| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| Paddy_NI | Hello big guys and gals :) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28382 | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| Paddy_NI | woops | 00:31 |
| Paddy_NI | wrong channel | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 00:32 |
| Paddy_NI | :P | 00:33 |
| === Paddy_NI_ is now known as Paddy_NI | ||
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| fta | BUGabundo, encoding looks weird | 01:41 |
| fta | BUGabundo, http://identi.ca/notice/6340526 | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | fta: nope! its just like that | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | its called punycode | 01:41 |
| BUGabundo | some one decided to do µshort urls :) | 01:42 |
| fta | i call that garbage, that's just unrecognized unicode characters | 01:42 |
| fta | just finished watching enterprise, the series ending was disappointing :P | 01:44 |
| BUGabundo | wfm | 01:44 |
| * asac returned being drunk | 01:45 | |
| asac | good night i guess ;) | 01:45 |
| BUGabundo | asac: go to bed | 01:45 |
| BUGabundo | we don't want drunk ppl here | 01:45 |
| asac | hehe | 01:45 |
| BUGabundo | there are enough bugs already | 01:46 |
| asac | yeaj | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | humm typos already? | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | this is going to be fun | 01:46 |
| asac | i cannot even type, so its probaby better ;) | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | bye | 01:46 |
| asac | hehe .. yeah, this is genuine mistyping | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | I should follow you too | 01:46 |
| asac | cu tomorrow | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | 2am | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | no 'cu' please. its ass in PT | 01:46 |
| BUGabundo | :d | 01:47 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| ripps | Since some of the mozilla packages here use mercurial, I wanted to know if anybody using the latest version in Karmic has been having trouble getting `hg pull` to work. | 06:40 |
| * micahg doesn't build the packages and doesn't use karmic yet, sorry | 06:42 | |
| ripps | Exception AttributeError: "'httprepository' object has no attribute 'urlopener'" in <bound method httprepository.__del__ of <mercurial.httprepo.httprepository object at 0xb7e1a12c>> ignored | 06:43 |
| micahg | ripps: have you tried multiple repos yet? | 06:48 |
| micahg | maybe that repo is undergoing maintenance | 06:49 |
| ripps | micahg: you might be right. I've tried to got bitbucket.com using my browser, and it doesn't work. | 06:55 |
| EruditeHermit | fta: hi | 08:06 |
| EruditeHermit | fta: I was interested in your o3d builds if you get back | 09:05 |
| asac | happy sunday folks | 10:33 |
| asac | EruditeHermit: you have it installed, or want to try o3d? | 10:34 |
| asac | EruditeHermit: if you are looking for the sources: | 10:34 |
| asac | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-webtech/o3d-daily/ubuntu karmic main | 10:34 |
| asac | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-webtech/o3d-daily/ubuntu karmic main | 10:34 |
| asac | it doesnt work for me | 10:34 |
| asac | but thats because of driver issues | 10:35 |
| bmhm | hi every1 | 11:00 |
| bmhm | when I install 3.5 from repositories, I always get a sigfault. Any ideas? Or is this a known issue? | 11:00 |
| asac | bmhm: do you have lots of extensions installed? | 11:04 |
| bmhm | asac, yes. But I cannot even start with -safe-mode | 11:04 |
| asac | bmhm: does it help if you move your $HOME/.mozilla to some backup directory before starting? | 11:04 |
| bmhm | I'll try | 11:05 |
| asac | (e.g. start with fresh profile) | 11:05 |
| bmhm | asac, http://nopaste.info/ad553662a6.html | 11:07 |
| asac | bmhm: yeah. that one is known | 11:07 |
| asac | its a bug in X i think. but i couldnt track that down yet | 11:07 |
| asac | some folks see it | 11:07 |
| asac | some dont | 11:07 |
| bmhm | I see. I'm on amd64 if that matters. | 11:07 |
| asac | bmhm: is usually works better if you start it with --sync | 11:08 |
| asac | bmhm: yeah. i see it on i386 too | 11:08 |
| bmhm | --sync won't help. A pity :-( | 11:08 |
| asac | bmhm: do you use desktop effects? | 11:09 |
| bmhm | yes I do | 11:09 |
| asac | maybe disabling them helps? | 11:09 |
| bmhm | I'll try | 11:09 |
| asac | (just to narrow this further down) | 11:09 |
| bmhm | sure, I'd love to help where I can | 11:10 |
| asac | i think i even saw it on this system - which never had desktop effect; but it happens less frequently here than on my compiz system for sure | 11:10 |
| bmhm | asac, I just saw a window popping up, but still ending in a segfault | 11:10 |
| bmhm | I have an idea | 11:10 |
| bmhm | maybe it's my gnome globalmenu | 11:10 |
| asac | bmhm: segfault? | 11:10 |
| bmhm | segfault => segmentation fault | 11:11 |
| asac | oh i see that you get a segfault on second run | 11:11 |
| asac | only saw the x window error | 11:11 |
| asac | bmhm: which driver are you using? | 11:11 |
| asac | fta: which wifi driver are you using on NC10? | 11:18 |
| bmhm | well I found the solution | 11:18 |
| asac | 12:11 < asac> bmhm: which driver are you using? | 11:18 |
| bmhm | the problem is indeed gnome globalmenu | 11:18 |
| asac | hmm | 11:18 |
| asac | what is that globalmenu? | 11:18 |
| bmhm | a mac-like menu as gnome panel applet | 11:19 |
| asac | i think the X error is less likely to happen if you just started X | 11:19 |
| bmhm | I never saw it again | 11:19 |
| asac | bmhm: so now it starts? | 11:19 |
| bmhm | yes | 11:19 |
| bmhm | I just had to disable the gnome globalmenu applet | 11:20 |
| asac | bmhm: and you changed nothing else? | 11:20 |
| asac | bmhm: can you do some stress tests and start firefox like 50 times ;)? | 11:20 |
| bmhm | no | 11:20 |
| bmhm | for sure | 11:20 |
| asac | maybe also use other X apps a bitheavily before | 11:20 |
| bmhm | asac, the issue might be known. I remember there was a fix for firefox | 11:20 |
| asac | bmhm: how do i instlal the globalmenu? | 11:20 |
| bmhm | and ff3.5 has another name | 11:20 |
| bmhm | asac, there is a repository. Just a mo' | 11:21 |
| asac | ah its not in the main archive? | 11:21 |
| bmhm | no :( | 11:21 |
| asac | the fix for firefox, or the globalmenu thing ;)? | 11:21 |
| bmhm | well the fix was for global menu ;-) | 11:22 |
| asac | any pointers to the firefox fix would be great | 11:22 |
| bmhm | it's about XULs behaviour i think | 11:22 |
| asac | also please give me the repo so i can poke it a bit | 11:22 |
| bmhm | ok wait just a second | 11:22 |
| bmhm | I was just recovering my profile | 11:23 |
| bmhm | asac, if you speak german here is a howto I wrote: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Globalmenu | 11:23 |
| bmhm | if you don't just fetch the launchpad URLs ;-) | 11:23 |
| asac | bmhm: oh | 11:24 |
| asac | does that thing rip out the menus from the apps? | 11:24 |
| bmhm | yes exactly - all but firefox because of xul | 11:24 |
| bmhm | so there was a crash with firefox 3.0 also, if I recall correctly | 11:25 |
| bmhm | they fixed it by adding firefox' name to a static "do-not-touch"-list | 11:25 |
| asac | i did something similar at some point ;) | 11:25 |
| bmhm | and 3.5's name is not firefox | 11:25 |
| asac | ok i see | 11:26 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/screenshots/newmobile/ | 11:27 |
| asac | ;) | 11:27 |
| asac | but the idea was to remove toolbars and menus | 11:28 |
| asac | for full-screen wms for small/touch screens | 11:28 |
| bmhm | woah | 11:28 |
| bmhm | asac, that's my desktop how it looked like http://mampfit.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/globalmenu-nautilus.png | 11:29 |
| bmhm | I don't use the macish theme any more | 11:29 |
| asac | yeah | 11:30 |
| asac | bmhm: i cannot find "firefox" anywhere in the upstream source | 11:31 |
| bmhm | asac, I'm not exactly sure how they fixed it. I just know they did some kind of workaround. I will check out their bugtracker | 11:32 |
| bmhm | firefox 3.5 feels good. Great work! | 11:33 |
| asac | bmhm: thanks. if you have pointers to the patch they landed as a workaround that would be great | 11:34 |
| bmhm | They patched globalmenu, not firefox | 11:34 |
| bmhm | asac, I just found a bug related to the crash: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/issues/detail?id=371&can=1&q=firefox%20crash | 11:36 |
| asac | flash? | 11:37 |
| asac | so if you remove flash + nspluginwrapper does it work again? | 11:37 |
| bmhm | I won't try :D | 11:38 |
| bmhm | well | 11:38 |
| asac | why not? | 11:38 |
| bmhm | yes I will | 11:38 |
| asac | good ;) | 11:38 |
| bmhm | just give me a second | 11:38 |
| asac | i dont think its the bug you are seeing. at least i didnt see the output from that bug | 11:38 |
| bmhm | ok I am just starting ff | 11:40 |
| bmhm | it totaly messed up all my settings | 11:41 |
| bmhm | I need to re-login | 11:41 |
| bmhm | brb | 11:41 |
| asac2 | ok changed my nick as i changed the system | 11:42 |
| bmhm | I get a segfault | 11:45 |
| bmhm | I'm just looking for another location of my flash plugin | 11:46 |
| bmhm | but I'm pretty sure it's globalmenu | 11:46 |
| bmhm | brb | 11:46 |
| bmhm | asac, removing flash won't help | 11:49 |
| BUGabundo | olá e bom dia | 12:06 |
| BUGabundo | fta: would this work for you ? http://twitfactory.com/ | 12:07 |
| BUGabundo | standalone twitter/identi.ca client | 12:07 |
| bmhm | Yo no hablo español. :) | 12:07 |
| BUGabundo | cross-platform (Windows, Mac OS X and Linux) standalone application based on Mozilla xulrunner. | 12:07 |
| * BUGabundo slaps bmhm! | 12:08 | |
| BUGabundo | that was *NOT* Spanish | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo | :d | 12:08 |
| bmhm | XD | 12:08 |
| bmhm | but something similar? portuguese? | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 12:10 |
| bmhm | Wow, Tracemonkey rocks! | 12:11 |
| asac2 | fta still not happy with gwibber now? ;) | 12:18 |
| micahg | asac2: can you look at bug 398143 | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 398143 in firefox-3.5 "Very low volume for Flash videos on Firefox 3.5" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398143 | 12:26 |
| micahg | I think it's just a setting in his audio controls | 12:26 |
| asac2 | micahg: thats a question | 12:43 |
| asac2 | imo | 12:43 |
| asac2 | not a bug | 12:43 |
| asac2 | so i would push the "convert to question button" | 12:44 |
| micahg | ok | 12:44 |
| micahg | I take it you concur it's a settings issue | 12:44 |
| asac2 | yes | 12:44 |
| asac2 | pretty sure ... or something else. | 12:44 |
| asac2 | its a question until its a proper bug ;) | 12:44 |
| micahg | ok | 12:44 |
| micahg | asac2: is mozilla planning on keeping with the once a month approx security releases for 3.5? | 12:49 |
| asac2 | i haven't heard about any change in that regard ... but i should probably check the security mailing list mbox again ;) | 12:49 |
| micahg | ok | 12:49 |
| micahg | I'm just wondering when to poke you about the ubufox pulling in ff3.0 on jaunty | 12:50 |
| micahg | you said you wouldn't make a special release for it | 12:50 |
| micahg | so the next security release makes sense | 12:50 |
| micahg | oh, asac2, can you look at bug 398121 | 12:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 398121 in firefox-3.5 "firefox-3.5-gnome-support failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398121 | 12:55 |
| micahg | I installed the package without issue after I saw the bug | 12:55 |
| micahg | I updated teh description with the error from the log | 12:55 |
| asac2 | hmm | 12:56 |
| asac2 | thats probably a bug | 12:57 |
| asac2 | please set to triaged with priority high and assign to me | 12:57 |
| micahg | I think I already had the file | 12:57 |
| micahg | will do | 12:57 |
| micahg | asac2: if it's assigned, shouldn't it be in progress? | 12:57 |
| asac2 | no | 12:58 |
| asac2 | in progress means that i started to work on it ;) | 12:58 |
| micahg | hmmm | 12:58 |
| asac2 | but some might disagree | 12:58 |
| asac2 | its a personal thing how to organize your task list | 12:58 |
| micahg | ok | 12:59 |
| asac2 | i cannot look at "triaged" bugs to pick something because there are too many ;) | 12:59 |
| asac2 | so assigning brings them in my short list ;) | 12:59 |
| micahg | the status wiki page says in progress must be assigned, not the other way around...so you're preference is fine with me :) | 12:59 |
| micahg | *your | 12:59 |
| asac2 | well for ffox 3.5 its not a problem yet i guess | 12:59 |
| asac2 | but if its assigned i also get the bugmail ;) | 13:00 |
| micahg | don't you get the bugmail anyways? | 13:00 |
| asac2 | i get all yes | 13:00 |
| asac2 | but i dont read everything | 13:00 |
| micahg | does it flag it differently if you're assigned? | 13:01 |
| asac2 | yes my procmail rule moves it to my main inbox | 13:02 |
| micahg | :) | 13:02 |
| micahg | that works | 13:02 |
| asac2 | assigned goes to inbox; subscribed to a high-prio mailbox; the rest somewhere else | 13:03 |
| micahg | I haven't subscribed to all mozilla bugs yet | 13:03 |
| micahg | It's hard enough for me to keep up with what I triage :) | 13:03 |
| asac2 | subscribed == direct subscriptions | 13:03 |
| asac2 | better dont subscribe to everything | 13:04 |
| asac2 | you are already working really hard | 13:04 |
| asac2 | at some point it becomes inefficient | 13:04 |
| asac2 | if you are subscribed to firefox-3.0 its already more than most can handle | 13:04 |
| micahg | i'm not subscribed to all ff3.0 | 13:04 |
| micahg | just what I triage | 13:04 |
| micahg | I watch for new bugs though | 13:04 |
| asac2 | i guess thats smarter ;) | 13:04 |
| micahg | I guess I'm missing if something old gets flagged master or metabug | 13:05 |
| asac2 | yeah. i wanted to make my procmail rule to also move NEW bugmails to a special folder | 13:05 |
| asac2 | at some point i read everything | 13:06 |
| micahg | I jsut started filtering by newest first, but it's hard because you can't select multiple pacakges | 13:06 |
| asac2 | but i failed to spot some important bugs because i didnt spend enough time on each bug | 13:06 |
| micahg | I have 3 different tabs open, one fore each ff pacakge | 13:06 |
| micahg | yeah, that's gotta be hard | 13:06 |
| asac2 | so i stopped doing that ;) | 13:07 |
| micahg | yeah, the mozilla team is in charge of so many package | 13:08 |
| micahg | *packages | 13:08 |
| micahg | oh | 13:08 |
| micahg | I wanted to ask you, about firefox extensions | 13:08 |
| micahg | is the ff extensions project in lp used? | 13:08 |
| asac2 | yeah. we need someone to drive it ;) | 13:09 |
| asac2 | ff extension project is used | 13:09 |
| micahg | maybe one day... | 13:09 |
| micahg | ok | 13:09 |
| asac2 | all bzr branches are supposed to go there | 13:09 |
| micahg | I moved a bug there | 13:09 |
| asac2 | code.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions | 13:09 |
| micahg | but I didn't know if anyone used it | 13:09 |
| micahg | there was a request for pacakging | 13:09 |
| asac2 | the idea was that the mozilla-extensions-dev team and the ubuntu-mozillasquad watch the firefox-extensions bugs | 13:09 |
| asac2 | but i guess they are not | 13:09 |
| asac2 | but for packaging requests its the right project | 13:10 |
| asac2 | i think we even have that documented on the wiki as the preferred procedure | 13:10 |
| asac2 | fta: so we need to shuffle how we do the plugin/extension stuff a bit | 13:18 |
| asac2 | (and searchplugins) | 13:18 |
| asac2 | like, dont ship searchplugins in the firefox main packages | 13:19 |
| asac2 | because they are shared amongst different versions | 13:19 |
| micahg | yeah | 13:19 |
| micahg | we ran into that problem with ff3.5 | 13:20 |
| micahg | it's still an issue AFAIK | 13:20 |
| micahg | bug 383484 | 13:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 383484 in firefox-3.5 "search engine plugins missing in firefox-3.5 packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383484 | 13:21 |
| * micahg really needs sleep | 13:22 | |
| asac2 | micahg: you are _still_ awake? go to bed man ;) | 13:22 |
| micahg | yeah | 13:22 |
| micahg | ttyl | 13:22 |
| asac2 | sleep well | 13:22 |
| bmhm | still awake? | 13:26 |
| bmhm | it's 14pm :D | 13:26 |
| bmhm | err | 13:26 |
| bmhm | 2 pm | 13:26 |
| bmhm | ;-) | 13:26 |
| bmhm | asac, do you have any idea what can be done about global menu which crashes firefox? | 14:13 |
| bmhm | the mozilla dev team doesn't want to fix anything related to this | 14:14 |
| asac2 | bmhm: micahg is in US | 14:23 |
| bmhm | I know - haven't you seen my smiley? | 14:23 |
| asac2 | ok ;) | 14:23 |
| bmhm | hehe | 14:23 |
| bmhm | You know that I'm european by how I wrote the time: 14 o'clock :-) | 14:23 |
| asac2 | bmhm: do you know how this global menu is done; it wasnt obvious for me on first glance | 14:24 |
| asac2 | e.g. its a gtk-module as it seems | 14:24 |
| bmhm | it's a module, yes. | 14:24 |
| bmhm | loaded as panel applet | 14:24 |
| asac2 | does the process itself render the menu? | 14:24 |
| asac2 | or does it use Plug/Socket and the menu gets displayed by some other process? | 14:24 |
| bmhm | can't tell you right now - i got it disabled and I am about to leave for rowing | 14:24 |
| asac2 | have fun | 14:25 |
| bmhm | Maybe it's best to file a bug somewhere | 14:25 |
| bmhm | I can test this for you, if you like and have the time. | 14:25 |
| asac2 | yeah. i guess that should be done in global menu to get first evaluation. does code.google allow to subscribe someone to bugs? | 14:25 |
| asac2 | if so, please file a bug upstream and subscribe me: asac@jwsdot.com | 14:25 |
| bmhm | yes definitely | 14:25 |
| asac2 | thx | 14:26 |
| bmhm | there is already a bug, but development stopped | 14:26 |
| bmhm | they're looking for devs | 14:26 |
| asac2 | stopped == maintainer is unrespnsive? | 14:26 |
| asac2 | yeah. but maybe there is someone who has time to at least give us an idea whats wrong ;)= | 14:26 |
| bmhm | good point. If that fails, I got one on jabber | 14:27 |
| asac2 | anyway, we should file abug upstream | 14:27 |
| asac2 | even if its just us discussing there for now ;) | 14:27 |
| bmhm | I will link it to launchpad, if there is some valuable response | 14:27 |
| bmhm | got to go. see y'all and thanks so far! Very kind of you! | 14:28 |
| asac2 | remember to subscribe me upstream | 14:28 |
| asac2 | i dont read launchpad bugmail so much | 14:28 |
| bmhm | I did take a note | 14:28 |
| asac2 | too much ;) | 14:28 |
| asac2 | th | 14:28 |
| asac2 | x | 14:28 |
| asac2 | have fun | 14:28 |
| bmhm | you're welcome | 14:28 |
| bmhm | c u later | 14:29 |
| ericjung | is "apt-get install firefox-3.5" a valid means to install firefox 3.5 on jaunty? i did this, restarted firefox, but firefox still shows 3.0.11 in Help->About | 15:00 |
| andrew_sayers | ericjung: You should have a "Shiretoko" menu item, which runs 3.5. | 15:33 |
| andrew_sayers | And that fact should be mentioned on HUC :) | 15:33 |
| ericjung | andrew_sayers: indeed there is one, and i didn't see it. thanks | 15:57 |
| ericjung | andrew_sayers: but i've already screwed up my /usr/bin/firefox symlinks so now it no longer works | 15:57 |
| andrew_sayers | ericjung: firefox should link to firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0 should link to ../lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox.sh. If it's broken any worse than that, reinstall the firefox package. | 15:59 |
| andrew_sayers | If it's broken any worse than that, it's a support issue, and needs to go to a different channel. | 16:00 |
| ericjung | thanks | 16:00 |
| BUGabundo | fta: seems my tab probs with FF were some change with FF code and TMP | 16:42 |
| BUGabundo | I've reported it to TMP | 16:42 |
| bluekuja | asac, hi | 18:01 |
| bluekuja | asac, any news? | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo | hey bluekuja | 18:02 |
| bluekuja | hi :) | 18:02 |
| bluekuja | how is your weekend going? | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo | great | 18:06 |
| BUGabundo | had a great lug yesterday, and today am at friends house chating | 18:06 |
| BUGabundo | you ? | 18:06 |
| bluekuja | just went home from the sea | 18:07 |
| bluekuja | gonna go to gf's house soon | 18:07 |
| swtaarrs | is there a way to get official 64-bit builds of firefox 3.5 (not shiretoko), either from an apt repository or directly from mozilla? | 19:38 |
| BUGabundo | swtaarrs: ours are oficial | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | why wouldn't they be ? | 19:40 |
| swtaarrs | BUGabundo: well I meant branded as firefox instead of shiretoko | 19:41 |
| swtaarrs | since that confuses some extensions and websites | 19:42 |
| BUGabundo | addons should not be confused by it | 19:42 |
| BUGabundo | and websites, they are the bugs, if not checking for the proper signature | 19:42 |
| swtaarrs | I know that the real problem is with those websites, but regardless of all that, is there a way to get a 64-bit build branded as firefox? | 19:43 |
| BUGabundo | if you are so fanatic about it, get the one from mozilla site | 19:44 |
| BUGabundo | karmic will have a branded version soon | 19:44 |
| swtaarrs | I can only find 32 bit versions on the mozilla site, is there someone special I can look? | 19:45 |
| swtaarrs | somewhere* | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | I'm just an user | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | bbl | 19:48 |
| === ripps_ is now known as ripps | ||
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