| wgrant | Has it appeared in your PPA yet? | 00:00 |
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| smo__ | no | 00:02 |
| smo__ | i just finished sending my 4 signed deb... | 00:02 |
| smo__ | waiting now | 00:03 |
| wgrant | You uploaded .debs as well? | 00:04 |
| wgrant | You'll get an email of rejection in a moment, then. | 00:04 |
| smo__ | ah | 00:06 |
| smo__ | received somemails | 00:06 |
| smo__ | i check | 00:06 |
| smo__ | Rejected: | 00:06 |
| smo__ | Unable to find distroseries: stable | 00:06 |
| smo__ | ok | 00:06 |
| wgrant | That's not what I was expecting. | 00:06 |
| smo__ | deb not well done "normal" | 00:06 |
| wgrant | Pardon? | 00:06 |
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| smo__ | this was my first debian packages | 00:07 |
| wgrant | The error about the distroseries is because 'stable' is a Debian series. You need to upload to an Ubuntu one - 'jaunty', for example. | 00:07 |
| wgrant | And how did you build the package? debuild? | 00:07 |
| smo__ | hum, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc | 00:08 |
| smo__ | ... | 00:08 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 00:08 |
| wgrant | '-us -uc' means "don't sign this!" | 00:08 |
| wgrant | so omit those. | 00:08 |
| wgrant | Omit -D too; it's a default option. | 00:09 |
| smo__ | best is debuild? | 00:09 |
| wgrant | It doesn't really matter. | 00:09 |
| wgrant | I build with 'debuild -S -sa' | 00:09 |
| smo__ | ok | 00:09 |
| wgrant | That does a source-only build, and signs it. | 00:09 |
| smo__ | ok i try | 00:09 |
| wgrant | You might need -kKEYID as well, if your key doesn't match your package. | 00:10 |
| smo__ | ok | 00:10 |
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| smo__ | wgrant, a small question, when i use debuild -S -sa i dont have .deb | 00:57 |
| smo__ | normal? | 00:57 |
| wgrant | smo__: Correct. You can only upload source packages to Launchpad - it will build the .debs there. | 00:58 |
| smo__ | ah nice | 00:59 |
| smo__ | i try | 00:59 |
| smo__ | Successfully uploaded packages. | 01:03 |
| smo__ | i think this one we ll be good ^^ | 01:04 |
| wgrant | Got the email yet? | 01:05 |
| smo__ | no, waiting | 01:05 |
| smo__ | [PPA s-lagui] [ubuntu/jaunty] gstyle 0.1 (Accepted) | 01:05 |
| smo__ | ^^ | 01:05 |
| smo__ | thx a lot wgrant | 01:05 |
| wgrant | Excellent! | 01:06 |
| wgrant | Now to see if it builds. | 01:06 |
| smo__ | i have to upload and redo sources for missing perl libraries missing in ubuntu... | 01:06 |
| smo__ | (sorry for my english..) | 01:07 |
| wgrant | What do you mean? | 01:07 |
| wgrant | What's missing? | 01:07 |
| wgrant | Aha, it built. | 01:07 |
| smo__ | some perl libraries i use are not in ubuntu repository | 01:07 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 01:07 |
| jml | what's the deal with all the bug mail? | 03:36 |
| SamB | jml: I only sent one today... | 03:37 |
| wgrant | jml: I got annoyed with some of my bugs waiting in 'launchpad' for 6 months. So I redirected mine and a few others, as CHR people don't seem to be doing it for months at a time. | 03:38 |
| wgrant | Nobody triages those bugs :( | 03:38 |
| SamB | ... and that was a bzr bug | 03:38 |
| SamB | wgrant: you need more medical personel, maybe? | 03:39 |
| jml | wgrant, it's not listed as a CHR task -- which goes some way to explaining why CHR people haven't been doing it :) | 03:39 |
| wgrant | I'm sure somebody told me it was. | 03:41 |
| jml | wgrant, anyway, thanks for JFDIing it. I'll mail the dev list to see what's going on & avoid a backlog in future. | 03:41 |
| wgrant | jml: It takes about 10 seconds a bug, and it seems similar to processing Answers, so IMO it would fit well with CHR. | 03:42 |
| jml | agreed. | 03:44 |
| SamB | what's CHR? | 03:45 |
| SamB | some kind of synonym for RTS? | 03:45 |
| SamB | or do I mean RSD? | 03:45 |
| lifeless | community help roster | 03:46 |
| wgrant | Rotation, actually. | 03:46 |
| wgrant | https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation | 03:46 |
| mwhudson | nearly at 400k bugs ... | 04:56 |
| wgrant | Yep. | 04:56 |
| wgrant | Late tomorrowish, I suspect. | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | wgrant: mass bug-filing time? | 05:22 |
| wgrant | ajmitch: I've already filed ten bugs today :( | 05:25 |
| MT- | nice.. | 05:28 |
| MT- | how many bugs are in launchpad total? | 05:28 |
| ajmitch | bug numbers are approaching 400k | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | which includes the hundreds of duplicates people file, etc | 05:30 |
| wgrant | And only a few of the intermediate numbers are missing. | 05:30 |
| wgrant | Bug #1000 was hit 4 years ago yesterday. | 05:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1000 in ubuntu "There are too many bug reports in Malone" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000 | 05:31 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 05:32 |
| wgrant | I'm a month off. | 05:32 |
| * wgrant can't count, see. | 05:32 | |
| ajmitch | what worries me is that I remember mpt filing that bug at the time | 05:33 |
| * wgrant is glad to see all of the bugs he retargeted into sinzui's domain this morning already triaged. | 05:39 | |
| micahg | hmmm | 05:51 |
| micahg | almost 400k | 05:52 |
| micahg | are the karma recalculators not working? | 07:18 |
| spm | wgrant: you'll be pleased to note we have successfully updated edge :-) | 07:20 |
| wgrant | spm: Excellent. Thanks. | 07:22 |
| wgrant | Inline bugtask editing... shiny. | 07:23 |
| wgrant | And my scripts no longer crash. This is good. | 07:26 |
| spm | micahg: they should be working. the latest runs should be finishing any minute now. | 07:30 |
| micahg | ok | 07:31 |
| micahg | thanks | 07:31 |
| micahg | I noticed the new update, status is AJAXy | 07:31 |
| wgrant | Why do the status/importance popups not have the usual header styles? | 07:37 |
| wgrant | They look pretty strange now with the unbold title and large gap at the top. | 07:37 |
| poolie | !!!! inline status omg | 07:41 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:41 |
| wgrant | poolie: Yes! It is awesome! | 07:41 |
| poolie | sadly it comes to an abrupt end when you want to target a milestone but anyhow | 07:41 |
| wgrant | Although it'll stuff up the inline activity log :( | 07:41 |
| poolie | it won't update til you reload? | 07:42 |
| poolie | oh and it doesn't seem to group them | 07:42 |
| wgrant | Right. | 07:42 |
| wgrant | On both. | 07:42 |
| wgrant | But the latter is the main problem. | 07:42 |
| wgrant | It seems to only group changes and comments that happened at the same instant. | 07:42 |
| poolie | i think there's a separate bug saying it should group as much as possible? | 07:42 |
| wgrant | There is. | 07:43 |
| poolie | ooh, fail | 07:43 |
| wgrant | Ideally using the same algorithm as email batching, I suppose... | 07:43 |
| poolie | if you then unfold the thingy to set the milestone it undoes your status changes | 07:43 |
| poolie | so sad | 07:43 |
| wgrant | Ah, the good old midair collision bug. But colliding with yourself. | 07:44 |
| wgrant | Although I suppose this one is fairly easily fixable by just setting that widget as well. | 07:44 |
| wgrant | And I guess the expandy bit might go away entirely once everything's inline-editable. | 07:44 |
| spiv | The email batching is pretty unsophisticated, really :) | 07:45 |
| spiv | Off the top of my head I would think the web presentation of updates could do better than that. | 07:45 |
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| wgrant | True. | 07:45 |
| maco | thank you launchpad people for adding the ajaxy bug status stuff! | 07:49 |
| mvo | the new bug status change is really nice, well done! | 08:22 |
| maco | ooooh im gonna start counting to see how many come in to say that. | 08:22 |
| wgrant | maco: You missed three from before you arrived. | 08:25 |
| maco | wow, popular feature | 08:25 |
| maco | so 5 so far then | 08:25 |
| yurikoles | how report a bug in ppa package? | 09:00 |
| maco | yurikoles, can't | 09:01 |
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| mpt | bug 179873 | 09:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 179873 in malone "Can't report bugs on PPA packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179873 | 09:38 |
| svqyqb | http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa | 09:39 |
| bigjools | james_w, wgrant: is getPublishedSources() behaving today? | 10:05 |
| james_w | bigjools: it appears to be, yes | 10:06 |
| james_w | thank you | 10:06 |
| bigjools | cool | 10:08 |
| bigjools | james_w: sorry it took so long to push out, edge updates were stopped for a security fix cherry pick. I'm going to see if we can get a more stable api service put on lp.net as well. | 10:09 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Working fine for me too. | 10:09 |
| bigjools | good good | 10:09 |
| wgrant | Is it actually defined when the API will be un-beta? | 10:10 |
| bigjools | no | 10:10 |
| wgrant | Presumably it will never actually be stable. | 10:10 |
| bigjools | there's a not insignificant amount of work to do to support multiple API versions | 10:10 |
| bigjools | but we can put an api service on lp.net for now which will prevent you from having to QA our changes for us :) | 10:10 |
| wgrant | By 'when' I don't mean time, but other criteria. | 10:11 |
| bigjools | not my area, but I think it's known what needs to be done, it's just not scheduled | 10:11 |
| james_w | bigjools: I think I would still run against edge, but having lp.net as a fallback would be useful | 10:11 |
| james_w | if we just run against production then we have no recourse when the changes land there | 10:12 |
| bigjools | james_w: there's a slight risk that you'll start using edge features before they are ready on lp.net | 10:12 |
| james_w | so, I support your proposal, but I for one will continue to QA :-) | 10:12 |
| bigjools | james_w: awesome, can you fill out my QA wiki as well :D | 10:13 |
| james_w | presumably there will be a lp.net/+apidoc to go along with edge.lp.net/+apidoc | 10:13 |
| james_w | heh | 10:13 |
| bigjools | yep | 10:13 |
| geser | how hard would it be to add to +apidoc a TOC with a list of all objects? I've to use the Firefox page search for navigation | 10:20 |
| wgrant | I generally edit the URL, so +1 | 10:20 |
| intellectronica | geser: not hard. if you are not afraid of XSLT you'll even be able to do it yourself soon ;) | 10:21 |
| bigjools | thanks for filling my inbox with bugmail today wgrant :) | 10:22 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: We can do it ourselves now, it seems. It's in lp:launchpadlib | 10:22 |
| intellectronica | oh of course, forgot that it's there | 10:23 |
| wgrant | It seems like a very strange place to have it. | 10:23 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Sorry. | 10:23 |
| bigjools | wgrant: heh, it's fine, I appreciate you taking the time | 10:24 |
| intellectronica | i actually rather it didn't change. i also use firefox search-as-you-type, and if every item will be mentioned twice on the page i'll have more to type before i find the real definition | 10:24 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: and yes, thanks for the help with moving all those bugs. reading through them now | 10:24 |
| wgrant | intellectronica: But they're already mentioned many times, as methods say something like "Returns a collection of _foo_bars_" | 10:24 |
| intellectronica | sure, that will be just one more time. anyway, i don't really care that much, and i appreciate many users do prefer more traditional navigation :) | 10:25 |
| wgrant | Remind me never to go near XSLT again. | 10:42 |
| geser | wgrant: that bad? | 10:42 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: it is one of the more perverse languages out there, indeed | 10:42 |
| wgrant | It was easy enough to work out, but it's horrendously ugly and verbose. | 10:43 |
| intellectronica | wgrant: bear in mind, the resulting code is probably less verbose than it would be had you wanted to do the same xml->xml transformation using other languages | 10:44 |
| wgrant | And I'm not sure I like how the for-each looks at its first children for stuff to us in its calculations. | 10:44 |
| wgrant | True. | 10:44 |
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| * mpt goes on a bug-reporting bender | 12:19 | |
| wgrant | mpt: Have you been double-clicking on statuses of some of my bugs? | 12:29 |
| mpt | wgrant, only two, I'm sorry, the change wasn't on staging yet | 12:30 |
| mpt | reported bug 399236 about it | 12:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399236 in malone "Double-clicking status or importance value usually changes it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399236 | 12:30 |
| wgrant | ... and there's the email about that bug. | 12:30 |
| wgrant | Hopefully staging will update tonight. | 12:31 |
| mpt | ah, bother, did it by accident that time :-/ | 12:34 |
| wgrant | Heh. | 12:35 |
| wgrant | cprov: Is depwait retrying really in launchpad-buildd territory? | 12:53 |
| cprov | wgrant: as I understood the bug, it would be easier if the buildd identifies the situation itself and return the appropriate depwait value. | 12:55 |
| wgrant | cprov: That wouldn't work. If the buildd knew what the solution was, there would be no problem. | 12:55 |
| cprov | wgrant: maybe it has implications in both sides, I'm not entirely sure. | 12:55 |
| wgrant | cprov: Nothing provides the virtual package at that point, so the buildd can't know what will in future. | 12:56 |
| wgrant | The build log there is from a successful build. | 12:56 |
| cprov | wgrant: I was under the impression that 'apt' would know better than soyuz how to deal with virtual packages. | 12:59 |
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| wgrant | cprov: Well, of course. Soyuz doesn't know how to do it at all. | 13:00 |
| wgrant | But the problem here is that apt doesn't know it's a virtual package at the time of the build. | 13:00 |
| wgrant | It just knows the package doesn't exist. | 13:00 |
| cprov | wgrant: no, the model doesn't know about 'provided' packages | 13:00 |
| wgrant | Right. That's the problem. | 13:01 |
| wgrant | It cannot be solved in launchpad-buildd. | 13:01 |
| wgrant | cprov: How does the code work now? The cron job just checks each depwait build's missing name and version against published binaries? | 13:09 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, it should also check for virtual packages | 13:10 |
| wgrant | cprov: And I think you do have that information at least somewhere, because BPR pages show lots of fields. | 13:10 |
| cprov | wgrant: right, BPR.provides would list virtual packages | 13:12 |
| cprov | wgrant: published BPR providing X ... probably | 13:12 |
| wgrant | cprov: Right, it needn't be any more complicated than that, because it's for apt to work out. | 13:13 |
| wgrant | And there's no versioning to worry about with Provides. | 13:13 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, if a matching 'provided' package was found we re-dispatch the build and let apt work again, if there is any version-issue it will come back. | 13:14 |
| wgrant | cprov: No, better than that. If the dependency is versioned, a virtual package cannot satisfy it. | 13:16 |
| cprov | wgrant: good point, because Provides: elments are not versioned (or are they? let me check debian policy) | 13:18 |
| wgrant | cprov: Debian Policy 7.5 | 13:18 |
| wgrant | cprov: Provides are unversioned. | 13:18 |
| cprov | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual | 13:19 |
| cprov | righto, thank you. | 13:19 |
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| apw | if i am not going mad, i think ppa uploads have stopped being processed | 17:06 |
| apw | or at least taking over an hour | 17:06 |
| bigjools | apw: I will check | 17:10 |
| apw | bigjools, thanks | 17:10 |
| bigjools | apw: it looks ok, did your upload take a long time to get processed? | 17:11 |
| apw | i still don't have either a yes or a no in email from it | 17:11 |
| bigjools | apw: did you sign it with a key known to Launchpad? | 17:12 |
| apw | in theory yes | 17:12 |
| apw | but perhaps i am stupid will go check | 17:12 |
| bigjools | you might want to double check :) | 17:12 |
| apw | bigjools, somehow i managed to produce it unsigned at all, which i don't even know how to do | 17:15 |
| bigjools | oops | 17:15 |
| apw | that goes in history as a mad thing, same tools same keypresses, no signature | 17:16 |
| apw | hmmm no idea what i did there different from normal, thanks for humoring me | 17:16 |
| bigjools | np, we're all human | 17:17 |
| apw | some of us more so than others :( | 17:20 |
| MT- | What's this? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ubuntu-drupal-planet/trunk-6x | 17:22 |
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| maxb | bigjools: In reference to the build-score increasing with time, and your most recent comment mentioning the source urgency header - the fact that time-on-queue rescoring is now active means the utility of the source urgency header is decreased, since urgency=emergency is approximately the same score boost as 1 hours's on-queue time. What do you think about the possibility of reopening the bug, noting that time-on-queue rescoring only accomplish | 17:55 |
| maxb | es making the urgency header less useful, and proposing to fix it by turning rescoring off again and amending the BuildScores wiki page appropriately? | 17:55 |
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| bigjools | maxb: good point | 17:56 |
| bigjools | it depends on exactly what we want to achieve, does urgency always trump time in the queue, the opposite, or a mix? | 17:57 |
| maxb | I don't think many people know about / use urgency | 17:59 |
| maxb | About the only usecase being relevant that I can think of would be using urgency=medium for a build that a real person was interactively waiting to finish, to bypass daily-build queues | 18:02 |
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| RenatoSilva | bug 399398, bug 399392 | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399398 in launchpad "Diff highlighting in mail body" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399398 | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399392 in bzr-email "HTML Support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399392 | 18:28 |
| SamB | hmm ... I'm getting an FOAF parsing error: | 18:53 |
| SamB | http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=https%3A//launchpad.net/%257Elaunchpad-beta-testers/+rdf | 18:53 |
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| salsaman | hey, what happened to the "last translation time" in launchpad ? | 19:25 |
| salsaman | is somebody working on a fix ? | 19:26 |
| kiko | danilos, henninge? | 19:27 |
| MT- | kiko: you're my hero | 19:28 |
| kiko | MT-! | 19:28 |
| henninge | salsaman: I am not sure what you are referring to. Can you please give me an URL? | 19:29 |
| MT- | So.. when Launchpad is open sourced, will it be available on launchpad itself? that'd be pretty cool | 19:30 |
| henninge | MT-: It'll be on github, actually. | 19:34 |
| MT- | where's that? | 19:34 |
| henninge | ;-) | 19:34 |
| henninge | MT-: I am kidding. | 19:34 |
| henninge | :-P | 19:34 |
| MT- | oh | 19:34 |
| MT- | and now I know what you're talking about | 19:35 |
| henninge | MT-: https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/ | 19:35 |
| henninge | is that page private? I don't think so ... | 19:35 |
| MT- | no | 19:36 |
| MT- | that's a whole lot of karma | 19:36 |
| henninge | where, who, me? | 19:36 |
| henninge | oh, you mean danilos! | 19:36 |
| MT- | all over | 19:37 |
| henninge | comes with the job. | 19:37 |
| MT- | A lot handed out in specs, but not overall | 19:37 |
| henninge | I'm outta here ... | 19:46 |
| thekorn | congrats everybody for the ajax way of changing task status and importance | 19:55 |
| micahg | is someone still keeping count on the complements? :) | 19:56 |
| CaptTofu | hi all! | 20:00 |
| CaptTofu | anyone here handle the launchpad website? I have a problem with 'create milestone' - clicking on it, nothing happens | 20:01 |
| joshuahoover | anyone know if it's possible to find bugs assigned to "Nobody" using launchpadlib? | 20:01 |
| salsaman | henninge: https://translations.launchpad.net/lives | 20:09 |
| salsaman | for example | 20:09 |
| salsaman | or anybody | 20:09 |
| salsaman | what happened to the "last translation time" in launchpad ? | 20:09 |
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| Ampelbein | joshuahoover: searchTasks(assignee=None)? (untested) | 20:16 |
| salsaman | am i looking at the wrong url ? | 20:17 |
| joshuahoover | Ampelbein: that'll do it! | 20:23 |
| joshuahoover | Ampelbein: thank you! | 20:23 |
| salsaman | hello | 20:26 |
| salsaman | last translation time seems to be missing in translations | 20:26 |
| * jblount hugs inline triage prettiness | 20:34 | |
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| salsaman | is nobody going to even take a look ? | 20:47 |
| salsaman | thats real sloppy | 20:49 |
| salsaman | thanks for nothing | 20:49 |
| qball | file a bug on the propper launchpad page. you cannot expect the right person be on 24/7 call in the channel | 20:49 |
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| simon-o | Hi, when I set a Remote Bug Watch to an Email address, are there any automated emails going to be sent to that address? | 21:06 |
| simon-o | because it says: The information about this bug in Launchpad is automatically pulled daily from the remote bug. This information hasn't been pulled yet. | 21:07 |
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| dsprenkels | hello? | 23:52 |
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| poolie | wgrant: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28872946/run-awaaaaay.png <---- the grease-stain of quality? :) | 23:58 |
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