[00:08] <Pincy> Hey, ive got a problem with acx, wicd on connecting to an wpa secured wlan
[00:08] <Pincy> can u help me?
[00:09] <forces> do you have wpa-supplicant installed?
[00:10] <Pincy> im trying to get into with wext, whats standard in wicd. Should i try another one?
[00:13] <Pincy> does the acx-driver support wpa nowadays, cause all old threads says it doesnt
[00:15] <Pincy> but they are at least one and half a year old...
[00:28] <Pincy> now im letting him try with the atmel instead of wext and go 2 sleep ill see it tomorow
[00:40] <Pincy> hmm.... Atmel didnt crash my system, but didnt connect. Trying more with log tomorow
[04:28] <mikubuntu> omg.  trying to get this toshiba satellite to boot from cd, and it kept booting back to windows, that page that offers you safe mode, etc... of course i've been powering on and off and on and off trying different paths to a bios.  now, it wont power up at all.
[08:03] <firestarter1> hi. is there a way to automatically delete older files than one week in myFolder ? I know it can be obtained with a simple script, but I wonder if is there a GUI program (or a configuration menu) for that
[08:09] <Ou42> hello
[08:10] <Ou42> does xubuntu 9.04 have an ssh server installed and running by default?
[08:13]  * Ou42 noobie
[08:13] <Ou42> how can i check to see if an ssh server is installed and running?
[08:13] <Ou42> putty is returning "Network error: Connection refused"
[08:18] <durt> Ou42, 'ps -A | grep ssh' on the server
[08:19] <Ou42> not to be silly, but for clarity
[08:20] <Ou42> server is the xubuntu box not the vista box running xming and putty, yes?
[08:20] <Ou42> ( because the whole X w
[08:20] <Ou42> ... X Window server / client backwards thing isn't helping the noodle too much )
[08:22] <durt> Ou42, sshd is not installed by default, 'sudo apt-get install ssh'.
[08:28] <Ou42> is that the *similar* or *different* than, 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' ?
[08:31] <ocsivan> How to change Firefox settings that it does not use "Swfdec SWF player" but the already installed Adobe player?
[08:42] <Ou42> durt - thanks for the help. gonna give it a shot.
[08:43] <SiDi> Why do people leave this channel when I begin typing an answer to them ?
[10:12] <confusious> hmmmmmmmm 53 people in this room & nobody sayin shit errrrrrrr I mean stuff
[10:12] <confusious> errrrrrrrr sorry everybody
[10:12] <confusious> hmmmmm anybody really here ??
[10:13] <knome> confusious, why talk if there is nothing to say?
[10:13] <confusious> ahhhhhhhhhh
[10:13] <knome> if you have a question, just *ask* it
[10:13] <knome> !ask | confusious
[10:13] <confusious> so there IS somebody alive here heh heh
[10:13] <knome> no, actually i'm a zombie
[10:13] <ablomen> brains... hungry for brains...
[10:14] <confusious> just checkin ta see if I've got this thing sett up properly
[10:15] <confusious> everything seems to look okay fer now so fer now everybody I'ma just gonna say goodnight.gotta goto work in the morn
[10:15] <knome> okay, good night
[10:15] <confusious> thanks fer all yer help  heh heh heh
[10:26] <MaxFrames> hello
[10:27] <MaxFrames> some days ago the "weather update" applet on my panel started reporting "no data" instead of the weather report
[10:27] <MaxFrames> my internet connection is working fine.
[10:27] <MaxFrames> what can be the problem?
[10:37] <ramrod> maybe the server is down from where you fetch the weather data?
[10:39] <ramrod> hmm i just added the applet and i get also no data
[10:39] <MaxFrames> I too think the server is down
[10:40] <MaxFrames> but I cannot find confirmation on the web
[10:43] <ramrod> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin
[10:44] <ramrod> Attention: The folks at weather.com have upgraded their platform in July 2009 to make the API key mandatory. It wasn’t required previously (apart in writing), and the Weather plugin didn’t implement that before 0.6.3. You’ll need version 0.6.3 or more recent to make the Weather plugin work again.
[10:44] <ramrod> hmmm
[10:44] <ramrod> what version is in jaunty?
[10:45] <MaxFrames> dunno, how do I find out?
[10:47] <MaxFrames> ok, found. it's 0.6.2
[10:47] <MaxFrames> but sudo apt-get install xfce4-weather-plugin says it's already the latest version
[10:54] <MaxFrames> how do I update the applet to the latest version?
[10:55] <ramrod> im trying to install the newest version from http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin
[11:00] <ramrod> ok its working
[11:01] <MaxFrames> :) OK I will try to do it myself, if I fail can I ask you directions about how to install it?
[11:01] <ramrod> sure
[11:01] <MaxFrames> just a question for now: did you have to compile it, right?
[11:01] <ramrod> yes
[11:02] <MaxFrames> ok, never did it before, let's try :)
[11:02] <ramrod> ./configure then make then make install
[11:02] <ramrod> theres is an INSTALL file
[11:02] <ramrod> with an instruction
[11:02] <ramrod> and i had to install the package xfce4-panel-dev
[11:03] <ramrod> libgtk2.0-dev
[11:03] <ramrod> and intltool
[11:09] <MaxFrames> mm :(
[11:10] <MaxFrames> I typed "./configure" and it said I needed to install intltool; which I then did
[11:10] <MaxFrames> then I typed "./configure" again and apparently this step went well
[11:10] <MaxFrames> now I typed "make" and it says "no objective specified and no makefile found."
[11:11] <ramrod> hmmm, sure configure went well? what did it say in the last lines
[11:11] <MaxFrames> let me review it
[11:11] <MaxFrames> maybe I missed something
[11:14] <MaxFrames> right, I was lacking pkg-config :P
[11:16] <MaxFrames> now it says I'm lacking gtk+-2.0
[11:16] <ramrod> ah yes
[11:17] <ramrod> libgtk2.0-dev
[11:17] <ramrod> should solve that
[11:17] <MaxFrames> ok
[11:17] <ramrod> had the same
[11:17] <MaxFrames> wow, massive package that
[11:19] <ramrod> yeah...
[11:19] <ramrod> i allways google stuff like that, found it here
[11:19] <ramrod> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375866
[11:19] <MaxFrames> gosh
[11:19] <MaxFrames> now it cant find libxfce4util-1.0
[11:20] <ramrod> i had the same
[11:20] <ramrod> xfce4-panel-dev
[11:20] <ramrod> this should be the last
[11:20] <ramrod> small one
[11:20] <ramrod> ^^
[11:20] <MaxFrames> thanks, the problem is that the names of the lib and the package dont match!
[11:20] <MaxFrames> so if not for you I wouldnt have a clue
[11:20] <ramrod> right, then you have to google
[11:21] <ramrod> i found it in a german forum, here http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/xfce4-places-plugin-installationsprobleme/
[11:21] <MaxFrames> linux can really scare inexperienced people off
[11:22] <ramrod> but in the end, you have an awesome weather plugin! \o/ lol
[11:22] <ramrod> i think i'll use that too ^^
[11:22]  * MaxFrames make'ing
[11:23]  * MaxFrames sudo make install'ing
[11:25]  * MaxFrames sudo make clean'ing
[11:25] <ramrod> oh, i forgot that
[11:25] <ramrod> lol
[11:25]  * MaxFrames is now happy owner of working applet :))
[11:26] <ramrod> \0/
[11:26] <ramrod> so hows the weather at yours? *g*
[11:26] <MaxFrames> sunny with light cover
[11:28] <MaxFrames> thanks for the help :)
[11:28] <ramrod> np :)
[11:28] <MaxFrames> so now I have the tools and the knowledge to build packages :)
[11:29] <MaxFrames> 28°C and 48% humidity here
[12:51] <Pincy> Can u help me, wext is crashing my pc and atmel cant connect to my network. Im using acx drivers on actual xubuntu
[12:57] <Pincy> could the problem for the wpa-supplicant be, that the wlan is hidden?
[13:29] <Pincy> can someone help me connecting with my hidden wpa secured wlan?
[13:31] <TheSheep> they might be able to help you on #ubuntu
[13:32] <Pincy> kk, then ill try it there
[13:55] <Pincy> .... Dont even get recogniced in the channel there.
[15:21] <ToStItOs> I have a dial up connection and I wanted to know if there is a faster way to download updates
[15:26] <ToStItOs> I have a dialup connection and I wanted to know if there is a faster stable way to download updates
[15:32] <ToStItOs> I am trying to download updates but my connection during evening hours is unstable so is a alternative way to download Xubuntu updates
[15:32] <poopuser> Good morning. I've got one question : synaptic says that i have one 'broken' package. I would like to fix it however using cli not the synaptic itself. How can i do so?
[15:36] <charlie-tca> poopuser: try running 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in the terminal and see what messages it gives you
[15:37] <poopuser> charlie-tca, Thank you charlie.
[15:37] <charlie-tca> let's see what it does
[15:38] <poopuser> It does not show anything suspicious.
[15:39] <charlie-tca> nothing to autoremove; nothing to fix?
[15:40] <poopuser> No nothing. Maybe the problem fixed itself. Strange. However thank you for your input.
[15:41] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:31] <hhh2> which is the latest version of vlx for xubuntu hardy ?? 0.9.9 ?
[16:31] <hhh2> vlc *
[16:33] <th0r> hhh2: vlc 1.0 has just been released, but you have to get it from their homepage as ubuntu doesn't have it  in the repos.
[16:33] <th0r> hhh2: 9.9.9 is the latest in the repos
[16:34] <hhh2> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu hardy main
[16:34] <hhh2> i use this repo
[16:40] <SiDi_> !info vlc
[16:41] <SiDi_> !info vlc karmic
[16:41] <SiDi_> You can try the karmic package ~
[17:03] <hhh2> latest xubuntu version requires more cpu and ram?
[17:03] <hhh2> Jaunty Jackalope
[17:04] <charlie-tca> 9.04 actually uses less than hardy, I think
[17:04] <hhh2> is dangerous to update from hardy to jaunty?
[17:05] <charlie-tca> you need to upgrade in series. 8.04(hardy) to 8.10(intrepid) to 9.04(jaunty) unless you want to break a lot of things
[17:09] <hhh2> karmic will be lts?
[17:10] <forces> no
[17:11] <forces> karmic is 9.10
[17:11] <charlie-tca> no, it will be either 10.04 or 10.10, depending on gnome
[17:11] <forces> 10.04 will be LTS
[17:31] <goldrake> someone can help me for boot a pc with raid software?
[18:08] <SiDi_> hhh2: what GPU ?
[18:08] <SiDi_> If you have a Nvidia or a recent ATi you'll be safe
[18:09] <SiDi_> If you have an Intel or some SiS or ATi cards you might want to wait for Karmic before upgrading, because Jaunty will very likely not work well due to driver problems
[18:35] <moodog> evening :)
[18:38] <Araneidae> How can I stop xfce from automatically saving and restarting apps?
[18:39] <Araneidae> I have "Automatically save session on logout" in "Session and Startup" unchecked, but it still does it.
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Make sure "Save session for future logins" is unchecked when you hit the quit button
[18:39] <Araneidae> Yep, it's uncheckec
[18:40] <charlie-tca> Then delete the ~/.cache/sessions files
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Next time you login, it should not open anything then
[18:41] <Araneidae> Getting a bit tired of doing that.  Seems I have to delete that every time I log out
[18:41] <Araneidae> I've also got a problem where xfce has decided to start placing one of my application's windows, can't figure out why...
[18:43] <charlie-tca> I don't understand that question
[18:44] <Araneidae> Well, do you know where xfce stores the state for windows it decides to store positions for?
[18:45] <Araneidae> Normally when I start a program the first launched window is placed on the  terminal where the mouse rests.
[18:45] <charlie-tca> let me look
[18:45] <Araneidae> This particular program always ends up being launched in the (wrong) terminal
[18:45] <Araneidae> sorry, "terminal" isn't the right word, "screen" is possibly better
[18:46] <charlie-tca> It would most likly start in the screen with focus, which is normally where the mouse is
[18:46] <Araneidae> Yes, that's what I mean
[18:46] <Araneidae> Unfortunately this one window always starts in screen 0
[18:47] <Araneidae> started doing it a little while ago, I probably typed some key bound to an xfce function
[18:48] <Araneidae> Is there any documentation for where xfce keeps its settings?  I've had poor luck in searching for it...
[18:49] <charlie-tca> Yes, I use the docs in /usr/share/xfce4/doc
[18:49] <Araneidae> Well, there's nothing in there about where settings are stored
[18:49] <charlie-tca> Also, there is some good information in /usr/share/xfce4/tips
[18:50] <Araneidae> Oh, that's an interesting list of random factoids!
[18:50] <charlie-tca> This should be where everything is stored: file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/xfce4-session.html#files-and-env-vars
[18:50] <charlie-tca> For Xubuntu, that is normally ~/.config
[18:50] <Araneidae> Ah, yes, found ~/.config/
[18:51] <Araneidae> I guess the xfce4 directory is most relevant...
[18:51] <charlie-tca> The window information is stored in ~/.cache/sessions
[18:51] <Araneidae> Huh.  I've just deleted that.  Let me try my program again...
[18:52] <Araneidae> Yep, starts in screen 0 even though the terminal I use to launch it and the mouse are in screen 1! Grr.
[18:52] <Araneidae> And ~/.cache/sessions is gone
[18:52] <charlie-tca> What program?
[18:53] <Araneidae> It's a program lauchned from Wine, a game
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Are you using compiz?
[18:53] <Araneidae> no, interacts horribly with wine!
[18:53] <charlie-tca> Is wine already running?
[18:53] <Araneidae> No, I'm launching it afresh each time
[18:54] <Araneidae> Curiously, if I run other apps from the same wine prefix they come up in the expected screen
[18:54] <Araneidae> Not sure what to search for in the config files
[18:57] <charlie-tca> I don't know either, maybe talk to the wine maintainer/developers. I know he is quite open for helping people
[18:58] <charlie-tca> It almost sounds like the app is misbehaving...
[18:58] <charlie-tca> Other programs are working correctly, it is something to do with that one application
[18:58] <Araneidae> It's very odd.
[18:59] <Araneidae> It'd be nice to trace the communication with xfce.  There isn't some kind of useful logging option, is there?
[19:00] <charlie-tca> check in ~/.xsession-errors . That is the log of messages when using the desktop
[19:00] <charlie-tca> It won't all be errors, though
[19:00] <Araneidae> It's a bit short!
[19:01] <charlie-tca> wishing mine was
[19:01] <Araneidae> Lots of getBoolValue assertion errors, and that's about it
[19:01] <Araneidae> That's it: http://pastebin.com/d77ff68f
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Nothing jumps out at me exept the entry for kubuntu. Did you install Kubuntu and Xubuntu-desktop?
[19:03] <Araneidae> Once upon a time.
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I wonder if it isn't storing the setting under kubuntu defaults for some reason?
[19:04] <Araneidae> Yes, I started with Ubunut, tried Kubuntu (kubuntu-desktop) briefly and hated, so then installed kubuntu-desktop finally.
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I don't honestly know, though
[19:04] <Araneidae> Interesting possibility...
[19:04] <charlie-tca> look in ~/.gnome and .gnome2 also
[19:05] <Araneidae> Hm.. Definitely got both of those...
[19:05] <charlie-tca> anything about wine or xfce in either one?
[19:06] <Araneidae> Think the simplest thing is to move them to one side and see if anything breaks.
[19:06] <charlie-tca> sure
[19:07] <Araneidae> There's an astonishing amount of stuff in ~/.gnome2
[19:07] <charlie-tca> heh, that's gnome, alright
[19:10] <pteague_work> i'm having all sorts of fun today...  i plug my headphones in & the speakers work, not the headphones... unplug the headphones & speakers go off
[19:10] <charlie-tca> \o/
[19:17] <charlie-tca> pteague: #ubuntu-audio-help is really good with audio issues
[19:37] <Brandon_X_Fox> hello everyone I am having a problem, I am trying to get the photos off of my Canon Powershot a1000IS, it is recognized in lsusb, I just need to access it to obtain the photos. Thanks for the help.
[19:39] <Brandon_X_Fox> and the version I am using is xubuntu 9.04 just for additional information.
[19:44]  * Brandon_X_Fox wonders if anyone is alive
[19:44] <charlie-tca> !patience
[19:45] <Brandon_X_Fox> thanks for the reminder\
[19:45] <charlie-tca> I don't know about the rest, but I am pretty sure I am not alive anymore
[19:46] <knome> charlie-tca, ;)
[19:46]  * charlie-tca can't vouch for anyone else
[19:46] <knome> Brandon_X_Fox, do you see a media icon at the thunar side pane?
[19:47] <zoredache> Personally, I have found that it is much easier to simply buy a media reader sd/cf/whatever instead of trying to connect a camera directly...
[19:47] <Brandon_X_Fox> no I do not, usually when you mount a camera it would appear on the desktop, this one does not. the cameras display stays on showing only one picture and does not say it is connected, yet it is recognized via lsusb.
[19:58] <Brandon_X_Fox> how much do usb sd card readers cost?
[19:58] <zoredache> last one I purchased was $7 at the local best buy
[19:59] <zoredache> i have seen them between 10-25 usually
[19:59] <Brandon_X_Fox> Do they work with older pcs?
[20:00] <zoredache> my experience has been that they will work on anything with a usb port
[20:00] <Brandon_X_Fox> Because I'm running a 933mhz cpu, 256mb ram, 40gb computer, so I am just curious
[20:01] <pteague_work> does the bot have a url for mapping keys for things like audio volume & such?
[20:12] <crazygir> I have a network interface used for vbox. To do some of the testing I am doing, I need to set this up as a bridged interface, although this ties up the device when the vm and bridge are running. Could I create virtual interfaces for this device, which then get their own ethernetr bridge/tap setup?
[20:13] <crazygir> ..how would you go about doing this?
[20:21] <pteague_work> you should be able to add another ethernet device to the vm & bridge that or are you needing it on the host?
[20:22] <crazygir> I have one device for the host, I have a seconde just for vms
[20:23] <crazygir> I thought one tap/br one vm?
[20:24] <pteague_work> i've not messed with virtualbox a whole lot, but i would think you could set it up to use any particular physical or virtual device on the host
[20:25] <pteague_work> in the virtual machine (at least what i saw on the mac), virtualbox let's you set up to 4 different ethernet devices
[20:25] <pteague_work> you'll have to stop the vm, go into the configuration section for the vm, networking tab & add or enable them
[21:05] <n2diy> is there a special command for opening Thunar as root? With Gnome it is gksudo.
[21:06] <knome> n2diy, the same.
[21:06] <n2diy> knome: thanks
[21:13] <pteague_work> ?keyboard
[21:14] <pteague_work> !keyboard
[21:14] <pteague_work> !shortcuts
[21:16] <planetary> hello?
[21:16] <planetary> need some help, should be quick
[21:17] <charlie-tca> !hi | planetary
[21:17] <planetary> thanks
[21:17] <charlie-tca> !question
[21:17] <planetary> sounds good
[21:18] <planetary> ok, so i am having trouble installing the alsa update. i am not good with .tar files.
[21:19] <planetary> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046137&highlight=alsa
[21:19] <planetary> i am in root and the cd ~desktop says it doesnt exist and the other 2 steps dont work
[21:22] <charlie-tca> if you are in root, you need to use /home/planetary/Desktop/FILE
[21:23] <charlie-tca> Your desktop and root desktop are different areas
[21:25] <planetary> i see. does it make any difference that the home is on a seperate partition
[21:26] <charlie-tca> nope
[21:28] <planetary> i still get
[21:28] <planetary> root@Tualatin:~# cd /home/alex/desktop/AlsaUpgrade-1.0.x-rev-1.17.tar
[21:28] <planetary> -bash: cd: /home/alex/desktop/AlsaUpgrade-1.0.x-rev-1.17.tar: No such file or directory
[21:28] <charlie-tca> Because you can not cd into the tar file. Try cd /home/alex/Desktop
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Then do ls
[21:29] <planetary> oh ok, whats cd
[21:29] <charlie-tca> change directory
[21:29] <planetary> and does the capital D matter
[21:29] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:29] <planetary> ahh
[21:30] <charlie-tca> linux is very aware of the case
[21:30] <charlie-tca> do 'ls' and see if the .tar file is there
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Then go to step 3
[21:32] <planetary> ok i did it. dit step 4
[21:32] <planetary> thanks
[21:32] <charlie-tca> Great! You are welcome
[21:43] <planetary> cool. this chat thing is a great idea
[21:43] <charlie-tca> yeah
[21:45] <planetary> thanks again i may be back
[22:52] <compilerwriter> Does xubuntu have the same upgrade problems with my nvidia MX 420 as Kubuntu does?
[22:54] <compilerwriter> not many people here I see.
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Not many people can answer your question. What drivers does the video card use?
[22:55] <compilerwriter> in kubuntu I am using nvidia-glx-96 for Ibex.  They seem to have dropped support for the card in Jaunty which uses glx-180
[22:56] <charlie-tca> It is probably not kubuntu dropping support. It is most likely nvidia dropping it
[22:56] <charlie-tca> I have two nvidia cards here, and they both work fine
[22:56] <compilerwriter> what cards are you using?
[22:56] <charlie-tca> But, mine use the 180 latest drivers
[22:57] <charlie-tca> 86ooGT
[22:57] <charlie-tca> I don't know off the top of my head, but I suspect if the driver is no longer supported, it is not going to be in any distribution
[22:58] <compilerwriter> Well unfortunately 180 doesn't support the 420 though.
[22:58] <charlie-tca> Will it work with the nv driver
[22:58] <compilerwriter> Jaunty doesn't work with nvidia 96 well at all.
[22:59] <charlie-tca> That then becomes a problem. Although, Kubuntu is more resource intensive that Xubuntu.
[23:00] <compilerwriter> I have found a 6200 for sale at a price of $89.00 that should be supported by 180, but I'm not sure the card is worth that much.
[23:00] <charlie-tca> Have you tried the envyng driver?
[23:01] <compilerwriter> As I understood envy just selected the right driver for you.  It is not a package so much as a software that identifies your card and gets you the latest driver for it.  Am I mistaken?
[23:01] <charlie-tca> Could be you are right, I am not that familiar with the stuff
[23:01] <compilerwriter> I think I tried nvidia-envy though as well.
[23:02] <compilerwriter> Do you happen to know what the highest card that will fit agp is?
[23:02] <compilerwriter> s/highest/newest
[23:03] <jbk`>  the best
[23:03] <charlie-tca> no idea
[23:03] <jbk`> is prolly
[23:03] <jbk`> R3850
[23:05] <compilerwriter> jbk`: was that your input to my graphics card question?
[23:07] <charlie-tca> Yes, it was
[23:08] <goldrake> good night
[23:22] <capleton> Hello, I hope this is working...   I'm new to Xubuntu and have a question...
[23:23] <capleton> I'm trying to figure out how to change the size of Task List entries
[23:24] <capleton> i use a netbook and right now if I only have one thing open, it looks disproportionately large :-(   Any ideas?