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| soren | o/ | 08:00 |
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| dholbach | bluekuja, cody-somerville: you guys around? | 08:00 |
| bluekuja | yep | 08:00 |
| dholbach | we're missing one MC member right now to have quorum | 08:00 |
| dholbach | I have jpds' mobile number somewhere, let me look for it and text him | 08:01 |
| bluekuja | ok | 08:01 |
| dholbach | ok, let's see if he turns up | 08:03 |
| dholbach | soren and geser are here, nixternal went to sleep, nhandler is still sleeping, so it's either persia or jpds who helps us out now :) | 08:03 |
| dholbach | I have no answer yet - I suggest we wait until 7:30 UTC and if nobody turns up, I can offer to do an impromptu meeting as soon as we have quorum - bluekuja: are you going to be around for a bit on IRC today? | 08:14 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, yes | 08:14 |
| dholbach | I guess cody-somerville is in bed too | 08:14 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, could be^^ | 08:14 |
| dholbach | I'm sorry for this | 08:15 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, np, going to have breakfast | 08:15 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: same here :) | 08:15 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, gonna get back soon | 08:15 |
| bluekuja | brb | 08:15 |
| * geser too | 08:18 | |
| dholbach | :-) | 08:18 |
| * DktrKranz not... hard to find a brioche @work :( | 08:19 | |
| bluekuja | dholbach, any news? | 08:58 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: unfortunately not | 08:59 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, ok, I have to leave for like 2 hours, will it be possible to do this meeting later on? | 09:00 |
| dholbach | sure | 09:00 |
| bluekuja | perfect | 09:00 |
| dholbach | I guess chances are better to have quorum then anyway | 09:00 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot bluekuja | 09:00 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, np :) be back in two hours | 09:00 |
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| dholbach | bluekuja, cody-somerville, soren, geser: still there? seems we have jpds here | 12:19 |
| geser | yes | 12:20 |
| jpds | Afternoon. | 12:20 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, yes | 12:26 |
| dholbach | now we're only lacking soren, persia, nixternal_ or nhandler :) | 12:26 |
| bluekuja | lol | 12:26 |
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| geser | dholbach: do you know why chrisccoulson set himself on the agenda for 23rd July as he seems to be around at the current time? | 12:38 |
| dholbach | geser: I have no idea | 12:38 |
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| geser | what's the probability to get impromptu MC meeting start in the next minutes? As I would otherwise do some errands (but I can postpone them as it's raining now) | 12:42 |
| dholbach | it's raining here too | 12:43 |
| dholbach | I don't know about soren, persia, nixternal_ or nhandler | 12:43 |
| soren | I'm back from lunch, so I'm available-ish. | 12:46 |
| dholbach | bluekuja, geser, jpds: still hanging in there? | 12:48 |
| jpds | Yep. | 12:48 |
| bluekuja | yep | 12:48 |
| geser | yes | 12:48 |
| dholbach | anybody wants to chair? | 12:49 |
| soren | Ah, shite. Something came up. Can you guys give me 10 minutes? | 12:49 |
| bluekuja | yes, I go finish my lunch | 12:49 |
| bluekuja | brb | 12:50 |
| geser | it seems to be a bad day today to hold a MC meeting | 12:50 |
| dholbach | yes and it's not even the 13th | 12:51 |
| dholbach | let's start in 5 and soren can read the backlog :) | 12:52 |
| * dholbach gets some more tea | 12:52 | |
| geser | do we want to process Chris also today or on the next meeting? | 12:54 |
| dholbach | if Chris is around, I'm happy to have him | 12:55 |
| bluekuja | im back | 12:55 |
| geser | will ask in #ubuntu-desktop if he has time | 12:55 |
| bluekuja | lunch finished | 12:55 |
| dholbach | ok, let's kick this off | 12:57 |
| dholbach | #startmeeting | 12:57 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 06:57. The chair is dholbach. | 12:57 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 12:57 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Reapproval of Andrea Veri | 12:57 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Reapproval of Andrea Veri | 12:57 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: how are you doing? | 12:57 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, just finished my high school exams | 12:58 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, on the next semptember I gonna start university | 12:58 |
| dholbach | and sorry Andrea for not getting to start the meeting earlier :-) | 12:58 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: what are you going to study and where? | 12:58 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, and finally I'll have time again to work on Ubuntu/Debian again | 12:58 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, np :) | 12:58 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, law, here in my city (Udine) quite near Venice | 12:59 |
| bluekuja | and maybe the next year I'll move to a city which is like 120 km from here | 12:59 |
| dholbach | nice... I hope you're going to enjoy it :) | 12:59 |
| bluekuja | yeah, unfortunately I'll have a lot to study | 13:00 |
| geser | oh, will you do then debian/copyright reviews on REVU? :) | 13:00 |
| bluekuja | lol | 13:00 |
| bluekuja | yeah, of course | 13:00 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: in terms of Ubuntu and Debian work - what would you like to work on once you're part of the team again? | 13:00 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, I'm getting back all my works and packages, from the MOTU-p2p team to helping someone again gaining some experience in Ubuntu as a mentor | 13:01 |
| dholbach | I see you're part of the doc, fridge, p2p and backporters team, do you expect to have time for all of those? | 13:01 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, I've restarted uploading in Debian today with the new gnome-bt release | 13:01 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: is it in Ubuntu already? :-) | 13:02 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, yes, gnome-btdownload | 13:02 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, it was the old client we had before transmission | 13:02 |
| dholbach | ok | 13:02 |
| dholbach | jpds, geser, soren: any more questions? | 13:03 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, anyway day by day, I'll catch everything up | 13:03 |
| geser | no | 13:03 |
| soren | dholbach: Nope. | 13:03 |
| jpds | None from me. | 13:03 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, and there won't be problems | 13:03 |
| dholbach | [VOTE] Shall Andrea Veri rejoin the MOTU team? | 13:03 |
| MootBot | Please vote on: Shall Andrea Veri rejoin the MOTU team?. | 13:03 |
| MootBot | Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot | 13:03 |
| MootBot | E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting | 13:03 |
| dholbach | +1 | 13:03 |
| MootBot | +1 received from dholbach. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 | 13:03 |
| dholbach | +1 | 13:03 |
| geser | +1 | 13:03 |
| MootBot | +1 received from geser. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 | 13:03 |
| jpds | +1 | 13:03 |
| MootBot | +1 received from jpds. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 | 13:03 |
| soren | +1 | 13:04 |
| MootBot | +1 received from soren. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 | 13:04 |
| dholbach | [endvote] | 13:04 |
| MootBot | Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 | 13:04 |
| dholbach | bluekuja: Welcome back! :) | 13:04 |
| soren | bluekuja: Welcome back! | 13:04 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, geser, soren, jpds : thanks a lot guys | 13:04 |
| bluekuja | I'm happy to be here with you guys again | 13:04 |
| jpds | bluekuja: Welcome back! :) | 13:04 |
| jpds | [ | 13:04 |
| dholbach | :-) | 13:04 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1: available for the meeting? | 13:04 |
| chrisccoulson1 | i am:) | 13:05 |
| dholbach | excellent | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson1 | i found myself a quiet room at work | 13:05 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] MOTU Application of Chris Coulson | 13:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: MOTU Application of Chris Coulson | 13:05 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1: how are you doing? | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson1 | good thanks. and you? | 13:05 |
| dholbach | a bit tired, but doing OK and the rain stopped over here :-) | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson1 | heh - i don't know what the weathers like here - we have no windows;) | 13:06 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1: any reason why you picked the 23 Jul 2009 meeting? | 13:06 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1: no way! they lock you up in a closet? | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson1 | yeah - i couldn't make the 7am meeting this morning, so i picked the 23/7 instead | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson1 | but that is quite far away ;) | 13:06 |
| dholbach | ah ok, I see :) | 13:06 |
| dholbach | good to have you now | 13:07 |
| dholbach | jpds, soren, geser: questions? | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson1 | thanks:) | 13:07 |
| jpds | chrisccoulson1: So you're a linux only company? | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson1 | jpds - unfortunately not. the company i work for is actually an automotive company | 13:07 |
| soren | Yes, I need to know more about this place with no windows. :) | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson1 | ah | 13:07 |
| chrisccoulson1 | yes, of course - i said we had no windows;) | 13:08 |
| geser | chrisccoulson1: do you really see nothing in Ubuntu worth improving? | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson1 | is that in response to me not saying what i dislike? | 13:08 |
| geser | yes, the "What I like least in Ubuntu" item | 13:09 |
| chrisccoulson1 | yeah, i couldn't think of what to put when i did the application. | 13:09 |
| chrisccoulson1 | the only things i really dislike at the moment i suppose, are some technical decisions | 13:09 |
| chrisccoulson1 | eg, pop-under update notifications;) | 13:10 |
| geser | such as? | 13:10 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1: you mentioned the FUSA applet in your application - do you know what's the state of it in karmic? | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson1 | dholbach - i don't actually. and that brings me on to something else that is not so good | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson1 | i know there is work going on for the FUSA in karmic, but it all seems to be behind closed doors at the momen | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson1 | t | 13:11 |
| dholbach | the changes need to be because of some gdm changes? | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson1 | i know tedg is doing some work on the replacement applet though, but that's all i know;) | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson1 | yeah, the old applet doesn't work with the new gdm | 13:12 |
| dholbach | I see | 13:12 |
| chrisccoulson1 | the old codebase got merged in to the new GDM codebase, but it has none of the ubuntu changes anymore | 13:12 |
| dholbach | right | 13:12 |
| dholbach | I don't have any more questions | 13:12 |
| dholbach | jpds, geser, soren? | 13:12 |
| geser | neither | 13:13 |
| jpds | chrisccoulson1: Do you plan to attend/have attended an local Ubuntu events? :) | 13:13 |
| jpds | We need more rockstars. | 13:13 |
| chrisccoulson1 | jpds - i would like too. i havent attended anything yet. james_w mentioned a few days ago about some UK members to meetup at some point | 13:14 |
| chrisccoulson1 | face-to-face community involvement is an area i should become more involved with i think | 13:14 |
| jpds | Awesome. | 13:15 |
| jpds | No more questions from me. | 13:15 |
| dholbach | soren? | 13:15 |
| geser | chrisccoulson1: do you plan to keep focus on ubuntu-desktop or also do some work outside ubuntu-desktop as a MOTU? | 13:15 |
| chrisccoulson1 | geser - the plan is to do some work outside of ubuntu-desktop as MOTU, but in addition to the work i do in ubuntu-desktop too | 13:16 |
| geser | great | 13:16 |
| soren | Sorry, catching up... | 13:16 |
| soren | No more questions from me either. | 13:17 |
| dholbach | [VOTE] Shall Chris Coulson join the MOTU team? | 13:17 |
| MootBot | Please vote on: Shall Chris Coulson join the MOTU team?. | 13:17 |
| MootBot | Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot | 13:17 |
| MootBot | E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting | 13:17 |
| jpds | +1 | 13:17 |
| dholbach | +1 | 13:17 |
| MootBot | +1 received from jpds. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 | 13:17 |
| MootBot | +1 received from dholbach. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 | 13:17 |
| geser | +1 | 13:17 |
| MootBot | +1 received from geser. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 | 13:17 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson1, congrat ;-) | 13:17 |
| * jpds watches soren catch up again. | 13:18 | |
| soren | +1 | 13:18 |
| MootBot | +1 received from soren. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 | 13:18 |
| dholbach | [endvote] | 13:18 |
| MootBot | Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 | 13:18 |
| jpds | chrisccoulson1: Congrats! | 13:18 |
| soren | jpds: Well spotted. :) | 13:18 |
| james_w | \o/ congratulations chrisccoulson1 | 13:18 |
| dholbach | congratulations chrisccoulson1! | 13:18 |
| dholbach | :-) | 13:18 |
| chrisccoulson1 | thanks everyone:) | 13:18 |
| dholbach | cody-somerville: around? | 13:18 |
| dholbach | might be a bit too early for Cody | 13:19 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Any other business? | 13:19 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other business? | 13:19 |
| dholbach | Who wants to do the honours? | 13:19 |
| jpds | I will. | 13:19 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot jpds! | 13:20 |
| dholbach | #endmeeting | 13:20 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 07:20. | 13:20 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot everybody | 13:20 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson1, bluekuja: keep up the good work! | 13:20 |
| chrisccoulson1 | thanks:) | 13:20 |
| bluekuja | dholbach, thanks! :) | 13:20 |
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| jpds | All should be done now. | 14:01 |
| cody-somerville | moo | 14:06 |
| highvoltage | and moo to you too | 14:06 |
| pitti | hello | 15:55 |
| slangasek | morning | 15:55 |
| ScottK | Starting early? | 15:55 |
| slangasek | starting the greetings early :) | 15:55 |
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| * fader_ waves. | 15:56 | |
| * lool waves too | 15:57 | |
| heno | hey | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | hiya | 15:59 |
| sbeattie | hey all | 15:59 |
| robbiew | yo! | 15:59 |
| dendrobates | boo | 16:00 |
| slangasek | mdz, pgraner, davidm, Riddell, Hobbsee: ping | 16:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell is still at GCDS, so I'm not sure how online he'll be. | 16:01 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:01 |
| slangasek | rickspencer is off today, presumably recuperating from GCDS :) | 16:02 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is slangasek. | 16:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:02 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2009-07-10 | 16:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2009-07-10 | 16:02 |
| davidm | slangasek, hi | 16:02 |
| mdz | slangasek: I'm here, but probably need to dial into another call. do you need anything specific from me? | 16:03 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Actions from previous meeting | 16:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Actions from previous meeting | 16:03 |
| slangasek | mdz: not that I know of | 16:03 |
| slangasek | * slangasek to get kubuntu-netbook added to the ISO tracker | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * rgreening to document kubuntu-netbook install process for ISO tracker test cases | 16:04 |
| * pgraner waves | 16:04 | |
| slangasek | * cjwatson to update installer for gdm autologin changes | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * pitti to check with Riddell whether any Kubuntu ISO size events are in the offing | 16:04 |
| slangasek | * cjwatson to investigate DVD size explosion | 16:04 |
| slangasek | I'll have a poke at the ISO tracker today or Monday | 16:04 |
| pitti | slangasek: nothing major planned right now | 16:04 |
| slangasek | pitti: ok, thanks | 16:04 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: any status to report on your action items? | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | installer's updated for gdm autologin changes | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | I haven't done anything on the DVD size stuff yet | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | (which isn't urgent, but does need to get looked into at some point) | 16:05 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:05 | |
| slangasek | rgreening: any news regarding kubuntu-netbook test cases? | 16:06 |
| ScottK | slangasek: He's started work, but not done | 16:06 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:06 |
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| ScottK | It's not urgent until IS starts building images anyway ..... | 16:06 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:06 | |
| ScottK | (which it'd be nice to get started more than a day or two before the next Alpha) | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | oh, speaking of which, I think that ticket got resolved | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | let me check | 16:07 |
| slangasek | the RT ticket mentioned last week appears to be closed out; is there still an IS action needed there, or is it the cdimage team's now? | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | if it's closed, it's ours, and I'll give it another try right now | 16:07 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:07 |
| ScottK | Kewl. | 16:07 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] QA Team | 16:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: QA Team | 16:08 |
| slangasek | heno: how's the apport coverage effort going? | 16:08 |
| heno | hi | 16:08 |
| heno | slangasek: the LP team got some test failures from the code changes | 16:09 |
| heno | I was told it might land today, but it seems not | 16:09 |
| heno | Bjorn says it's high priority work for them though | 16:09 |
| shankhs | hi | 16:10 |
| heno | slangasek: that was actually apport adoption :) | 16:10 |
| slangasek | oh, that one's the one on the LP side, so not linked to the archive for A3 | 16:10 |
| slangasek | right :) | 16:10 |
| heno | coverage is also moving along, though we would like more hook contributions ;) | 16:10 |
| slangasek | fader_: hardware testing? coming along for 8.04.3? | 16:11 |
| heno | we'll encourage community contributions still and then sit down at the sprint to shore it up | 16:11 |
| slangasek | heno: great :) | 16:12 |
| fader_ | Testing of the 8.04.3 images is looking good: | 16:12 |
| fader_ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fader/sru-testing/8.04.3.html | 16:12 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fader/sru-testing/8.04.3.html | 16:12 |
| fader_ | Even more results than are listed there have come back as some 20090709.1 images were tested late yesterday but I haven't yet gotten them on this page. | 16:12 |
| fader_ | No failures :) | 16:12 |
| fader_ | We had found a bug that was preventing testing of hardy: Bug 396611 for hardy was fixed by cjwatson | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396611 in debian-installer "Partitioning fails in 8.04.3" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396611 | 16:12 |
| fader_ | Testing of karmic is going well too: | 16:13 |
| fader_ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html | 16:13 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html | 16:13 |
| slangasek | fader_: 20090709.1 alternate? (the page title says server?) | 16:13 |
| fader_ | We found one bug there as well that has also been fixed: Bug 394783 for karmic was fixed by apw and cjwatson | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 394783 in initramfs-tools "Broadcom BCM5708 "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394783 | 16:13 |
| fader_ | slangasek: I believe it's alternate, let me look | 16:13 |
| fader_ | slangasek: We have both -server and -alternate tested but only the server results are on the webpage I just linked | 16:14 |
| fader_ | The -alternate results started coming in late yesterday and I have not put them in the report yet | 16:14 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:14 |
| fader_ | (It's a manual report at the moment so it's a bit time consuming. Hoping to have an automated report for it soon.) | 16:14 |
| slangasek | does testing -alternate in addition to -server actually provide any more information regarding hw compat? | 16:15 |
| fader_ | slangasek: They use different kernels, I believe | 16:15 |
| slangasek | fair enough | 16:15 |
| slangasek | any hardware issues or anything that would conceivably prevent getting the testing done in time? | 16:16 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Not at all... I haven't seen any failures on the hardy testing | 16:16 |
| fader_ | It's in pretty good shape. | 16:16 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:17 | |
| slangasek | ISO testing for .3 is still in progress; no failures yet with the current batch of images | 16:18 |
| slangasek | [LINK] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all | 16:18 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all | 16:18 |
| slangasek | we're still mopping up the last of the SRU verifications for .3; there are some hw-specific ones still listed on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html that could use a poke, would be helpful if people could have a look whether they have any of the hardware in question | 16:19 |
| slangasek | intel macbooks are one of the affected bits of hardware | 16:20 |
| slangasek | heno, fader_, sbeattie: anything else? | 16:20 |
| heno | no | 16:20 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Nothing else from me | 16:20 |
| heno | I believe I covered the karmic-qa-increase-apport-adoption (out of turn) above | 16:20 |
| shankhs | \quit | 16:20 |
| slangasek | ok, thanks | 16:21 |
| slangasek | heno: in turn, regardless of my confusion ;) | 16:21 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Desktop team | 16:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Desktop team | 16:21 |
| slangasek | pitti: hello | 16:21 |
| pitti | as usual, bug status and "intrusive changes" are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:21 |
| pitti | this week half of the desktop team was on the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, so | 16:21 |
| pitti | devlopment was slow | 16:21 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:21 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:21 |
| pitti | the main action this week was shaking out the biggest regressions from the new | 16:21 |
| pitti | gdm and preparing firefox 3.0.5 for landing in karmic | 16:21 |
| pitti | next week we'll resume working on the empathy integration and getting U1 | 16:21 |
| pitti | packages into main | 16:21 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:22 | |
| pitti | two RC bugs fixed, the others keep being dragged, since focus is still on getting in new crack | 16:22 |
| pitti | none of them are alpha-3 blockers, though | 16:22 |
| pitti | except for ubufox for 3.5, but that can be uploaded in conjunction with flipping the default ffox to 3.5, if that still makes alpha-3 | 16:23 |
| slangasek | glad to read that 339313 should have made some progress | 16:23 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:23 | |
| pitti | right, but Riddell said to keep it open still | 16:23 |
| pitti | fortunately the recent gdm breakage bugs didn't even make it to the list :) | 16:24 |
| pitti | bug 395324 is still a wart, I'm trying to get that nailed for alpha-3 | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395324 in gdm "'These windows do not support "save current setup"....' metacity warning when logging in with gdm 2.26" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395324 | 16:24 |
| slangasek | apparently because no one has been tagging those bugs where I can see them... :) | 16:24 |
| pitti | slangasek: no, because they got fixed this week already :) | 16:24 |
| slangasek | ah :) | 16:24 |
| pitti | any questions from other teams? | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Plasma-widget-network-manager is currently not working for WEP or WPA in Karmic, but upstream is aware and writing a lot of code. | 16:25 |
| pitti | uh, Jonathan told me it got much better now? | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | any progress in getting gnome dependencies removed/changed? | 16:26 |
| ScottK | (related to 339313) | 16:26 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu now installs gnome and xfce desktop, and karmic is defaulting to gnome | 16:26 |
| pitti | charlie-tca: we dropped several libglade* dependencies last week | 16:26 |
| slangasek | pitti: for DX integration, you have written "all specs not drafted yet" - is there an ETA for those? | 16:26 |
| slangasek | (hard to extrapolate how intrusive they'll be in practice, without more info...) | 16:26 |
| ScottK | pitti: It did and then Network Manager got updated and so it got worse. | 16:27 |
| pitti | slangasek: oh, that's sort of stale; I'll check with david, but so far I'm aware of the gdm theming only | 16:27 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:27 |
| pitti | sorry, will update next time | 16:27 |
| slangasek | davidbarth: ^^ anything to add there regarding pending DX specs for karmic? | 16:27 |
| pitti | (still not drafted) | 16:28 |
| slangasek | pitti: why does http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt want to drop fusa to universe now? | 16:29 |
| slangasek | is that related to gdm? | 16:29 |
| pitti | slangasek: the current fusa package isn't compatible with the new gdm | 16:29 |
| davidbarth | slangasek: fusa should be on the list | 16:29 |
| pitti | so we are again installing the one from upstream gdm | 16:29 |
| lool | IIUC, the new fusa is *in* new-gdm? | 16:29 |
| pitti | I was told that ted is planning to port it to new gdm | 16:29 |
| pitti | lool: yes, so was the old one, but we heavily fork it | 16:29 |
| slangasek | porting in the karmic timeframe? | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | the config file shipped in xubuntu-default-settings sets xfce.desktop as the default session, but gnome desktop is what comes up. | 16:30 |
| pitti | slangasek: the two aren't co-installable | 16:30 |
| davidbarth | ie, ted is trying to upload a new version asap (being on the critical path) to test the new infrastructure | 16:30 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:30 |
| pitti | charlie-tca: that's in the works AFAIK; gnome-session gets a -bin split out with just the bits that gdm needs | 16:30 |
| pitti | then xfce can just pull in that one | 16:30 |
| slangasek | davidbarth: reusing the current package name, surely? (so no sense in us archive folks moving it to universe, if it's going to come back shortly) | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 16:30 |
| pitti | (done in Debian, we just need to merge) | 16:30 |
| slangasek | no more questions from me; anyone else? | 16:31 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Mobile Team | 16:32 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Mobile Team | 16:32 |
| lool | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:32 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:32 |
| lool | Hotest topics are: | 16:32 |
| lool | * qemu buildds: IS is seeing crashes/hangs; I'll try to reproduce; we're very much hoping for hardware | 16:32 |
| davidbarth | slangasek: doing what you folks tell us to do ;) but yes, reusing the pkg name | 16:32 |
| lool | * cd images: mx51 and marvell need kernel and bootloader; we're working on the bootloaders | 16:32 |
| lool | * mx51 kernel is worrying: see details on the wiki page and kernel team will probably expand, but I'd like to discuss consequences of using 2.6.28 which is the proposed plan for the short term | 16:32 |
| lool | cjwatson, slangasek: I'd love to hear your thoughts on the consequences of using 2.6.28 in karmic | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | mx51> I thought that was already discussed briefly, and davidm came back and said you weren't doing it | 16:33 |
| slangasek | lool: davidm told me that the 2.6.28 idea was scrapped already | 16:33 |
| lool | We weren't doign what? 2.6.28? | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | my thoughts are pretty similar to slangasek's expressed earlier, viz.: pretty painful in the metapackages, would greatly prefer not to even short-term if possible, but if we do it then it can't release that way | 16:33 |
| lool | Hmm we chatted about this over the mobile phone meeting in my morning some hours ago | 16:34 |
| pgraner | lool: I got word last night that .28 was out | 16:34 |
| davidm | lool, per our conversation of last night we killed 2.6.28 | 16:34 |
| lool | davidm: around? | 16:34 |
| lool | Ok | 16:34 |
| davidm | It was way to painful | 16:34 |
| lool | Right | 16:34 |
| lool | That was my impression too | 16:34 |
| lool | So probably no image for a3, unless the kernel makes progress | 16:34 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:34 | |
| lool | pgraner: I guess you'll cover the mx51 situation in details, or should we do that now? | 16:35 |
| pgraner | lool: not likely unless we get some serious help from freescale | 16:35 |
| lool | I've included the status/proposals to make progress on the wiki page | 16:35 |
| pgraner | lool: what wiki? | 16:35 |
| lool | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:35 |
| pgraner | lool: we track the status on our page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:35 |
| lool | Ok; i added some details on hardware debuggers, request for help to FSL etc. | 16:36 |
| lool | Are there any questions on mobile status? | 16:36 |
| pitti | lool: some stuff, like dk-disks or KMS doesn't work with 2.6.28 | 16:36 |
| pgraner | lool: I don't see any proposals other than .28 which davidm suggested btw not the kernel team | 16:36 |
| slangasek | lool: bug #396453 isn't on your wiki page | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396453 in webfav "webfav must support ffox 3.5 in karmic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396453 | 16:37 |
| lool | I thought it was a proposal by amitk; I'll remove that part | 16:37 |
| slangasek | lool: that's your department, isn't it? :) | 16:37 |
| lool | amitk is kernel team ATM but working for mobile | 16:37 |
| pitti | lool: libgudev relies on some new netlink features that are only in .30 (non-root users being able to talk through netlink to udev) | 16:37 |
| lool | slangasek: That's not targetted at A3 though; I didn't include updates on all release targetted bugs | 16:38 |
| lool | slangasek: I could do that if you think that's useful | 16:38 |
| lool | pitti: Thanks; I think everyboyd agrees to not follow on the 2.6.28 idea anyway | 16:38 |
| pitti | lool: ok, just adding a "will break" reason then :) | 16:38 |
| lool | Thanks :) | 16:39 |
| slangasek | lool: I'd like to know where we are with high-priority release-targeted bugs, generally, even if not milestoned for the current alpha | 16:39 |
| lool | slangasek: Ok; I'll prepare that for next meeting, thanks for the suggestion | 16:39 |
| slangasek | lool: ok, thanks | 16:39 |
| lool | slangasek: I know nothing about that webfav task; I'll poke StevenK about it | 16:39 |
| * slangasek nods | 16:39 | |
| slangasek | any more questions from anyone else? | 16:41 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Kernel Team | 16:41 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Kernel Team | 16:41 |
| slangasek | lool, davidm: thanks | 16:41 |
| pgraner | Yo... | 16:41 |
| slangasek | hi | 16:42 |
| pgraner | We updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic#Release%20Meeting%20Bugs for the bugs in the agenda | 16:42 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:42 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:42 |
| pgraner | Also the remainder of that page is updated for all of our status. A few points to call out: | 16:42 |
| pgraner | ARM imx51 as discussed in the mobile section. Most likely won't be in A3 | 16:43 |
| pgraner | We have contacted FCL asking for additional help. No response as of yet | 16:43 |
| pgraner | AppArmor will get fixed by the upload that apw will do today. | 16:43 |
| slangasek | yay! | 16:44 |
| pgraner | We need to have security test to make sure it looks good | 16:44 |
| apw | apparmor will be integrated but disabled by default during testing | 16:44 |
| apw | there are a couple of known issues with it which are being worked but in less critical support | 16:44 |
| lool | pgraner: Concerning mx51, if the two kernel engineers working on it without hardware still lack some next week, we could discuss which hardware we could send them: I can think of either some B1 boards or the other non-b2 TO2 boards we have around | 16:45 |
| pgraner | lool: I had talked to davidm about that he was to get with you guys and send a b2 to amit | 16:46 |
| pgraner | lool: that was late last week | 16:46 |
| bjf_afk | pgraner, amit has a b2 now | 16:46 |
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| pgraner | bjf: where did that one come from? | 16:47 |
| slangasek | the status of the kernel-karmic-wifi spec mentions 'rfkill changes have come through in 2.6.31-rc1' - that seems to have resulted in bug #397698 | 16:47 |
| lool | pgraner: Amit has a b2 but I understand Bryan and Martyn don't | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397698 in acpi-support "isAnyWirelessPoweredOn in state-funcs always returns 1 in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397698 | 16:47 |
| bjf | pgraner, was ogra's i believe | 16:47 |
| slangasek | is the lack of link in /sys from the network device to the rfkill device deliberate? | 16:47 |
| pgraner | lool: then we need to get them some, what can you guys spare? | 16:47 |
| * ogra looks up | 16:47 | |
| ogra | pgraner, we dont have anything left i think | 16:48 |
| lool | pgraner: I think bjf and amitk have B2 and another to2 board each, these are probably very close to b2, otherwise b1 | 16:48 |
| lool | Either from my team or from ARM | 16:48 |
| pgraner | lool: lets take this offline, to save everyone the pain... | 16:48 |
| lool | Sure | 16:48 |
| pgraner | apw: what do you know about the rfkill above? | 16:49 |
| apw | slangasek, unsure ... is there a bug i can look at? | 16:49 |
| slangasek | apw: bug #397698 is the one I have | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397698 in acpi-support "isAnyWirelessPoweredOn in state-funcs always returns 1 in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397698 | 16:49 |
| pgraner | LP 397698 | 16:49 |
| apw | they have been fiddling heavily in there this merge | 16:49 |
| slangasek | we can take that off-line, though | 16:49 |
| pgraner | slangasek: we will get back to you on that one | 16:49 |
| slangasek | sounds good | 16:49 |
| pgraner | Thats it for us pending questions | 16:49 |
| slangasek | thanks, guys | 16:50 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Foundations Team | 16:50 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Foundations Team | 16:50 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: hi | 16:51 |
| davidm | pgraner, I pulled ogra's board for amit | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | ok, so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic is up-to-date I think | 16:52 |
| * heno is afk | 16:52 | |
| cjwatson | the main non-mentioned intrusive thing happening is upstart 0.6.0, which anyone who's upgraded this morning will probably have noticed :) | 16:52 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:52 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:52 |
| pgraner | davidm: ack | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | I believe it's sort of on a "well, Keybuk's system still boots" kind of basis right now, so do let him know if you run into trouble with it | 16:53 |
| pitti | hm, "just works" here, too | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | all our alpha-3 features are believed to be on track, with the possible exception of the python packaging work which is still a bit definition-light | 16:54 |
| slangasek | unblocks the effort to get upstart integration into Debian, so I'm willing to put up with my system not booting for that ;) | 16:54 |
| robbiew | +1 ;) | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | the i586 work has reached the point of having test CDs, which Keybuk is currently testing | 16:54 |
| ScottK | slangasek: I'm also willing to put up with your system not booting for that. | 16:54 |
| slangasek | hah | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | that's about all I have; anything from Robbie? | 16:56 |
| robbiew | nope | 16:56 |
| slangasek | I see 'eglibc adoption' is added as an essential spec - is that decided and just needs doing? | 16:57 |
| cjwatson | I think I mentioned that at last week's meeting | 16:57 |
| dendrobates | * UbuntuSpec:server-karmic-pristine-daily-virt-builds | 16:57 |
| dendrobates | Done. | 16:57 |
| robbiew | ah...indeed | 16:57 |
| dendrobates | sorry, premature cut and paste :) | 16:58 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:58 |
| cjwatson | but short answer, yes | 16:58 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: oops; haven't made it all the way through that log yet, can you recap briefly? | 16:58 |
| slangasek | ok | 16:58 |
| robbiew | with 10.04 being the LTS...eglibc needs to be in 9.10 | 16:58 |
| ScottK | Excellent summary | 16:58 |
| slangasek | any questions for Foundations? | 16:59 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Server Team | 17:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Server Team | 17:00 |
| slangasek | cjwatson, robbiew: thanks | 17:00 |
| dendrobates | * UbuntuSpec:server-karmic-pristine-daily-virt-builds | 17:00 |
| dendrobates | completed | 17:00 |
| dendrobates | are there any questions about this? | 17:00 |
| dendrobates | UbuntuSpec:server-karmic-update-motd-inotify | 17:01 |
| dendrobates | Not done. non-blocker, targeted at Alpha4 | 17:01 |
| dendrobates | UbuntuSpec:server-karmic-kvm-qemu-packaging | 17:01 |
| dendrobates | Working prototype done. Waiting on qemu-kvm_0.11 release | 17:02 |
| slangasek | server-karmic-update-motd-inotify was blocked on upstart before, right? so is unblocked now? | 17:02 |
| dendrobates | Bug 326768 | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326768 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysqld_safe thinks mysqld has crashed when it hasn't" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326768 | 17:02 |
| kirkland | slangasek: we're not gating on that | 17:02 |
| dendrobates | kirkland: is it unblocked? | 17:02 |
| slangasek | kirkland: does upstart 0.6 give you what you need anyway? | 17:02 |
| kirkland | slangasek: when upstart supports inotify, we'll use it | 17:02 |
| slangasek | ok | 17:03 |
| slangasek | (oh, right, that was going to be in 0.10) | 17:03 |
| kirkland | slangasek: don't know, haven't seen an update from Keybuk on my wishlist bug for inotify support | 17:03 |
| cjwatson | upstart 0.6 appears to have at least some inotify support | 17:03 |
| kirkland | slangasek: basically, update-motd will merely suggest iwatch, and use it if on the system | 17:03 |
| * slangasek nods | 17:03 | |
| dendrobates | Bug:326768 Mathiaz had been waiting for debian to move 5.1 to unstable, so he could just merge that, but he will be uploading a fix shortly, since that is the quickest way to get rid of this bug | 17:04 |
| kirkland | slangasek: rather than depending on iwatch, which would necessitate an MIR that pitti groaned about | 17:04 |
| slangasek | dendrobates: ah, so I'm not the only one tired of seeing that bug on the list ;) | 17:04 |
| slangasek | kirkland: right | 17:04 |
| dendrobates | Bug 385475 We are aware of the problem and discussed it at UDS. We are currently waiting for an upstream code drop | 17:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385475 in likewise-open5 "[Karmic] Likewise-Open 5 fails to authenticate users" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385475 | 17:04 |
| dendrobates | If the code drop does not come in time, we might have to drop the 5.x version. | 17:05 |
| cjwatson | hmm, possibly only as much as in upstart 0.3 | 17:05 |
| ScottK | I'd like to ask the release team to please sprinkle their holy water on the clamav update plan and give it blessing to proceed. | 17:06 |
| slangasek | pitti: I noticed that you aren't subscribed to ubuntu-release; could you take a peek at the archive and give your opinion on the clamav update plan? | 17:06 |
| slangasek | touching on SRUs as this does, I'd like your ack before telling the TB to go for it | 17:07 |
| pitti | oh, sure | 17:07 |
| slangasek | also, please subscribe to ubuntu-release :-) | 17:07 |
| pitti | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2009-July/000005.html | 17:07 |
| pitti | slangasek: subscribe> done | 17:08 |
| slangasek | anything else for server? | 17:08 |
| dendrobates | nope | 17:09 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] pitti to ack/nack clamav update plan on ubuntu-release | 17:09 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pitti to ack/nack clamav update plan on ubuntu-release | 17:09 |
| pitti | I saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavUpdates before, and it looks alright to me | 17:09 |
| pitti | Scott and I talked about it before | 17:09 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Can I call that approved then? | 17:09 |
| slangasek | ScottK: yes | 17:09 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 17:09 |
| * ScottK updates the wiki ... | 17:09 | |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] MOTU | 17:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: MOTU | 17:10 |
| ScottK | Things are generally quiet in Universe. | 17:10 |
| ScottK | There is some discussion of another ghc6 transition | 17:11 |
| * slangasek nods | 17:11 | |
| ScottK | The planning seems sane, so if they go ahead, I'm not worried about it. | 17:11 |
| ScottK | We had one motu-release member resign this week. We'll get a replacement, but haven't done it yet. | 17:11 |
| ScottK | That's it for Universe. | 17:11 |
| slangasek | we still need to kick python2.5 out of python-all-dev; ought to get that done soon so we've got plenty of lead time for rebuilds | 17:12 |
| ScottK | In Kubuntu we are packaging KDE 4.3 RC2 right now. I expect that'll be out version for Alpha 3. | 17:12 |
| slangasek | who resigned? | 17:12 |
| ScottK | dktrkranz | 17:12 |
| slangasek | ok | 17:12 |
| ScottK | Too busy with work. | 17:12 |
| * slangasek nods | 17:12 | |
| ScottK | It looks reasonably good for having Kubuntu Netbook images for Alpha 3. | 17:13 |
| ScottK | We've also engaged with the plasma-netbook shell upstream and have a good idea of the plan to get that into Karmic. | 17:13 |
| ScottK | I think that's it. | 17:14 |
| slangasek | what's plasma-netbook shell? | 17:14 |
| ScottK | It's a lighter weight version of plasma optimized for netbook use. It also has some additional functionality related to working better on the smaller screens. | 17:14 |
| ScottK | Our minimal objective for Kubuntu Netbook is to present a traditional Kubuntu scaled down for netbook. That's almost done. | 17:15 |
| slangasek | ok, cool | 17:15 |
| ScottK | What we really want to do is something radically cool that no one else has and that's the key piece for it. | 17:15 |
| ScottK | Upstream it'll be in KDE 4.4 (Karmic +1), but we should have it first. | 17:16 |
| slangasek | nice :) | 17:16 |
| ScottK | Having sebas at UDS was a great help for establishing those connections. | 17:16 |
| slangasek | any questions from folks regarding universe? | 17:17 |
| slangasek | ScottK: thanks | 17:18 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Known regressions | 17:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Known regressions | 17:18 |
| slangasek | any regressions people want to discuss that aren't already on the list? | 17:18 |
| ScottK | I did have one other point on Python stuff. | 17:18 |
| slangasek | ScottK: oh, go aheda | 17:18 |
| slangasek | ahead | 17:18 |
| ScottK | Our cdbs has a change to automagically add install-layout=deb that Debian's doesn't have. It makes it tough to make a package that works with Python 2.6 in both Debian and Ubuntu | 17:18 |
| ScottK | I think we should be consistent and either get that in Debian or drop ours. | 17:19 |
| pitti | --install-layout should work in Debian as well | 17:19 |
| slangasek | has the change been submitted to Debian? | 17:19 |
| slangasek | pitti: the issue isn't whether it works, but whether it's being done by default and the interaction with the install files, I suspect | 17:20 |
| ScottK | slangasek: I don't know. I'm pretty much just a user of CDBS. | 17:20 |
| pitti | I don't see it on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=cdbs | 17:20 |
| slangasek | can someone take responsibility for forwarding that? | 17:21 |
| ScottK | I think it would come better from someone with some established relationship with the Debian CDBS people .... | 17:21 |
| slangasek | (doko made the change, but his Foundations time is limited this cycle) | 17:21 |
| slangasek | pitti: is that you? :) | 17:21 |
| pitti | o/ | 17:21 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 17:21 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] pitti to forward --install-layout=deb change to Debian cdbs maintainers | 17:21 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: pitti to forward --install-layout=deb change to Debian cdbs maintainers | 17:21 |
| doko | ScottK: on my list. but this change should go to Debian as well | 17:22 |
| slangasek | anyway, regressions | 17:23 |
| slangasek | anything we need to discuss there? | 17:23 |
| slangasek | (I have a few bugs to file regarding kms and external VGA, but don't need to discuss those here) | 17:23 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] ISO size | 17:24 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ISO size | 17:24 |
| slangasek | the DVD sizes were mentioned earlier, no need to dwell on that | 17:24 |
| slangasek | I understand we'll save a bit of space on CDs soon due to mono changes again | 17:25 |
| slangasek | but we could still use some more space wherever people can find it, to accomodate more langpacks when the time comes | 17:25 |
| ScottK | There was an outstanding action to check for known CD size events for Kubuntu. I'm pretty sure there aren't any. | 17:25 |
| slangasek | yes, I think that was mentioned at the beginning of the meeting | 17:26 |
| ScottK | We have a coupld of MIR oustanding, but not for large packages. | 17:26 |
| slangasek | ok | 17:26 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 17:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 17:27 |
| lool | slangasek: Just a note that I was wrong when I claimed I only looked at karmic bugs targetted at Alpha 3; I actually looked at all karmic ones which ~ubuntu-armel, ~ubuntu-unr or ~canonical-mobile were subscribed to and hence missed the webfav one. It will appear on my list now since I sub-ed canonical-mobile to it. | 17:27 |
| lool | slangasek: Concerning the webfav bug, 396453, bfiller confirmed he's working on it and said it's not hard and he should have a tarball next week (I've updated the MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus page) | 17:27 |
| lool | (Either davidm or me should run pm-dashboard / bug-zapper regularly to check whether new karmic bugs were assigned to someone in the mobile team) | 17:27 |
| ogra | lool, everyone in the team should actually :) | 17:27 |
| slangasek | lool: ok, thanks | 17:28 |
| ogra | in all teams ... makes it so easy to keep an overview | 17:28 |
| ScottK | Just realized I forgot to toss in my link: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic | 17:28 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic | 17:28 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic | 17:28 |
| slangasek | anything else to discuss here? dazzling behind-the-scenes changes in karmic? :) | 17:29 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 17:29 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:29. | 17:29 |
| slangasek | thanks, folks | 17:29 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 17:30 |
| robbiew | thanks steve | 17:30 |
| lool | Thanks! | 17:31 |
| charlie-tca | thank you | 17:32 |
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