=== asac_ is now known as asac [00:31] Hello big guys and gals :) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28382 [00:31] woops [00:31] wrong channel [00:32] lol [00:33] :P === Paddy_NI_ is now known as Paddy_NI === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [01:41] BUGabundo, encoding looks weird [01:41] BUGabundo, http://identi.ca/notice/6340526 [01:41] fta: nope! its just like that [01:41] its called punycode [01:42] some one decided to do µshort urls :) [01:42] i call that garbage, that's just unrecognized unicode characters [01:44] just finished watching enterprise, the series ending was disappointing :P [01:44] wfm [01:45] * asac returned being drunk [01:45] good night i guess ;) [01:45] asac: go to bed [01:45] we don't want drunk ppl here [01:45] hehe [01:46] there are enough bugs already [01:46] yeaj [01:46] humm typos already? [01:46] this is going to be fun [01:46] i cannot even type, so its probaby better ;) [01:46] bye [01:46] hehe .. yeah, this is genuine mistyping [01:46] I should follow you too [01:46] cu tomorrow [01:46] 2am [01:46] no 'cu' please. its ass in PT [01:47] :d === micahg1 is now known as micahg [06:40] Since some of the mozilla packages here use mercurial, I wanted to know if anybody using the latest version in Karmic has been having trouble getting `hg pull` to work. [06:42] * micahg doesn't build the packages and doesn't use karmic yet, sorry [06:43] Exception AttributeError: "'httprepository' object has no attribute 'urlopener'" in > ignored [06:48] ripps: have you tried multiple repos yet? [06:49] maybe that repo is undergoing maintenance [06:55] micahg: you might be right. I've tried to got bitbucket.com using my browser, and it doesn't work. [08:06] fta: hi [09:05] fta: I was interested in your o3d builds if you get back [10:33] happy sunday folks [10:34] EruditeHermit: you have it installed, or want to try o3d? [10:34] EruditeHermit: if you are looking for the sources: [10:34] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-webtech/o3d-daily/ubuntu karmic main [10:34] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-webtech/o3d-daily/ubuntu karmic main [10:34] it doesnt work for me [10:35] but thats because of driver issues [11:00] hi every1 [11:00] when I install 3.5 from repositories, I always get a sigfault. Any ideas? Or is this a known issue? [11:04] bmhm: do you have lots of extensions installed? [11:04] asac, yes. But I cannot even start with -safe-mode [11:04] bmhm: does it help if you move your $HOME/.mozilla to some backup directory before starting? [11:05] I'll try [11:05] (e.g. start with fresh profile) [11:07] asac, http://nopaste.info/ad553662a6.html [11:07] bmhm: yeah. that one is known [11:07] its a bug in X i think. but i couldnt track that down yet [11:07] some folks see it [11:07] some dont [11:07] I see. I'm on amd64 if that matters. [11:08] bmhm: is usually works better if you start it with --sync [11:08] bmhm: yeah. i see it on i386 too [11:08] --sync won't help. A pity :-( [11:09] bmhm: do you use desktop effects? [11:09] yes I do [11:09] maybe disabling them helps? [11:09] I'll try [11:09] (just to narrow this further down) [11:10] sure, I'd love to help where I can [11:10] i think i even saw it on this system - which never had desktop effect; but it happens less frequently here than on my compiz system for sure [11:10] asac, I just saw a window popping up, but still ending in a segfault [11:10] I have an idea [11:10] maybe it's my gnome globalmenu [11:10] bmhm: segfault? [11:11] segfault => segmentation fault [11:11] oh i see that you get a segfault on second run [11:11] only saw the x window error [11:11] bmhm: which driver are you using? [11:18] fta: which wifi driver are you using on NC10? [11:18] well I found the solution [11:18] 12:11 < asac> bmhm: which driver are you using? [11:18] the problem is indeed gnome globalmenu [11:18] hmm [11:18] what is that globalmenu? [11:19] a mac-like menu as gnome panel applet [11:19] i think the X error is less likely to happen if you just started X [11:19] I never saw it again [11:19] bmhm: so now it starts? [11:19] yes [11:20] I just had to disable the gnome globalmenu applet [11:20] bmhm: and you changed nothing else? [11:20] bmhm: can you do some stress tests and start firefox like 50 times ;)? [11:20] no [11:20] for sure [11:20] maybe also use other X apps a bitheavily before [11:20] asac, the issue might be known. I remember there was a fix for firefox [11:20] bmhm: how do i instlal the globalmenu? [11:20] and ff3.5 has another name [11:21] asac, there is a repository. Just a mo' [11:21] ah its not in the main archive? [11:21] no :( [11:21] the fix for firefox, or the globalmenu thing ;)? [11:22] well the fix was for global menu ;-) [11:22] any pointers to the firefox fix would be great [11:22] it's about XULs behaviour i think [11:22] also please give me the repo so i can poke it a bit [11:22] ok wait just a second [11:23] I was just recovering my profile [11:23] asac, if you speak german here is a howto I wrote: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Globalmenu [11:23] if you don't just fetch the launchpad URLs ;-) [11:24] bmhm: oh [11:24] does that thing rip out the menus from the apps? [11:24] yes exactly - all but firefox because of xul [11:25] so there was a crash with firefox 3.0 also, if I recall correctly [11:25] they fixed it by adding firefox' name to a static "do-not-touch"-list [11:25] i did something similar at some point ;) [11:25] and 3.5's name is not firefox [11:26] ok i see [11:27] http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/screenshots/newmobile/ [11:27] ;) [11:28] but the idea was to remove toolbars and menus [11:28] for full-screen wms for small/touch screens [11:28] woah [11:29] asac, that's my desktop how it looked like http://mampfit.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/globalmenu-nautilus.png [11:29] I don't use the macish theme any more [11:30] yeah [11:31] bmhm: i cannot find "firefox" anywhere in the upstream source [11:32] asac, I'm not exactly sure how they fixed it. I just know they did some kind of workaround. I will check out their bugtracker [11:33] firefox 3.5 feels good. Great work! [11:34] bmhm: thanks. if you have pointers to the patch they landed as a workaround that would be great [11:34] They patched globalmenu, not firefox [11:36] asac, I just found a bug related to the crash: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/issues/detail?id=371&can=1&q=firefox%20crash [11:37] flash? [11:37] so if you remove flash + nspluginwrapper does it work again? [11:38] I won't try :D [11:38] well [11:38] why not? [11:38] yes I will [11:38] good ;) [11:38] just give me a second [11:38] i dont think its the bug you are seeing. at least i didnt see the output from that bug [11:40] ok I am just starting ff [11:41] it totaly messed up all my settings [11:41] I need to re-login [11:41] brb [11:42] ok changed my nick as i changed the system [11:45] I get a segfault [11:46] I'm just looking for another location of my flash plugin [11:46] but I'm pretty sure it's globalmenu [11:46] brb [11:49] asac, removing flash won't help [12:06] olá e bom dia [12:07] fta: would this work for you ? http://twitfactory.com/ [12:07] standalone twitter/identi.ca client [12:07] Yo no hablo español. :) [12:07] cross-platform (Windows, Mac OS X and Linux) standalone application based on Mozilla xulrunner. [12:08] * BUGabundo slaps bmhm! [12:08] that was *NOT* Spanish [12:08] :d [12:08] XD [12:08] but something similar? portuguese? [12:10] yep [12:11] Wow, Tracemonkey rocks! [12:18] fta still not happy with gwibber now? ;) [12:26] asac2: can you look at bug 398143 [12:26] Launchpad bug 398143 in firefox-3.5 "Very low volume for Flash videos on Firefox 3.5" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398143 [12:26] I think it's just a setting in his audio controls [12:43] micahg: thats a question [12:43] imo [12:43] not a bug [12:44] so i would push the "convert to question button" [12:44] ok [12:44] I take it you concur it's a settings issue [12:44] yes [12:44] pretty sure ... or something else. [12:44] its a question until its a proper bug ;) [12:44] ok [12:49] asac2: is mozilla planning on keeping with the once a month approx security releases for 3.5? [12:49] i haven't heard about any change in that regard ... but i should probably check the security mailing list mbox again ;) [12:49] ok [12:50] I'm just wondering when to poke you about the ubufox pulling in ff3.0 on jaunty [12:50] you said you wouldn't make a special release for it [12:50] so the next security release makes sense [12:55] oh, asac2, can you look at bug 398121 [12:55] Launchpad bug 398121 in firefox-3.5 "firefox-3.5-gnome-support failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398121 [12:55] I installed the package without issue after I saw the bug [12:55] I updated teh description with the error from the log [12:56] hmm [12:57] thats probably a bug [12:57] please set to triaged with priority high and assign to me [12:57] I think I already had the file [12:57] will do [12:57] asac2: if it's assigned, shouldn't it be in progress? [12:58] no [12:58] in progress means that i started to work on it ;) [12:58] hmmm [12:58] but some might disagree [12:58] its a personal thing how to organize your task list [12:59] ok [12:59] i cannot look at "triaged" bugs to pick something because there are too many ;) [12:59] so assigning brings them in my short list ;) [12:59] the status wiki page says in progress must be assigned, not the other way around...so you're preference is fine with me :) [12:59] *your [12:59] well for ffox 3.5 its not a problem yet i guess [13:00] but if its assigned i also get the bugmail ;) [13:00] don't you get the bugmail anyways? [13:00] i get all yes [13:00] but i dont read everything [13:01] does it flag it differently if you're assigned? [13:02] yes my procmail rule moves it to my main inbox [13:02] :) [13:02] that works [13:03] assigned goes to inbox; subscribed to a high-prio mailbox; the rest somewhere else [13:03] I haven't subscribed to all mozilla bugs yet [13:03] It's hard enough for me to keep up with what I triage :) [13:03] subscribed == direct subscriptions [13:04] better dont subscribe to everything [13:04] you are already working really hard [13:04] at some point it becomes inefficient [13:04] if you are subscribed to firefox-3.0 its already more than most can handle [13:04] i'm not subscribed to all ff3.0 [13:04] just what I triage [13:04] I watch for new bugs though [13:04] i guess thats smarter ;) [13:05] I guess I'm missing if something old gets flagged master or metabug [13:05] yeah. i wanted to make my procmail rule to also move NEW bugmails to a special folder [13:06] at some point i read everything [13:06] I jsut started filtering by newest first, but it's hard because you can't select multiple pacakges [13:06] but i failed to spot some important bugs because i didnt spend enough time on each bug [13:06] I have 3 different tabs open, one fore each ff pacakge [13:06] yeah, that's gotta be hard [13:07] so i stopped doing that ;) [13:08] yeah, the mozilla team is in charge of so many package [13:08] *packages [13:08] oh [13:08] I wanted to ask you, about firefox extensions [13:08] is the ff extensions project in lp used? [13:09] yeah. we need someone to drive it ;) [13:09] ff extension project is used [13:09] maybe one day... [13:09] ok [13:09] all bzr branches are supposed to go there [13:09] I moved a bug there [13:09] code.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions [13:09] but I didn't know if anyone used it [13:09] there was a request for pacakging [13:09] the idea was that the mozilla-extensions-dev team and the ubuntu-mozillasquad watch the firefox-extensions bugs [13:09] but i guess they are not [13:10] but for packaging requests its the right project [13:10] i think we even have that documented on the wiki as the preferred procedure [13:18] fta: so we need to shuffle how we do the plugin/extension stuff a bit [13:18] (and searchplugins) [13:19] like, dont ship searchplugins in the firefox main packages [13:19] because they are shared amongst different versions [13:19] yeah [13:20] we ran into that problem with ff3.5 [13:20] it's still an issue AFAIK [13:21] bug 383484 [13:21] Launchpad bug 383484 in firefox-3.5 "search engine plugins missing in firefox-3.5 packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383484 [13:22] * micahg really needs sleep [13:22] micahg: you are _still_ awake? go to bed man ;) [13:22] yeah [13:22] ttyl [13:22] sleep well [13:26] still awake? [13:26] it's 14pm :D [13:26] err [13:26] 2 pm [13:26] ;-) [14:13] asac, do you have any idea what can be done about global menu which crashes firefox? [14:14] the mozilla dev team doesn't want to fix anything related to this [14:23] bmhm: micahg is in US [14:23] I know - haven't you seen my smiley? [14:23] ok ;) [14:23] hehe [14:23] You know that I'm european by how I wrote the time: 14 o'clock :-) [14:24] bmhm: do you know how this global menu is done; it wasnt obvious for me on first glance [14:24] e.g. its a gtk-module as it seems [14:24] it's a module, yes. [14:24] loaded as panel applet [14:24] does the process itself render the menu? [14:24] or does it use Plug/Socket and the menu gets displayed by some other process? [14:24] can't tell you right now - i got it disabled and I am about to leave for rowing [14:25] have fun [14:25] Maybe it's best to file a bug somewhere [14:25] I can test this for you, if you like and have the time. [14:25] yeah. i guess that should be done in global menu to get first evaluation. does code.google allow to subscribe someone to bugs? [14:25] if so, please file a bug upstream and subscribe me: asac@jwsdot.com [14:25] yes definitely [14:26] thx [14:26] there is already a bug, but development stopped [14:26] they're looking for devs [14:26] stopped == maintainer is unrespnsive? [14:26] yeah. but maybe there is someone who has time to at least give us an idea whats wrong ;)= [14:27] good point. If that fails, I got one on jabber [14:27] anyway, we should file abug upstream [14:27] even if its just us discussing there for now ;) [14:27] I will link it to launchpad, if there is some valuable response [14:28] got to go. see y'all and thanks so far! Very kind of you! [14:28] remember to subscribe me upstream [14:28] i dont read launchpad bugmail so much [14:28] I did take a note [14:28] too much ;) [14:28] th [14:28] x [14:28] have fun [14:28] you're welcome [14:29] c u later [15:00] is "apt-get install firefox-3.5" a valid means to install firefox 3.5 on jaunty? i did this, restarted firefox, but firefox still shows 3.0.11 in Help->About [15:33] ericjung: You should have a "Shiretoko" menu item, which runs 3.5. [15:33] And that fact should be mentioned on HUC :) [15:57] andrew_sayers: indeed there is one, and i didn't see it. thanks [15:57] andrew_sayers: but i've already screwed up my /usr/bin/firefox symlinks so now it no longer works [15:59] ericjung: firefox should link to firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0 should link to ../lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox.sh. If it's broken any worse than that, reinstall the firefox package. [16:00] If it's broken any worse than that, it's a support issue, and needs to go to a different channel. [16:00] thanks [16:42] fta: seems my tab probs with FF were some change with FF code and TMP [16:42] I've reported it to TMP [18:01] asac, hi [18:02] asac, any news? [18:02] hey bluekuja [18:02] hi :) [18:02] how is your weekend going? [18:06] great [18:06] had a great lug yesterday, and today am at friends house chating [18:06] you ? [18:07] just went home from the sea [18:07] gonna go to gf's house soon [19:38] is there a way to get official 64-bit builds of firefox 3.5 (not shiretoko), either from an apt repository or directly from mozilla? [19:39] swtaarrs: ours are oficial [19:40] why wouldn't they be ? [19:41] BUGabundo: well I meant branded as firefox instead of shiretoko [19:42] since that confuses some extensions and websites [19:42] addons should not be confused by it [19:42] and websites, they are the bugs, if not checking for the proper signature [19:43] I know that the real problem is with those websites, but regardless of all that, is there a way to get a 64-bit build branded as firefox? [19:44] if you are so fanatic about it, get the one from mozilla site [19:44] karmic will have a branded version soon [19:45] I can only find 32 bit versions on the mozilla site, is there someone special I can look? [19:45] somewhere* [19:46] no idea [19:46] I'm just an user [19:48] bbl === ripps_ is now known as ripps