=== mrooney1 is now known as mrooney === GreySim_ is now known as GreySim === Wajih is now known as MaWaLe [12:16] * MacSlow -> lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === mac_vr is now known as macvre === mac_vr is now known as macvre === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === macvr is now known as mac_v === mac_v is now known as mac_V === mac_V is now known as mac_v_ === mac_v_ is now known as mac_V_ === mac_V_ is now known as mac_v === mac_v is now known as mac__v === mac__v is now known as mac_v [14:50] mpt: ... i really have to appreciate your patience , kudos... still replying in Bug 332945 :) [14:50] :) [14:55] mpt: would you consider implementing Vincenzo's Idea? > https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg00266.html [14:55] would that be easy for a Karmic+1 cycle? [14:57] mac_v, the basic problem with that proposal is described here: http://usablesecurity.com/2005/07/23/simon-says/ [14:57] danrabbit: I marked two papercuts in round-3 as affecting humanity [14:57] just so you can have icons ready [15:01] ah... a valid point :) [15:05] mpt: may i suggest renaming the update-notifier daemon > update-manager daemon . since its now working just as an update manger daemon, and there is no notifier [15:06] mac_v, that makes sense to me. It might even make sense to merge them into a single program, I don't know. [15:07] its just that a daemon named differently ,opening a different named app , creeps out users [15:08] your idea also sounds good [15:11] * SiDi doesn't think a desktop app and a daemon should have the same name ~ [15:12] ;p [15:12] Does that make evolution-data-server bad too? [15:13] no idea, i dont have evolution installed [15:15] but evolution is the default email/calander app, and it does have a calender and address book [15:16] * mac_v used to actually hate not being able to remove it ;p [15:19] mpt: initially "evolution" in the name confused me, wondered why evolution was still in the system even after i removed "evolution mail client", only later i realized what it was for [15:20] I guess the distinction is that evolution-data-server is used for purposes other than Evolution. But update-notifier exists only to open update-manager. [15:21] yeah, i got that about evolution only later... [15:21] djsiegel: is that 2 papercuts that I need to fix or two papercuts that I *have* fixed? [15:22] djsiegel_: ^ [15:29] Ah, I think I've discovered the two. Nautilus and Folders? [15:29] If so, one is solved and the other is kind of upstream and I can't really do anything about it :p [15:30] danrabbit: are you involved in Humanity icon set? [15:31] yep, I started it [15:32] danrabbit: why have all the icons been done in svg, and why is the max size only 48px? [15:33] just out of curiosity , why the theme has been done so [15:33] Well, SVG is just easier to work with [15:33] I can distribute the source and the working theme at the same time [15:33] so for collaboration, it's much easier. [15:34] Also, in a lot of cases, I can get the file size of an SVG icon very very small in comparison to a PNG [15:34] oh...ok... because breathe has been doing svg source and rendering them in png, [15:35] Yea it just removes a step [15:35] Also, I can copy my symlinks across all sizes and that removes quite a bit of work [15:35] In your case it might not be as beneficial [15:36] elementary typically does not have as many elements as breath, I think [15:36] i have been having a problem with a 48px svg not rendering properly , the shape gets distorted, but as a png the shape comes out well, why is that? [15:37] danrabbit: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/PNG.png , http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/SVG.png , any thoughts? [15:43] SiDi, if you interested I pushed a bit more of the current blur/surface-cache work to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~macslow/notify-osd/blur-cache (also with tests/examples using the new APIs) [15:43] SiDi, integration with notify-osd is still in the works [15:43] MacSlow: i'll have a look [15:44] I didnt understand what the tests were doing though MacSlow [15:44] MacSlow: i had a look at the code for XFCE integration, i can port the whole gconf stuff to xfconf if you're ok with it; Apparently the xubuntu devs should accept to ship a notify-osd-xfce package [15:45] (when i say port, i mean as a compiling option. #ifndef __USE_XFCE #else #endif) [15:45] SiDi, as long as that will be a compile time-switch I'm fine with it [15:45] okey great [15:48] MacSlow: why does notify-osd use 15MB ram ? what makes it weight so much ? === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [15:51] SiDi, 3.2 MBytes here [15:52] wow, there is something wrong [15:52] 32 or 64bits, MacSlow ? [15:52] on a AMD64 system [15:52] SiDi: 3.1 for me in 32bit [15:52] Ok then i have a problem [15:53] Does it use many gnome shared libraries ? [15:53] Cause i'm on XFCE (but i recall it used to be around 6MB on the same system in April) [15:54] * SiDi reinstalled, 9MB now... weird [15:54] SiDi, it needs cairo, glib and gtk of course [15:54] and that's it [15:54] We use all of this :| [15:54] and we even use gconf somewhere else [15:55] I'll check this out with a clean install later then === vorian is now known as OldSchool === macvr is now known as mac_v === OldSchool is now known as FurieuxV === FurieuxV is now known as Effexor [21:12] danrabbit: how is humanity work coming? [21:12] Are you referring to those two bugs you marked me for? [21:13] no [21:13] just in general [21:13] I need to sync some changes from elementary. [21:14] I think I may have some things to recolor lurking around === Effexor is now known as vorian