[00:00] Has it appeared in your PPA yet? [00:02] no [00:02] i just finished sending my 4 signed deb... [00:03] waiting now [00:04] You uploaded .debs as well? [00:04] You'll get an email of rejection in a moment, then. [00:06] ah [00:06] received somemails [00:06] i check [00:06] Rejected: [00:06] Unable to find distroseries: stable [00:06] ok [00:06] That's not what I was expecting. [00:06] deb not well done "normal" [00:06] Pardon? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [00:07] this was my first debian packages [00:07] The error about the distroseries is because 'stable' is a Debian series. You need to upload to an Ubuntu one - 'jaunty', for example. [00:07] And how did you build the package? debuild? [00:08] hum, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc [00:08] ... [00:08] Ah. [00:08] '-us -uc' means "don't sign this!" [00:08] so omit those. [00:09] Omit -D too; it's a default option. [00:09] best is debuild? [00:09] It doesn't really matter. [00:09] I build with 'debuild -S -sa' [00:09] ok [00:09] That does a source-only build, and signs it. [00:09] ok i try [00:10] You might need -kKEYID as well, if your key doesn't match your package. [00:10] ok === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [00:57] wgrant, a small question, when i use debuild -S -sa i dont have .deb [00:57] normal? [00:58] smo__: Correct. You can only upload source packages to Launchpad - it will build the .debs there. [00:59] ah nice [00:59] i try [01:03] Successfully uploaded packages. [01:04] i think this one we ll be good ^^ [01:05] Got the email yet? [01:05] no, waiting [01:05] [PPA s-lagui] [ubuntu/jaunty] gstyle 0.1 (Accepted) [01:05] ^^ [01:05] thx a lot wgrant [01:06] Excellent! [01:06] Now to see if it builds. [01:06] i have to upload and redo sources for missing perl libraries missing in ubuntu... [01:07] (sorry for my english..) [01:07] What do you mean? [01:07] What's missing? [01:07] Aha, it built. [01:07] some perl libraries i use are not in ubuntu repository [01:07] Ah. [03:36] what's the deal with all the bug mail? [03:37] jml: I only sent one today... [03:38] jml: I got annoyed with some of my bugs waiting in 'launchpad' for 6 months. So I redirected mine and a few others, as CHR people don't seem to be doing it for months at a time. [03:38] Nobody triages those bugs :( [03:38] ... and that was a bzr bug [03:39] wgrant: you need more medical personel, maybe? [03:39] wgrant, it's not listed as a CHR task -- which goes some way to explaining why CHR people haven't been doing it :) [03:41] I'm sure somebody told me it was. [03:41] wgrant, anyway, thanks for JFDIing it. I'll mail the dev list to see what's going on & avoid a backlog in future. [03:42] jml: It takes about 10 seconds a bug, and it seems similar to processing Answers, so IMO it would fit well with CHR. [03:44] agreed. [03:45] what's CHR? [03:45] some kind of synonym for RTS? [03:45] or do I mean RSD? [03:46] community help roster [03:46] Rotation, actually. [03:46] https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation [04:56] nearly at 400k bugs ... [04:56] Yep. [04:57] Late tomorrowish, I suspect. [05:22] wgrant: mass bug-filing time? [05:25] ajmitch: I've already filed ten bugs today :( [05:28] nice.. [05:28] how many bugs are in launchpad total? [05:29] bug numbers are approaching 400k [05:30] which includes the hundreds of duplicates people file, etc [05:30] And only a few of the intermediate numbers are missing. [05:31] Bug #1000 was hit 4 years ago yesterday. [05:31] Launchpad bug 1000 in ubuntu "There are too many bug reports in Malone" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000 [05:32] Oh. [05:32] I'm a month off. [05:32] * wgrant can't count, see. [05:33] what worries me is that I remember mpt filing that bug at the time [05:39] * wgrant is glad to see all of the bugs he retargeted into sinzui's domain this morning already triaged. [05:51] hmmm [05:52] almost 400k [07:18] are the karma recalculators not working? [07:20] wgrant: you'll be pleased to note we have successfully updated edge :-) [07:22] spm: Excellent. Thanks. [07:23] Inline bugtask editing... shiny. [07:26] And my scripts no longer crash. This is good. [07:30] micahg: they should be working. the latest runs should be finishing any minute now. [07:31] ok [07:31] thanks [07:31] I noticed the new update, status is AJAXy [07:37] Why do the status/importance popups not have the usual header styles? [07:37] They look pretty strange now with the unbold title and large gap at the top. [07:41] !!!! inline status omg [07:41] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:41] poolie: Yes! It is awesome! [07:41] sadly it comes to an abrupt end when you want to target a milestone but anyhow [07:41] Although it'll stuff up the inline activity log :( [07:42] it won't update til you reload? [07:42] oh and it doesn't seem to group them [07:42] Right. [07:42] On both. [07:42] But the latter is the main problem. [07:42] It seems to only group changes and comments that happened at the same instant. [07:42] i think there's a separate bug saying it should group as much as possible? [07:43] There is. [07:43] ooh, fail [07:43] Ideally using the same algorithm as email batching, I suppose... [07:43] if you then unfold the thingy to set the milestone it undoes your status changes [07:43] so sad [07:44] Ah, the good old midair collision bug. But colliding with yourself. [07:44] Although I suppose this one is fairly easily fixable by just setting that widget as well. [07:44] And I guess the expandy bit might go away entirely once everything's inline-editable. [07:45] The email batching is pretty unsophisticated, really :) [07:45] Off the top of my head I would think the web presentation of updates could do better than that. === ripps_ is now known as ripps [07:45] True. [07:49] thank you launchpad people for adding the ajaxy bug status stuff! [08:22] the new bug status change is really nice, well done! [08:22] ooooh im gonna start counting to see how many come in to say that. [08:25] maco: You missed three from before you arrived. [08:25] wow, popular feature [08:25] so 5 so far then [09:00] how report a bug in ppa package? [09:01] yurikoles, can't === danilos changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: danilos | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [09:37] bug 179873 [09:38] Launchpad bug 179873 in malone "Can't report bugs on PPA packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179873 [09:39] http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa [10:05] james_w, wgrant: is getPublishedSources() behaving today? [10:06] bigjools: it appears to be, yes [10:06] thank you [10:08] cool [10:09] james_w: sorry it took so long to push out, edge updates were stopped for a security fix cherry pick. I'm going to see if we can get a more stable api service put on lp.net as well. [10:09] bigjools: Working fine for me too. [10:09] good good [10:10] Is it actually defined when the API will be un-beta? [10:10] no [10:10] Presumably it will never actually be stable. [10:10] there's a not insignificant amount of work to do to support multiple API versions [10:10] but we can put an api service on lp.net for now which will prevent you from having to QA our changes for us :) [10:11] By 'when' I don't mean time, but other criteria. [10:11] not my area, but I think it's known what needs to be done, it's just not scheduled [10:11] bigjools: I think I would still run against edge, but having lp.net as a fallback would be useful [10:12] if we just run against production then we have no recourse when the changes land there [10:12] james_w: there's a slight risk that you'll start using edge features before they are ready on lp.net [10:12] so, I support your proposal, but I for one will continue to QA :-) [10:13] james_w: awesome, can you fill out my QA wiki as well :D [10:13] presumably there will be a lp.net/+apidoc to go along with edge.lp.net/+apidoc [10:13] heh [10:13] yep [10:20] how hard would it be to add to +apidoc a TOC with a list of all objects? I've to use the Firefox page search for navigation [10:20] I generally edit the URL, so +1 [10:21] geser: not hard. if you are not afraid of XSLT you'll even be able to do it yourself soon ;) [10:22] thanks for filling my inbox with bugmail today wgrant :) [10:22] intellectronica: We can do it ourselves now, it seems. It's in lp:launchpadlib [10:23] oh of course, forgot that it's there [10:23] It seems like a very strange place to have it. [10:23] bigjools: Sorry. [10:24] wgrant: heh, it's fine, I appreciate you taking the time [10:24] i actually rather it didn't change. i also use firefox search-as-you-type, and if every item will be mentioned twice on the page i'll have more to type before i find the real definition [10:24] wgrant: and yes, thanks for the help with moving all those bugs. reading through them now [10:24] intellectronica: But they're already mentioned many times, as methods say something like "Returns a collection of _foo_bars_" [10:25] sure, that will be just one more time. anyway, i don't really care that much, and i appreciate many users do prefer more traditional navigation :) [10:42] Remind me never to go near XSLT again. [10:42] wgrant: that bad? [10:42] wgrant: it is one of the more perverse languages out there, indeed [10:43] It was easy enough to work out, but it's horrendously ugly and verbose. [10:44] wgrant: bear in mind, the resulting code is probably less verbose than it would be had you wanted to do the same xml->xml transformation using other languages [10:44] And I'm not sure I like how the for-each looks at its first children for stuff to us in its calculations. [10:44] True. === Wajih is now known as MaWaLe [12:19] * mpt goes on a bug-reporting bender [12:29] mpt: Have you been double-clicking on statuses of some of my bugs? [12:30] wgrant, only two, I'm sorry, the change wasn't on staging yet [12:30] reported bug 399236 about it [12:30] Launchpad bug 399236 in malone "Double-clicking status or importance value usually changes it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399236 [12:30] ... and there's the email about that bug. [12:31] Hopefully staging will update tonight. [12:34] ah, bother, did it by accident that time :-/ [12:35] Heh. [12:53] cprov: Is depwait retrying really in launchpad-buildd territory? [12:55] wgrant: as I understood the bug, it would be easier if the buildd identifies the situation itself and return the appropriate depwait value. [12:55] cprov: That wouldn't work. If the buildd knew what the solution was, there would be no problem. [12:55] wgrant: maybe it has implications in both sides, I'm not entirely sure. [12:56] cprov: Nothing provides the virtual package at that point, so the buildd can't know what will in future. [12:56] The build log there is from a successful build. [12:59] wgrant: I was under the impression that 'apt' would know better than soyuz how to deal with virtual packages. === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [13:00] cprov: Well, of course. Soyuz doesn't know how to do it at all. [13:00] But the problem here is that apt doesn't know it's a virtual package at the time of the build. [13:00] It just knows the package doesn't exist. [13:00] wgrant: no, the model doesn't know about 'provided' packages [13:01] Right. That's the problem. [13:01] It cannot be solved in launchpad-buildd. [13:09] cprov: How does the code work now? The cron job just checks each depwait build's missing name and version against published binaries? [13:10] wgrant: yes, it should also check for virtual packages [13:10] cprov: And I think you do have that information at least somewhere, because BPR pages show lots of fields. [13:12] wgrant: right, BPR.provides would list virtual packages [13:12] wgrant: published BPR providing X ... probably [13:13] cprov: Right, it needn't be any more complicated than that, because it's for apt to work out. [13:13] And there's no versioning to worry about with Provides. [13:14] wgrant: yes, if a matching 'provided' package was found we re-dispatch the build and let apt work again, if there is any version-issue it will come back. [13:16] cprov: No, better than that. If the dependency is versioned, a virtual package cannot satisfy it. [13:18] wgrant: good point, because Provides: elments are not versioned (or are they? let me check debian policy) [13:18] cprov: Debian Policy 7.5 [13:18] cprov: Provides are unversioned. [13:19] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual [13:19] righto, thank you. === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === henninge_ is now known as henninge === aboudreault is now known as AlanB === danilos changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === jon is now known as Guest93432 === salgado_ is now known as salgado-brb === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === arianit_ is now known as arianit === vorian is now known as OldSchool === salgado-brb is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:06] if i am not going mad, i think ppa uploads have stopped being processed [17:06] or at least taking over an hour [17:10] apw: I will check [17:10] bigjools, thanks [17:11] apw: it looks ok, did your upload take a long time to get processed? [17:11] i still don't have either a yes or a no in email from it [17:12] apw: did you sign it with a key known to Launchpad? [17:12] in theory yes [17:12] but perhaps i am stupid will go check [17:12] you might want to double check :) [17:15] bigjools, somehow i managed to produce it unsigned at all, which i don't even know how to do [17:15] oops [17:16] that goes in history as a mad thing, same tools same keypresses, no signature [17:16] hmmm no idea what i did there different from normal, thanks for humoring me [17:17] np, we're all human [17:20] some of us more so than others :( [17:22] What's this? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ubuntu-drupal-planet/trunk-6x === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:55] bigjools: In reference to the build-score increasing with time, and your most recent comment mentioning the source urgency header - the fact that time-on-queue rescoring is now active means the utility of the source urgency header is decreased, since urgency=emergency is approximately the same score boost as 1 hours's on-queue time. What do you think about the possibility of reopening the bug, noting that time-on-queue rescoring only accomplish [17:55] es making the urgency header less useful, and proposing to fix it by turning rescoring off again and amending the BuildScores wiki page appropriately? === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [17:56] maxb: good point [17:57] it depends on exactly what we want to achieve, does urgency always trump time in the queue, the opposite, or a mix? [17:59] I don't think many people know about / use urgency [18:02] About the only usecase being relevant that I can think of would be using urgency=medium for a build that a real person was interactively waiting to finish, to bypass daily-build queues === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [18:28] bug 399398, bug 399392 [18:28] Launchpad bug 399398 in launchpad "Diff highlighting in mail body" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399398 [18:28] Launchpad bug 399392 in bzr-email "HTML Support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399392 [18:53] hmm ... I'm getting an FOAF parsing error: [18:53] http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=https%3A//launchpad.net/%257Elaunchpad-beta-testers/+rdf === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === AnMaster is now known as AnMaster_ipv6 [19:25] hey, what happened to the "last translation time" in launchpad ? [19:26] is somebody working on a fix ? [19:27] danilos, henninge? [19:28] kiko: you're my hero [19:28] MT-! [19:29] salsaman: I am not sure what you are referring to. Can you please give me an URL? [19:30] So.. when Launchpad is open sourced, will it be available on launchpad itself? that'd be pretty cool [19:34] MT-: It'll be on github, actually. [19:34] where's that? [19:34] ;-) [19:34] MT-: I am kidding. [19:34] :-P [19:34] oh [19:35] and now I know what you're talking about [19:35] MT-: https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/ [19:35] is that page private? I don't think so ... [19:36] no [19:36] that's a whole lot of karma [19:36] where, who, me? [19:36] oh, you mean danilos! [19:37] all over [19:37] comes with the job. [19:37] A lot handed out in specs, but not overall [19:46] I'm outta here ... [19:55] congrats everybody for the ajax way of changing task status and importance [19:56] is someone still keeping count on the complements? :) [20:00] hi all! [20:01] anyone here handle the launchpad website? I have a problem with 'create milestone' - clicking on it, nothing happens [20:01] anyone know if it's possible to find bugs assigned to "Nobody" using launchpadlib? [20:09] henninge: https://translations.launchpad.net/lives [20:09] for example [20:09] or anybody [20:09] what happened to the "last translation time" in launchpad ? === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [20:16] joshuahoover: searchTasks(assignee=None)? (untested) [20:17] am i looking at the wrong url ? [20:23] Ampelbein: that'll do it! [20:23] Ampelbein: thank you! [20:26] hello [20:26] last translation time seems to be missing in translations [20:34] * jblount hugs inline triage prettiness === OldSchool is now known as FurieuxV === FurieuxV is now known as Effexor [20:47] is nobody going to even take a look ? [20:49] thats real sloppy [20:49] thanks for nothing [20:49] file a bug on the propper launchpad page. you cannot expect the right person be on 24/7 call in the channel === so is now known as Guest19682 === Guest19682 is now known as simon-o [21:06] Hi, when I set a Remote Bug Watch to an Email address, are there any automated emails going to be sent to that address? [21:07] because it says: The information about this bug in Launchpad is automatically pulled daily from the remote bug. This information hasn't been pulled yet. === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [23:52] hello? === Effexor is now known as vorian [23:58] wgrant: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28872946/run-awaaaaay.png <---- the grease-stain of quality? :)