[00:00] it says expires on 05/09/2010 here [00:01] fta: and does a certificate you got is issued for *.launchpad.net or *.edge.launchpad.net ? [00:01] *.launchpad.net, but i'm on edge [00:02] oh, ok. i see, all my other pages are untrusted now [00:03] 07/12/2009 [00:03] At least it's not the main one this time... [00:05] kklimonda: (it will have expired everywhere - certificate expiry times are, like any good timestamp, in UTC) [00:06] the https://launchpad.net certificate says it's going to expire on 25 Jul 2009, the *.launchpad.net one on 09 May 2010, and the *.edge.launchpad.net one today... [00:07] wgrant: isn't it still yesterday in UTC timezone? ;) [00:08] (I love those time zone problems that internet brings..) [00:08] I'm working on it === elmo changed the topic of #launchpad to: edge certificate broken, being fixed | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [00:09] Thanks elmo. [00:09] * tumbleweed is sure he mentioned that this was about to expire, about a week ago [00:09] tumbleweed: Yep, I hoped somebody would notice that... [00:09] elmo: After that, fancy fixing planet.ubuntu.com? :) [00:10] if you're already at it check the one for https://launchpad.net - it tells me it's going to expire in 2 weeks ^^ === elmo changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [00:48] (fixed a while ago, was beating some sense into verification by non-browsers) [00:53] Is edge going to update at some point? [00:53] It hasn't in a couple of days. [00:54] (which makes running lots of scripts in possible, as the last update broke retrieval of most SPPHs) [00:54] * wgrant fails again. [00:54] I cannot think this morning. [00:56] wgrant: I think it's deliberately disabled, but I don't honestly know why [00:58] elmo: OK, thanks. [00:58] Daviey: I can see it's broken, but the fix doesn't look like 1am material; can you file an RT? (I couldn't see one at first glance, if there is, tell me the number, and I'll have a look tomorrow or have someone else look) [02:59] in launchpad, i cannot find an easy way to find a bug that i reported. [03:00] I would think that a filter for Bugs Reported By Me would be very helpful, of is there another method? [03:01] slestak: If you click on your name (in the top right), then the bugs tab, there is a filter on the right to find bugs reported by you. [03:01] You can also do an advanced search in a project for bugs reported by you. [03:01] And there is a bug reported asking for a simple button to do the latter. [03:02] i did click on my name, expecting to see the filter, let me look again [03:02] yep, go to users lp page, then bugs, all of them are there [03:03] What do you mean? [03:04] wgrant: i was agreeing that it is where you said it was. [03:04] I didn't click on Bugs first. [03:04] tyvm [03:13] Question/feature request ... Just wondering if it's possible to change the status of bugs that are "NEW" to "incomplete" after 7 days of no response ??? [03:15] VK7HSE: No. That doesn't make sense. [03:15] Why would you want to do that? [03:16] well say that a bug is submitted, then the person never replies back ... then unless you manually change the status, it will remain in limbo... [03:16] When asking for information, you are meant to change the status to Incomplete. [03:17] That's what the status means - the bug needs more information. [03:17] ok but I have some bugs that I had submitted way bay and who ever the maintainer is they have never done that ! [03:18] ok.. what you say make sense to me! but maybe it's not for some others... [03:18] ;) [03:18] https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Statuses is the relevant help page, though it doesn't describe the workflow very well. [03:19] But it does give the definition of Incomplete, which is what is at issue here. [03:19] ok then... different way to look at it then... why not when the bug maintainer replies it changes the status to incomplete then? [03:20] automagically [03:20] I normally do it by setting the status to Incomplete, and add the comment in the expanded section at the top. [03:20] But it would be nice to have a button to do that in the main comment section at the bottom. [03:20] cause I discovered the other night that you can'rt reply and change the status in the one instance... [03:21] You can. [03:21] Although maybe not tomorrow. [03:21] Because bug editing is all changing at the moment. [03:21] Oh this is on edge BTW [03:22] consider me to be thinking aloud! :P [03:22] You'll see that there is a comment textarea when you are editing a bug's status. [03:22] So you can do both at once. [03:23] * wgrant disappears. [03:23] well next time I get a bug I'll double check that... as it didn't the other night [04:53] there some LP issue? taking an age to connect... [04:54] was fine a second ago [04:56] Didn't take long for him to disconnect... === micahg1 is now known as micahg [06:21] I just got a weird notice that my karma expired? [06:21] is that a bug or by design [06:23] micahg: It's a bug that appears sometimes when the karma cache is being updated, I believe. [06:24] ok [06:24] already reported, what module is the karma under? [06:25] Probably launchpad-registry, but I couldn't be sure. [06:30] wgrant: I can't find it [06:30] micahg: I think it might have been rejected. Let me find it... [06:31] micahg: Bug #354297 [06:31] Launchpad bug 354297 in launchpad-registry "Lies about lack of karma on +karma" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354297 [06:32] wgrant: I'm getting something slighly different on edge [06:33] micahg: What's different about it? [06:33] Apart from the style changing. [06:34] message [06:34] that one is more descriptive [06:34] mine just says karma has expired [06:34] Aha. [06:35] The message was changed a month or two ago. [06:35] What is the new wording? [06:35] Ah, found one. [06:36] So, the new one is more correct, but a bit more confusing. Maybe it could do with a help link. [06:36] or just say, that the karma is regenerating or something [06:37] Well, that's a separate bug. [06:37] That message is bad, and you shouldn't be seeing that message. [06:37] they should have just added the word daily to your message [06:37] no karma has been assigned yet today [06:37] or rather [06:37] it's currently being updated [06:37] please check back soon [06:38] No - there should be no point during the generation where the data isn't there. [06:38] So that message should never be shown if you have karma. [06:38] I guess that's true if it's an ACID database transaction [06:38] One would think it should be. [06:38] But apparently not. [06:39] should I comment on your bug? [06:39] Please do. [06:39] And metoo it! [06:41] BTW, I don't think you're supposed to confirm your own bugs, or maybe lp has a different policy than ubuntu [06:42] micahg: I had confirmation that it wasn't just me experiencing the bug. [06:42] => it is reasonable to confirm it. [06:42] ah [06:42] ok [06:42] * micahg has definitely confirmed though :) [06:43] Thanks. [08:11] what's resubmit in merge review? [14:11] has edge not updated since Friday? === Gwaihir is now known as Gwaihir_afk [16:54] is there a page that lists the hardware specs for the builders anywhere? [16:54] Sarvatt_: they're virtual machines [16:54] even arm? [16:55] i'm looking at pixman now and it determines what optimizations to use based on the cpu features of the build machine [16:57] theres a few bugs asking for neon or SIMD support in pixman on arm but it depends on if the builder supports it [16:58] and if its just a virtualized versatile kernel it wont [17:00] it seems a bit stupid to let that depend on the build instead of the host machine? [17:00] I know that is the easy route, but still [17:01] * LarstiQ is thinking of mplayers dynamic support for instance [17:09] ah ok i'm wrong, these are just compiler checks to make sure the compiler supports it and it does have runtime detection. sorry for the noise :) === thekorn is now known as THEKORN === THEKORN is now known as thekorn [19:03] Hey people. Any idea how this can happen in a bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/exaile/0.3.x/+bug/157676 ? [19:03] Ubuntu bug 157676 in exaile/0.3.x "A GUI info for Replay Gain" [Wishlist,New] [19:03] it's set to the same milestone 6 times and thus is counted as 6 different bugs for this milestone [20:31] greetings [20:31] is there a way to change the status of bugs in batch. I just released a milestone of my project, and would like to move all the bugs from "committed" to "released" [20:32] jfroy: You can use the email interface: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface [20:33] jfroy: You could also use the Launchpad API [20:35] nhandler: the statement about GPG signed, does it mean my email has to be in one of my GPG keys on LP ? [20:35] or that i should GPG sign each email ? [20:36] Sarvatt_: the latter, with a key that is registered [20:36] SiDi: It means that the email you send to the LP email interface needs to be signed with a GPG key that is linked to your LP account [20:37] But thats not required if its only a comment, right, nhandler ? [20:38] SiDi: right, only when giving LP instructions [20:38] LarstiQ: okies thanks [20:38] any idea how to GPG sign my mails with Gmail ? :D [20:39] SiDi: Enigmail? [20:41] im tied to webmails unfortunately :) [20:41] i'll pass on LP commands via mail for now :P [20:43] SiDi: Try FireGPG [20:44] let me see if it works with Shiretoko now ! [20:58] nhandler: LarstiQ: it looks like i can send inline signed emails with fireGPG, thanks :) [21:00] SiDi: Glad it worked. === magcius_ is now known as magcius === ripps_ is now known as ripps === Gwaihir_afk is now known as Gwaihir [21:51] <[Ramy]> is there a way to automatically build debian packages from git python repository ? [21:51] [Ramy]: could you specify a bit more? [21:54] <[Ramy]> LarstiQ, i want to package 2 open source projects they are written in python and they are using git as DCVS, how can launchpad help me to package them to ubuntu ? [22:00] [Ramy]: you can request for launchpad to vcs-import them [22:02] <[Ramy]> LarstiQ, what is that ? how can I do that ? [22:04] [Ramy]: the other thing would be PPAs to build/host .debs [22:04] [Ramy]: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Imports [22:04] [Ramy]: other than that, I don't know what you have in mind for help with packaging [22:05] [Ramy]: we don't yet have the branches hooked up to the ppas [22:05] [Ramy]: but there are cunning plans [23:31] Hi: Trying to Telling Ubuntu how to authenticate the PPA , via launchpad.net instructions, when I do the ¨sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A¨ I get ¨gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host¨ - is this a know error with a fix? Is the host down for everyone? Could it be my ISP firewall (I have to add an ISP proxy for /etc/apt) - do i need to put in proxy info to get the keyserve [23:35] what is the purpose of ssh key pair authentication? why not type Launchpad's password to connect via https? [23:35] I mean, bzr branch lp:project [23:35] type lp's password: xxx [23:36] instead of using the priv key [23:38] Another question: If I have a merged branch, but I find another bug, should I create another branch with the same name, or should I get the merged branch and commit a new revision, and propose for merging again? [23:38] If I click the "Yes, this is the bug I'm tryin to report" button on launchpad, will it still attach the apport thingys? [23:40] RenatoSilva: You are meant to only ever give your Launchpad password to Launchpad. [23:40] That is, the web UI. [23:40] wgrant: ? [23:40] And I would be most displeased if I had to type my passphrase for every push. [23:41] not passphrase, password [23:41] the one from the website [23:41] Simple difference in terminology. [23:41] I didn't get the specific reason for using a key pair [23:42] instead of the website's password [23:42] I don't know, but I'm certainly glad it's the case. [23:43] wgrant: it could be because key pair authentication is more powerful, it's harder to get a private key that a passwod [23:44] wgrant: however you private key is protected, huh, by your website's passwrod! [23:44] That is one very good reason, yes. All of my hosts require key-based authentication. [23:45] wgrant: if someone discovers my password, he can get into the web interface and simply replace my public key [23:45] While that's a very secure password that only ever gets given to Launchpad itself over HTTPS, I've filed a bug or two complaining that it is inadequate. [23:48] wgrant: ^ [23:49] RenatoSilva: Hm? [23:51] wgrant: it's almost impossible to know what is my private key, however my website's password is fragile, comparing to the private key. [23:51] wgrant: Therefore it's just about getting my website's password [23:51] What is the irc command to tell my irc cliect (webchat.freenode.net) to not show nic joins & departs messages on my screen? thx :) [23:51] RenatoSilva: Right. Which is why I filed a bug about that. [23:51] wgrant: And you get control over your key pair [23:52] kub1: try /qwebirc sucks :) [23:52] RenatoSilva: No, they get the ability to allow another key pair to impersonate you. [23:52] wgrant: that's what I mean [23:52] kub1: About your apt-key problem: you seem to be behind a firewall. [23:53] wgrant: he can delete you pub key so that you can't authenticate anymore, then he adds his own pub key to impersonate you [23:54] RenatoSilva: that was a`joke, right?? [23:54] RenatoSilva: Right, but he cannot gain control over your existing key pair. Important distinction. [23:54] kub1: yes :D I use it at work, it's problematic [23:55] wgrant: but it's a disaster anyway [23:55] RenatoSilva: It is. [23:56] wgrant: Imagine someone doing this with sabdfl :) [23:56] I agree with you fully that this is an issue. I've filed bugs on it over the years.