[00:12] <Flannel> Anyone in here have experience dealing with printed stuff?  We're trying to get a banner printed, and are worried about colors turning out wildly different than on screen, wondered how we might go about minimizing that risk
[00:16] <Flannel> Or, if anyone wants to give suggestions (only two background colors!) I'd be happy to get input, that way I can blam^H^H^H^Hthank you later.  We're just a little short on time making our final decision (45 minutes!)
[00:29] <knome> Flannel, do a test print? ;)
[00:29] <knome> Flannel, are you printing it locally or sending it to some print shop?
[00:30] <Flannel> My printer isn't the best with colors, but yeah, it looks like a mixture of my two monitors
[00:30] <knome> okay. maybe make a sample image with all the colors you are using *a lot*, do test prints and adjust the colors as needed
[00:30] <knome> then print a small copy of the complete banner to see if all the colors are okay
[00:31] <Flannel> We've got a guy whos at a school where they have a big printer, so he's printing through that.  He's going to try and get a proof before the real thing, and then give a yay or nay
[00:31] <knome> okay.
[00:31] <knome> if you were sending it to a print shop, they possibly could make sure the colors were right if you gave them some pantone color numbers.
[00:32] <knome> but it's of course differenet if someone not-so-experienced is printing it
[00:33] <knome> the best way really is to use time to print some test/sample versions.
[00:33] <Flannel> Well, we're not really trying to match anything in particular, it's just two tannish background colors, we just don't want them turning out really red or really yellow
[00:33] <knome> :)
[00:33] <knome> yeah.
[00:33] <Flannel> but yeah, know what you're saying, agree, just... don't have that luxury I don't think.
[00:33] <knome> i see.
[00:33] <knome> hehe
[03:28]  * tutatux vou cortar os pulsos
[08:45] <thorwil> kwwii: got my proposal email?
[10:17] <SiDi> kwwii: can you please mail me your public key for your PPA ?
[10:17] <SiDi> cant acceed it on LP cause of my firewall, and my usual keyserver on port 443 is dead :/
[10:32] <kwwii> thorwil: yes, I am discussing it with ivanka and otto from the design team
[10:32] <kwwii> SiDi: erm, no idea which key that would be
[10:32] <thorwil> kwwii: cool
[10:32] <kwwii> I assume my key
[10:32] <kwwii> 1024D/BD058F7A
[10:33] <kwwii> unfortunately, the team members on my own team are less responsive than the legal team
[10:34] <kwwii> which makes no sense
[10:34] <thorwil> would a butt-kick illustration help? :>
[10:35] <SiDi> kwwii: well yeh this one
[10:35] <thorwil> this blows my mind: http://flyingcats.us/CatBirds_Makoto_Nakamura.gif
[10:35] <SiDi> https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive/ppa kwwii this one actually sorry
[10:35] <SiDi>  	  1024R/EDCA87CA
[10:46] <kwwii> ahhh, that is created by launchpad, not by me
[10:47] <SiDi> can you click on the link and pastebin the key itself please ? :)
[10:47] <SiDi> its on port 17737 or somethinglike that, cant do it myself
[10:48] <kwwii> 0x17edd5b5af17fc35a333bd79b4c340a1edca87ca
[10:48] <kwwii> mI0ESXb/pgEEAMeapL9svuP2aq0FR6W9n777o15Ug28ESCSTe35L7uoiAbVSS2jPHB3B1s+B
[10:48] <kwwii> YqovzKfjVsiLWlidtqQQcci17+CFeLmakjFRKiw8DfoTt7pZYgP9q1L85M1jexyHltu5TBlg
[10:48] <kwwii> ZPze0TtbZZKxtFstU3fe10bz9ein1OfF/6ATH/89ABEBAAG0H0xhdW5jaHBhZCBQUEEgZm9y
[10:48] <kwwii> IEtlbm5ldGggV2ltZXKItgQTAQIAIAUCSXb/pgIbAwYLCQgHAwIEFQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheA
[10:48] <kwwii> AAoJELTDQKHtyofK/wYD/Asbp/OJDbqXICBJ0hnKF4ei9O7+hG98BszJ4SHQAiGii0eYX+NH
[10:48] <kwwii> l4EiKunPBfdJn9O6Siyk8HEJkCVPLvSFRdYU+GIvoxzXQumCEHyFUgZTmXpiJSXiFQhXS+dj
[10:48] <kwwii> GslPaX87h4E7ooFtd+zkoEfRLTNvqhgzwats1TsI+zTj6F1I
[10:48] <kwwii> =i0cF
[10:49] <kwwii> oops
[10:51] <knome> "oops" exactly
[11:01] <SiDi> thanks kwwii
[11:48]  * kwwii heads out for a saturday with the family...bye
[11:49] <SiDi> bb
[13:02] <ckontros> macvr: So the 48px PNGs need to be in scalable/ ? The won't work in 48x48?
[13:03] <macvr> ckontros: yup... when the user changes the font size , the size of the notify-osd changes , at that time the scalable icons are needed
[13:04] <macvr> you can have simlinks from the 48px in the scalable/
[13:06] <ckontros> macvr: That's what we'll do. I have to talk to kwwii to see if a better solution can be found.
[13:07] <macvr> kwwii: ping
[13:07] <ckontros> Because PNGs in scalable/ just drive my OCD insane.
[13:09] <ckontros> And, it's a bug if their path is hard-coded like that.
[13:10] <macvr> ;p
[13:10] <macvr> ckontros: any size larger, than 48px will *not* display well in the notify-osd , because the bug #393797
[13:10] <ckontros> "Fix committed" So maybe we should get the other sizes in there.
[13:11] <ckontros> Will be funny for anything other that Karmic but that's my target.
[13:11] <macvr> ckontros: the commit isnt good either , the best rescale algorithm deosnt do any justice tot he icons/images
[13:12] <macvr> they just end up blurry/loose color...
[13:13] <ckontros> macvr: I *think* I'd rather do things correctly in the set and let the notify-osd guys work things out. I'm not usually happy with work-arounds.
[13:13] <macvr> its nore of the proper algorithm still doesnt exist in Ubuntu
[13:13] <macvr> more^
[13:14] <macvr> its not the notify-osd fault , its just the os dosen have good rescale algorithms'
[13:14] <ckontros> Still, not our bug. And I doubt is an OS thing. Just a lib thing most likely.
[13:15] <macvr> nope , not our bug... i didnt think so either but mpt said it was more of the OS
[13:16] <macvr> ckontros: i just noticed something... the 22px , how are they made?
[13:17] <ckontros> *Everything* is rendered with Inkscape via a script in trunk.
[13:17] <macvr> they 22px just seems to cut 1px around the 24px , this just cut the nm-icon in the 22px, i wan to edit it, shall i send the edit in a couple of hrs?
[13:18] <macvr> ckontros: ^
[13:19] <ckontros> macvr: Give me a couple of mins. I'll clean up the branches and approve your membership on the condition that you upload no new icons.
[13:19] <ckontros> Ok?
[13:19] <macvr> ckontros: i wont dare... ;p
[13:20] <ckontros> macvr: You've used BZR correct?
[13:20] <macvr> i'v just used it to download the icon set
[13:20] <ckontros> Oh. So no actual uploading?
[13:21] <ckontros> Hmm... Maybe it will be best to just send me the revision.
[13:21] <macvr> ckontros: NO... i dont have a bzr account
[13:21] <ckontros> You just need a LP account and to be on the team.
[13:22] <macvr> i have the lp ;p , but no bzr , so i dont think i can tinker the icon trunk
[13:22] <ckontros> There's no "BZR" account.
[13:22] <ckontros> You just need top be added to the team.
[13:23] <ckontros> *to be
[13:23] <macvr> ckontros: oh... ok.. dont worry , i wont any icons , i'm not that crazy
[13:24] <macvr> wont add^
[13:25] <ckontros> macvr: So in trunk, all that needed fixing is emblem-important correct?
[13:26] <ckontros> (and removing the blank icons)
[13:26] <macvr> i found that error, let me check for anything else
[13:27] <ckontros> I fixed the spelling in the layer name.
[13:27] <macvr> which icon?
[13:27] <ckontros> emblem-important
[13:33] <macvr> i dont see anything else that needs fixing
[13:35] <ckontros> nm. I was mistaken. In any case, it's in the set now and blank items removed. Uploading now.
[13:41] <ckontros> macvr: Ok. Both branches should be in sync and you are approved. I will be a little scarce today but might be able to attend to minor things later but most likely tomorrow night.
[13:42] <ckontros> bbl
[13:42] <macvr> ckontros: just a min...
[13:42] <ckontros> I must run. Quickly
[13:42] <macvr> the 22px fixes , when do you want it?
[13:42] <ckontros> ASAP.
[13:43] <macvr> ckontros: just asked since you said you want be avail today...
[13:43] <ckontros> Honestly, I don't understand the issue and don't have the time now. I gotta jet. bbl
[13:43] <macvr> ok bye
[15:35] <psyke83> kwwii: hey. What do you think about reducing the gtkbutton size for the theme? It makes sense, especially since lots of users use netbooks nowadays. Take a look at the before/after: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7597314&postcount=37
[15:46] <psyke83> (never mind, will write the suggestion on the list so you can reply to it at your leisure ;))