| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| neversfelde | if someone from the MOTU SRU team is present, it would be great if you could have a look at bug #221531 | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 221531 in kopete-plugin-thinklight "Thinklight doesn't blink because /proc/acpi/ibm/thinklight has wrong permissions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221531 | 00:08 |
| === mrooney1 is now known as mrooney | ||
| _Andrew | How do I change the version number on a library? The library i'm packing has the format libname.so.0.0.0 but I need it to be libname.so.2.2.2 | 01:06 |
| RAOF | _Andrew: Messing with libtool is the answer. You're the author of libname? :) | 01:11 |
| _Andrew | Not the upstream, just putting the package together for the first time | 01:12 |
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| === bastiao__ is now known as k0p | ||
| stochastic | does anyone in here know how to hook into the pbuilder system (i.e. able to execute commands in the build environment) should the build fail? | 04:49 |
| \sh | moins | 04:51 |
| nhandler | stochastic: You can try the C10shell script in the Kubuntu pbuilder-hooks: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/files | 04:53 |
| nhandler | That will drop you to a shell inside the chroot if the build fails | 04:53 |
| stochastic | I have that script already but I don't remember how to invoke it | 04:53 |
| nhandler | stochastic: If you have your pbuilderrc file setup properly, the script will be run whenever a build fails, you shouldn't need to call it manually or anything like that | 04:55 |
| stochastic | nhandler, this is my pbuilderrc: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/217511/ is there anything missing? | 04:57 |
| nhandler | stochastic: Yes, you need to set HOOKDIR: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/annotate/head%3A/README | 04:58 |
| stochastic | nhandler, thanks. | 04:59 |
| nhandler | You are welcome stochastic | 05:00 |
| stochastic | anyone want to do a REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid | 05:24 |
| mr_spot_ | fabrice_sp, are you here? i have uploaded a new version of my package, but i'm not sure how to address your third point. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pulseaudio-mixer-applet | 05:28 |
| fabrice_sp | mr_spot_, yes. Let me check | 05:28 |
| fabrice_sp | for the third point, it seems ok as it is now. I'll have another look to see if I detect more errors | 05:29 |
| mr_spot_ | thanks :) | 05:29 |
| fabrice_sp | stochastic, did you notice you still have a lintian warning? | 05:39 |
| fabrice_sp | a warning I mean. About missing a copy of the licence in the upstream tarball | 05:40 |
| stochastic | the license is there, it just has a bad name gpl2.txt | 05:41 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 05:42 |
| fabrice_sp | stochastic, why is it build depending on python and not on python-dev ? | 05:51 |
| stochastic | fabrice_sp, hmm, I'll adjust that and let you know | 05:57 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. Anyway I have more comments, so please wait :-) | 05:58 |
| fabrice_sp | I see: it's normal as the 'executables' are python scripts. Even the build scripts are in python :-/ | 06:00 |
| fabrice_sp | stochastic, ^ | 06:00 |
| stochastic | well the build is successful with python-dev in pbuilder | 06:01 |
| fabrice_sp | yeah, but you don't really need it | 06:01 |
| stochastic | but it was also successful with python | 06:01 |
| fabrice_sp | I'm no python guru, but I think in that case, build dependency on python is ok (as well as run dependency) | 06:03 |
| wgrant | python-dev is not needed if it's purely Python. | 06:05 |
| wgrant | python-dev is almost exclusively used for building C extensions. | 06:05 |
| fabrice_sp | thanks wgrant ! stochastic ^ | 06:06 |
| stochastic | yes, good to know. | 06:06 |
| fabrice_sp | How can I know why a -dev package is pulled in sid and not in karmic? the rdepends does not work very well with build dependencies | 06:17 |
| fabrice_sp | when building a package, I mean | 06:18 |
| \sh | fabrice_sp: why should this not work very well? | 06:22 |
| fabrice_sp | \sh, I'll check again, but last time I used rdepends on a -dev package, I didn't get all the build dependencies | 06:22 |
| \sh | fabrice_sp: sometimes another -dev package is pulled in through a another package...sometimes you need to go down the chain ;) | 06:23 |
| \sh | -dev packages are handled the very same as other packages..so depends or rdepends should work on them as usual... | 06:24 |
| fabrice_sp | \sh, "sometimes you need to go down the chain" is what I wanted to avoid :-D | 06:24 |
| fabrice_sp | ok: I'll build the package within a clean chroot and see why it's not installed | 06:24 |
| stochastic | fabrice_sp, how detailed should the man pages be for a2jmidid? that app is quite simple. | 06:32 |
| RoAkSoAx | Anyone willing to take a look to: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier please? | 06:34 |
| fabrice_sp | stochastic, it should details the options, and their meaning | 06:39 |
| fabrice_sp | if no opptions, | 06:39 |
| fabrice_sp | then put it | 06:39 |
| fabrice_sp | RoAkSoAx, from what I've seen, make some cleaning in your debian/rules (a lot of unnecessary comments), only put one line in your changelog | 06:48 |
| fabrice_sp | if you want, I can have a better look this afternoon, when I'm back from work | 06:49 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:49 |
| fabrice_sp | hey dholbach ! | 06:49 |
| RoAkSoAx | morning dholbach | 06:49 |
| dholbach | heya fabrice_sp | 06:49 |
| ajmitch | hi dholbach | 06:49 |
| dholbach | hey RoAkSoAx, ajmitch | 06:49 |
| dholbach | how are you guys doing? | 06:49 |
| RoAkSoAx | fabrice_sp, you mean on line as in only Initial Release (LP: #XXX) ? | 06:50 |
| RoAkSoAx | dholbach, pretty good | 06:50 |
| fabrice_sp | dholbach, good. A bit hot here (37ºC yesterday), but fine :-) And you? | 06:50 |
| fabrice_sp | RoAkSoAx, yes | 06:51 |
| StevenK | fabrice_sp: Send some here? | 06:51 |
| fabrice_sp | StevenK, lol. I can try, but it will be difficult :-D | 06:51 |
| dholbach | good good, slowly waking up and reviewing a bunch of patches | 06:51 |
| RoAkSoAx | fabrice_sp, ok ;) | 06:52 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: I see that noone has stepped forward for the motu-release role, perhaps the MC should make a mention of it, if it's open for nominations? | 06:52 |
| * ajmitch can't remember how many people are meant to be on there, or if it matters | 06:52 | |
| dholbach | probably a good idea | 06:53 |
| * RoAkSoAx goes to sleep | 06:56 | |
| RoAkSoAx | night all | 06:56 |
| RoAkSoAx | :) | 06:56 |
| fabrice_sp | sweet dream RoAkSoAx :-) | 06:56 |
| RoAkSoAx | thanks fabrice_sp | 06:56 |
| iulian | Heya dholbach! | 06:57 |
| dholbach | hey iulian | 06:57 |
| \sh | #undef DAY "24h" \n #define DAY "48h" | 06:58 |
| StevenK | #ifdef DAY \n #undef DAY \n #endif \n #define DAY 48 * HOUR | 06:59 |
| \sh | if [ ! -z $MANAGEMENT ] ; then for i in $MANAGEMENT ; do killall -9 $i ; done echo "Work Really, Really Done!" ; fi | 07:02 |
| StevenK | \sh: done ; echo ... | 07:04 |
| \sh | StevenK: fixing, thx ;) | 07:04 |
| * StevenK grins | 07:04 | |
| StevenK | if [ -n "$MANAGMENT" ]; | 07:04 |
| StevenK | $MANAGEMENT # damn it | 07:04 |
| StevenK | In fact, for i in "" is a no-op, anyway | 07:05 |
| StevenK | ... I thought | 07:05 |
| fabrice_sp | StevenK, I was thinking that you need to sleep, and found that: "Wedontsleep.org is Steve Kowalik's vanity domain." | 07:07 |
| fabrice_sp | :-D | 07:07 |
| StevenK | fabrice_sp: Why? It's 4pm. :-P | 07:07 |
| StevenK | Yeah, I need to fix that page. | 07:07 |
| fabrice_sp | my bad! lol | 07:08 |
| \sh | Why oh Why is nobody believing people, who are in this crappy network business for round about 20 years, that big big big big network hardware can't be delivered in 1 week. And if it's delivered in 1 week, then something really really really bad is happening, e.g. delivering a big big big network hardware which was already used and broken... | 07:10 |
| \sh | now, I have to kill my distributor, delay our project, and redo all the setup, great. Thx $MANAGEMENT, for telling us that we're too pessimistic and that we don't have a clue... | 07:12 |
| \sh | somewhere I read in the newspaper that swearing should ease pain...looks like I have to go to my $manager and swear a bit to ease my stomach ulcer | 07:16 |
| \sh | bbl | 07:17 |
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| hhb | i have a question about versioning of custom packages in ppa's: the launchpad site tells me to increment the version, and append ~ppaN~jaunty1 | 08:33 |
| hhb | now, if everybody does that, all modifications of a given package will have an identical name, won't they? | 08:33 |
| hhb | or did i misinterpret the "ppa" string, and it should actually be ~name_of_my_ppa_repo1~jaunty1 ? | 08:34 |
| RAOF | They'll all have an identical name; they're the same source package. | 08:34 |
| RAOF | They'll _also_ have identical versions if two people have followed this versioning scheme, but why would that be a problem? | 08:34 |
| hhb | they are different versions of the same source package. say i have 5 ppa's in my sources.list, and 3 of them have differently modified versions of the "nautilus" package | 08:35 |
| hhb | if they're all called the same, that sounds like a lot of confusion | 08:35 |
| hhb | i see many teams actually changed the appendix string "ppa" to something representing their repo or user-id. that sounds like a good idea. | 08:44 |
| gaspa | hhb: you can do as you like. you can even use + instead of ~ ... even if it's not a very good idea... but it depends from the use you do of your ppa... | 08:46 |
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| hhb | gaspa: ~ means "rating down", + means "rating up"? | 08:48 |
| gaspa | almost everything else than '~' means 'rating up' :P | 08:49 |
| RAOF | hhb: ~ means "character that sorts before any other substring, even the empty substring" | 08:49 |
| hhb | okay, thanks | 08:49 |
| hhb | what could it mean if dput gives me: Config error: hb_gnome must have an incoming directory set | 08:54 |
| hhb | i do have a ~/.dput.cf with an incoming line, according to https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 08:54 |
| StevenK | Pastebin your .dput.cf? | 08:55 |
| hhb | oh, never mind | 08:55 |
| hhb | i spelled it "incomming" in the .dput.cf file. sorry for the noise | 08:55 |
| RAOF | If anyone's around, I'd quite like a bit of a review of a new nouveau-kernel-source package; I'll be basically what's in the xorg-edgers/nouveau PPA, and the packaging branch can be nabbed from lp:~xorg-edgers/nouveau/edgers-ppa-kernel-source | 09:03 |
| StevenK | RAOF: You will be? | 09:03 |
| RAOF | I will be what? | 09:03 |
| mr_spot_ | must be squishy inside a .deb :p | 09:03 |
| RAOF | Oh. | 09:04 |
| RAOF | Bah. | 09:04 |
| RAOF | ! | 09:04 |
| RAOF | StevenK: gnome-do's currently sitting at #7 in the pkg-cli-apps sponsoring queue. Tell me if you'd like to be impatient and have it uploaded to Ubuntu first. | 09:05 |
| stochastic | can anyone point me to a concise introduction to writing man pages? | 09:09 |
| dholbach | we should have a session at UDW about writing manpages! | 09:11 |
| gaspa | dholbach: hi, can you take a look at this: | 09:12 |
| gaspa | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gaspa/harvest-data/harvest-data/+merge/8311 | 09:12 |
| slytherin | asac: Just FYI ... I fixed eclipse FTBFS. Eclipse currently has its own copy of swt-gtk. But as per the last changelog entry by doko, he plans to make eclipse build-dep/dep on the libraries in repos. | 09:27 |
| asac | slytherin: does eclipse depend on xul 1.9 now? | 09:33 |
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| slytherin | asac: let me check. Didn't pay attention to that part. | 09:50 |
| asac | slytherin: its mui important | 09:51 |
| asac | slytherin: if its not going for 1.9 we will remove eclipse soon from the archive | 09:51 |
| asac | i think 3.4 should work with 1.9 at least though | 09:51 |
| asac | slytherin: does it depend on libxul-dev or xulrunner-dev ? | 09:52 |
| asac | libxul-dev is the forbidden one ;) | 09:52 |
| asac | + pkg-config, ant-optional (>= 1.6.5-3), firefox-dev | 09:54 |
| asac | what the hell is that | 09:54 |
| slytherin | asac: I just fixed the FTBFS. I neither created the package nor did the major update in karmic. | 09:55 |
| asac | slytherin: thats ok. can you please change that to xulrunner-dev and see whats going on? | 09:56 |
| asac | slytherin: i mean. firefox-dev doesnt even exist in the archive afaik | 09:56 |
| asac | hmm | 09:56 |
| asac | it exists | 09:56 |
| asac | but it doesnt ship anything | 09:57 |
| asac | nor does it depend on xulrunner-dev | 09:57 |
| asac | so maybe its not needed at all | 09:57 |
| asac | slytherin: wanna check that? | 09:57 |
| slytherin | asac: I will try in evening. I haven't yet tried to build it on my machine. I used PPA to quickly try the FTBFS fix. | 09:59 |
| slytherin | And I would love to hear doko's comments about his plan to update/modify the package before I do any major changes. | 10:01 |
| asac | slytherin: he did the upload just so that this process gets started | 10:02 |
| asac | slytherin: afaik, the idea was to make it fail to build so someone either picks it up or we drop it from archive | 10:02 |
| slytherin | asac: :-) | 10:07 |
| slytherin | I will see what I can do. First thing is to use swt-gtk from archive. | 10:07 |
| asac | slytherin: bug 352968 | 10:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 352968 in pcmanx-gtk2 "remove xulrunner 1.8 and all left over rdepend binaries from karmic archive." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352968 | 10:07 |
| asac | assigned to you | 10:08 |
| asac | that has really highest prio | 10:08 |
| asac | otherwise eclipse really gets removed ;) | 10:08 |
| sebner | asac: ping :D | 10:08 |
| sebner | asac: maybe wrong chan but patching firefox(3.6) fixes the issue! | 10:09 |
| asac | sebner: you mean copying the stub? | 10:09 |
| sebner | asac: patch > ff3.6/debian/patches | 10:10 |
| asac | sebner: did you try to copy the stub? | 10:10 |
| asac | sebner: otherwise i would think that the patch didnt change a thing and the rebuild did just that for you | 10:10 |
| sebner | asac: at least here copying didn't do it | 10:11 |
| asac | sebner: check out the build log. it builds jemalloc, but it doesnt link it anywhere | 10:14 |
| asac | sebner: you sure you copied the stub to right place? ;) | 10:14 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28977921/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.firefox-3.6_3.6~a1~hg20090713r30222%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 10:14 |
| sebner | asac: bah, don't annoy me after I got it working :P | 10:14 |
| asac | cp /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.2a1pre/bin/xulrunner-stub ../../dist/bin/firefox-3.6 | 10:15 |
| asac | thats what the build does | 10:15 |
| asac | sebner: heh. | 10:15 |
| asac | sebner: please give me the patch or suggest a merge to the xulrunner-1.9.2.head branch | 10:16 |
| asac | sebner: we can then see if next daily automatically fixes it | 10:16 |
| asac | if not, we can also add it to firefox-3.6 | 10:16 |
| asac | but i would hope thats not needed | 10:16 |
| sebner | asac: firefox-3.5 ~o~ | 10:17 |
| siretart` | revu is going down for a few minutes... | 10:18 |
| slytherin | asac: when is llvm MIR likely to have a resolution (either yes or no). Openjdk is not installable on anything but i386 and amd64, because the arch:all components are not getting built. | 10:18 |
| siretart` | fan replacement | 10:18 |
| sebner | asac: https://bug493541.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=386469 ;) | 10:19 |
| asac | slytherin: i think it will take a bit | 10:20 |
| asac | slytherin: why are arch:all components not built ... arent those build on i386 | 10:21 |
| slytherin | asac: yes, they are supposed to, and i386 build is depwait on llvm | 10:24 |
| slytherin | asac: I guess the build dep was added before the MIR discussion started. | 10:24 |
| hhb | how does authentification/signing of a ppa work? i am getting messages that my packages could not get authenticated, but i have done apt-key add on the ppa's key, and also called apt-get update | 10:30 |
| asac | slytherin: yes, thats doko | 10:42 |
| asac | ok | 10:42 |
| slytherin | hhb: when were the packages created in your PPA? | 10:45 |
| hhb | slytherin: an hour ago | 10:47 |
| maxb | hhb: Your PPA is not signed yet. It will be signed the next time you upload/copy/delete something in it. This is an annoyance of how Launchpad works for new PPAs | 10:48 |
| maxb | When you create your first PPA it has no key. The key is not generated until after it has a package in it. Signing then only happens when you change the PPA after the key has been generated. Bit of a bug, really | 10:49 |
| hhb | maxb: ah, so the first upload is unsigned, but successive ones will be signed? | 10:49 |
| hhb | ah, okay, good to know. | 10:49 |
| maxb | Or rather, the results of the first upload won't be signed until a subsequent change happens | 10:49 |
| hhb | thanks again :-) | 10:49 |
| DktrKranz | dholbach: you too a gtg user? ;) | 11:01 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: yes - when is the new release coming out? | 11:01 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: what about the couchdb backend? | 11:01 |
| DktrKranz | dholbach: already released, synced yesterday | 11:02 |
| dholbach | ahhhh | 11:02 |
| dholbach | that's why the German translations are so broken :) | 11:02 |
| dholbach | I was wondering already :) | 11:02 |
| DktrKranz | https://translations.launchpad.net/gtg/trunk/+pots/gtg/de/+translate :) | 11:03 |
| * DktrKranz did Italian ones | 11:04 | |
| DktrKranz | for couchdb, I've seen some activities | 11:04 |
| dholbach | DktrKranz: fixed in trunk already | 11:04 |
| DktrKranz | good | 11:05 |
| dholbach | gtg is really good stuff | 11:05 |
| DktrKranz | its maint is not so good ;) | 11:05 |
| DktrKranz | (Debian/Ubuntu one, of course) | 11:06 |
| dholbach | move it to gnome's release schedule and release it ~every 2 weeks | 11:06 |
| dpm | DktrKranz: hi, regarding translations, I would suggest you to assign the translations to an existing translation group, so that a minimum quality can be ensured | 11:08 |
| dpm | DktrKranz: I'd suggest using the launchpad translators group -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/launchpad-translators | 11:08 |
| DktrKranz | dpm: I'm not upstream developer, just Debian and Ubuntu packager/maintainer | 11:09 |
| dpm | DktrKranz: ah, ok, I'll have to talk to them, then :) | 11:09 |
| DktrKranz | but I could ask them if they want to consider this | 11:09 |
| dpm | DktrKranz: sure, if you could contact them regarding this, this would be great. The main point is the quality of translations, as dholbach can tell you by experience in fixing them ;). They could use the Ubuntu translators group as well, but Launchpad translators might be more appropriate (only from a logical point of view). The only thing with the L-T group is that it is relatively new and it doesn't have as many teams as the U-T group | 11:16 |
| DktrKranz | I see | 11:16 |
| dholbach | somebody translated "gtk-close" with "gtk-schließen" which is a bit unfortunate :) | 11:16 |
| DktrKranz | dpm: gtg is growing, and popcon on both Debian and Ubunto states so. They should benefit from that. | 11:17 |
| dpm | DktrKranz: yes, I myself have started to use it after dholbach kept telling me how good it was ;) | 11:20 |
| slytherin | has anyone ever encountered a DVD that does not mount at all on Ubuntu? | 11:28 |
| rawler | hey people! | 11:41 |
| rawler | still looking for Ubuntu-package of tetzle.. I've spent some time trying to get it through revu.. but just when it was done for approval, it seems it's already in debian.. | 11:42 |
| rawler | still no Ubuntu package though.. what should I do? | 11:42 |
| Laney | you can request a sync after you check it works | 11:45 |
| therm | Hi@all | 11:45 |
| therm | could someone take a look at one of my packages? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/h2database http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhnutil http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhndatasource http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/swtcalendar (advocated on time) | 11:45 |
| bluekuja | hi thekorn | 11:50 |
| bluekuja | * therm | 11:51 |
| bluekuja | thekorn, sorry, wrong ping ;) | 11:51 |
| simon-o | Hi, which files do I have to attach to a bug, when I updated an package? The diff.gz and .dsc file? | 12:05 |
| bluekuja | simon-o, explain better | 12:05 |
| bluekuja | simon-o, what do you mean with "Updated a package?" | 12:05 |
| bluekuja | simon-o, you made a new release? | 12:06 |
| simon-o | bluekuja: yes, I updated an existing package to a new version. Like outlined in the PackageUpdate wiki page | 12:06 |
| bluekuja | simon-o, attach .dsc, .diff.gz and the orig if you didnt make a watch file | 12:07 |
| geser | gaspa: check the tooltip for a version at http://members.ping.de/~mb/ubuntu/build_status/ | 12:08 |
| AnAnt | is there a dh --with java or so ? | 12:08 |
| simon-o | bluekuja: thanks | 12:10 |
| bluekuja | simon-o, np, then subscribe u-u-s | 12:11 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: it depends on what you want to do | 12:12 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: ok, I want to make a package for java software | 12:13 |
| AnAnt | dh 7 doesn't automatically call jh_exec I think , right ? | 12:13 |
| slytherin | simon-o: attach .diff.gz. If upstream tar ball needs modification then it is expected that get-orig-source handles that. | 12:13 |
| AnAnt | and jd_depends | 12:13 |
| wgrant | gaspa, geser: UW run with Changed-By just finished. | 12:13 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: how about use havahelper | 12:13 |
| slytherin | I mean javahelper | 12:14 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: if I use javahelper with dh 7, will it automatically call those ? | 12:14 |
| simon-o | slytherin: ok, so just .diff.gz and .dsc but not orig.tar.gz? | 12:14 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: I have no idea about dh7. I use cdbs for java apps/libs | 12:15 |
| slytherin | simon-o: only .diff.gz. .dsc will be regenerated by sponsorer | 12:15 |
| simon-o | slytherin: ok, thanks. I'll do that | 12:16 |
| slytherin | AnAnt_: I have no idea about dh7. I use cdbs for java apps/libs | 12:17 |
| AnAnt__ | slytherin: if I use javahelper with dh 7, will it automatically call jh_exec & jh_depends ? | 12:19 |
| slytherin | AnAnt__: I have no idea about dh7. I use cdbs for java apps/libs. | 12:19 |
| AnAnt__ | oh | 12:19 |
| slytherin | AnAnt__: which app are you working on? | 12:22 |
| AnAnt__ | slytherin: monajat | 12:22 |
| AnAnt__ | slytherin: remember it ? you're onkarshinde, right ? | 12:22 |
| slytherin | AnAnt__: That is almost done I guess. I need to advocate it. I lost the track in jaunty cycle | 12:22 |
| AnAnt__ | AnAnt__: new upstream release | 12:23 |
| slytherin | AnAnt__: 1.2? | 12:23 |
| AnAnt___ | I got a bad internet today | 12:23 |
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| slytherin | AnAnt: This is not the first time. :-) | 12:24 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: What is new in 1.2? | 12:24 |
| AnAnt | just some cleanups | 12:25 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Did you guys consider using a font family instead of a specific font which comes only in msttcorefonts package? | 12:25 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: I'm not the upstream, he's busy | 12:26 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: personally I wish this app is converted to python or so | 12:26 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: and that we use the notification system instead | 12:26 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: If you are working on the package, you might want to patch it for font at least. | 12:26 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: That will keep package in universe, otherwise it will go to multiverse. | 12:27 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: well, I tried to that, but it looks horrible, the text gets clipped somehow | 12:27 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: it seems more complex than just changing the font name | 12:28 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Really? For me it looked better with default 'Sans' font. | 12:28 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: the font itself maybe is cool, but the problem was with text clipping, I should give it another shot though | 12:29 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: By the way, if you are not changing the font, change the dependency of msttcorefonts to ttf-mscorefonts-installer | 12:31 |
| AnAnt | that would make it in universe ? | 12:31 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Nope. It will still be in multiverse. It is just that the package name has changed. | 12:32 |
| AnAnt | oh | 12:32 |
| AnAnt | btw, why is msttcorefonts in non-free ? it doesn't contain non-free fonts, it just downloads them, right ? | 12:32 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: It downloads non-free fonts. | 12:33 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: so ? | 12:33 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: if I got use wget to download non-free stuff, that doesn't make wget non-free, does it ? | 12:34 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: This is not about using it to download. The package itself, at the time of installation, downloads non-free stuff and installs it. | 12:34 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Similar to flashplugin-nonfree | 12:35 |
| AnAnt | I see | 12:35 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Another thing you may want to try is fonts from ttf-liberation package. It tries to provide drop in replacement for MS fonts. And the package is in universe. | 12:35 |
| AnAnt | what if a package optionally downloads & install a non-free file during install, does that make it non-free ? | 12:36 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: yes. | 12:36 |
| * slytherin will be back later. | 12:37 | |
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| gaspa | geser: cool :) | 13:17 |
| gaspa | geser: I'd like a smaller timeout, but it neeeds some js magic, I guess... | 13:19 |
| Laney | do I need a revu to upload a package that's in Debian NEW? | 13:20 |
| Laney | NEW source, that is | 13:20 |
| slytherin | Laney: it is preferred. The package being in NEW does not mean it is error free. :-) | 13:21 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: btw, any news on the velocity issue ? | 13:21 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: I added a comment already. I believe a new version is uploaded to experimental. | 13:22 |
| Laney | slytherin: I'd need one review, and the DD who sponsored has done one... | 13:22 |
| Laney | but sure I don't mind | 13:22 |
| slytherin | Laney: Is the DD also Ubuntu motu? | 13:22 |
| Laney | not sure | 13:23 |
| Laney | I think we've taken this to mean an advocation before, but can't remember | 13:23 |
| slytherin | Laney: if that is case then sure go ahead. But I don't know of any such case before. | 13:24 |
| slytherin | Unless you are talking about mono uploads | 13:24 |
| geser | gaspa: yes, right now it's just the title attribute for the link | 13:25 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: nothing in experimental yet, but I saw your reply now, thanks | 13:26 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: regarding your ttf-liberation suggestion, that require that I change the font name from Arial ? | 13:29 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Yes. | 13:29 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: to LiberationSerif-Regular ? | 13:29 |
| AnAnt | or LiberationSerif ? | 13:30 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: That you will have to check. I have not actually used fonts form ttf-liberation | 13:30 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Regarding velocity, the package is updated in pkg-java svn. SHould be uploaded soon. | 13:30 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: Hmm, I don't think I need to change the font name, I see this in /etc/fonts/conf.avail/91-liberation.conf | 13:31 |
| AnAnt | http://pastebin.com/m6a2cb5c2 | 13:31 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: great, you may just need to change the dependency then | 13:32 |
| AnAnt | I hope so | 13:33 |
| slytherin | TheMuso: ping | 13:48 |
| slytherin | TheMuso: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217917/ | 14:00 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: it works fine indeed | 14:01 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: thanks | 14:01 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Cool. | 14:01 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: uploaded to REVU | 14:18 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: I will check in evening. | 14:18 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: ok, thanks | 14:19 |
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| bluekuja | any revu admin around? | 14:38 |
| nhandler | bluekuja: What do you need? | 14:40 |
| bluekuja | nhandler, can you please update my profile from contributor to reviewer please? | 14:40 |
| nhandler | Sure | 14:40 |
| bluekuja | nhandler, ty | 14:41 |
| nhandler | bluekuja: Done | 14:42 |
| bluekuja | nhandler, thanks a lot | 14:42 |
| nhandler | bluekuja: Now, get reviewing ;) | 14:42 |
| mr_spot_ | ooh ooh do me! http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pulseaudio-mixer-applet | 14:42 |
| mr_spot_ | :) | 14:42 |
| bluekuja | nhandler, lol, yeah :D | 14:42 |
| bluekuja | mr_spot_, yeah, let me see | 14:43 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 14:48 |
| nhandler | Hey bddebian | 14:48 |
| bddebian | Hi nhandler | 14:49 |
| Laney | howdy | 14:49 |
| mr_spot_ | hey | 14:49 |
| Laney | all ok? | 14:49 |
| Laney | I'm feeling the pain of Gentoo users atm | 14:49 |
| Laney | compiling texlive on my mac :( | 14:49 |
| hyperair | Laney: the difference is that they enjoy the pain =p | 14:53 |
| _andre | hello | 14:53 |
| _andre | would anybody like to review a few revu packages? | 14:53 |
| _andre | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/watchcatd | 14:54 |
| _andre | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libwcat | 14:54 |
| _andre | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libapache2-mod-watchcat | 14:54 |
| Laney | they do, crazy masochists | 14:54 |
| hyperair | agreed. | 14:55 |
| Laney | building ghostscript now... | 14:55 |
| * Laney thinks he won't be going home in 2 hours | 14:55 | |
| hyperair | _andre: the current Standards-Version is 3.8.2. | 14:57 |
| slytherin | mr_spot_: forgot to make a screenshot for you. | 14:59 |
| _andre | hyperair: that's what dh_make put there for me... should just rebuilding with the newer version be ok? | 15:01 |
| mr_spot_ | slytherin, is this the one you were talking about? http://imagebin.org/55891 | 15:04 |
| slytherin | mr_spot_: right | 15:04 |
| hyperair | _andre: dh_make's outdated. just bump it up, shouldn't cause any damage. for more information see /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz | 15:07 |
| _andre | thanks | 15:09 |
| mr_spot_ | slytherin, a couple of differences i can spot are that gnome-volume-control-pulse only lets you deal with one input and one output device volume at a time, you can't move individual streams to different devices, and changing the default will reset the volume of the selected device | 15:09 |
| slytherin | mr_spot_: Ok. I don't have multiple sound cards/devices at home, so I can't comment on that. | 15:11 |
| mr_spot_ | last point is not cool, i just blasted myself while wearing earphones :/ | 15:11 |
| mr_spot_ | in its favour, it has a vumeter for the input tab and an option for system event sounds | 15:12 |
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| _andre | hyperair: should i change the version to ubuntu2? | 15:18 |
| hyperair | _andre: no. | 15:19 |
| hyperair | _andre: only change the version number if it has already been uploaded into ubuntu (or debian) | 15:19 |
| hyperair | or a PPA | 15:19 |
| _andre | ok | 15:19 |
| _andre | i'm uploading the updated packages | 15:19 |
| slytherin | mr_spot_: My only concern is that we should not have two packages with exactly same functionality. | 15:19 |
| mr_spot_ | slytherin, that's understandable | 15:20 |
| therm | could someone take a look at one of my packages, please? | 15:27 |
| therm | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/h2database | 15:28 |
| therm | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhnutil | 15:28 |
| therm | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/willuhndatasource | 15:28 |
| therm | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/swtcalendar (advocated on time) | 15:28 |
| hyperair | descriptions would be nice =) | 15:31 |
| slytherin | hyperair: you canread them on revu. :-P | 15:34 |
| _andre | hyperair: i've uploaded the packages with the correct Standards-Version | 15:34 |
| hyperair | slytherin: yeah but i'm lazy. | 15:34 |
| hyperair | in any case i have to go out anyway =p | 15:35 |
| slytherin | hyperair: any plan to update remuco in Debian and fix the dependency problem that is preventing transition to testing? | 15:35 |
| hyperair | slytherin: eh what? | 15:35 |
| hyperair | slytherin: there's a new upstream release sitting around waiting for a sponsor. | 15:36 |
| hyperair | slytherin: what dependency problem? | 15:36 |
| slytherin | hyperair: amarok dependency is unsatisfiable | 15:36 |
| hyperair | oh that. | 15:36 |
| hyperair | can't exactly fix that can i? | 15:37 |
| hyperair | remuco-amarok doesn't work with an amarok lower than 2 | 15:37 |
| * hyperair bbl | 15:37 | |
| slytherin | hyperair: you can disable the package until amarok 2 actually enters in unstable. | 15:37 |
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| * Laney eyes the new proposed application process | 16:16 | |
| directhex | hm? | 16:17 |
| sebner | Laney: debian -> ubuntu ftw! :D | 16:17 |
| Laney | see motu-council@ | 16:17 |
| Laney | sebner: you confuse me | 16:18 |
| sebner | lol | 16:18 |
| directhex | he's good at that | 16:23 |
| DktrKranz | poor sebner :( | 16:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | heya guys, can anyone could please review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier please? | 16:31 |
| cpscotti | RoAkSoAx: isn't debian/changelog supposed to solely report the LP bug #? | 16:34 |
| Laney | not neccessarily | 16:34 |
| * Laney is a fan of detailed changelogs | 16:34 | |
| cpscotti | I agree | 16:35 |
| cpscotti | I'm also a fan of them | 16:35 |
| cpscotti | but I was told that the debian/changelog of a package at revu should just cite the LP bug # | 16:35 |
| RoAkSoAx | me too, though in this case I'm not sure if those other changes should be listed. | 16:35 |
| Laney | I don't see why that should be the case | 16:36 |
| Laney | if there's something interesting or unusual then it could be listed in the initial entry | 16:36 |
| Laney | I'm thinking mainly patches | 16:36 |
| james_w | Laney++ | 16:36 |
| Laney | :) | 16:36 |
| Laney | RoAkSoAx: Although in this case I think they look a little strange (surely everything is 'added' if there was nothing there before) | 16:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | yeah | 16:37 |
| Laney | I wouldn't mention those | 16:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | well I'll have to change it then | 16:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | thanks :) | 16:37 |
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| RoAkSoAx | Can anyone review/advocate http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier please?? | 17:17 |
| thebishop | I just heard about the One Hundred Paper Cuts project. How is development organized on this? | 17:17 |
| thebishop | RoAkSoAx, is this implemented as an applet? | 17:18 |
| thebishop | cron? | 17:18 |
| RoAkSoAx | thebishop, yes it has been implemented as an applet | 17:20 |
| thebishop | RoAkSoAx, and you want this to be part of the default install? | 17:20 |
| RoAkSoAx | thebishop, no. I just want it to be reviewed and advocated so that It get uploaded to the repos | 17:20 |
| thebishop | ah | 17:21 |
| dholbach | nhandler :-) | 17:28 |
| dholbach | nhandler: you totally deserved it :) | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | hi dholbach | 17:49 |
| dholbach | hey chrisccoulson | 17:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll answer the behind MOTU interview questions soon ;) | 17:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't forgotten about it yet | 17:49 |
| sebner | chrisccoulson for interview \o/ | 17:51 |
| dholbach | chrisccoulson: ROCK :) | 17:53 |
| dholbach | no worries | 17:53 |
| dholbach | there's a few people who are much later with it than you are :) | 17:53 |
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| RoAkSoAx | Can anyone please review/advocate: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier | 18:18 |
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| slytherin | geser: Just FYI ... excalibur-logkit build successfully on buildd. :-) | 19:42 |
| ma10 | uhuuuhu | 20:33 |
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| rawler | Laney: I've quickly tested the package from debian (tetzle).. it checks out.. now where do I enter a sync request? | 21:32 |
| Laney | rawler: there is a wiki page, hang on | 21:32 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 21:33 |
| rawler | cool.. looking at it now.. | 21:33 |
| gaspa | Laney: just you.. :P | 21:34 |
| Laney | huh? | 21:34 |
| gaspa | Laney: have you idea of why happens this kind of fail? -> | 21:35 |
| gaspa | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28420177/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.haskell-regex-base_0.93.1-3.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 21:35 |
| Laney | nope | 21:37 |
| gaspa | :( | 21:37 |
| Laney | hugs works? | 21:37 |
| Laney | tried it locally? | 21:37 |
| gaspa | no, | 21:38 |
| gaspa | I saw only that log. | 21:38 |
| gaspa | ( i have another similar on my ppa for haskell-http ) | 21:38 |
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| evanrmurphy | Following the KVM installation guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation), I tried "egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo", but got no printout. Could someone confirm please that this means KVM is not an option on my machine, and that I should try an alternative like VirtualBox? | 22:11 |
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| ajmitch | evanrmurphy: no, I think that's missing something | 22:14 |
| ajmitch | ust looking for which flag it is here (core 2 duo) | 22:14 |
| ajmitch | evanrmurphy: I can't spot it, but give kvm a try anyway, it works for me :) | 22:16 |
| evanrmurphy | ajmitch: Thanks for your response. So you also get no printout from the egrep command, but KVM works for you? | 22:16 |
| ajmitch | evanrmurphy: yes | 22:17 |
| evanrmurphy | ajmitch: Thanks, maybe I'll give it a try. :) | 22:18 |
| ajmitch | I think it may be a different flag on newer CPUs | 22:18 |
| * ajmitch could be completely wrong, of course | 22:20 | |
| evanrmurphy | Do I risk ruining my system if I try to install a paravirtualized VM and it turns out my machine can't support it? | 22:47 |
| evanrmurphy | (Trying to set up KVM now.) | 22:48 |
| pochu | why would you? | 22:48 |
| evanrmurphy | pochu: Is your question: Why would I install it? or Why would I risk ruining my system? | 22:57 |
| pochu | evanrmurphy: why would it break | 23:01 |
| evanrmurphy | pochu: I'm not sure if it would, but everything I'm reading about KVM suggests that VT extensions are prerequisite. For instance: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#What_do_I_need_to_use_kvm.3F | 23:02 |
| evanrmurphy | And the help documentation reads, "A paravirtualized VM requires a specially modified kernel. If you choose paravirtualized, you must make sure this specially modified kernel is available for the operating system you wish to install." | 23:03 |
| azeem_ | evanrmurphy: so worest case is it doesn't work | 23:04 |
| binarymutant | This package I'm working on doesn't have an install target in the makefile, what can I do? :/ | 23:06 |
| azeem_ | binarymutant: you could fix the upstream makefile and submit a patc | 23:06 |
| azeem_ | h | 23:06 |
| evanrmurphy | azeem_, pochu: I guess I would need more assurance of that (like the kind I'm getting from the fine people of #ubuntu-motu :D). It's my understanding that a paravirtualized machine gives direct access to the hardware, so I'm not sure I want to risk it since I can see now that http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx has informed me my processor doesn't support VT. | 23:06 |
| azeem_ | so don't | 23:06 |
| pochu | evanrmurphy: try #ubuntu-server, but we give NO WARRANTIES, so in the end you will have to do at your own risk, if you decide to try anything | 23:12 |
| pochu | evanrmurphy: this is the wrong channel for such questions anyway | 23:13 |
| micahg | ping ajmitch | 23:36 |
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| ajmitch | micahg: yes? | 23:37 |
| micahg | can I talk to you about a changelog in here? | 23:37 |
| ajmitch | you can | 23:38 |
| micahg | ok, I noticed for the latest phpmyadmin upload for karmic, an LP bug # was left out | 23:38 |
| ajmitch | it was a sync iirc, so the changelog wasn't touched | 23:39 |
| micahg | ah, so debian changelogs have LP #s? | 23:39 |
| ajmitch | if the debian maintainer puts them in | 23:40 |
| micahg | indeed | 23:40 |
| micahg | very cool | 23:40 |
| ajmitch | which one was missed from the changelog? | 23:40 |
| micahg | so, can they have debian and LP #s in the same line? | 23:41 |
| micahg | bug 357334 was the same as debian bug 534894 | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | yes, they can | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357334 in phpmyadmin "ucf debconf conflict" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357334 | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 534894 in phpmyadmin "use --debconf-ok when calling ucf" [Normal,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/534894 | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | ok, it can be closed manually then | 23:41 |
| micahg | ok, should I mark Fix Released with the version? | 23:42 |
| ajmitch | sure | 23:42 |
| micahg | ok | 23:42 |
| micahg | thanks ajmitch | 23:43 |
| ajmitch | no problem, always good to see more bugs closed :) | 23:44 |
| micahg | yep :) | 23:44 |
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