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* thorwil wonders what to think of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Flowers08:18
knomesuggest it as the new logo of ubutnu for mark08:20
* knome hides08:20
thorwilkwwii: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu/discuss/72157617257225731/08:26
thorwilwhat the hell is the point of an additional ubuntu users group? http://www.flickr.com/groups/590097@N22/pool/08:28
thorwilpeople are strange08:28
thorwilwe have a Lord_Darth_Vader in the Community pool! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_darth_vader/1520509199/in/pool-ubuntu08:30
thorwili would have thought he's a pure windows user08:30
knittlhi. i've been watching the breathe icon set bzr branch now quite a while and want to try it out08:45
knittlhow can i install the icons? moving to /usr/share/icons/Breathe doesn't help08:45
knittlah no. it did. only had to close the appearance dialog08:46
knittlsry for the fuss08:46
thorwilSiDi: translation, please08:54
SiDithorwil: ballmer says "join the obscure side of the force"09:02
SiDiand novell answers "it already began and i bite my fin for it"09:02
thorwilhrmpf :)09:06
thorwilbbl09:10
kwwiiwow, http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/ already has 35 members :)12:56
knomeshould i join? ;)12:57
ruslanrthat's good :)12:57
kwwiieveryone should join and everyone should upload amazing photos :)12:57
knomewell, i'm not that active at flickr12:57
knomethat's why i'm wondering12:57
knomewell, i joined.12:58
kwwii;)12:59
kwwiiI have sucked you into the world of flickr12:59
knomenah12:59
knomemy photos consist 60% of my desktop-shots13:00
knomeIRL-desktop13:00
kwwiihehe13:07
knomei think i have to takeone for this year13:07
knomekwwii, http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/3707110680/13:25
knomei apologize the *BAD* quality13:25
knomeruslanr, please do not *notice* :)13:26
ruslanrok13:26
ruslanrsorry13:26
knomeno problem13:27
knomei nearly missed it ;)13:27
knomeand thanks btw ;)13:28
knomethese are quite nice13:28
kwwiihehe, cool13:32
SiDiknome: your desktop lacks a sidi13:37
SiDito use all this hardware13:37
kwwiibtw, there is an update to the icon theme, gtk theme and metacity theme as well as a the humanity icons in my ppa13:40
knomeSiDi, hah13:41
SiDikwwii: mind giving me the PPA please ?13:43
SiDiand i didnt know about the gtk / metacity :o13:43
SiDido you have screenshots too ? :d13:43
kwwiithey look much the same (the human gtk is the only thing that really looks a bit different13:44
kwwiihttps://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive/ppa13:45
SiDifor me the thing that needs a big refresh is the metacity :/13:49
SiDierr any reason why your PPA isn't available for jaunty kwwii ? :|13:49
kwwiiSiDi: no, that seems really funky to me13:51
michotemacrvr: Hi, the smileys look a bit inconsist in small res http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/Bildschirmfoto-L%C3%A4cheln%21.png shall we fix this for 0.5?13:51
michotemacrvr: I just fixed angry and smirk eye-size, maybe I should increase the eye-lines of tired and angel, too13:52
michotemacrvr: mouth of sad and plain lokk a bit bold to me13:53
michotemacrvr: ^look13:54
macvrmichote: if i had changed the sad mouth to look like the inverted smile , it looked like a moustache14:03
macvrmichote: plain looks looks ok, it only "looks" odd because u have it placed next to tired14:04
kwwiijust updating all of my packages in the ppa for jaunty as well14:05
macvrkwwii: are you updating breathe as well?14:06
macvrin your ppa?14:06
kwwiimacvr: breathe is not in my ppa14:06
macvrah... ok.  juast asked since you said something about it earlier14:07
macvrjust^14:07
michotemacrvr: ;) maybee use brown like crying in sad, I think a 2px-line is too bold in 24x24 (it's the same as 48x48), but just my 2 cents14:08
macvrmichote: i tired that, but it didnt look sad enough ;p14:08
macvrhence i kept it a bit darker14:08
macvrmichote: do one thing , move the sad , plain to top row14:09
kwwiilol http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10282578-16.html14:09
macvrhahahahahah lmao14:10
ruslanr:p14:10
kwwiiSiDi: ok, jaunty packages are now available14:14
michotemacvr: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/Bildschirmfoto-L%C3%A4cheln%21.png , then I'll change tired to a 2px mouth, too. I'll edit it's eyes anyway14:15
macvrmichote: the tired looks fine , dont change14:16
macvrthe mouth14:16
macvrmichote: for sleepy the mouth looks fine in tired14:18
michotemacvr: ok do you think the eyes look better now in the smaller sizes or is it too much? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-tired.png14:18
macvrmichote: try like the face-kiss14:20
macvrmichote: in face-kiss i had done the the eyes as just the gradient of yellow than white14:21
michotemacvr: in 24 and 16 you didn't use gradient anymore in kiss14:28
macvrmichote: it was not need for that smiley ;p you can use it in tired14:29
macvrneeded^14:29
macvrAnyone knows how to fix this > Dust/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:369: Murrine configuration option "style" is not supported and will be ignored.14:39
macvrwhat is the new options now?14:40
michotemacvr: ok I removed it in 16px, shal I send the fixes to cory directly?14:42
macvrwhat fixes?14:42
macvri thought you were doing it for some pidgin thing14:43
michotemacvr: I just saw the inconsistence doing this pidgin-theme, don't you think this should be in Breathe as well?14:49
macvrmichote: you can send it, i wasnt sure of the eyes when you uploaded it , but Cory accepted it... so not sure which he likes... send it anyway14:50
michotemacvr: ok, I only changed eyes in 24 and 16px anyway :P14:52
macvr Anyone knows how to fix this >>> Dust/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:369: Murrine configuration option "style" is not supported and will be ignored. <<< what are the new options now?15:09
macvrdashua_: ^ ?15:10
zniavreengine?15:19
macvrzniavre: it is from the dust/dust sand theme... i'm not sure of the engine15:23
macvrzniavre: clearlooks15:24
kwwiiit means that the style option is being changed or removed15:25
kwwiiis being -> has been15:25
macvrkwwii: yup.. but what is the new option avail15:25
kwwiiit means that the maintainer of Dust should get a bug and then talk to Cimi or someone about it15:25
zniavredo not know clearlooks sorry15:25
kwwiimaybe they changed it to profile15:26
SiDiI just gave a little kitten up :(15:26
kwwiior removed it altogether15:26
macvrzniavre: np15:26
knomekwwii, removed the kitten?15:26
kwwiithe same kind of option in murrine was called profile but it was deprecated about 6 months ago15:26
kwwii:p15:26
macvrkwwii: so changing style > profile should fix this?15:27
macvrah no!15:27
kwwiino15:30
kwwiiremoving it will get rid of the problem but also change the style a bit I guess15:31
kwwiiit depends if it is deprecated or already removed15:31
kwwiifrom the error I imagine you could remove it without any problem15:31
macvrkwwii: found this bug > Bug #34891815:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 348918 in community-themes "Dust theme uses deprecated murrine configuration options (dup-of: 345417)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34891815:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345417 in human-theme ""highlight_ratio" will be deprecated" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34541715:35
macvrbut the style hasnt yet been fixed15:36
macvri'll see if it can be removed15:36
macvrkwwii: this is the only place where murrine engine specifies style> engine "murrine"15:39
macvr{15:39
macvrstyle= NODOKA15:39
macvr}15:39
macvri'm stumped... how do i change it?15:40
kwwiimacvr: well, the murrine engine is different than clearlooks anyway16:00
kwwiimy guess is that they split up the options which made it "gummy" into several other style properties16:03
kwwiiso that one can mix and match between all the style properties instead of just having a few presets16:03
* macvr keeps looking16:08
macvrfixed it...! had to replace style with roundedness/highlight_shade17:04
thorwilhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives now includes a link to Dustink Kirkland's ubuntu museum17:09
zniavrehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives/5.04  my first linux/ubuntu try, never changed to another OS17:46
macvrSiDi: you were asking for a bug more than 32 duplicates... found 1 > Bug #7201819:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 72018 in xulrunner-1.9 "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7201819:16
macvr205 dups!19:17
macvrSiDi: try beating that [205]  ;p19:17
psyke83kwwii: hey man. I just saw your message re: the packages in your PPA. I'm running Karmic, and it seems that human-theme needs a version bump. See:  http://pastebin.com/m6b268d8719:41
SiDimacvr: i just filed bug #66619:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 666 in malone "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66619:46
SiDiMacvr is boring !19:46
SiDi(no offense ;) )19:47
macvrSiDi: ??? what does 666 have to do with me!19:48
dashuamacvr: Try this package.  I updated to 0.4.  Redux will only work with nodoka from git.  It is pissing me off.  May have to backport to murrine =/20:41
dashuahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human-Redux?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=gnome-themes-ubuntu_0.4_all.deb20:41
dashuaClearlooks is gone in Dust20:42
macvrdashua: actually, i realized the prob was with murrine...  "style = NODOKA" , so i replaced it with roundness , now i dont get error20:44
macvrdashua: but using backports for the theme, might not be good , since the users wont be aware of the prob20:45
dashuaI didn't think Dust used the nodoka engine20:45
dashua0.4 is all murrine20:45
macvroh... checking the gtkrc ... :)20:46
SiDibut therehas been a full nodoka version afaik20:46
SiDibut officious20:46
dashuaYeah, I made that one.  Not an official release though.20:47
dashuamacvr: Can you send me the gtkrc or pastebin it?20:48
macvrdashua: of  dust?20:49
dashuaThe one you were having issues with?20:49
macvrok..20:50
macvrdashua: http://filebin.ca/gmybe/gtkrc20:52
dashuamacvr: http://launchpad.net/dusttheme/0.4/0.4.0/+download/Dust-0.4.tar.gz20:57
dashuaI would use this version20:57
macvrah... i had started editing this long time ago... only today i got fed up of the error :)20:58
dashuaThere a few murrine options in the original dust and style was deprecated to use profile20:58
macvrbut thanx for the latest version20:58
dashuaSend me the whole theme if you want it fixed if not just hack on that newer version20:59
dashuaHumanity icon theme is a nice inheritance for Breathe, but not nearly as good.  More complete though.21:00
macvryeah i like the humanity icons21:01
dashuaBetter than Breathe?21:01
dashua=/21:01
macvr;p ... i'm not a fan of orange folders21:02
dashuaOh, both are orange.  One is just darker.21:03
macvryeah...21:04
macvrdashua: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=103651 this was my old version21:04
macvrdashua: http://filebin.ca/tzwqeb/VDustSand.tar.gz21:04
dashuaAh ok21:04
macvr^ my present version , i'm editing21:04
macvrdashua: I'm trying to get the top highlight like the DarkRoom one... But thinner. I'v done a crude hack , using window width... wasnt sure how Darkroom does it :(21:06
dashuaI'll take a look into it.21:09
dashuaAh, Impression buttons.21:09
dashuaThey are nice.21:09
macvr;p21:09
macvrI'v edited the colors21:09
macvrstill redundant buttons are there in the folders,21:10
dashuamacvr: I think I'm going blind temporarily using a blue theme ;p21:10
macvrwhich blue?21:11
dashuaThis blue is actually a nice shade21:11
dashuaVDust21:11
macvrthe select is only blue , rest is grey21:12
dashuaYeah21:13
SiDimacvr: friendship request!21:13
macvrany idea which lines dark room uses for the top highlight? there were too many and i got tired21:13
macvrSiDi: ??? you are totally confusing me today ???21:13
* macvr glad lp is silent today... there were too many new papercuts21:17
* SiDi misses some purrs in the background21:18
dashuamacvr: try round_bevel21:20
macvrfor?21:20
dashuaYou want to get rid the top line?21:21
dashuaThat is where it is in darkroom21:22
macvri want the top line21:22
macvrbut the way i have done it is using the x=witdth -21:22
dashuaoh21:22
dashuaI'll add it for you21:22
macvrwhich messes up for very small windows21:22
macvrthanx21:23
macvrdashua: only for the normal small windows the theme has problems, the maximized window works well21:26
macvralso round_bevel was for progress bars?21:26
dashuaThey are handled by clearlooks21:33
macvryeah , i changed them today to clearlooks21:34
dashuakwwii: Will Human-Clearlooks be deprecated in Karmic or is it staying in the human-theme package?21:35
dashuamacvr: I'll have to work on this.21:35
dashuaWhat did you use as a starting metacity?21:36
macvrdashua: i started with dust sand .21:36
dashuaSand?21:36
dashuaOk21:36
kwwiidashua: well, good question, now that you ask21:38
macvrdashua: i'm in no hurry, you can do it in your leisure21:38
macvrkwwii: pls dont remove clearlooks :(21:39
kwwiiwhy?21:39
kwwiinot that I would remove the engine21:39
kwwiior the other themes21:39
macvri like it ;p21:39
kwwiibut why have the human clearlooks stuff?21:39
macvrit has the blue ;p21:40
kwwiilol, that is not human21:40
kwwiiwe are talking about two different things21:40
macvroh!21:40
kwwiibut anyway....anyone who takes photos who is not on the flickr group and contributing should be21:41
macvri thought he was referring to the clearlooks theme!21:41
kwwiiand with that, I will call it a night21:41
dashuakwwii: Night mate.21:41
kwwiiI toot my horn to everyone and then watch a film21:41
kwwiibe good, have fun ;)21:41
knomesee you kwwii21:41
macvrnite kwwii21:42
SiDikwwii: what about people in the group and not taking photo ? (<-)21:42
kwwiinight all21:42
kwwiiSiDi: good point!21:42
SiDinight kwwii :p21:42
knomeSiDi, i joined, so should you :P21:42
SiDiknome: i did too :D21:42
kwwiiI actually thought about making another flickr group for that21:42
knomeSiDi, you can take a photo of your... belly button21:42
kwwiipeople seem to like flickr21:42
SiDiknome: meh. i'll take a photo of kittens21:42
knome:D21:42
SiDikwwii: i registered to yahoo for this group21:42
knomeSiDi, they're not that cute21:42
kwwiiand non-ubuntu people who have some talent seem to group there21:42
SiDii resisted for ~7 years to yahoo !21:42
* SiDi slaps knome with a angry kitten21:43
knomei think this might motivate me to use flickr more...21:43
kwwiiso maybe it is a way to draw them to light side of the force21:43
SiDihiya ckontros21:43
SiDikwwii: sxc.hu is cool too  but not so communautary21:43
kwwiiok, he is back...I really gotta go21:43
kwwiiSiDi: no doubt21:43
SiDibut you can surely find people who would accept giving you some photos there :)21:43
kwwiihi ckontros21:43
kwwiijust kidding21:43
kwwiibut I was just leaving21:43
* SiDi hides kwwii so that ckontros doesnt notice him21:44
* SiDi brings a kitten launcher and points it towards knome.21:44
knomemeh21:44
* ckontros waves21:44
knomeflickr pro is just too expensive.21:44
knomereally means one should update photos there.21:45
knomewell..21:45
knomelets21:45
knomesee :P21:45
ckontros$20 is expensive? (what I last thought it cost anyway)21:45
kwwiiactually, I have been using flickr pro for several years21:46
kwwiimainly for my parents21:46
kwwiiI had it on my own site and they simply didn't get it21:46
SiDickontros: $20 will be my august flat rent :D21:47
ckontrosWanna trade with me?21:48
ckontrosSiDi ^^^21:50
SiDickontros: a flat for a flickr pro ?21:50
SiDiyou've never seen my flat !21:50
SiDiif you mean flat rents... depends, do we also trade jobs ?21:50
ckontrosSiDi: I'm askin if ya wanna trade our housing payments. ;)21:51
SiDihow much do you pay ?21:51
ckontros$1100 monthly21:51
SiDiahahahaha21:51
SiDii could pay two months per year :D21:51
ckontros;)21:52
SiDiQuestion for the people who write GUIs from times to times !21:52
SiDiI've got an image in a hbox in a menu item21:52
SiDii want to change this image, and i want to _see_ the change21:52
SiDiwhat magic methode shall i call ? :O21:52
SiDimethod*21:52

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