| Sarvatt | eww, nasty crash when using nvidia binary drivers with fullscreen flash in firefox 3.5 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469439 | 00:03 |
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| ubottu | Mozilla bug 469439 in Plug-ins "Crash when enabling fullscreen flash video [@ @0x110430 ]" [Critical,Assigned] | 00:03 |
| superm1 | Ng, because for karmic it's not getting any care to "keep" working per UDS discussions | 00:53 |
| superm1 | its just around in case it needs to be revived because it's easier to keep the arch up and "running" than re-bootstrapping it | 00:53 |
| superm1 | Sarvatt, apparently that happens with AMD drivers too apparently | 00:54 |
| superm1 | if you LD_PRELOAD libGL.so.1 it works okay though | 00:54 |
| Sarvatt | hmm something changed.. xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.7.99.901+git20090708.40e7c950-0ubuntu0sarvatt.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 2:2.7.99.901+git20090708.40e7c950-0ubuntu0sarvatt <= 2:2.7.99.901+git20090708.0402f4f3-0ubuntu0sarvatt | 01:28 |
| bryce | you've got two git pulls with the same date | 01:29 |
| Sarvatt | used to be able to upload new source when the commit id was higher | 01:29 |
| Sarvatt | 40e7 > 0402 part i meant | 01:29 |
| bryce | 402 > 40 ? | 01:29 |
| Sarvatt | not just ignoring the 0 either | 01:30 |
| Sarvatt | xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.12.99+git20090708.8c03c1fd-0ubuntu0sarvatt.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1:6.12.99+git20090708.8c03c1fd-0ubuntu0sarvatt <= 1:6.12.99+git20090708.0519f15a-0ubuntu0sarvatt | 01:30 |
| Sarvatt | stopped reading past the . or something? | 01:30 |
| bryce | possibly, not sure | 01:31 |
| Sarvatt | will have to look over the huge dpkg changelogs | 01:31 |
| Sarvatt | odd that the .r1 trick still works | 01:36 |
| Sarvatt | OK: xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.12.99+git20090708.r1.8c03c1fd.orig.tar.gz | 01:36 |
| Sarvatt | ahh ati is still broken because of the dri2 abi changes, guess i'll manually go in and change all DRI2BufferPtr to DRI2Buffer2Ptr to fix it | 01:38 |
| hyperair | Sarvatt: downgraded and it works. | 03:23 |
| Sarvatt | hyperair: things are fixed now, or at least they should be | 04:25 |
| hyperair | Sarvatt: great! lemme go test | 04:38 |
| Sarvatt | just ati still broken, not sure if i want to kludge it or wait for the real fix that'll probably get commited right after i upload | 04:40 |
| hyperair | heh | 04:42 |
| Sarvatt | changing everything in src/radeon_dri2.c to DRI2Buffer2Ptr works but im not sure which parts i should leave unchanged for the non xserver 1.6.2 situation | 04:42 |
| hyperair | i'd say wait then =\ | 04:43 |
| Sarvatt | mesa and libdrm moving to bzr? | 04:43 |
| Sarvatt | just got a bunch of ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/karmic/mesa | 04:43 |
| hyperair | O_o | 04:45 |
| RAOF | Oh, sweet lord, please yes! | 04:45 |
| RAOF | Deliver me from git. | 04:45 |
| * Sarvatt groans | 04:52 | |
| * hyperair groans too | 04:53 | |
| Sarvatt | oh you're one of "them" :D | 04:53 |
| RAOF | I can use git, but all sorts of parts of it are still wrong. | 04:53 |
| hyperair | i'd say the same about bzr =\ | 04:54 |
| Sarvatt | do you use KDE too? | 04:54 |
| RAOF | Such as not having a monotone versioning scheme :) | 04:54 |
| Sarvatt | i'm just teasing, please dont get offended :) | 04:54 |
| hyperair | you mean revision numbers? | 04:54 |
| RAOF | hyperair: bzr certainly has its flaws; I just don't run into them as often. | 04:54 |
| RAOF | hyperair: Yes, I mean revision numbers. | 04:54 |
| hyperair | RAOF: i kinda like git's better. at least when you look at a commit ID, it is *unique* | 04:55 |
| RAOF | And I think bzr's flaws are in a different direction to git's, generally. | 04:55 |
| hyperair | unlike bzr's | 04:55 |
| hyperair | commit #10 can mean one commit on one repo, another on another repo, and yet another on another repo | 04:55 |
| Sarvatt | i just spent way too much time wrapping my head around git and am partial to it | 04:55 |
| RAOF | Stockhlom syndrome :P | 04:55 |
| hyperair | i spent more time wrapping my head around svn than git =\ | 04:56 |
| hyperair | mostly because i had never used a vcs before that | 04:56 |
| RAOF | hyperair: I guess so. I find "trunk, r2013" makes more sense than <insert 128bit SHA hash> | 04:56 |
| Sarvatt | i like to pretend svn never existed personally LOL | 04:56 |
| RAOF | Eh. Until I tried to use branches, I was quite happy with svn. | 04:57 |
| hyperair | RAOF: i just find it a little confusing after merges | 04:57 |
| RAOF | Once I _did_ try branches... oh. my. lord. | 04:57 |
| hyperair | lol | 04:57 |
| hyperair | i was happy with svn until i found bzr | 04:58 |
| hyperair | simply because it allows you to have a local repository | 04:58 |
| RAOF | git log should default to topological sort, too. :) | 04:58 |
| hyperair | rather than having to create a repository elsewhere, and then checking out | 04:58 |
| hyperair | git's power comes from custom aliases =p | 04:59 |
| hyperair | alias log into log --graph and you'll be happy =D | 04:59 |
| Sarvatt | until you go to git log > ChangeLog :D | 04:59 |
| RAOF | But it's not the default, so people do silly things like insist you rebase rather than merge so that you don't add commits that appear to be in a release without actually being in a release. | 05:00 |
| hyperair | well you can dump your git log --graph into the ChangeLog and then see the topology in the ChangeLog =D | 05:00 |
| hyperair | RAOF: who is this "people" O_o | 05:01 |
| RAOF | GStreamer. | 05:01 |
| hyperair | club those people in the head then | 05:01 |
| tjaalton | bzr.. meh | 06:53 |
| hyperair | git - 2; bzr - 1. | 06:54 |
| hyperair | =D | 06:54 |
| tjaalton | I guess the branches were done automatically | 06:59 |
| jonathan__ | Can some1 help me or point me in the right direction of the 845GV drivers? | 18:04 |
| Sarvatt | they're called xserver-xorg-video-intel and installed by default | 18:05 |
| jonathan__ | I have " unknown " for my display stuff | 18:05 |
| Sarvatt | are you using KMS? | 18:06 |
| jonathan__ | so everythings stuck 800x600 and i'm a n00b at that | 18:06 |
| jonathan__ | this* | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | what ubuntu release? | 18:06 |
| jonathan__ | 9.04 | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | there's updates available in this PPA you can try https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 18:06 |
| jonathan__ | thanks a ton | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | if that doesnt work theres even newer updates in another PPA but it'll uproot all of X so it'd be good to see if those work first | 18:07 |
| Sarvatt | https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa | 18:07 |
| bryce | http://people.ubuntu.com/~pgraner/IMG00152-20090709-1001.jpg | 18:08 |
| Sarvatt | eww! whats that bryce? | 18:08 |
| Sarvatt | that looks like the cursor corruption I get on intel in the middle of the screen :D | 18:09 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, some bug pgraner (kernel team manager) discovered after updating this morning | 18:09 |
| Sarvatt | whats it a bug in? was that just booting up? | 18:11 |
| bryce | guess so, I don't have any details other than the photo | 18:11 |
| bryce | I suggested he log a bug report | 18:11 |
| jonathan__ | -_- all this is confusing. ubuntu + stoned = bad idea. | 18:12 |
| Sarvatt | add the PPA sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade | 18:12 |
| Sarvatt | then reboot | 18:12 |
| jonathan__ | Should i mention this is my first time using linux...... ever lol | 18:13 |
| jcristau | jonathan__: can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin? | 18:14 |
| jonathan__ | 1 sec | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | open up a terminal in applications - accessories - terminal | 18:14 |
| jonathan__ | I know about terminal | 18:14 |
| jonathan__ | well not a lot, just its the command thingy lol | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:14 |
| jcristau | that might give an idea as to why you only get that resolution | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | yeah what jcristau said :) | 18:15 |
| jcristau | before you mess with random ppa packages :) | 18:15 |
| jcristau | (ok, not random, but still) | 18:15 |
| jonathan__ | lol | 18:15 |
| jonathan__ | http://apoboc.pastebin.com/d57634d82 | 18:17 |
| tjaalton | that's not intel, but openchrome | 18:18 |
| tjaalton | the one in 9.04 is full of fail, modesetting-wise | 18:19 |
| jonathan__ | confused already lol | 18:20 |
| Sarvatt | you have VIA graphics not intel graphics | 18:22 |
| jcristau | Sarvatt: there's a "does xorg-edgers work well on debian/sid ?" question on debian-x. do you know of a reason it wouldn't? | 18:22 |
| jonathan__ | lame, My pc case says NEW! intelRextreme graphics 845gv lol | 18:22 |
| jonathan__ | what a peice | 18:22 |
| Sarvatt | xserver and mesa are built differently mainly, they might have the extra mesa bits installed from debian if they go that route | 18:23 |
| Sarvatt | but there are a few people using it fine over on the phoronix forums | 18:24 |
| jcristau | that's just libGLw though, iirc. nothing uses that :) | 18:24 |
| Sarvatt | yeah :D | 18:24 |
| Sarvatt | we use origin/debian-unstable or experimental for debian/ on everything else so it shouldnt be a big deal | 18:26 |
| jonathan__ | alright I can handle this 800x600 for a cpl days, Just going to buy an nvidia card | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | you can force the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | google for more | 18:27 |
| tjaalton | or man xorg.conf | 18:28 |
| Sarvatt | theres an updated openchrome on x-updates, looking into it now to see if theres any fixes lately we can bring in on there | 18:29 |
| tjaalton | the randr1.2-branch was applied a bit too late for jaunty | 18:29 |
| tjaalton | and development seems a bit slow these days :/ | 18:29 |
| Sarvatt | eww svn | 18:30 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: indeed.. | 18:53 |
| Sarvatt | too bad he left, it probably would get fixed updating from jauntys to x-updates openchrome looking at the revision history | 18:55 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, on bug 385832 do we just need to pull that patch in? | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385832 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965gm] lower reslutions no longer available on LVDS with 2.7.99 (KMS)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385832 | 19:01 |
| Sarvatt | nope i'm pretty sure it was part of a larger patch series | 19:01 |
| Sarvatt | but that was the specific commit so i quoted it | 19:01 |
| bryce | ah gotcha, so in that case maybe we should just pull in the git20090702 snapshot into karmic. what do you think? | 19:03 |
| Sarvatt | it was a 6 part patch series with the 5 commits before it, i dont know whats needed | 19:03 |
| Sarvatt | sounds good :) | 19:05 |
| bryce | on it | 19:05 |
| Sarvatt | the dpms fix is really important IMO | 19:05 |
| Sarvatt | and thats in there | 19:05 |
| bryce | ok | 19:05 |
| bryce | yeah let me know what bugs get fixed by this, and I'll make sure they're mentioned in the changelog | 19:06 |
| Sarvatt | if you pulled a newer one you could just do a no change rebuild whenever xserver is updated, but it'll require updating intel whenever xserver is updated if you do 0702 | 19:07 |
| Sarvatt | i mentioned a bunch in the x-updates changelog if it helps any | 19:07 |
| Sarvatt | ahh mostly for the dpms thing i guess, lets see | 19:07 |
| Sarvatt | i'll dupe the xrandr modes ones to Bug #385832 | 19:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385832 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965gm] lower reslutions no longer available on LVDS with 2.7.99 (KMS)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385832 | 19:08 |
| bryce | great | 19:12 |
| bryce | yeah your changelog is about perfect | 19:13 |
| bryce | I'll merge it with our previous changelog | 19:13 |
| bryce | oh also I usually itemize the specific patches that were dropped, for extra clarity | 19:14 |
| Sarvatt | good to know, will do that in the future. still learning the ropes :) | 19:18 |
| bryce | yep, you're doing good :-) | 19:19 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, have you thought about applying for MOTU? I think you're pretty much ready | 19:19 |
| Sarvatt | yeah I have been looking into that but I've had my hands full lately, plus I felt a little awkward about it because I've only been in the community for 3 months.. I think I'll take some time out today and put some effort into applying if you say that :) | 19:25 |
| bryce | you've done considerably more than the typical motu applicant, you're definitely well qualified. | 19:28 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, how many people have sponsored uploads for you, besides me? | 19:30 |
| Sarvatt | noone | 19:32 |
| Sarvatt | just the 5 uploads from you | 19:33 |
| bryce | ok, so maybe that's something we could kick up a bit | 19:33 |
| bryce | also I'll definitely vouch for you, but it usually helps a lot to have several sponsors since they like multiple sources of feedback about an applicant | 19:34 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, so what you could do is look through http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/PkgList/versions_current.html for little things needing merges, and post debdiffs, and then ask for upload sponsoring from me, tjaalton, superm1, and one or two others | 19:36 |
| Sarvatt | i think there was a builder problem in the last mesa upload that you sponsored from me http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28787457/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.mesa_7.5~rc4-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 19:36 |
| Sarvatt | Session terminated, killing shell...make: *** [binary-arch] Terminated | 19:36 |
| Sarvatt | ...killed. | 19:36 |
| Sarvatt | Build killed with signal 15 after 150 minutes of inactivity | 19:36 |
| bryce | dah | 19:37 |
| bryce | weird, I've not seen that particular build failure before. Was it only arm that failed or any other platforms? | 19:37 |
| Sarvatt | was just looking at my uploads and saw it failed on armel, that looks transient though and i dont see any problems with the build | 19:37 |
| bryce | it's probably not a big deal that arm failed, it's rather new | 19:37 |
| bryce | ok I think we can ignore it. afaik X doesn't work on arm yet anyway | 19:38 |
| Sarvatt | eww, really? I'm looking into an arm platform to buy to work with things | 19:39 |
| bryce | on that merge page, the "Notes" title links to a wiki page where you can list status/notes about merges you work on, or todo items about the merges that are needed | 19:39 |
| bryce | if you look at the history of that Notes page you can see examples from timo and I | 19:40 |
| bryce | yeah I think arm is framebuffer only | 19:40 |
| Sarvatt | ah thanks for the heads up! sorry I was sidetracked looking into mesa there when you said it :) | 19:40 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, with the merges, the red links are good opportunities (esp. the minor drivers, those are usually easy), and also packages that are showing to have a git snapshot might be worth refreshing with a newer snapshot | 19:43 |
| Sarvatt | oh nice, you have this page automatically updating? I thought you just took a snapshot in time when you linked it on ubuntu-x | 19:43 |
| bryce | right it updates automatically | 19:44 |
| bryce | (three times an hour) | 19:44 |
| Sarvatt | there are quite a few things with git snapshots that have had releases upstream I imagine, they went and tagged releases on a ton of things this past week | 19:44 |
| bryce | yeah, I noticed | 19:45 |
| bryce | so this is actually a really good point to be working towards MOTU | 19:45 |
| bryce | those upstream versions will get packaged by Debian soonish (typically they do them within a week or so if there's nothing funky) | 19:46 |
| bryce | a lot we can file sync requests for, but there will be a bunch that need manual merges | 19:46 |
| bryce | good practice :-) | 19:46 |
| Sarvatt | thank you very much again for all of the help bryce, I appreciate you going out of your way to help me with this | 19:50 |
| bryce | not a problem :-) | 19:53 |
| * bryce --> lunch bbiab | 19:59 | |
| jcristau | might take some time to get stuff in debian, since brice and i are on vac | 20:00 |
| Sarvatt | hyperair: this your problem? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/287215 | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 287215 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "xmodmap settings not getting honored when keyboard devices are hotplugged" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:41 |
| Sarvatt | might be worthwhile syncing pixman from debian experimental, it reenables SIMD extensions on arm | 21:16 |
| Sarvatt | considering i think ubuntu is only targetting armv6 and higher in the first place unlike debian who needed to disable it because runtime detection wasnt working before | 21:20 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: pixman with xserver 1.6 has issues | 21:24 |
| tjaalton | pixman 0.15.x I mean | 21:26 |
| Sarvatt | darn it, i should have checked the lists before uploading a new 15.15, getting this too http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2009-July/046366.html | 21:26 |
| Sarvatt | ah i think i saw something about a regression on 1.6 branch with 15.x on the lists | 21:27 |
| Sarvatt | now that you mention it | 21:27 |
| tjaalton | can't find the reference anymore though | 21:27 |
| tjaalton | the recent video driver updates were pretty irrelevant, btw | 21:31 |
| Sarvatt | me neither, checked xorg and xorg-devel for the past 3 months hmm | 21:32 |
| Sarvatt | yeah i know, it was just to pad a motu application :D most stuff was just the loader symbol lists getting removed | 21:33 |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22484 | 21:43 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 22484 in libpixman "Notification area icons are not displayed" [Normal,New] | 21:43 |
| Sarvatt | there it is, notification icons not showing | 21:43 |
| Sarvatt | comment 10 | 21:44 |
| tjaalton | eah | 21:49 |
| tjaalton | +y | 21:49 |
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