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mac_v | mpt: ... i really have to appreciate your patience , kudos... still replying in Bug 332945 :) | 14:50 |
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mpt | :) | 14:50 |
mac_v | mpt: would you consider implementing Vincenzo's Idea? > https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00266.html | 14:55 |
mac_v | would that be easy for a Karmic+1 cycle? | 14:55 |
mpt | mac_v, the basic problem with that proposal is described here: http://usablesecurity.com/2005/07/23/simon-says/ | 14:57 |
djsiegel_ | danrabbit: I marked two papercuts in round-3 as affecting humanity | 14:57 |
djsiegel_ | just so you can have icons ready | 14:57 |
mac_v | ah... a valid point :) | 15:01 |
mac_v | mpt: may i suggest renaming the update-notifier daemon > update-manager daemon . since its now working just as an update manger daemon, and there is no notifier | 15:05 |
mpt | mac_v, that makes sense to me. It might even make sense to merge them into a single program, I don't know. | 15:06 |
mac_v | its just that a daemon named differently ,opening a different named app , creeps out users | 15:07 |
mac_v | your idea also sounds good | 15:08 |
* SiDi doesn't think a desktop app and a daemon should have the same name ~ | 15:11 | |
mac_v | ;p | 15:12 |
mpt | Does that make evolution-data-server bad too? | 15:12 |
SiDi | no idea, i dont have evolution installed | 15:13 |
mac_v | but evolution is the default email/calander app, and it does have a calender and address book | 15:15 |
* mac_v used to actually hate not being able to remove it ;p | 15:16 | |
mac_v | mpt: initially "evolution" in the name confused me, wondered why evolution was still in the system even after i removed "evolution mail client", only later i realized what it was for | 15:19 |
mpt | I guess the distinction is that evolution-data-server is used for purposes other than Evolution. But update-notifier exists only to open update-manager. | 15:20 |
mac_v | yeah, i got that about evolution only later... | 15:21 |
danrabbit | djsiegel: is that 2 papercuts that I need to fix or two papercuts that I *have* fixed? | 15:21 |
danrabbit | djsiegel_: ^ | 15:22 |
danrabbit | Ah, I think I've discovered the two. Nautilus and Folders? | 15:29 |
danrabbit | If so, one is solved and the other is kind of upstream and I can't really do anything about it :p | 15:29 |
mac_v | danrabbit: are you involved in Humanity icon set? | 15:30 |
danrabbit | yep, I started it | 15:31 |
mac_v | danrabbit: why have all the icons been done in svg, and why is the max size only 48px? | 15:32 |
mac_v | just out of curiosity , why the theme has been done so | 15:33 |
danrabbit | Well, SVG is just easier to work with | 15:33 |
danrabbit | I can distribute the source and the working theme at the same time | 15:33 |
danrabbit | so for collaboration, it's much easier. | 15:33 |
danrabbit | Also, in a lot of cases, I can get the file size of an SVG icon very very small in comparison to a PNG | 15:34 |
mac_v | oh...ok... because breathe has been doing svg source and rendering them in png, | 15:34 |
danrabbit | Yea it just removes a step | 15:35 |
danrabbit | Also, I can copy my symlinks across all sizes and that removes quite a bit of work | 15:35 |
danrabbit | In your case it might not be as beneficial | 15:35 |
danrabbit | elementary typically does not have as many elements as breath, I think | 15:36 |
mac_v | i have been having a problem with a 48px svg not rendering properly , the shape gets distorted, but as a png the shape comes out well, why is that? | 15:36 |
mac_v | danrabbit: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/PNG.png , http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/SVG.png , any thoughts? | 15:37 |
MacSlow | SiDi, if you interested I pushed a bit more of the current blur/surface-cache work to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~macslow/notify-osd/blur-cache (also with tests/examples using the new APIs) | 15:43 |
MacSlow | SiDi, integration with notify-osd is still in the works | 15:43 |
SiDi | MacSlow: i'll have a look | 15:43 |
SiDi | I didnt understand what the tests were doing though MacSlow | 15:44 |
SiDi | MacSlow: i had a look at the code for XFCE integration, i can port the whole gconf stuff to xfconf if you're ok with it; Apparently the xubuntu devs should accept to ship a notify-osd-xfce package | 15:44 |
SiDi | (when i say port, i mean as a compiling option. #ifndef __USE_XFCE <gconf code> #else <xfconf_code> #endif) | 15:45 |
MacSlow | SiDi, as long as that will be a compile time-switch I'm fine with it | 15:45 |
SiDi | okey great | 15:45 |
SiDi | MacSlow: why does notify-osd use 15MB ram ? what makes it weight so much ? | 15:48 |
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MacSlow | SiDi, 3.2 MBytes here | 15:51 |
SiDi | wow, there is something wrong | 15:52 |
SiDi | 32 or 64bits, MacSlow ? | 15:52 |
MacSlow | on a AMD64 system | 15:52 |
mac_v | SiDi: 3.1 for me in 32bit | 15:52 |
SiDi | Ok then i have a problem | 15:52 |
SiDi | Does it use many gnome shared libraries ? | 15:53 |
SiDi | Cause i'm on XFCE (but i recall it used to be around 6MB on the same system in April) | 15:53 |
* SiDi reinstalled, 9MB now... weird | 15:54 | |
MacSlow | SiDi, it needs cairo, glib and gtk of course | 15:54 |
MacSlow | and that's it | 15:54 |
SiDi | We use all of this :| | 15:54 |
SiDi | and we even use gconf somewhere else | 15:54 |
SiDi | I'll check this out with a clean install later then | 15:55 |
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djsiegel_ | danrabbit: how is humanity work coming? | 21:12 |
danrabbit | Are you referring to those two bugs you marked me for? | 21:12 |
djsiegel_ | no | 21:13 |
djsiegel_ | just in general | 21:13 |
danrabbit | I need to sync some changes from elementary. | 21:13 |
danrabbit | I think I may have some things to recolor lurking around | 21:14 |
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