| thumper | james_w: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghostscript | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | james_w: new layout | 00:06 |
| Lumiere | back | 00:12 |
| thumper | Lumiere: ok, a few quick questions: | 00:13 |
| thumper | Lumiere: what version of bzr do you have, and which format were you upgrading to? | 00:13 |
| Lumiere | 19:13:31 jstraw@shipon:~ 1$ bzr version | 00:13 |
| Lumiere | Bazaar (bzr) 1.13.1 | 00:13 |
| Lumiere | I was just doing bzr upgrade without flags | 00:13 |
| thumper | ok | 00:15 |
| thumper | Lumiere: is your local copy upgraded? | 00:15 |
| Lumiere | I couldn't get it checked out to me | 00:15 |
| Lumiere | but the person I am working with had branch type 6 vs 5 on lp | 00:15 |
| thumper | ? | 00:16 |
| Lumiere | thumper: which seemed odd to me | 00:16 |
| thumper | are you using checkouts? | 00:16 |
| thumper | are you a member of the team that owns the branch? | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | yea | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | using branches | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | and I am jasonstraw in that team | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | the person who had the upgraded one is jelkner | 00:17 |
| thumper | have you done a `bzr lp-login`? | 00:18 |
| Lumiere | on other projects | 00:18 |
| thumper | bzr should remember | 00:18 |
| thumper | so you should have been able to do a checkout | 00:18 |
| Lumiere | it times out halfway through | 00:18 |
| thumper | although we recommend branches | 00:18 |
| thumper | bzr branch lp:gasp-lessons | 00:18 |
| thumper | that'll give you a complete local copy | 00:19 |
| thumper | which you can upgrade | 00:19 |
| Lumiere | yes | 00:19 |
| Lumiere | it was a network issue | 00:19 |
| thumper | mthaddon: how about we just run upgrade for Lumiere? | 00:19 |
| Lumiere | please | 00:19 |
| Lumiere | and thank you | 00:19 |
| mthaddon | thumper: sure - leave dirs as is and just run upgrade? | 00:20 |
| Lumiere | the branch was taking so long to do it | 00:20 |
| thumper | mthaddon: you'll need to (re)move the current backup.bzr | 00:20 |
| Lumiere | that it timed out/crashed | 00:20 |
| thumper | mthaddon: and just a vanilla bzr upgrade | 00:20 |
| mthaddon | Lumiere: ok, that's done | 00:20 |
| Lumiere | thank you | 00:20 |
| thumper | mthaddon: thansk | 00:21 |
| mthaddon | np | 00:21 |
| Lumiere | 19:21:01 jstraw@shipon:~/compile/gasp 24$ bzr branch lp:gasp-lessons | 00:21 |
| Lumiere | bzr: ERROR: The branch lp:gasp-lessons has no revision None.4 | 00:21 |
| mthaddon | thumper: any ideas? ^ | 00:23 |
| thumper | mthaddon: can you run check on the branch? | 00:23 |
| thumper | Lumiere: what do you have in ~/compile/gasp ? | 00:24 |
| Lumiere | nothing | 00:24 |
| thumper | Lumiere: no existing .bzr? | 00:24 |
| Lumiere | correct | 00:24 |
| mthaddon | thumper: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/214009/ | 00:25 |
| thumper | mthaddon: that was the broken upgrade :( | 00:25 |
| mthaddon | :( didn't give me any errors when doing it | 00:25 |
| mthaddon | so what now? | 00:26 |
| thumper | mthaddon: did you keep the old backup.bzr? | 00:26 |
| mthaddon | yep | 00:26 |
| thumper | ok | 00:26 |
| thumper | delete the existing .bzr | 00:26 |
| thumper | move the oldest backup.bzr to .bzr | 00:26 |
| thumper | and do a check | 00:26 |
| thumper | (pre upgrade .bzr hopefully) | 00:26 |
| thumper | failing all this, we can grap the mirrored copy | 00:26 |
| mthaddon | ok, should be all good now | 00:27 |
| mthaddon | bzr check worked fine before and after the upgrade | 00:27 |
| thumper | mthaddon: check was good? | 00:27 |
| thumper | kk | 00:27 |
| thumper | Lumiere: try now? | 00:27 |
| Lumiere | it is branching | 00:28 |
| * thumper afk, bbs | 00:30 | |
| james_w | thumper: I saw, thanks | 00:40 |
| james_w | looks great | 00:40 |
| micahg | where would I file a bug to request ppa build cancellations? | 01:06 |
| micahg | as a feature | 01:06 |
| micahg | malone? | 01:07 |
| thumper | soyuz | 01:07 |
| micahg | ah | 01:07 |
| thumper | if in doubt, choose launchpad | 01:07 |
| Turl1 | hi | 03:35 |
| Turl1 | how much time does it take to import svn into launchpad's bzr? | 03:35 |
| lifeless | depends on the project | 03:36 |
| Turl1 | lifeless: it's a small project, it's been 8 hours and it's still pending review :/ | 03:38 |
| mwhudson | Turl1: what's the branch? | 03:38 |
| Turl1 | mwhudson: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/autoptimize/trunk | 03:39 |
| mwhudson | Turl1: approved | 03:44 |
| Turl1 | thanls mwhudson :) | 03:46 |
| Turl1 | thanks* | 03:47 |
| mwhudson | np | 03:49 |
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| wgrant | Can somebody please look up OOPS-1287EC164 in a few minutes? It's repeatedly crashing one of my scripts. | 07:12 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1287EC164 | 07:12 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: looks like something to do with an unsigned publication | 07:43 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Thanks. | 07:46 |
| * wgrant will poke Soyuz people when they appear. | 07:46 | |
| noodles775 | wgrant: Have you got a minute to help me understand the context of bug 378876 | 08:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 378876 in soyuz "Superseded binaries shown as FULLYBUILT_PENDING" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378876 | 08:11 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Sure. | 08:12 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: so from what I can understand in cprov's comments, the later upload is cruft because there was already a source published that superseded it right? | 08:13 |
| noodles775 | In which case, why isn't the later upload *marked* as superseded? | 08:13 |
| noodles775 | I'm not sure I understand why the front-end code should be checking 'should I really be superseded'... that should be done by the publisher... but I'm probably missing something. | 08:14 |
| wgrant | noodles775: The problem is that the binaries are superseded, not the source (that's called cruft, in the Debian world) | 08:17 |
| noodles775 | hmm... | 08:18 |
| * noodles775 tries to wrap his head around the source *not* being superseded, but the binaries generated from that source being superseded... | 08:18 | |
| noodles775 | wgrant: ok, I think I've got it... thanks for the help! | 08:19 |
| wgrant | noodles775: While you're here - is OOPS-1287EC164 likely to have been caused by bigjools' recent addition addition of package_signer to the webservice export of ISPPH? | 08:20 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1287EC164 | 08:20 |
| * noodles775 looks | 08:20 | |
| MaWaLe | morning folks : do someone knows when LP will be released to be donwloadable? | 08:20 |
| wgrant | That SPPH doesn't OOPS any moe. | 08:21 |
| wgrant | Probably because it's published. | 08:21 |
| wgrant | A different unpublished one OOPSes now. | 08:21 |
| wgrant | MaWaLe: Late July or early August is the latest word. | 08:21 |
| noodles775 | MaWaLe: see the link in the subject | 08:21 |
| MaWaLe | thx wgrant | 08:22 |
| MaWaLe | noodles775: i'm asking just to have a confirmation | 08:22 |
| MaWaLe | as a coordinator of the Web&Tech team of our LoCo, we are planning to hold a classroom on it | 08:22 |
| noodles775 | MaWaLe: Cool! But that link is *the* authority on the subject... you might be able to chat with kfogel (who edits it) when he's around... | 08:24 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: hmmm... so the SPR isn't signed... in primary... I'm not sure whether it's bigjools' change or not, but definitely log a bug for it (if you haven't already) | 08:26 |
| wgrant | noodles775: That was my suspicion, but I don't see why the SPR wouldn't be signed. | 08:27 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 08:27 |
| wgrant | A sync. | 08:27 |
| wgrant | Of course. | 08:27 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: actually, is it possible that you might be grabbing the SPPH as soon as it's been published... | 08:27 |
| noodles775 | before it has been signed? | 08:27 |
| wgrant | No, the SPR should be signed on creation. | 08:27 |
| noodles775 | OK, so what did you mean above by sync? | 08:27 |
| wgrant | But some of them aren't, because they're not really uploaded. | 08:27 |
| noodles775 | Ah ok. | 08:28 |
| wgrant | sync-source.py (as used by the Ubuntu archive admins) doesn't actually use real Soyuz copying. It generates a new source package, and uploads it unsigned from cocoplum. | 08:28 |
| * wgrant files a bug. | 08:28 | |
| wgrant | noodles775: Thanks. | 08:29 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: Thanks. Also, with the cruft bug above... | 08:29 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: I'm assuming that if the second source package generates 10 binaries, and only one of them superseded, that the summary for the SPPH should be FULLYBUILT_SUPERSEDED? | 08:30 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I am running away screaming now. | 08:30 |
| noodles775 | heh | 08:30 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I don't know. Nobody has done this sort of thing before. | 08:30 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: it seems strange to summarise the SPPH as FULLYBUILT_SUPERSEDED when it might only be one binary... OK, I'll comment on the bug and see what the others think... | 08:31 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Sounds good. | 08:32 |
| wgrant | Bug #397732 | 08:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397732 in soyuz "Getting an SPPH through the API crashes if the SPR is unsigned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397732 | 08:34 |
| noodles775 | Great, thanks wgrant | 08:35 |
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| nfilus | hello | 09:15 |
| nfilus | can anybody help me in getting the import of .pot files reviewed? | 09:15 |
| noodles775 | henninge: ^^^^ Is that something you could help with? | 09:18 |
| henninge | nfilus: All files will be reviewed eventually. When did you upload them? | 09:19 |
| nfilus | last friday | 09:19 |
| henninge | ok, a week is a lot | 09:19 |
| henninge | nfilus: what's the project's name? | 09:20 |
| nfilus | what kind of review is needed? | 09:20 |
| nfilus | centreon | 09:20 |
| henninge | nfilus: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportPolicy | 09:20 |
| nfilus | henninge: I know this page | 09:21 |
| nfilus | henninge: the technical criteria are met | 09:21 |
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| henninge | nfilus: cool | 09:21 |
| nfilus | henninge: a simple ACK would be enough :) | 09:22 |
| nfilus | henninge: I uploaded 2 templates for stable and trunk. the language files will be added one by one, when we understand the process and advantages of rosetta better | 09:24 |
| nfilus | henninge: is this ok? or would it be better to upload everything including the requested directory structure? | 09:26 |
| henninge | nfilus: yes, it would be much better to upload them all in one go | 09:27 |
| henninge | nfilus: either as a tarball or from a bzr branch | 09:27 |
| henninge | nfilus: most of all it would be much easier for you ... | 09:27 |
| henninge | and for us because we see the whole situation at once | 09:28 |
| henninge | nfilus: but I can approve the templates now | 09:28 |
| nfilus | the whole sources are outside of launchpad in svn und the director structure is different | 09:28 |
| henninge | nfilus: what do you mean different? | 09:29 |
| nfilus | trunk/centreon/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po | 09:30 |
| henninge | nfilus: that is missing some directory ... | 09:31 |
| henninge | don't see that in your svn | 09:31 |
| henninge | nfilus: I am at http://svn.centreon.com/trunk/centreon/ | 09:31 |
| nfilus | translations have a seperate svn | 09:31 |
| nfilus | http://forge.centreon.com/repositories/browse/translations/trunk | 09:32 |
| nfilus | or ... | 09:32 |
| nfilus | http://svn.modules.centreon.com/centreon-translations/trunk | 09:32 |
| henninge | I see | 09:33 |
| nfilus | how can we integrate both structures better? | 09:33 |
| henninge | yes, that will need some scripting or so anyway | 09:33 |
| henninge | nfilus: I am sorry, Launchpad does not support that format directly | 09:34 |
| henninge | nfilus: for an automatic approval and import you would have to rename the files to de.po etc... | 09:36 |
| nfilus | henninge: no problem. currently I can do it manually, but would like to know how to map the structures onto each other | 09:36 |
| nfilus | henninge: ok | 09:36 |
| henninge | nfilus: so, de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po -> centreon/de.po | 09:36 |
| henninge | please avoid the locales like de_DE or es_ES or el_GR. | 09:37 |
| henninge | pt_BR is okay, pt_PT should just be pt | 09:37 |
| nfilus | henninge: I will discuss this with the core devs and must have a look at the needed code changes | 09:37 |
| nfilus | the naming scheme is inconsistent | 09:38 |
| henninge | nfilus: I could approve your templates now but that might get people starting to translate before you upload the translations thus causing double work. | 09:39 |
| henninge | nfilus: or you set the permission to "closed" for now. | 09:40 |
| * henninge goes to file a bug | 09:40 | |
| nfilus | so should I upload the current translations? | 09:40 |
| henninge | nfilus: you can do that but to have them approved automatically (that is quickly) they need to be renamed as described. | 09:41 |
| henninge | nfilus: also, I saw that your templates are named differently but I guess they are really the same, right? It is just for a different series. | 09:42 |
| wgrant | noodles775: You seem to have misunderstood the issue in bug #378876. I've replied. | 09:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 378876 in soyuz "Superseded binaries shown as FULLYBUILT_PENDING" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378876 | 09:42 |
| henninge | nfilus: also! | 09:42 |
| henninge | nfilus: We have message sharing in place now! | 09:42 |
| noodles775 | Thanks wgrant. | 09:42 |
| * wgrant fails. | 09:43 | |
| nfilus | henninge: how to setup translations for different series? | 09:43 |
| wgrant | Two step 3s! And a typo in the first step 3. | 09:43 |
| henninge | nfilus: you did that right | 09:43 |
| henninge | nfilus: you uploaded the files to different series. | 09:43 |
| nfilus | henninge: ah, ok - I will have a targz ready in 3 minutes to upload everything | 09:44 |
| henninge | nfilus: I am just saying they don't need to be named differently and in fact shouldn't if you want to take advantage of message sharing | 09:44 |
| henninge | nfilus: we take the name and translation domain from the file name. | 09:45 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: so perhaps I misunderstood when cprov wrote "the later source is cruft".. | 09:46 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I suspect he meant the former. | 09:47 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: yes, I guess he did. Thanks! | 09:47 |
| wgrant | noodles775: And there are actually two cases here - the display and handling of the situation needs to differ depending on whether any binaries remain. | 09:48 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: do you mean when the earlier source has some binaries that have been superseded, but others that are not? If so, yes, that's the issue I tried to highlight on the bug... | 09:49 |
| lamalex | How do I revert a backedup .bzr dir on launchpad? | 09:49 |
| lamalex | I have a botched bzr upgrade, and need to put the backup.bzr back as .bzr | 09:50 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Right. | 09:50 |
| wgrant | lamalex: Use lftp or lp:hitchhiker. | 09:50 |
| * wgrant -> dinner. | 09:50 | |
| noodles775 | Enjoy :) | 09:50 |
| lamalex | wgrant: it tells me I can't rename something to .bzr | 09:50 |
| lamalex | also can't rename .bzr to /anything/ | 09:52 |
| nfilus | henninge: please have a look at the new uploaded trunk templates | 09:55 |
| henninge | nfilus: looks very good! | 09:57 |
| henninge | nfilus: btw you have a broken locale | 09:57 |
| henninge | nfilus: zn_TW should be zh_TW | 09:58 |
| henninge | or we don't know that language ... ;) | 09:58 |
| nfilus | oh :) | 09:59 |
| nfilus | how to exchange that? | 09:59 |
| nfilus | upload again? | 09:59 |
| henninge | nfilus: yes, you can always upload again, entries with the same file name just get replaced. | 09:59 |
| henninge | nfilus: also | 09:59 |
| henninge | nfilus: please change the following locales while you're at it: | 10:00 |
| henninge | pt_PT -> pt, es_ES -> es | 10:00 |
| henninge | nfilus: we don't you those and thus they are likely to be missed by translators. | 10:01 |
| henninge | nfilus: I'll set the others to "Deleted" | 10:01 |
| nfilus | henninge: ok | 10:01 |
| henninge | nfilus: ok, I approved the trunk templates, the translation files will get approved and imported automatically now | 10:04 |
| henninge | give it 30-60 minutes, the overall queue is quite big. | 10:04 |
| nfilus | woow, thanks | 10:05 |
| nfilus | should I upload now only the renamed ones or the whole tar.gz again? | 10:05 |
| henninge | nfilus: use the tar.gz to keep the path | 10:06 |
| henninge | nfilus: single file uploads lose the path information (HTTP limitation) | 10:06 |
| nfilus | henninge: but all files included or the changed ones? | 10:06 |
| mariuz | hello | 10:06 |
| henninge | nfilus: yes, you can always upload again, entries with the same file name just get replaced. | 10:06 |
| henninge | nfilus: all files is fine. | 10:06 |
| mariuz | i have an issue with firebird code import in bzr https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/firebird/trunk | 10:08 |
| nfilus | henninge: thank you very much! | 10:08 |
| henninge | nfilus: np, poke me when you need the template for the other series approved. | 10:09 |
| wgrant | lamalex: Allowed names are .bzr, backup.bzr, and .bzr.backup. I'd just remove .bzr, and rename backup.bzr to .bzr. | 10:13 |
| lamalex | wgrant: yah, i got it | 10:13 |
| lamalex | thanks | 10:13 |
| wgrant | bigjools: What time does edge update these days? I'll turn off my scripts until then, lest my inbox fill with errors. | 10:15 |
| bigjools | wgrant: I need to check | 10:17 |
| wgrant | It had been 4am UTC, but that doesn't seem to have held lately... | 10:17 |
| bigjools | I might push out a cherry pick to edge, it will be breaking james_w as well | 10:18 |
| bigjools | yes, that's why I need to check :) | 10:18 |
| wgrant | That would be good, thanks. | 10:18 |
| bigjools | it won't be for ~6 hours minimum if that happens though | 10:18 |
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| wgrant | Um. Who stole all of the widgets from +filebug? | 10:39 |
| wgrant | On the second step, after you choose to report a new bug, only the summary, description and checkbox widgets appear. | 10:39 |
| wgrant | The rest have labels and descriptions, but the actual widgets are missing from the HTML. | 10:40 |
| henninge | wgrant: you mean under "extra options"? | 10:41 |
| henninge | because that WFM | 10:41 |
| wgrant | henninge: Yes. Hmmm. | 10:42 |
| * wgrant tries some non-Launchpad projects. | 10:42 | |
| wgrant | Oh, maybe it is Firebug after all. I just noticed the widgets are in the HTML, but I missed them because it's all wrapped in tables. | 10:44 |
| DeSian | hi | 10:47 |
| DeSian | your system in translation, everytime with anew version from software, do XXXX problem for us | 10:48 |
| DeSian | we have translated wordpress 2.7 completlly and now is 2.8, you have imported the 2,7 in 2.8, but we must tranlate every line again. | 10:49 |
| DeSian | what is that for Bugy system you have?!! | 10:49 |
| DeSian | https://translations.launchpad.net/wordpress/2.8/+pots/wordpress/ckb/+translate | 10:50 |
| DeSian | we must edit every page and select the correct line | 10:51 |
| DeSian | can any one tell me, if you import the last translated version, why make you this mistake ever? | 10:51 |
| nfilus | henninge: something went wrong, german is translated in 100% (but some are fuzzy), but launchpad shows 0% | 10:54 |
| nfilus | henninge: same goes for french | 10:54 |
| nfilus | henninge: what could be the reason? | 10:54 |
| wgrant | Ooh shiny. Inline bugtask editing is arriving? | 11:00 |
| henninge | nfilus: German isn't imported yet. | 11:01 |
| henninge | nfilus: French looks fine now | 11:02 |
| nfilus | henninge: ok, I though every appearing lang is already imported | 11:02 |
| henninge | nfilus: wait until all files are "Imported". | 11:02 |
| henninge | nfilus: do you have "German" as a preferred language for your Launchpad account? | 11:02 |
| nfilus | henninge: no | 11:03 |
| * henninge looks | 11:03 | |
| henninge | nfilus: ah, now | 11:03 |
| henninge | no | 11:03 |
| henninge | nfilus: the reason is: the language is created when the file is approved. | 11:03 |
| nfilus | henninge: I'm doing most things in english | 11:03 |
| henninge | nfilus: just wait for the imports to complete. | 11:03 |
| nfilus | henninge: that wasn't clear to me | 11:03 |
| henninge | nfilus: Aber du hast auch Deutsch in deinem Konto stehen ... ;-) | 11:04 |
| henninge | nfilus: You always see your preferred languages in a template. | 11:04 |
| nfilus | henninge: you mean the menus "Templates" or "overview" or messages.pot template? | 11:06 |
| henninge | nfilus: I meant this page: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/centreon/trunk | 11:07 |
| nfilus | henninge: I see 9 languages, which several of them are neiter prefered nor spoken by me :) | 11:08 |
| nfilus | henninge: maybe because I'm project admin? | 11:08 |
| henninge | nfilus: No, I meant "your preferred languages in addition to those for which there are translations." | 11:08 |
| henninge | nfilus: for example, I see ten languages. | 11:09 |
| henninge | nfilus: I have Esperanto as a preferred language and so I see a line for it. Untranslated, of course. | 11:09 |
| nfilus | henninge: ok :) | 11:10 |
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| wgrant | IArchive.newComponentUploader seems to not work on PPAs, even though it's meant to now... when I specify a component_name of 'main', it gives me a 400 stating that the component name must be 'main'. | 13:39 |
| bigjools | wgrant: that's err, less than optimal | 13:58 |
| bigjools | I am going for food now, I'll play with it when I get back | 13:58 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Thanks. And why are PPA package-specific uploaders not possible? | 14:00 |
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| VK7HSE | Hi... just got the following... (Error ID:OOPS-1287EB598) when attempting an edit on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/me-tv/+edit-packaging | 15:08 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1287EB598 | 15:08 |
| VK7HSE | and on a second attempt... (Error ID:OOPS-1287EC593) | 15:11 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1287EC593 | 15:11 |
| james_w | bigjools: hey, was the problem you were talking about earlier an issue with OOPS from getPublishedSources? | 15:12 |
| bigjools | james_w: yes | 15:12 |
| bigjools | sorry for the cockup | 15:13 |
| bigjools | it will right itself next time edge is updated | 15:13 |
| james_w | AttributeError? | 15:13 |
| geser | james_w: see bug 397732 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397732 in soyuz "Getting an SPPH through the API crashes if the SPR is unsigned" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397732 | 15:15 |
| bigjools | james_w: I don't know how it manifested itself externally, but it oopsed when serialising sources with no signer | 15:15 |
| james_w | thanks for the quick fix | 15:17 |
| james_w | I'll assume it's the same | 15:17 |
| james_w | e.content just gives 'AttributeError' and nothing else, which is a bit odd | 15:17 |
| james_w | but it is the same error that the Oops shows | 15:17 |
| holzmodem | hey, I will rename my account, I can only change the Displayname, not the "Name": This user has a PPA and may not be renamed., I dont need this ppa, its empty. How Can i delete this? | 15:25 |
| kiko | cprov, ^^ holzmodem | 15:25 |
| bigjools | holzmodem: file a question on soyuz please, and we'll deal with it | 15:25 |
| kiko | VK7HSE, so that problem you're getting is because there's already a packaging entry with the data you're inputting. it's a bug, though | 15:25 |
| kiko | sinzui, does a bug already exist on https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1287EB598 | 15:26 |
| VK7HSE | kiko: thanks, I was attempting to change the development to stable... | 15:26 |
| sinzui | kiko: no, infact we have a opposite bug requesting that they no be unique | 15:27 |
| cprov | holzmodem: did you upload any packages to your PPA ? | 15:27 |
| holzmodem | yes, but i deleted all (or copied to a team ppa) | 15:27 |
| kiko | sinzui, I guess you can just lump it in then :) | 15:28 |
| sinzui | kiko: I see there is a recent bug: bug 352374 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 352374 in launchpad-registry "IntegrityError: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "packaging_uniqueness"" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352374 | 15:29 |
| sinzui | kiko: and bug 344376 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 344376 in launchpad-registry "in +addpackage in a project, it oopses if the "Source Package Name" is left blank" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344376 | 15:29 |
| cprov | holzmodem: cool, but unfortunately it doesn't suffice, we can't purge the history in your PPA. | 15:29 |
| sinzui | kiko: both of these bugs can be fixed with a name field or a validator | 15:29 |
| cprov | holzmodem: for now file a question and we will deal with the required renaming involved. | 15:30 |
| holzmodem | cprov, the ppa is not the problem i want only change the name | 15:30 |
| cprov | holzmodem: right, but changing the account name implies in changes to the PPA repository path, and that has to be done manually right now. | 15:31 |
| cprov | holzmodem: no worries, file a question on soyuz and we will deal with it asap. | 15:32 |
| holzmodem | ok, filing question, thx | 15:32 |
| james_w | the dependencies of launchpadlib have ballooned somewhat | 15:55 |
| holzmodem | cprov, #76597 ^^ | 15:57 |
| cprov | holzmodem: thank, I'm on it, will move the PPA repo path and rename your account. | 15:58 |
| cprov | holzmodem: 'raa' is taken -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~raa | 16:00 |
| holzmodem | :-( maybe; "ra" or "raaa" ? | 16:02 |
| james_w | it really requires all that zope stuff now? | 16:03 |
| cprov | holzmodem: you tell me, pick one of your preference. | 16:04 |
| holzmodem | cprov, if ok "ra" | 16:05 |
| holzmodem | else "raaa" | 16:05 |
| james_w | ah, it's for testing apparently | 16:06 |
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| cprov | holzmodem: 'ra' is also taken, going to https://edge.launchpad.net/~raaa. Please confirm that it's what you want in the question. | 16:06 |
| holzmodem | what i have to do? aking question for "raaa"? (sry english is not my native language) | 16:11 |
| cprov | holzmodem: nothing special, just post a new comment to the existing question. | 16:15 |
| holzmodem | done | 16:16 |
| cprov | holzmodem: thank you. | 16:16 |
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| tumbleweed | question about branch merge requesting: | 16:56 |
| tumbleweed | when you request on the web interface, it automatically requests review | 16:57 |
| tumbleweed | when you bzr send or resubmit a merge request, it doesn't | 16:57 |
| tumbleweed | is there any reason for this difference? | 16:57 |
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| holzmodem | cprov, how long does the change approximately took? | 17:23 |
| LarstiQ | tumbleweed: where are you `bzr send`ing it to? | 17:32 |
| tumbleweed | cocooncrash: that'd be you | 17:33 |
| tumbleweed | LarstiQ: I tend to use the web interface, cocooncrash tends to bzr send | 17:33 |
| bigjools | holzmodem: you need to wait for an admin to pick up your question, it should be within a day | 17:40 |
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| cocooncrash | LarstiQ: merge@code.launchpad.net | 18:42 |
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| LarstiQ | cocooncrash: and what is the submit branch? | 18:43 |
| cocooncrash | LarstiQ: lp:ibid | 18:43 |
| LarstiQ | cocooncrash: because afaik, for the bzr project, it does work fine | 18:43 |
| cocooncrash | LarstiQ: The merge request is created fine -- it just doesn't set the reviewer. | 18:43 |
| LarstiQ | cocooncrash: yeah, I meant it setting the reviewer to bzr-core, sorry | 18:44 |
| cocooncrash | Oh, right. | 18:44 |
| * LarstiQ checks bzr project settings | 18:44 | |
| LarstiQ | cocooncrash: looks similar to me | 18:46 |
| * LarstiQ leaves it up to an lp dev | 18:46 | |
| cocooncrash | LarstiQ: Thanks | 18:46 |
| Hamaryns | ping gmb | 18:48 |
| rockstar | cocooncrash, you'll need to set the default review team of the target branch | 18:50 |
| rockstar | cocooncrash, or, you can type the following in your email | 18:50 |
| rockstar | reviewer rockstar | 18:51 |
| rockstar | ...if you wanted me to review it. | 18:51 |
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| DnaX | hi, someone LP admin can change an project name (id, not title)? | 19:21 |
| jpds | DnaX: File a question here: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion about it. | 19:24 |
| cocooncrash | rockstar, LarstiQ: Apologies, bzr send isn't a problem | 19:27 |
| cocooncrash | But resubmiting merge requests doesn't assign the default reviewer. | 19:28 |
| cocooncrash | (And you also can't resubmit with bzr send, but I've filed a bug for that.) | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | cocooncrash: cool | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | you also can't resubmit with e-amil | 19:30 |
| cocooncrash | tumbleweed: bzr send is via email. | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | cocooncrash: hmm, I suppose yes | 19:31 |
| * tumbleweed leave outta here for now | 19:32 | |
| DnaX | thanks jpds | 19:44 |
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| BUGabundo | guud evening | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | I'm experiencing timeouts on Edge | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | sending emails to contacts from their profile page | 23:06 |
| beuno | BUGabundo, could you file a bug with the OOPS ids? | 23:11 |
| RenatoSilva | what's the difference bewteen SSH and OpenPGP keys? | 23:12 |
| RenatoSilva | Aren't they both just RSA key pairs? | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | beuno: I just get a blank page :( | 23:15 |
| maxb | RenatoSilva: an OpenPGP key contains more than just a single keypair | 23:22 |
| maxb | signed user ids, subkeys, potentially other extended information | 23:23 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: wouldn't it be easier to just have two key pairs and everytime you want to send signed content you just sign it? | 23:26 |
| maxb | huh? | 23:26 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: sorry | 23:26 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I don't get the sense | 23:26 |
| maxb | What would be easier? What would it be easier than? I don't understand the reasoning behind your previous question. | 23:27 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: let's go abck to the question | 23:28 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I mean, huh for you heheh | 23:28 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: why more than a key pair? for what? | 23:29 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I can't imagine what else than a key pair would I need to send signed content out there. | 23:30 |
| maxb | For starters, associating the keypair with an identity, and cryptographically signing that association | 23:30 |
| maxb | And not just a self signature - other people can sign the association to assert that the user id is genuine | 23:31 |
| maxb | This is the basis of the "web of trust" | 23:31 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: if you have signed content in your openPGP key, then it's a mix of priv key + pub key + signed content, right? | 23:31 |
| maxb | yes | 23:32 |
| maxb | And then you can have subkeys - secondary keypairs with delegated authority | 23:32 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I can't figure out why would I need this default signed content | 23:33 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: do you have an example? | 23:33 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: and I'd appreciate too if you point me to a tutorial you it's good | 23:34 |
| maxb | My key asserts that I am Max Bowsher, and that I own a variety of email addresses, and moreover carries the certification of various people that I have met face-to-face that they believe that I, the owner of the key, are that person | 23:34 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: humm, ok then would that be kind of a "default signed message for basic questions"? | 23:35 |
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| maxb | um. that's kind of a weird way of describing it, and I don't know how to answer that | 23:36 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: such as dose this email belong to him, or does he trust in this guy's public key... | 23:37 |
| RenatoSilva | s/dose/does | 23:37 |
| maxb | Essentially yes, though it's less of a "message" and more a core part of the way the keys are defined and used | 23:38 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I've found explanations in lp and ubuntu wiki, but they don't introduce the idea, and they don't point out a clever way to keep your priv key secure, whcih I think it's a very important step. | 23:39 |
| maxb | You're right, it's a vitally important step, since it potentially may be important to you for your entire lifetime | 23:40 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: how to keep it secure? the question is for any pub/priv key pair I think | 23:41 |
| maxb | Exactly, it's in no way specific to PGP keys | 23:41 |
| maxb | And really it comes down to being sensible about where you put it | 23:42 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: and how about creating many OpenPGP keys? For example, I need one to become an Ubuntero, and set up PPA etc. I want to create an OpenPGP key only for that use, in Launchpad. How about it? | 23:43 |
| maxb | Certainly doable | 23:44 |
| maxb | You might choose to indicate in the user id comment if the key is intended for a restricted purpose | 23:45 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I wonder if there are any specific steps, because anyone with physical access to the machine containing your private key would be able to access it | 23:45 |
| maxb | only if you keep it unencrypted, which would be foolish | 23:45 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: encrypt with a password-based algorith? | 23:46 |
| RenatoSilva | m | 23:46 |
| maxb | However, you are right that you shouldn't keep high value keys on a machine to which others have physical access, even if they *are* encrypted | 23:46 |
| maxb | It is normal to keep your pgp key protected with a passphrase - preferably a fairly long one | 23:47 |
| maxb | mine is > 30 characters | 23:47 |
| RenatoSilva | I wonder if crypted .zips woud be enougth | 23:48 |
| maxb | erm, what? | 23:48 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: you can put the key in a zip file, protected by pasword | 23:49 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: when you want to extract the file, you must type the right password. I don't know if the algorith is trustable tough. | 23:49 |
| maxb | No, you don't do that - the program you use to sign/encrypt/verify stores it encrypted and decrypts on the fly when using it, never storing it on disk at all | 23:50 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I wonder if such encryption of the key-manager is enough too. PuTTY for example. | 23:52 |
| maxb | ? | 23:52 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: are pass_word_-encrypted files enougth? Or do you really need a pass_phrase_ greater than 30 chars? | 23:53 |
| maxb | I like to be comfortable that I'm well beyond the possibility of a brute force search *and* sufficiently complex that someone couldn't feasibly watch me type it either | 23:54 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: PuTTY is a Windows SSH client, it can generate a key pair. You can protect the private key with a pasword, but I wonder if that is really secure. Are password/phrase-based encryption really secure, enougth, as secure as or more than assimetric algorithm | 23:55 |
| RenatoSilva | s/Are/Is | 23:56 |
| RenatoSilva | s/enought/enough | 23:57 |
| RenatoSilva | s/enougth/enough | 23:57 |
| maxb | An asymmetric algorithm is irrelevant here. The aim is to secure data using a memorized key. Asymmetry serves no purpose. | 23:57 |
| RenatoSilva | maxb: I was jsut wondering how they compare, as it is standed that symetric algorithms are "better" | 23:59 |
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