| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | good | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | fta: and it even opens pages :) | 00:05 |
| fta | BUGabundo, for me, it's really looking good, gtk theme, flash plugin, video, etc.. | 00:06 |
| fta | just need an adblock and it's usable enough for me | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | flash? | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | I read about it yesterday | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | fta: you using addons? | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | I though you were the guy who didn't use any | 00:08 |
| fta | BUGabundo, no, not me. I have 28 addons installed, 11 active | 00:09 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 00:09 |
| fta | yes, why? | 00:10 |
| fta | abp, chrome list (useless), dom inspector (useless), download statusbar, firebug, rikaichan + 2 dicts, jsview, nightly tester, tab counter and web developer | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/214000/ | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | and that's because asac FORCED me to drop soooo many | 00:14 |
| asac__ | micahg: i used the contact form on calendar.live.com and complained | 00:17 |
| asac__ | more we cant do imo | 00:17 |
| micahg | asac__ I agree, what to do with the bug? | 00:18 |
| asac__ | also sent to bing | 00:19 |
| asac__ | leave it alone ;) | 00:19 |
| micahg | ok | 00:20 |
| * micahg has been trying to stay on top of the ff3.5 bugs so it doesn't become like ff3.0 | 00:20 | |
| asac__ | heh | 00:20 |
| asac__ | honours goal. really | 00:20 |
| asac__ | honorous | 00:21 |
| asac__ | it will be fun when we make it default ;) | 00:21 |
| micahg | indeed | 00:21 |
| asac__ | micahg: what bug id was it? | 00:22 |
| micahg | bug 397211 | 00:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397211 in firefox-3.5 "Shiretoko user agent string breaks compatibilty with major websites" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397211 | 00:22 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| micahg | asac: did you see gnomefreak | 00:41 |
| micahg | 's suggestion about ubufox for kde | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | Mark has twitter ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397297 | 00:41 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 397297 in gwibber "Gwibber won't take a long password" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 00:41 |
| asac | micahg: well. kubufox might make sense at some point - though currently ubufox itself is desktop agnostic, but to fix the problem of all the depends getting pulled in, its bug 293533 | 00:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 293533 in apturl "Better KDE (non-gnome) support for apturl (Was: shouldnt hard depend on synaptic (KDE))" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293533 | 00:44 |
| asac | ubufox needs apturl, that one pulls in all gnome stuff | 00:44 |
| fta | BUGabundo, good, maybe he'll assign someone to look for all the bugs ;) | 00:44 |
| micahg | ah, so if apturl is agnostic, then ubufox would be as well | 00:45 |
| BUGabundo | fta: ehe he has a >49 char pass LOLOL | 00:46 |
| BUGabundo | I think he was trying to make a dent/twit in the wrong box | 00:46 |
| fta | iirc, you can't even use ! in passwords | 00:51 |
| fta | you can't even sent \o/ in a dent | 00:51 |
| fta | sned | 00:51 |
| fta | grr | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | sure you can | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | (12:52:56 AM) IM: see " @fta: you can't even sent \o/ in a dent" | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | (12:53:02 AM) update@identi.ca: bugabundo: see @fta: you cant even sent \o/ in a dent | 00:53 |
| fta | i can't | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber:read/1 | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | oops | 00:53 |
| fta | i get o/ unless i send \\o/ | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | http://identi.ca/notice/6256964 | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | I see it there | 00:54 |
| fta | gwibber? | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | I see it fine | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | all forms | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber, xmpp, web | 00:54 |
| fta | bug 353705 | 00:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 353705 in gwibber "gwibber fails to correctly dent purposefully escaped characters" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353705 | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | fixed? | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | WFM | 00:56 |
| BUGabundo | try pinging me | 00:56 |
| fta | hm, seems ok now | 00:56 |
| fta | but i nearly gave up on gwibber, too many crashes/freezes | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | it just restarted for me 4 times | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | while I've been online tonight | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | I said it before: I run it with $ watch -n10 gwibber | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | even have an alias | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | wgwibber | 00:58 |
| BUGabundo | fta: your dent looks good | 00:58 |
| asac | fta: did you ever try to get a reasonable backtrace on gwibber? | 01:02 |
| asac | i wonder if its webkit crashes | 01:02 |
| BUGabundo | asac: if I knew how to debug python and upstream looked at bug | 01:02 |
| asac | otherwise the python must be really dirty ;) | 01:02 |
| BUGabundo | *bugs | 01:02 |
| fta | bug 389505 | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 389505 in gwibber "gwibber crashes in pango @pango_layout_check_lines" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/389505 | 01:02 |
| BUGabundo | I would file way too many more | 01:02 |
| BUGabundo | I've stopped 'cause it was usselless | 01:02 |
| fta | bug 380618 | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 380618 in gwibber "gwibber (new theming engine) pango segmentation fault @pango_layout_get_iter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380618 | 01:02 |
| BUGabundo | yeah most bugs are pango | 01:03 |
| BUGabundo | I've increased gwibber cache too 100 dents WOOT | 01:04 |
| BUGabundo | I now can go back 2h | 01:04 |
| asac | hmm cant repro | 01:05 |
| BUGabundo | or 5 days on replies eheh | 01:05 |
| asac | what does "text scroll" mean? | 01:05 |
| asac | fta: how long to wait? | 01:06 |
| asac | one reload? | 01:06 |
| BUGabundo | ** (gwibber:19904): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowState' as flags when in fact it is of type 'GEnum' | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | ** (gwibber:19904): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowActions' as flags when in fact it is of type 'GEnum' | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | ** (gwibber:19904): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowMoveResizeMask' as flags when in fact it is of type 'GEnum | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | /usr/bin/gwibber:79: PangoWarning: pango_layout_line_unref: assertion `private->ref_count > 0' failed | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | gtk.main() | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | Bus error (core dumped) | 01:07 |
| fta | asac, type more than the window width, and wait | 01:07 |
| asac | fta: stay at the end of line with cursor? | 01:18 |
| asac | yay ;) | 01:18 |
| asac | now it happened | 01:18 |
| * asac a bit scared about gwibber threading approach | 01:19 | |
| asac | they have a process: function running in a thread | 01:19 |
| asac | and do something in a critical block | 01:19 |
| asac | something else they schedule on the main loop | 01:20 |
| asac | something else they do outside the critical block | 01:20 |
| asac | modifying an array most likely accessed by UI thread | 01:20 |
| asac | all the stuff that is done there, except the data retrievel most likely should go into the idle handler | 01:21 |
| micahg | asac: is it worth pointing out to people that they are running dailies when submitting bugs? | 01:21 |
| asac | micahg: depends | 01:22 |
| asac | micahg: dailies are actually good | 01:22 |
| asac | if they see some regression we should notify upstream rather quickly | 01:22 |
| asac | if is random noise | 01:22 |
| asac | then it doesnt matter either i guess ;) | 01:22 |
| micahg | ok, I was thinking people might have stuck with dailies instead of jumping off after the official release | 01:23 |
| asac | micahg: well. if they wanted dailies before, then they proably dont have a problem with dailies after the stable rlease | 01:24 |
| asac | the dailies become less risky after major release is out | 01:24 |
| asac | e.g. 3.5 upstream branch is now governed by stable branch policies | 01:24 |
| micahg | ok, I'll let it go then | 01:25 |
| * BUGabundo $ date; $ echo bedtime; $ aptitude why bed; $ echo guud pillow :p | 01:40 | |
| asac | fta: checkout lp:~asac/gwibber/dead-to-races | 01:41 |
| * BUGabundo hopes tommorow asac has guud gwibber news :) | 01:41 | |
| micahg | is anyone running the 3.5.1pre dailies? | 01:57 |
| dtchen | i was until i encountered the focus-grabbing issues | 01:57 |
| micahg | hmm | 01:57 |
| micahg | I wanted someone to test something that works for me on the stable version | 01:58 |
| micahg | should I just ask the user to try the stable version to see if it works? | 01:58 |
| micahg | !msgthebot > micahg | 05:49 |
| ubottu | micahg, please see my private message | 05:49 |
| NCommander | asac, fta ping? | 06:38 |
| NCommander | (or anyone who can upload thunderbird?) | 06:38 |
| mahfouz | will ff 3.5 ever become "firefox" in jaunty? | 09:03 |
| micahg | !ff35 | mahfouz | 09:05 |
| ubottu | mahfouz: Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY | 09:05 |
| mahfouz | yeah, but I want it as default browser | 09:05 |
| mahfouz | i mean it's more than a security update, but so were 3.0.8, 3.0.9 and so on | 09:05 |
| micahg | we don't change the default in a stable release | 09:06 |
| mahfouz | you changed 3.0.10 to 3.0.11 | 09:07 |
| micahg | that's a security update | 09:07 |
| mahfouz | as i said above, it's not JUST a security update | 09:07 |
| micahg | this is a version upgrade | 09:07 |
| micahg | that is the main purpose | 09:07 |
| micahg | occasionally a fix will be backported to the current branch from teh devel brance | 09:08 |
| micahg | but they are intended as major bugfix and security fix releases | 09:08 |
| micahg | FF3.5 is totally new functionality | 09:09 |
| micahg | and not all the other mozilla items in teh repos are compatible | 09:09 |
| micahg | therefore, it would not make sense to give it as an update | 09:09 |
| micahg | mahfouz: please reference this document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 09:11 |
| mahfouz | citizen, be paranoid | 09:12 |
| mahfouz | that's the spirit | 09:12 |
| micahg | huh? | 09:12 |
| mahfouz | from your url | 09:12 |
| micahg | I do not understand | 09:12 |
| mahfouz | i just quoted from your link | 09:13 |
| mahfouz | that's all | 09:13 |
| micahg | ah yes | 09:13 |
| mahfouz | what I am saying is that it's still 4 months to karmic and if ff 3.5 is tested and stable in the next weeks, then more and more users will want it as firefox in the repos | 09:13 |
| mahfouz | I for example have many scripts that use "firefox" and it would be a hassle to rewrite them all | 09:14 |
| micahg | that doesn | 09:14 |
| mahfouz | and to have 2 default browsers on your desktop | 09:14 |
| micahg | no one is asking people to upgrade to 3.5 at this point | 09:14 |
| micahg | but it's there if people want to use it | 09:14 |
| micahg | ff3.5 is stable currently | 09:15 |
| micahg | but that's not the issue | 09:15 |
| micahg | the issue is we don't change app versions in a stable release unless the criteria on that wiki page are met | 09:15 |
| mahfouz | well, I understand your reasoning but there will be many people asking for an official browser upgrade in the weeks and months before karmic release | 09:16 |
| micahg | it won't happen in Ubuntu | 09:17 |
| micahg | it just doesn't work like that | 09:17 |
| micahg | Stable release means all the components have been tested together | 09:17 |
| micahg | we do not have the resources to do a full test like that on Firefox 3.5 | 09:17 |
| micahg | and work on karmic | 09:18 |
| micahg | that's why the rules are so strict on stable releases | 09:18 |
| micahg | otherwise, the os would be unreliable | 09:18 |
| micahg | FF3.0 will continue to recevie security fixes for the foreseeable future | 09:18 |
| micahg | ff3.5 will be the default in karmic | 09:19 |
| micahg | ff3.5 in jaunty was a courtest | 09:19 |
| micahg | courtesy | 09:19 |
| Lantizia | if it's a courtesy why can't the courtesy include a backport that has the right logo and replaces firefox-3.0 | 09:19 |
| Lantizia | for those who want it | 09:19 |
| mahfouz | yo! supporter to my cause! | 09:20 |
| micahg | Lantizia: when someone does a favor for you, do you throw it back in their face and say this is not good enough? | 09:20 |
| mahfouz | micahg: i might | 09:20 |
| Lantizia | I didn't switch from debian to ubuntu for my desktop for "ultra high and mighty stability rules" | 09:20 |
| Lantizia | I swapped because you've got the latest and greatest | 09:20 |
| Lantizia | This would seem to go against that | 09:20 |
| mahfouz | yeah, give us the your huddled crashes! | 09:21 |
| mahfouz | Lantizia: you drove him out of the channel :) | 09:21 |
| Lantizia | lol | 09:21 |
| micahg1 | sorry | 09:21 |
| micahg1 | got disconnected | 09:21 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| mahfouz | btw Lantizia, there is a daily build repo for mozilla but I dunno if this would update your "firefox" package | 09:22 |
| Lantizia | mahfouz, it's no different to the one in main | 09:22 |
| micahg | well, the daily is the preview of 3.5.1 | 09:22 |
| Lantizia | no I wasn't on about the daily, I was on about the security | 09:23 |
| Lantizia | I have SNS syndrome and I have it bad, this is why I'm trying Ubuntu again (last time was version 5 and 6) | 09:24 |
| micahg | SNS? | 09:24 |
| Lantizia | Shiny New Shit | 09:24 |
| micahg | yeah | 09:24 |
| mahfouz | in a sense you should upgrade to 3.5 because it also improves security if I understand mozilla correctly | 09:24 |
| micahg | so, FF3.5 works just fine | 09:24 |
| micahg | mahfouz: no, it's a separate branch with its own security concerns | 09:25 |
| Lantizia | I get that firefox-3.5 _should not_ auto-update firefox_3.0 package | 09:25 |
| Lantizia | I don't get (at all) why on earth theres a need to add the version to the package name | 09:25 |
| Lantizia | But I do think if you add a backport repo that has firefox_3.5 it should upgrade and replace firefox 3.0 | 09:25 |
| micahg | so we could have multiple versions (i.e. 3.5 in Jaunty) | 09:25 |
| Lantizia | micahg, But why bother when firefox 3.5 is stable!? | 09:26 |
| micahg | Lantizia: ff3.5 in Jaunty is not a backport | 09:26 |
| mahfouz | i actually support Lantizia's idea, that would give everybody what they wanted | 09:26 |
| Lantizia | micahg, if you want to test both because one is in beta then call the package shirako | 09:26 |
| mahfouz | micahg: exactly | 09:26 |
| micahg | Jaunty shipped with 2 versions of Firefox | 09:26 |
| micahg | Jaunty keeps 2 versions of Firefox | 09:26 |
| mahfouz | well it's not so outrageous that a backport has a newer version | 09:26 |
| Lantizia | versions _DON'T belong_ in package names... ever! | 09:27 |
| micahg | Lantizia: that makes upgrades confusing | 09:27 |
| micahg | Lantizia: if you support multiple versions they do | 09:27 |
| mahfouz | but firefox has different versions in edgy hardy etc | 09:27 |
| micahg | Lantizia: are you familiar with gcc? | 09:28 |
| Lantizia | yeah thats different tho | 09:28 |
| micahg | Lantizia: why? | 09:28 |
| Lantizia | because it's a matter of compatibility, a fundamental package others really do depend on | 09:28 |
| Lantizia | firefox is just an app | 09:28 |
| micahg | mysql? | 09:28 |
| Lantizia | and postgresql? :D | 09:28 |
| Lantizia | does my head in the number of versions postgres has in the repo's | 09:29 |
| micahg | the point is, it's a necessary evil if you want to support multiple versions | 09:29 |
| Lantizia | well mozilla give them other names! codenames! use them! | 09:29 |
| micahg | maybe I should just suggest that we only ship one version of firefox per release inthe future to avoid this | 09:29 |
| Lantizia | firefox _doesn't_ keep TWO versions of firefox stable at the same time | 09:29 |
| micahg | then everyone would have to wait until the next release to even get it | 09:29 |
| Lantizia | when they're done with one, they're done with it | 09:29 |
| micahg | Lantizia: yes, they do | 09:30 |
| Lantizia | so why have two packages maintained! | 09:30 |
| micahg | until it | 09:30 |
| micahg | 's EOL | 09:30 |
| mahfouz | but you could have a repo in which "firefox" is a metapackage that refers to ff 3.5, right? | 09:30 |
| micahg | mahfouz: that will be in karmic | 09:30 |
| mahfouz | not yet | 09:30 |
| Lantizia | I'd only see a point in that if firefox3.5 had the right logos | 09:30 |
| mahfouz | or is it? | 09:30 |
| micahg | I believe | 09:30 |
| Lantizia | I got tired of seeing Iceweasel | 09:30 |
| micahg | no, not yet | 09:30 |
| Lantizia | now I've got a stupid globe | 09:30 |
| mahfouz | ff in karmic is still 3.0 | 09:31 |
| micahg | It's 3:30 am for me | 09:31 |
| mahfouz | http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/firefox | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | it's 9:30am here :) | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | and I'm at work, yay for IRC! | 09:31 |
| mahfouz | it's 10:30 here :) | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | germany? | 09:31 |
| mahfouz | yo | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | :D | 09:31 |
| mahfouz | british or port? | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | need to learn me some german, theres so many of you on the net! :D | 09:31 |
| Lantizia | british old chap | 09:31 |
| micahg | Here's the spec for the Karmic firefox conversion | 09:32 |
| micahg | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5 | 09:32 |
| micahg | I ahve to go to sleep | 09:32 |
| Lantizia | right well I'm taking your firefox 3.5 package, putting the right logos on it and putting it in a repo of my own on PPA! | 09:32 |
| Lantizia | and calling it "shock horror" .... firefox | 09:32 |
| micahg | Lantizia: Mozilla has rules for using their branding | 09:33 |
| Lantizia | oh and they can argue it's not the finished product can they? | 09:33 |
| micahg | if you want to worry about all that, I cannot advise you | 09:33 |
| mahfouz | call it "the rocky horror firefox" | 09:33 |
| micahg | I cannot advise such things | 09:34 |
| micahg | good night | 09:36 |
| mahfouz | bye | 09:36 |
| macvr | hi all... I'm using ff3.5 in Jaunty from the universe repo , how do i solve this weird fonts problem? http://imagebin.ca/view/VmKFcSp.html | 09:42 |
| macvr | it does not happen with FF3 | 09:42 |
| macvr | asac: ^ any ideas , about what i'm doing wrong? | 09:43 |
| * asac looks | 09:50 | |
| asac | macvr: not sure whats the problem is (my eyes are really bad for fonts) | 09:51 |
| macvr | the fonts are not rendered properly... just sec ... i'll show same image from ff3 | 09:52 |
| macvr | asac: http://imagebin.ca/view/t8Gvcy.html this is in FF3 | 09:54 |
| macvr | i have the same problems even when i use swiftfox, [FF3.5] | 09:55 |
| macvr | anyone else having the same problem? | 10:01 |
| asac | macvr: i dont see a problem ;) | 10:15 |
| asac | but thats my eyes i guess | 10:15 |
| asac | is it different hinting? | 10:16 |
| macvr | yes... the fonts are not smooth | 10:16 |
| macvr | asac: this problem is obvious since the rest of the fonts in the system are rendered well | 10:17 |
| asac | macvr: what hinting have you set system wide? | 10:24 |
| macvr | asac: just a sec... i'm making a better screnshot | 10:24 |
| asac | macvr: i dont want a sreenshot | 10:24 |
| asac | macvr: what hinting are you having set in gnome preference dialog? | 10:25 |
| asac | full? | 10:25 |
| macvr | asac: i have superimposed the ff3 image >http://imagebin.ca/view/ZiAczB.html | 10:25 |
| macvr | yup...hinting is full | 10:25 |
| asac | ok change to hinting slight | 10:26 |
| asac | does that match what you see in firefox? | 10:26 |
| macvr | asac: whe i set, hinting to none and smoothing to grey scale , it matches the FF3.5 | 10:27 |
| macvr | when^ | 10:27 |
| asac | hm | 10:33 |
| asac | thats not what i can confirm | 10:34 |
| asac | its usually whatever you have configured in your fontconfig | 10:34 |
| asac | ignoring gnome settings | 10:34 |
| asac | we ship slight by default | 10:34 |
| asac | maybe you tweaked them once manually | 10:34 |
| asac | anyway. i think its known | 10:34 |
| macvr | what about Hinting? | 10:34 |
| asac | bug 379761 | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379761 in firefox-3.5 "FF 3.5 font hinting wrong in content area" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379761 | 10:34 |
| macvr | ah... i just couldnt find anywhere else about this problem... thats for the bug :) | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | morning | 10:49 |
| asac | hi gnomefreak | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac: do you know of a setting in Tbird-3 to enable the list of people who commented on email or is this an upstream feature/bug? Handy to know before i ask Mozilla about it. | 10:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: "enable the list of people who commented on email" | 10:56 |
| asac | what does that mean? | 10:56 |
| asac | (i dont understand the feature request) | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | asac: in tbird-3 looking at your inbox it used to list the senders name after the title. no longer does this | 10:58 |
| gnomefreak | i cant find a setting in advanced menu for it | 10:59 |
| * gnomefreak also has ideas you are not going to like with ubufox, i will wait to bring them up ;) | 11:00 | |
| gnomefreak | i guess xulrunner-1.9.1 is not the same in Debian as it is in Ubuntu | 11:02 |
| macvr | asac: thans a lot for the bug , editing the .fonts.conf solved the font problem | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | thatnks for the bug fix or thanks for the work-around might have been a better way to say that. thanks for the bug sounds like he introduced a bug | 11:08 |
| asac | macvr: thx | 11:09 |
| macvr | gnomefreak: he gave me the bug number... ;p | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | oh :) | 11:10 |
| asac | hehe | 11:12 |
| asac | all fine | 11:12 |
| asac | i knew the context at lesat ;) | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | !realplayer | 11:24 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | i dont get it, i thought realplayer wasnt in repos | 11:25 |
| bdrung_ | asac: how is the progress of mozilla-devscripts for Debian? | 11:26 |
| asac | bdrung_: is in NEW | 11:41 |
| asac | http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html | 11:41 |
| bdrung_ | asac: cool | 11:41 |
| bdrung_ | yesterday one of my packages waiting in NEW was accepted. | 11:41 |
| asac | heh | 11:41 |
| asac | sounds good | 11:41 |
| bdrung_ | some days ago there were about 270 packages in NEW | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | are greasemonkey scripts only perl or does it take other scripts like python? | 11:50 |
| ramvi1 | I'm having a hard time compiling firefox from source, which is kind of essential to contribute :p I bzr branch to get the code and debuild to get a deb, but it failes with | 12:03 |
| ramvi1 | 3 out of 3 hunks ignored | 12:03 |
| ramvi1 | Patch firefox-profilename does not apply (enforce with -f) | 12:03 |
| ramvi1 | make: *** [debian/stamp-patched] Error 1 | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: maybe bzr-builddeb would help or you may need to edit patch (not here atm) | 12:04 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: 3.0.11 and 3.5 both have working patches. Did you update branch using latest 3.0.11 branch (or use the repo version) | 12:08 |
| ramvi1 | gnomefreak: Right, ok, so bzr branch lp:firefox, then bzr-buildpackage ? I seem to get errors then too. Isn't it weird that I have to edit the scripts? | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | i dont remember the contents of that patch off hand | 12:09 |
| ramvi1 | I'm trying to build 3.5 | 12:09 |
| ramvi1 | So that's like just Branch lp:firefox | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: you shouldnt have to since 3.5 in repos builds just fine (assuming you didnt change branding | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | s/ /) | 12:10 |
| ramvi1 | right, I didn't change anything. That's what's weird | 12:10 |
| ramvi1 | so there's no secret? You just bzr get the code and debuild it? | 12:11 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: i know my seamonkey-2.0 build i have to update patch. Quilt should beable to fix it for you | 12:11 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: should work or even apt-get source firefox-3.5 and build than push to your branch | 12:11 |
| ramvi1 | apt-get source gives me beta4 | 12:12 |
| gnomefreak | mozilla team branch should be without problems but that is same as the version pushed to official repos | 12:12 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: what ubuntu version? | 12:12 |
| ramvi1 | I'm running jaunty | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | !info firefox-3.5 jaunty | 12:13 |
| ubottu | firefox-3.5 (source: firefox-3.5): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 (jaunty), package size 907 kB, installed size 3524 kB | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: its final release in jaunty | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: name will still be shireoko | 12:13 |
| ramvi1 | yeah I know, but the dir said b4, guess that doesn't mean anything then | 12:14 |
| ramvi1 | gnomefreak: firefox-3.5 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | it shouldnt i dont have source for it atm | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: thats not an up-to-date tarball than | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: sounds like however if you use apt-get source it is the right tarball. just sounds like you are not up to date for some reason | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | ramvi1: make sure changelog has the right version, if so just rename the toplever dir | 12:16 |
| ramvi1 | ok, i'll look into it. thanks for your time | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | np | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | asac: are you using same ubufox branch for Debian and Ubuntu? | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | sorry not ubufox but mozilla-devscripts | 12:18 |
| NCommander | asac, ping! | 12:23 |
| NCommander | fta, ping? | 12:26 |
| gnomefreak | i'm suprised no hate mail from my bug comment on update-notifier :) | 12:32 |
| asac | NCommander: tbird upload? | 12:34 |
| NCommander | asac, yes please :-)? | 12:34 |
| NCommander | asac, (slangasek was wondering why its been two weeks and no upload ...) | 12:35 |
| asac | NCommander: i dont care about what he wonders ;) | 12:35 |
| * gnomefreak thinks this channel is better than working atm | 12:36 | |
| gnomefreak | 2.0 is latest version in repos | 12:37 |
| * gnomefreak goes back to own little world | 12:37 | |
| gnomefreak | asac: btw good luck getting flashgot devs to email back | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | !info sunbird jaunty | 12:41 |
| ubottu | sunbird (source: lightning-sunbird): Sunbird stand-alone Calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 7915 kB, installed size 23696 kB | 12:41 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can you please push sunbird ubuntu3 it fixes the armel build failure | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | !info sunbird karmic | 12:42 |
| ubottu | sunbird (source: lightning-sunbird): Sunbird stand-alone Calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 7915 kB, installed size 23696 kB | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 12:42 |
| asac | gnomefreak: did you include the sunbird patches ;) | 12:45 |
| asac | NCommander: i will upload it before next alpha | 12:45 |
| asac | we can move it bak to in progress if that stops slangasek bugging | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes it is patched and works | 12:45 |
| NCommander | asac, please comment that on the bug. We really need to get this SRU'ed though | 12:45 |
| asac | SRUed? didnt know about that | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | i updated the bug with the branch and PPA info | 12:46 |
| NCommander | asac, yeah, we needed this fixed in jaunty | 12:46 |
| asac | i will talk to lool about that | 12:46 |
| * NCommander though we had discussed this ... | 12:46 | |
| asac | i dont want to SRU something if there will be a PPA for other stuff | 12:46 |
| NCommander | asac, lool will have a better list of impressions for it | 12:46 |
| asac | NCommander: i knew that you wanted to get this planned | 12:46 |
| asac | but i didnt know that there are no other problems | 12:47 |
| * gnomefreak hopes m-d will grab latest 1.0 | 12:47 | |
| NCommander | asac, lool will know specifically what we need. I just wanted to make sure this didn't fall off your radar | 12:47 |
| asac | ok | 12:47 |
| asac | i will talk to him | 12:47 |
| asac | NCommander: anyway i will upload this afternoon | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | hold off on sunbird i am fixing branches | 13:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: what is with the name of thunderbird-2.0 using the .nspr...? | 13:22 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, I think I left feedback on the bug, but the ARM fix you committed didn't fix it -/ | 13:23 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes. plese pick the other as well | 13:24 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: the jaunty branch is messed up atm. im working on it, will build again once im done | 13:24 |
| asac | gnomefreak: there is one more in tbird branch | 13:24 |
| macvr | asac: the set as default browser doesnt work > even though. browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser < is set true | 13:24 |
| asac | gnomefreak: go for the .head branch fo rnow | 13:24 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i used both xpcom patches | 13:24 |
| macvr | is that purposeful? | 13:24 |
| gnomefreak | asac: where is the head branch? | 13:25 |
| asac | macvr: what is your current default browser in preferred applications? | 13:25 |
| asac | (gnome) | 13:25 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i dont know where you hvae your sunbird head branch | 13:25 |
| asac | maybe its called .dev | 13:25 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, it will probably segfault with xpicom issues. Try cherrypicking the patches we dumped on the TB2 branch. | 13:25 |
| asac | i mean: fix it on the karmic branch and not on the jaunty branch for now | 13:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: working on it | 13:26 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, I can test any proposed fix on ARM trivially | 13:26 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: good thanks i will let you know when branches are up | 13:26 |
| macvr | asac: gnome , browser shows custom.. | 13:26 |
| macvr | but every time i click a link in a different app , the FF3 opens the link | 13:27 |
| macvr | changed it manually from /usr/bin/firefox %s > firefox3.5 %s | 13:30 |
| asac | macvr: what command do you have in custom? | 13:31 |
| andrew_sayers | asac: I was asking a while ago about Flash and screensavers. Since you guys understandably have more important things right now, would you object if I took it straight to the upstream nspluginwrapper devs? | 13:31 |
| asac | macvr: i think if its /usr/bin/firefox | 13:31 |
| macvr | it was^ | 13:31 |
| asac | andrew_sayers: sure. submit the patch there. | 13:31 |
| asac | andrew_sayers: i am subscribed to the list too | 13:31 |
| asac | macvr: if its like that its expected that you dont get asked | 13:31 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: i found the problem :) | 13:31 |
| gnomefreak | i think | 13:32 |
| asac | macvr: but if you set it to something else it should work | 13:32 |
| asac | macvr: if that doesnt then its a bug | 13:32 |
| asac | (we should file) | 13:32 |
| macvr | asac: ... Check now also doesnt work ... | 13:32 |
| macvr | i'll do more testing. | 13:32 |
| asac | fta: did you check the gwibber branch i posted? | 13:32 |
| asac | fta: it fixes all segfaults from what i can tell | 13:33 |
| asac | if you want, check it out | 13:33 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/dead-to-races | 13:33 |
| asac | fta: let me know if you can still reproduce your crash | 13:35 |
| macvr | asac: i tried again , selected the firefox from drop down as the default app > selected check now > nothing happens > tried a restart with the check at start up checked > still doesnt switch /detect. | 13:36 |
| macvr | asac: so shall i file a new bug? | 13:36 |
| asac | macvr: no. i am saying if its "firefox" its ok | 13:37 |
| asac | macvr: set it to something else | 13:37 |
| asac | like konqueror or so | 13:37 |
| macvr | ok.. | 13:37 |
| asac | if that still doesnt work, then file a bug, yes. | 13:37 |
| macvr | will try again | 13:37 |
| asac | thx | 13:37 |
| macvr | asac: no... tired with setting epiphany as default , still doesnt check ... but IMO even if Firefox3 is set as default it should work... I'm filing a new bug | 13:47 |
| asac | macvr: well. we have some hard coded hack in ffox code base | 13:49 |
| asac | that would prevent it to check if its firefox | 13:49 |
| asac | (because we assume it will be firefox at some point) | 13:49 |
| asac | if it doesnt check thats ok | 13:49 |
| asac | macvr: do you have gnome-support installed ? | 13:49 |
| * macvr checking | 13:50 | |
| asac | thas required | 13:50 |
| asac | otherwise it wont integrate with your gnome preferred settings | 13:50 |
| macvr | ah!... firefox 3 has it but not 3.5 | 13:50 |
| macvr | asac: shouldnt it be installed as dependencies? | 13:51 |
| macvr | Bug #357651 has been set as invalid | 13:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357651 in firefox-3.5 "firefox-3.5 not adding Shiretoko entry to preferred applications" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357651 | 13:51 |
| asac | macvr: well. kubuntu folks complained about it so its a suggest now | 13:53 |
| asac | will get pulled in through ubunu-desktop when it beomes the default | 13:53 |
| macvr | asac: ok.. installing gnome-support fixes this. it now checks... so maybe something could be done , where only gnome side uses it as dependency ? | 13:54 |
| macvr | for jaunty users | 13:55 |
| asac | no | 13:55 |
| asac | we cannot do anything about it unfortunately | 13:55 |
| asac | i wanted to keep it as recommends | 13:55 |
| asac | but kubuntu folks complained too much and a real solution is not in sight | 13:55 |
| macvr | :( there are going to be a lot of confused Jaunty users | 13:56 |
| macvr | asac: alteast you could add t to your blogs | 13:56 |
| macvr | !ff35 | 13:57 |
| ubottu | Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY | 13:57 |
| macvr | the one linked in this ^url?^ | 13:57 |
| asac | yes | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | you never commented on that bug. | 14:14 |
| asac | gnomefreak: on which bug? | 14:15 |
| gnomefreak | asac: pushing branch should be published soon | 14:15 |
| asac | k | 14:15 |
| gnomefreak | bug 358084 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 358084 in lightning-sunbird "Sunbird 0.9 fails to build on Armel arch" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/358084 | 14:15 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ill give you link to branch once its published | 14:15 |
| bluekuja | asac, hi | 14:18 |
| bluekuja | asac, what can be wrong here http://sourceforge.net/projects/dtorrent/files/dtorrent/ctorrent-dnh(\d.*)\.tar.gz ? | 14:18 |
| bluekuja | this is into a watch file | 14:18 |
| bluekuja | ctorrent versioning is like this: ctorrent-dnh3.3.2.tar.gz | 14:19 |
| asac | no ide. i guess you cannot use watch files with sourceforge that way | 14:19 |
| asac | e.g. they dont even provide a file listing | 14:19 |
| asac | http://sourceforge.net/projects/dtorrent/files/dtorrent | 14:20 |
| bluekuja | project is dtorrent | 14:20 |
| bluekuja | file is ctorrent | 14:20 |
| asac | if you go there you get some kind of custom site | 14:20 |
| asac | yes | 14:20 |
| asac | but it doesnt give yo ua file listing | 14:20 |
| asac | so how would watch figure which tar to download | 14:20 |
| bluekuja | so it's impossible | 14:20 |
| bluekuja | to have it? | 14:21 |
| sebner | asac: öhö! ff3.5 dies when switching to fullscreen mode in flash vidz | 14:21 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know what OEM Priority is? | 14:21 |
| asac | bluekuja: i dont know. i dont use watch files that much | 14:21 |
| asac | but lots of others love htem | 14:21 |
| bluekuja | ok | 14:21 |
| asac | ask in -motu | 14:22 |
| bluekuja | ok | 14:22 |
| asac | or debian-devel on oftc | 14:22 |
| sebner | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/214722/ ;) ;) ;) | 14:22 |
| Paddy_NI | Hey guys I installed firefox-3.5 from the universe repository on ubuntu jaunty 64bit and I cannot seem to get it to run.. when I start firefox-3.5 from a terminal I guy a segmentation fault | 14:23 |
| bluekuja | sebner, here? | 14:23 |
| bluekuja | lol | 14:23 |
| Paddy_NI | *get | 14:23 |
| asac | hmm | 14:23 |
| asac | sebner: not sure. thats just with flash? | 14:24 |
| sebner | bluekuja: sure, Annoying asac is fun :D | 14:24 |
| sebner | asac: yep | 14:24 |
| bluekuja | lol | 14:24 |
| asac | or can you reproduce with full screen? | 14:24 |
| asac | without flash? | 14:24 |
| * gnomefreak doesnt have an issue in Jaunty or Karmic running 3.5. try firefox-3.5 --safe-mode | 14:24 | |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: good point | 14:24 |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: segmentation fault :( | 14:25 |
| sebner | asac: I tried different flash sources. just go on youtube, choose a video start it, use fullscreen and it dies | 14:25 |
| gnomefreak | in --safe-mode? | 14:25 |
| sebner | gnomefreak: also not working | 14:25 |
| Paddy_NI | yep gnomefreak | 14:25 |
| asac | Paddy_NI: strace -eopen -f firefox-3.5 .... paste the putput please | 14:26 |
| asac | output | 14:26 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: can you run with --fail-safe maybe we will get lucky and its the same as sebner's :) see http://paste.ubuntu.com/214722/ | 14:26 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: is it anysite? | 14:26 |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: it just wont load at all | 14:26 |
| Paddy_NI | asac: ok just a sec | 14:26 |
| gnomefreak | asac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x.9.10 | 14:26 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats not all patches for armel i think | 14:27 |
| asac | NCommander: ^ | 14:27 |
| gnomefreak | asac: in tbird it is from what i saw | 14:27 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, there should be two for it | 14:28 |
| Paddy_NI | asac: how would I tell that command to output to a file on my desktop as there is too much output for scrollback? | 14:28 |
| gnomefreak | bz322806_arm-vfp-2538:3f78d5e894bc.patch??? | 14:28 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: i added 2 | 14:28 |
| gnomefreak | 18 and 38 xpcom | 14:28 |
| NCommander | that looks right | 14:28 |
| asac | * Fixes (LP: #358084): add arm(el) xpcom patches from thunderbird package - add debian/patches/18_arm_xpcom_unused_attribute.dpatch - add debian/patches/38_arm_xpcom_optim.dpatch | 14:29 |
| asac | NCommander: those are enough? | 14:29 |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: fail safe also gives a segfault | 14:29 |
| gnomefreak | asac: tbird builds so that should be good | 14:29 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, builds isn't enough | 14:29 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: did it give you output? | 14:29 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, it will segfault without the EABI fixes | 14:29 |
| Paddy_NI | gnome none | 14:29 |
| Paddy_NI | err | 14:29 |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: none at all mate | 14:29 |
| Paddy_NI | just the segfault | 14:29 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: its up-to-date finail release? | 14:30 |
| bluekuja | asac, the get-orig-source will work? | 14:30 |
| gnomefreak | branding is unofficial | 14:30 |
| bluekuja | asac, with sf | 14:30 |
| Paddy_NI | well which ever version is in universe gnomefreak | 14:30 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 | 14:30 |
| * gnomefreak wonders if it ended up in -security | 14:31 | |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/214731/ | 14:31 |
| gnomefreak | 3.5 is my default browser in Jaunty/Karmic and it runs fine | 14:31 |
| Paddy_NI | yeah seems to run perfectly for most | 14:31 |
| Paddy_NI | this is a pretty fresh clean install of ubuntu too | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | the other one left :( | 14:32 |
| Paddy_NI | :( | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: yeah its in -updates by the looks of it | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: does it produce a crash file in /var/crash | 14:33 |
| Paddy_NI | gnomefreak: I will have a look | 14:33 |
| asac | first get me the strace | 14:33 |
| Paddy_NI | asac: how do I make that command output to a file | 14:33 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: strace first :) s | 14:33 |
| Paddy_NI | scroll back is to large I cannot get it all | 14:33 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: > filename should work | 14:34 |
| Paddy_NI | ok | 14:34 |
| sebner | asac: do you also need something from me? | 14:34 |
| gnomefreak | > will overwrite anything in the file if it is already there | 14:34 |
| asac | Paddy_NI: append &> /tmp/out.txt | 14:34 |
| Paddy_NI | ok | 14:34 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: i use command 2>&1 | tee build-log.txt :) | 14:35 |
| asac | sebner: works for me | 14:35 |
| sebner | :( | 14:35 |
| asac | sebner: try to use nspluginwrapper maybe | 14:35 |
| asac | i am using it on 32bit | 14:35 |
| asac | so might be different | 14:35 |
| * sebner -> 32 bit | 14:36 | |
| gnomefreak | oh crap Paddy_NI your on 64bit? | 14:36 |
| Paddy_NI | would that be a problem | 14:36 |
| * gnomefreak had a flash thought | 14:36 | |
| Paddy_NI | http://paste.ubuntu.com/214738/ | 14:36 |
| Paddy_NI | strace | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | Paddy_NI: did you get flash from our repos with nspluginwrapper? just checking | 14:38 |
| asac | Paddy_NI: try with a fresh profile | 14:39 |
| gnomefreak | IIRC flash go to xulrunner | 14:39 |
| Paddy_NI | hmm | 14:39 |
| asac | e.g. mv $HOME/.mozilla $HOME/mybackout | 14:39 |
| asac | you hav ecolourful tabs extension which has always been a PITA | 14:39 |
| Paddy_NI | ah | 14:39 |
| Paddy_NI | :( | 14:39 |
| gnomefreak | asac: --safe-mode fails too he said | 14:40 |
| Paddy_NI | yeah | 14:40 |
| asac | well | 14:40 |
| gnomefreak | that should drop all extensions | 14:40 |
| asac | try to move it away | 14:40 |
| asac | some dont use -safe-mode properly | 14:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no necessarily | 14:40 |
| gnomefreak | good point | 14:40 |
| Paddy_NI | got it... although I will have to resume this in about an hour as I am getting a lift home now :( | 14:40 |
| Paddy_NI | sorry guys although I have the log of this convo and I will check back | 14:41 |
| gnomefreak | thats a whole lot of extensions | 14:41 |
| gnomefreak | Lp is not helpful with the OEM project :( | 14:44 |
| macvr | this maybe a silly question , but does this work for any of you in FF3.5 > http://www.youtube.com/html5 , | 14:48 |
| macvr | isnt FF3.5 html5 conmptible or do i have to set it somewhere? | 14:49 |
| macvr | compatible^ | 14:49 |
| asac | macvr: it wont work becaues ffox doesnt support the codec used by youtube | 14:50 |
| * gnomefreak checking | 14:50 | |
| asac | its kind of a fight between mozilla/opera and google | 14:50 |
| asac | mozilla wants to not support proprietary codecs to improve the idea of the open web | 14:50 |
| macvr | :/ | 14:50 |
| asac | google wants stuff to stay proprietary and doesnt mind if open source folks cannot get a good solution | 14:51 |
| gnomefreak | i guess its not flash? | 14:51 |
| asac | its video tag | 14:51 |
| macvr | gnomefreak: no its not flash | 14:51 |
| gnomefreak | saw | 14:51 |
| fta | asac, it's not about proprietary or not, it's about quality per bit | 14:52 |
| asac | thats what they say | 14:52 |
| asac | yeah | 14:52 |
| fta | i'm in contact with some video guys from google | 14:52 |
| asac | yeah, but those get their input from product manangement ;) | 14:53 |
| macvr | ^ 0.0 | 14:53 |
| asac | personally i compared the example videos and i didnt see any big difference ;) | 14:53 |
| fta | size | 14:54 |
| macvr | asac: yeah.. it looked nice | 14:54 |
| asac | no same size example videos | 14:54 |
| fta | you do better with h264 for the same size, or the same with less bits | 14:55 |
| asac | thats what they claim ... but for the examples i saw it was only marginally | 14:55 |
| asac | same-size examples | 14:55 |
| asac | point is that google has the power to get us to an open-web | 14:56 |
| asac | they also have the bandwidth ;) | 14:56 |
| asac | but they want h264 ;) | 14:56 |
| * asac stops ranting | 14:56 | |
| asac | fta: if you could try to reproduce your crash in my gwibber branch i would be grateful ;) | 15:00 |
| asac | it doesnt crash here anymore | 15:01 |
| gnomefreak | make script smarter > pakcage script my limited knowledge of bash means it will be ready ~ 10.10 release | 15:01 |
| fta | asac, ppa? | 15:03 |
| gnomefreak | nightly doesnt crash :) | 15:03 |
| gnomefreak | or daily whatever the name of it is | 15:04 |
| asac | fta: just checkout and run ./bin/gwibber | 15:05 |
| asac | bzr branch lp:~asac/gwibber/dead-to-races; cd dead-to-races; ./bin/gwibber | 15:06 |
| asac | my claim is that it really fixes almost all segfaults that exist ... and most likely also lockups | 15:06 |
| fta | i'm sick of that systray bug, it's been there for more than a year | 15:18 |
| asac | you mean clicking doesnt open? | 15:19 |
| sebner | asac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/333127 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 333127 in flashplugin-nonfree "Firefox 3.5 and above crash on full screen flash video" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:20 |
| asac | gnomefreak: debian/patches/bz339782_cvs_xptcinvoke_arm_backport_1.13.patch | 15:20 |
| asac | that one yo need as well | 15:20 |
| gnomefreak | ya found a bug on tbird-3 problem :) | 15:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: for arm build issue? | 15:22 |
| gnomefreak | ok adding it and will push soon | 15:23 |
| bluekuja | asac, fast question | 15:24 |
| bluekuja | asac, I get this libssl.so.0.9.8 => /lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8 (0xb7f17000) | 15:24 |
| bluekuja | asac, is this a copyright violation? | 15:25 |
| bluekuja | asac, if package is licensed under gpl? | 15:25 |
| fta | asac, start gwibber (or liferea), make it visible in workspace 1, go to workspace 2, click on the tray icon, nothing happens (you see the window disappear from the workspace switcher & window selector applets), click again, nothing happens (the app is listed in [] into the window selector applet). | 15:25 |
| asac | fta: yeah | 15:25 |
| fta | this is really annoying | 15:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i guess that is from tbird-3? why didnt you add it to tbird-2? | 15:26 |
| asac | fta: do they use gtk_window_present? | 15:26 |
| asac | seems so | 15:26 |
| asac | yeah. i will think about it. have to recap all the background that lead to this | 15:26 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats from tbird 2 | 15:27 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we added it there | 15:27 |
| asac | you didnt look carefully enough on thunderbird.dev branch ;) | 15:27 |
| fta | xchat was fine for a long time, but it regressed a few days/weeks ago, it's no longer in the tray :( | 15:27 |
| asac | gnomefreak: lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.dev/ | 15:28 |
| gnomefreak | oops i see it now nautilus never updated itself | 15:28 |
| asac | lol | 15:28 |
| bluekuja | asac, so? | 15:29 |
| asac | bluekuja: yes. | 15:35 |
| asac | there must be an openssl exception in the license | 15:35 |
| asac | if its using openssl | 15:35 |
| asac | otherwise it should use gnutls | 15:35 |
| asac | One recommended way around this GPL incompatibility is to add an OpenSSL exemption when you license your code under the GPL. | 15:36 |
| asac | http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html | 15:36 |
| asac | * In addition, as a special exception, the copyright holders give | 15:36 |
| asac | ... | 15:36 |
| asac | thats how it works | 15:36 |
| asac | ok i am on the road for a few hours | 15:36 |
| asac | cu in 2-3 hours | 15:36 |
| asac | fta: if you see any crashes of gwibber in the meantime let me know | 15:36 |
| asac | otherwise ill just commit it i guess | 15:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ok pushed incase im not here when you return | 15:40 |
| gnomefreak | shit | 16:00 |
| gnomefreak | added wrong patch to series :( | 16:01 |
| gnomefreak | ok pushed the fixed version | 16:02 |
| fta | hm, is ~/Download a chromium thing, or is it gnome? | 16:23 |
| asac | fta: its xdg ... but we dont use that dir, so its most likely chrom | 16:23 |
| asac | e.g. we explicitly set Download to point to Desktop | 16:23 |
| asac | chromiuum shoujld honour xdg configuration | 16:23 |
| asac | grep DOWNLO /etc/xdg/* | 16:24 |
| asac | /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults:DOWNLOAD=Desktop | 16:24 |
| asac | so fi they use xdg config that shouldnt happen | 16:24 |
| fta | chrome complained about unfixed bug 220765 | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 220765 in xdg-utils "xdg-open should use xdg-mime instead of run-mailcap when no DE detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220765 | 16:24 |
| asac | they use a command line tool? | 16:27 |
| asac | hmm | 16:27 |
| asac | fta: any gwiber crash yet ;=? | 16:27 |
| fta | no, but i'm not touching it | 16:28 |
| asac | hehe ok | 16:28 |
| fta | asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=15565 | 16:40 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| micahg | ping asac | 17:23 |
| asac | micahg: ont he train still | 17:25 |
| asac | will be home in about 20 minutes | 17:25 |
| micahg | ah | 17:25 |
| asac | but go aheade ... currently my connection is ok ;) | 17:26 |
| asac | in case i dont answer, my connection was probably dropped | 17:26 |
| micahg | asac: I was wondering if you can check the logs, I had a conversation around 8AM UTC and was wondering if I defended the team appropriately | 17:27 |
| asac | will check ... have to get off now | 17:32 |
| asac | cu in a few | 17:32 |
| micahg | ok | 17:34 |
| asac | micahg: you did well | 18:02 |
| asac | micahg: you only kept discussing too long ;) | 18:02 |
| asac | i think the point that he uses firefox i many scripts is moot | 18:02 |
| asac | he should use x-www-browser | 18:02 |
| asac | which is an alternative we maintain | 18:02 |
| micahg | yeah, I was tired | 18:10 |
| micahg | when I'm tired I don't know when to stop | 18:11 |
| asac | heh | 18:11 |
| asac | well its tempting | 18:11 |
| asac | but dont feed the trolls ;) | 18:11 |
| asac | but feel free to discuss as long as you want ;) | 18:12 |
| asac | usually you dont change a thing though ;) | 18:12 |
| bluekuja | asac, | 18:13 |
| bluekuja | upstream should give the exception? | 18:13 |
| asac | bluekuja: upstream has to add that to the license headers everywhere | 18:13 |
| asac | and to the COPYING file | 18:13 |
| bluekuja | asac, which gonna be hard | 18:13 |
| bluekuja | asac, and what about gnutls? | 18:13 |
| asac | thats ok | 18:14 |
| bluekuja | asac, it does the same work? | 18:14 |
| bluekuja | asac, so I should try to change libssl lib with gnutls package? | 18:15 |
| asac | bluekuja: it requires patching most likely | 18:15 |
| asac | gnutls has a compatilbity layer for openssl apps, but usually there is some patching required still | 18:15 |
| asac | if the upstream source already supports it, then change it | 18:16 |
| bluekuja | asac, let me change that dep | 18:16 |
| bluekuja | i build it | 18:16 |
| bluekuja | and I see if it works | 18:16 |
| asac | if its supported there is mostlikely a configure switch, like --with-gnutls | 18:17 |
| asac | or something | 18:17 |
| bluekuja | package name is libgnutls-dev? | 18:17 |
| asac | apt-cache search ;) | 18:18 |
| bluekuja | asac, | 18:28 |
| bluekuja | I found this on configure | 18:28 |
| bluekuja | --with-ssl=no use builtin (Steve Reid's public-domain) SHA-1 code | 18:28 |
| bluekuja | do you think it will work? | 18:28 |
| asac | why not | 18:29 |
| asac | why do you ask me ;) | 18:29 |
| asac | you are the one sitting in frotn of the code | 18:29 |
| bluekuja | yeah, let's try | 18:29 |
| asac | trial and error ... or check the code ,) | 18:29 |
| bluekuja | I hope it will work | 18:29 |
| bluekuja | asac, yeah! | 18:33 |
| bluekuja | asac, it worke | 18:33 |
| bluekuja | * worked | 18:33 |
| bluekuja | whew, I saw it bad | 18:33 |
| micahg | asac: the gtk crashes from karmic, should I have people retry with 2.17.3? | 18:48 |
| asac | micahg: which gtk crashes? fileselector` | 18:49 |
| asac | ? | 18:49 |
| asac | sorry. i currently mostly rely on complains getting through to me | 18:49 |
| micahg | we have a few bug 396962 | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396962 in firefox-3.0 "firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_style_realize()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396962 | 18:49 |
| micahg | maybe just 1 :) | 18:50 |
| asac | thats a really old bug i think ;) | 18:51 |
| asac | yeah thats when theme is changed | 18:52 |
| asac | after some plugin messed up internal state | 18:52 |
| asac | we should have a mega bug somewhere for that | 18:52 |
| asac | with 200 duplicates or something | 18:52 |
| asac | maybe it was closed or left behind in firefox | 18:52 |
| asac | i dont think its fixed | 18:52 |
| micahg | yep, bug 216496 | 18:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 216496 in firefox-3.0 "MASTER firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216496 | 18:53 |
| asac | hmm | 18:53 |
| asac | thats not the one with 200 dupes ;) | 18:53 |
| micahg | bug 72018 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 72018 in xulrunner-1.9 "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 | 18:54 |
| asac | bug 72018 | 18:54 |
| asac | yeah | 18:54 |
| asac | bug 88011 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 88011 in firefox "Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88011 | 18:54 |
| asac | bug 91054 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 91054 in firefox "[Feisty FireFox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91054 | 18:54 |
| asac | bug 91334 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 91334 in xulrunner-1.9 "MASTER (variant) Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91334 | 18:54 |
| * micahg kicks ubottu | 18:54 | |
| asac | micahg: try the reproduction instructions in the last bug | 18:55 |
| micahg | I don't use themes | 18:56 |
| micahg | and I don't use gnome :) | 18:56 |
| * asac wonders if its the site is still the same | 18:56 | |
| asac | ah ok | 18:56 |
| asac | maybe you can just touch ~/.gtkrc ;) | 18:56 |
| micahg | I can't even get those videos to play right | 19:01 |
| bluekuja | asac, a DD did a security fix directly into the code of the package | 19:03 |
| bluekuja | asac, now, I'm replaying changed of that NMU | 19:03 |
| bluekuja | asac, should I make a patch or I can keep changing source directly? | 19:04 |
| macvr | asac: where should i look for changing the globe icon in 3.5? | 19:10 |
| macvr | \o/ found it | 19:19 |
| asac | bluekuja: depends. if the package has a patchsystem, stick to it | 19:25 |
| bluekuja | asac, nope | 19:25 |
| bluekuja | asac, it has not | 19:25 |
| asac | bluekuja: ensure that the patch has been forwarded upstream | 19:25 |
| asac | do that if not | 19:25 |
| asac | otherwise its probably hard to get a good diff later | 19:26 |
| bluekuja | asac, so you suggest me to make a patch | 19:26 |
| bluekuja | then | 19:26 |
| asac | bluekuja: for upstream | 19:26 |
| asac | for package not unless thats the first change done to code and you prefer a patchstem | 19:26 |
| asac | its your package | 19:26 |
| bluekuja | asac, there is a ready patch already for upstream | 19:26 |
| asac | but forwarding upstream is important | 19:26 |
| bluekuja | asac, that patch is taken from a cve somewhere, and I guess someone sent it to upstream already | 19:27 |
| bluekuja | but he didnt fix that yet | 19:27 |
| bluekuja | asac, anyway I have modified files manually | 19:27 |
| asac | if you modify them manually document all changes accribically | 19:28 |
| bluekuja | ok | 19:28 |
| bluekuja | asac, I gonna add the link to the diff | 19:28 |
| bluekuja | asac, on the changelog | 19:28 |
| bluekuja | it was on debian BTS | 19:28 |
| Paddy_NI | asac: Hey man | 19:30 |
| Paddy_NI | asac: Thanks for your time earlier and allowing me my first proper use of strace :) | 19:30 |
| asac | hehe | 19:31 |
| Paddy_NI | thank gnomefreak for me if you see him also :) | 19:31 |
| asac | yeah - if i remember then ;) | 19:31 |
| bluekuja | asac, why when I try to build the package he asks for ctorrent_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz | 19:38 |
| bluekuja | and not the version I used on the latest changelog entry? | 19:38 |
| bluekuja | asac, I was sure that it would have read changelog | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | versioning | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | asac, at first he asks for that package | 19:40 |
| bluekuja | and then for the right orig | 19:40 |
| bluekuja | with correct versionibg | 19:40 |
| asac | not sure. it never asks me for a package | 19:40 |
| bluekuja | asac, no orig, i meant | 19:40 |
| asac | it only checks the orig based on upstream version and Source name | 19:41 |
| bluekuja | asac, yes, bzr bd asks me ctorrent_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz | 19:41 |
| bluekuja | which is not right | 19:41 |
| bluekuja | asac, ctorrent (1.3.4-dnh3.3.2-1) is the right version | 19:41 |
| bluekuja | asac, and now it says bzr: ERROR: Unable to find the needed upstream tarball: ctorrent_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz. | 19:43 |
| BUGabundo | bun nuit | 19:43 |
| BUGabundo | hey asac fta bluekuja | 19:43 |
| bluekuja | hello | 19:43 |
| bluekuja | BUGabundo, how are you? | 19:44 |
| BUGabundo | fine fine | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo | waiting for PIZZAAAAA | 19:45 |
| bluekuja | lol | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo | Friday is always pizza day for me | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | I come a LUG and have pizza | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 19:46 |
| bluekuja | asac, in the end I have to add two orig files | 19:48 |
| bluekuja | to have it working | 19:48 |
| bluekuja | asac, then builds great and works great | 19:48 |
| asac | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gwibber-committers/gwibber/trunk/revision/347 | 19:53 |
| asac | fta: ^^ | 19:53 |
| asac | ;) | 19:53 |
| fta | asac, you're upstream now? :) | 19:54 |
| bluekuja | asac, do you have any idea or what can be? | 19:54 |
| bluekuja | asac, changelog revision is right | 19:54 |
| bluekuja | but bzr bd asks for another package | 19:54 |
| asac | fta: for some reason i had commit access yeah ;) | 19:54 |
| bluekuja | * orig | 19:54 |
| bluekuja | before buildin | 19:55 |
| asac | bluekuja: i am sure your changelog revision is wrong ;) | 19:55 |
| bluekuja | asac, can you branch them out and see? | 19:55 |
| asac | or your tarball revision is wrong ;) | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | asac: gwibber changes?!? | 19:55 |
| asac | no ... paste changelog | 19:55 |
| bluekuja | k | 19:55 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yeah. i fixed all segfaults ;) | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | ALL !?!? | 19:55 |
| asac | at least ;) | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | I'll bet this week EuroMilhoes! | 19:56 |
| asac | i would say 99$% of it ;) | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | on that !! ahaah | 19:56 |
| bluekuja | asac, http://paste.debian.net/41563/ | 19:56 |
| asac | yeah. version is ambigious | 19:57 |
| asac | ambiguous | 19:57 |
| asac | think about it | 19:57 |
| asac | there are two ways you could identify an upstream version | 19:57 |
| bluekuja | asac, that way won't work? | 19:58 |
| bluekuja | : / | 19:58 |
| bluekuja | I noticed that version is not really normal | 19:58 |
| asac | never use - in upstream versions | 19:59 |
| asac | well you can use it, but dont complain if high level tools trap into it ;) | 19:59 |
| jcastro | asac: you have ppa upload rights to gwibber too if you want to push new builds out | 19:59 |
| bluekuja | so it should be 1.3.4dnh3.3.2-1 | 20:00 |
| bluekuja | ? | 20:00 |
| asac | jcastro: nah. daily will catch this soon enough | 20:00 |
| asac | jcastro: and i will upload to karmic anyway | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | fta: I'll be waiting for you to kick the gwibber bot | 20:00 |
| * asac runs karmic to ensure that there is a good user experience ;) | 20:00 | |
| asac | jcastro: do i need special group membership for the PPA? | 20:00 |
| asac | (just curious) | 20:00 |
| fta | BUGabundo, done | 20:00 |
| jcastro | no, I don't think so | 20:00 |
| bluekuja | asac, should it be 1.3.4dnh3.3.2-1 then? | 20:00 |
| jcastro | anyone who can commit to trunk can push to the ppa | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | fta: nice! I'll upgrade after dinner | 20:00 |
| bluekuja | asac, and if yes, am I allowed to change that at this time? | 20:00 |
| asac | bluekuja: no... dont just scratch it ...replace it with some incremental deliminator | 20:01 |
| fta | BUGabundo, don't hold your breath on that, the builders are busy | 20:01 |
| bluekuja | asac, example? | 20:01 |
| asac | jcastro: yeah. thats what i thought | 20:01 |
| asac | jcastro: if you still see the crashes let me know | 20:01 |
| asac | jcastro: but i fixed a really nasty bug | 20:01 |
| asac | that will probably be really 99% of segfaults (not python crashes) | 20:01 |
| fta | 35/46/23 with 8/9/9 builders | 20:02 |
| asac | yeah that looks good | 20:02 |
| bluekuja | asac, example of what you mean? | 20:02 |
| asac | +. | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | fta: guess ill branch the code then | 20:03 |
| bluekuja | asac, 1.3.4-dnh3.3+2-1? | 20:03 |
| asac | think twice | 20:03 |
| bluekuja | asac, or 1.3.4.dnh3.3.2-1 | 20:03 |
| fta | BUGabundo, i just said it will take one hour or two | 20:03 |
| asac | 20:59 < asac> never use - in upstream versions | 20:03 |
| bluekuja | asac, yeah ok it's 1.3.4.dnh3.3.2-1 | 20:04 |
| bluekuja | then | 20:04 |
| asac | you upstream version is 1.3.4-dnh3.3.2 btw | 20:04 |
| asac | yes | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | fta: I know I can't hold 2h | 20:04 |
| asac | then the upstream version is 1.3.4.dnh3.3.2 | 20:04 |
| bluekuja | asac, can I change it at this time? | 20:04 |
| asac | but i would use a + | 20:04 |
| bluekuja | asac, I mean old entries got the - | 20:04 |
| asac | not a . | 20:04 |
| bluekuja | asac, is it a problem if I use a + now instead of -? | 20:05 |
| bluekuja | asac, old entries got all - | 20:05 |
| asac | no clue ... you need to use dpkg --compare-version to test that | 20:05 |
| asac | i really dont get your problem. i mean your version was 1.3.4-dnh3.3.2 | 20:05 |
| asac | so thats ugly in itself | 20:05 |
| asac | bzr bd thinks its 1.3.4? | 20:06 |
| bluekuja | asac, yes | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | OT: was anyone done an whois on microsoft.com ? ROFL | 20:06 |
| asac | then file a bug against bzr-builddeb | 20:06 |
| asac | and then move to + | 20:06 |
| bluekuja | asac, my problem was related to old entries | 20:06 |
| asac | check it with dpkg --compare-version | 20:06 |
| asac | s | 20:06 |
| bluekuja | asac, old entries had - | 20:06 |
| bluekuja | asac, can I now change the latest with +? | 20:06 |
| asac | 21:06 < asac> check it with dpkg --compare-version | 20:07 |
| asac | 21:06 < asac> s | 20:07 |
| bluekuja | ah ok | 20:07 |
| bluekuja | let me see | 20:08 |
| fta | bluekuja, asac: no offense but this is off-topic, could you please move to -motu? | 20:08 |
| bluekuja | asac, u were right | 20:08 |
| asac | fta: ack ;) | 20:08 |
| fta | thanks | 20:09 |
| bluekuja | fta, there are no mozilla topic discussion here yet | 20:09 |
| bluekuja | so what's the problem? | 20:09 |
| fta | so i won't blip every few seconds for hours | 20:09 |
| asac | he follows discussion here and looks | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | ahahahaahaahahha | 20:09 |
| bluekuja | lol | 20:09 |
| asac | its really better in -motu | 20:09 |
| asac | also others can help there | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | ok PIZZA time! back in 30 | 20:14 |
| fta | asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=16442 | 21:13 |
| asac | pfft | 21:15 |
| asac | thats ignorance ;) | 21:15 |
| asac | well. we shjould raise it on mailing list ,) | 21:23 |
| * asac just reenabled his google account | 21:23 | |
| BUGabundo | LOLOLL | 21:25 |
| fta | <estade> fta: I didn't make the decision | 21:28 |
| fta | <estade> fta: bringing it up on chromium dev is a more effective way to make policy changes than filing a bug is | 21:28 |
| fta | <leiz> fta: fyi, that's related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+bug/204567 | 21:28 |
| fta | <leiz> fta: IMO Ubuntu is being stupid, every other distro set their download dir to ~/Downloads | 21:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 204567 in hundredpapercuts "downloads should go to $HOME/Downloads : XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR should be set to "$HOME/Downloads"" [High,Confirmed] | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | humm those again? | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | what is this ? papercut work ? | 21:30 |
| fta | chromium work | 21:30 |
| fta | http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en&sa=N&cd=1&ct=rc#h0RrPvyPu-c/chrome/common/chrome_paths_linux.cc&q=GetUserDownloadsDirectory&exact_package=http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src&l=82 | 21:39 |
| fta | easy to revert | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | asac: may I kill you now??? | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | darn firefox segfaults ALL THE DARN TIME | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | got a very easy to reproduce trace | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | I have to start in safe mode and then with --sync for it to work | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | and that takes me 3 or 4 attemps | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | :(( | 21:53 |
| micahg | hi BUGabundo | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | hey micahg | 21:53 |
| micahg | did you try the new GTK libs? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | not sure | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | are they built yet? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | I just upgraded | 21:53 |
| micahg | looks like it | 21:54 |
| micahg | 2.17.3 | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. | 21:54 |
| BUGabundo | 0x00007ffff21dd8b0 in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | 21:54 |
| asac | BUGabundo: i think compiz is enouogh | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | I want it fixed! | 22:12 |
| asac | i dont know why i get so few people complaining | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | you are fixing gwibber crashs and leaving FF down :( | 22:12 |
| asac | hehe | 22:12 |
| asac | yeah | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | no one uses 3.6 daily | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | just the crazy me | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | and fta | 22:12 |
| asac | i think the problem is i have no idea whats really going on with this BadIdChoice | 22:12 |
| asac | BUGabundo: do you get it at all? | 22:12 |
| fta | firefox-3.6 990 0.09% 63 314 613 0 | 22:13 |
| fta | firefox-3.5 13211 1.14% 1774 2771 8653 13 | 22:13 |
| asac | BUGabundo: i used 3.6 all the time, but i now use 3.5 because i feel responsible on actually using what we want to stabilize | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | 63 users? | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | I understand asac | 22:13 |
| fta | firefox-3.0 676796 58.59% 82242 514251 80258 45 | 22:13 |
| micahg | fta: where do you get those numbers from? | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | popcon | 22:14 |
| asac | popcon | 22:14 |
| asac | !popcon | 22:14 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Popularity Contest project is an attempt to map the usage of Ubuntu packages. To participate, install the package "popularity-contest", and see http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasNussbaum/PopconDraft | 22:14 |
| asac | hehe | 22:14 |
| asac | bot is my friend today | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 22:14 |
| asac | i am not sure anyone really understands what those numbers mean ;) | 22:14 |
| asac | are those total submissions? does my system submit all the time? | 22:15 |
| micahg | yeah, bot is my friend too, I've gotten tired of explaining what shiretoko is | 22:15 |
| asac | do they age? get removed? | 22:15 |
| fta | firefox 1070719 92.69% 6838 450085 1300 612496 | 22:15 |
| fta | firefox-2 37292 3.23% 3805 33350 119 18 | 22:15 |
| asac | that means that 38% of the submissions come from users < hardy | 22:17 |
| asac | at least | 22:17 |
| micahg | asac: why? | 22:17 |
| asac | because firefox has a hard depend on firefox-3.0 since then | 22:17 |
| asac | before it was the main package | 22:18 |
| asac | eh its even ~28% | 22:18 |
| micahg | well, depends if the stats are aggregate or not | 22:19 |
| fta | thunderbird 290836 25.18% 24350 235560 30868 58 | 22:19 |
| fta | mozilla-thunderbird 167803 14.53% 214 48856 8 118725 | 22:19 |
| fta | thunderbird-3.0 799 0.07% 71 506 221 1 | 22:19 |
| fta | iceweasel 361 0.03% 17 340 4 0 | 22:20 |
| fta | icedove 74 0.01% 3 67 4 0 | 22:20 |
| fta | lol | 22:20 |
| asac | heh | 22:20 |
| asac | icedove is probably me and gnomefreak ;) | 22:20 |
| fta | chromium-browser 7179 0.62% 460 2939 3779 1 | 22:21 |
| fta | google-chrome-unstable 4694 0.41% 875 318 3493 8 | 22:21 |
| fta | cxchromium 3879 0.34% 253 3463 91 72 | 22:21 |
| fta | prism 26492 2.29% 1568 23643 1274 7 | 22:21 |
| fta | fennec 309 0.03% 26 231 52 0 | 22:21 |
| fta | gwibber 3688 0.32% 217 2645 825 1 | 22:22 |
| fta | songbird 22311 1.93% 535 20083 1518 175 | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | 8528 654728 154 843K 957.4M 238.9M 957.4M 238.9M 6% pidgin | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | 12940 374173 80 82K 800.0M 210.3M 800.0M 210.3M 5% firefox-3.6 | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | 13315 169283 0 2106K 639.3M 155.1M 639.3M 155.1M 4% gwibber | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | 8685 919681 42 2444K 578.7M 119.3M 578.7M 119.3M 3% gnome-do | 22:22 |
| fta | (but this is probably not my package) | 22:22 |
| asac | yeah. this shows how hard it is to get installs out of the archive | 22:22 |
| asac | i mean songbird is probably a better brand than prism ;) | 22:22 |
| asac | still less folks have submissions | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | fta: did it cross the red line yet? | 22:22 |
| fta | it's the upstream deb | 22:22 |
| asac | or isnt the upstream build called sonbird | 22:23 |
| asac | ? | 22:23 |
| fta | my guess is that the songbird figure is the upstream deb, not mine | 22:24 |
| fta | but it's hard to know, popcon has no notion of version, or origin | 22:25 |
| asac | fta: right i assumed that | 22:25 |
| asac | i just say that it shows pretty well that in-archive helps a lot to get installs | 22:26 |
| asac | e.g. prism > songbird | 22:26 |
| asac | even though songbird is probably a stronger brand | 22:26 |
| fta | yes | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | fta: file a bug ? | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | fta: did chrome cross the red line yet? | 22:26 |
| fta | BUGabundo, it's a "security feature" | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | ahhhhhh | 22:27 |
| fta | eheh | 22:27 |
| fta | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-ubuntu2.png | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | so you lost your predition? | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | chromium is still growing | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | while chrome is getting stabler | 22:29 |
| fta | yes | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | asac: may I kill you a second time? gwibber not starting after upgrades :(( | 22:35 |
| asac | BUGabundo: wfm | 22:35 |
| fta | debian 505352 | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 505352 in icedove "FTBFS with GCC 4.4: 'virtual nsIOThreadPool::~nsIOThreadPool()' is" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/505352 | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | Traceback (most recent call last): | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | File "/usr/bin/gwibber", line 55, in <module> | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | from gwibber.client import GwibberClient | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | ImportError: No module named gwibber.client | 22:36 |
| asac | ii gwibber 1.2.0~bzr347-0ubuntu1~dai | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 1.2.0~bzr347-0ubuntu1~daily1 | 22:36 |
| asac | BUGabundo: sounds like a bad package for you | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 22:36 |
| * BUGabundo points guns at fta | 22:36 | |
| fta | retry | 22:36 |
| asac | BUGabundo: maybe you are not running the real package gwibber command? | 22:36 |
| asac | or you tried while it was upgrading? | 22:36 |
| * BUGabundo reload reload | 22:36 | |
| * BUGabundo points guns at fta | 22:36 | |
| * fta blames python | 22:36 | |
| BUGabundo | asac: what *real* package? | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I only have one | 22:37 |
| asac | maybe you have installed two? ;) | 22:37 |
| asac | or a bzr checkout which you are calling directly ,) | 22:37 |
| asac | i dont know | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | File "/usr/bin/gwibber", line 55, in <module> | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I did not bzr checkout | 22:37 |
| asac | so does it work now? | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | no | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | it crashed and did not start again | 22:38 |
| asac | works like a charm here | 22:38 |
| asac | you are probably contaminated by some other bustage ;) | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | let me purge and try again | 22:38 |
| asac | "major python breakage on local system alert" | 22:38 |
| asac | :) | 22:38 |
| asac | fta: does the package work for you? | 22:39 |
| asac | i picked and dpkg -i it ;) | 22:39 |
| asac | but my system Need to get 753MB of archives. | 22:40 |
| asac | also a o3d-plugin update | 22:40 |
| asac | which i should probably remove due to lack of GPU horsepowers | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | The following partially installed packages will be configured: | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | libpam-gnome-keyring | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | damn breakage | 22:41 |
| fta | http://blog.digg.com/?p=878 | 22:41 |
| fta | 35 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. | 22:42 |
| fta | Need to get 355MB of archives. | 22:42 |
| bluekuja | asac, is your debian system ready? lol | 22:49 |
| asac | nope | 22:50 |
| bluekuja | damn : / | 22:51 |
| asac | soon enough. get your stuff ready ;) | 22:51 |
| asac | thought you wanted 4 updates ... only one i have seen so far as finished :) | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | yeah | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | I finished gnome-bt today | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | and got uploaded | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | now ctorrent is ready | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | and next package is cgmail | 22:51 |
| bluekuja | asac, I just need to know if I have to change the versioning as you told me or not | 22:52 |
| bluekuja | asac, depends from what you will tell me after review | 22:52 |
| asac | just do what you feel is appropriate | 22:53 |
| bluekuja | k | 22:53 |
| bluekuja | asac, you're a pro | 22:59 |
| bluekuja | asac, with + it works | 22:59 |
| bluekuja | asac, it doesnt ask for two orig | 22:59 |
| asac | ;) | 23:00 |
| bluekuja | updating my branch | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | do you guys think this is safe to isntall? | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | https://edge.launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | its the semi official ppa for VLC | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | but only has jaunty | 23:01 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: karmic has to come from debian | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | duh | 23:02 |
| micahg | AFAIK | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy vlc Installed: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu1 | 23:03 |
| micahg | he probably figured it wasn't worth his time to add karmic | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | this is karmic version | 23:03 |
| micahg | right now | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | I would like to have the final one eheh | 23:03 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: bug 396548 | 23:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396548 in vlc "Please update to the latest upstream release 1.0.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396548 | 23:04 |
| * BUGabundo darn LP timeouts | 23:06 | |
| fta | asac, http://codereview.chromium.org/155100/patch/62/1042 | 23:07 |
| asac | the patch doesnt include the xdg-settings utility code | 23:09 |
| fta | it does | 23:14 |
| fta | http://codereview.chromium.org/155100 | 23:15 |
| fta | $ ./xdg-settings get default-web-browser | 23:15 |
| fta | xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment | 23:15 |
| fta | so it doesn't know how to read my gnome preferred browser | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | Greasemonkey getFirebugConsole() error: | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | (new TypeError("chromeWin.Firebug is undefined", "file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.6a1pre/extensions/%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js", 392)) | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 23:19 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: is Firebug compatible with 3.6> | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | not sure | 23:20 |
| asac | unlikely | 23:20 |
| bluekuja | asac, let me finish all my packages stuff and then I can start with mozilla things u told me | 23:20 |
| asac | yeah. no hurry. next week there will be more days ;) | 23:21 |
| bluekuja | yeah | 23:21 |
| bluekuja | I'm on holiday now, so lot of free time | 23:21 |
| bluekuja | :) | 23:21 |
| asac | ok ... removed my search for "chrome" on twitter/identi.ca | 23:25 |
| asac | too much crap noise going on there ;) | 23:25 |
| asac | Ill stick with just Hamburg and Ubuntu ;) | 23:25 |
| asac | BUGabundo: so does your gwibber finally boot? :-P | 23:26 |
| fta | mine is ok | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | not sure | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | what changed ehehe! | 23:27 |
| fta | nothing | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | purging helped | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | its stating | 23:28 |
| asac | fta: builders are idle ... go for it ;) | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | aahah | 23:41 |
| asac | 0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0 | 23:41 |
| fta | what for? | 23:41 |
| BUGabundo | eheeh | 23:41 |
| asac | i dont know ;) | 23:42 |
| asac | invent something | 23:42 |
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