[01:16]  * BUGabundo off to bed
[03:45] <rob2> Hello. I just triaged bug #394430. However I don't seem to have write access to the Importance property. Is this normal? The wiki indicates that Importance should be set when the bug is confirmed.
[03:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 394430 in x11-apps "xclock -twentyfour option ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394430
[04:01] <nellery> rob2: you need to be in bugcontrol to set importance
[04:01] <nellery> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[04:52] <rob2> Thanks nellery, I did end up reading that and understand the requirements for joining that group.
[20:02] <BUGabundo> boas tardes
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Good evening, BUGabundo
[20:06] <BUGabundo> hey charl
[20:06] <BUGabundo> *
[20:06] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca
[20:06] <BUGabundo> ahh took me a while :)
[20:07] <charlie-tca> We all get there  ;-)
[20:10] <BUGabundo> its hard to balance a 13" laptop in two nees :)
[20:17] <charlie-tca> Even harder to only use 1, though ;-)
[20:18] <BUGabundo> not if you have square nees eheh
[20:19] <charlie-tca> Good point
[21:11] <kamusin> How can I mark some report that has reported an error for a package that was installed manually and is not in main repository (package is skype)
[21:12] <charlie-tca> Report it directly to the application developers
[21:12] <charlie-tca> !info skype
[21:12] <ubot4> charlie-tca: Package skype does not exist in jaunty
[21:13] <kamusin> exists if you have medibuntu sources
[21:13] <kamusin> but is not the case
[21:14] <BUGabundo> if the package was instaled from medibuntu repos
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Yes, you should report the bugs as indicated:
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Please report any bug to our bug tracker instead:
[21:14] <charlie-tca>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bugs
[21:14] <kamusin> because this user download from website
[21:14] <BUGabundo> then it's a bug for the medibuntu LP BTS accouny
[21:14] <BUGabundo> not ubuntu one
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Tells me that in Synaptic Package Manager
[21:14] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: yeas
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Bugs in launchpad will be invalid
[21:15] <BUGabundo> no need to invalidate... just MOVE it
[21:15] <BUGabundo> that makes it send less noise to ubuntu subscrivers
[21:15] <BUGabundo> kamusin: what website? skype oficial? then its not *our* bug
[21:15] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah, that too
[21:16] <kamusin> was download from skype website
[21:16]  * charlie-tca slaps head; got to remember to save work instead of creating noise
[21:16] <BUGabundo> kamusin: mark it as invalid and explain it to the user
[21:17] <kamusin> right
[21:38] <Zylstra555> Hello, I would like to report a bug, and quite frankly I am just too lazy to register to post it somewhere...
[21:39] <Zylstra555> In the Ubuntu 9.04 Add/Remove Application, the package: "Filezilla" can not be added, it claims that the program is incompatible with the system (i386). I manually downloaded and ran it, and it works fine.
[21:41] <BUGabundo> Zylstra555: please visit #ubuntu channel, and try to find another user having the same prob, and that want to report it
[21:41] <BUGabundo> thanks
[21:42] <BUGabundo> Zylstra555: plus having and Launchpad account my be useful for you next time, to allow you to report more bugs, or keep track of already submitted bugs
[21:42] <BUGabundo> and it also entitles you to a Ubuntu One cloud account ;)
[21:43] <cabrey> Zylstra555, I get the same thing
[21:43] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: Personally, I'd rather just not have another account somewhere else... Why did Ubuntu switch to Launchpad? (I've never used the old bug system, which I think was the forum, right? Or Launchpad)
[21:43] <BUGabundo> Zylstra555: launchpad has been here since I joined
[21:44] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: Hmm... I still don't recall.
[21:44] <BUGabundo> its the de facto plaform for us to track the project
[21:45] <Zylstra555> I'm surprised that FileZilla isnt working, and probably hasnt been in a long time.
[21:45] <cabrey> Zylstra555, I had it installed before
[21:45] <cabrey> on 9.04
[21:45] <Zylstra555> It is one of the best FTP clients out there, I tried nearly every single other FTP client in the Ubuntu Repositories... none of them even compared.
[21:46] <Zylstra555> cabrey: I downloaded the executable and just ran it from there, how distressing! (I rely on Synaptics far too much)
[21:46] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: Well, if you think its worthwhile getting an account on Launchpad, I shall do so. I really want to see this fixed.
[21:46] <cabrey> it's probably a packaging error
[21:46] <BUGabundo> filezilla works for me, in karmic
[21:47] <cabrey> aptitude download filezilla d/l's the actual deb
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I remember having some trouble with filezilla during jaunty devel cycle. and then it got fixed
[21:49] <Zylstra555> I wonder, will Linux be around for the next 100 years?
[21:49] <cabrey> nothing wrong with the control file as far i see
[21:49] <BUGabundo> hope so
[21:50] <Zylstra555> ...how do I actually report the bug in Launchpad?
[21:50] <cabrey> ok it's definitely a synaptic issue
[21:50] <cabrey> i can install the deb manually via gdebi/dpkg
[21:51] <cabrey> and it starts up fine...
[21:52] <Zylstra555> cabrey: It works fine as well.
[21:52] <cabrey> i'm talking about the deb coming down from the ubuntu repos
[21:52] <BUGabundo> Zylstra555: best way: $ ubuntu-bug filezilla
[21:52] <Zylstra555> JFTP, "FTP", KFTP, Kasablaca, all of those clients... none of them were able to successfully transfer 54GB of data. Granted, FIleZilla hasnt finished yet, but its off to a good start.
[21:52] <cabrey> it's not a filezilla bug tho
[21:53] <cabrey> i would say file it under synaptic
[21:53] <BUGabundo> cabrey: Zylstra555 please try : $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install filezilla and pastebin any errors
[21:53] <BUGabundo> cabrey: synaptic is just an APT GUI
[21:54] <cabrey> yea i know
[21:54] <BUGabundo> the bug is most prob on apt or pdkg
[21:54] <BUGabundo> but MVO is not here
[21:54] <cabrey> not dpkg, because i just used dpkg
[21:54] <BUGabundo> try aptitude
[21:54] <BUGabundo> purge it, clearn your cache, and try again
[21:55] <cabrey> gotta be synaptic, just tried aptitude
[21:56] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: It seems to be working under Aptitude
[21:56] <BUGabundo> did you clean your cache?
[21:56] <cabrey> & purged
[21:57] <cabrey> Zylstra555, if you post the lp bug url here I'll try to confirm it (if I can)
[21:58] <BUGabundo> Zylstra555: best way to report a bug: $ ubuntu-bug filezilla
[21:59] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: Thats what I did :)
[22:00] <BUGabundo> great
[22:03]  * BUGabundo ok I'm getting my self an ice cream. back in a few minutes
[22:05] <Zylstra555> BUGabundo: Cabrey:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filezilla/+bug/398267
[22:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 398267 in filezilla "FileZilla cano not be added by Add/Remove Applications program" [Undecided,New]
[22:06] <Zylstra555> * (Space Typo) BUGabundo: Cabrey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filezilla/+bug/398267
[22:07] <BUGabundo> typo
[22:07] <BUGabundo> cano not
[22:07] <Zylstra555> I can confirm it myself, it appears
[22:08] <cabrey> i just did :)
[22:08] <charlie-tca> Zylstra555: Please don't confirm your own bugs, wait for someone else to
[22:08] <BUGabundo> yep. don't do it!
[22:09] <cabrey> i did
[22:09] <cabrey> i'm going to upload a screenshot of the dialog
[22:09] <Zylstra555> charlie-tca: I know, I was just saying... (I just thought it was kind of an odd thing, allowing someone to confirm their own bugs..)
[22:09] <cabrey> Zylstra555, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28919861/screenshot1.png
[22:10] <cabrey> is that what you're getting?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> It is allowed, but will only create extra messages since someone else will then unconfirm it and someone else will have to confirm it
[22:11] <charlie-tca> Launchpad doesn't have brains to say you reported this, and you should not confirm it. Devs are allowed to confirm some kinds of bugs when they report them.
[22:11] <cabrey> launchpad is self aware
[22:12] <charlie-tca> It does get smarter every day ;-)
[22:12] <cabrey> that can only lead to one thing.
[22:12] <cabrey> free pie.
[22:22] <Zylstra555> well, Ubuntu is being a pain to me right now... a file transfer crashed from Gnome, or Nautalis, or whatever, and now it won't do any other file transfers until it thinks it has transfered the first files... what a paradox.
[23:39] <kklimonda> from LP: "The certificate expired on 07/12/2009 12:37 AM."  ;)
[23:48] <charlie-tca> kklimonda: for launchpad?
[23:48] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: check your PC clock
[23:48] <BUGabundo> last time someone said that HERE he had a bad CMOS date
[23:48] <charlie-tca> I don't get that notice
[23:48]  * charlie-tca remembers that now
[23:49] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: well, everything else is fine :)
[23:49] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: $ date
[23:49] <charlie-tca> kklimonda: is it already the 12th there?
[23:49] <kklimonda> yeah
[23:49] <kklimonda> it's for edge LP
[23:50] <kklimonda> and from what I see e.l.n cert has just expired
[23:50] <kklimonda> the one from stable LP is valid for another year
[23:51] <charlie-tca> Might tell them on #launchpad
[23:51] <BUGabundo> edge here says 2010
[23:51] <kklimonda> good idea
[23:51] <kklimonda> hmm..
[23:51] <Nafallo> except #launchpad isn't the ones handling the certs...
[23:51] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: interesting
[23:52] <BUGabundo> its *.launchpad.net
[23:52] <BUGabundo> Nafallo: so who is?
[23:52] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I got a *.edge.launchpad.net
[23:52] <Nafallo> BUGabundo: the sysadmins
[23:52] <BUGabundo> no one works on sundays at canonical :)
[23:52] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: interesting
[23:52] <BUGabundo> :)
[23:53] <BUGabundo> Nafallo: do you know one we can poke to check on this ?
[23:54] <Nafallo> BUGabundo: nope, but it's flagged in nagios for when they start on Monday :-)
[23:54] <kklimonda> :)
[23:54] <kklimonda> damn, we are gonna get dozens of bug reports till then ;)
[23:55] <BUGabundo> Nafallo: that will be a bit late :)