| kklimonda | hmm.. Ademan: you could ask doko (Matthias Klose) about status of Eclipse in Debian/Ubuntu. I can see that he has done some work 2 weeks ago in package's repository | 00:00 |
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| billybigrigger_ | if the package is in debian unstable you can file a merge request | 00:01 |
| kklimonda | it isn't | 00:01 |
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| Protector1981 | anyone has this problem? http://protector.pastebin.com/m746e0093 | 00:28 |
| veck | any wat to configure ubuntu specificly for my machinr? | 02:26 |
| veck | cannot remeber what its called but it is done through terminal? | 02:27 |
| syn-ack | Good evening | 04:15 |
| syn-ack | question... which kernel version has been decided upon for the freeze? | 04:17 |
| RAOF | We currently have 2.6.31. I believe that is the version we plan to ship. | 04:19 |
| rww | Yeah, I've heard 2.6.31 too. | 04:19 |
| RAOF | There's a page on the Ubuntu wiki about it if you want something official. | 04:20 |
| syn-ack | ah, ok, the last I had heard they wernt sure if it was going to .31 or .32 so I figured I would ask | 04:20 |
| * DanaG wonders when 2.3.31-rc3 will be. | 04:26 | |
| DanaG | http://osdir.com/ml/linux-kernel/2009-07/msg02581.html | 04:27 |
| DanaG | I need this fixed. =þ | 04:27 |
| syn-ack | Dana, I rather prefer and miss the Old Kernel Release Schedule | 04:27 |
| DanaG | What's that? | 04:29 |
| syn-ack | Odds and evens. | 04:29 |
| DanaG | er | 04:30 |
| DanaG | s/3/6/ | 04:30 |
| syn-ack | Two seperate branches, not developing off the current stable branch, you know smart shit like that | 04:30 |
| DanaG | Can't say I'd noticed much of a change. | 04:30 |
| syn-ack | DanaG: heh | 04:31 |
| syn-ack | I havce | 04:31 |
| syn-ack | have, too | 04:31 |
| syn-ack | 2.6.6 is one prime example | 04:31 |
| DanaG | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13659 | 04:31 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 13659 in network-wireless "iwlagn (4965): no wireless due to RFKILL problem" [Normal,Resolved: patch_already_available] | 04:31 |
| syn-ack | DanaG: Of course, thats just my two cents | 04:32 |
| DanaG | http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18047 | 04:48 |
| DanaG | hah, gotta' love the ignorant bashing of PulseAudio... which happens to be one way to fix exactly the problem the person gripes about. | 04:48 |
| syn-ack | DanaG: I personally dont see the need for Pulse | 04:54 |
| DanaG | It's awesome for multi-audio-device stuff. | 04:54 |
| syn-ack | ah | 04:54 |
| DanaG | And for remixing M streams to N speakers. | 04:54 |
| syn-ack | yeah, I dont do any of that, so yeah... | 04:54 |
| RAOF | Or for streaming across the network. | 04:54 |
| DanaG | Where M != N. | 04:54 |
| syn-ack | Someone wanna tell me if I'm blind or if there really is no config menu entry for gdm in Karmic... | 04:56 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, I tried the AirPort Express support, and it had rather horrid (1.5 second!) lag. | 04:56 |
| syn-ack | DanaG: on a brighter note, the ath5k driver is sooooo much nicer than in mainline. :P | 04:57 |
| * DanaG has an Intel 5300. | 04:59 | |
| syn-ack | So, am I just blind or can one not configure the GDM login screen or even customise it... | 05:02 |
| DanaG | You can, but it's not obvious how. | 05:02 |
| syn-ack | So how would I go about it? | 05:03 |
| DanaG | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202843&page=42 | 05:03 |
| syn-ack | Hrm | 05:07 |
| syn-ack | I dont seem to have the extension installed for gnome control center | 05:07 |
| DanaG | Try xterm instead of gnome-control-center | 05:08 |
| DanaG | then you can run gnome-appearance-preferences or gconf-editor from there. | 05:08 |
| syn-ack | Dana I did fire up from commandline as per that wiki entry | 05:12 |
| syn-ack | this is the error I got: http://meskes.pastebin.com/d53365b38 | 05:12 |
| DanaG | Is your desktop AT the login screen? | 05:14 |
| DanaG | It has to actually be sitting at the login screen for it to work. | 05:14 |
| syn-ack | ugh, ok | 05:15 |
| syn-ack | standby | 05:15 |
| syn-ack | yeah, no dice... | 05:15 |
| syn-ack | All Im trying to do is reset my autologin | 05:16 |
| DanaG | Oh, that's a bit different. | 05:17 |
| DanaG | That needs the gdm custom.conf file. | 05:17 |
| DanaG | http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/812/ | 05:17 |
| syn-ack | aha, great. Thanks. | 05:18 |
| syn-ack | Not quite as gracefull as I was hoping | 05:25 |
| * DanaG likes his funky compiz profile. | 05:34 | |
| DanaG | http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Dana_Compiz.profile | 05:35 |
| DanaG | Actually, quick way to get a sense of how it's set: open it as a text file. | 05:35 |
| syn-ack | hrm | 05:40 |
| syn-ack | this kinda irritating, actually | 05:40 |
| DanaG | what? | 05:42 |
| DanaG | oh, and it's a good idea to export your own profile for safekeeping, just for the heck of it. | 05:42 |
| syn-ack | Just trying to get gdm to work like it did before I upgraded | 05:43 |
| DanaG | Or for in case you ever accidentally choose one of the options in Appearance Properties window. | 05:43 |
| syn-ack | DanaG: I do that on all my systems at first install | 05:43 |
| DanaG | Ah. Yeah, GDM has changed a lot. | 05:43 |
| DanaG | I find my profile has a nifty mix of "shinyness" and not-insanity. | 05:43 |
| syn-ack | I get an error regarding simple-window something or another as well, and I'm trying to figure that one out | 05:44 |
| syn-ack | and its a gdm error too... quite irritating | 05:44 |
| DanaG | yeah, that one is from metacity. | 05:44 |
| syn-ack | Im not even using metacity though | 05:44 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/395324 | 05:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395324 in gdm "'These windows do not support "save current setup"....' metacity warning when logging in with gdm 2.26" [Medium,In progress] | 05:45 |
| syn-ack | Im using compiz/fusion | 05:45 |
| DanaG | GDM is, though. | 05:45 |
| syn-ack | I had it set up to use compiz | 05:45 |
| syn-ack | so, either way it was doing it | 05:45 |
| DanaG | Checkbox for gdm using compiz... didn't actually work. | 05:45 |
| syn-ack | No wonder I couldnt find that metacity error looking at this... | 05:46 |
| syn-ack | /usr/share/blah/blah/mile_long$PATH | 05:47 |
| syn-ack | wow, ok, cool. Fixed enough for gov't work | 05:51 |
| syn-ack | Thanks for the help DanaG | 05:51 |
| DanaG | Or alternately: | 05:52 |
| DanaG | symlink that metacity.desktop to the compiz.desktop | 05:52 |
| DanaG | wherever that may be. | 05:52 |
| syn-ack | nah, this works well enough | 05:52 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot.png | 05:55 |
| syn-ack | That right there, is more or less the EXACT same way I have mine set up | 05:57 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, the globe thingy with question-mark is service-discovery-applet. | 06:01 |
| DanaG | oh, and for some reason, the full battery is showing the "empty" icon. | 06:01 |
| syn-ack | hrm | 06:04 |
| DanaG | I like having a non-glossy theme. Much easier on the eyes. | 06:17 |
| DanaG | Oh, and high-dpi display for-the-win. | 06:17 |
| DanaG | Desktop font is set to 9 pt, 147 DPI. Real display is... 147 DPI. | 06:18 |
| DanaG | Just as it should be. | 06:18 |
| andresmh | I had set up synchronization on Tomboy using a local folder. I reinstalled Ubuntu and I pointed Tomboy to the same folder and it fails synching. Error message is empty. ANy ideas? | 06:38 |
| Ademan | kklimonda: hrm yeah, I don't actually even use eclipse, i was just going to play around with pydev for fun, but day to day i use vim... it seems like *someone* has got to need eclipse though, I can't believe no one's stepped up... | 08:12 |
| kklimonda | Ademan: afair it's a hard package to build from source and maintain | 08:14 |
| kklimonda | Ademan: it's easier to unpack it to ~/eclipse/ | 08:14 |
| LLStarks | this bug needs to die: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7607475 | 08:17 |
| RAOF | Also, eclipse _also_ builds libswt-gtk, so it needs special care in order to not break lots of other software. | 08:20 |
| Alocado | hello | 08:51 |
| Alocado | i'm using karmic and have a problem booting the 2.6.31-* kernels, i get an error message like "ata1: illegal qc_active transition".. anybody who knows about this error? | 08:52 |
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| eagles0513875 | Alocado: ask in ubuntu-kernel | 09:04 |
| Alocado | k | 09:07 |
| Alocado | third try ;) | 09:08 |
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| Lademord | woohoo, I' | 11:29 |
| Lademord | ve just had system sound for the first time in THREE YEARS! | 11:29 |
| Lademord | Also, every time I boot up karmic I get some kind of warning about gdm-simple-greeter not supporting session-something and having to be restarted.. | 11:31 |
| |ns|nR8 | thats normal Lademord | 11:32 |
| Lademord | Ah okay | 11:32 |
| Lademord | I assume it'll be fixed before rc though :) | 11:32 |
| |ns|nR8 | yep | 11:32 |
| |ns|nR8 | windows 7 and 9.10 will be official within a week of each other | 11:33 |
| |ns|nR8 | sounds like a good time to reformat the drive and start again | 11:33 |
| |ns|nR8 | 3 months away | 11:34 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe | 11:39 |
| Lademord | I'm running beta of both here :) | 11:40 |
| eagles0513875 | nice i cant wait till win 7 comes out so i can get off vista and use my ram more efficiently | 11:42 |
| eagles0513875 | i have 8gb in this desktop lol running vista 64bit atm | 11:42 |
| eagles0513875 | guys has anyone tested out lmms on karmic yet | 11:43 |
| |ns|nR8 | i got 4 gig ram..im still runnin 32 bit os's | 11:45 |
| |ns|nR8 | ill make the switch in october | 11:45 |
| Lademord | I don't find Win7 as fantastic as everybody claims.. I've got several issues with stuff from XP which doesn't work anymore (or perhaps that's because I'm running 64bit now...) | 11:46 |
| |ns|nR8 | 7 has better battery life on laptop...and loads faster, looks nicer | 11:47 |
| |ns|nR8 | thats enough to convince me | 11:47 |
| |ns|nR8 | more than 4 gig ram would be overkill for everyday use ? | 11:48 |
| |ns|nR8 | only so much windows will cache in ram | 11:49 |
| Lademord | You can never have too much RAM | 11:49 |
| Lademord | :) | 11:49 |
| |ns|nR8 | haha | 11:49 |
| eagles0513875 | Lademord: you run with compatibility enabled | 11:55 |
| eagles0513875 | Lademord: when using vista it uses 2gb outa the box | 11:55 |
| eagles0513875 | for me at least | 11:55 |
| eagles0513875 | then i have a tendency to multitask and i end up using 70% of the 8gb | 11:55 |
| Lademord | Okay that's just plain stupid.. An OS shouldn't use that much RAM on its own! | 11:55 |
| Lademord | I love Ubuntu for being relatively low on the requirements | 11:56 |
| amortvigil | does 9.10 may break my system of certanly break it? | 11:58 |
| amortvigil | certainly | 11:58 |
| |ns|nR8 | vista will easy use 2 gig for pre caching data...when its only really needs 400MB | 11:58 |
| Lademord | amortvigil, It may break it. Alpha2 is still unstable as hell. | 11:58 |
| |ns|nR8 | the alpha is certainly messed up | 11:58 |
| amortvigil | to bad | 11:59 |
| Lademord | ..but I upgraded anyway because after three years of waiting ALSA now finally supports my sound card! | 11:59 |
| amortvigil | because 9.04 is still unusable to me | 11:59 |
| amortvigil | some network errors | 11:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | latest kernel version supports some features in my hardware for the first time aswell | 11:59 |
| amortvigil | wich cause my system to break | 11:59 |
| yofel | amortvigil: you should try it out in a virtual machine first to check if you can use it | 11:59 |
| yofel | then you might want to think about upgrading | 12:00 |
| amortvigil | yofel: smart idea | 12:00 |
| yofel | My Thinkpad can finally suspend without errors after 2 years of using ubuntu | 12:00 |
| amortvigil | is there a new artwork? | 12:01 |
| yofel | it got better with jaunty, but karmic really fixed it. | 12:01 |
| amortvigil | what kind of errors are the worst at the moment? | 12:01 |
| yofel | amortvigil: not that much, the only big change is that GDM can't be configured by GUI | 12:01 |
| amortvigil | lol | 12:02 |
| amortvigil | and does the new boot method work? | 12:02 |
| eagles0513875 | there is also the big annoyance at least on kde the plasma-widget-network-manager wont connecto to wpa encrypted wifi connections | 12:02 |
| yofel | hm, then there's the transition from hal to devicekit that's messing with drive mounting... | 12:03 |
| yofel | ok, g-p-m seems to be finally fixed here with todays update and doesn't crash anymore | 12:04 |
| |ns|nR8 | prolly be a hug mess till beta | 12:04 |
| |ns|nR8 | again | 12:04 |
| yofel | true | 12:05 |
| Lademord | When's the beta planned for? | 12:07 |
| |ns|nR8 | start of oct | 12:07 |
| Lademord | damn | 12:11 |
| Lademord | that's a very long time | 12:11 |
| yofel | Lademord: see the karmic release schedule in the topic | 12:12 |
| eagles0513875 | anyone else trying out the google chrome daily builds | 12:29 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: the chromium ones yes | 12:30 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: is the reaload button working and other stuff like that for ya | 12:30 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz for me they arent working for some reason | 12:30 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: the build from yesterday works fine here | 12:32 |
| eagles0513875 | strange the one in the ppa then is broken | 12:32 |
| eagles0513875 | or incomplete cuz refresh isnt working for me either that or the ia32libs are bugged | 12:32 |
| Q-FUNK | apw: please let me know if you need any more info to solve bug #396286 :) | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396286 in linux "kernel 2.6.31-generic oops after loading initramfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396286 | 12:46 |
| eagles0513875 | hey yofel you running 32bit or 64bit | 12:48 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: 64 | 12:51 |
| eagles0513875 | strange | 12:52 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz im having issues and i am on 20090712r20470-0ubuntu1-ucd1 version of it | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | Q-FUNK: the kernenl guys will let you know on the bug report what info is needed | 12:54 |
| Q-FUNK | gnomefreak: yes and that would be apw, who has responded to both of my kernel bug reports. | 12:54 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: when you installed karmic was it an upgrade from jaunty or clean install | 12:55 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: I first upgraded to karmic from jaunty short after alpha1, then did a clean install of alpha2 a few days ago because some things were broken beyond repair. | 13:16 |
| eagles0513875 | ya seems like chomium is broken cuz i upgraded from jaunty to karmic | 13:16 |
| eagles0513875 | does this warrent a bug report | 13:16 |
| Lademord | yofel I'm considering doing a clean install of alpha2 as well in order to get rid of any redundant code (including OSS) that has been left behind from jaunty | 13:55 |
| eagles0513875 | hey BluesKaj | 13:56 |
| eagles0513875 | last i heard though the cd wasnt working for alpha 2 | 13:56 |
| * maxb notes that it's less than 2 weeks until alpha 3 | 13:56 | |
| BluesKaj | hi folks | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | hi eagles | 13:57 |
| yofel | the cd for alpha 2 works fine (at least from usb, thats all i tested). The dialy images are broken all the time | 14:02 |
| yofel | hi BluesKaj | 14:02 |
| BluesKaj | hi yofel | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, I just upgrade everyday , every thing seems ok , except plasma still crashes , but recovers on it own | 14:04 |
| cbr | hello | 14:14 |
| yofel | hi cbr | 14:15 |
| cbr | the "Starting kernel event manager" stage of the boot returns [fail] 70% of times | 14:15 |
| cbr | which makes stuff not work obviously | 14:15 |
| cbr | what could be the problem? | 14:15 |
| cbr | also, logrotate doesn't work | 14:24 |
| cbr | my logs are 200MB+ in size | 14:24 |
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| eagles0513875 | what version of qt is in karmic | 14:34 |
| eagles0513875 | !qt | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Qt is the Qt (pronounced "cute") toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt 3 applications or libqt4-dev for Qt 4 applications. Qt 4.4 is available from hardy-backports | 14:34 |
| eagles0513875 | !info qt | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Package qt does not exist in karmic | 14:35 |
| maxb | eagles0513875: Use packages.ubuntu.com or rmadison | 14:35 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 14:35 |
| eagles0513875 | maxb: i know bout those sites but there are quite a few qt packages available in regards to qt4 | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | hey oldude67 , welcome ! | 15:07 |
| oldude67 | hello | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | nice to see other older ppl with an interest in Linux | 15:08 |
| eagles0513875 | heheh BluesKaj :) | 15:15 |
| eagles0513875 | what ya working on today BluesKaj | 15:15 |
| BluesKaj | actually I'm waiting for the rain to stop , so I can go out to fix some window trim that's come loose :) | 15:17 |
| BluesKaj | other than that I'm enjoying some coffee | 15:20 |
| eagles0513875 | coffee is always good | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | have you given chromium-browsers a spin yet | 15:24 |
| JonDoe297 | eagles0513875: I heard that it has a flash support now | 15:25 |
| eagles0513875 | ya but im having some issues with it im starting to think its related to the upgrade from jaunty to karmic i did | 15:25 |
| eagles0513875 | here is the link to the ppa for it https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa | 15:26 |
| JonDoe297 | I know about it, but thanks :) | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | no prob | 15:26 |
| JonDoe297 | I tried Chrome a few days ago, but dropped it | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | are you on a clean install of karmic or upgraded version | 15:26 |
| JonDoe297 | upgraded from jaunty | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | did you have issues with some of the buttons cuz i am havin gsome issues with the refresh button not working | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | hey BluesKaj welcome back | 15:27 |
| JonDoe297 | nope | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | interesting | 15:28 |
| JonDoe297 | I have some strange issues with my keyboard and mouse, but it's not Ubuntu-related methink :) | 15:28 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe | 15:28 |
| maxb | clean installs are massively overrated | 15:28 |
| JonDoe297 | so, about Chromium | 15:28 |
| JonDoe297 | I dropped it because of horrible font rendering :( | 15:28 |
| eagles0513875 | strange | 15:28 |
| maxb | Except for one point where I *had* to reinstall to switch from i386 to amd64, I've gone step-by-step all the way from dapper->karmic | 15:29 |
| eagles0513875 | nice but you try out chromium-browser | 15:29 |
| JonDoe297 | I think that I will try it tommorow | 15:29 |
| eagles0513875 | how can i run chromium-browser through gdb it was saying something about not being an executable | 15:30 |
| JonDoe297 | maxb: and how are you with amd64? :) | 15:32 |
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| maxb | ? | 15:32 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: you could try to attach gdb to the process after starting chromium | 15:32 |
| JonDoe297 | I mean, overall experience :) Faster than i386, etc? | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | i was trying to do gdb chromium-browser and then use r to run it | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | JonDoe297: 64bit = nice but there some things still missing which are now getting fixed like flash being one | 15:33 |
| JonDoe297 | oh, flash | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | they now have 64bit for it though | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | ok thats messed up now it seems to work | 15:36 |
| eagles0513875 | so no issue here then | 15:36 |
| JonDoe297 | eagles0513875: have you tried Namoroka? | 15:37 |
| JonDoe297 | I'm using it now :) | 15:37 |
| eagles0513875 | ? | 15:38 |
| eagles0513875 | wtf is that | 15:38 |
| JonDoe297 | "Firefox 3.6" | 15:38 |
| JonDoe297 | but for now, it's branded as Minefield :) | 15:38 |
| arand_ | I'm getting some errors updating update-motd: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/216980/ | 15:39 |
| eagles0513875 | im on 3.5 i believe | 15:39 |
| JonDoe297 | I still have old Firefox (3.0.11) for backup :) | 15:40 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe | 15:41 |
| Lademord | I still have old firefox for backup because I don't dare delete it out of fear that my computer explodes or something | 15:44 |
| eagles0513875 | heheh Lademord chromium is working now refresh wise | 15:52 |
| Lademord | I know it has probably been discussed a thousand times before, but why is there both Chromium and Chrome? Which is best? | 16:07 |
| JMFTheVCI | Just updated with the latest set of fixes. When I perform an administrative task (eg synaptic) via the menus I am prompted for my password which it then says is incorrect. Yet if I do the same with sudo synaptic in a terminal it accepts my password. Anyone seen this? | 16:08 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: karmic? what does the terminal print if you run "gksu id" ? | 16:09 |
| JonDoe297 | Lademord: Chromium is for "daily testing", Chrome is more "stable" | 16:09 |
| JonDoe297 | or I'm wrong? | 16:09 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvo: If I start a new terminal it prompts me for my password which it believes is wrong. If I do sudo gksu id then it works (but obviously responds uid=0) | 16:11 |
| JMFTheVCI | The sudo accepts my password. | 16:11 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: no output from gksu id when the password is (said to be) wrong? | 16:12 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: what version libgksu2-0 do you use? | 16:12 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvs: libgksu2-0-1ubuntu | 16:14 |
| JMFTheVCI | (karmic alpha 2 + fixes to date) | 16:14 |
| arand_ | JMFTheVCI: I'm having the exact same issue here | 16:14 |
| JMFTheVCI | Aha! not alone! | 16:14 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvo: the last two attempts at gksu id with a clean (closed & re-opened) terminal have been returning uid=0 | 16:16 |
| JMFTheVCI | also I am getting a crash report about something but I cannot report it because my password is not being accepted! | 16:18 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: libgksu2-0-1ubuntu <- which ubuntu revision is that, its most likely got cut off from dpkg, dpkg -l libgksu2-0 |more should display all of it | 16:18 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: do you get the prompt back when you run "sudo -k" ? | 16:18 |
| arand_ | mvo: JMFTheVCI: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/217001/ << output from gksu -d id | 16:18 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvo 2.0.12-1ubuntu2 | 16:19 |
| mvo | arand_: thanks - hm, so this is what it prints and it does display a dialog? | 16:20 |
| JMFTheVCI_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/217007/ | 16:21 |
| mvo | JMFTheVCI: thanks - this problem smelled a lot like a bug that got fixed in the -1ubuntu2 version. but it appears that this is no tthe case (at least for you) | 16:21 |
| mvo | anything uncommon in your sudo config? | 16:21 |
| JMFTheVCI | not changed from default installation | 16:21 |
| arand_ | arand_: That is the output of one failed attmept and then cancel... but I actually think that that is the standard output from it... | 16:21 |
| * arand_ wonders why he is speaking to himself | 16:22 | |
| eagles0513875 | hahah arand | 16:23 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvo: when I enter "sudo -k" I am returned to my standard "$" prompt. | 16:24 |
| eagles0513875 | JMFTheVCI: same issue with sudo -i | 16:24 |
| arand_ | mvo: http://pastebin.com/f55bf56b8 | 16:24 |
| JMFTheVCI | eagles...: "sudo -i" prompts for password, and accepts it, then tells me about ubuntu software being free. | 16:25 |
| eagles0513875 | but are you in root JMFTheVCI | 16:25 |
| arand_ | mvo: nothing strange as far as I can tell... | 16:25 |
| eagles0513875 | and i can confirum that sudo -k takes ya back ot the standard prompt | 16:25 |
| mvo | arand_, JMFTheVCI: I do a fresh test install (automatic, will take ~30min or so) and check out if I can reproduce it, thanks | 16:26 |
| JMFTheVCI | eagles: no I am just me (uid=500) | 16:27 |
| JMFTheVCI | sorry uid=1000 | 16:27 |
| eagles0513875 | strange | 16:28 |
| eagles0513875 | anyway i have to go for now :( but ill bbl | 16:28 |
| arand_ | already three bugs on lp about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/398849 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/398800 | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 398849 in gksu "Can't elevate privledges on administrative tasks" [Undecided,New] | 16:28 |
| JMFTheVCI | arand_: tried a search but not with the right words. Those are most certainly matching. | 16:30 |
| JMFTheVCI | "gksudo gedit" fails. "sudo gedit" works. | 16:31 |
| JMFTheVCI | mvo: when running "gksudo gedit" in terminal, "GNOME_SUDO_PASS" is seen followed by "sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts" | 16:32 |
| arand_ | gonna mark as confirmed for now. | 16:33 |
| yofel | cool, my wifi firmware locked up o.O 1690 root 15 -5 0 0 0 R 100 0.0 16:33.92 iwlagn | 16:34 |
| Supersaiyan_IV | yofel, that happens quite a lot with iwlagn | 16:34 |
| yofel | Supersaiyan_IV: first time for me that it gets 100% | 16:34 |
| yofel | or maybe I just got lucky till now ^^ | 16:35 |
| Supersaiyan_IV | yofel, look at bug #275359 | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275359 in linux "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.27/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-tx.c:1198 and subsequent panic" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275359 | 16:35 |
| yofel | Supersaiyan_IV: thx | 16:35 |
| robin0800 | JMFTheVCI: gksu gedit works | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | robin0800: with today's updates? | 16:44 |
| * arand_ marks another dupe | 16:45 | |
| charlie-tca | broken here, bug 398849 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 398849 in gksu "Can't elevate privledges on administrative tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398849 | 16:45 |
| JMFTheVCI | robin0800: gksu gedit does not work. sodo gedit does work | 16:46 |
| JMFTheVCI | The problem appears to be in gksu as bug 398849 indicates. | 16:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 398849 in gksu "Can't elevate privledges on administrative tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398849 | 16:46 |
| robin0800 | JMFTheVCI: I updated this morning but just checked now and there is a lot more will update and try again | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | I just ran those updates here. gksu stays broken, can't use Synaptic Package Manager either | 16:48 |
| robin0800 | I have to reboot | 16:51 |
| Sarvatt | hmm shutdown and restart are broken here too | 16:52 |
| Sarvatt | (via gnome menus) | 16:52 |
| JonDoe297 | Sarvatt: yeah, I've just tried to restart a few minutes ago, and no luck :) | 16:53 |
| === maxb_ is now known as maxb | ||
| michaelfavia | update-manager and synaptic keep attempting ot perform upgrades to the koala alpha im runing that remve system meta packages like "system-services", etc. i realize this might be a sideeffect of not having the deps inline yet. whould i allow it to happen or wait till it isnt required anymore? | 17:25 |
| michaelfavia | just wanted to know what the normal workflow was. | 17:26 |
| charlie-tca | michaelfavia: I run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade once or twice a day, and just let karmic update what it wants to | 17:31 |
| charlie-tca | As packages are changed, some of those will not be used anymore | 17:32 |
| michaelfavia | charlie-tca, understood. just wanted to make sure that certain deps werent temporarily ditched by the reconciliation tools. | 17:32 |
| michaelfavia | will do then | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | Can't be sure of anything in alpha | 17:33 |
| michaelfavia | of course. but i wanted to knwo how everyone else tracked it | 17:33 |
| michaelfavia | meaning what the most desirable/supported fashion was | 17:33 |
| Sarvatt | karmic-changes mailing list is how i check if its intended or not | 17:33 |
| michaelfavia | Sarvatt, should subscribe then... good call | 17:34 |
| michaelfavia | thx | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | Changes come is so fast at times, you just update and hope it works. Todays updates broke gksu | 17:34 |
| Sarvatt | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives//karmic-changes/2009-July/date.html | 17:34 |
| michaelfavia | brb restart now :) | 17:42 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| rski | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/374250 | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 374250 in ubuntu "svgalib_helper is not working" [Undecided,New] | 18:22 |
| rski | reported this way back | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | rski: Maybe you could expain more in the report what the actual problem is. All I see is a couple of questions | 18:27 |
| rski | i can't use svgalib-apps | 18:29 |
| kholerabbi1 | rski: you could include simple steps to reproduce the issue | 18:34 |
| === MobileMyles6o7 is now known as TwoToneSpirit | ||
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Zorael^2 | Should all packages that are supposed to be present in Karmic have hit the repos already? I.e, is a package present in Jaunty and mising in Karmic just saying that "it's not done yet", or is it worthy of a bug/wishlist report? | 18:38 |
| Zorael^2 | (xshodo) | 18:38 |
| arand_ | I'm failing to update update-motd: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/216980/ | 18:50 |
| Zorael^2 | arand: 'sudo service update-motd stop', then 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' | 19:04 |
| Regel | So, how stable is 9.10 atm? Im considering installing it as a primary system on my laptop | 19:11 |
| rski | expect it to brake | 19:11 |
| Regel | i still got my desktop, though, so no worries | 19:11 |
| yofel | Regel: I use it as my primary desktop, but stable: no | 19:12 |
| billybigrigger_ | its pretty stable for an alpha imo | 19:12 |
| Regel | more stable than 9.04 at the same point? | 19:12 |
| billybigrigger_ | i haven't had any showstopper problems here........yet | 19:12 |
| billybigrigger_ | :P | 19:12 |
| yofel | billybigrigger_: well, if you don't count gdm and devkit - yes :P | 19:12 |
| SeveredCross | GDM is pretty unstable. | 19:13 |
| billybigrigger_ | how so? no problems here with it | 19:13 |
| billybigrigger_ | except for the gdm-greeter bug | 19:13 |
| SeveredCross | Actually, it might be X. | 19:14 |
| SeveredCross | But I often get dropped back to GDM randomly. | 19:14 |
| billybigrigger_ | intel/ati/nvidia? | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | gtk is breaking a lot of things, too | 19:14 |
| yofel | charlie-tca: wasn't most of that fixed already? | 19:14 |
| SeveredCross | ATI. | 19:14 |
| protector1981 | gdm doesnt work on my laptop :( | 19:14 |
| protector1981 | intel graphics | 19:14 |
| Regel | :( | 19:14 |
| protector1981 | but have karmic notebook not here ;) | 19:15 |
| billybigrigger_ | SeveredCross, is that an ati only thing? nvidia here, and i have once been dropped back to gdm | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | blank cd's don't get recognized, I think the fix for gksu is out now | 19:15 |
| SeveredCross | billybigrigger_: Might be. | 19:15 |
| yofel | well, on my eeePC, intel graphics got much better with karmic | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | Also, gnumeric is broken because of gtk | 19:15 |
| yofel | UXA is much more stable and works fine together with KMS here | 19:15 |
| billybigrigger_ | SeveredCross, i read that again, i meant, i have yet once been dropped back, meaning never | 19:15 |
| billybigrigger_ | SeveredCross, too early :P | 19:16 |
| billybigrigger_ | gdm updates are coming | 19:17 |
| Sarvatt | theres some major backend changes being done (devicekit transition, moving things from hal to udev, policykit-1), i'd say its a little less unstable than jaunty at the same time personally but there arent any really major things that make it unusable on any of my systems | 19:17 |
| billybigrigger_ | seems quite a few bug fixes | 19:17 |
| Sarvatt | oh yeah and gdm getting upgraded from the 1.5 year old version in jaunty of course :) | 19:18 |
| Sarvatt | less less stable, sorry | 19:19 |
| Lademord | Is there any guarantee that alpha3 is more stable than alpha2? (i.e. if I wait until alpha3 to do a clean install, will I risk breaking something that worked with alpha2?) | 19:20 |
| billybigrigger_ | should technically have less problems | 19:21 |
| Lademord | cool | 19:21 |
| billybigrigger_ | but...who knows | 19:21 |
| hggdh | but nothing is guaranteed | 19:21 |
| billybigrigger_ | exactly | 19:21 |
| Sarvatt | no real reason to wait, its just a snapshot in time that you could have by upgrading along the way :D | 19:21 |
| Lademord | Nah, I know. It is, after all, just alpha | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | but the risk is always there if running alpha. If it worked yesterday, it might break today | 19:22 |
| === leifkindal is now known as rleeds | ||
| Lademord | Sarvatt, I want to do a clean install to get rid of redundant code (and OSS) from jaunty | 19:22 |
| billybigrigger_ | Lademord, what Sarvatt said, a clean install of an A2 disk upgraded will be the EXACT same system as a clean install of A3 | 19:22 |
| Sarvatt | you could download a daily livecd and install from there | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | The new libgksu update is out. It fixes the gksu issue | 19:23 |
| Sarvatt | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 19:23 |
| Sarvatt | i would wait until tomorrows image though | 19:24 |
| Lademord | Cool. I'll try that | 19:24 |
| Lademord | Sarvatt, why is that? | 19:24 |
| Sarvatt | unless you want to upgrade right after installing :D | 19:24 |
| billybigrigger_ | Sarvatt, hey, how often is linus's tree updated? http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/35294/ has a patch for my camera module and some more gspca stuff....but i haven't seen it anywhere else, i guess i could patch the files myself and recompile yes? | 19:24 |
| Lademord | ah, in that way | 19:24 |
| Sarvatt | that gksu problem people were talking about | 19:24 |
| Sarvatt | there were a _ton_ of upgrades today since that image | 19:25 |
| billybigrigger_ | 60+mb for me | 19:25 |
| hggdh | billybigrigger_: it depends on the kernel maintainers; here we will usually wait for a RC; if a kernel fix is critical enough, it may be cherry picked, thou | 19:26 |
| billybigrigger_ | meh, ill wait for rc3 | 19:26 |
| Lademord | Sarvatt, when is the image updated? | 19:27 |
| Sarvatt | every morning | 19:28 |
| Sarvatt | same time thats listed there | 19:28 |
| yofel | hm, any reason why the mainline builds of 2.6.31-rc1/2 are amd64 only? | 19:29 |
| Sarvatt | because i915 wasnt building against the gcc version they used to build them, its fixed now | 19:29 |
| yofel | ah ok :) | 19:29 |
| Sarvatt | theres a rc1-fixed on there | 19:29 |
| Sarvatt | you're in a karmic channel though, why are you using those on karmic? :D | 19:30 |
| yofel | Sarvatt: was just curious why there's no x86 build, I use them on my jaunty machine which is amd64 thankfully ;) | 19:32 |
| Sarvatt | they're made for jaunty and use the old jaunty configs | 19:32 |
| Sarvatt | ah, yeah you can get the mainline daily kernels for i386 if you need, rc3 will work when its released too | 19:32 |
| arand | Zorael^2: Cheers I'll try that (update-motd) when I get the can online again. | 19:33 |
| SwedeMike | anyone know anything about if karmic will include support for dhcpv6 so one can get dns-server etc using ipv6 only? | 19:38 |
| SwedeMike | 9.04 isn't really that good when it comes to v6 support | 19:38 |
| BUGabundo | bom fim de tarde :) | 19:45 |
| BUGabundo | sou gksu bitten us in the behind :( | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | is it fixed yet? | 19:46 |
| Zorael^2 | Is the OpenJDK 64-bit IcedTea java browser plugin working for anyone? | 19:47 |
| SeveredCross | Bleh. Anyone else experiencing issues with that ear candy applet? | 19:49 |
| SeveredCross | It really messes with my volume. | 19:50 |
| arand | BUGabundo: dunno if it's hit mirrors yet. | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | I use main | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | but thanks arand | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | haven't seen you around much | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: eheh I got 200 load avg yesterday | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | something is REALLY BAD | 19:54 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: hehe, I left my notebook running and the load went down to ~1800... | 19:54 |
| yofel | have to restart now though, my wifi firmware got stuck *-.- | 19:55 |
| yofel | i suspect the 'linux-firmware' update today at fault for that... | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | I'm suspectign NM | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: using 0.7, 0.7.1 or 0.8? | 19:57 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo, do you have metacity listed in ps aux | grep metacity ? | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | CPU | sys 65% | user 94% | irq 1% | idle 40% | wait 0% | | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | cpu | sys 33% | user 48% | irq 0% | idle 18% | cpu000 w 0% | | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | cpu | sys 33% | user 46% | irq 0% | idle 21% | cpu001 w 0% | | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | CPL | avg1 0.69 | avg5 1.01 | avg15 0.97 | csw 132828 | intr 20320 | | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: let me check | 19:58 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: 0.7.1 | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | its running and causing 100% cpu usage (split between core) | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | when you have compiz enabled | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | sudo killall -9 metacity should fix it if so | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | $ top | grep metaci | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | 5363 bugabund 6448 4952 150m 20 0 R 1.9 0.2 0:00.02 metacity | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | yep | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | I noticed on my bootcharts I have both metacity and compiz | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | no idea why | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | kill it, watch the cpu usage drop dramatically :) | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | its a metacity bug | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | DOWN | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | WOW | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | only happens when metacity is the default WM and you start compiz after | 19:59 |
| Sarvatt | theres a fix but it hasnt hit karmic yet | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | be like this for 2 weeks :((( | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: I've been using compiz as default since JJ | 19:59 |
| Sarvatt | its how you're starting it thats causing problems | 19:59 |
| Sarvatt | if you just have it set in appearance preferences it works fine | 20:00 |
| Sarvatt | but if you use fusion icon or anything that calls compiz --replace it hits the bug | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gui-ufw/+bug/398945 | 20:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 398945 in gui-ufw "File "/usr/share/gufw/gufw.py", line 42, in <module>" [Undecided,New] | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | anyone with gufw broken too? | 20:00 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: seems you were right, /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart got iwlagn working again :) | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: prob fusionicon | 20:00 |
| syn-ack | hrm | 20:00 |
| syn-ack | Seems to be a lot of updates today | 20:00 |
| syn-ack | mass push, eh? | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: bug id ? | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: let me change on Appearences | 20:01 |
| arand | seems like the gksu update is downloadable now. | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | OOPPSSS | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | accidentily clicked on a theme on Apparence | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | anyway to get my old theme? | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | killing theme or something ? | 20:02 |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/389686 | 20:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 389686 in metacity "compiz --replace fails to kill metacity, resulting in cpu overload" [High,Triaged] | 20:02 |
| arand | BUGabundo: custom, unsaved theme? | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | arand: errr yeah | 20:02 |
| arand | BUGabundo: in that case luck might be tough, as far as I know :( | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | doh | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | well then I guess its time I make a new one LOL | 20:03 |
| arand | BUGabundo: try clicking it back to "Ccustom" if it's still saved there... | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | naa nothing there | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | damn this is too bright | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | and dark room is to dark | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 20:05 |
| maxb | Hmm | 20:05 |
| maxb | I have an entry in my System Tools menu labelled HPLJ10xx Replaced Paper | 20:06 |
| maxb | that's not even grammatically correct | 20:06 |
| arand | maxb: me too, I just assumed it was something that'd got there when I was fiddling with print-drivers (which is a canon no less...) | 20:07 |
| Zorael^2 | ick, daily live doesn't boot | 20:10 |
| Zorael^2 | oh, there we go. | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | can some one confirm or deny https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gui-ufw/+bug/398945 ? | 20:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 398945 in gui-ufw "File "/usr/share/gufw/gufw.py", line 42, in <module>" [Undecided,New] | 20:13 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| charlie-tca | That HPLJ10xx Replaced Paper comes in by default now. It is in /usr/share/applications as a .desktop file | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | I did file a bug to get rid of it | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | It only applies if you have a HP LaserJet 1020 printer | 20:15 |
| maxb | oh, I just filed bug 398958 too | 20:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 398958 in foo2zjs "Very poorly named menu item "HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398958 | 20:16 |
| maxb | I don't see your bug open against foo2zjs | 20:16 |
| maxb | I don't think it being filed against ubuntu-meta makes much sense | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | I didn't open it against foo, I opened it as bug 396271 against ubuntu-meta | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 396271 in ubuntu-meta "Karmic has menu item for HPLJ 10xx printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396271 | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | I think ubuntu-meta generates the .desktop files | 20:19 |
| maxb | no, it does not | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is definitely more than just a poor name, anyway. | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | What should it be under, then. It generates the menu item for all dirivatives | 20:20 |
| BUGabundo | anyone using kmail ? my won't open if foreground. it gets kicked to background process! | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo: you using kubuntu now? | 20:23 |
| billybigrigger_ | hahaha rolf | 20:23 |
| billybigrigger_ | sucker | 20:23 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: gnome with KDE apps | 20:24 |
| natewiebe13 | with karmic's new gdm.. how do you change the background? | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | Weeee! more fun than just one DE... | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | natewiebe13: Don't believe you can yet | 20:24 |
| natewiebe13 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SM7jYphZ7U | 20:25 |
| arand | a HP LaserJet 1020 printer | 20:25 |
| natewiebe13 | charlie-tca: that guy did | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | That was back in alpha2, it has changed since then | 20:25 |
| BUGabundo | natewiebe13: I just hate to have another background image durign login !!! | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | and I can't use autologin | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | where the heck is the equivelent to the old gdm setup ??? | 20:26 |
| yofel | natewiebe13: I found something for that in an freebsd thread, let me search for it | 20:26 |
| natewiebe13 | BUGabundo: they havent made one | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | :(((((((((((((( | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | FAIL | 20:26 |
| Pici | bug 395299 | 20:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395299 in gdm "gdm 2.26 has no graphical configuration tool" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395299 | 20:27 |
| Pici | BUGabundo: Please calm down. | 20:27 |
| BUGabundo | Pici: sorry.... my heart is beating fast | 20:27 |
| BUGabundo | I'm all over the place tonigh.... ill take a breath..... | 20:27 |
| BUGabundo | oohh bug id... thanks Pici | 20:28 |
| natewiebe13 | charlie-tca: it was after updating from alpha 2.. but it is the exact same gdm as current | 20:28 |
| yofel | natewiebe13: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3814 -- open termina, login as root with 'sudo -i' and then do what it says in post #5 but exchange chpass with passwd | 20:30 |
| yofel | and replace the last line with 'passwd -d gdm' | 20:31 |
| BUGabundo | humm gconf key for GDM autologin. must find it | 20:32 |
| natewiebe13 | yofel: thanks | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | brb dinner | 20:36 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo: send some my way | 20:37 |
| natewiebe13 | BUGabundo: here is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7605209 i think you could just do the opposite of his solution | 20:42 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 284319 in linux "mute, brightness buttons on new HP 6930p laptop" [Undecided,New] | 20:45 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt: after a git pull do i have to make-kpkg clean? | 20:51 |
| billybigrigger | or does that clean up whatever i just pulled? | 20:52 |
| reto` | use Mr. Clean? ;) | 20:54 |
| Sarvatt | just after you run make of any kind (make oldconfig or whatever) | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | back | 20:55 |
| Sarvatt | you need to make oldconfig again after the pulls and make-kpkg clean before you build again | 20:59 |
| billybigrigger | ok | 21:00 |
| DanaG | I wish somebody would fix my mute LED issues. =þ | 21:03 |
| natewiebe13 | BUGabundo: here is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7605209 i think you could just do the opposite of his solution | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | natewiebe13: ok | 21:29 |
| natewiebe13 | BUGabundo: just an idea | 21:29 |
| erisa__ | I installed karmic daily build on my asus 1005ha to get networking working. Can I use synaptic update to stay current or will that mess up my system. Most things work fine now. | 21:34 |
| charlie-tca | erisa__: hard to say. Since it is still alpha, it changes pretty quickly. | 21:35 |
| yofel | erisa__: better than synaptic you should use 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' in a terminal. That has the smallest risk of removing something important from your system. | 21:36 |
| erisa__ | does safe upgrade do anything between alpha releases? | 21:38 |
| yofel | erisa__: in this case upgrade means installing updates ;) | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | erisa__: yeah you can. but better use update-manager since synaptic may force some updates and break your system | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | erisa__: we get updates hourly eheh | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: better not scare a new devel user with CLI instrucions | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | *even* if they are running a version that requires some knolage to get out of trouble | 21:39 |
| === RonaldH is now known as Ronald | ||
| erisa__ | I run gentoo on my desktop and don't have much experience with aptitude | 21:41 |
| natewiebe13 | erisa__: this is an alpha version.. i think that is enough to mess up your system | 21:41 |
| yofel | well, if you say so. But aptitude is something every alpha user should at least know about ;) | 21:41 |
| natewiebe13 | erisa__: as a precaution, i would have both jaunty and karmic installed so if karmic breaks, you have jaunty as backup | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | or have a live cd ehehe | 21:42 |
| natewiebe13 | true | 21:42 |
| yofel | for an eeePC more like an live usb drive :P | 21:42 |
| erisa__ | so what do you guys do once you install a daily build? Do you just reinstall periodically? | 21:43 |
| natewiebe13 | update manager | 21:43 |
| natewiebe13 | haha | 21:43 |
| natewiebe13 | yofel: have a live harddisk | 21:43 |
| natewiebe13 | haha | 21:44 |
| arand | erisa__: I normally install/upgrade once during devel cycle and then reinstall upon final release... | 21:44 |
| yofel | erisa__: just install updates with your preferred app every day | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | my touchpad bug as been marked dupe of another from 2006 :(( https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/59867 | 21:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 59867 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Synaptics touchpad ceases functioning after suspend and resume." [Low,Won't fix] | 21:45 |
| yofel | won't fix? | 21:45 |
| yofel | ah, wrong package ^^ | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | see my prob? | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | let me nag leann about it | 21:46 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: does it help to add psmouse to MODULES in /etc/default/acpi-support? | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | it does fix to unload and reload | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | and Sarvatt said it would be fix on rc3 | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | so I can wait | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | I just wish it also fixes my suspend crash | 21:50 |
| yofel | nvm then :P | 21:50 |
| billybigrigger | hello | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | hey billybigrigger | 22:07 |
| billybigrigger | anyone alive? | 22:07 |
| billybigrigger | ping | 22:07 |
| yofel | billybigrigger: pong | 22:07 |
| ikonia | billybigrigger: many people | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | pong | 22:08 |
| billybigrig | thanks | 22:08 |
| billybigrig | stupid chatzilla | 22:08 |
| billybigrig | Sarvatt: i didn't know x2's were phenom based | 22:10 |
| Sarvatt | they arent, but yours is | 22:10 |
| billybigrig | just the 7750's and 7780's? | 22:11 |
| billybigrig | err | 22:11 |
| billybigrig | 7850's | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | some guys have such a nerd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398945 | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 398945 in gui-ufw "File "/usr/share/gufw/gufw.py", line 42, in <module>" [Undecided,New] | 22:11 |
| billybigrig | AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor | 22:11 |
| Sarvatt | http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-x2-7750.html | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | look at that guys sugestion, for me to test an hidden download deb! | 22:12 |
| billybigrig | BUGabundo: a little fishy | 22:13 |
| billybigrig | might just be a tinyurl | 22:14 |
| billybigrig | who knows though | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrig: I'll try it *if* I see the source :! | 22:15 |
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| BUGabundo | did something change on gnome for karmic, not allowing apples to be dragged with mouse middle click? | 22:23 |
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| arand | BUGabundo: Marcos is a gufw dev, but precaution are never wrong though.. | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | did something change on gnome for karmic, not allowing apples to be dragged with mouse middle click? (I hate repeating my self) | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: do you have your karmic with you ? | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | come one guys ! some one drag an applet and let me know if it works! | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | remember to unlock first | 22:29 |
| arand | BUGabundo: icon dragging works for me, but then again I have not pushed in latest gnome-panel update... | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | I can't do it for any applet for one week | 22:34 |
| charlie-tca | I have the latest updates in Xubuntu and can drag things | 22:38 |
| maxb | apples!? | 22:39 |
| maxb | oh, applets? | 22:39 |
| * charlie-tca is not sure what apples are | 22:39 | |
| maxb | oh, neat, I didn't know you could drag applets with middlebutton | 22:39 |
| maxb | thanks BUGabundo! :-) | 22:39 |
| * maxb updates ..... | 22:40 | |
| BUGabundo | arand: I got this on identica: "jacob: @bugabundo Working only on icons and the notification area. Everything else is stuck, even though unlocked. " | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | maxb: I only learned that like last year or so | 22:40 |
| arand | BUGabundo: hmm,can drg icons fish and clock, but not eyes, sysmon-applet... | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | I'm filling a bug and uptreaming it | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | $ apport-cli -fp gnome-panel | 22:52 |
| arand | Yay! categories in game menu. | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | ah? | 22:57 |
| arand | at least a "logic" submenu, looks neat. | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/399031 | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 399031 in gnome-panel "some applets are not draggble with mouse middle click" [Undecided,New] | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | arand: maxb ^^^^^ | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | maxb: Thanks for the help on the printer bug | 23:10 |
| arand | BUGabundo: huh more than 5h ago? | 23:18 |
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| BUGabundo | arand: ?? | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | arand: what? I reboot just to ask you what you mean | 23:34 |
| * BUGabundo $ sleep; echo you don't have super sheep powers! | 23:38 | |
| yofel | ok... now thats odd. Here I have an external 2.5" hdd from Transcend that won't mount in karmic with usb -71 errors, but mounts fine in jaunty. All other external drives I have mount fine in karmic. -> wtf? | 23:53 |
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