| goshawk | hi | 10:40 |
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| goshawk | lool: can i disturb you? | 10:40 |
| goshawk | lool: yesterday you told me to add console= to the command line | 10:41 |
| goshawk | but should i add only "console=" or should i put something else after it? | 10:41 |
| lool | goshawk: See the sample command line I pasted | 10:46 |
| lool | goshawk: 20:44 < lool> something like http://people.ubuntu.com/~lool/qemu-buildd/run | 10:46 |
| goshawk | wow | 10:46 |
| goshawk | can i add it to the rootfromscratch page? | 10:46 |
| goshawk | in the ubuntu wiki? | 10:46 |
| goshawk | i surfed on google and a lot of people have troubles | 10:46 |
| goshawk | with this console issue | 10:47 |
| goshawk | it works! | 10:48 |
| lool | goshawk: The rootfs from scratch page is about creating a rootfs not starting a qemu | 10:48 |
| goshawk | thanks a lot lool! | 10:48 |
| goshawk | lool: there is a section in starting qemu too | 10:48 |
| goshawk | wait | 10:48 |
| lool | goshawk: You're welcome to start a wiki page about qemu console options | 10:48 |
| lool | goshawk: That's probably where you want to add the information then | 10:49 |
| goshawk | lool: Using a qemu image | 10:49 |
| goshawk | in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch | 10:49 |
| goshawk | yep | 10:49 |
| goshawk | i want to add this info there :) | 10:49 |
| lool | goshawk: Oh sure, that makes sense then | 10:50 |
| lool | Only the console arg is missing actually | 10:50 |
| goshawk | yes | 10:51 |
| ogra | apart from the fact that rootfs from scrtch doesnt enable a serial console and the qemu command is supposed to run an SDL login | 10:51 |
| goshawk | ogra: i was thinking to add... if you wanna run it in a console do bla bla bla | 10:51 |
| ogra | can you add a completely new section with a proper qemu commandline as well as instructions how to ser up a serial tty ? | 10:51 |
| goshawk | yep | 10:52 |
| ogra | there is no serial tty configured by default | 10:52 |
| ogra | though i was planning to att it in the next release of https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock :) | 10:52 |
| goshawk | lool: there is a problem, after i see kernel message i just see "Freeing init memory: 136K" and nothing more, no login prompt | 10:52 |
| ogra | thats what i meant :) | 10:53 |
| lool | goshawk: -nographic only supports the serial console, not vts | 10:53 |
| ogra | upstart isnt configured to start a serial tty | 10:53 |
| * goshawk remember that in a debian he just added -nographic to an armel image and it worked... uhm | 10:54 | |
| goshawk | ogra: so upstart should start a serial tty for it to work | 10:54 |
| ogra | right you need to edit the image | 10:55 |
| * goshawk removes the -nographic option and takes the console= from lool | 10:55 | |
| ogra | see the /etc/event.d/ttyS0 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto ... thats what you need to add | 10:55 |
| lool | goshawk: Use alt-shift 3 to go to serial console | 10:56 |
| goshawk | lool: thx, but i need to exit from the screen program, cuz alt-shift is got by its | 10:57 |
| goshawk | ogra: uhm.. so the script to generate the image should add the SerialConsole which is in that page, isn't it? | 10:58 |
| ogra | well or you loop mount the image and add it | 10:58 |
| ogra | the next generation of the script (at https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock) will have an option for it | 10:59 |
| goshawk | ogra: is it already implemented? | 10:59 |
| ogra | nope | 10:59 |
| goshawk | ok thanks for all the suggestions | 11:02 |
| goshawk | now i gotta go | 11:02 |
| goshawk | thanks again :) | 11:02 |
| ogra | echo "start on runlevel 2" >/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "start on runlevel 3" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "start on runlevel 4" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "start on runlevel 5" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "stop on runlevel 0" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "stop on runlevel 1" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "stop on runlevel 6" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "respawn" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | echo "exec /sbin/getty 115200 ttyS0" >>/etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 11:04 |
| ogra | ^^^^ | 11:04 |
| ogra | add that between the "echo LANG=${NEWLOCALE} >>/etc/environment" and the first sed command | 11:04 |
| ogra | then it will create /etc/event.d/ttyS0 by default on your next build | 11:04 |
| goshawk | ah :) | 11:05 |
| goshawk | good! | 11:05 |
| goshawk | thx a lot ogra | 11:06 |
| ogra | :) | 11:06 |
| goshawk | ogra: what aobut editing /etc/inittab? | 11:07 |
| goshawk | and add #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 | 11:07 |
| ogra | its just a quick hack ... project-rootstock will have it cleaner | 11:07 |
| ogra | no | 11:07 |
| ogra | there is no inittab in ubuntu since 6.06 anymore | 11:07 |
| ogra | just add the above and you will have a serial tty | 11:07 |
| goshawk | ah so the page about serial console is outdated | 11:07 |
| ogra | no | 11:07 |
| ogra | you read it to sloppy :) | 11:07 |
| goshawk | --- Configuring inittab (Dapper and older) --- | 11:08 |
| goshawk | sorry | 11:08 |
| goshawk | i didn't read this line | 11:08 |
| ogra | ;) | 11:08 |
| goshawk | :) | 11:08 |
| ogra | should be a proper header then it would be bold | 11:08 |
| lool | Oh Debian has instructions to cross debootstrap too | 11:10 |
| lool | http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiHowto didn't see these until now | 11:10 |
| * goshawk creates a new image | 11:10 | |
| goshawk | lool: i used it before | 11:11 |
| goshawk | is has networking configured too | 11:11 |
| goshawk | on qemu | 11:11 |
| goshawk | we were based on it on mer development | 11:11 |
| ogra | is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto clearer now ? | 11:11 |
| goshawk | ogra: thx, now it's better | 11:12 |
| ogra | good ... | 11:12 |
| ogra | the evil is that it needs a completely new section for karmic since yesterday | 11:12 |
| ogra | so it will become more confusing | 11:12 |
| goshawk | what happened yesterday? | 11:12 |
| ogra | upstart changed completely | 11:12 |
| goshawk | new upstart version? | 11:12 |
| ogra | no more /etc/event.d | 11:12 |
| * goshawk hopes it changed better | 11:13 | |
| lool | ogra: upstart is madness | 11:19 |
| ogra | once it works as it should it will be sexy i guess | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | no more event.d? what does it use -then-? | 11:19 |
| ogra | the years long transition is madness, i agree | 11:20 |
| lool | /etc/init? I'm not sure | 11:20 |
| ogra | /etc/init/ | 11:20 |
| ogra | and a new file format | 11:20 |
| ogra | yes | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | lovely | 11:20 |
| ogra | files have .conf suffixes now and the command syntax in them changed | 11:20 |
| ogra | ogra@osiris:/var/build$ cat /etc/init/tty1.conf |grep -v ^# | 11:21 |
| ogra | start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345] | 11:21 |
| ogra | stop on runlevel [!2345] | 11:21 |
| ogra | respawn | 11:21 |
| ogra | exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1 | 11:21 |
| goshawk | it's quite the same | 11:21 |
| goshawk | time to add to the serial console page? | 11:22 |
| ogra | well, even though i assume you only need to change the getty line it should be tested before being added to the wiki :) | 11:23 |
| lool | ogra: I think uboot also supports ext2 (marvell's does); could we perhaps use that to avoid a separate /boot if the host is installed with ext2/3/4? | 11:27 |
| ogra | well, we default to ext4 | 11:27 |
| lool | Yes | 11:28 |
| * goshawk I: Unpacking the base system... | 11:28 | |
| ogra | is that ext2 backwards compatible ? | 11:28 |
| ogra | like ext3 ? | 11:29 |
| * ogra thought it wasnt | 11:29 | |
| goshawk | as far as i know there is a tool to switch from ext3 to ext4 | 11:29 |
| goshawk | but i've never used it | 11:30 |
| ogra | yes, but can you mount etx4 as ext2 ? | 11:30 |
| goshawk | dunno | 11:30 |
| lool | ogra: I don't know | 11:30 |
| goshawk | you can mount any ext2 or ext3 filesystem as ext4 without any changes | 11:30 |
| goshawk | from google | 11:30 |
| lool | ogra: But perhaps uboot logic will work with ext2+? | 11:30 |
| ogra | no idea :) | 11:31 |
| lool | ogra: Might be worth investigating for your fsl spec perhaps? | 11:31 |
| ogra | http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/U-Boot_Quick_Reference#Load_kernel_.2Fboot.2FuImage.sheeva.20090319_from_ext2.2Fext3.2Fext4_filesystem_.28first_partition.29_on_USB_device | 11:31 |
| ogra | sheva seems to be able to use ext4 | 11:31 |
| lool | ogra: I think we also want to find a way to allow upgrades from jaunty | 11:32 |
| ogra | so it might be possible | 11:32 |
| ogra | ugh, shudder | 11:32 |
| ogra | that might get hairy | 11:32 |
| ogra | replacing the botloader and all | 11:32 |
| lool | I think we can manage with flash-kernel.conf being present or not | 11:32 |
| ogra | we dont do that on x86 | 11:32 |
| lool | I don't think we want to replace it | 11:33 |
| ogra | though grub1 will still work there | 11:33 |
| ogra | oh, you want to boot .31 on B1 with old redboot ? | 11:33 |
| ogra | hmm, i wonder if that will work | 11:33 |
| lool | Yes | 11:33 |
| lool | It depends whether the proto (which should be fairly stable) changed or not between 28 and 31 | 11:35 |
| lool | Dunno what broke between 26 and 28 | 11:35 |
| ogra | amitk, did you try booting .31 on B1 ? | 11:35 |
| lool | ogra: Could you cleanup the whiteboard in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/banshee/+bug/391588 | 11:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 391588 in banshee "banshee fails to run on arm" [High,New] | 11:36 |
| lool | release team meeting today | 11:36 |
| ogra | you mean rip out the stuff from the description ? | 11:37 |
| ogra | sure | 11:37 |
| lool | ogra: Make it an attachment or something | 11:37 |
| lool | ogra: Don't forget this stuff is copied on ALL emails | 11:38 |
| lool | It would also be nice if you could get a new backtrace | 11:38 |
| ogra | ripped out | 11:38 |
| ogra | i'll attach the LVDS to my pegatron after lunch and try to get a proper backtrace together | 11:38 |
| ogra | sadly you cant run banshee remotely ... | 11:39 |
| ogra | dies becaue of dbus | 11:39 |
| goshawk | well ogra, after the changes you told me | 11:55 |
| goshawk | i built a new image | 11:55 |
| goshawk | and booted with | 11:56 |
| goshawk | sudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -kernel vmlinuz-2.6.28-versatile -cpu arm926 -hda qemu-armel-200907101210.img -m 256M -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M" -nographic | 11:56 |
| goshawk | still no login | 11:56 |
| amitk | ogra: yes I did. Fail. But please feel free to try it again. | 11:56 |
| goshawk | adding the console= settings from lool | 11:56 |
| ogra | yeah, you need to tell the kernel to use a serial console | 11:56 |
| lool | goshawk: Use graphics or setup a serial console | 11:57 |
| lool | goshawk: Which upstart version in your image? | 11:57 |
| goshawk | lool: wait i see in the log | 11:57 |
| ogra | by default the script still builds jaunty | 11:58 |
| lool | ogra: Are you still planning to deal with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bug-zapper/+bug/392094 ? I don't see an assignee, but if you don't intend to work on it that's fine | 11:58 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 392094 in bug-zapper "needs search option for bugs a team is subscribed to" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:58 |
| ogra | lool, i will, but its not on my high prio list | 11:58 |
| goshawk | lool: yep it's jaunty version | 11:58 |
| ogra | though given the babbage situation i might have a lot of spare time :P | 11:58 |
| lool | ogra: Hmm you're assigned to the karmic task in https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-keyring/+bug/328167 | 11:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328167 in gnome-keyring "[arm] gnome-keyring-daemon eating 100% CPU at login in Jaunty" [High,Fix released] | 11:59 |
| ogra | right, i need to set up a jaunty on my B1 | 12:00 |
| ogra | its just a confirmation for upstream though | 12:00 |
| ogra | not sure we need to target it to karmic | 12:00 |
| lool | amitk, bjf_afk: Whenever you're updating imx51's udebs, could you please address https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/359049 ? | 12:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 359049 in linux "imx51 udeb hardcodes linux version in vmlinuz binary name" [High,Won't fix] | 12:01 |
| * goshawk creates a new image with --seed openssh-server since he can ping the last image but he can't connect. | 12:01 | |
| ogra | did the serial console not come up ? | 12:02 |
| goshawk | ogra: no | 12:02 |
| goshawk | same behaviour as before | 12:02 |
| ogra | not even with proper console option? | 12:02 |
| goshawk | neither with console=ttyAMA0 console=tty0 | 12:02 |
| goshawk | and -nographic of course | 12:03 |
| ogra | console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 | 12:03 |
| goshawk | ok trying | 12:03 |
| ogra | thats what the build script uses :) | 12:03 |
| goshawk | yep i'm starting to see something more | 12:04 |
| ogra | so if you see it building after "I: Switching to Virtual Machine for second stage processing" that should work | 12:04 |
| goshawk | reeing init memory: 136K | 12:04 |
| goshawk | * Filesystem type 'fusectl' is not supported. Skipping mount. | 12:04 |
| goshawk | * Setting preliminary keymap.. | 12:04 |
| ogra | perfect | 12:04 |
| goshawk | yep it's working | 12:04 |
| goshawk | :) | 12:04 |
| ogra | :) | 12:04 |
| goshawk | well finally we have a working version ^__^ | 12:04 |
| lool | ogra: poke | 13:07 |
| lool | ogra: I reviewed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ArmelSubarchitectureImageBuilds and it looked ok | 13:07 |
| * ogra falls over | 13:07 | |
| ogra | cjwatson gave his ok as well already, david approved it | 13:07 |
| ogra | rootstock just grew a --serial and a --dist option | 13:08 |
| ogra | :) | 13:08 |
| NCommander | :-) | 13:14 |
| ogra | hmm, i made 10 commits to the rootstock branchbut LP only gives me 7 points as top committer | 13:30 |
| * ogra wonders how these numbers correlate | 13:31 | |
| ogra | hmm | 13:34 |
| ogra | did anyone of us ever try to run wine on armel ? | 13:34 |
| playya | sqrt(commits) + 4 | 13:34 |
| playya | should be impossible | 13:35 |
| ogra | would be funny if it worked ... | 13:35 |
| playya | because wine is x86 only | 13:35 |
| ogra | to run office 2000 install ubuntu and wine on your arm device :) | 13:35 |
| ogra | yeah, likely not working | 13:35 |
| playya | maybe you can start a project: wine embedded | 13:36 |
| ogra | why embedded ? | 13:36 |
| ogra | we dont do any embedded stuff :) | 13:36 |
| playya | or mobile, ... | 13:36 |
| * ogra wishes that team name could be changed since a long time | 13:36 | |
| playya | if you want to run wine on arm the acronym fails ( wine is not an emulator) | 13:37 |
| playya | you can ask sun to port virtaul box to arm | 13:38 |
| ogra | nah, they would probably only give me qemu-sparc :P | 13:39 |
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