[02:52] <xMrKrnlx> Does anyone know if karmic will use the noveau driver, and if it will have KMS support?
[02:55] <jjohansen> xMrKrnlx: noveau will be supported, and I believe even be the default driver for nvidia
[02:56] <xMrKrnlx> jjohansen: cool, do you think KMS will be supported on all possible cards - like Fedora 11?
[02:56] <jjohansen> xMrKrnlx: as for KMS, I know there is working on that but I don't know what it state is, or whether it will make karmic
[02:56] <xMrKrnlx> jjohansen: thanks!
[03:01] <sn9> nouveau did not work for me when i tried it a couple of months ago; maybe i should try it again
[03:03] <xMrKrnlx> sn9: i heard its still in pretty hefty development - i'll probably wait for karmic and see how it works then
[03:28] <Sarvatt> if you want to play with nouveau KMS on karmic -- https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/nouveau
[03:29] <Sarvatt> dont need the kernel there, just nouveau-kernel-source and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[03:29] <Sarvatt> well and the libdrm
[05:21] <bullgard4> [Jaunty] I have got a loadable kernel module 'snd'. Is the associated source code file /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.28/sound/oss/msnd.c?
[05:24] <bullgard4> Its object code file is /lib/module/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko
[05:30] <sn9> no
[05:31] <sn9> sound/core/ comes from sound/core/, not sound/oss/
[06:44] <daidoji> is this ubuntu specific or can you help with linux kernel questions?
[14:57] <Keybuk> I know it's the weekend, but anyone around today?
[15:00] <Laney> Hey, is there any reason why I can't modprobe dm_snapshot on karmic?
[15:01] <Keybuk> Laney: it's probably built in
[15:01] <Laney> could be, that would be a change though
[15:01]  * Laney checks
[15:01] <Keybuk> CONFIG_DM_SNAPSHOT=y
[15:01] <Keybuk> looks like it was built-in on jaunty too
[15:02] <Laney> actually, it might have been that long since I did mk-sbuild-lv
[15:03] <Keybuk> there's a proposed fix upstream to record the built-in modules so that modprobe will exit 0
[15:04] <Laney> sounds reasonable
[15:56] <Keybuk> I'm pretty sure I've found a regression in inotify() in karmic
[16:07] <mjg59> Keybuk: It's been effectively rewritten, so that's not entirely surprising
[16:08] <Keybuk> mjg59: indeed
[16:08] <Keybuk> just bisecting at the moment to make sure it is fanotify
[16:09] <Keybuk> the regression being that it's just not returning all deletes ;)
[16:12] <Keybuk> mjg59: are you running 31-rc ? if so, could you try my test case as well to check it's not just the ubuntu tree
[16:14] <mjg59> Not right now - there's a suspend regression I need to track down first
[16:15] <Keybuk> np
[16:15] <Keybuk> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/inotify_test.c if you do get a chance, if not, no worries
[16:16] <Keybuk> it should just exit if everything's ok - I see it get stuck expecting events that never come
[22:20] <billybigrigger> hey all
[22:20] <billybigrigger> im trying to compile a daily kernel, and im getting this error when i run sudo fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-versio=-dz1 kernel_image kernel_headers
[22:21] <billybigrigger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/215764/
[22:21] <billybigrigger> this is my first time trying to compile my own kernel, what am i doing wrong?
[22:22] <billybigrigger> i have downloaded and installed the headers and source from the kernel mainline daily 7-11
[22:30] <Sarvatt> i think it needs a config change to build right now billybigrigger, theres no debs
[22:30] <billybigrigger> never mind, just need a patch :P
[22:30] <billybigrigger> http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/35137/
[22:30] <billybigrigger> building myself
[22:30] <Sarvatt> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=373c0a7ed3ea3b34efedb7c83ffb521adff7c894
[22:31] <Sarvatt> start from linus's source, git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
[22:31] <billybigrigger> whoa, now im heading into really unknown waters haha
[22:31] <Sarvatt> i use CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -append-to-version=-sarvatt kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source >buildlog.txt 2>&1
[22:32] <billybigrigger> should i let this one keep going?
[22:32] <billybigrigger> it seems to be working fine for now
[22:32] <Sarvatt> its already fixed upstream, might as well grab the latest source 
[22:32] <billybigrigger> so source from mainline is no good?
[22:32] <Sarvatt> you need to make-kpkg clean between errors unless you're using kernel-package 12.x btw
[22:32] <billybigrigger> oh
[22:32] <billybigrigger> i didn't do that between errors
[22:33] <billybigrigger> but it's gotten past the error
[22:33] <billybigrigger> after i patched mmcontrol.c
[22:35] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, are you using daily kernel?
[22:36] <Sarvatt> nope i build my own
[22:36] <billybigrigger> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
[22:37] <billybigrigger> from that ^^
[22:37] <billybigrigger> ?
[22:37] <Sarvatt> yeah
[22:37] <billybigrigger> hmm
[22:37] <billybigrigger> and still no working cam eh?
[22:37] <Sarvatt> then cp /boot/config.whatever .config while in the linux-2.6 directory
[22:37] <Sarvatt> i havent built one since just before rc2
[22:37] <billybigrigger> k i stopped that other kernel compile
[22:37] <billybigrigger> from /usr/src i run that git clone line?
[22:38] <Sarvatt> clone it, copy your config to .config then make oldconfig, then make-kpkg clean, then CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -append-to-version=-dz1 kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source
[22:38] <Sarvatt> nah do it somewhere in your home directory
[22:38] <billybigrigger> haha, i was just about to type all that out
[22:39] <billybigrigger> high five Sarvatt
[22:39] <billybigrigger> my first kernel compilation!!! :)
[22:39] <Sarvatt> if you get an error, make menuconfig and disable whatever you need to then make-kpkg clean and try again
[22:39] <billybigrigger> k
[22:40] <Sarvatt> probably want to change CONCURRENCY_LEVEL though
[22:40] <billybigrigger> and i should copy my config from 31-2 to my ~ ? or ~/linux-2.6/.git?
[22:40] <billybigrigger> it will read config from .git right?
[22:40] <Sarvatt> cd linux-2.6 && cp /boot/config-2.6.31-2-generic .config
[22:41] <billybigrigger> im glad kernel.org is fast :P  1998 KiB/s
[22:41] <Sarvatt> cd linux-2.6 && cp /boot/config-2.6.31-2-generic .config && make oldconfig && make-kpkg clean && CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -append-to-version=-dz1 kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source
[22:41] <Sarvatt> would work
[22:41] <billybigrigger> 2373 KiB/s
[22:41] <billybigrigger> :)
[22:41] <Sarvatt> just take the defaults if theres new stuff during the make oldconfig
[22:43] <billybigrigger> hmm...git only utilizes 1 core eh?
[22:43] <billybigrigger> :(
[22:46] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, option m for defaults right?
[22:46] <Sarvatt> just hit enter
[22:46] <billybigrigger> OSD object-as-blkdev support (BLK_DEV_OSD) [N/m/?] (NEW)
[22:46] <billybigrigger> oh ok
[22:46] <Sarvatt> default is N in that one
[22:46] <billybigrigger> ya, so isn't that NEW?
[22:46] <Sarvatt> the one in caps, just hitting enter picks the first thing
[22:47] <billybigrigger> CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -append-to-version=-billybigrigger kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source
[22:47] <billybigrigger> we're off and running :P
[22:48] <billybigrigger> now any app crashes i won't be able to report to LP will i?
[22:49] <billybigrigger> ahh nice to see both cores maxed :)
[22:49]  * billybigrigger goes to brew a cup of tea
[22:52] <Sarvatt> just make-kpkg clean afterwards and later you can just git pull from the linux-2.6 directory and do it over again to update it
[22:53] <billybigrigger> git pull instead of using git clone?
[22:53] <billybigrigger> then it just grabs anything thats changed?
[22:53] <Sarvatt> yep it'll just grab the new changes
[22:53] <billybigrigger> nice
[22:53] <billybigrigger> how long does it take you to compile Sarvatt ?
[22:54] <Sarvatt> hmm, ubuntu stock configuration is like a little more than an hour that way
[22:54] <billybigrigger> what kinda cpu?
[22:55] <Sarvatt> i do it on a remote server, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
[22:55] <billybigrigger> oooh
[22:56] <billybigrigger> x2 7750 here, oc'd to 3.0ghz
[22:56] <billybigrigger> i shouldn't see much of a difference then
[22:56] <Sarvatt> yeah you should, thats a good deal faster
[22:56] <billybigrigger> whats the clock speed of your 4200?
[22:56] <Sarvatt> this thing is 2.2ghz plus its virtualized and shared with other people
[22:56] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[22:57] <billybigrigger> i had a 5000+ that was 2.4 i think
[22:57] <billybigrigger> you have heat issues with that cpu at all?
[22:57] <billybigrigger> i have mine still
[22:57] <Sarvatt> its a VPS i use as a web server, i dont have any kind of access to the machine where i could know that :D
[22:58] <billybigrigger> bought this kuma instead, although that brisbane chip oc'd like a bastard, i think i had it from 2.4ghz to 3.1ghz stable, with decent temps
[22:58] <billybigrigger> haha
[22:59] <Sarvatt> i'm about to buy a 7850 for my htpc, just picking out a mobo right now
[22:59] <billybigrigger> i have an am2 5000+ if you want with 2gb ddr2 800
[22:59] <billybigrigger> spare
[22:59] <billybigrigger> interested? :)
[23:00] <billybigrigger> i actually need a cheap mobo&case and i'd i have another box altogether
[23:00] <Sarvatt> darn, you're making me want to compile a new kernel but its been 7 days since rc2 and i'm sure he'll release rc3 hours after i do it like last time :D
[23:00] <billybigrigger> haha
[23:01] <billybigrigger> usually about a week between rc's eh?
[23:29] <billybigrigger> buidling package now
[23:29] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, you have a timestamp on when i said i started?
 CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -append-to-version=-billybigrigger kernel_image kernel_headers kernel_source
 we're off and running :P
[23:41] <billybigrigger> i think something stalled
[23:41] <billybigrigger> /home/billybigrigger/linux-2.6/debian/linux-source-2.6.31-rc2-billybigrigger/usr/share/doc/linux-source-2.6.31-rc2-billybigrigger/Buildinfo
[23:41] <billybigrigger> tar cf - $(echo * | sed -e 's/ debian//g' -e 's/\.deb//g' ) |         \
[23:41] <billybigrigger> 	(cd /home/billybigrigger/linux-2.6/debian/linux-source-2.6.31-rc2-billybigrigger/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31-rc2-billybigrigger; umask 000; tar xspf -)
[23:41] <billybigrigger> oops, thought that was 1 line
[23:41] <billybigrigger> or is it just tar'ing the image?