| CarlFK | cjwatson: yeah, I guess the kernel folks would know... and care, etc. never mind :) | 05:58 |
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| CIA-8 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r792 ubuntu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.39 | 12:02 |
| CIA-8 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r793 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): | 12:10 |
| CIA-8 | grub-installer: If using grub2, then use ordinary grub-install for mdadm-managed RAID | 12:10 |
| CIA-8 | grub-installer: /boot rather than trying to implement it ourselves. | 12:10 |
| CIA-8 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r794 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.39ubuntu1 | 12:14 |
| merkur2k | hey all | 16:30 |
| merkur2k | I am trying to run a script from preseed/late_command that needs to give feedback to the user and might need to ask questions. is there a way to get the installer to let the script be interactive, or is there a better way to do this? | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | welcome back | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | what release of Ubuntu are you running? (this is relevant to my answer ...) | 16:32 |
| merkur2k | intrepid | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | hmm, can you consider an upgrade to jaunty? it gets a lot easier if you can :) | 16:33 |
| merkur2k | unfortunately no, not yet. its been a long road getting to intrepid :) | 16:33 |
| merkur2k | if it is of any interest to you, I am working on an installer for LinuxMCE | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | that's unfortunate. In that case either some hackiness or some more complex development on your part will be required | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | the hacky approach would be to try using debconf-disconnect; it won't clean up the terminal very well, and you won't get a sensible terminal type, so you won't be able to run anything full-screen | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | you prefix a command with that and it runs it with stdio disconnected from debconf | 16:37 |
| merkur2k | my idea is to provide feedback using dialog | 16:37 |
| merkur2k | this is the alternate installer btw | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | you won't be able to do that with intrepid unless you do it the Proper Way | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | that being to turn your script into a udeb that ships debconf templates and interacts with the user using debconf | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | (udeb => installer component) | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | that will give you something that looks just like the rest of the installer | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | and you'd have all the same facilities | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | but it's undeniably more work than a preseed/late_command script | 16:39 |
| merkur2k | that is fine, as long as it fits the needs. | 16:39 |
| merkur2k | in all my travels looking for preseed info, i havent seen anything about udebs, is there any documentation you can point me to? | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/doc/devel/modules.txt is a technical description, but it assumes you already know about Debian-style packaging | 16:43 |
| merkur2k | i know a little, but maybe thats enough | 16:44 |
| cjwatson | basically you build a Debian-style package with some special flags that make it spit out a udeb rather than a deb; the udeb will include some scripts that hook into appropriate places in the installer | 16:44 |
| merkur2k | one of my attempts was a simple deb that contained nothing but a postinst script | 16:45 |
| merkur2k | heh | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | debconf-devel(7) describes how you talk to debconf | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | the hook that corresponds roughly to preseed/late_command is that you drop a script into /usr/lib/finish-install.d/ | 16:47 |
| cjwatson | the file name should start with a number between 00 and 99 - you'll probably want it to be quite small, preseed/late_command runs at 07 | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | you write a debian/YOURPACKAGENAME.templates file describing the various dialogs you want to display | 16:49 |
| merkur2k | ideally i want to run this after all packages are installed, but before any changes have been made to apt sources.list | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | /etc/apt/sources.list is modified before all packages are installed, so that isn't possible ;-) | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | could you be more precise? | 16:51 |
| merkur2k | well i will be installing a number of packages from an extras pool on the cd, i just want to prevent it from downloading any newer ones that might happen to exist in the repositories | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | where does your user interaction come in? | 16:52 |
| merkur2k | right now there isnt any, but depending on how many network cards are detected it may need to ask the user some questions | 16:53 |
| merkur2k | a few of the steps take a very long time to run too, just want to let the user know whats going on | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | could those questions just be asked in the config/postinst script for some package installations? | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | what takes a long time other than package installation? | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | (if anything) | 16:54 |
| merkur2k | at one point it tarballs most of the system, for use as a diskless boot nfs root later | 16:55 |
| merkur2k | that takes awhile :) | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | I think it would help me if you could explain everything you're trying to do in one go, rather than in bits and pieces | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | you see, what I'm trying to do here is to see whether I can advise you of existing hooks that you could use, which would make your life simpler | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | you don't necessarily have to do everything in one piece | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | for instance, there are certainly existing hooks for installing extra packages, which take care of displaying progress information and so on ... | 16:56 |
| merkur2k | as far as i am concerned the existing install script itself for this project is a huge kludge and im just trying to hack something together so we can get a beta out the door. i am sure the "right" way is to make more use of pre- and post- install actions in the debs | 16:57 |
| merkur2k | but as to what it actually does... hmmm | 16:58 |
| purefusion | evand1, mind if I bug you about installing to usb? | 16:58 |
| evand1 | purefusion: bug away | 16:58 |
| merkur2k | its really just installing a bunch of packages, with some glue shell script bits inbetween | 16:58 |
| purefusion | evand1, there doesn't seem to be any clear-cut instructions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/usb-creator | 16:59 |
| purefusion | ah, I think I clicked too early | 17:00 |
| purefusion | didn't realize it was a GUI utility :) | 17:00 |
| merkur2k | we have been desparately trying to attract qualified developers to the project, but it hasnt been happening :( | 17:00 |
| cjwatson | merkur2k: the bunch of packages could fairly easily be installed using the pkgsel/include hook, assuming that you also set up /etc/apt/sources.list using apt-setup's preseeding facilities | 17:01 |
| cjwatson | that'll make the rest of the problem a lot simpler, I'm sure | 17:01 |
| purefusion | wait, am I confusing Live USB Creator and USB Creator, evand1? | 17:01 |
| evand1 | purefusion: liveusb-creator is Fedora's tool | 17:02 |
| evand1 | but it's in the Ubuntu archive, I believe | 17:02 |
| purefusion | ah, ok... so I've got the live disc for 9.04 running, how do I use your utility? command line? | 17:02 |
| evand1 | System -> Administration -> USB Startup Disk Creator | 17:03 |
| purefusion | ok | 17:03 |
| merkur2k | cjwatson: that may help, thanks | 17:04 |
| purefusion | is it possible to install grub on its own, right to the hdd without installing ubuntu on the hdd itself? | 17:04 |
| purefusion | (separate topic) | 17:04 |
| evand1 | purefusion: sudo grub-install /dev/THE_DEVICE | 17:06 |
| purefusion | THE_DEVICE being the active partition of the main hdd, right? | 17:07 |
| purefusion | or do I need to install it to the boot sector? | 17:07 |
| cjwatson | either is possible, although there are lots of hidden gotchas with installing to a partition | 17:07 |
| merkur2k | cjwatson: as an example of one of the weird things this install script does, it creates a temporary /etc/default/nis file for the express purpose of preventing ypbind starting after it is installed | 17:17 |
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| flaviosnm | could some help me with ERROR 5 - ubuntu installation?? | 20:17 |
| flaviosnm | could some help me with ERROR 5 - ubuntu installation?? | 20:21 |
| flaviosnm | Does any one know how to repair error 5 during installation? when it has 24% it drop and i have to reboot the machine | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | !patience | 20:27 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. | 20:27 |
| flaviosnm | sorry. it is my first time here.... | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | Almost everybody is a volunteer, and a lot of people are working. | 20:30 |
| flaviosnm | ok charlie. I will waiting and searching. thanks | 20:33 |
| NCommander | cjwatson_, any good ideas on what would cause the ia64 livecd to dump into d-i instead of starting the image? | 21:10 |
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| cjwatson_ | NCommander: I expect it either doesn't have the correct initrd on the CD, or the boot loader is configured to boot the wrong initrd | 21:41 |
| NCommander | cjwatson_, are there any architecture specific bits outside of the kernel needed to start the CD? | 21:42 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson_: is it known that ubiquity in karmic has underscores on quit back and forward? | 21:43 |
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| cjwatson | NCommander: kernel, initrd, boot loader | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: should all be in debian-cd/tools/boot/karmic/boot-ia64 | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: not by me :) | 21:44 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, woo, sounds like I get the fun of setting up ubuntu-cd \o/! | 21:45 |
| NCommander | and setting up a livefs builder | 21:46 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/_install.png | 21:46 |
| cjwatson | ok, guess somebody gets the fun of debugging that at some point :) | 21:46 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: should I put a bug together so it doesn't get forgotten? | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | please do, yes | 21:47 |
| davmor2 | np's | 21:48 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: bug 399005 I added the png to :) | 21:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399005 in ubiquity "Karmic: Ubiquity has developed some underscores on buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399005 | 21:54 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: on intel because the kms is in the text for hit enter and eject cd are tiny is there anyway this can be altered or is it a set font size? | 22:13 |
| cjwatson | don't know, sorry | 22:15 |
| cjwatson | it's probably in the usplash theme | 22:15 |
| CIA-8 | user-setup: cjwatson * r194 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog user-setup-apply): | 22:16 |
| CIA-8 | user-setup: If a root user is being created so we aren't in sudo mode, configure | 22:16 |
| CIA-8 | user-setup: libgksu to use su rather than sudo. | 22:16 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: ta :) | 22:18 |
| CIA-8 | partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1217 ubuntu/ (choose_partition/lvm/do_option lib/lvm-base.sh): offer free space for automatic PV setup as well | 22:23 |
| CIA-8 | partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1218 ubuntu/lib/lvm-base.sh: local variable tidy-up | 22:31 |
| CIA-8 | partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1219 ubuntu/choose_method/lvm/choices: choose_method/lvm/choices needs lvm-base.sh, not just base.sh | 22:41 |
| CIA-8 | partman-md: cjwatson * r931 mdcfg-merge/choose_partition/md/choices: drop requirement for mdcfg to exist | 22:43 |
| xivulon | evand hi | 23:14 |
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