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[11:06] <SiDi_> kwwii: i LOVE the humanity icon theme ;)
[12:31]  * ckontros is having a off day and cant remember how to run this on a specific dir. find -name *.svg | xargs inkscape --vacuum-defs -z
[12:38]  * SiDi_ hides
[12:38] <thorwil> ckontros: why don't you just cd to the specific dir?
[12:39]  * thorwil pulls away SiDi_'s cover
[12:39] <ckontros> I did now.
[12:39] <ckontros> Then I did: inkscape --vacuum-defs -z *.svg
[12:40] <ckontros> So all works fine. ;)
[12:41] <SiDi_> thorwil: meh
[12:47] <thorwil> http://light-test.com/wp-content/uploads/990/danalighttest.jpg
[12:47] <ckontros> uh huh... :)
[13:00] <thorwil> http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/07/11/desktop-theming-and-icons/
[13:00] <thorwil> and http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/07/12/icon-theme-hacking-progress/
[13:22] <ckontros> thorwil: But Jono surely doesn't realize where these other icons are used and will pop up. IIRC there's code changes coming to better do this for a set.
[13:24] <thorwil> ckontros: yeah, someone already pointed that out in the comments
[13:24] <ckontros> Oh. I didn't read.
[13:24] <thorwil> i just found it interesting that jono started to fiddle around with that
[13:24] <ckontros> True.
[13:25] <thorwil> reading blog comments is often just a waste of time. similar to reading blog posts :>
[13:26] <ckontros> :P
[13:32] <macvr> ckontros: topic needs editing ;p
[13:33] <macvr> for the room
[13:33] <ckontros> To?
[13:33] <ckontros> (and I think anyone can edit)
[13:33] <macvr> your adult/professional nick ;p
[13:36] <ckontros> Sorry man. It's just a little early here and I don't get it.
[13:36] <ckontros> (not quite firing on all cylinders yet)
[13:36] <macvr> the topic says, set by _MMA_ ...
[13:36] <thorwil> what a childish leftover from the distant past!!
[13:37] <ckontros> Doesn't actually say it in channel.
[13:37] <macvr> lol
[13:40] <macvr> thorwil: several blogs of late are just "Dear Diary..." entries!
[14:04] <macvr> ckontros: are we missing a lot of simlinks?
[14:05] <macvr> the appearance window doesnt use the trash can, for delete
[14:06] <macvr> also will xdg folder icons be used in Jaunty?
[14:06] <macvr> they dont show up in the places menu
[14:18] <ckontros> macvr: The "delete" icon is actually separate. Like gtk-delete or something. Some themes just link to the trash. As far as the XDG folders go, I'm unsure about Jaunty. Support for theming might be new.
[14:19] <ckontros> We don't (or didn't) use them in Studio and I personally don't either.
[14:21] <macvr> ckontros: shall mail the list about xdg? or shall we leave it for now? because the folders have been created and it would be a sad if it was just that we dont have the right simlinks
[14:21] <macvr> shall I
[14:24] <ckontros> Ask the question about the folders but I'm sure of the delete thing. We just need an icon for it. I didn't simlink it because Daniel was working on that series of icons.
[14:24] <macvr> ok.
[14:25] <ckontros> macvr: Like I said, I believe support for theming is recent for XDG.
[14:26] <macvr> ckontros: yeah... but someone needs to test it in Karmic also to make sure it working right
[14:27] <ckontros> I'm actually gonna do that today as I'm doing a clean install in a VM.
[14:28] <macvr> ah! why didnt i think of that! my Karmic VM  has been idle since the gdm was broken
[14:28] <ckontros> ;)
[15:29] <ckontros> macvr: Isn't some sort of "Downloads" folder a default XDG folder?
[15:34] <macvr> ckontros: yeah
[15:34] <macvr> i dont think its being implemented fully , even in karmic
[15:34] <ckontros> ok
[15:35] <ckontros> That's the only one that didn't show for me.
[15:36] <macvr> ckontros: Bug #204567 is in the papercuts , i think it will be done by karmic final
[15:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 204567 in hundredpapercuts "downloads should go to $HOME/Downloads : XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR should be set to "$HOME/Downloads"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204567
[15:37] <ckontros> Hmm... but the icon should be called "folder-download"? (note the missing "s")
[15:37] <macvr> ckontros: yup... i still have my doubts , even though Nicolo mentioned it
[15:38] <ckontros> Ok. We'll see how it plays out. Easy fix if we're wrong.
[15:45] <macvr> ckontros: simlinks for the notification icons in the scalable folder?
[15:46] <ckontros> What about them?
[15:46] <macvr> its not there!
[15:46] <ckontros> I know.
[15:46] <ckontros> We already had this chat.
[15:46] <macvr> ok , you are waiting for kwwii ?
[15:47] <macvr> ckontros:  the gtk-dialogue-warning looks blurry in the dialogue widows
[15:47] <ckontros> Well if you remember I said I'm not keen on working around other people's bugs. We do things correctly and if others mess up oh well.
[15:47] <ckontros> But having said that, I'm still gonna have a chat with Ken.
[15:48] <kwwii> about what?
[15:48] <ckontros> macvr: Screenshot please.
[15:48] <ckontros> kwwii: Got a min to Skype?
[15:48] <macvr> kwwii: the notify-osd icons
[15:49] <kwwii> erm, yeah...let me get my stuff setup
[15:50] <ckontros> k. Im on
[15:51] <kwwii> lol, and install skype
[15:51] <ckontros> macvr: Note that if the rest of the icons /should/ be used, but just aren't because of this bug, I want the other sizes done so they can be used when the bug is fixed.
[15:52] <ckontros> kwwii: Clean install lately?
[15:52] <macvr> ckontros: gtk-dialogue-warning> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-Untitled%20Window.png
[15:52] <macvr> the white creates the blur
[15:53] <ckontros> macvr: Hmm... Doesn't feel fuzzy to me. See what others think on the list.
[15:54] <macvr> if its ok for you, nevermind... ;p
[15:54] <ckontros> Trust me. I know I'm not always correct. But if you wanna let it go ok.
[15:56] <kwwii> on the phone, bbiab
[15:56] <ckontros> k
[15:57] <macvr> ckontros: what kwwii said was, since the 48px is the size of use for the notifications, it doesn have to be done in all sizes , my *only* concern is because the rescale algorithm does a crappy job , doing the icon in all sizes is just a quick edit for me. :)
[15:58] <ckontros> macvr: Ok. I'll still go right to the source for further info.
[15:59] <macvr> ckontros: just do 1 thing, rename the nm-signals 128px svg for the notify-osd icons, and test it out with notify-send, you'll see that even the shape doesnt come out right
[16:00] <kwwii> ckontros: ok, I am ready
[16:00] <macvr> even worse is , the 48px svg doesnt even get it right!
[16:00] <macvr> notify-osd^
[16:11] <ckontros> macvr: Ok. I got the situation. Please send me files with all the sizes for notify-osd so I can test some things out.
[16:14] <ckontros> macvr: Wanna work on a little BZR HOWTO today?
[16:28] <macvr> just a sec... was away...
[16:30] <ckontros> macvr:np. Whenever.
[16:31] <macvr> i knew you would bring this up... so i have the screen shots of the 48px svg and the png outputs from when i had done it in color.> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/SVG.png
[16:31] <macvr> ckontros: compare with the shape of png > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/PNG.png
[16:32] <ckontros> heh. Honestly, that doesn't bother me. :P
[16:32] <macvr> ckontros: well the shape is awkard!
[16:33] <ckontros> That's the style. By design. ;)
[16:33] <macvr> ckontros: no its not, the svg isnt being displayed properly, the actual style is displayed well only if it is a png
[16:34] <macvr> i'm not happy with the output , but if you insist , what can i say :(
[16:34] <ckontros> Incorrect. Its the size of the SVG. The human ones are SVG but 48x48. (according to kwwii)
[16:34] <ckontros> Not 128px like ours.
[16:34] <macvr> i know ... but this shape doesnt come out well even when it is in 48px
[16:35] <macvr> well i'll just send you the files.. and you decide
[16:35] <ckontros> Sure
[16:35] <ckontros> cheese
[16:35] <ckontros> gah
[16:36] <macvr> ckontros: actually you already have them... i have sent you the color 48px svg., you can simply add them to the scalable folder and try it out
[16:37] <ckontros> No. I want them at all sizes.
[16:37] <macvr> ckontros: ah! :/
[16:37] <macvr> wait...
[16:38] <macvr> ckontros: you could just rename the nm-signal and test it out
[16:39] <ckontros> macvr: Please send me the notify-osd files with all the sizes included. Thank you.
[16:41] <ckontros> macvr: Also note that kwwii said that what we have there now (just the 48px PNGs) should work without the simlinks. It just looks for 48px SVGs 1st.
[16:43] <macvr> ckontros: so then no need , for anything else right?
[16:43] <macvr> ckontros: i just checked it out, it works
[16:44] <ckontros> Send them in all sizes.
[16:44] <macvr> ckontros: ;p in a few mins
[16:44] <ckontros> np. doesn't even need to be today.
[16:45] <macvr> ckontros: anyway , i'll finish it , today
[16:45] <macvr> what was it about BZR?
[16:45] <ckontros> ok
[16:47] <macvr> ckontros: BZR?
[16:47] <ckontros> Do you want to learn to be able to upload to the set?
[16:48] <macvr> ckontros: nope...
[16:48] <ckontros> macvr: Oh. Then there's no real reason to be on the team since anyone can subscribe to bugs.
[16:48] <ckontros> That's why I added you.
[16:49] <macvr> ckontros: hei! you explicitly told me not to upload stuff!
[16:49] <ckontros> To directly fix icons you've worked on.
[16:49] <macvr> oh those... ok
[16:49] <ckontros> So, you'll need a lesson.
[16:49] <macvr> yup
[16:50] <macvr> ckontros: right now is fine for me
[16:50] <ckontros> Ok. Lemmie get some links together. PM
[16:50] <macvr> ok
[17:54] <ckontros> Boredom and clippers are never good. http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6940/20090712113753.jpg
[20:51] <ckontros> macvr: Also just a note: I would prefer you upload big changes rather than lots of small changes. ie: If you have to make changes to the set of nm-* or notify-osd-* icons do them all and upload as a whole.
[20:52] <macvr> ckontros: i know.... i had change the SSH key , so was just testing if it worked...
[20:52] <ckontros> np. Just giving you a heads up.
[20:53] <macvr> ckontros: now my key is>  mac-v@canonical  < hehe
[20:53] <ckontros> A bit misleading. But whatever.
[20:54] <macvr> exactly , misleading
[20:54] <ckontros> To what end?
[20:54] <macvr> just for fun ;p
[20:54] <macvr> anyway, i'll dot the rest and upload them tomorrow
[20:54] <ckontros> k
[20:54] <macvr> do^
[22:00] <macvr> ckontros: do you have a different version of the script , which gives out a 128px *PNG*?
[22:03] <ckontros> no
[22:09]  * macvr has to create one