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| SiDi | had a nice meal MacSlow ? :D | 14:11 |
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| SiDi | (more seriously, is it ok if i replace all the gconf keys by xfconf keys in the xfce version of notify-osd ?) | 14:13 |
| macvr | djsiegel_: i think this should be looked into for karmic > https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/388866 | 14:47 |
| djsiegel_ | macvr: too big to be a paper cut | 14:47 |
| macvr | djsiegel_: ah... maybe ayatana then? | 14:48 |
| djsiegel_ | macvr: well... | 14:48 |
| djsiegel_ | macvr: I would assign to the "applets" that open twice | 14:48 |
| djsiegel_ | and they aren't applets | 14:48 |
| macvr | yeah not applets | 14:48 |
| macvr | djsiegel_: what about the rewording of the update window? | 14:52 |
| macvr | dialogue? | 14:52 |
| djsiegel_ | macvr: haven't had time to check it out because of GUADEC | 14:52 |
| djsiegel_ | I will blog about round-2 today | 14:52 |
| macvr | oh... you are still there... ok | 14:52 |
| djsiegel_ | and tie up loose ends, and get the design team to check our round-3 | 14:53 |
| djsiegel_ | no, got back this weekend | 14:53 |
| djsiegel_ | macvr: for some paper cut relief, http://davidsiegel.org/karmic-backgrounds-contest/ | 14:53 |
| macvr | djsiegel_: i'm in the art section, i know about that ;p | 14:54 |
| djsiegel_ | great | 14:54 |
| djsiegel_ | the art section? | 14:54 |
| macvr | artwork discussions mailing list | 14:55 |
| macvr | djsiegel_: i told you about adding to the wiki , the hardware issues are not papercuts.> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/250211 ,got hounded here | 14:57 |
| macvr | finally i added a note to the wiki, ;p | 14:58 |
| DBO | ping njpatel | 15:28 |
| kholerabbi1 | will karmic autologin by default? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398720) | 16:57 |
| lamalex | i doubt it | 16:58 |
| macvr | kholerabbi1: actually i think you got it mixed up with the auto login of grub | 18:14 |
| kholerabbi1 | undoubtedly | 18:14 |
| kholerabbi1 | night :) | 18:17 |
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| macvr | djsiegel: nothing was actually fixed here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/393645 | 20:04 |
| macvr | whatever changed, was not done by the papercuts task, it already existed... | 20:06 |
| djsiegel | macvr: that's fine | 20:20 |
| djsiegel | macvr: what counts is that the paper cut was fixed | 20:20 |
| djsiegel | it doesn't matter who fixed it, how, or when, as long as the paper cut is healed | 20:20 |
| macvr | not fair... ;p | 20:21 |
| djsiegel | Why? | 20:21 |
| macvr | how can something be fixed when the problem didnt exist when we got there? | 20:21 |
| djsiegel | the problem existed in Jaunty | 20:21 |
| djsiegel | it is gone in Karmic | 20:22 |
| djsiegel | therefore, a paper cut was fixed | 20:22 |
| ScottK | It would be prudent not to take too much credit for it, however. | 20:22 |
| djsiegel | Who is taking credit for it? | 20:22 |
| macvr | it like a plumber claiming to have fixed a leaking pipe, because the water supply was turned off before he got there ;p | 20:23 |
| ScottK | Hopefully not the papercuts project. | 20:23 |
| djsiegel | My concern is that we have a list of 100 usability problems that should be problems no more in Karmic | 20:23 |
| djsiegel | If a genie fixes them magically overnight, great | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Agreed. | 20:24 |
| djsiegel | if they get fixed upstream, wonderful | 20:24 |
| djsiegel | I will be sure to mention the multiple sources of fixes in the final report | 20:24 |
| ScottK | As long as it's "Yeah, look what got done" and not "Yeah, look what we did" it's fine. | 20:24 |
| djsiegel | yeah, I agree | 20:25 |
| djsiegel | "look at what got done" is always the best route when many people are working on the same set of problems, I've found | 20:25 |
| macvr | yeah as long as credit goes to the person who fixed it , its nice :) | 20:25 |
| djsiegel | With my upstream work, if a blogger or journalist singles me out and gives me credit for something that came out of my project, I usually email them and ask them to attribute the team and all contributors instead of me as maintainer | 20:26 |
| djsiegel | even if I wrote and committed the fix in question | 20:26 |
| djsiegel | just keeps everyone equally motivated | 20:27 |
| djsiegel | and at the end of the day, there is no credit because the sun will swallow the earth and all minds, records, digital information will burn up :) | 20:27 |
| ScottK | Yes, but it'll be on youtube. | 20:29 |
| macvr | lol | 20:29 |
| djsiegel | ah, and the radio waves that leak out into space | 20:30 |
| djsiegel | forgot about those buggers | 20:30 |
| djsiegel | and airplane black boxes | 20:30 |
| djsiegel | pretty sure they are sun-proof | 20:30 |
| macvr | djsiegel: IMO , i think it would be much better , when all task are done because they where first identified in papercuts, we could take more pride in that | 20:30 |
| djsiegel | macvr: ok, that can be a goal for the next cycle | 20:31 |
| macvr | +1 | 20:31 |
| djsiegel | but for these first few milestones, we're just getting the papercutters team together | 20:31 |
| danrabbit | djsiegel: I was just reading the "Home Folder" debate. I agree with your proposal. It makes the most sense in translation and it makes the most sense to be consistent with the filesystem | 20:33 |
| djsiegel | danrabbit! | 20:34 |
| djsiegel | Nice to see you. | 20:34 |
| danrabbit | I've been lurking :D | 20:34 |
| djsiegel | Did you see jono's blog on notification areas for dark themes? | 20:34 |
| djsiegel | danrabbit: and please email Ken back. | 20:35 |
| danrabbit | no, can you link me? | 20:35 |
| danrabbit | Yea, no problem. I actually haven't checked my email this morning :D | 20:35 |
| djsiegel | danrabbit: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/07/12/icon-theme-hacking-progress/ | 20:37 |
| danrabbit | thanks | 20:37 |
| SiDi | ScottK: ping | 20:38 |
| ScottK | SiDi: Pong | 20:39 |
| danrabbit | djsiegel: did you read Ulisse's response? | 20:40 |
| SiDi | ScottK: do you mind reexplaining me whats going on about dontzap please ? :) | 20:41 |
| ScottK | SiDi: dontzap no longer works due to changes in X, but at least Gnome and KDE use the libxklavier (or whatever it was) to control it via a normal keyboard setting. | 20:43 |
| ScottK | So from a Ubuntu/Kubuntu perspective, dontzap can go away (we've already dropped the GUI for it in Kubuntu). | 20:43 |
| SiDi | i had a look at xklavier and i didnt even understand what it was | 20:43 |
| * ScottK neither. | 20:43 | |
| SiDi | if dontzap no longer works then it should go anyway | 20:43 |
| SiDi | but there should be a documented CLI way to revert the dontzap setting | 20:44 |
| * ScottK was parroting what others said. | 20:44 | |
| ScottK | If there's no GUI, sure. | 20:44 |
| SiDi | do you know who are these others by chance ? :) | 20:44 |
| ScottK | My suggestion is to chat with tseliot in #ubuntu-x about it. | 20:44 |
| SiDi | (xu/lu/flubuntu wont have a GUI indeed. same for openbox and such) | 20:44 |
| SiDi | hm i'll try to catch him there later then | 20:45 |
| SiDi | he seems offline | 20:45 |
| ScottK | Right, well since Kubuntu often gets left out, I wanted to make sure you guys knew and the same didn't happen to you. | 20:45 |
| SiDi | thanks for letting us know though, its nice from you | 20:46 |
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