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| slytherin | Can anyone help me with a particular question in docbook? This is not ubuntu related. | 10:08 |
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| andrew_sayers | Flannel: I've now added a page about installing Mozilla builds (FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds). I put it on a separate page because Intrepid/Hardy packages are expected. Give me a shout if you spot anything. | 10:23 |
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| Kangarooo | here is problem.. old info .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP there is no info about JJ | 21:24 |
| jpds | Kangarooo: JJ? | 21:40 |
| Kangarooo | Jaunty Jackalope | 21:46 |
| Kangarooo | jpds: how to install to 9.04 / Jaunty Jackalope / JJ | 21:47 |
| jpds | Well... someone has to edit the wiki and add it. | 21:49 |
| Kangarooo | I want to be in documentation team | 22:13 |
| Kangarooo | ask questions. finalize complete documentations. | 22:13 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Hey Avi. | 22:24 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina, Kelvin, and Avi...are we all here? | 22:30 |
| KelvinGardiner | yes | 22:31 |
| missaugustina | I am here! | 22:31 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Allo, Avi? | 22:31 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Hmm...will wait 5 minutes. | 22:32 |
| avi1 | I am here | 22:33 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Excellento! | 22:33 |
| avi1 | The window was blocked. | 22:33 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Let's get started...how is everyone today? | 22:33 |
| KelvinGardiner | Super, thanks. | 22:34 |
| missaugustina | awesome | 22:34 |
| avi1 | Tired! Thanks. | 22:35 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sorry, Avi. The time change is difficult. I managed to get out of work early today. But lets get right to it so we can get you to bed. | 22:35 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I see that you've been very busy breaking up the work load. I've been browsing the emails going back and forth. Should we start the discussion with that? | 22:35 |
| missaugustina | Sure! | 22:35 |
| avi1 | Understood! | 22:35 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I'm tracking back through my emails...give me one sec. | 22:36 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina: It appears that you go the ball rolling with the writing tasks. Did you want to take the lead on this portion of the discussion? | 22:37 |
| missaugustina | Sure I can do that | 22:38 |
| missaugustina | First off, is everyone ok with how I divided the sections? | 22:38 |
| KelvinGardiner | yes | 22:38 |
| missaugustina | The person who takes a section isn't solely responsible for writing all of the content for that section. | 22:38 |
| missaugustina | OK cool, just wanted to reiterate. | 22:39 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I think thats brilliant. It makes it easier if someone has the ultimate responsibility of making sure something is completed even when its a collaboration. | 22:39 |
| missaugustina | Avi: Have you had a chance to review your sections and decide what you would want Kelvin and I to assist with? | 22:40 |
| avi1 | I have begun that | 22:40 |
| avi1 | I may want some assistance with teh alternate CD | 22:40 |
| avi1 | and I need to check something with Wubi. | 22:41 |
| missaugustina | OK I can take on the Alternate CD | 22:41 |
| missaugustina | I've had to use it in the past | 22:41 |
| avi1 | As we discussed last week, I think there are going to be some questions that I will bring up regarding wording for the burning the ISO and partitioning, but that can be discussed as it comes up | 22:41 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Avi: How are you going to approach the CD burning? | 22:42 |
| avi1 | I think will describe the general principle and then give a procedure for burning the CD with one specific software program | 22:43 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I agree. I think that is the best course of action and in line with the guide's philosophy. | 22:43 |
| KelvinGardiner | Sounds good to me too. | 22:43 |
| missaugustina | OK so I'm working on Section A, the Intro + FAQ | 22:45 |
| missaugustina | How should our Installation Guide Intro differ from the existing Ubuntu Intro wording? | 22:45 |
| missaugustina | I'm thinking there is some wording on the main page | 22:45 |
| missaugustina | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu | 22:46 |
| missaugustina | I'm thinking for the Installation Guide, explain more about what the Installation guide will cover and assume the person already knows something about what ubuntu is? | 22:47 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Agreed. | 22:47 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | The guide is going to be accessible with the ISO download. So, I think that is a safe assumption. | 22:47 |
| missaugustina | Whoops we lost DB | 22:48 |
| missaugustina | Welcome back! | 22:48 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sorry.... | 22:48 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | What did I miss? | 22:48 |
| missaugustina | Nothing! | 22:48 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I always get the last word. | 22:49 |
| missaugustina | So for the FAQ, my next step is to put together a list of possible questions. | 22:49 |
| missaugustina | I am just going to do it brainstorm style and edit it as we go. | 22:50 |
| missaugustina | I think some of the FAQ will depend on the results of our Usability testing. | 22:50 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | This also may be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageHits. | 22:50 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina: Agreed. The usability testing will tell us a lot. | 22:50 |
| missaugustina | Ah yes I remember that page. | 22:50 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | That links takes a minute to load. | 22:50 |
| missaugustina | I will ask whoever is writing the technical session that might relate to a question to submit an answer for the FAQ. | 22:51 |
| missaugustina | Otherwise, that's all for me. Kelvin volunteered to take on C. | 22:51 |
| missaugustina | *technical section, sorry | 22:51 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | The actual installation? | 22:52 |
| KelvinGardiner | missaugustina: On your email C has the intro in. Are you doing C and I'm doing A? | 22:52 |
| missaugustina | OK, let me double check how I divided it. Sorry! | 22:53 |
| missaugustina | Oh you're right, I was backwards. | 22:54 |
| KelvinGardiner | ok. | 22:54 |
| KelvinGardiner | My plan so far. | 22:54 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | So Avi = B, Augustina = C, and Kelvin = A? | 22:55 |
| KelvinGardiner | The "what's next" will be how to install extra software, about community, how to get involved, where to get further help. It will main point to web pages. | 22:56 |
| KelvinGardiner | badenochs_ghost1: I'm doing A. | 22:56 |
| avi1 | I believe that is correct. | 22:56 |
| missaugustina | Are you ok with that Kelvin? You'd asked for C in the email thread now that I'm looking at it. | 22:56 |
| KelvinGardiner | yeah, I just pick on at random. | 22:57 |
| missaugustina | I think I saw you mentioned troubleshooting and just had it in my head you were doing A | 22:57 |
| KelvinGardiner | Not to worry. | 22:57 |
| missaugustina | OK cool, sorry, I read too fast sometimes ;) | 22:58 |
| KelvinGardiner | The trouble shooting section will have two parts. First part will be a list of links to hardware specific help pages. This is based on every problem on my macbook having a solution on the macbook wiki pages. | 22:58 |
| KelvinGardiner | The second part will address common issues, based in the wiki hits page and forum question. | 22:59 |
| KelvinGardiner | How does that sound? | 22:59 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sounds fine to me. | 22:59 |
| missaugustina | I think that sounds great. | 23:00 |
| missaugustina | Are there areas of the troubleshooting you'd currently like to delegate? | 23:00 |
| missaugustina | You can also put topics out for delegation as we proceed. | 23:00 |
| KelvinGardiner | I'll produce a list of issues over the next week and put them on the wiki. Then we can pick which ones we want to do. | 23:01 |
| missaugustina | I have the shortest 2 sections so I'm more than happy to pick up anything. | 23:02 |
| KelvinGardiner | ok | 23:03 |
| missaugustina | Avi: I can do both the Alternate CD + Wubi sections. | 23:04 |
| avi1 | I'm probably fine on the Wubi, just need to check a few things | 23:05 |
| avi1 | Alternate CD would be great. | 23:05 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina: What else do we have by way of the writing task to discuss? | 23:05 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sorry...writing tasks. | 23:06 |
| missaugustina | That's all I can think of, unless anyone else has any writing tasks to discuss? | 23:06 |
| KelvinGardiner | Where are we going to put the draft docs? | 23:07 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | KelvinGardiner: That is an excellent question. I am still new to this game. So, I don't know. | 23:07 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I haven't been able to reach Mr. Bull by email since he went on vacation. | 23:08 |
| missaugustina | Should we set up a bzr branch? | 23:08 |
| KelvinGardiner | Maybe we can have a project on LP with a bzr branch. | 23:08 |
| missaugustina | We have a group on LP, right? Should be easy to set up a group project. | 23:09 |
| KelvinGardiner | I would think so, but I've not used LP for a project. | 23:11 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I'm at launchpad now trying to figure it out. | 23:11 |
| missaugustina | https://launchpad.net/projects/+new | 23:11 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Should we do this now? | 23:12 |
| missaugustina | DB: Do you want to take this on and do it when we're done, so Avi can get some sleep? | 23:12 |
| missaugustina | I am more than happy to hang out and help | 23:12 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I think that would be nice. Will do. | 23:12 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Let's finish up our discussion and send him to bed. | 23:13 |
| avi1 | Much appreciated :-) My mother would be thrilled :-) | 23:13 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I need to address the style guide and we'll be done unless anyone else has something to discuss before I do. | 23:13 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Hearing no other topics, I've settled on the Gnome Style Guide. It seems to make the most sense for this project. In the future, there may be a more Ubuntu-centric and updated style guide. | 23:15 |
| missaugustina | What's the link for the Gnome Style Guide? | 23:15 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/ | 23:16 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Any discussion, questions, or feedback? | 23:16 |
| missaugustina | I think that sounds great. I am sure we'll have questions as we're going along ;) | 23:17 |
| avi1 | Sounds like the best option | 23:17 |
| KelvinGardiner | I'm happy to use that. | 23:18 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Wonderful. We are all set I think. If there is nothing else, let's conclude. Miss Augustina, why don't you hang out for a minute and we'll do the LP project. Good day, good evening or good night Kelvin. And to Avi, sweet dreams! | 23:19 |
| avi1 | thanks.... Good day/night. | 23:20 |
| missaugustina | Yeah I'm hanging out! Gnite Avi!! | 23:20 |
| KelvinGardiner | Good night Avi. | 23:20 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I hear my children looking for me. Let's go ahead and tackle this Launchpad registration and we'll all be done for the day. | 23:21 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | What should I name this thing? | 23:21 |
| KelvinGardiner | thanks, is good night for me its. | 23:21 |
| missaugustina | Good Question, maybe something close to the group name? | 23:22 |
| KelvinGardiner | ... 11.20pm here. | 23:22 |
| missaugustina | Gnite Kelvin! | 23:22 |
| missaugustina | It's only 3pm here :D I'm slow :( | 23:22 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | That would be night. Good night, sir. | 23:22 |
| KelvinGardiner | Bye | 23:22 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina: How about Ubuntu Installation Guide? | 23:22 |
| missaugustina | Yeah sounds good. I was looking to see what the group name was | 23:22 |
| missaugustina | Ubuntu Installation Guide team | 23:23 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sure. Is that the name? | 23:23 |
| missaugustina | yeah Ubuntu Installation Guide is perfect since it's consistent | 23:23 |
| missaugustina | yes that's our team name | 23:23 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. Let's go with Ubuntu Installation Guide. The URL will be http://launchpad.net/ubuntuinstallguide | 23:24 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. Now I need a project title. | 23:25 |
| missaugustina | Ubuntu Installation Guide ? | 23:25 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | That is exactly what I was thinking. I'll type that in. | 23:25 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. It wants a summary. Phil summary from the Wiki is: "There is a clear need for a comprehensive installation guide which targets novice and intermediate users. Such a guide should be written and made easily discoverable to potential new users. " | 23:26 |
| missaugustina | Sounds good to me, we can always change it. | 23:26 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Sorry...Phil's summary from the Wiki... | 23:26 |
| missaugustina | Maybe mention that it's part of the ubuntu documentation project | 23:27 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. I've started the process. It wants to make sure I am not reinventing the wheel. | 23:27 |
| missaugustina | Yeah | 23:27 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Some similiar projects in here that never went anywhere. | 23:27 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. Now it wants to know what licenses we want to release the project under. | 23:29 |
| missaugustina | yeah i'm doing a test project along with you so i can see the screens | 23:29 |
| missaugustina | We are using the same license as ubuntu, I thought | 23:29 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I would think its the Creative Commons license but I'm not sure. | 23:30 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I think all the documentation would go under there. | 23:30 |
| missaugustina | Gnome Style Guide lists GFDL | 23:30 |
| missaugustina | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html | 23:30 |
| missaugustina | GNU Free Documentation License | 23:30 |
| missaugustina | If we're going by the Gnome Style Guide, should we use their recommended license? | 23:31 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | My window just closed and I'll need to restart this thing. | 23:31 |
| missaugustina | k no prob :) | 23:31 |
| missaugustina | Creative Commons is correct for ubuntu | 23:31 |
| missaugustina | I just did a quick search | 23:31 |
| missaugustina | At least that's the wiki licensing -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/License | 23:31 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. I am caught back up. | 23:32 |
| missaugustina | Creative Commons ShareAlike 3.0 License (CC-BY-SA) | 23:32 |
| missaugustina | That's the system docs | 23:32 |
| missaugustina | https://help.ubuntu.com/legal.html | 23:32 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Let's go with Creative Commons. I think that is right. | 23:32 |
| missaugustina | K that sounds good | 23:33 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | OK. Its done. | 23:34 |
| missaugustina | Sweet! | 23:35 |
| missaugustina | What are the access rights for the project? | 23:35 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I'm looking for how to change that. | 23:35 |
| missaugustina | Does setting up a project in Launchpad automagically create a Bazaar branch? | 23:37 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I don't know. I'm working on access now for the team and then we can look into it. | 23:38 |
| missaugustina | K I didn't know if it was related | 23:38 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Augustina: I need to go help my wife my kids, but I'll get you and the team access as soon as possible and see what is going on with Bazaar as well. | 23:39 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | I appreciate your help. | 23:39 |
| missaugustina | Thanks! Go do your thing. I don't think there's a huge hurry immediately since we are still getting organized | 23:39 |
| missaugustina | You could also post to the list, I'm positive someone on there knows the answers to these questiosn. | 23:40 |
| missaugustina | questions | 23:40 |
| badenochs_ghost1 | Great meeting today. Talk to you soon. | 23:40 |
| missaugustina | Thx! TTYL | 23:40 |
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