] <BUGabundo> zero hits :(
[23:40] <Pici> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348626 perhaps? (I didnt read backscroll)
[23:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 348626 in network-manager "SiS laptop only boots with noacpi and wifi wont work" [Undecided,Invalid]
[23:40] <BUGabundo> nope
[23:40] <BUGabundo> I don't own SiS luckly
[23:40] <BUGabundo> even dough I file several bugs about it
[23:40] <BUGabundo> but Sis doesn't support Linux all that good
[23:47] <bdmurray> bug 97387 is the closest one you've reported
[23:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 97387 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty] external hard drive wont be recognized after resume" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97387
[23:47] <BUGabundo> naa, its not external
[23:47] <BUGabundo> and I'm not sure i used this laptop with feisty
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I bought it in march last year
[23:48] <BUGabundo> ao it only hold hardy alpha and all later versions up to karmic
[23:50] <BUGabundo> never the less the bug I just filed for touchpad is valid for the dvd drive