[00:52] <carter> Hey
[00:54] <knome> !hi | carter
[00:54] <carter> hey thanks
[00:54] <homebrewcider> hey there, on upgrading to 9.04 my orinter is totally out of whack. In desperation, I deleted printer and am trying to install again, but it is not detecting my usb printer or giving me an option to install a usb printer
[00:55] <homebrewcider> that's printer, no orinter
[00:55] <carter> I am unfamiliar with printers in ubuntu in general, sorry.
[02:56] <neiliob1973> is it necessary to format a new External Hard Drive? I just want a simple mass-storage device.
[02:56] <Raggs> neiliob1973, probably not
[02:56] <Raggs> have a good night
[02:57] <neiliob1973> any way to remove the proprietary software on a Seagate Ext HD?
[03:37] <Decio> Hello?
[03:38] <Decio> NickServ
[03:41] <Decio> Hello?
[04:01] <mr_cha0s> hey guys =) question... is there a way i can set a "margin" on the window manager? like I don't want any windows to be within 24 pixels from my taskbar at the bottom
[04:01] <mr_cha0s> is there a way to make it so when i maximize a window, it'll be at most from the top to 24 pixels from the taskbar?
[04:45] <sml12261> skype for 64 bit?
[04:51] <sml12261> I can'tfind an amd-64 version of skype or the source to compile my own, is there one of either?
[05:07] <sml12261> Can somebody help with apache?
[05:10] <maduser> sure
[05:11] <maduser> first are you comping for source or getting the xampp package?
[05:16] <sml12261> maduser I already have it installed just can't access it
[05:17] <maduser> did you use the package manager?
[05:17] <maduser> if you did get rid of it
[05:17] <maduser> it dosne't work
[05:18] <sml12261> I actually have this on a XPmachine, just configuration problems I think, aren't the controls the same
[05:19] <sml12261> linux won't boot after install on that machine :'(
[05:19] <sml12261> stuck with windows
[05:19] <sml12261> GRUB error 17 I think
[05:20] <sml12261> can you help with that if not with apache?
[05:22] <maduser> yeah
[05:22] <maduser> but if you want help you can't use apache from the package manager
[05:22] <maduser> if you want an easy configuration use xampp
[05:22] <maduser> that has php and mysql buit into it
[05:23] <sml12261> ok,well how about the grub error?
[05:31] <sml12261> maduser any reason a fresh  install should not be able to boot?
[05:31] <maduser> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[05:34] <sml12261> mobo doesn't have those options available and I did already try that
[05:35]  * mneptok oozes out from the floorboards
[05:35] <mneptok> any idea why Xubuntu does not have any of the Prism apps in the repos?
[05:36]  * mneptok gestures frantically at cody-somerville
[05:53] <zoquete> hi
[05:54] <zoquete> i need help whit xub 9.04, please
[05:54] <zoquete> it's really slow and i can't working...
[05:54] <zoquete> I use EclipsePDT and Firefox and a Terminal to work
[05:55] <zoquete> and it's a lot of lags
[06:05] <zoquete> hi
[06:05] <zoquete> ...
[06:06]  * mneptok tries to find a question there
[06:06] <zoquete> yes
[06:06] <zoquete> thanks
[06:06] <zoquete> i need help with Xubuntu 9.04 on Lenovo SL400
[06:07] <zoquete> it's really slow and i can't working
[06:07] <zoquete> you can see the Laptop on http://www.pc.ibm.com/ar/notebooks/thinkpad/sl-series/sl400.shtml  (the right column)
[06:08] <mneptok> which JRE are you using?
[06:08] <mneptok> (for Eclipse)
[06:08] <mneptok> Eclipse is a large and bulky app. it eats resources and is CPU intensive.
[06:09] <zoquete> yes, but in windows xp goes faster...
[06:09] <mneptok> the underlying JRE may affect that
[06:09] <zoquete> java-6-sun-1.6.0.13
[06:10] <mneptok> how does the machine perform running only Eclipse?
[06:11] <zoquete> this is unusable... only minimizing a maximize needs a lot of resources
[06:11] <zoquete> xorg go over 50% cpu
[06:11] <zoquete> kernel -> 2.6.28-13-generic
[06:11] <mneptok> what video chipset?
[06:12] <zoquete> Intel 4500MHD
[06:12] <mneptok> are you running Compiz?
[06:12] <zoquete> no
[06:13] <zoquete> I installed xubuntu two days ago
[06:13] <zoquete> my swap partition have 2gb, /home partition 8gb, / partition 7gb, /boot partition 250mb
[06:14] <zoquete> (/boot partition with grub)
[06:14] <mneptok> so the machine is usuable as long as you do not minimize and maximize? or do i misunderstand?
[06:15] <zoquete> yes, and now I only have xchat, system monitor, thunar and a terminal opened and the xorg is over 40%
[06:15] <mneptok> sounds like a wonky Intel driver
[06:15] <mneptok> you have installed all updates?
[06:16] <zoquete> there is nothing to install in the update manager
[06:16] <zoquete> (sorry my english, i talk spanish better)
[06:17] <mneptok> de nada :)
[06:17] <zoquete> !!
[06:17] <mneptok> intiendo perfectamente
[06:17] <zoquete> ok
[06:17] <zoquete> en el gestor de actualizaciones no aparece nada para instalar
[06:17] <zoquete> y no tengo ningún driver privativo
[06:18] <zoquete> según entiendo, los dispositivos de la laptop deberían detectarse automáticamente
[06:18] <mneptok> Ingles solamente en canale #xubuntu
[06:18] <mneptok> (#xubuntu-es para Espanol/Castellano)
[06:19] <mneptok> i have heard of problems with Intel video in Jaunty
[06:19] <zoquete> ¿yes?
[06:19] <mneptok> but i have not experienced anything *too* bad myself.
[06:19] <zoquete> y read about same problems but in posts of 2004/2005 in the forums
[06:19] <mneptok> you might try downloading and installing Intrepid, which should be easy since /home does not have to be touched.
[06:20] <zoquete> ¿reinstall the OS?
[06:20] <mneptok> or try a Live session of Intrepid first, to see if performance is better
[06:20] <mneptok> or try a Live session of Intrepid first, to see if performance is better (x2) ;)
[06:21] <zoquete> i need a blank CD, them... i only do it in a week :S
[06:21] <mneptok> ai caralho
[06:21] <zoquete> because tomorrow i travel to another city
[06:22] <mneptok> :/
[06:22] <zoquete> where i dont have internet
[06:23] <zoquete> why can solve the problem intrepid verision?
[06:23] <mneptok> different Intel driver and kernel
[06:23] <mneptok> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.10/release/xubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:25] <mneptok> oh
[06:25] <mneptok> not a Live CD
[06:25] <mneptok> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.10/release/xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:27] <zoquete> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.10/release/xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[06:27] <onewart> why 8.10 and not 9.04?
[06:27] <zoquete> I like 9.04
[06:27] <zoquete> if i can solve the problem with this version, better
[06:28] <mneptok> zoquete: the best way to test if the kernel+driver in 9.04 is causing the problem is to try a previous release
[06:28] <zoquete> i'm downloading now
[06:29] <zoquete> in one week, i tell you if it works
[06:30] <mneptok> good luck, and enjoy the trip
[06:31] <zoquete> before...
[06:32] <zoquete> have you another idea,  to can i have a usable laptop in my travel?
[06:32] <zoquete> windows vista runs faster here...
[06:32] <mneptok> don't use X? >:)
[06:33] <zoquete> jeje
[06:33] <zoquete> use vista? :P
[06:33] <onewart> ick @ vista!
[06:34] <zoquete> maybe you don't understand the conversation... it's sarcasm ;)
[06:34] <onewart> i get it ;)
[06:35] <zoquete> did you read the dialog?
[06:52] <zoquete> thanks for you help!
[06:52] <zoquete> i give you my email for send me a recommendation if you think anymore that can help me with my problem: yo.zoquete@gmail.com
[06:52] <zoquete> good bye
[06:57] <mneptok> ugh. i'm having Intel video issues, too.
[06:57] <mneptok> about ready to give up on Jaunty
[07:34] <marchino> hi! where i can find the xubuntu's packages list?
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> synaptic?
[07:35] <marchino> no, i'm using debian... i would know which packages are installed by default by xubuntu
[07:37] <psycho_oreos> oh that I wouldn't know, there are some info on distrowatch but apart from that I'm not sure
[07:38] <marchino> psycho_oreos: do you which display manager uses xubuntu? gdm or wdm?
[07:38] <psycho_oreos> gdm for xubuntu
[07:38] <TheSheep> marchino: check the xubuntu-desktop dependencies on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <marchino> TheSheep: thanks
[12:03] <ian__> Is it safe to autoremove "linux-headers-2.6.28-11" on Jaunty?
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> why would you want to do that?
[12:11] <ian__> psycho..,I run sudo apt-get autoremove on a regular basis(i believe it frees hd space??).
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> it does free up hard disk space, if you are looking for space and am not compiling new drivers as such, then yeah you can go ahead.. but I wouldn't that package would come in handy whenever you have new hardware and the driver has to be compiled literally from scratch
[12:15] <ian__> psycho..., seeing the word "linux-headers" alarms my cautious side, therefore I'll put it on hold.
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> to me its just half the package of linux-kernel, it just contains all the necessary bits and pieces for compiling of drivers to match with the current running kernel (or whichever kernel you are using and maybe that is being kept back as legacy)
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> which kernel version you running anyway?
[12:20] <ian__> psycho..,Know any means of "autoremove" w/out deleting this package? ... terminal command to do that.
[12:21] <ian__> psycho..., 2.6.28-13-generic
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> ahh yeah you have the updated kernel, meaning that other one is old :)
[12:22] <ian__> so, really safe to autoremove?
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> I thought it was a bit strange, how you still have 2.6.28-11 when 2.6.28-13
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> well, have you had any qualms with 2.6.28-13 that you had to revert back to 2.6.28-11?
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> (usually no)
[12:23] <ian__> no qualms, whatsoever. system is running smoothly.
[12:23] <psycho_oreos> then yeah its safe to remove it
[12:24] <ian__> ok, then I'll do as you suggested. Thank you very much!
[12:26] <psycho_oreos> nw
[13:47] <ian__> what package to install to control system sound in jaunty?
[13:55] <Slonkie> Mixer
[13:55] <Slonkie> Is installed by default?
[13:56] <ian__> system sound like when I log in a sound is played.
[13:57] <ian__> I have Mixer installed but there's no option for changing or turning off log in sound.
[13:57] <SiDi> log in sound a gnome thing
[13:58] <SiDi> Go to Applications -> Parameters -> Session & Boot (or something similar)
[13:58] <SiDi> and there's a tab where the apps launched on session startup are listed
[13:58] <SiDi> Check if there is anything related to login sounds there please
[14:00] <ian__> Sidi, I don't have this--->> "Parameters" thing under Applications?
[14:00] <ian__> I'm Xubuntu Jaunty user.
[14:01] <ian__> I have ubuntu core installed tho.
[14:02] <ian__> Any recommended package?
[14:03] <homebrewcider> has anybody had any luck printing on a usb printer with Jaunty?
[14:05] <SiDi> ian__: type "xfce4-session-settings"
[14:06] <SiDi> in Alt+F2's window or a terminal, at your choice
[14:06] <homebrewcider> printer doesn't seem to be showing up on usb
[14:07] <ian__> SiDi,, ok I'm following...
[14:07]  * SiDi drinks homebrewcider 
[14:08] <SiDi> homebrewcider: my printer worked out of the box actually
[14:08] <SiDi> homebrewcider: please provide the exact model of the printer.
[14:08] <homebrewcider> mine was working in 8.04 perfectly
[14:08] <homebrewcider> but not after the upgrade
[14:08] <homebrewcider> canon
[14:08] <homebrewcider> mp610
[14:13] <SiDi> http://mp610.blogspot.com/ homebrewcider
[14:14] <homebrewcider> yeah, followed that
[14:14] <homebrewcider> can't seem to get it working
[14:15] <SiDi> http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010488.asp
[14:16] <ian__> SiDi, not found anything related to log in sound (?).
[14:17] <SiDi> ian__: type gnome-sound-properties
[14:17] <SiDi> and go to second tab
[14:20] <ian__> Ok, I'm on the sound menu.
[14:22] <SiDi> well, disable everything xD
[14:22] <SiDi> This is a gnome-specific problem, by the way. We dont use sounds in Xubuntu
[14:23] <ian__> Oh! I see. That's very helpful.
[14:25] <ian__> Thank You very much! That turned off the annoying sounds when ever I clicked something.
[14:26] <ian__> Problem -- solved!!!!
[14:33] <homebrewcider> printer doesn't show up when I input lsusb
[15:17] <Nameless_au> i used the gparted live cd to resize/move my vista ntfs partitions. no probs. i also used gparted to resize the filesystem of my xubuntu 9.04 install. it is now rendered unbootable. I was worried about gparted stuffing my ntfs up, but seems i shouldve been worried about my ext3 :( any help?
[15:31] <ian__> additional info: system sound i was referring to previously is EVENT SOUNDS.
[15:32] <ian__> Found it under Applications>>Settings>>Appearance>>Settings
[15:33] <ian__> I unchecked Enable event sounds.
[17:59] <mneptok> a camel and 4 kilograms of distilled monkey-lust to anyone that makes Orage and Google Calendar sync automagically
[19:16] <mr_cha0s> hey guys =) question... is there a way i can set a "margin" on the window manager? like I don't want any windows to be within 24 pixels from my taskbar at the bottom
[19:16] <mr_cha0s> is there a way to make it so when i maximize a window, it'll be at most from the top to 24 pixels from the taskbar?
[19:21] <SiDi> mr_cha0s: so you want 24 empty px ?
[19:21] <mr_cha0s> yeah
[19:21] <SiDi> Xubuntu 9.04 ?
[19:22] <mr_cha0s> yup, here let me be specific:
[19:22] <SiDi> Go to Apps -> Params -> Workspaces (names may vary, im translating from french)
[19:22] <mr_cha0s> i want to use virtualbox's seamless mode and not have my host windows covering the guest's taskbar
[19:22] <SiDi> And then set the bottom margin to your panel + the 24px you want
[19:22] <mr_cha0s> oh hell yeah, i see the margin there
[19:22] <SiDi> vb3 feature ? :o
[19:23] <mr_cha0s> i guess... i have 3 ;)
[19:29] <mr_cha0s> so...
[19:29] <mr_cha0s> margin's don't work :(
[19:29] <SiDi> it does here
[19:29] <SiDi> Put it to 100px, minimize and remaximize your window
[19:29] <SiDi> and tell me it works, please
[19:29] <mr_cha0s> ahhh yes
[19:30] <mr_cha0s> i thought it would go from the taskbar :) sorry
[19:30] <SiDi> ah ok
[20:23] <slow-motion> hi
[20:28] <PvtRyan> Hey, Trying to setup gps (over bluetooth) with a tomtom wireless mkII receiver. Can anyone help
[20:30] <PvtRyan> basically I can connect the device. and running sudo cat /dev/rfcomm0 displays (what looks to me like) gps data
[20:30] <PvtRyan> but xgps displays nothing
[20:30] <PvtRyan> tangoGPS also picksup nothing
[20:38] <ydupont> hi
[20:39] <Besogon> hi
[20:42] <Raggs> hi
[20:42] <neozen> mooooo
[20:42] <Raggs> very amooosing
[20:43] <neozen> does anyone else wish the old binding for moving windows around in xfce still worked?
[20:44] <neozen> ie... holding cntrl+alt+shift+up/down/left/right to move alt+shift+up/down/left/right to resize?
[20:44] <neozen> seemed to make such good sense
[20:45] <neozen> still can't get used to using the mouse to move things around
[20:46] <Besogon> why can't you do it with mouse? In my opinion, xfce users need menu editor if it hasn't done yet
[20:48] <Besogon> And there is one big problem with xfce panels, that don't work good with fullscreen WINE
[20:56] <PvtRyan> never mind sorted
[22:27] <tom-xfce> i had som error upon installation about "syslog" crashing but the OS seems to be running fine something i should be worrying about?
[22:46] <slow-motion> n8
[23:00] <mr_cha0s> hey guys, one of the things i find totally sucky is that when i hit 'print screen', the data isn't in my clipboard (like in windows)
[23:00] <mr_cha0s> is there any way to do that with xubuntu, so i could open gimp and 'create from clipboard'?