[00:09] <Speedy059x> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop and installed VNC - But when I log into the server all I get is a command prompt and a black/white background. Has anyone ever run into this?
[00:10] <ScottK> Speedy059x: Your on Hardy?
[00:10] <Speedy059x> jaunty
[00:10] <ScottK> OK.  Well for Jaunty, just use kubuntu-desktop.
[00:10] <Speedy059x> I did
[00:10] <Speedy059x> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[00:10] <Speedy059x> then I install vnc
[00:11] <Speedy059x> I tried installing kubuntu separate from KDE as well
[00:11] <Speedy059x> still the same strange results
[00:11] <ScottK> Note the difference between what I said to use and what you said you used.  I doubt it makes a difference, but it's a place to start.
[00:11] <Speedy059x> I think it's the same, but regardless I tried both when I installed kubuntu-desktop and kde separatel
[00:13] <ScottK> I've never tried VNC, so no idea if it works.
[00:14] <Speedy059x> first time as well...CentOS it's easy to install but i'm not to familiar with Ubuntu
[00:14] <Speedy059x> I thought Ubuntu was more GUI like that CentOS, thought it would be easier ;)
[00:14] <Speedy059x> than centos*
[00:15] <ScottK> Not servers.
[00:15] <ScottK> We do have ebox for GUI like server management, but no real GUI (by design).
[00:17] <Nafallo> !ebox
[00:17] <Nafallo> :-)
[00:33] <jaredster> ubottu
[00:33] <jaredster> i might try ebox
[00:33] <jaredster> is it easy to install?
[00:33] <jaredster> and can I install it over ssh?
[00:58] <jaredster> what do you think Nafallo
[00:58] <Nafallo> jaredster: I've never used ebox
[00:58] <jaredster> alright
[01:45] <fenix_br> the time to run the command smbldap-populate, shows the error "failed to add entry: objectClass: value #4 invalid per syntax at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 499, <GEN1> line 87."
[01:46] <quizme> does anybody know why only one vhost would work ?  the 2nd, 3rd and vhost conf files are being ignored.
[01:50] <Speedy059x> When I install kubuntu-desktop with VNCServer....I login via vnc and all I see is command prompt terminal and all black/white and a big X for a cursor..any ideas?
[02:00] <fbc-mx> How can I limit my apache server resources?
[02:02] <fenix_br> please help me I could adois days trying to solve an error "failed to add entry: objectClass: value #4 invalid per syntax at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 499, <GEN1> line 87." the time to run the command smbldap-populate
[02:03] <fbc-mx> My ubuntu server on weekends(heavy loads) ocasionally locks up. How can I limit the apache resources? Right now in my apache.conf I have 2 servers with 1000 connections. Should I try trimming it down to 500 connections?
[02:07] <mattt> fbc-mx: what's your MaxClients set to?
[02:08] <fbc-mx> mattt, can't tell right now cuz my machine won't respond to ssh in this state. I've already emailed the host provider to reboot my machine.
[02:08] <fbc-mx> mattt, waiting for it to come back on line.
[02:08] <mattt> fbc-mx: ok ... limit MaxClients, and if you're using MySQL limit max_connections
[02:09] <mattt> fbc-mx: setting these too high can cause problems like this
[02:09] <fbc-mx> ok, so I can control resources by controlling both of those parameters.. kewl... can't wait to start optimizing the server.
[02:10] <fbc-mx> mattt, I also have to see find out if joomla uses one DB connection per user or uses only one connection.
[02:10] <mattt> fbc-mx: for some stock standard mysql optimizations, have a look at http://mysqltuner.pl/mysqltuner.pl
[02:11] <mattt> fbc-mx: not sure, i guess that's if PHP is configured to permit persistent connections?
[02:11] <fenix_br> anyone has idea? about the error that I am having difficulty
[02:13] <fbc-mx> fenix_br,  your samba is configured to pull from an ldap database.. I'm not too familiar with that setup.. I usually do everything from within the smb.conf file.
[02:14] <fbc-mx> fenix_br, the few times I've had to do somethign like that I've used ebox... its free and easy to manage samba shares with an ldap database. It creates it all for you..
[02:15] <fbc-mx> fenix_br, sudo apt-get install ebox (in case your interested)
[02:16] <fbc-mx> fenix_br, has modular plugins for just about everything.
[02:17] <fbc-mx> mattt, thanks. this script looks awesome... I'm gonna give it a go when my server comes back up.
[02:18] <fenix_br> fbc-mx: I try very much for your help!
[02:19] <fbc-mx> fenix_br, no prob.
[02:20] <fenix_br> fbc-mx: tranks
[02:21] <fbc-mx> fenix_br, obrigado! (I think that means your welcome. Not sure hehe)
[02:38] <quizme> are all computers made in 2009 64 bit ?
[02:45] <fbc-mx> quizme, well most budget pc's and laptops aren't. No netbook class machines are either.
[03:27] <quentusrex> can someone give me a hand with openldap and tls certs?
[03:27] <quentusrex> I have generated my certs, and it fails.
[03:27] <quentusrex> I have generated testing certs, and it works
[03:27] <quentusrex> it seems to have the problem with the cacert
[04:13] <quentusrex> Does anyone know why openldap was compiled against gnutls rather than openssl???
[04:13] <quentusrex> gnutls can't read some of my openssl generated certs :(
[04:14] <ScottK> quentusrex: Usually it's for license reasons.
[04:14] <quentusrex> but openssl is already distributed.
[04:14] <quizme> fbc-mx k thanks
[04:15] <fbc-mx> quizme, np :-)
[04:15] <quentusrex> I have generated a 4096 CA key for signing all of my server keys, and gnutls can't handle it...
[04:15] <ScottK> The usual problem is that the openssl isn't GPL compatible so GPL software can't link against it without a special exception.
[04:15] <quentusrex> :(
[04:16] <ScottK> I don't know for sure if that's the case here, but that's the usual reason.
[04:16] <quentusrex> ok
[04:23] <quentusrex> ScottK any idea how to check to see if gnutls can handle the certs?
[04:24] <ScottK> Nope.  Sorry.  I'd guess review their documentation.
[04:42] <fbc-mx> mattt, still there?
[04:44] <fbc-mx> mattt, Here is the pastebin.. http://pastebin.ca/1492280
[05:39] <fbc-mx> anyone know of an apache tuning script?
[05:46] <robertr994> I'm running 8.04 64bit  on a AMD64 with 4 gigs ram  error log here http://www.kwtfstudio.com/1/error   Running apache , php5 and mysql.  locks up when Im not on the machine
[06:10] <fbc-mx> robertr994,  I have the same problem... it even stops responding to ssh?
[06:10] <robertr994> yep
[06:10] <fbc-mx> robertr994, got what you need.
[06:10] <robertr994> I may have stumbled on the issue,  hibernation
[06:11] <fbc-mx> robertr994, use this script to optimze youy mysql usage http://mysqltuner.pl/mysqltuner.pl
[06:11] <fbc-mx> robertr994, hib on a server??
[06:11] <fbc-mx> robertr994, my issue was that I had really heavy usage.. I mean like close to 1000 simultaneous users...
[06:12] <robertr994> my traffic isnt that high
[06:12] <fbc-mx> robertr994,  if you don't have than, then yes, your prob might be hibernation.
[06:12] <robertr994> has to do with the screensaver,  when I go back to the desktop
[06:13] <robertr994> drops at that time
[06:13] <fbc-mx> robertr994, your running a gui on your server??
[06:13] <robertr994> running a shoutcast server
[06:13] <robertr994> and website
[06:14] <robertr994> thats all
[06:14] <fbc-mx> robertr994,  shoutcast server should need a client connected to it full time...
[06:14] <robertr994> no special programs, I dont even browse the net
[06:14] <robertr994> its connected full time
[06:15] <robertr994> www.kwtfstudio.com:8010
[06:15] <fbc-mx> robertr994, you might want to do a ALT-CTL-F1 and login and type "sudo service gdm stop" see it the server dies after that. if it doesn't then it's an issue with your gui.
[06:17] <robertr994> ok I'll try that
[06:17] <fbc-mx> robertr994, as far as the gui is concerned. I guess you should go to preferences>>power managmenet and set everything to NEVER.
[06:18] <robertr994> I did that a few minutes ago
[06:18] <robertr994> Im new to linux,  been using windows servers for yrs
[06:19] <robertr994> got pissed at windows tuesday morning and installed 8.04
[06:19] <robertr994> love the way this machine runs on it
[06:20] <robertr994> ALT-CTL-F1  I'll try after this radio show is over
[06:20] <fbc-mx> robertr994, a rough way to disale hibernation could be to rename /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh to something else then "touch /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh"
[06:21] <fbc-mx> robertr994, to create an empty file. Definitely not an elegant way to do it though.
[06:21] <robertr994> ok
[06:21] <fbc-mx> robertr994, good luck!
[06:22] <robertr994> this runs great as long as Im on it  lol
[06:22] <fbc-mx> robertr994,  here's another more elegant way of doing it through the gconf editor http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440225
[06:23] <fbc-mx> robertr994, you may not have to reboot with that last solution... just log out and log back in, but I would reboot anyways to remove all doubt.
[06:24] <robertr994> ok cool,  thanks
[06:26] <robertr994> have a great weekend
[06:26] <fbc-mx> robertr994, No prob.. How that helps you out. I know how stressing it can be to have a server acting up.
[06:27] <fbc-mx> OMG, I might have actually helped someone..
[06:28]  * fbc-mx pats himself on the back!
[06:28] <jon_high9000> I have a question regarding to ubuntu-server ubuntu 9.04.
[06:28] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, OK hit me with it..
[06:30] <jon_high9000> fbx-mx: I installed the server portion tonight mainly to setup a mail server. i am a newbie. way i setup the desktop and server  they are on separate partitions.
[06:31] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000,  why would you do somethign like that for?
[06:33] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, You can add a gui to the server version if you really wanted to. All you had to do once you had the server version installed was type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it would have done it for you.
[06:33] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: Purpose of the mail server is to retrieve mail from my gmail account using fetchmail dovecot and possibly postfix. main use is mainly for retrieval of email.
[06:34] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, yes but you can't be running both versions at the same time.. you'd either have to boot up as a server or as a desktop version.. If you did that then the server would never be up for the desktop version to retrieve the email from it. Kinda defeating the assumed putpose.
[06:36] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: i read somewhere you can use the sudo -s command and assign the same password using passwd
[06:37] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, I'd back up any data and reinstall it just as a server.. and add the gui so that you can get around it.
[06:37] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: this is to add the server to the desktop
[06:37] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: ok
[06:38] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, yes you can sync the password files from one partition to the other, I still don't get the functionality.
[06:38] <fbc-mx> If you want the best of both worlds as in a server with a gui.. just reinstall it as a server, then add the gui..
[06:39] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, I mean, if you really get used to using the command-line like you really should to control and manage a server, you can remove the ubuntu-desktop package and run an autoremove, and I think it might clean the gui off the server for you.
[06:41] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: as i said earlier, i`m a newbie. just starting out. getting my feet wet as it were.
[06:43] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: been tinkering around trying to setup fetchmail to retrieve my email on gmail
[06:43] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000,  They make pretty good books on ubuntu. I was a linux newbie but only a year ago, then I read a bunch on linux and ubuntu books.
[06:44] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx that was on ubuntu-desktop however
[06:44] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, why wouldn't you want to retrieve your email with say Thunderbird for example
[06:46] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000,  you could put your server in the DMZ of your router and setup DDNS and have gmail forward your mail to your ddns user@ddns-domain.com.
[06:46] <jon_high9000> i could. but i get a lot of email and i want to find a faster way to retrieve my mail. mainly so i don`t get cut off by gmail when downloading my email.
[06:48] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, might save you alot of trouble and having to learn to configure dovecot, fetchmail at such an advanced level. You'd only need to learn how to create a mailbox and configure ddns and your router. Much easier that learing to configure mail and mail packages, that's for sure.
[06:48] <jon_high9000> fbc-mx: i have a wireless router. wireless part (non-functional)
[06:48] <jon_high9000> with ubuntu i mean
[06:49] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000, nothing wrong with that. As long as your internet provider assigns a public ip to your router you can pass it along to your machine and program it to act as a full fledged mail server.
[06:52] <fbc-mx> jon_high9000,  almost 1am here in Mexico City. A little past my bed time. I hope someone else in the channel can pick up where I left off.  Good luck.
[06:52] <jon_high9000> no prob. thanks for your hlep
[06:52] <jon_high9000> hlep
[06:53] <jon_high9000> help
[07:13] <Byron> !monit
[07:13] <Byron> Can someone help me with the configuration of monit. I want to make sure that I will receive the alerts if something should happen on the server.
[07:14] <Byron> I've followed the directions and I disabled SSH. Within 2 minutes, monit had restarted ssh. I just want to be sure I'll get the notifications.
[07:51] <Byron> !mail
[08:42] <achew22> I've set up KVM on a ubuntu 8.10 server and on connecting to it with my laptop (ubuntu 9.04) it won't let me do paraviartulization (sp?) or let me install from a network source. I don't mind not having paravirt but I would like to be able to install by pulling iso's over the internet. Does anyone have any idea how to enable that?
[15:09] <_ruben> hmm .. got a really strange issue with encrypted homedir on my server .. if im not logged in, i cant log in using my key (cant find it apparently) .. when im logged in, and my home is mounted, it does find my key
[15:11] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me identify the problem, i just followed this tutorial on setting up bind9 but it wont startup, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p4, under heading DNS server?
[15:11] <_ruben> what do the logs say?
[15:13] <Pirate_Hunter> where would i find the log
[15:14] <_ruben> in /var/log .. most likely /var/log/daemon.log
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> _ruben,  its is syslog goign to put it in pastbin
[15:16] <Pirate_Hunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/216255/
[15:16] <Pirate_Hunter> its all absed on that tut yet why it doesnt work i dont know
[15:16] <Pirate_Hunter> based*
[15:17] <Pirate_Hunter> any ideas?
[15:24] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here care to help me with my problem
[15:26] <TeLLuS> Pirate_Hunter: Fix owner or chmod. named[6110]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: permission denied
[15:28] <Pirate_Hunter> TeLLuS, thanx for the reply what would the ownership be i.e. chomd bind9 6610 (as it is how i named)
[15:36] <Pirate_Hunter> TeLLuS, sorry i dont get how to go about changing/fixing the ownership through cli, how would i go about doing so
[15:36] <Pirate_Hunter> what ownership does it need
[15:38] <mobi-sheep> If it's in /etc/  It should be owned by root.  My guess.
[15:40] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: What does "sudo ls -l /etc/bind/named.conf" say?
[15:41] <Pirate_Hunter> -rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 907 2009-01-08 01:28 /etc/bind/named.conf
[15:42] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, -rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 907 2009-01-08 01:28 /etc/bind/named.conf
[15:44] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Try "sudo chown root:root /etc/bind/named.conf"  (I never messed around with server stuffs before).
[15:46] <Pirate_Hunter> not sure but based on this tutorial, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p4, i think bind9 isnt supposed to run as root but unprivildge to the user running it, if thats the case would i just choose the users i want it to run as because root would be automatic. grrr this was supposed to make setting a server easy
[15:46] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: sudo ls -l /etc/bind/* --> Bunch of files owned by bind bind?
[15:48] <Pirate_Hunter> yeah they are are all owned by bind:bind maybe i should create that group and add myself in it that could work
[15:49] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, i just followed the tut the way they wrote it didnt think bind:bind an actual group that they might have will try making it
[15:49] <mobi-sheep> "groups" will display the groups you're in.
[15:51] <mobi-sheep> Just because the site have "how to" in the name does not necessarily mean they know how to.
[15:51] <mobi-sheep> :o
[15:55] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, yah but i wouldve expect that they would mention something i have just added root and my user to that bind group which already existed will see how things go now
[15:55] <Pirate_Hunter> grrrrr this was supposed to be an easy to follow tut
[15:57] <mobi-sheep> Gonna avoid HowToForge now? :)
[15:59] <mobi-sheep> Well.  Good luck either way.
[15:59] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, hahahaha yeah for sure, i would advise it, still it wont start im in that group yet permission is still denied hmmmm
[16:00] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Try root.
[16:00] <mobi-sheep> You can change back to bind:bind later.
[16:00] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, yah will do so will mess with this might break it even more grrrr
[16:00] <mobi-sheep> The nice people here probably are giggling at the moment.
[16:03] <Pirate_Hunter> yah most likely except why the **** is /etc/bind freaking root:root when it is a symlink I dont get how things like that can happen
[16:12] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, done well that was a new experience, not one much enjoyed no wonder most stay with the desktop
[16:12] <mobi-sheep> What did you do to resolve it?
[16:12] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Servers -- Not something that everybody would need.  Home server is a nice bonus though.
[16:14] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, the permission is now correct just need to find out why it isn't working i bet if i was using desktop this woulve been quick still will pay-off in the end, I hope 0.o'
[16:14] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Desktop == No GUI.  And you increase your l33t points.
[16:15] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: I used XBMC on my home server though.  Ridiculously awesome.
[16:16] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, at this point forget the l33t points just want to get it working :/ and XBMC?
[16:16] <mobi-sheep> I'll get you a  clip.
[16:16] <Pirate_Hunter> ok
[16:16] <Pirate_Hunter> ill still be here for a while
[16:19] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter:  Site --> http://xbmc.org/   Video --> http://tinyurl.com/nj88vo.  I built it from minimal disc.   Not using it on Desktop (Although you can).  Hooked up to 46" TV + Sound via HDMI.
[16:20] <Pirate_Hunter> well break time i guess will check it out now
[16:20] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, vedo dont work
[16:20] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Flash?
[16:22] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Well.  Gotta go.  Shower.
[16:23] <Pirate_Hunter> kk
[16:56] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, yeah got it working apparmor was the cause of it not me and my server newbness just plain dumb apparmor
[17:07] <mobi-sheep> !info apparmor
[17:08] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: Ahh I see.
[17:08] <mobi-sheep> Pirate_Hunter: "AppArmor proactively protects the system from security threats, both internal and external. It enforce the applications to only be able to access resources aimed to be accessed by the application. In this way the system is protected to both known and unknown threats.
[17:08] <mobi-sheep> For each application we want to protect or increase the security around, a security profile is created. The profile describes what files or devices the application is allowed to read, write and/or execute.'
[17:09] <mobi-sheep> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[17:09] <mobi-sheep> Interesting!
[17:09] <Pirate_Hunter> mobi-sheep, yeah but its a pain in the neck when it makes things not work that should work, however, i do understand how useful it might be
[18:34] <KillMeNow[A]> i've never gotten apparmor to work properly
[18:34]  * KillMeNow is no longer away : Gone for 1 day 18 hours 37 minutes 49 seconds
[20:21] <howie> when i log into my server it gives me load avg and # of system process and #users ect.. is there a cmd to show that at will?
[20:24] <J_5> howie: try the command top
[20:25] <howie> that works but its there a way to get just whats at the top not all the pid users
[20:27] <howie> looking for just this :System load: 0.0                Memory usage: 12%   Processes:       129 Usage of /:  0.7% of 219.58GB   Swap usage:   0%    Users logged in: 1
[20:30] <J_5> I think you can with top, not sure of the command tho
[20:31] <howie> ok cool i just man it
[20:31] <J_5> try man top. That give you the information on top and what you can do with it
[20:31] <J_5> :)
[20:31] <J_5> or, it slow now. Maybe someone will come along and tell us in a while
[20:32] <J_5> it's *
[20:32] <howie> ya
[22:01] <billybigrigger_> can someone give me a another option for apache log analysis
[22:01] <billybigrigger_> im using webalizer and awstats
[22:02] <billybigrigger_> both just don't seem to want to keep my stats combined
[22:02] <billybigrigger_> i've had this server for almost a month now and webalizer only keeps logs for a few days
[22:02] <billybigrigger_> and awstats is now skipping weeks of logs
[22:10] <Pirate_Hunter> whats the the package called for compiling stuff in ubuntu
[22:10] <Pirate_Hunter> oops
[22:13] <KillMeNow> If i recall, there is a new opensource project called "OpenXchange" that does web analytics
[22:13] <KillMeNow> otherwise use google analytics
[23:47] <gletob> I can't get the Ubuntu server cd to boot
[23:48] <gletob> I see the message where it looks for the boot record on CDROM but it says not found
[23:49] <KillMeNow> gletob:  either you got a coaster for a CD rom, or the cd rom you have in the server doesn't like burned CD's cause it's old
[23:50] <gletob> KillMeNow, It let me boot from a burned XP cd
[23:51] <gletob> KillMeNow, and the SHA1SUM matches on the ISO
[23:52] <gletob> ?
[23:53] <KillMeNow> gletob:  Try burning another one from the ISO you downloaded, but in my experience either the CD you have now is a coaster or the CDRom doesn't like the one you have
[23:53] <gletob> KillMeNow, Ok after 20 times turning the PC on and off it's booting from the cd
[23:53] <KillMeNow> woot!
[23:53] <KillMeNow> strange, but woot
[23:53]  * KillMeNow[A] is now away - Reason : Gone away for a while
[23:53] <gletob> It's an old crotchety computer.
[23:54] <gletob> AMD K6 333 Mhz
[23:54] <gletob> ATI 3D RAGE IIc with 4mb SDRAM
[23:54] <gletob> 160 MB of DDR? I guess
[23:55] <gletob> had windows 98
[23:55] <gletob> so far so good
[23:55] <gletob> I have a choose language screen!
[23:57] <billybigrigger_> 9.04 server?