[00:00] <RenatoSilva> maxb: and it's hard to think of a password -based algorithm as "commercially" secure
[00:01] <RenatoSilva> maxb: anyway, I think your explanations are enough, I can do a research later about it...
[00:03] <RenatoSilva> maxb: thank you very much!
[01:48] <jacob> hmm.. is ftp on ppa.launchpad.net down? http works fine, but dput fails loudly: connection refused
[01:49] <Sarvatt> yeah same here
[01:53] <jacob> guessing it's been down for a while, https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/ shows zero ppa builds pending
[01:53]  * wgrant hopes cprov is still around.
[01:54] <wgrant> Or maybe mthaddon is?
[01:57] <elmo> fixed
[01:57] <wgrant> Or elmo. Thanks elmo.
[01:58] <elmo> jacob: (it was only down for ~30m, btw)
[01:58] <jacob> elmo: just my short-sighted speculation. ;) thanks!
[02:00] <Sarvatt> thanks for fixing it!
[02:10] <cprov> wgrant: I am, let me check.
[02:10] <cprov> oh, elmo already fixed it.
[12:45] <homy> I have I question about ppas: If I put a package for karmic in a ppa, will it automatically be rebuilt if dependencies change?
[12:52] <wgrant> homy: No.
[12:56] <lamothe> Hi all!  If I need a retrace, there's no way to get LP to do it against a PPA version of an application, is there?
[12:56] <wgrant> lamothe: LP doesn't do the retraces. A bot run on a non-Launhcpad machine in the datacentre does. You could equally run one on your own machine.
[12:57] <wgrant> You could use apport-retrace locally to do it.
[12:57] <wgrant> But PPAs don't produce debug symbols yet.
[12:57] <lamothe> wgrant: Thanks for the answer, the issue is that he's on 64 bit, me 32 bit.
[12:58] <lamothe> wgrant: Is there a way out of this pickle apart from asking the user to dl the source ... or me get a 64 bit Ubuntu.
[12:58] <wgrant> lamothe: Get him to use apport-retrace, perhaps.
[12:59] <lamothe> wgrant: He will need to source for that right ... there's no other way.  Just checking that I'm giving the end-user unnecessary work.
[13:01] <wgrant> lamothe: apport-retrace does not use the source - just debug symbols. You will get limited information without the source or debug symbols, however.
[13:02] <lamothe> wgrant: Thanks again, I'll see what I can do.
[13:24] <homy> I'm puzzled by the copy function in ppas. Could you name a possible use-case just for me to grasp this function better?
[13:27] <LarstiQ> homy: first uploading to a beta ppa and then copying to the release one when satisified
[13:27] <LarstiQ> homy: which is exactly what we do with bzr-beta-ppa
[13:28] <wgrant> Back- and forward-porting are what I normally use it for.
[13:28] <wgrant> As well as copying between PPAs as required.
[13:28] <homy> LarstiQ: thanks.
[13:28] <homy> wgrant: do you mean copying from intrepid to jaunty?
[13:28] <wgrant> homy: Basically.
[13:29] <homy> wgrant: if I try that, it says that same version already has published binaries in the destination archive?
[13:30] <wgrant> homy: The message means precisely what it says.
[13:30] <wgrant> You must copy the binaries too.
[13:31] <homy> wgrant: thanks.
[15:42] <MiserySalin> is it possible for a "project driver" to upload .pot files?
[17:19] <MontelEdwards> how do you delete a project?
[17:22] <andrea-bs> MontelEdwards, you have to ask a question to an administrator on https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[23:51] <kklimonda> hey, you know that edge lp certificate has just expired ? (YMMV based on where do you live ;) )
[23:52] <yofel> kklimonda: you beat be for a minute here :P