[00:01] <Bauldrick> its loaded at the moment as im in *30 not 31
[00:02] <yofel> Bauldrick: ok, then lets try to rebuild the module for 31-2 by hand, use the following commands:
[00:03] <yofel> Bauldrick: sudo dkms remove -k 2.6.31-2-generic -m nvidia -v 185.18.14
[00:03] <Bauldrick> well - Error! There is no instance of nvidia 185.18.14
[00:03] <Bauldrick> for kernel 2.6.31-2-generic (x86_64) located in the DKMS tree
[00:03] <yofel> Bauldrick: sudo dkms build -k 2.6.31-2-generic -m nvidia -v 185.18.14
[00:03] <yofel> Bauldrick: ignore that
[00:04] <yofel> but that means the build failed the last time dkms tried it
[00:04] <yofel> what does dkms build give you?
[00:04] <Bauldrick> http://pastebin.com/m7654f3ff
[00:05] <yofel> Bauldrick: check if you have the package linux-headers-2.6.31-2-generic installed
[00:06] <Bauldrick> apparently not :)
[00:06] <yofel> Bauldrick: that should be the reason
[00:11] <Bauldrick> yofel: thats just automatically built and installed nvidia for 31-2, thanks - I thought I'd have gotten the headers automaically - cheers again
[00:11] <yofel> Bauldrick: :)
[00:11] <Bauldrick> suppose I better reboot :)
[01:17] <andresmh> is everyone getting an error message about GDM on login?
[01:17] <BUGabundo> the one about the old login ?
[01:19] <andresmh> um, not sure BUGabundo, I just upgraded my Karmic, restarted and got two windows saying something like GDM cannot save something
[01:19] <DanaG> The one about "doesn't support 'save current setup'"?
[01:19] <kklimonda> how stable is KK for daily use?
[01:19] <andresmh> yeah DanaG, i think that's the one
[01:19] <andresmh> i should have written it down
[01:20] <DanaG> That's Metacity doing that.
[01:20] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/35316
[01:20] <BUGabundo> DanaG: that one
[01:21] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: usable
[01:21] <BUGabundo> no brning cds douh
[01:21] <kklimonda> heh, I'll wait for a3 or a4 then..
[01:21] <andresmh> not sure what's the consencuqneces
[01:21] <kklimonda> hmm.. I don't get why are they writing a parts of gnome-shell in javascript..
[01:22] <DanaG> Odd... my gnome-power-manager thingy is showing the "empty battery" pic, even though it's actually showing correct numbers.
[01:22] <kklimonda> what's with the idea to use JS to write desktop apps..
[01:22] <DanaG> also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/35316
[01:22] <andresmh> why is Firefox 3.5 not part of Karmic repos? or is it?
[01:23] <kklimonda> andresmh:  it is in package firefox-3.5 for now
[01:23] <andresmh> so it can be found via synaptic kklimonda
[01:23] <andresmh> ?
[01:23] <kklimonda> if you have universe enabled then yes
[01:23] <andresmh> ok, cool
[01:24] <andresmh> oh btw, what's the best way to get all the unfree stuff (flash, dvd codecs, etc)?
[01:26]  * yofel wants gnome-power-manager to use both batteries in the calculation and not to tell me 'critical battery state' when one's emtpy and the other one still charged -.-
[01:27] <DanaG> You may be in luck.
[01:28] <DanaG> Look at the changelogs for g-p-m.
[01:28] <BUGabundo> hey BluesKaj
[01:28] <BUGabundo> DanaG: fixing a 10y bug ?
[01:28]  * yofel goes testing
[01:29] <BUGabundo> ahaaha
[01:29] <DanaG> I make it a policy to always read changelogs before installing packages.  That way I can see if people complain that, "hey, fixing this bug X broke thing Y!"
[01:29] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo
[01:30] <DanaG> I also enabled the volume-control thingamajigger at the login screen.
[01:30] <yofel> DanaG: I would do that if the changelogs were synced quicker, usually when I check for updates the changelogs aren't available
[01:30] <DanaG> Handy hint: while GDM is at login window, switch to a TTY and do: sudo -u gdm gconf-editor
[01:30] <BUGabundo> DanaG: what volume?
[01:30] <DanaG> Audio volume, I mean.
[01:30] <BUGabundo> yofel: apt-listchanges always give me them
[01:31]  * yofel goes installing
[01:31] <DanaG> I have it prompt for confirmation, too.  And have it use the gtk frontend.
[01:31] <DanaG> Sucks that update-manager doesn't give stuff the tty, so debconf things can't use a proper pager!
[01:33] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/396459
[01:33] <DanaG> "Have also now lost root log in"
[01:33] <DanaG> HAH!
[01:37] <andresmh> I just intalled Karmic. How do I install Flash?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> amarok2 keeps crashing so I reinstalled 1.4, but now I have no plugins it seems to play network streams ...any suggestions
[01:39] <yofel> andresmh: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:40] <andresmh> yofel: what's the difference between that one and flashplugin-nonfree?
[01:40] <yofel> andresmh: check the description, flashplugin-nonfree is the old package, use flashplugin-installer instead
[01:40]  * BUGabundo $ date; $ echo bedtime; $ aptitude why bed; $ echo guud pillow :p
[01:41] <yofel> gn BUGabundo :)
[01:41] <DanaG> One is native 64-bit.
[01:41] <DanaG> Frankly, I prefer having nspluginwrapper there, to separate the plugin from the browser.
[01:41] <DanaG> BUGabundo: $: no such command.
[01:42] <yofel> DanaG: might be, but the 64bit plugin hasn't crashed for me once yet, the nspluginwrapper one crashed daily
[01:42] <BUGabundo> DanaG: I use 64bit .so. works okaish. much less CPU then nsplw
[01:42] <BUGabundo> now bye bye
[01:42] <DanaG> hMM, but can you also do "killall -9 npviewer.bin"?
[01:44] <andresmh> yofel: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-installer
[01:44] <andresmh> i got that after trying sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:44] <yofel> andresmh: got multiverse enabled?
[01:45] <andresmh> yofel: where do i enable it?
[01:46] <DanaG> hmm, why is g-p-m showing the empty-battery pic while charging?
[01:46] <yofel> andresmh: Sofware Sources (System->Administration->Software sources)
[01:47] <andresmh> multiverse is checked yofel
[01:49] <DanaG> gdmflexiserver --xnest
[01:49] <DanaG> ** (gdmflexiserver:6723): WARNING **: Not yet implemented
[01:49] <yofel> apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer gives me:         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/multiverse Packages
[01:49] <yofel> so it has to be there
[01:49] <DanaG> oh, and it has an odd option:  --monte-carlo-pi
[01:49] <DanaG> what the heck is monte-carlo-pi?
[01:50] <andresmh> maybe it's because i am using Australian server. I'll try the Main one.
[01:52] <stik> Where do I report a resume bug? Launchpad?
[01:54] <yofel> DanaG: g-p-m indeed seems to be fixed. Yay :)
[02:03] <DanaG> monte-carlo-pi... odd.
[02:03] <yofel> DanaG: g-p-m indeed seems to be fixed. Yay :)
[02:04] <DanaG> Wish I had a second battery for my laptop.
[02:04] <DanaG> s/a/the/g
[02:04] <DanaG> if I global search-and-replace, I get:
[02:04] <DanaG> Wish I hthed the second bthettery for my ltheptop.
[02:05] <DanaG> replaced every 'a' with "the".
[02:07] <BluesKaj> anyone using amarok 1.4 ?
[02:07] <DanaG> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2148/
[02:07] <DanaG> hmm, volume control for gdm.
[02:07] <DanaG> Works even better now.
[02:08] <DanaG> Or rather, the new gdm runs gnome-settings-daemon, and thus can do the volume control.  It's just not enabled by default.
[02:10] <DanaG> heh, something I found odd when I had my desktop up for a while: with network cable unplugged, it showed the wireless "no-signal" icon.
[02:10] <DanaG> (There's no wifi card in the thing.)
[02:12] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/356448
[02:16] <DanaG> My laptop has a (disabled by default) feature, where it can rfkill the wifi card when wired is plugged in.  I leave the feature disabled, of course.
[02:20] <BluesKaj> can anyone recommend an audio player that works on network streams in karmic ? amarok doesn't
[02:21] <BluesKaj> streamtuner doesn't either
[02:22] <yofel> BluesKaj: shouldn't vlc be able to do that?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> yeah, but where can one srore the URLs so they can be easily opened
[02:24] <BluesKaj> maybe a symlink
[02:25] <BluesKaj> dunno, it's just frustrating that neither of the amaroks don't work
[02:26] <mase_work> audacious ?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> I'm searching for the so called missing plugins that amarok requires but there no way to configure them anymore , even if I could find them
[02:27] <yofel> BluesKaj: you should be able to store the urls in a playlist
[02:35] <andresmh> I can't seem to find how to replace Firefox 3.1 that comes with Alpha 2 with FF3.5
[02:36] <Sarvatt> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5  ?
[02:37] <Sarvatt> do you mean 3.0.11 that comes with alpha 2? firefox 3.1 should upgrade to 3.5 seamlessly
[02:38] <andresmh> ah yes, i meant 3.0.11
[02:39] <andresmh> cool. FF3 is being installed Sarvatt
[02:39] <BluesKaj> yofel , I have the URLs stored in a playlist in amarok ,but amarok can't play them , I keep getting the same demux plugin error
[02:39] <andresmh> thankx
[02:40] <yofel> BluesKaj: store it as a .m3u file?
[02:40] <Sarvatt> ahh ok no worries, its just that firefox 3.5 used to be called firefox 3.1 up until 2 months ago or so so it was a little confusing :)
[02:45] <andresmh> what was the name of the package that has the MS fonts, codecs, etc?
[02:50] <yofel> !medibuntu | andresmh
[02:50] <Sarvatt> ubuntu-restricted-extras w32codecs and wine1.2 are probably what you want
[02:57] <andresmh> yofel: medibuntu is not on synaptic
[02:58] <yofel> andresmh: medibuntu is a repository, not a package
[02:59] <yofel> well, I'm off to bed too, gn folks
[03:00] <Sarvatt> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update
[03:00] <Sarvatt> paste that into terminal :)
[03:01] <Sarvatt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:03] <andresmh> cool, did that and it worked
[04:05] <billybigrig> Sarvatt: any word on when a fix for usb devices and udev is on the way?
[04:10] <Sarvatt> why do you ask like I know what the problem is or would be able to fix it? :D
[04:10] <billybigrig> honestly, i thought you were a dev
[04:10] <Sarvatt> nope
[04:11] <Sarvatt> i havent seen anything though, been busy fixing x stuff and it hasnt bugged me enough yet to look into it
[04:11] <billybigrig> hmm
[04:12] <greg> hey everyone - anyone know the best kernel for iwlagn for a 5100 to get N speeds?
[04:12] <greg> I've tried backports as well as 2.6.30-31beta2....
[04:13] <greg> 65Mbps fastest I can get, but same laptop in same spot in windoze gets over 200
[04:39] <iamtechno> Having graphics issues after install 9.10. Can't install fglrx from the repos.
[04:42] <Sarvatt> fglrx isnt working on 2.6.31 yet
[04:43] <Sarvatt> install the 2.6.30-10.12 kernel and headers for now if you need fglrx
[04:46] <iamtechno> Sarvatt, okay will try. Uname -a says that I'm using 2.6.27, which I thought was 8.10? I don;t quite understand what's going on.
[04:46] <DaskreeCH> high-rez: okie :)
[04:47] <high-rez> <--- grabbing a nightly
[04:48] <DaskreeCH> high-rez: what are you testing?
[04:49] <high-rez> DaskreeCH: Are you asking me if I'm unit testing a specific component?  ;)
[04:50] <DaskreeCH> Or looking out for something specific
[04:50] <high-rez> Well I'm curious about stability improvements in the bluetooth stack - but also just in gneral
[04:51] <DanaG> Biggest thing you can do for bluetooth on even Jaunty: install Blueman.
[04:51] <DanaG> The default Gnome bluetooth thingy is literally useless.
[04:51] <high-rez> There are frankly a number of ugly bugs in 9.04 - and i'm interested in see what has been addressed.
[04:52] <high-rez> DanaG: I should add, for your entertainment, i'm actually using kubuntu.  :)
[04:52] <DanaG> Does KDE even have a bluetooth thingy?
[04:53] <high-rez> Yeah - works about as well as the gnome one.
[04:53] <DanaG> Can you do more than just "pair"?
[04:53] <DanaG> TO me, the Gnome one is useless.
[04:53] <high-rez> Both tell me my E71 has no services.  And I've tried several 3G cards that just don't seem to work either.
[04:53] <DanaG> Okay, I've paired the device.  .... now what?
[04:53] <DanaG> Gnome thingy has no way to now DO anything with those devices!
[04:53] <high-rez> well the gnome one at least allows you to browse the devices filesystems - i tried that and it worked.
[04:54] <DanaG> Try doing that with headphones.  =þ
[04:54] <high-rez> yeah, well i dont blame them there.  the a2dp profile is a real pita - and is also adapter dependant.
[04:55] <high-rez> Heck pairing headphones doesn't even work well in OS X in my opinion.
[04:55] <DanaG> Works fine with BlueMan.  =þ
[04:56] <high-rez> Intereting - i'll def give that a try
[04:56] <DanaG> BlueMan tells PulseAudio to connect to the device; that's how it does it.
[04:56] <DanaG> Works way better than the old way, that used to give me kernel BUGs and Oopses and PANICs, oh my!
[04:57] <high-rez> I'm pretty darned impressed how far the linux desktop has come.  Especially kde.  Its UI is beautiful these days.
[04:57] <DanaG> Can't say I've tried the recent KDE versions.  I tried KDE 4 and 4.1, and found it too "bulky".
[04:58] <DanaG> Note that bulky != bloaty.
[04:59] <high-rez> really? i think it makes better use of screen real estate and gnome.  the two bars by default are just a waste (not to mention the asthetics)
[05:00] <DaskreeCH> DanaG: What is bulky then?
[05:01] <high-rez> i think back in the keramilk timefame that might have been arguable.  i dont know - today I think its one of hte nicest desktops out there, exceeding its two commercial competitors in terms of asthetics.
[05:02] <DanaG> My theme: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot.png -- note, it's 1920x1200.
[05:03] <kklimonda> heh, my desktop is still default ;)
[05:05] <billybigrig> DanaG: you should give gnome-do and docky a try
[05:05] <billybigrig> get rid of that bottom panel
[05:06] <high-rez> i liked awn as a gnome dock
[05:06] <DanaG> I haven't liked any of the docks I've tried.
[05:06] <DanaG> A panel ends up taking up less vertical space.
[05:06] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and my fonts are big because I set DPI correctly: 147 DPI display.
[05:08] <billybigrig> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=120489&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1247159835
[05:08] <billybigrig> 147?
[05:08] <billybigrig> i think i have mine at 86
[05:08] <ripps> So, what exactly is keeping upstart back?
[05:08] <Stik> power management working fine for you all?
[05:09] <ripps> powermanagement is fine, I just want my wacom tablet to work at boot and the leds on my keyboard to light up correctly
[05:10] <ripps> Oh, and I want my autologin back, I haven't been able to get it to work with the new gdm
[05:10] <Stik> switching from battery to ac and back is really slow here... once I suspend and come back it doesn't even recognise I have a battery lol
[05:10] <DanaG> 1920x1200, 15".  Badassery.  Sheer badassery.
[05:11] <DanaG> Like, try zooming in on the image... you can zoom in quite far before it becomes pixelated.
[05:14] <ripps> hmm... upstart wants to remove apparmor... that's not right
[05:31] <Sarvatt> i didnt notice because i removed apparmor long ago since it hasnt even been in the karmic kernel :D
[05:34] <DanaG> Hmm, it also wants to remove ubuntu-minimal.
[07:13] <nandemonai> Hi guys.
[07:13] <nandemonai> What's the recommended upgrade method for the Alpha?
[07:14] <ripps> okay, totem-video-thumbnailer is unacceptably slow. It causes my nautilus to use up all my ram and it grinds my computer to a halt for several minutes. It does this even if it's thumbnailed everything, and it only starts to overfill my ram after it's done thumbnailing. this smells of leak to me.
[07:18] <Ian_> nandemonai: update-manager -d
[07:42] <nandemonai> Thanks Ian_
[08:38] <ripps> Dammit, not all of us have gigabytes of ram to handle a memory leak in Nautilus, I"m switching to thunar until somebody fixes this
[10:45] <dupondje> haay :)
[10:45] <dupondje> somebody awake that has brasero ?
[10:46] <Ian_> i have it buyt my dvd-writer is not connected :p
[10:46] <dupondje> damn
[10:46] <dupondje> :(
[11:21] <ghindo> Any reason why libcompress-raw-zlib-perl is being held back?
[11:50] <holzmodem> how can i enable desktop-switching via the mouse scroll-wheel ?
[12:19]  * gnomefreak knows why its held back yes there is a reason (depends issues) but hes gone
[12:21] <gnomefreak> looks like its not held back here
[13:06] <indus> hi
[13:12] <eagles0513875> hey indus
[13:12] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having an issue compilling koffice from source in repos
[13:13] <eagles0513875> ./configure works but when i come to run amake it says no targets specified and no makefile found is something missing in the source or something else
[13:17] <indus> eagles0513875: hi
[13:17] <indus> eagles0513875: do i know u?
[13:17] <eagles0513875> hoes goes it
[13:17] <indus> eagles0513875: maybe i do
[13:18] <eagles0513875> indus: dont think so
[13:18] <indus> eagles0513875: so how is karmic? stable? does it look any different
[13:18] <eagles0513875> some issues i have run into but nothing serious mostly with the plasma-widget-network-manager on kde 4.3
[13:18] <indus> i hear it wont have a brown window border finally
[13:19] <indus> aah kde thats gorgeous
[13:56] <holzmodem> hi, sometimes it occur that karmic disable my display (not idling). the last entries of Xorg.0.log <snip>disable LVDS  disable LVDS enable LVDS </snip>, the big question ist WHY?
[13:57] <nanomad> holzmodem, same here
[13:57] <nanomad> holzmodem, do you have an ati card?
[13:57] <holzmodem> yes
[13:57] <holzmodem> ati 9700 (mobility)
[13:58] <nanomad> mobility X700 here
[13:58] <nanomad> so i guess it could be a radeon-driver problem
[13:58] <holzmodem> i think this is the same series rv350
[13:58] <nanomad> yes
[13:59] <nanomad> would you mind posting this issue on the forums?
[13:59] <holzmodem> do have filed a bugreport? any solutions?
[13:59] <nanomad> i'm filling one right now
[13:59] <holzmodem> paste the number here, so i can confrim it...
[14:00] <nanomad> ok. Since we are here, what happens if you put your PC to sleep? (Suspend 2 Ram)
[14:00] <nanomad> does it work?
[14:01] <holzmodem> since gutsy the suspend 2 ram doesnt work (black screen)
[14:01] <nanomad> mhh, here it worked (until the last updates)
[14:01] <nanomad> but i guess it is another issue
[14:03] <holzmodem> what AccelMethod are you using? EXA or XAA ?
[14:04] <nanomad> mhh
[14:05] <nanomad> EXA
[14:05] <nanomad> you?
[14:05] <holzmodem> XAA have to switch, because of random hard freezes
[14:06] <nanomad> holzmodem, ok. I'm opening a bug against xserver-xorg-video-ati
[14:06] <nanomad> description: Screen randomly goes off in karmic
[14:06] <nanomad> does it sound right?
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> nanomad sorry man what are you talking about?
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> sometimes my screen just go off
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> and then on
[14:07] <nanomad> mhh, ok
[14:07] <nanomad> radeon card?
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> oh yeah
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> no
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> nvidia
[14:07] <nanomad> what card do you have?
[14:07] <nanomad> mhh ok
[14:07] <Bmw1000c> 7600gt
[14:07] <nanomad> what does grep LVDS /var/log/Xorg.0* say?
[14:08] <Bmw1000c> nothing
[14:08] <holzmodem> Bmw1000c, look at the last entries <snip>disable LVDS  disable LVDS enable LVDS </snip>
[14:08] <Bmw1000c> bmw@bmw-desktop:~$ grep LVDS /var/log/Xorg.0*
[14:08] <Bmw1000c> bmw@bmw-desktop:~$
[14:09] <nanomad> would you mind posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere?
[14:09] <holzmodem> is it a laptop?
[14:09] <Bmw1000c> no
[14:09] <Bmw1000c> !paste
[14:09] <nanomad> Bmw1000c, try grep disable /var/log/Xorg.0*
[14:09] <Bmw1000c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/214704/
[14:10] <Bmw1000c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/214705/
[14:10] <nanomad> Bmw1000c, did this happen since you logged in?
[14:10] <Bmw1000c> yeah i think
[14:11] <Bmw1000c> i'm 95% sure :P
[14:11] <nanomad> Bmw1000c, post /var/log/messages
[14:12] <Bmw1000c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/214710/
[14:13] <nanomad> Bmw1000c, i do not see anything strange in your logs
[14:13] <nanomad> :(
[14:13] <nanomad> maybe it is a different problem
[14:13] <Bmw1000c> maybe
[14:13] <Bmw1000c> this happens like 2 times per day
[14:13] <bmunger> Is there a reason on Karmic that it wants to remove parts of upstart and apparmor on dist-upgrade?
[14:14] <nanomad> bmunger, just don't do a dist-upgrade yet
[14:14] <nanomad> it is beign worked on (new upstart packaging incoming)
[14:15] <bmunger> alright thats what I thought, for now I did a regular upgrade which takes care of some of that
[14:16] <nanomad> ok
[14:16] <bmunger> thanks
[14:17] <Bmw1000c> brb booting in jaunty because i cant burn any dvd with karmic <_<
[14:19] <nanomad> bmunger, you are welcome
[14:19] <nanomad> holzmodem, #397839
[14:19] <holzmodem> nanomad, i search launchpad, the last update of ati driver was 2009-06-30, maybe it is a issue of xserver core https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati
[14:21] <nanomad> holzmodem, well, looking at the latest xorg changes, there is nothing related to this bug
[14:22] <nanomad> holzmodem, are you using gnome or kde?
[14:23] <holzmodem> gnome
[14:23] <nanomad> it could be a bug in gnome-power-manager: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager
[14:25] <nanomad> holzmodem, what does ls /proc/acpi/battery say?
[14:26] <holzmodem> i have no battery in laptop, on ac
[14:27] <nanomad> but how battery does ACPI report?
[14:39] <nanomad> holzmodem, i've downgraded gnome-power-manager to see if that helps
[14:39] <holzmodem> ok
[14:40] <nanomad> holzmodem, if you want to try, here it is: https://edge.launchpad.net/~macslow/+archive/ppa/+build/1084147
[14:46] <nanomad> holzmodem, would you mind running /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-bugreport &> gpm.log
[14:46] <nanomad> and posting your gpm.log?
[14:48] <holzmodem> hmm, Distro version:       squeeze/sid ???
[14:49] <nanomad> holzmodem, thats ok
[14:49] <holzmodem> http://pastie.org/541325
[14:49] <nanomad> thanks
[14:50] <nanomad> also run lshal -m > lshal.log.txt
[14:50] <nanomad> and post lshal.log.txt when the problem occours
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Hello, BluesKaj
[15:30] <BluesKaj> hi charlie-tca
[15:35] <BluesKaj> well, amarok2  loses for radio streams , it's broken pretty badly on my setup. VLC is the definite alternative ..too bad that amarok1.4 won't run on karmic either .
[15:39] <Ian_> eww amarok
[15:43]  * BluesKaj streams Little Feat-Dixie Chicken
[16:20] <Zorael^2> Will the Karmic flashplugin-nonfree package install the native 64-bit flash on 64-bit systems, or still the wrapped 32-bit one?
[16:24] <itswhatev> Zorael^2: not sure but you can read all about it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/amd64/flashplugin-nonfree/10.0.22.87ubuntu2
[17:10] <dupondje> gvfs broken ?
[17:16] <SeveredCross> WORKSFORME, I'm current as of sometime yesterday.
[17:18] <Q-FUNK> hm.  is the new upstart that entered karmic today missing components or transitional packages, by any chance?
[17:18] <dupondje> I get 'Invalid Argument' when I try to copy files from a share :(
[17:18] <dupondje> extremely annoying
[17:24] <natewiebe131> with the bug in alpha 2 not being able to install with other operating systems already installed, is it possible to update karmic while running the live cd, then installing?
[17:24] <natewiebe131> would that work?
[17:25] <natewiebe131> anyone?
[17:27] <Zorael> I just used a daily live
[17:28] <natewiebe131> where are they located?
[17:28] <natewiebe131> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/?
[17:28] <natewiebe131> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ that where they are?
[17:35] <natewiebe131> how about the new gdm.. it got updated right?
[17:40] <natewiebe131> ?
[17:45] <dupondje> is there a way to debug gvfs ?
[17:50] <Zorael> natewiebe131: I used unetbootin to download it to a usb stick, that link looks about right though
[17:52] <natewiebe131> Zorael: i heard that the gdm got updated
[17:52] <natewiebe131> Zorael: how is it different
[17:52] <natewiebe131> ?
[17:52] <Zorael> natewiebe131: I run Kubuntu so can't help you there
[17:52] <natewiebe131> Zorael: okay.. thanks
[17:54] <natewiebe131> anyone know if the gdm got updated?
[17:58] <Zorael> natewiebe131: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gdm/gdm_2.26.1-0ubuntu5/changelog
[18:14] <dupondje> somebody knows how to debug gvfs ?
[18:14] <dupondje> cause file copy is broken here
[18:43] <yofel> hi folks
[18:43] <billybigrigger> howdy
[18:49] <charlie-tca> Hello, yofel
[19:42] <BUGabundo> bun nuit
[19:45] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[19:45] <BUGabundo> hey yofel BluesKaj DanaG
[19:45] <BUGabundo> how the heck do I get read of GRUB2 splash?!??!!?
[19:45]  * BUGabundo is going nuts
[19:45] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo
[19:46] <charlie-tca> Good Afternoon, BUGabundo
[19:46] <charlie-tca> Great question!
[19:46] <BluesKaj> amarok is really broken on my setup , but not toworry ..good ol' VLC to the rescue :)
[19:46] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca [[]]
[19:47] <charlie-tca> I had to go to .30.10 kernel myself.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/12/16/how-to-grub2-and-grub-pc-installing-splash-images/
[19:48] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: it's the oposite: I want it removed!
[19:48] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I need to teste -31.2 for leann!
[19:48] <BUGabundo> my cpu is always at max clock speed :((
[19:48] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo :)
[19:48] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[19:49] <BUGabundo> miss you guy! what have you been up to?
[19:49] <BUGabundo> wanna a pizza slice?
[19:49] <charlie-tca> What a deal! I can't get -31.2 to read any blank cd-r's. Makes image burning really bad
[19:49] <BUGabundo> I needed to get grub2 to _see_ -31.2
[19:49] <BUGabundo> grub1 would not see it LOLOL
[19:49] <charlie-tca> among other minor inconveniences
[19:49] <BUGabundo> only 31.3
[19:49] <BluesKaj> in other words just take the splash image in this line for ex ,/Plasma-lamp :  for i in {/boot/grub,/usr/share/images/desktop-base,/usr/share/images/grub}/Plasma-lamp.{png,tga}
[19:50] <BUGabundo> *31.1
[19:50] <charlie-tca> same thing
[19:50]  * BUGabundo misses how easy it was on grub-legacy
[19:50] <charlie-tca> agreed
[19:50] <kklimonda> -31.2? 31.3? Is that some kind of code? :)
[19:50] <yofel> BUGabundo: if you want to get rid of the grub2 splash image then edit /etc/grub.d/05_... and change the image filename into something nonexistant
[19:50] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, i repeat, just take the splash image in this line for ex ,/Plasma-lamp :  for i in {/boot/grub,/usr/share/images/desktop-base,/usr/share/images/grub}/Plasma-lamp.{png,tga}
[19:51] <ripps> the gecko mediaplayer plugin keeps resetting my volume to max whenever it starts playing, does anybody know how to remedy this?
[19:51] <charlie-tca> kklimonda: shoort for 2.26.31.2-generic kernel
[19:52] <DanaG> I switched back to grub1.
[19:52] <DanaG> Grub2 refuses to install to a partition.
[19:53] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, take the image reference out that fits in the same place in that line as /Plasma-lamp is in the one above
[19:54] <DanaG> ugh, damned notify-osd.
[19:55]  * charlie-tca nods
[19:55] <DanaG> Something temporarily broke my audio, and made my music player skip 5 tracks at once.
[19:55] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: still it's an hack!
[19:55] <BUGabundo> I want a option on the conf!
[19:55] <DanaG> And it tooks a really frickin' annoyingly long time to show all the bubbles.
[19:55] <yofel> BUGabundo: grub2 doesn't have that :(
[19:55] <BluesKaj> an hack ?
[19:55] <yofel> (yet I hope)
[19:55] <DanaG> I also have a hotkey to toggle ambient light sensor, and I have it use notify-send... and the damned bubble stays up for 10 SECONDS!
[19:56] <DanaG> Ugh, still going on the track-change.
[19:56] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, it's not a hack , it's an edit :)
[19:56] <BluesKaj> DanaG, which music player?
[19:57]  * BUGabundo wants to file an wishbug on grub2 splash option
[19:57] <BUGabundo> where is upstream ?
[19:57] <DanaG> quodlibet.
[19:57] <DanaG> But they ALL do that skipping multiple tracks if, say, PulseAudio dies.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> DanaG, if it's amaork , consider yourseldf lucky that it works at all
[19:58] <BluesKaj> amarok
[19:58] <DanaG> "quodlibet.".
[20:03] <Lademord> Okay, I'm jumping aboard the Karmic train now. See you guys on the other side!
[20:04] <BUGabundo> welcome abroad Lademord
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Oh what fun we are having now! ;-)
[20:06] <BUGabundo> OT: was anyone done an whois on microsoft.com ? ROFL
[20:07] <yofel> hey cool, now that g-p-m finally correctly recognizes both of my batteries it crashes every time I plug the power supply in -.-
[20:08] <Lademord> I'm praying for the ALSA upgrade to work with my Creative X-Fi sound card as promised by the gods
[20:14] <BUGabundo> ok PIZZA time! back in 30
[20:57] <billybigrig> ola all
[21:26] <BUGabundo> guys quick
[21:27] <BUGabundo> heard something about the latest update messing
[21:27] <BUGabundo> with GDM?
[21:27] <BUGabundo> I'm just upgrading
[21:27] <BUGabundo> should I abort?
[21:30] <ikonia> what have you heard ?
[21:30] <BUGabundo> ikonia: Bmw1000c told me he can't reach his desktop
[21:30] <BUGabundo> it hangs after login
[21:30] <BUGabundo> only a few panel icons show up
[21:31] <BUGabundo> gnome-panel (1:2.26.3-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low
[21:31] <BUGabundo> I have this update waiting to install
[21:31] <BUGabundo> could be it! :s
[21:31] <ikonia> BUGabundo: when was this, mine booted fine earlier
[21:32] <BUGabundo> Bmw1000c: ^^^^
[21:33] <Bmw1000c> sorry my highlight is disabled here
[21:33] <BUGabundo> is it? how did you do that?
[21:33] <BUGabundo> oh wait.... irissi lol
[21:33] <Bmw1000c> anyways, i did an apt-get upgrade and my problem is solved
[21:33] <BUGabundo> ohh
[21:33] <BUGabundo> ok then
[21:34] <BUGabundo> let me isntall my updates
[21:34] <Bmw1000c> uh oh lol my mouse just froze
[21:34] <Bmw1000c> system frozen
[21:36] <BUGabundo> ahahahah
[21:36] <BUGabundo> hey hggdh
[21:37] <BluesKaj> Bmw1000c, alt+shift+F12
[21:37] <Bmw1000c> too late, hard reset
[21:37] <BluesKaj> well, remember it :)
[21:37] <Bmw1000c> thanks anyways
[21:37] <Bmw1000c> yeah eheh
[21:38] <Bmw1000c> oh, BUGabundo
[21:38] <Bmw1000c> after all, it is not solved
[21:38] <BUGabundo> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:38] <Bmw1000c> i can click in the desktop items, but it is very very slow
[21:38] <Bmw1000c> oh
[21:38] <Bmw1000c> wait
[21:39] <BluesKaj> bbl , gotta stop this piggybacking :)
[21:39] <Bmw1000c> yeah it is taking a lot of time to respond
[21:40] <DPic> is today's liveCD broken?
[21:40] <BUGabundo> DPic: aren't they all ?
[21:40] <DPic> BUGabundo, i've never had a problem with any of them
[21:40] <DPic> today's the first time it didn't work
[21:42] <BUGabundo> DPic: define: "didn't work"
[21:42] <BluesKaj> my dumb neighbour won't use a pw and WPA on his wifi router and ppl are piggy-backing on his cable connection..I've told hm several times
[21:42] <DPic> didn't boot in vitrualbox-- gdm was all screwy
[21:43] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: LOLOL but OT
[21:43] <ghindo> Is there any reason that the package libcompress-raw-zlip-perl is being held back when I run updates?
[22:11] <bmw1000c_lol> 80% awn
[22:11] <bmw1000c_lol> 100% compiz
[22:13] <BUGabundo> how does the new GDM do auto login??
[22:13] <billybigrig> bmw1000c_lol: you tried gnome-do & docky?
[22:13] <BUGabundo> mine stop working
[22:13] <bmw1000c_lol> what do you mean billybigrig
[22:13] <billybigrig>  bmw1000c_lol kicks awn's bum
[22:13] <BUGabundo> but bmw1000c_lol says his does it
[22:13] <bmw1000c_lol> oh
[22:13] <bmw1000c_lol> i never tried
[22:14] <billybigrig> i tried awn for a few minutes, then tried gnome-do's dock and never went back
[22:14] <billybigrig> that was a few weeks ago
[22:14] <bmw1000c_lol> eheh
[22:15] <SeveredCross> Docky is win.
[22:16] <bmw1000c_lol> SEEMS
[22:17] <bmw1000c_lol> it SEEMS that removing awn solved my problem
[22:17] <bmw1000c_lol> hell yeah
[22:17] <bmw1000c_lol> xorg 0%
[22:17] <bmw1000c_lol> woo
[22:17] <bmw1000c_lol> awn bug?
[22:17] <BUGabundo> billybigrig and who have you to thank !?!?
[22:18] <bmw1000c_lol> my name is bmw1000c_lol
[22:18] <bmw1000c_lol> :P
[22:18] <BUGabundo> bmw1000c_lol: I never used awn
[22:18] <BUGabundo> but I have DO and DO is eating a lot of CPU
[22:18] <bmw1000c_lol> let me install it again
[22:18] <BUGabundo> but I can't leave without it ! :(
[22:18] <billybigrig> BUGabundo: thanks to you! :)
[22:18] <bmw1000c_lol> live?
[22:19] <SeveredCross> BUGabundo: What graphics card?
[22:19] <SeveredCross> Do here hardly uses any CPU with a Mobility Radeon X1400 (R500 I think, uses the free radeon driver w/ 3D).
[22:19] <bmw1000c_lol> oh yeah, i reinstalled AWN and my system is broken again
[22:19] <bmw1000c_lol> lol
[22:19] <bmw1000c_lol> should i open a bug report? :P
[22:19] <bmw1000c_lol> can anyone confirm it?
[22:19] <yofel> BUGabundo: cpu usage is ok here, but using >1GiB RAM not -.-  (can't live without it either though :P)
[22:20] <BUGabundo> SeveredCross: nvidia
[22:20] <SeveredCross> Ahha.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> bmw1000c_lol: please do
[22:20] <SeveredCross> Though I use Do from the Do PPA.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> bmw1000c_lol: $ ubuntu-bug awn
[22:20] <BUGabundo> SeveredCross: me too
[22:20] <SeveredCross> Interesting.
[22:21] <BUGabundo>  *** 0.8.2+dfsg-0~9.10~ppa1 0
[22:21] <SeveredCross> Do does use a fair bit of memory (6.7% of 2 GB) but it's not really excessive
[22:21] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy gnome-do | pastebinit  http://paste.ubuntu.com/215101/
[22:21] <BUGabundo> $ top | grep do
[22:21] <BUGabundo>  8685 bugabund 119m  23m 459m  20   0 S  1.0  3.0   1:20.51 /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe
[22:22] <BUGabundo>  8528 654728    154        843K 957.4M 238.9M 957.4M 238.9M   6% pidgin
[22:22] <BUGabundo> 12940 374173     80         82K 800.0M 210.3M 800.0M 210.3M   5% firefox-3.6
[22:22] <BUGabundo> 13315 169283      0       2106K 639.3M 155.1M 639.3M 155.1M   4% gwibber
[22:22] <BUGabundo>  8685 919681     42       2444K 578.7M 119.3M 578.7M 119.3M   3% gnome-do
[22:22] <BUGabundo> DO doesn't even come close to the others
[22:22] <BUGabundo> heeh
[22:23] <SeveredCross> Holy crap.
[22:23] <SeveredCross> My top 5 are MonoDevelop, Firefox, Do, Xorg and Banshee (in that order).
[22:24] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:24] <SeveredCross> MD is using something like 400 MB, but it's a full IDE with lots of tabs and things, so I expect heavy memory usage.
[22:24] <BUGabundo> so is pidgin
[22:24] <BUGabundo> with 16 accounts
[22:24] <SeveredCross> Yowza.
[22:24] <BUGabundo> and several HUGE logs cached
[22:24] <BUGabundo> firefox is a bit heavy for 4 tabs alone
[22:26] <bmw1000c_lol> bug #398008
[22:41] <BUGabundo> Bmw1000c The following partially installed packages will be configured:  libpam-gnome-keyring
[22:41] <BUGabundo> this must be the guilty one
[22:42] <Bmw1000c> wut?
[22:54] <Bmw1000c> bug #398018
[23:37] <mob> has karmik fixed the problem with intel 82830m gcc in xorg?