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unknown_vvao04:10
mr_spot_hey, is there anybody about who can review pulseaudio-mixer-applet? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pulseaudio-mixer-applet04:24
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thermHi @all11:42
thermhave a problem with debian watch file11:42
thermis it able to recognize the version of a file in the middle of the url?11:43
thermit is about: http://willuhn.de/products/jameica/releases/1.6/datasource/de_willuhn_ds.src.zip11:44
thermso the version of the code is 1.6 but the file has no version11:44
thermnow uscan tells me http://pastebin.com/d10c052111:45
thermhas anyone an idea?11:46
DktrKranztherm, I don't think it's possible11:56
goshawktherm: i had a similar issue11:57
goshawktherm: wait11:58
DktrKranztherm, you can workaround it in a different way, by parsing http://willuhn.de/products/jameica/download.php for instance11:58
goshawktherm: http://pastebin.ca/149257012:02
thermok thank you I will try12:04
thermDktrKranz: Could you descripe it more detailed for me, what you mean by it?12:12
DktrKranztherm, is link to de_willuhn_ds.src.zip archive referenced in a webpage?12:14
thermgoshawk: in your case the file did also have a version, mine has not. Or did I made a mistake: http://pastebin.com/m5781c43b12:15
thermDktrKranz, the website you download it is: http://willuhn.de/products/jameica/download_ext.php but the real location is http://willuhn.de/products/jameica/releases/1.6/datasource/de_willuhn_ds.src.zip or what did you mean?12:16
DktrKranztherm, thanks. I should be able to provide a working watch, now. I'll do some tests ;)12:18
thermDktrKranz, no thanks to you ;-)12:21
DktrKranztherm, http://pastebin.com/d6943d17612:21
thermhey wonderful it works, big thanks to you!12:25
DktrKranztherm, http://pastebin.com/d2a29d48f  improved version, so you  can fetch upstream archive too12:30
thermDktrKranz, thanks it is uploading now12:33
thermso is there maybe someone who wants to take a look after: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhndatasource ?12:35
fabrice_spHi. Any MOTU willing to have a look at Bug #337337 ? It's a candidate for an SRU. Thnaks!12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337337 in mountmanager "mountmanager crashed with SIGSEGV in QGridLayout::rowCount()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33733712:36
DktrKranzfabrice_sp, you chould use (LP: #xxxxxx, #yyyyyy, #zzzzzz) format instead12:39
fabrice_spDktrKranz, I have to say I didn't know it was possible :-)12:42
DktrKranzfabrice_sp, just test. Run debuild -S -uc -us and check *_source.changes. If Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed line is populated by all of them, you did it right ;)12:43
fabrice_spgreat: I'll test right now :-)12:43
DktrKranzalso, mind uploading debdiff for jaunty too, so devfil can process it?12:43
fabrice_spDktrKranz, this is where I'm always lost: for a SRU, it should be fixed first in dev version. It could be at the same time?12:44
devfilfabrice_sp, same time12:44
fabrice_spI'll post also a debdiff for jaunty-proposed12:44
fabrice_spok12:44
DktrKranzfabrice_sp, I fixed a rm -fr / command at the same time, I was in a little hurry that time ;)12:45
DktrKranz(rm -fr / with root privs, of course)12:45
fabrice_spDktrKranz, it's understandable! :-)12:46
DktrKranzpackage in question was slack, wasn't that funny? :)12:47
fabrice_splol12:47
leifdk1978hep12:53
quentusrexAnyone awake?12:53
quentusrexAnyone familiar with x509 certs?12:54
leifdk1978sorry is new me self12:54
mzz(hoping I'm only slightly in the wrong place...) where do bugs in ubuntu-dev-tools (mk-sbuild-lv) go?12:55
leifdk1978just wondering if some on is the leader of the grafik programs12:55
mzz(specifically it bails when it can't modprobe dm_snapshot, which is built in now apparently)12:56
ScottKmzz: I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-dev-tools/+filebug will work.12:56
mzzScottK: tried that already: "Ubuntu Developer Tools does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker. "12:57
ScottKOdd, since there are bugs there.12:57
ScottKThen just file it against the Ubuntu package.12:57
mzzScottK: (and "Launchpad doesn't know what bug tracker Ubuntu Developer Tools uses")12:57
ScottKmzz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+filebug12:58
mzzok, I'll just do that then. Thanks!12:58
ScottKquentusrex: Just ask your question.  Someone might answer.12:58
quentusrexScottK it's the same question as earlier... I have a problem with openldap and my x509 certificates.12:59
ScottKOK.12:59
ScottKWell I know a fair amount about X.509 for mail related applications but nothing about LDAP.13:00
leifdk1978any one in charge of blender13:00
Laneynobody and everybody13:01
fabrice_spI love that answer :-D13:02
ScottKIt is both the curse and beauty of team maintenance.13:02
quentusrexI've filed a bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/39836613:03
ubottuError: This bug is private13:03
quentusrexScottK I'm familiar with x509s as well, but I can't figure out why openldap can't handle my certs.13:03
quentusrexwhen openvpn and everything can handle them.13:03
leifdk1978ok if there is a mentor avalible i would love to help on media/grafik program package en merge13:05
ScottKleifdk1978: Just ask your question and there's a reasonable chance someone will answer.13:06
leifdk1978is there mentoring avalible for learning to pack and merge packages13:07
jpdsYes.13:07
leifdk1978ok nice13:07
Laneymerging blender with Debian's version is a nice task to undertake13:07
ScottKespecially since Laney is volunteering to help.13:08
leifdk1978yeah and found other programs that need a minor update to13:09
LaneyI'll answer questions in channel, but of course13:09
leifdk1978ok i just fiend the motu page and start reading those13:10
leifdk1978hmmmm13:14
leifdk1978Laney: is pbbuilder a good start13:16
Laneyyes you want to get pbuilder set up13:16
leifdk1978ok13:16
LaneyI recommend you use pbuilder-dist from ubuntu-dev-tools13:17
leifdk1978from apt13:17
Laneysure13:17
leifdk1978ok thanx13:18
quentusrexscottK: know any way to find out why gnutls/openldap don't like my certs?13:22
leifdk1978hmmmm is it 9,04 or jaunty13:33
fabrice_spdevfil, DktrKranz I've updated the bug #337337 with both debdiff (for Karmic and Jaunty), and just subscribed motu-sru13:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337337 in mountmanager "mountmanager crashed with SIGSEGV in QGridLayout::rowCount()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33733713:34
mr_spot_can i get someone to review my new package, pulseaudio-mixer-applet? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pulseaudio-mixer-applet13:35
leifdk1978hmmm13:37
fabrice_spmr_spot_, I have to go now, but I'll have a look after13:40
mr_spot_fabrice_sp: thanks :)13:40
leifdk1978:)13:41
leifdk1978hmmmm now i  am looking on debain files to merge on ubuntu the blender files13:43
leifdk1978Laney: is it the dcs file i need to merge debian to ubuntu13:48
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rrittenhouseAnybody know whats up with the ubuntu planet?14:57
rrittenhouseNo posts since the 9th :D14:57
Laneyare bash conditionals right associative?14:59
Laneyie how is x && y || z parsed?14:59
thermI would be glad if someone could revu my packages: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/swtcalendar (advocated 1x), http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhndatasource , http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/h2database15:05
pochuLaney:15:06
pochuemilio@saturno:~$ true && true || false; echo $?15:06
pochu015:06
pochuemilio@saturno:~$ true && false || false; echo $?15:06
pochu115:06
pochuso that would be: (x && y) || z15:06
pochubecause of this:15:07
pochuemilio@saturno:~$ false && true || false; echo $?15:07
pochu115:07
Laneythanks15:07
pochuerr15:07
pochuLaney: actually it's: x && (y || z)15:08
pochuemilio@saturno:~$ true && true || false; echo $?15:08
pochu015:08
pochubah, I can't think15:08
LaneyI just put the parens in explicitly :(15:09
Laneynow all I need is apt-get source=$upstream_version --tar-only to work15:09
coolbhavihello is the maintainer for universe now Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>/15:22
geseryes15:39
hyperairgeser: seriously?15:42
geserhyperair: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-May/028213.html15:43
coolbhavithanks geser15:46
hyperairgeser: seriously?,up15:50
geserhyperair: the new update-maintainer script from u-d-t in karmic already implements it16:09
hyperairgeser: i see. i never knew it even existed =p16:15
coolbhavistrange problem http://pastebin.com/m23761330 but look at this: http://pastebin.com/m46a52f4117:03
coolbhaviit happens to me with some packages when  I download them off LP17:03
gesercoolbhavi: dscverify doesn't use your keyring by default (look inside the script to see how it calls gpg). Add DSCVERIFY_KEYRINGS="~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg" to your .devscripts17:29
geseryou can use dscverify on the .dsc file to check if it worked17:30
coolbhaviokay geser thanks again17:31
fabrice_spcoolbhavi, according to launchpad, version 0.4.4-0ubuntu1 has been signed by Thomas Jaeger17:31
fabrice_spthis would explain why you don't have the right key17:32
coolbhavifabrice_sp, the package was uploaded and signed by nhandler while uploading17:33
fabrice_spoh, ok17:33
geserfabrice_sp: changed-by is Thomas but signed-by is nathan (sponsored upload) [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-May/001342.html]17:35
fabrice_spthanks for the explanation, geser17:36
hyperairdo ubuntu buildds have internet connections?18:31
Laneyno18:32
hyperairhmmmm18:32
hyperairthat means packaging microemu is going to be hell.18:32
hyperairit uses maven2 for building, and it appears that maven2 likes to download things18:32
[Ramy]can you point any python specific packaging tutorial ?18:40
pochuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python18:45
* hyperair grumbles about maven2 18:45
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[Ramy]pochu, I have only .gz file format for the source code18:57
pochu[Ramy]: .gz or .tar.gz ?18:58
[Ramy]pochu, .gz and I have .bz2 but not .tar.gz or .tar.bz218:59
pochu[Ramy]: you can repack then19:01
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AnAntHello19:07
AnAntI got a question, why is Ubuntu's bzr-fastimport different (and even out-dated) from Ubuntu's bzr-fastimport ? Although the maintainer in both distro's is the same person ?19:08
pochudid you mean Debian instead of Ubuntu somewhere?19:09
AnAntyup19:09
AnAntsilly me !19:09
AnAntwhy is Ubuntu's bzr-fastimport different (and even out-dated) from Debian's bzr-fastimport ? Although the maintainer in both distro's is the same person ?19:10
* LarstiQ wagers a guess but first checks the packages19:10
LaneyAnAnt: why don't you ask the maintainer?19:11
pochuwho's the maintainer?19:11
pochuthey are not in sync19:11
AnAntjelmer19:11
AnAnthe's on IRC now, but not responding19:11
LarstiQAnAnt: because jelmer is not an Ubuntu maintainer19:11
AnAntLarstiQ: are you refering to the fact that there is no maintainer person in Ubuntu ?19:12
pochuI guess the package would need a sync19:12
AnAntLarstiQ: if you look at Ubuntu's bzr-fastimport changelog, you'll find that jelmer is the one who packaged it for Ubuntu (using an @ubuntu.com) address19:12
LaneyIt could probably be synced, but I'd check to confirm.19:13
coolbhaviAnAnt, yes but generally packages in ubuntu are maintained by a team19:14
coolbhaviAnAnt, like MOTU/development team for universe/multiverse and core-dev team for main/restricted packages19:15
AnAntcoolbhavi: yup I understand that19:15
AnAntok, I think it does need to be sync'ed19:18
LarstiQAnAnt: yeah19:18
AnAntdid someone ask for a sync request or shall I do so ?19:22
[Ramy]pochu, there is no INSTALL file in my source, and it is not clear to me how did you figure out that terminator is using distutils ?19:23
pochu[Ramy]: if it has a setup.py file, it uses distutils19:23
[Ramy]pochu, it has setup.py :)19:24
[Ramy]pochu,  should I use bsd instead of mit in the dh_make tool ?19:27
pochu[Ramy]: use whatever upstream license is19:27
[Ramy]pochu, dh_make give me this message "Copyright type "mit" is not gpl, lgpl, artistic or bsd"19:29
pochuthen use something else (or nothing) and later update debian/copyright19:30
AnAntok, I submitted a sync-request for bzr-fastimport19:33
Laneydid you test it?19:36
AnAntLaney: you mean bzr-fastimport ?19:43
AnAntor were you talking to someone else /19:43
AnAnt?19:43
AnAntLP 39850719:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 398507 in bzr-fastimport "Sync bzr-fastimport 0.8.0~bzr181-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39850719:44
Laneyyes!19:44
AnAntLaney: yes, I tested it here19:44
AnAntLaney: actually I used git-bzr to test it19:44
AnAntthat's my only use for bzr-fastimport19:44
Laneyok19:45
[Ramy]pochu, is grep -B 3 -A 3 import * in the source code directory ?19:47
pochu[Ramy]: yeah19:48
pochuthat is so that you can see whether an import is optional or not...19:48
pochue.g. you would catch19:48
pochutry:19:48
pochu    import foo19:48
pochuexcept:19:48
pochu   pass # it's optional19:48
[Ramy]pochu, what I can see that there are imports for setuptools, glob,os,platform,re,sys19:50
pochuglob, os, re, sys are all core modules19:51
pochusetuptools isn't19:51
pochu(I think)19:51
pochucore modules are shipped with Python, so you don't need additional dependencies19:51
[Ramy]pochu, yeah, setuptools is in python-setuptools19:51
pochu[Ramy]: so if it's required, you will need it in Depends19:56
pochu[Ramy]: unless it's required only for the build (e.g. it's imported in setup.py), in which case you need it in Build-Depends19:56
pochu[Ramy]: in the case that you have e.g.:19:56
pochutry:19:56
pochu    import foo19:57
pochuexcept:19:57
pochu   import bar19:57
pochuyou could have a Depends: python-foo | python-bar19:57
pochubtw there's #debian-python on OFTC, good channel for python packaging questions :)19:57
* hyperair grumbles about his isp being stupid about alioth connections again20:13
[Ramy]pochu, what is OFTC ?20:13
[Ramy]pochu, is this output ok ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/216389/20:13
hyperairirc.oftc.net.20:13
hyperairit's an irc server20:14
pochu[Ramy]: you need to install the build dependencies20:19
[Ramy]pochu, in XS-Python-Version is there a keyword names 'all' ?20:21
pochuyou should put >= $minimun_version20:22
pochuiirc20:23
[Ramy]pochu, it works :-D20:27
pochu[Ramy]: cool :)20:35
[Ramy]pochu, I am trying now to upload the package to launchpad. Where can I find sources.changes package ?20:47
nhandler[Ramy]: You get that from building the source package: debuild -S20:48
[Ramy]nhandler, I imported my gpg key to launchpad but I still get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/216405/20:52
hyperair[Ramy]: run debsign with debsign -k <key id>20:53
nhandlerOr just pass the -k option to debuild20:53
hyperairoh yeah debuild20:53
nhandler[Ramy]: It also looks like your .orig.tar.gz is missing20:53
hyperairor add an identity to your GPG key that matches "Ramy Eid <rmyeid@gmail.com>" exactly.20:53
hyperairthe version number looks like a git commit hash O_O20:54
[Ramy]hyperair, it is20:54
hyperair[Ramy]: you should prepend some stuff to it.20:55
hyperair[Ramy]: e.g. git<date>.r1.<hash>20:55
hyperairthis is to make sure that when you upload a newer version, it will definitely be a bigger version20:56
[Ramy]hyperair, I just want to make it working the first time so I can improve it later. now, I am confused in the packaging folder I have many new folders and I am not sure what to do20:57
hyperair[Ramy]: many new folders?20:57
hyperaircould you name them?20:58
hyperairthe only new folder you should be having is debian/20:58
[Ramy]hyperair, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216413/20:59
hyperair[Ramy]: basically debian/ is your packaging folder, and the rest is upstream21:00
hyperair[Ramy]: also your orig.tar.gz is named wrongly. it should be bpython_<hash>.orig.tar.gz21:01
hyperairnote the underscore as opposed to the dash21:01
[Ramy]hyperair, I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/216418/21:02
hyperair[Ramy]: it's not signed.21:04
hyperair[Ramy]: you need to run debsign on the .changes file21:04
hyperairdebsign -k <gpg key id> bpython_<version>_source.changes21:04
hyperairor when you run debuild, run it with -k <gpg key id>21:04
[Ramy]hyperair, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216423/21:07
hyperairwell that's what it says21:07
hyperairyou don't have a secret key for that key id =\21:07
hyperairwhich means you didn't generate the key properly21:07
hyperairor something of that sort21:07
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[Ramy]hyperair,  how can I fix that ?21:11
hyperair[Ramy]: generate another key, use it?21:12
Zhenechhyperair, just a short note, didnt have time for geany stuff yet, but I think next week I should find some gap for you :)21:12
hyperairZhenech: sure. you received my email about geany-plugins-0.17?21:13
Zhenechyupp21:13
hyperairokay =)21:13
* hyperair never knew that Zhenech was Evgeni until a whois lookup a few seconds ago21:13
Zhenech:)21:14
hyperair:)21:14
* Zhenech does not say much in here21:14
hyperair18 lines since the beginning of my irssi log21:15
Zhenechguess that counts as not many :)21:16
hyperair...aha! you're the guy in #debian-xfce! the one i was talking to about xfce4-notify21:16
hyperairi knew i saw your nick somewhere21:16
Zhenech*shrug* maybe :)21:16
hyperairmy logs say so =O21:17
hyperairit was the tiem when banshee was spitting flames with xfce's notification daemon21:17
Zhenechthe crash in that one funky c# media player, rigt?21:17
hyperairyep21:17
Zhenechaye, I remember21:17
hyperairhaha21:17
[Ramy]hyperair, I made new gpg key and i get the same error !21:22
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hyperair[Ramy]: could you paste the output of this command: gpg --list-secret-keys21:26
[Ramy]hyperair, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216429/21:28
hyperair[Ramy]: debsign -k D92F708421:32
hyperairoh wait you tried that already21:33
hyperairhuh how strange.21:33
hyperair[Ramy]: what does it say when you try running the command gpg --clearsign?21:33
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[Ramy]hyperair, http://paste.ubuntu.com/216434/21:36
[Ramy]hyperair, i entered the passphrase and nothing after that it is hanging21:37
hyperairhmm21:38
hyperairhmmmmm21:38
hyperairwell of course it is hanging21:38
hyperairit's waiting for your input =p21:38
hyperairtype something in21:38
hyperairthen type ^D21:38
hyperair^D = Ctrl+D21:38
hyperairwell anyway21:38
hyperairdid you try -kA0E4675221:38
hyperairwith debsign i mean21:39
[Ramy]hyperair, yeah, I tried that21:40
hyperairand it didn't work eiter hu -=21:40
hyperairhow strange21:40
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[Ramy]hyperair, pochu thanks very much  for the support, I will try later to sign the package even it is never worked :(21:47
hyperair=\21:47
RoAkSoAxwho's an expert in python packaging?23:37
ScottKPOX23:37
RoAkSoAxthanks ScottK23:38
RoAkSoAxPOX, ping23:38
POXRoAkSoAx: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.23:38
ashbringerCan anyone clarify the "Modify pool structure to include more packages" section of the InstallCD Customization guide (here: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization#Modify%20pool%20structure%20to%20include%20more%20packages>)? Specifically, do following the relevant instructions get the packages selected automatically? I'm sort of new to this, and unsure if I'm asking {the right questions,in the right place}, so any help is apprecia23:39
RoAkSoAxScottK, you also do python packaging right??23:41
ScottKYes23:41
* Nafallo is tempted to !ask ;-)23:41
RoAkSoAxOk here is the thing: I've merged python-pcapy: Bug #39801223:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 398012 in pcapy "Please merge pcapy 0.10.6-1 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39801223:42
RoAkSoAxHowever it is failing to build: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28940415/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.pcapy_0.10.6-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz23:42
RoAkSoAxthe only change in Ubuntu was the addition of export DH_PYCENTRAL=nomove in debian/rules. In Jaunty, it installed the module in python2.6/dist-packages... however, in Karmic is not doing so, and it's trying to install it on python2.6/site-packages and that's why it seems to be FTBFS23:43
RoAkSoAx(I also have to say that when I builded in in my pbuilder and PPA the package builded)23:44
RoAkSoAxnow, by removing export DH_PYCENTRAL=nomove from debian/rules, it will actually install the module in python2.6/dist-packages23:44
RoAkSoAxso, I was wondering, why is this different? (And I think this means that I'll have to summit the patch to fix this)23:45
RoAkSoAxs/summit/submit23:45
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Does it use CDBS?23:46
RoAkSoAxScottK, yes it does.23:46
ScottKRoAkSoAx: We now have a patch it CDBS that magically adds layout-style=deb for all Python packages.  This is great for some packages that didn't work before.  For some that had already made changes for the dist-packages stuff the result is less fortunate.23:48
ScottKDebian CDBS does not have this change.23:48
ScottKI suspect this is why you are seeing the different resuilt.23:48
RoAkSoAxScottK, right. Well I've tested it removing export DH_PYCENTRAL=nomove and I have obtained what I believe is the expected result: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/216500/23:50
RoAkSoAxScottK, so, should I just go ahead and submit the patch removing 'export DH_PYCENTRAL=nomove' from debian/rules?23:52
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Sounds reasonable to me.23:52
RoAkSoAxScottK, Ok then. however, the difference between the Jaunty package and the Karmic package if I do remove the variable would be that it will leave 'pcapy-0.10.6.egg-info' in '/usr/share/pyshared/' instead of putting it in python2.6/dist-packages and python2.5/site-packages23:54
ScottKI think pyshared is the right place for that, but I don't promis that's correct.23:55
RoAkSoAxScottK, Ok cool. I do think is the right place for it also, since both files contain the same info and besides, Debian package has that file in pyshared too. Thanks a lot for your help :)23:59
ScottKRoAkSoAx: No problem.23:59

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