[00:00] <zenxr> twigll: he left
[00:00] <rTk^cool> how do I dual boot
[00:00] <arkts1> is directx installed in WINE already?
[00:01] <nsadmin> rTk^cool: that will be in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst which you can edit after you install
[00:01] <rTk^cool> ok thanks
[00:01] <nsadmin> does compiz and kde play nice together?
[00:01] <geirha> rTk^cool: If ubuntu detects other operating systems during install, it will automatically set up dual boot for you
[00:01] <Jordan_U> barqers: Please do file a bug report if you have time, then try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180" and once that is done try enabling the driver with System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[00:01] <rTk^cool> haha awesome
[00:02] <danl> why does a apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5    result in apache delivering php pages as downloadable content?
[00:02] <barqers> Jordan_U: Okay I will try that command. Thank you
[00:02] <danl> on a 9.04 minimal vm install
[00:02] <Jordan_U> barqers: np
[00:03] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:03] <tsimpson> danl: have you enabled the php module?
[00:03] <tsimpson> and restart apache
[00:03] <danl> does it not enable automatically?
[00:03] <danl> it does on a full lamp intall
[00:03] <erUSUL> !lamp
[00:03] <danl> *install
[00:04] <danl> and yes... the php5 is loaded
[00:04] <danl> module is loaded
[00:04] <Jordan_U> danl: Have you restarted apache since installing PHP ?
[00:04] <tsimpson> danl: and you restarted apache after installing it?
[00:04] <danl> yes
[00:05] <danl> ehh... It worked that time... removed php and installed it again
[00:05] <danl> must have been some glitch
[00:05] <rTk^cool> checking drives
[00:06] <Madsy> On Jaunty, where did ~/.bashrc go?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Madsy: Nowhere
[00:06] <Madsy> Weird. Because my Jaunty install doesn't seem to provide one
[00:07] <twig11> Please remind me how to extract a .exe file to get at the .inf driver file ndiswrapper needs.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Madsy: Did you do "ls -a" to include hidden files?
[00:08] <Madsy> Jordan_U: Yep, of course.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> twig11: Are you sure you need ndiswrapper, if you have a broadcom card you probably don't
[00:08] <codeshah> hey guys, my WINE installed items do not show up in the applications menu - any lcues?
[00:09] <RocketLauncher> I tried to use big-desktop so I could.. dual screen. now when I start ubuntu.. atieventsd starts, then both screens turn black. I can't do anything, can't login. I forgot what commands I did but I did it.
[00:09] <twig11> Jordan_U: Linksys WUSB11v4 USB network adapter
[00:09] <Madsy> Oh, a find -type f -iname *bashrc* did the trick.
[00:09] <Madsy> Seems like it's been moved to ./settings/
[00:09] <twig11> Jordan_U: how can I check if I need it or not?
[00:09] <rTk^cool> booted!
[00:10] <moloch> I am trying to install the fglrx drivers. I updated my repository and they are not coming up. Also not appearing in restricted drivers
[00:10] <twig11> Jordan_U: It shows up in lsusb, but I know it doesn't Just Work because I'm in range of a wireless network and network manager doesn't know it.
[00:10] <th0r> Madsy: don't know what is going on there...my .bashrc is in ~ and there is no 'settings' folder
[00:10] <rTk^cool> lol my password or username is wrong
[00:11] <rTk^cool> how did i mess  up  my  username  or pw
[00:12] <twig11> how can I check my usb wireless card to see whether the linux drivers are working?
[00:12] <jeeves> is there a way to auth against an active directory?  I have a laptop, and I'd like ot be able to log onto my AD @ the shop, but I need to make sure that when i'm not connected to it,  I can still use my laptop
[00:12] <Big>  irc.virtualife.com.br
[00:13] <dspstv> hi, i appreciate any help on getting sugar to run under jaunty
[00:13] <manbreadj> hello any help out there
[00:13] <rTk^cool> nsadmin
[00:13] <StrangeCharm_> twig11-  dare i state the obvious: try to browse the web?
[00:13] <Jordan_U> twig11: It probably does need ndiswrapper since it's USB and not working out of the box, but you can check by searching if there is a driver with the information printed from lsusb ( not the modle on the box as that tells you little about what the actual chipset is )
[00:13] <dspstv> i get a black screen, from sugar-emulator but nothing more
[00:13] <dspstv> has anyone succeded on getting sugar under jaunty?
[00:14] <rTk^cool> haha I got it
[00:14] <StrangeCharm_> dspstv-  just put the cd over the bowl :p
[00:14] <dspstv> StrangeCharm_: waoo great sense of humor congrats
[00:14] <zenwryly> I still use Python 2.4 for a lot of things, is there a way to get python- packages to be built/installed for 2.4 as well as 2.5/2.6?
[00:15] <manbreadj> i need someone to point me in a direction to solve my problem
[00:15] <twig11> StrangeCharm_: It's a strangely charming suggestion, but yes I have and haven't gotten very far.
[00:15] <switch10_> manbreadj: ask your question
[00:15] <twig11> StrangeCharm_: I end up coming back here to ask what the directions mean.
[00:15] <StrangeCharm_> twig11-  well, then i can confirm that it is not working
[00:16] <StrangeCharm_> sorry, i seem to be the king of poor humour this evening
[00:16] <LordMetroid> I got myself a Sangha SL-707 Webcam, but it doesn't seem to be working when I plug it into the USB connection. In this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284266
[00:16] <Remear> could someone point me to a good guide for setting up a domain on ubuntu?
[00:16] <LordMetroid> They say spca drivers will work, how do I install such?
[00:16] <StrangeCharm_> LordMetroid-  sudo apt-cache search spca
[00:17] <LordMetroid> The device is detected and all and the file /dev/video0 is created
[00:17] <manbreadj> i was downloading updates, got an error, and now everythings changed: menu options are gone, some don't work; and to top it all off I only vaugly know what i'm doing...
[00:17] <twig11> StrangeCharm_: Oh, I get it! I thought you were asking me to browse for the answer to my question. :-)
[00:17] <LordMetroid> gspca-source?
[00:17] <Kreg-Work> apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade;     finishes, yet a graphical "update manager" still pops up.   it shows packages yet to be upgraded.   why would they not show in the command line?
[00:17] <deany> !iphone
[00:18] <StrangeCharm_> twig11-  yes, the humour was clearly the difference between 'check' and 'fix'. if you're asking, you are clearly beyond 'check' and looking for 'fix'
[00:18] <l0nr4n> how can i run a 32bit file in a 64bit ubuntu?
[00:18] <StrangeCharm_> l0nr4n-  ./file?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Kreg-Work: Does apt-get dist-upgrade finish? apt-get upgrade won't ever add or remove packages if needed, and it usually isn't unless you are using 3rd party repos
[00:19] <c0nsiderate> invisible, test
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Kreg-Work: If you do run apt-get dist-upgrade pay attention to what it wants to remove if anything before saying yes
[00:19] <Kreg-Work> Jordan_U: I am not trying a dist-upgrade .  Update manager is listing just kernel related packages.   is upgradeing a kernel consider a dist upgrade?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> Kreg-Work: No
[00:20] <marks256> Kreg-Work, no
[00:20] <marks256> Jordan_U, beat me to it
[00:20] <bcurtiswx> is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade supposed to bring me to karmic from jaunty?
[00:20] <marks256> lol
[00:20] <Kreg-Work> for as I'm concerend i'm not trying to upgrade from jaunty.
[00:20] <Kreg-Work> i'm in 9.04
[00:20] <Jordan_U> Kreg-Work: run apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin what it proposes ( it won't do anything without confirmation first )
[00:20] <Kreg-Work> just noticed the front end kick in while doing it on the cml
[00:21] <Kreg-Work> Jordan_U: i already let the upgrade manager do that update.   >: (
[00:21] <twig11> Jordan_U: I had this card working with ndiswrapper and this driver before, so I think I'll just go with it. How can i tell if I need to blacklist the linux driver?
[00:21] <LordMetroid> gspca seems to be installed already: http://pastebin.com/d688f37cf
[00:21] <Kreg-Work> oh well
[00:21] <l0nr4n> StrangeCharm_, i've untar thunderbird and tried to execute ./thunderbird, and get the error --> ./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./thunderbird-bin: not found (it is there), any idea?
[00:21] <Kreg-Work> Jordan_U: but i know what you mean, and i'll just check it next time
[00:22] <Jordan_U> twig11: What is the line for the card from lsusb?
[00:22] <l0nr4n> StrangeCharm_, thought the problem was about 32 exec in 64 ubun.
[00:22] <bcurtiswx> Jordan_U: apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing for me.. i want to go from jaunty to karmic
[00:22] <saban> test
[00:22] <Kreg-Work> 9.04 on a the new 13inch MacBook Pro (unibody) seem to be good.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Kreg-Work: If you look at the output from when you ran apt-get upgrade at the end it will list packages held back
[00:22] <Kreg-Work> wifi and 3d worked out of the can
[00:23] <Kreg-Work> Jordan_U: ah.  it listed the packages upgrade manager listed.
[00:23] <twig11> Jordan_U: bus 005 Device 003: ID 13b1:000b Linksys WUSB11 v4.0 802.11b Adapter
[00:23] <Jordan_U> bcurtiswx: That is not the proper way to upgrade from one release to another, alpha or otherwise. For Karmic support /join #ubuntu+1
[00:24] <manbreadj> when i was installing updates, dpkg was interrupted. tells me i must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. how do I do that?
[00:24] <switch10_> manbreadj: open a terminal and type it in
[00:25] <lstarnes> manbreadj: but type it as sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:25] <manbreadj> that option has disappeared from my menu
[00:25] <ryanakca> If I understand correctly, Synaptic has an option to generate a "Download packages on another host, copy them (with USB, CD, etc) to this one, and install here" script for updates. How can I do that from the command line?
[00:25] <switch10_> manbreadj: no terminal?
[00:27] <twig11> Jordan_U: Hey, I forgot about this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper) I think I can follow this, but I still need to know how to tell if there are competing drivers.
[00:28] <rTk^cool> ok ineed mysoundcard drivers. theyre all windows how doiget my  audio working
[00:28] <pjz> I've got a laptop with a builtin sdcard reader and i put in an sdcard and then dmesg shows it should be sdb but fdisk /dev/sdb gives ENOMEDIA
[00:28] <manbreadj> yea no terminal, no add/remove; the toolbar button only brings down 'places', 'system', and 'quit'; quit won't bring up ant options, just shuts it down
[00:29] <pjz> ..how do I get to where I can reformat that sdcard?
[00:30] <switch10_> manbreadj: do a crtl+alt+f1. It will stop the GUI and bring you to a command line. Then run the command that istarnes said
[00:30] <manbreadj> i'm on a a dell mini and i also get full memory messages, if that's relevant...
[00:30] <manbreadj> ok
[00:31] <Jordan_U> twig11: As far as I can tell there are no competing drivers ( and that page would list any if there were )
[00:31] <bobo> hey guys when i play cube 2 (a game) in fullscreen for more than 15 minutes its starts showing the desktop, but i can still hear the music from  cube 2 and i cant do anything other than restart/shutdown the comp
[00:32] <bobo> !sauerbraten
[00:32] <twig11> Jordan_U: Except that it's written for 6.10. But I think I'm safe; I ran it before.
[00:32] <lucaszep> Excuse me all, could anyone you help me? "http://paste.ubuntu.com/217368/"
[00:32] <c0nsiderate> invisible, Hi
[00:33] <bobo> hey guys when i play cube 2 (a game) in fullscreen for more than 15 minutes its starts showing the desktop, but i can still hear the music from  cube 2 and i cant do anything other than restart/shutdown the comp
[00:33] <Jordan_U> twig11: Just noticed that as well, you might not have to compile NDISwrapper with jaunty though, the packaged version will probably work
[00:33] <pjz> bobo: repetition won't get you an answer any faster
[00:33] <bobo> sorry... im in a hurry, ill try again later
[00:33] <schirpich> I'm having a bit of an issue with the nautilus network browser working correctly with hamachi running.  would anyone mind lending me a hand?
[00:33] <isamar> hi folks..
[00:34] <isamar> needing a hand with ubuntu installer
[00:34] <Wicked> is there anyway i can update alsa?
[00:34] <bobo> isamar: what you nee?
[00:34] <bobo> need*
[00:34] <Jordan_U> bobo: Have you tried pressing ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a tty?
[00:34] <isamar> I am using preseeding and it freezes when loading bash package
[00:34] <ladinu> is there a good way in bash to convert "/home/me/../" to "/home/"?
[00:34] <Wicked> !alsa
[00:34] <isamar> bobo: I am using jaunty
[00:34] <twig11> Jordan_U: yeah I used the packaged version. but I installed the driver with the card plugged in and now network manager is hanging while trying to join the network. Should I reboot?
[00:35] <bobo> isamar: i cant help you there, sorry
[00:35] <isamar> bobo: it's a first try making a custom install cd
[00:35] <Jordan_U> ladinu: I don't quite understand what you mean, can you try explaining what specifically you are trying to accomplish?
[00:35] <bobo> jordan_u: um i havent
[00:35] <twig11> Jordan_U: rebooting
[00:35] <isamar> bobo: ok.. no prob. thanks anyway... there is any other better channel for that here ?
[00:35] <manbreadj> at the terminal, the cursor is 'lucas login:' and anything i enter it asks for a password
[00:35] <isamar> bobo: maybe.. ubuntu-devel ?
[00:35] <psyco> hey, is there a command I can use to either switch to desktop 3, or switch to the screen rhythmbox is at?
[00:36] <bobo> isamar: possibly, but i would just either stay here or try again later, this is THE best place
[00:36] <ladinu> Jordan_U, I have a string that is a path with some /../s in, and I want them to cancel out the parts in front of them so that the path is as short as possible (without ..s in)
[00:36] <StrangeCharm_> any recommednations for a simple, lightweight mailserver which supports pop over ssl/tls?
[00:36] <switch10_> manbreadj: login and put in your password
[00:36] <schirpich> Would anyone know why the Nautilus Network Browser would cease to work only while Hamachi is running?  While hamachi is running I get zero found computers on my network.  However if I shut hamachi down I can see my local lan
[00:37] <bobo> schirpich: could be a bug, try googling it (i dont know anything on the subject)
[00:37] <rTk^cool> i cant get my music  working
[00:37] <bobo> rTk^cool: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:37] <patas> fggs
[00:37] <patas> fsgfsgfg
[00:37] <patas> fshsh
[00:37] <bobo> rTk^cool: and do you have the right codecs?
[00:38] <StrangeCharm_> patas-  can we help you?
[00:38] <schirpich> However while hamachi is running or not running I can manually hit Ctrl+L and type in smb://IPADDRESS and everything is kosher, its only nautilus that seem to be having a problem when it is trying to scan the network with "smb:///"
[00:38] <manbreadj> plz forgive my ignorance, but what is it asking for me to login as?
[00:38] <switch10_> manbreadj: login with your username
[00:38] <bobo> manbreadj: your username and password that you set during the installation
[00:38] <psyco> hey, is there a command I can use to either switch to desktop 3, or switch to the screen rhythmbox is at?
[00:38] <rTk^cool> it says it found my card
[00:39] <manbreadj> ok
[00:39] <rTk^cool> I just updated
[00:39] <schirpich> might there be a config somewhere I can modify the expected behavior of the nautilus network browser?
[00:39] <bobo> rTk^cool: are you trying to play it through rhythmbox or something?
[00:39] <switch10_> manbreadj: and then password
[00:39] <rTk^cool> yes
[00:39] <Jordan_U> ladinu: Not sure if there is a premade function for it but I can think of a way to do it
[00:39] <bobo> did it work before you updated?
[00:39] <rTk^cool> no
[00:39] <bobo> hmm....
[00:40] <bobo> are you new to ubuntu?
[00:40] <rTk^cool> yes ;)
[00:40] <dragon_> any words on playing XviD video format on Ubuntu?
[00:40] <dragon_> ubottu's links weren't of much help
[00:40] <rTk^cool> can't you tell
[00:40] <switch10_> rTk^cool: it found your card and installed drivers?
[00:40] <bobo> what card are you talking about?
[00:40] <ladinu> Jordan_U, okay how would I do that?
[00:40] <bobo> oh haha nvm
[00:40] <rTk^cool> yeah I suppose
[00:41] <bobo> ok well did you install the right codecs?
[00:41] <dragon_> rTk^cool: what's the format of your music files?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> ladinu: I'll write a function to do it then pastebin it when I'm done
[00:41] <rTk^cool> mp3
[00:41] <bobo> if its mp3 or mp-whatever then youll probably have to get the ubuntu restricted extras, just google it
[00:42] <Stargazer> Is there a program i could use to test my microphone?
[00:42] <ladinu> Jordan_U, wow thanks!
[00:42] <bobo> and youll come up with an ubuntu documentation and itll tell you what to do, if not then idk
[00:42] <coleys> rTk^cool: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:42] <switch10_> rTk^cool: dude google 10 things to install ubuntu
[00:42] <moloch> how do i tell what gfx driver is being used (ubuntu 9.04)
[00:42] <dragon_> !google | bobo
[00:42] <cak054> Results for | bobo on Google:
[00:42] <cak054> --
[00:42] <switch10_> Tons of useful stuff
[00:42] <dragon_> !mp3 | rTk^cool
[00:42] <rTk^cool> also, what better to install yum, .tar.gz. .rpm or .deb
[00:42] <bobo> sorry dragon
[00:43] <bobo> if you use ubuntu its ALWAYS .deb
[00:43] <patas> hey i need to instal Linux MultiMedia Studio
[00:43] <coleys> rTk^cool: yum is fedora, and rpm is redhat based distros. =o
[00:43] <switch10_> rTk^cool: .deb
[00:43] <manbreadj> ok yea, there's no space left. so, how can i back up and restore my menus, shut down procedure, and anything else I messed up?
[00:43] <dragon_> rTk^cool: in Ubuntu, we use apt-get or aptitude in place of yum, and .deb is our standard package format.
[00:43] <Stargazer> Is there a program i could use to test my microphone?
[00:44] <switch10_> Stargazer: the hardware tester
[00:44] <coleys> Stargazer: gnome-sound-recorder
[00:44] <Stargazer> Ty
[00:44] <bobo> rTk^cool: so pretty much if theres a program you want try sudo apt-get install (name) to download and install it, and if its not there than just search for it on the internet
[00:45] <coleys> !apt | rTk^cool
[00:45] <bobo> sudo apt-get install in the terminal that is
[00:45] <rTk^cool> k thanks everyone
[00:45] <bobo> yeah no problem, i gotta leave, good luck with your music
[00:45] <FloridaGuy> ? in xorg.conf...where do i add options for 1280x1024 at
[00:46] <dragon_> FloridaGuy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20resolution%20changes%20in%20xorg.conf
[00:46] <bobo> FloridaGuy: i think you can set your resolution in System>Preferences>Display, but you might be talking about something else
[00:46] <nsahoo> what is the name of the gnome file browser? firefox is asking what to use to open file download location
[00:47] <bobo> nsahoo: Nautilus
[00:47] <FloridaGuy> wouldent be asking if my res size was there
[00:47] <switch10_> nsahoo: nautilus
[00:47] <bobo> !nautilus |nsahoo
[00:47] <Pici> mode -eeee  emm!n=d09db278@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-8cbaa1ecef85790b emm!n=d09db278@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-8a590c67b41e3caf emmmm!n=d09db278@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-3047618e063d67c7 emm!n=45c8ed67@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-b9cc06de8f55581b
[00:48] <nsahoo> thanks
[00:48] <bobo> yep
[00:48] <Pici> argh
[00:48] <dragon_> um..
[00:48] <bobo> what the heck?
[00:48] <Pici> sorry for that folks, just cleaning up
[00:48] <bobo> oh haha
[00:49] <Jordan_U> ladinu:I'm still working on a function but ask in #bash, it's probably been done before
[00:49] <ladinu> Jordan_U, ok
[00:50] <psyco> hey, is there a command I can use to either switch to desktop 3, or switch to the screen rhythmbox is at?
[00:50] <manbreadj> am i correct to assume that by trying to cram too much stuff (in the form of alerted updates) into this little device, I've somehow jacked-up the menus and such?
[00:51] <switch10_> manbreadj: sounds like that is what happened
[00:52] <douglasawh-work2> can someone poke me if "moloch" enters the room?
[00:52] <douglasawh-work2> s/he asked a question in #ubuntu+1 and I think I have an answer, but s/he left the room
[00:52] <kniht> psyco: at least with compiz you can setup a binding to switch to desktop 3
[00:53] <douglasawh-work2> no need to poke, I saw
[00:53]  * Martin31 pokes douglasawh-work2
[00:53] <Martin31> damn too late xD
[00:53] <douglasawh-work2> Martin31: thanks
[00:53] <yofel> ^^
[00:53] <manbreadj> so what can I do? i'm a bit ashamed to say my only experiences are with windows & microsoft. have i corrupted a registry or something along those lines? what can I do to restore this thang?
[00:53] <psyco> Kniht yeah but I'm looking for like a command for a launcher
[00:53] <douglasawh-work2> moloch: I think your driver has likely been blacklisted
[00:54] <moloch> blacklisted? How do I fix that
[00:54] <kniht> psyco: you can also setup a binding to run a program
[00:54] <phase_shift314> just got xp installed in virtualbox, cant run trackmania though? is it possible?
[00:54] <Martin31> can someone help me with getting windows xp to boot ? im on ubuntu now and i got xp set up in grub but it says the partition doesnt exist
[00:54] <psyco> kniht, can i make a program run a binding?
[00:55] <douglasawh-work2> moloch: you should do a little research to make sure that's the problem, but if it is, here's a solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1148022
[00:55] <kniht> psyco: that's what I just tried to say, yes :)
[00:55] <ascheel> Anybody know of a way with wget to convert links to their proper name?  For instance, downloading a file to its real name instead of letting wget name it:  download_script.php?src_id=8771
[00:55] <kniht> psyco: err, the other way around
[00:55] <psyco> kniht, yeah i need the other way XD
[00:55] <kniht> psyco: now I see what you mean, not sure how to send that, what does the specific binding do? might be easier to do that directly
[00:56] <psyco> well i'd just set like F3 or w/e to switch to desktop 3, then i need to make a program press f3
[00:56] <moloch> I just checked blacklist and nothing is there
[00:57] <MikeChelen> are there any better programs to determine what on the network is using up bandwidth besides etherape?
[00:58] <moloch> douglasawh: TY I will check it out
[00:58] <manbreadj> i'd like to try to just remove whatever i've installed, but there's no add/remove option in my menus.
[00:59] <kniht> psyco: there has to be a way to do it (it's how things like the workspace switcher applet work), but I don't know it and haven't found it yet
[00:59] <manbreadj> it was there before but now its gone...
[01:00] <psyco> kniht, i think i might have found the ubuntu forum topic
[01:00] <ZenBSDi> Hey room. Anyone have experience with apache2 and mod_rewrite?
[01:00] <kniht> psyco: link?
[01:00] <Guest12813> hi
[01:00] <bjorkintosh>  /close
[01:00] <Guest12813> can someone help me?
[01:01] <ZenBSDi> Just ask your question Guest12813
[01:01] <psyco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658040&page=3
[01:01] <dragon_> !hi | Guest12813
[01:01] <Jordan_U> ladinu: prince_jammys in #bash suggested "readlink -f" if the files actually exist, and aren't symlinks ( or you don't mind dereferencing them )
[01:01] <Guest12813> about poker texas holdem on facebook ..
[01:01] <altavatar> I just performed a dist-upgrade which upgraded my kernel to to 2.6.28-13 from -11 and now one of my linuxraid arrays is't active. It only shows 1 drive as  inactive sde1[1](S) (backup drive). When I reboot to the -11 kernel, only 1of2 drives gets picked up but at least i can make it active and re-add the other drive. Any ideas what's wrong?
[01:01] <Guest12813> how i can make a bot for me
[01:01] <Guest12813> about poker texas holdem on facebook ..
[01:01] <altavatar> note: i dont actually have a slave drive, the sde1 should actually be part of the active array
[01:01] <Guest12813> how i can make a bot for me
[01:01] <psyco> kniht, found the answer! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658040&page=3 post #2
[01:01] <ladinu> Jordan_U, the problem is that not all the directories actually exist (the end result does though)
[01:01] <dragon_> !repeat | Guest12813
[01:02] <ladinu> Jordan_U, someone gave me this: sed -e "s|/[^/]*/\.\.|/|g"  which mostly works (it leaves some extra slashes but that's ok for our purpose)
[01:02] <kniht> psyco: nice
[01:03] <dragon_> ladinu: sed -e "s|/[^/]*/\.\.||g" should remove that slash as well
[01:03] <h4f> hi all. can mplayer play file which is currently downloading.
[01:03] <tarzeau> sure
[01:04] <dragon_> h4f: In most of the cases, yes. To be sure, try it.
[01:04] <h4f> for now mplayer sees that 10 min are downladed and playes 10 min. but by time 10 min passes there are other 10 min downloaded
[01:04] <ladinu> dragon_, ok, thanks much!
[01:05] <tarzeau> h4f: which it doesn't play
[01:05] <tarzeau> h4f: that's right
[01:05] <Magichal> does anyone have any knowledge on why Firefox 3 would randomly erase all of my settings, bookmarks, saved passwords, etc., unprovoked?
[01:05] <h4f> tarzeau: yeap vlc does that just fine
[01:05] <tarzeau> Magichal: do you run iceweasel and firefox, different versions?
[01:05] <manbreadj> suddenly, i get no response. what was it that offended? is it the fact i'm on a mini? my dislike of all things microsoft? why am i now scorned so?
[01:05] <Magichal> I tried checking the profiles with "firefox -profilemanager" in terminal, but that didn't seem to help. and I checked the /.mozilla folder and all of my data is still there.
[01:05] <tarzeau> h4f: yeah, ask #mplayer
[01:05] <h4f> tarzeau: can mplayer do that ?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> ladinu: That seems much better than my way, if you are curious you can see the begginings of my function at http://JordanU.dyndns.org/fixpath.sh
[01:05] <tarzeau> h4f: maybe with one of its options
[01:06] <Magichal> tarzeau: I don't think I have iceweasel, but I run the latest version of Firefox for linux.
[01:06] <tarzeau> Magichal: 3.5?
[01:06] <dragon_> Magichal: the settings are stored in your home directory under ".mozilla" folder. Was that folder tampered?
[01:06] <Magichal> tarzeau: yes.
[01:06] <dragon_> Jordan_U: that link is a 404
[01:06] <Magichal> dragon_: no. about three hours ago, everything was fine. I stood up and left my computer for an hour, and when I came back and tried to open my browser, everything was blank.
[01:06] <ladinu> Jordan_U, thank you for your time.  I'll check it out
[01:07] <Jordan_U> dragon_: Not anymore ;)
[01:07] <Magichal> dragon_: I have no toolbars, no toolbar bookmarks, no home page, no URL bar (even when I hit the Home button, no URL shows up), and despite my home page settings in the Preferences, my home page always directs me to the mozilla.org webpage.
[01:07] <dragon_> Magichal: is it firefox 3.5?
[01:08] <Magichal> dragon_: 3.0.11
[01:08] <Magichal> my bad, I thought it was 3.5
[01:08] <Haner> Ubuntu sucks balls.
[01:08] <manbreadj> am i here? are you receiving me?
[01:08] <Haner> No.
[01:08] <Haner> GTFO.
[01:08] <Jordan_U> manbreadj: Yes, we can see you
[01:08] <dragon_> !ops | Haner
[01:09] <barqers> Guys how do I install a metacity theme in ubuntu 9.04?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> manbreadj: Ignore Haner, he's just a troll
[01:09] <barqers> Jordun_U: Thank you very much! that worked!
[01:09] <manbreadj> ok, thanks jordan_u
[01:09] <dragon_> Any ideas about playing an xvid video in Ubuntu? Docs didn't help much.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> barqers: np :)
[01:10] <Magichal> dragon_u: http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/Magichal/phot.png this is a screenshot of what my browser looks like when I open it up now. completely blank.
[01:10] <Socah> dragon_, what problem do you have?
[01:10] <barqers> I downloaded the XNTricity theme from gnome-looks, and placed it into ~./themes and when I go to appearance it doesn't show any themes labelled XNTricity. What am I doing wrong? :S
[01:11] <dragon_> Socah: xvid wouldn't play at all.
[01:11] <manbreadj> so i 'm on a dell mini. really, its not mine-its for my son...
[01:11] <douglasawh-work2> I'm about to head out. can someone tell Martin31 to try * ls /dev|grep '[s|h]d[a-z]' * when he returns (minues the * of course)
[01:11] <blaine00> Does anyone know if Ubuntu running really slow can be a driver issue? I've tried all versions from 7.04 to the current version on a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop and it runs way slower than XP does on the same machine.
[01:11] <dragon_> Magichal: so did you install 3.5 and start using that?
[01:11] <manbreadj> i was installing updates and -surprise!- i run out of space and get an error.
[01:11] <tester_> hey all .. what is that program in ubuntu that lets you extract rar files ?
[01:11] <Magichal> dragon_u: on your problem, I think VLC media player plays xvid videos. and I'll try installing 3.5 right now.
[01:12] <manbreadj> but now things have changed:
[01:12] <dragon_> blaine00: start with the task monitor. Go to a terminal and run `top`, and see if there's a program hogging up all the resources.
[01:12] <Socah> dragon_, try this: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad w32codecs
[01:12] <Magichal> dragon_u: if not, i'm sure you can find a codecs pack somewhere.
[01:12] <laeg> !firewall
[01:13] <manbreadj> some menu options have disappeared, some menu options don't respond, quit doesn't bring up shutdown options....
[01:13] <dragon_> VLC didn't work so far, and those codec packages are installed.
[01:13] <manbreadj> what do i do to fix this stuff?
[01:13] <porter1> Anyone know what the command is that retrieves the build options from an installed package for programs that use it as a liubrary?
[01:14] <Socah> dragon_, I will check all packages that I have installed and are related to codecs
[01:14] <barqers> Does anyone know how to install the theme XNTricity?
[01:15] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:15] <dragon_> Magichal: btw, firefox has a keyboad shortcut (Ctrl + Shift + Del something) that removes all the history and personal data. Still, I think your firefox's config directory is missing or inaccessible.
[01:15] <Hilikus> is there a way to decrease the countdown to shutdown or restart ubuntu?
[01:15] <cfedde> I'm getting a trinitron like flash in my lcd monitor from a nvidia card.   Does anyone else see that?
[01:16] <Socah> dragon_, what about package ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[01:16] <barqers> When I try to install a theme it says "This theme will not be displayed properly because the window manager Gilouche is not installed"
[01:16] <dragon_> Socah: i was refraining from installing that since it comes with a lot of extra stuff
[01:17] <manbreadj> ok, somebody help me out here. i'm new to this crap. folks were helping me a few minutes ago, now i get no response. did I offend some protocol i don't know about? have i stumped all of you geniuses? is my ignorance that offensive?
[01:17] <Socah> dragon_, it's ur choice, but I have almost all gstreamer packages, and this restricted extras... no problem with opening any media files with totem
[01:17] <dragon_> Socah: even xvid works well?
[01:17] <rTk^cool> how do I get to Windows from ubuntu in dual boot
[01:17] <Socah> dragon_, for me, yes
[01:18] <th0r> manbreadj: well, copping an attitude probably isn't helpiing
[01:18] <Skaperen> manbreadj: you have partion updates ... things are probably in a mess
[01:18] <Skaperen> manbreadj: you need to get more space
[01:18] <blaine00> I've pretty much disabled everything I could. There doesn't seem to be any program that stands out. Window refresh is slow and glitchy and programs seem to take a while to load and stay sluggish once they are loaded. I've tried Firefox, swiftfox, and Synaptic and all are unbareably slow. This is a fresh install of 9.04.
[01:18] <MaT-dg> rTk^cool: you already have windows and ubuntu installed in dual boot and are now on windows?
[01:18] <dragon_> Socah: It might be an issue with the xvid file in that case. I have almost all gstreamer packages, and tried others but none worked. Moreover, I haven't had a codec problem before.
[01:19] <manbreadj> this is not an attitude. i just don't know whats going on. im trying to be clever and sarcastic...
[01:19] <rTk^cool> no I'm in ubuntu
[01:19] <dragon_> rTk^cool: you restart the machine and select the OS at the beginning
[01:19] <rTk^cool> just want to know how to switch
[01:19] <rTk^cool> oh u can't. have. both at the same time?
[01:19] <juanbond> anyone know about triple channel kits?
[01:19] <manbreadj> so, skaperen, is it possible to just undo what i've done?
[01:19] <blaine00> Even Xubuntu runs slow... it has a 2.4Ghz Celeron and 512MB of RAM.
[01:19] <coleys> !hungarian
[01:19] <MaT-dg> rTk^cool: not native no
[01:19] <Skaperen> manbreadj: did you fill up a partition or the entire disk?
[01:20] <manbreadj> i don't know
[01:20] <dragon_> rTk^cool: you can run one inside other, but it's not possible to run both of them together.
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Magichal: Are you sure it's erased? It could be just not loading properly for some reason
[01:20] <dragon_> !pm > FROMTPERU
[01:20] <Socah> dragon_,  you could try to check if you got installed gnome-codec-install package, and open xvid file with totem, it should prompt to install codecs if you don't got them... if it will not prompt, propably it's a issue with your packages
[01:20] <barqers> Guys what does it mean when it says "This theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Gilouche' is not installed"?
[01:20] <Skaperen> manbreadj: start a terminal ... or press Alt+Ctrl+F1 to switch to text mode ... do "df" and see
[01:20] <Magichal> dragon_u: I'm now using Firefox 3.5, and the only functionality I've gained back is my ability to have a home page. I have a URL bar and a home page now, but my browser still can't import my old bookmarks (the error message says: "Unable to process the backup file."), and I still don't have a browsing history.
[01:21] <dragon_> Magichal: in that case, you should consider filing a bug.
[01:21] <Magichal> Jordan_U: I know it's all there, I'm seeing it in the home/<user>/.mozilla directory, it's just not loading now.
[01:22] <Socah> Magichal, I see there are more problems with Firefox over the time. Last day, guy had problem with continously prompting for restart of firefox, even when he removed configs, purged package and installed it again, problem was still not solved. Strange.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Magichal: Are you more concerned with recovering your old data or getting firefox to start saving settings / history from now on ( or both ) ?
[01:22] <Skaperen> manbreadj: the lines with /dev/sda or /dev/hda are the ones to pay attention to ... sometimes also /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb
[01:22] <Magichal> dragon_: would changing GTK themes have anything to do with this? recently I tweaked my GTK theme a little bit, and none of these problems were happening before I did such.
[01:22] <manbreadj> the /dev/sda2 usage is 100%.
[01:22] <Magichal> Socah: wow that is weird. I hope I don't get anything like that.
[01:22] <m3ga> i'm running hardy. ifplugd with wired connection works prefectly, but it doesn't work with wifi connection, i have to do a manual 'ifup wlan0'. is ifplugd supposed to work with wifi connections?
[01:22] <MaT-dg> rTk^cool: I think portable ubuntu is the closest to what u want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNzmNB-P6Qk&fmt=22
[01:23] <juanbond> sorry, i meant to say, instead of buying a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227422, can i get 2 of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227365 ??
[01:23] <Skaperen> manbreadj: how big is sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4, etc?
[01:23] <dragon_> Socah: problem was with the video file. Other xvid videos are playing well.
[01:23] <Skaperen> manbreadj: the first column with numbers
[01:23] <dragon_> Socah: thanks for the help
[01:23] <Magichal> Jordan_U: I'm more concerned with making Firefox save things, like browsing history and bookmarks. I found a list of backed up bookmarks in my /,mozilla/firefox/<profile> folder, but when I try to import the backup list, Firefox won't let me. I can still open it with a text editor and retrieve all of my bookmarks, though. so I technically can reassemble my bookmarks if I can find a way to have Firefox start saving things again.
[01:24] <Socah> dragon_, you solved it urself, so you are welcome
[01:24] <Hilikus> is there a way to decrease the countdown to shutdown or restart ubuntu?
[01:24] <Jordan_U> Magichal: Have you tried renaming your ~/.mozilla and starting firefox so that it starts from scratch?
[01:24] <dragon_> Magichal: Google Bookmarks might have a way of importing that bookmark file..
[01:25] <dragon_> Hilikus: I think there is. Let me check.
[01:25] <manbreadj> thats the only one listed. there's varrun, varlock, udev, a few others
[01:25] <Skaperen> Hilikus: are you one of those people that wants it to be 5 seconds?
[01:25] <Hilikus> Magichal: did you create a new profile yet?
[01:25] <blaine00> If usage is 100%,  I would suggest moving some data off of that partition. Ubuntu doesn't react well to not having any space.
[01:25] <Magichal> Jordan_U: no, but I'll try that now.
[01:25] <Hilikus> Skaperen: yes
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> dragom
[01:25] <aspoor> if you are at home watching TV please be advised
[01:25] <Magichal> dragon_: is there? how would I go about doing that?
[01:25] <Hilikus> dragon_: thanks
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> dragom
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> dragom
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> ay from peruviam
[01:25] <aspoor> Why is it important to have an actual root user?
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> AY FROMT
[01:25] <FROMTPERU> PERU
[01:26] <FloodBot2> FROMTPERU: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <FROMTPERU> MI NA,ME IS YERSOM
[01:26] <dragon_> !es | FROMTPERU
[01:26] <dragon_> !topic | FROMTPERU
[01:26] <darkmacho> help
[01:26] <dragon_> !ask | darkmacho
[01:26] <dragon_> Magichal: go to google bookmarks and hit import ;)
[01:27] <darkmacho> i trying to format my ipod with ubuntu 9.04 to fat 32 anyway how
[01:27] <Hilikus> aspoor: because some things you want to assign to root so that nobody else can run,see,change them
[01:27] <Skaperen> manbreadj: can you give me the size of it?
[01:27] <Magichal> Jordan_U: AH HAH! renaming the ~/.mozilla folder to ~/.poopzilla must have done the trick!
[01:27] <Zetsubou> I have a question. :U Durp. Trying to get my wacom bamboo fun to work, it was all fine and dandy except for no pen pressure, so, I installed the wacom tools from synaptic and, well, it's refusing to even work now. The lights on it turn on and all that jazz, but, the pen, and buttons are useless.
[01:27] <manbreadj> 3640944
[01:28] <Magichal> I guess my firefox files got bugged somehow...hm. that's odd.
[01:28] <Skaperen> manbreadj: this is a 4G storage device?
[01:28] <porter1> Is it possible to force all installed libraries to also install 32 bit versions?
[01:28] <Magichal> dragon_: now that my browser is saving things, I'll try to import the bookmarks like I did before.
[01:29] <micah> can someone please tell me how to put the panel at the top instead of the left side of the screen????
[01:29] <manbreadj> i don't thinks so. I'm on a dell mini and my son has a sd card in it
[01:29] <porter1> micah, right click->properties, change orientation
[01:29] <micah> thank you porter
[01:29] <rTk^cool> oh thats kinda cool
[01:30] <redrebel> I have the latest ubuntu, and when doesn't have the shutdown or logoff option uder System
[01:30] <Skaperen> manbreadj: the number you gave looks like a 4G device with some shaved off maybe for swap space ... did you install onto the SD card?
[01:30] <redrebel> any ideas?
[01:31] <porter1> redrebel, it's been moved into a new applet.
[01:31] <Zetsubou> Neh, anyone have any knowledge with wacom tablets at all? :x
[01:31] <porter1> See your name? Click on it, you'll see logout options.
[01:31] <manbreadj> no i don't think so. i just followed the prompts from the update manager.
[01:31] <porter1> Zetsubou, what about?
[01:32] <Skaperen> manbreadj: it sounds like you installed more than I did, or have other data taking up space (like downloaded music)
[01:32] <Zetsubou> porter1: Well I explained above but I guess nobody saw, but.. My wacom tablet is not detecting pen strokes, or, the pen in general. It was kinda working before without pen pressure, so I installed the wacom tools from synaptic, annnnd then I restarted and now I'm kinda stuck at it not detecting the pen.
[01:32] <kansan___> flash on firefox 3.5 installed on ubuntu hardy does not work.  ideas?
[01:33] <gnac__> So I just got an HP mini mi with some custom version of Hardy Heron on it.  I'm a bit disapointed by the lack of package access I am used to with gentoo and sabayon.  Are there package repositories for things like truecrypt and citrix icaclient that I should be aware of?  Its using lpia.
[01:33] <dragon_> Hilikus: I couldn't find of a way of reducing that countdown. To completely get rid of those dialogs, run gconf-editor and check: apps > panel > applets > fast_user_switch > prefs > suppress_logout_restart_shutdown
[01:33] <Cube_> ok im aware this isnt the ideal place to ask, but its kinda related (since ive been using that feature on ubuntu): how can i symlink on windows?
[01:33] <dragon_> redrebel: the shutdown, logoff etc. options have been moved to the user switcher applet, somewhere around top-right
[01:33] <redrebel> oh
[01:34] <Skaperen> Cube_: you can't
[01:34] <porter1> Zetsubou, well, I'm, guessing the wacom-tools package is incorrectly. The only thing you can do is uninstall, and appeal to the developers of that package to support your tablet.
[01:34] <gnac_> Cube_: cant so much
[01:34] <Hilikus> anyone here mounting things from another samba share automatically on startup? when i try to reboot or shutdown it gets delayed with some error about the CIFS server not responding
[01:34] <dragon_> Cube_: you can create a shortcut in windows, but there are no symlinks
[01:34] <Hilikus> dragon_: mmm ok, thanks
[01:34] <Cube_> gnac_: kk. no way of getting that to work? like a package to install?
[01:34] <Magichal> dragon_: wow, and there you go, my bookmarks loaded after I tried what you said. Thank you so much. =)
[01:34] <Cube_> dragon_:
[01:34] <dragon_> Magichal: you're welcome :)
[01:34] <porter1> Zetsubou, aka only basic support is available for it right now.
[01:34] <gnac_> Cube_: Although cygwin can create them, but they can only be used like symlinks in cygwin
[01:34] <Zetsubou> Aah, I guess.
[01:34] <porter1> Sorry
[01:34] <Magichal> Jordan_U: thank you too for helping me as well. see you later everybody.
[01:34] <gnac_> Cube_: to windows they look just like shortcuts
[01:34] <Zetsubou> thanks, porter1.
[01:35] <manbreadj> my son might have put some stuff on it, but my problem is i cant seem to undo what i've done. when i click on system - administration - main menu, nothing happens. i can't set preferences.
[01:35] <porter1> Zetsubou, you could help the devs of that package by maybe submitting a bug report
[01:35] <Cube_> gnac_: ok. i love using symlinks with dropbox here on ubuntu, and i'd love to be able to do that on windows
[01:35] <pronoy> !nessus
[01:35] <rTk^cool> i  still  cant  get my sound right
[01:35] <porter1> Might be trivial
[01:35] <pronoy> need help with nessus people...how to add admin user ? i am using nessue 3.2.1
[01:35] <Jordan_U> gnac_: truecrypt isn't included because of licensing issues. There are .debs available from their site
[01:35] <manbreadj> theres no add/remove option anynmore. the synaptic package manager doesn't work.
[01:36] <Zetsubou> porter1: I'm gonna try and mess around with it a little more.. If I can't get the tablet to do anything, that's fine since I dual-boot into Windows anyways. I was just hoping I could use GIMP instead of photoshop since it means switching between OSes.. Horray. :x
[01:36] <sandy> guys need help my modem is not detected by the os
[01:36] <sandy> though it detected only once
[01:37] <manbreadj> have i corrupted the registry? is there even a registry or something equvalent to it?
[01:37] <gnac_> Jordan_U: yep, but they're not compiled for lpia so the installer barfs on me.
[01:37] <justfil> how can i erase contents of txt file without deleting it
[01:37] <Socah> manbreadj, there is not, only config files
[01:37] <Socah> justfil, edit it, delete content, save?
[01:37] <manbreadj> ok, could i have corrupted them?
[01:37] <Skaperen> manbreadj: no registry per se ... various config files and databases
[01:38] <pronoy> need help with nessus people...how to add admin user ? i am using nessue 3.2.1
[01:38] <justfil> Socah, command line
[01:38] <porter1> Zetsubou, I feel your pain.
[01:38] <Skaperen> manbreadj: yes ... they were being updated and could not complete when disk is full
[01:38] <manbreadj> i ask because when i click on quit, i get no options, it just shuts the computer down
[01:38] <gnac_> likewise cygwin icaclient seems to be a manual effort to install, eg download this, download that ... vs apt-get/emerge/equo install icaclient
[01:38] <Zetsubou> porter1: Oh, hey! I got the pen to be detected again. |3
[01:38] <thebuck86> justfil: you could move another blank file to it by changing the name of the other file
[01:38] <Socah> manbreadj, you could delete config files that are responsible for menu, they will be recreated with re-logging
[01:38] <Hilikus> justfil: maybe echo "" > file
[01:38] <gnac_> ^er citrix icaclient
[01:38] <Zetsubou> Now let's see if I can figure out pen pressure.. :C
[01:38] <Socah> justfil, nano /path/to/file, then remove what you need and save with ctrl+o, exit with ctrl+x
[01:38] <barqers> Guys, what does this mean "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue" when installing an icon theme?
[01:38] <Socah> justfil, if this is a system file, you need to use it with sudo
[01:39] <justfil> thanks
[01:39] <Socah> barqers, http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&rlz=1G1GGLQ_PLPL295&q=%22The+NetworkManager+applet+could+not+find+some+required+resources.+It+cannot+continue%22+problem&btnG=Szukaj&lr=
[01:39] <manbreadj> sounds like i might be venturing into dangerous territory? i don't wanna dig myself into a deeper hole...
[01:39] <timn> sandy, does it appear in lspci? Most likely it's not supported by the kernel yet.
[01:40]  * Black_Phantom yawwwnn
[01:40] <Socah> manbreadj, there is nothing to loose than changes that you made in your look of GNOME
[01:40] <sandy> well at first when i connected it, got connected
[01:40] <sandy> n i connected to internet
[01:40] <sandy> after i restart my pc
[01:40] <PerryMason> was wondering what sabayon is, it seem's it's some sort of gentoo offspring. Seem's some people still go for the documented 0.05% gain from hours of compiling...
[01:40] <sandy> it wont get any network connection
[01:40] <pronoy> need help with nessus people...how to add admin user ? i am using nessue 3.2.1
[01:40] <manbreadj> sorry, not sure what you mean by that last statement
[01:41] <Socah> sandy, I suggest you using wicd - it's program similar to networkmanager, if you will not be able to solve your problem, you can try installing wicd
[01:41] <timn> sandy, hm, interesting. Which application are you using for dialing?
[01:41] <rTk^cool> wtf my sound worked shittily for 5  seconds then shut back off
[01:41] <timn> yep but does it also support modem?
[01:41] <Socah> he talks about modem? then I don't know
[01:41] <pronoy> wow nobody's used nessus ?!?!
[01:42] <rTk^cool> now my sound works
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> !info nessus
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> pronoy:  nope.. never used it.. :)
[01:42] <rTk^cool> now it stopped
[01:42] <barqers> Socah: I've tried that, but nothing seems to work for my situation
[01:42] <sandy> where to get that wicd
[01:42] <Socah> sandy, wait, what's ur modem?
[01:42] <manbreadj> how can i access the config files?
[01:42] <pronoy> Dr_Willis its the best network vulnerability scanner out there !!!!!!!!
[01:42] <Socah> manbreadj, wait a sec
[01:42] <manbreadj> ok
[01:42] <sandy> siemens c2110
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> pronoy:  so? :) my network is a whole 3 pc's
[01:43] <Socah> manbreadj, check this out http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&rlz=1G1GGLQ_PLPL295&q=resetting+gnome+menus&btnG=Szukaj&lr=
[01:43] <Zetsubou> AUGH, OH SNAP. I got pen pressure working! <3 I am happyfayse now, I should've messed around with more things before asking for help. Ahaha. Thanks though, porter1.
[01:43] <timn> sandy, I guess something just conflicrts with your modem. Probably GNOME's network manager which is started upon login.
[01:43] <sandy> connected through lancard(intex)
[01:43] <tanath> i'm having serious issues with ubuntu right now. the latest kernel does a kernel panic on boot, and the previous one has graphical glitches that make it difficult & annoying to read
[01:43] <pronoy> Dr_Willis understanding a network requires knowledge of how it works...enter nessus
[01:43] <manbreadj> ok
[01:43] <Skaperen> manbreadj: you can always reinstall ... that might help ... then this time don't add any new packages but check the space usage ... then update only and check usage again
[01:43] <sandy> any soln to it?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> pronoy:  nah - networks are all about the fat pipes! :P
[01:44] <Skaperen> manbreadj: backup your data to the SD card or a USB memory stick
[01:44] <timn> sandy, ah, probably the network manager tries to assign an IP over DHCP which of course fails.
[01:44] <pronoy> Dr_Willis ok but question still stands
[01:44] <pronoy> anyone can help me with NESSUS ?
[01:45] <Socah> sancas, you must copy output of lspci -v to the ubuntu's paste (check TOPIC of channel) and give us link
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Perhaps ask a more specific question pronoy.
[01:45] <porter1> Zetsubou, no problem.
[01:45] <Socah> manbreadj, solved ur problem?
[01:45] <IsmAvatar> Question: How would I get a listing of all devices connected to my router, especially wirelessly
[01:45] <pronoy> how to add a admin user to nessus 3.2.1 client....can anyone please help me with NESSUS ?!?!
[01:46] <manbreadj> umm, i think i'm getting in over my head...some of its not english.
[01:46] <sandy> then how to stop the network manager to assign ip over dcph
[01:46] <Socah> manbreadj, sec
[01:47] <manbreadj> ok
[01:47] <timn> sandy, sorry, I don't use Ubuntu and GNOME but IMHO it is possible to disable the network manager completely ... somehow
[01:47] <Socah> manbreadj, try to sudo apt-get reinstall gnome-menu
[01:47] <sandy> hmm
[01:47] <manbreadj> ok
[01:48] <Socah> manbreadj, or if you are not scared of loosing changes that you made to look of your gnome, simply remove file (rm -r ~/.gnome*)
[01:48] <Jordan_U> sandy: System > Preferences > Network setup a static connection
[01:48] <Socah> and relog
[01:49] <arktsone>  i have tried various ways of installing Call Of Duty 4 but i have failed everytime, anybody have had luck installing CoD4? I've tried POL, WINE, i don't think im doing WINE correctly, but anybody, please help!
[01:49] <bazhang> http://hackertarget.com/2009/06/guide-to-nessus-4-on-ubuntu-904/ pronoy
[01:49] <Socah> arktsone, did you visited winehq? there is a how to for installing CoD
[01:50] <arktsone> Socah: i did, i tried the instructions, but i was getting a problem installing directx
[01:50] <sandy> how to set it up as static
[01:50] <manbreadj> no not worried about that at all
[01:50] <timn> sandy, probably this might be interesting for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling%20NetworkManager
[01:50] <manbreadj> how do i do that
[01:50] <sandy> i never say any such option there
[01:50] <manbreadj> ?
[01:50] <Skaperen> manbreadj: you probably need to re-install from scratch ... that should work, even if you don't really need to ... but manually fixing as it is now probably is "in over your head"
[01:50] <Socah> arktsone, you could try this: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/02/21/how-to-run-call-of-duty-4-cod4-modern-combat-in-linux/
[01:51] <sandy> is there any tutorial for that?
[01:51] <manbreadj> okn i have to do that from the disk, right?
[01:51] <Socah> manbreadj, open terminal, and type rm -r ~/.gnome*
[01:51] <arktsone> brb
[01:51] <manbreadj> ok
[01:52]  * Black_Phantom out, good night all
[01:52] <Skaperen> manbreadj: you might need to install less stuff
[01:52] <Jordan_U> sandy: Choose The interface you want to configure, click add, then in the ip settings tab choose "manual" as the method instead of DHCP
[01:52] <Skaperen> manbreadj: I did an install then an upgrade, without adding other packages, and the size I got was much less than the size of your space
[01:53] <laeg> can anyone tell me the difference between allowing a port and limiting it?
[01:53] <timn> sandy, if you don't need the network manager at all, the easiest would be to completely remove it. But then you won't be able to use a GUI to configure ethernet.
[01:53] <laeg> i can set allow/limit/deny/block
[01:53] <laeg> which no explanation to the first 2 and second 2 :(
[01:53] <manbreadj> so how can i remove something i've installed?
[01:54] <Socah> manbreadj, sudo apt-get remove package-name
[01:54] <bruenig> manbreadj: apt-get remove
[01:54] <Skaperen> allow allows all, limit restrists some connections like certain IP addresses, deny causes connections to be refused, block just does nothing not even a refusal
[01:54] <Kalmi> laeg, block silently discards...
[01:55] <arktsone> Socah: i was thinking about that one, but he uses an old version of WINE, and i don't know if it will have issues, since I've read you can get errors on different versions
[01:56] <dryfyre> what is the difference between uuntu and red hat
[01:56] <Socah> arktsone, most simple way - go to winehq, check for your version's rating, check comments for this version (people often write what they problem had, and how they solved it), I think nobody can help you there with wine. You can always joint #winehq channel
[01:56] <thebuck86> !support
[01:56] <arktsone> Socah: thanks, ill check into that
[01:56] <IsmAvatar> dryfyre: branding, different set of software initially installed, also who maintains them/programs them.
[01:56] <thebuck86> dryfyre: thats offtopic for this channel
[01:56] <timn> dryfyre, Red Hat and Canonical are completely different distributors
[01:56] <Socah> dryfyre, fastes way is google.com
[01:57] <dryfyre> it is on topic
[01:57] <dryfyre> this is he ubuntu support
[01:58] <prince_jammys> ... different packaging system. I think wikipedia shows the differences.
[01:58] <Socah> manbreadj, did you removed this file and relogged?
[01:59] <manbreadj> it says : cannot remove '/home/lucas/.gnome*' no such file or directory
[02:00] <Socah> manbreadj, type rm -r ~/gnome2
[02:00] <fetch> hey
[02:00] <_Space_Case_> anybody use the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q to wach DTV in linux?
[02:00] <fetch> whats up
[02:00] <Socah> ~/.gnome2
[02:00] <fetch> all
[02:00] <manbreadj> ok
[02:00] <Socah> Hello fetch
[02:00] <IsmAvatar> fetch: unemployment :-)
[02:00] <manbreadj> sudo?
[02:00] <thebuck86> fetch: a job
[02:00] <Socah> manbreadj, not needed
[02:00] <manbreadj> ok
[02:00] <fetch> yes......you have one for mee
[02:01] <timn> _Space_Case_, no but I have a similar card. What's your problem?
[02:01] <IsmAvatar> fetch: sure, if you're willing to work for free
[02:01] <fetch> hahahaha
[02:01] <Socah> manbreadj, you can always go into your home folder, click ctrl+h, and find folder named .gnome2 and delete it like every other folder
[02:01] <fetch> what kind of work
[02:02] <rTk^cool> sound!
[02:02] <thebuck86> fetch: lemme get one for myself and I'll let you know, uh preferably setting up ubuntu systems
[02:02] <manbreadj> same response: no such file or directory
[02:02] <_Space_Case_> i want to purchase a card/usb stick for the laptop to wach DTV was wondering what to get...
[02:02] <Socah> manbreadj, are you using gnome at all? lol
[02:02] <fetch> really...i was thinking the same thing
[02:02] <manbreadj> yes that much i know!
[02:02] <fetch> the market is there
[02:03] <Socah> manbreadj, write priv message to me
[02:03] <fetch> where are you located
[02:03] <manbreadj> ok
[02:03] <thebuck86> fetch starbucks in ca us
[02:03] <IsmAvatar> Question: How can I get a listing of all devices connected to my router, especially wireless devices?
[02:03] <fetch> i'm in columbia...south carolina
[02:04] <timn> _Space_Case_, according to Google that card is alraedy supported by Linux for quite some time.
[02:04] <thebuck86> IsmAvatar: you will need to connect to your router... each model of router is different
[02:05] <thebuck86> IsmAvatar: usually http://192.168.0.1 or 1.1
[02:05] <juanbond> hey guys, quick question about memory... is there a difference between buying a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227422, or can i get 2 of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227365 ??
[02:05] <Socah> IsmAvatar, propably you need to go to your router configuration site, log-in to the admin-panel and check logs, as thebuck86 says
[02:05] <timn> _Space_Case_, that's what it says at least on the official Hauppauge site (http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html)
[02:06] <IsmAvatar> thebuck86 and socah: I am connected by cat5 into the router, and have logged into that panel. I wasn't able to find anything that did what I wanted. Either it only lists hardwired computers or my wireless network is surprisingly vacant
[02:06] <coz_> juanbond,  alot is going to depend on the specifications for your motherboard
[02:06] <ctmjr> _Space_Case_, try this it is made for linux http://www.pchdtv.com/
[02:06] <Socah> juanbond, as far as I see, it's the same thing, but sold separatly, if you buy 2x second link, you got 1x first link
[02:07] <Socah> juanbond, same brand, same memory size, same speed
[02:07] <thebuck86> IsmAvatar: you could also run wireshark to see data traffic on your network (this gets somewhat advanced...yet fun)
[02:07] <juanbond> my motherboard i'm looking to buy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365
[02:07] <juanbond> Socah, and for much cheaper too :)
[02:07] <tayfun_> Hello people i  m looking for some useful tools for linux ubuntu something like nmap or some network tools or admin tools can somebody please give me a web addy so i can check up which softwares are avaible for linux ubuntu
[02:07] <tayfun_> ?
[02:08] <Socah> juanbond, for sure it's the same, but sold in other quantity
[02:08] <IsmAvatar> thebuck86: I was considering that. I was hoping for a solution that wouldn't require sitting around waiting for their computer to send out packets, though
[02:08] <Pici> juanbond: ##hardware would be a better place to ask, this is offtopic for Ubuntu support.
[02:08] <Pici> !ot
[02:08] <coz_> juanbond,  there are differences in performance between the two  also read the specifications for each
[02:08] <thebuck86> tayfun_: run synaptic package manager .. that is the list of what is available
[02:08] <juanbond> Pici, thank you :)
[02:09] <IsmAvatar> maybe I could write a program that sniffs for new mac address packets, so I don't have to sit there and watch a dull list, lol
[02:09] <wfiuewfew> Hi! I just installed 8 gb on my machine. But ubuntu recognizes only 7.6 gb. Why and how do I resolve this? I was able to use 8 gb on a mac
[02:09] <juanbond> Pici, was looking for a channel like that, thanks again.
[02:09] <tayfun_> thebuck thanks i m already running but there is a lot of softwares so i thought maybe you have some web sites which i can look for the category of softwares and the describe of the softwares so i can look read and download the softwares which is what i meant
[02:09] <tayfun_> thanks
[02:09] <sapper>  /join #ubuntu-my
[02:09] <karamella> help help ( sos)
[02:10] <timn> tayfun_, SourceForge is a good starting point
[02:10] <Socah> wfiuewfew, in fast 8gb of ram is 7,6 as far as I know
[02:10] <thebuck86> tayfun_: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <tayfun_> thanks
[02:10] <wfiuewfew> Socah: what?
[02:10] <timn> tayfun_, but not all of the applications are in the Ubuntu/Debian repositories
[02:10] <johnibanez1> Whats a good working environment for Web Design? (spec. ubuntu)
[02:10] <IsmAvatar> Gedit
[02:10] <Socah> wfiuewfew, it's normal
[02:10] <IsmAvatar> :-p
[02:10] <johnibanez1> hahaha
[02:10] <wfiuewfew> Socah: Can you explain why
[02:11] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: that's a math thing gigabyte vs. gibibyte... totally cool
[02:11] <Socah> wfiuewfew, I don't know why, but it is - mine 4 gb ram is seen as 3,7gb - I will check why it is
[02:11] <karamella> pls any one can help me
[02:11] <Socah> ye, thebuck86 is right
[02:11] <alexnet> hi i am a linux newbie, and I have a php application that creates some files which isnt working... can someone work me through figuring out what user the application runs under and what permissions it has?
[02:11] <thebuck86> !gibibit
[02:11] <johnibanez1> Socah, maybe it's shared with your onboard graphics card.
[02:11] <wfiuewfew> thebuck86: So which is ubuntu system monitor reporting
[02:11] <tayfun_> timn thanks i m gonna read and i wont install all the applications i m just new here and interesting of new softwares so maybe i can find something useful i m actually using xp but i m trygin to using linux ubuntu i gotta tell you i love it its really nice
[02:12] <Socah> johnibanez1, it's possible, I'm using integrated card with shared memory
[02:12] <Socah> still new thing to learn ;)
[02:12] <johnibanez1> Socah, that might be your case there.
[02:13] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: gibibyte --- wolframalpha.com - gibibyte
[02:13] <karamella> how e-mail evoultion work i cant set up my account
[02:13] <timn> johnibanez1, a good editor (e.g. VIM), a web browser that passes ACID3 and has good debugging tools (hint: Arora looks promising but Firefox with the Web Developer extension isn't bad either)
[02:13] <rTk^> aweomse
[02:13] <Socah> karamella, where you got ur account?
[02:13] <Socah> on what site
[02:14] <wfiuewfew> thebuck86: which does ubuntu report?
[02:14] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: gibibyte
[02:14] <wfiuewfew> thebuck86: And a mac reports gigabyte?
[02:14] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: exactly
[02:15] <wfiuewfew> thebuck86: Oh thanks. That's interesting I am wondering why they chose that convention
[02:16] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: mathematicians were involved in the creation of ubuntu -- thats why
[02:16] <johnibanez1> Thanks timn
[02:17] <alexnet> Hello, how do I 1) figure out my apache user, 2) grant my apache user the ability to write files into a certian folder?
[02:17] <timn> np
[02:17] <timn> johnibanez1, if you're an opponent of WYSIWYG, Kompozer might be useful for you
[02:18] <thebuck86> alexnet: apache user is www-data ... sudo chown www-data:www-data directory
[02:18] <johnibanez1> timn, nah WYSISWYG is bad.
[02:18] <alexnet> thankyou thebuck86
[02:18] <johnibanez1> in a good way though. :))
[02:18] <fade__> Anyone familiar with TFTP and PXE?
[02:19] <alexnet> thebuck86 would those permissions be applied to all of the directories and files contained therein by using that command?
[02:19] <timn> johnibanez1, I agree but everybody who's ever used Frontpage (ugh) would miss such an application under Linux so it's good that we have an (even better) equivalent
[02:19] <prince_jammys> alexnet: the -R option to chown makes it recursive.
[02:20] <alexnet> thank  you prince_jammys
[02:20] <wfiuewfew> thebuck86: many thanks
[02:20] <thebuck86> alexnet: if you add -R to the end of it that will go recursively into all files/folders within a folder
[02:20] <thebuck86> wfiuewfew: no problem - just a guy sitting at starbucks
[02:20] <alexnet> okay, one more question... by granting permission to www-data am i *taking away* permissions from anyone else?
[02:20] <rTk^> what kind of nvidia drivers should i download
[02:21] <thebuck86> alexnet: probably .... what files are you changing?
[02:21] <ReallyLaCorde> Hallo Guys
[02:21] <prince_jammys> alexnet: yes, unless the previous owner was root.
[02:21] <rTk^> do i just download the windows xp drivers now:
[02:21] <ReallyLaCorde> who have my name
[02:22] <alexnet> prince_jammys, thebuck86, the previous owner was root.. its just some php app i made that writes a log into some folder, which it doesnt appear to be atm (i just applied the permissions i'll be trying it again in a moment)
[02:22] <thebuck86> !nvidia | rTk^
[02:23] <manbreadj> hello
[02:23] <pronoy> bazhang thanks...worked like a charm
[02:23] <prince_jammys> hello.
[02:23] <Oceanic> hello
[02:23] <alexnet> what command shows the permissions?
[02:23] <prince_jammys> ls -l
[02:23] <bazhang> Pronoy you're welcome
[02:24] <alexnet> thanks
[02:24] <bazhang> oops
[02:24] <alexnet> and www-data needs permissions to a folder if a php webpage intends to write to that folder, right?
[02:24] <rTk^> wow that was easy
[02:24] <rTk^> LOL
[02:24] <thebuck86> alexnet: yes
[02:24] <manbreadj> somebody was just helping me and i got disconnected. any body recognize my nick?
[02:25] <manbreadj> was it scolo?
[02:25] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: someone was apparently telling you to delete all .gnome* directories in your homedir
[02:26] <thebuck86> manhbreadj: scoch ... and they left
[02:26] <prince_jammys> "Socah" was the nick.
[02:26] <thebuck86> prince_jammys: you are right
[02:26] <manbreadj> yea that was it!my luck they left....
[02:26] <Lionyx> Does anybody here already installed the .7 version of Texas Poker? The packet on the repository is not updated to the new version of it.
[02:26] <thebuck86> manbreadj: what were you trying to do
[02:27] <manbreadj> now my dell won't even boot
[02:27] <thebuck86> manbreadj: details please
[02:27] <prince_jammys> you can't boot into ubuntu?
[02:27] <manbreadj> i was downloading updates, ran out of space and everything went to hell
[02:28] <manbreadj> no, i get the login screen but the it says to boot if a failsafe mode
[02:28] <prince_jammys> elaborate on the "everything went to hell" part.
[02:28] <thebuck86> manbreadj: i'd start over ... with a bigger harddrive
[02:28] <snaxx> whatup peeps
[02:28] <greensimian> Hey gang!
[02:28] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: so you can't start a gnome session?
[02:28] <manbreadj> im trying but i seem to have fallen inot a vortex i can't get out of
[02:28] <manbreadj> nope
[02:29] <prince_jammys> any error messages?
[02:29] <greensimian> I am looking to replace my MS Zune with something less shitty.  Anyone know of a handhel media player that sync with Unbuntu?
[02:29] <manbreadj> it says my session lasted less than ten seconds try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions
[02:30] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: log in that way
[02:30] <gnac_> whats a gnome amarok equivalent?
[02:30] <timn> manbreadj, have you already tried it with a vanilla xorg.conf? As root: Xorg -configure
[02:30] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: and in the terminal:  ls -l .ICEauthority
[02:31] <manbreadj> it wont let me. when i enter the usename and password i get the try failsafe session message
[02:31] <manbreadj> timn, i don't know what you mean
[02:31] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: do you know how to switch to console?
[02:31] <timn> manbreadj, go to Ctrl-Alt-F2
[02:31] <manbreadj> ok im there
[02:31] <rTk^> i hate how installing something simple like aim isn't easy to install
[02:31] <manbreadj> cntr-alt-fn2, i mean
[02:32] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: log in there.
[02:32] <rTk^> unless i just havn't tried yet
[02:32] <timn> manbreadj, I think Xorg crashes just upon start that's why you get that failsafe session message.
[02:32] <Titan8990> !pidgin | rTk^
[02:32] <Lionyx> timn, here's a cool efect. you usualy type that kind of instruction and then the person won't never come back to the X screen ;)
[02:32] <timn> manbreadj, Perhaps it uses vesa then so you don't have graphical acceleration
[02:32] <Titan8990> rTk^, its installed by default
[02:32] <timn> Lionyx, hehe
[02:32] <manbreadj> ok, im into ctrl-alt-fn2
[02:33] <timn> To get back to the graphical display, use Ctrl-Alt-F7
[02:33] <greensimian> Titan8990: Pidgin rules1
[02:33] <manbreadj> timn, you're talking way over my head
[02:33] <greensimian> !
[02:33] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: type this (-l as in the letter L, and a dot before the I): ls -l .ICEauthority
[02:33] <timn> But please kill X first.
[02:33] <rTk^> whats it called
[02:33] <ladislaio> hello room
[02:33] <Titan8990> rTk^, pidgin
[02:33] <manbreadj> yea that was the problem before. I was going back anf forth between ctrl-alt f1 and ctrl-alt f7 and suddenly f7 was just giving me text
[02:33] <rTk^> i see
[02:33] <rTk^> lol
[02:34] <thebuck86> !who
[02:34] <rTk^> is irc installed already too
[02:34] <manbreadj> ok, prince
[02:34] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: your user name is lucas?
[02:34] <jengc0il> hi there
[02:34] <switch10_> rTk^: yup
[02:34] <rTk^> called what
[02:34] <ladislaio> is there still the bug with vista that sometimes renders the Vista install unbootable after shrinking it's partition and installing linux?
[02:35] <manbreadj> it said "-bash : -ls command not found"
[02:35] <switch10_> Pidgin
[02:35] <snaxx> is ettercap included with ubuntu?
[02:35] <manbreadj> yes username is lucas
[02:35] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: ls -l .ICEauthority
[02:35] <Sergeant_Pony> ladislaio, I'm running ubuntu and viats on my laptop and haven't run into that problem
[02:35] <r696> Hi, why is Firefox crashing all the time when playing Flash. Actually, it's not even able to play Flash most of the time. Should I ask in #firefox or does anyone know about this? I am guessing it's got to some sort of bug in Firefox. I really need Flash to play while developing websites.
[02:35] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: output should look like something this: -rw------- 1 lucas lucas 25969 Jul 13 20:54 .ICEauthority
[02:36] <homovitruvius> what is the right place for adding (per user) applications that need to start whenever a gnome session starts? I want to preserve all behaviour of scripts in Xdefault.d. Thx
[02:36] <zetanuxi> does anyone know if FL Studio will run in Jaunty? perhaps through wine?
[02:36] <Kalmi> r696, 32/64 bit OS? 32/64 bit flash?
[02:36] <manbreadj> yes i got that
[02:36] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: output is like what i showed?
[02:37] <manbreadj> yes, different numbers but otherwise the same
[02:37] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: ok. so we can eliminate that problem.
[02:37] <ladislaio> Sergeant_Pony, thank you.  A year ago vista had issues with the boot manager crapping out on you sometimes after an install
[02:37] <Um_cara_qualquer> is there a nice music downloader on ubuntu 9.04?
[02:37] <Sergeant_Pony> ladislaio, no problems here, I started with ubuntu 8.04 and upgraded til I got to 9.04 and had no problems at all with the vista partitions.
[02:37] <rTk^> bittorrent
[02:37] <Lionyx> Does anybody here has nvidea graphic cards electrical Schematics?
[02:38] <ladislaio> snaxx, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:38] <ladislaio> Sergeant_Pony, thank you once more
[02:38] <thebuck86> lionyx: probably not -- they are proprietary
[02:38] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: frostwire
[02:38] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: single songs, or bulk downloading?
[02:38] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: please look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23467
[02:38] <manbreadj> ok
[02:38] <switch10_> Just like limewire
[02:38] <tanath> i'm having serious issues with ubuntu right now. the latest kernel does a kernel panic on boot, and the previous one has graphical glitches that make it difficult & annoying to read
[02:39] <ladislaio> tanath, what is your graphics card?
[02:39] <Lionyx> thebuck86, infact i do not need the full diagram, only the parts list so i might replace a couple of condensers ;)
[02:39] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: bah, scrap that. that only covers the ICEauthority problem, which you don't seem to have.
[02:39] <Um_cara_qualquer> switch10_: thx
[02:39] <Um_cara_qualquer> zetanuxi: single songs... albuns... any kind of music
[02:40] <timn> Um_cara_qualquer, you can use any torrent client to download music
[02:40] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: google ubuntu "your session lasted less than 10 seconds"   in the meantime. It appears plenty in the forums.
[02:40] <Um_cara_qualquer> where can i find the torrents?
[02:40] <thebuck86> Lionyx: Same difference .. unless you are an E.E. and identify the condensers, you are probably sol
[02:40] <timn> Um_cara_qualquer, Piratebay
[02:40] <ladislaio> Um_cara_qualquer, or, you know, you could go to a store and buy it...
[02:40] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: google
[02:40] <tanath> ladislaio, ati radeon 9800se
[02:40] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[02:41] <mac9416_> Hello, I am running Fluxbox and having a bit of trouble getting my sound un-muted or turned up. In Gnome I would use the panel applet, but that's not in Flux.
[02:41] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: torrentjunkie
[02:41] <Um_cara_qualquer> got it xD
[02:41] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: okay, for bulk, a bittorrent client. for individual songs, perhaps KCEasy, using the compiled code.
[02:41] <switch10_> That's all I'm saying
[02:41] <Um_cara_qualquer> uhum...
[02:41] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: here's a more relevant one, from someone who ran out of disk space: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3421287
[02:41] <switch10_> Pirating=bad
[02:41] <Lionyx> thebuck86, I'm getting there, only some more time to get my EE degree :)  the problem with them is that both exploded over the label.
[02:41] <ctmjr> !pirate
[02:41] <Um_cara_qualquer> hehe
[02:41] <Um_cara_qualquer> not for me
[02:41] <timn> Um_cara_qualquer,  There is a download client by Amazon. This enables you to download music completely legally.
[02:42] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[02:42] <ladislaio> mac9416_, install and run alsamixer in the terminal(unless ubuntu no longer uses alsa)
[02:42] <Um_cara_qualquer> legaly... what's the fun on that
[02:42] <thebuck86> Lionyx: you might be able to get hi-res pictures of the card, perhaps?
[02:42] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: use uTorrent.
[02:42] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: not getting busted. Check out moblock...
[02:42] <Um_cara_qualquer> k
[02:42] <Um_cara_qualquer> thx everyone
[02:42] <switch10_> zetanuxi: is there a utorrent? I use deluge
[02:43] <Lionyx> thebuck86, this would probably work, i'll try to catch some of this on google
[02:43] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: get torrent files from www.torrentz.com     tis a torrent search engine.
[02:43] <cweilema> Hey all - I have a directory of 200 files and I want to create archives (zip files) of those files in sets of 20.  Can anyone assist with a script that would accomplish this?
[02:43] <Kalmi> switch10_, utorrent work fine under wine
[02:43] <ladislaio> tanath, are you using the open or closed source drivers for it?
[02:43] <c0l2e> will this work with ubuntu  ???  http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=us&bid=2&pgid=119&pid=318
[02:43] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: im fairly certain they have .deb packages on the uTorrent site.
[02:44] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: are you there?
[02:44] <gnac_> so hp mini mi seems to have co-opted the gnome panel for its own uses.  is there another way to access the gnome application menus?  eg in kde you can view the start menu from within konqueror
[02:44] <Um_cara_qualquer> humm
[02:44] <r696> Kalmi: 32 bit OS.
[02:44] <tanath> ladislaio, open
[02:44] <switch10_> I use wine as a last resort. Deluge works great
[02:44] <tanath> ladislaio, open drivers have generally worked fine. had issues with fglrx
[02:44] <manbreadj> yea
[02:44] <mac9416_> ladislaio, thanks, alsamixer worked, and managed to wake me up when the sound suddenly came on ;-)
[02:44] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: the last link i posted seems more similar to your problem.
[02:45] <switch10_> I don't like transmission personally
[02:45] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: okay, they do not. i'll have to recall how i got uTorrent to work stand-alone in Jaunty.
[02:45] <tanath> ladislaio, things were fine, but recent updates have been problematic
[02:45] <manbreadj> these forums are going beyond my knowlege (which is not very far!)yea it seems like its getting warmer
[02:45] <manbreadj> i think the problem might be some stuff my son put on the computer, but i cant seem to remove anything
[02:45] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: all they are suggesting to do is to delete some extra files to make space
[02:45] <ladislaio> mac9416_, you are welcome
[02:46] <manbreadj> ok
[02:46] <lounatic> accidentally deleted blacklist.conf on a new install of Ubuntu server. can anybody tell me what the default contents are or where I can find them?
[02:47] <Um_cara_qualquer> zetanuxi: transmission is also good
[02:47] <darwinwj> Anyone have any tips on how to network my intrepid with an xp sp2 machine behind a router? I don't seem to be able to see the shared files on the xp... my third vista machine sees the xp ok????
[02:47] <ladislaio> tanath, not sure what to do then.  Perhaps get a Nvidia card... sorry I cannot be of much more help.
[02:47] <manbreadj> i feel like i need to unlearn anything i know about dos or windows...easier said than done. one might say my mind has been corrupted....
[02:47] <thebuck86> lounatic: blacklist.conf is usually blank
[02:47] <ladislaio> tanath, you could try the closed source drivers with the older kernel, but I find them to be a huge pain
[02:47] <tanath> ladislaio, i'm using an ati radeon 9800se... if i could afford a new card, don't you think i'd get one? :P
[02:47] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: transmission is okay. there are better.
[02:48] <lounatic> ah, great, thanks thebuck86!
[02:48] <switch10_> Deluge
[02:48] <Um_cara_qualquer> zetanuxi: better... you mean lighter or faster downloads?
[02:48] <Um_cara_qualquer> or both? o_O
[02:48] <tanath> ladislaio, i think there's bugs in recent updates. thanks anyway
[02:49] <khelvan> Is there a simple GUI program available in Ubuntu to help me change a matroska .mkv (mpeg4 part 2 asp codec) video file into a .mp4 video file?
[02:49] <manbreadj> so where do i go now? do i need to find a drive and reinstall ubuntu from the disk?
[02:49] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: no more features. Like control the speed of individual dls etc...
[02:49] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: both.
[02:49] <ladislaio> khelvan, vlc
[02:49] <ladislaio> khelvan, although it is not *that* simple, it will do what you want
[02:49] <prince_jammys> !info mkvtoolnix-gui | khelvan
[02:49] <switch10_> khelvan: ffmpeg
[02:50] <iztehsux> if i removed a drive that was formerly being used for RAID, and i want to remove the TYPE="mdraid" flag, how do i do that?
[02:50] <Um_cara_qualquer> such as?
[02:50] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: Azureus is good. only problem is you have to compile it from java source (.jar)
[02:50] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[02:50] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: dude just get deluge
[02:50] <khelvan> Thanks, everyone
[02:50] <ladislaio> Um_cara_qualquer, ktorrent or deluge are the best ones on pure *nix
[02:51] <Um_cara_qualquer> deluge it is !!! x]
[02:51] <prince_jammys> i'm showing azureus in the repos
[02:51] <ladislaio> Um_cara_qualquer, rtorrent is great but it is a ncurses program
[02:51] <prince_jammys> (hardy)
[02:51] <manbreadj> or maybe i should drive over it with my truck and see if that helps
[02:51] <prince_jammys> hit it with a hammer
[02:51] <ladislaio> Um_cara_qualquer, but for building a music library, you cannot beat your local record store
[02:52] <Um_cara_qualquer> kkkkkkkk
[02:52] <zetanuxi> um_cara_qualquer: sorry i couldnt help. i tend to do things the long, tedious way.
[02:52] <switch10_> ladislaio: this is true
[02:52] <manbreadj> believe me, im tempted. maybe if it was mine and not my son's...
[02:52] <Um_cara_qualquer> relax
[02:52] <switch10_> I'm a musician
[02:52] <Um_cara_qualquer> me too
[02:52] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: i really doubt you need to reinstall. research the problem in the forums first
[02:52] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: you can search for "your session lasted less than 10 seconds". there's several threads.
[02:53] <c0l2e> can ubuntu be a XDMCP server??
[02:53] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: u use ardour?
[02:53] <karancho> yes
[02:53] <Um_cara_qualquer> nops
[02:53] <lf4> Could some one help me out with a bluetooth issue? I'm following the steps in the wiki but cant seem to locate the package bluez-pin.
[02:53] <c0l2e> I'm plannig to purchase.. thin clients and use ubuntu as the server
[02:53] <ladislaio> c0l2e, if you want.  you posted the link to that thin client, no?
[02:53] <Um_cara_qualquer> i don't know what it is :P sorry
[02:53] <Um_cara_qualquer> i play guitar... nothing else
[02:53] <ladislaio> c0l2e, what do you need the thin clients for?
[02:53] <manbreadj> now, i just want to boot it up. every time i try a fix, it gets worse... i need a forum for complete idiots.
[02:53] <c0l2e> http://www.encore-usa.com/product_item.php?region=us&bid=2&pgid=119&pid=318
[02:54] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: how did it get worse?
[02:54] <c0l2e> In our office I'm planning to cut down upgrades of workstations..
[02:54] <prince_jammys> !info bluez-pin
[02:54] <slaughtermania> !
[02:54] <prince_jammys> !find bluez
[02:54] <slaughtermania> !KDE > arrigonfr
[02:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> well... i don't know the name of that other instrument in english... we brasilians call "gaita"
[02:54] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: right on. U ever get into recording look into ardour. It's like pro tools but free
[02:54] <prince_jammys> lf4: there doesn't appear to a package by that name.
[02:54] <c0l2e> The encore thin clients.. says only works on RDP or XDMCP
[02:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> humm
[02:55] <lf4> prince_jammys: Humm alright thanks :) seems liek I need to manually configure it with hci then.
[02:55] <warlinux> #j ubuntu-br
[02:55] <manbreadj> well, now i can't even get it running except for in this terminal and thats an area i know nothing about. its like DOS, but its not...
[02:55] <patdk-lap> is there any ftp clients that support ipv6? so far they all are bombing out on me
[02:55] <ladislaio> you could turn old work stations into thin clients at first to test if that would work for you
[02:55] <Um_cara_qualquer> what's the name again?
[02:55] <slaughtermania> !kde > slaughtermania
[02:55] <switch10_> Ardour
[02:55] <ladislaio> c0l2e, (see above, forgot to flag you)
[02:55] <c0l2e> does XDMCP server works in ubuntu??
[02:55] <switch10_> In the repo
[02:55] <c0l2e> ok
[02:55] <Um_cara_qualquer> i need a nice sound board?
[02:56] <ladislaio> c0l2e, yes.  it does.  Xservers are two parts, always.
[02:56] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: try making space by removing the Trash dir:  rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash
[02:56] <manbreadj> ok wait a minute...
[02:56] <manbreadj> this time it started!
[02:56] <switch10_> Um_cara_qualquer: not really I have a USB 8 track. Like 3 years old. Works great
[02:56] <ladislaio> c0l2e, you just have to set it up
[02:56] <Lenin_Cat> it says use VLC for high quilty on some sites, how do I do this?
[02:56] <Um_cara_qualquer> ah
[02:56] <switch10_> Alesis $150
[02:56] <Um_cara_qualquer> humm...
[02:57] <zetanuxi> has anyone got FL studio to work in jaunty?
[02:57] <c0l2e> ladislaio: hmm ok.. I haven't bought it yet.. just wanna get info first before purchasing
[02:57] <switch10_> Or less by now
[02:57] <ladislaio> c0l2e, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager
[02:57] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: it started inexplicably, or after you deleted Trash?
[02:57] <c0l2e> ladislaio: how will I know that my ubuntu machine has the XDMCP service active??
[02:58] <ladislaio> c0l2e, try converting some of them into thin clients first
[02:58] <manbreadj> inexplicably
[02:58] <prince_jammys> great
[02:59] <c0l2e> ladislaio: I tried it before but on opensuse and it works
[02:59] <ladislaio> c0l2e, you have to set it up, open ports and all that junk.
[02:59] <switch10_> By all
[02:59] <switch10_> Bye
[02:59] <manbreadj> but my menus are missing options, some don't work, quit doesn't shut down properly
[02:59] <c0l2e> ladislaio: hmm ok thanks.. have you forwarded any link to dirty fix it?
[02:59] <ladislaio> c0l2e, likewise, i have done nothing like that in ubuntu. arch is my system
[02:59] <ladislaio> c0l2e, i shall see.  one moment
[02:59] <rodolfo> Hello everyone
[03:00] <manbreadj> and now its locked up
[03:00] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: did you try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:00] <prince_jammys> manbreadj: earlier you were talking about an error message that suggested that command. Did you run it?
[03:00] <c0l2e> ladislaio: some said you have to be in kubuntu or KDEs for XDMCP
[03:00] <manbreadj> yea thats what the other guy had me doing. it wasn't working
[03:01] <manbreadj> is there a task manager type thing to access when it locks up?
[03:02] <ladislaio> c0l2e, nope
[03:02] <arch3angel> hello everyone - hope everyone is doing well
[03:02] <ladislaio> c0l2e, you do not even need a DE, but the login mananagers make it much easier
[03:02] <revfeuerfrei> evening folks
[03:02] <arch3angel> anyone know why ubuntu would stop mounting a partition when I click on it through gnome places
[03:03] <ladislaio> c0l2e, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/RemoteAccess
[03:03] <arch3angel> gives me this error
[03:03] <c0l2e> ladislaio: thanks
[03:03] <arch3angel> Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'HOME'.
[03:03] <manbreadj> won't do anything no, no ctr-alt fns
[03:04] <ladislaio> c0l2e, make sure your network is secure or you use ssh to encrypt the path
[03:04] <ladislaio> c0l2e, good luck.  hope the network is fast enough for you
[03:04] <arch3angel> anyone
[03:04] <revfeuerfrei> I come because I've given this my all, and the forums aren't able to guide me this time. I have a Linksys wusb54gc. And I cannot get the damn thing to go. I downloaded the drivers from linksys, I've used ndiswrapper to install the driver, but I don't think it went in correctly. Brand new install of Kubunt 9.0.4
[03:05] <manbreadj> now it really is an overpriced paperweight
[03:05] <arch3angel> anyone have the mounting answer to my issue
[03:05] <wolf23> help please! i have a .avi movie film , i put it on a dvd player the film begin but the audio sound is after the images, can anyone tell me how to make the audio and the image at the same time please
[03:05] <c0l2e> ladislaio: yes.. we usually use web browser and openoffice.. that's all... hahahah
[03:06] <ladislaio> arch3angel, you have mounting problems, when mounting a partion that is not mounted durring boot?
[03:06] <arch3angel> Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'HOME'.
[03:06] <ladislaio> c0l2e, sounds like a good place to use thin clients
[03:06] <arch3angel> when i click on places in gnome
[03:06] <c0l2e> ladislaio: most of our intranet system are web-based... so no need to open numerous applications
[03:06] <arch3angel> and then the partition
[03:06] <Edu> olá alguem fala portugues?
[03:06] <arch3angel> it gives me this error
[03:06] <arch3angel> i am thinking i screwed it up when i was trying to view the properties
[03:07] <arch3angel> but not sure how to fix it
[03:07] <c0l2e> ladislaio: thanks.. previously I've done this using opensuse.. but the system upgrades of the host system is a big hassle not like debian-based.. very easy
[03:07] <ladislaio> c0l2e, have you tried the split user boxes?
[03:07] <n2diy> ! portugues
[03:07] <arch3angel> i just want it back the way it was
[03:07] <manbreadj> i'm so sick of this shit. I have 8 or 9 computers in my garage that all work or at least used to. i get these system f-ups and they may as well be worthless to me. it pisses me off 'cause i know most of you guys could probably fix them quite easily, but to me they may as well be smashed....
[03:07] <arch3angel> have it mounted when i need it
[03:07] <c0l2e> and  we use old machine as clients.. but most of old machines are not dead
[03:08] <ladislaio> c0l2e, i like apt.  it is nice.
[03:08] <kyle5> Excuse me, but I need networking help. I'm using 'network-admin' to change my external ip. My router uses WPA security and the only options are WEP(hexadecimal) and WEP(ascii). What should i do?
[03:08] <c0l2e> ladislaio: me too just recently
[03:08] <c0l2e> been using SuSE for almost 5 years now
[03:08] <n2diy> manbreadj: everybody needs at least one test box.
[03:08] <manbreadj> i hate to throw this one into the pile after only two days, but....
[03:08] <Grant-A> pfft
[03:08] <Grant-A> I don't use a test box, I use virtual machines
[03:08] <manbreadj> how about a dozen or so>
[03:08] <jmigel> manbreadj stop throwing away computers
[03:08] <manbreadj> ?
[03:09] <c0l2e> just last 2008 we convert few standalone workstation to ubuntu
[03:09] <arch3angel> new error just appeared
[03:09] <snaxx> anyone know what this git-tree is for wireless device drivers?
[03:09] <arch3angel> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[03:09] <manbreadj> at least here i found a few folks who try to help me. with windows im completely s.o.l
[03:10] <manbreadj> im not throwing them away, im storing them. why? i don;t know
[03:10] <kyle5> Excuse me, but I need networking help. I'm using 'network-admin' to change my external ip. My router uses WPA security and the only options are WEP(hexadecimal) and WEP(ascii). What should i do?
[03:10] <n2diy> manbreadj: parts!
[03:11] <ladislaio> c0l2e, if you are distro shopping, i suggest taking a look at arch, but it may be to bleeding edge for an office
[03:11] <jmigel> kyle5 when you say externsl ip do you mean the routers address on the internet?
[03:11] <manbreadj> unfortunately i can't get many parts out of this mini
[03:11] <kyle5> jmigel: Yes, I use a router and I need my external ip Changed
[03:12] <jmigel> kyle5 why dont you try logging into the routers web page then?
[03:12] <wolf23> help please! i have a .avi movie film , i put it on a dvd player the film begin but the audio sound is after the images, can anyone tell me how to make the audio and the image at the same time please!any idea??
[03:12] <manbreadj> not even the power button responds...
[03:12] <kyle5> jmigel I did, I can't seem to change it from there
[03:12] <snaxx> can anyone help me out with a driver real quick
[03:12] <Samich> Hello, I am seeking help with BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects while trying to load up the live disc to install.
[03:13] <manbreadj> anything else to try besides pulling the plug?
[03:13] <jmigel> kyle5 thats where you do it... find the "renew ip address" button
[03:13] <ladislaio> c0l2e, have you cositered the multi-headed multi user system?  although this would need to have a fairly small office area.
[03:13] <kyle5> jmigel Ok, I will look again, I'll be back in a bit
[03:13] <nessa> what is a good program for managing an iPod... first i need to remove songs from and existing and then add them to another ipod
[03:13] <c0l2e> ladislaio: thanks.. yeah our office always request for the bleeding edge version
[03:14] <c0l2e> ladislaio: I just recommend centos or ubuntu 8.04.. but they always want to newer openoffice nor firefox... hahahaha
[03:14] <Ushaib> hi
[03:14] <manbreadj> wait, its on the battery, can't pull the plug. what now?
[03:14] <ladislaio> c0l2e, arch takes about 2-3 days to get the new stuff out there
[03:14] <ladislaio> c0l2e, and is rolling release
[03:14] <Ushaib> How can I add a right-click command to Nautilus, so that whenever files/folders are right-clicked, I can select "Copy to /home/user/specialfolder", and they get copied there.
[03:15] <ladislaio> c0l2e, the problem(s) come when you do not want the upgrade
[03:15] <bcurtiswx> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc8/ how do I add that PPA to my software sources?
[03:15] <oldude67> manbreadJ: holding power button till it goes off dont work?
[03:15] <ladislaio> c0l2e, http://www.archlinux.org/
[03:15] <manbreadj> yea that did it'
[03:15] <sseiersen> How do you tell apt to install all packages under a group?
[03:15] <wilsonnck> Ushaib: you're looking for nautilus scripts
[03:15] <c0l2e>  ladislaio: yeah arch is a Redhat code modification right??
[03:15] <c0l2e> much like centos?
[03:16] <sseiersen> Like in synaptic under GNOME desktop environment
[03:16] <dryfyre> pullthe battery
[03:16] <Samich> Hello, I am seeking help with BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects while trying to load up the live disc to install, havnt been able to find much on google.
[03:16] <dryfyre> pull out the battery
[03:16] <Ushaib> wilsonnck, thanks, I'll research that.
[03:16] <jmigel> Samich try turning off acpi in the bios
[03:16] <ladislaio> c0l2e, no.  not at all
[03:16] <n2diy> sseiersen: edit-select all?
[03:16] <Samich> Where might I be able to find it in there?
[03:17] <Samich> I took a look earlier, but didnt have any luck.
[03:17] <sseiersen> Im tryin to do it in konsole
[03:17] <manbreadj> how can i remove files to make more room?
[03:17] <ladislaio> c0l2e, it is a from the ground up one.  not a fork of anything
[03:17] <jmigel> Samich id suggest looking for the word ACPI
[03:17] <wilsonnck> sseiersen: you should be able to select the group itself like it was a package
[03:17] <fccf> Samich: & jmigel thats noacpi at boot prompt of live cd .. or grub bootline
[03:17] <Ahadiel> c0l2e, Arch is not based on redhat.
[03:17] <axisys> how do I make a non linux OS installer usb? unetbootin does not have a solaris OS in the menu
[03:17] <wilsonnck> sseiersen: That'll pull in all of it's "dependencies"
[03:17] <sseiersen> sudo apt-get install "gnome"?
[03:18] <c0l2e> ladislaio: hmm.. ok thanks for the info
[03:18] <Samich> Alright, before I check is there anything I could do at the BusyBox promt? That's where it keeps me.
[03:18] <oldude67> manbreadj, have you tried sudo apt-get remove file?
[03:18] <fccf> Samich: reboot
[03:18] <jmigel> Samich listen to fccf
[03:18] <manbreadj> i was trying that before it locked up
[03:18] <Samich> Alright
[03:18] <wilsonnck> c0l2e: I'm on arch at the moment, and while it's bleeding-edge it's quite stable
[03:19] <manbreadj> whats the command format?
[03:19] <Samich> Load into the bios, or the ubuntu screen?
[03:19] <Ahadiel> wilsonnck, Same here.
[03:19] <ladislaio> c0l2e, arch is a jump from ubuntu and suse, but it is faster and more up to date.  if you do not enjoy mananging a system you most likely would not like it
[03:19] <fccf> Samich: at ubuntu screen press F6 and add noacpi to the end of the line at the bottom of the screen above the menu
[03:19] <billisnice> I once found a link to fix youtube not playing in firefox. Can someone direct me to the link?
[03:20] <c0l2e> ladislaio: is it rpm or apt?
[03:20] <c0l2e> deb]
[03:20] <ladislaio> c0l2e, the wiki is quite complete http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
[03:20] <Ahadiel> c0l2e, neither, it uses pacman
[03:20] <ladislaio> c0l2e, it uses pacman
[03:20] <oldude67> manbreadj, there is a manual way to remove files with rm / please read the man pages first tho.
[03:20] <Samich> fccf: Ok, on my way to do that
[03:20] <ladislaio> c0l2e, works somewhat like apt
[03:20] <yiyezhou> Hello,Does anyone know how remove background of wbar?
[03:21] <c0l2e> ladislaio: hmm so I can use both??
[03:21] <yiyezhou> the background like glass.
[03:21] <ladislaio> c0l2e, no
[03:21] <c0l2e> rpm and deb package? or differently
[03:21] <dryfyre> any1 know how to set up a network switch
[03:21] <c0l2e> ah ok
[03:21] <Samich> fccf: Then close the little menu and try to load it again?
[03:21] <jeanne> Hi !
[03:21] <tayfun> hey people i m  new in linux ubuntu i want to ask something i need help i would like to use my xp what i have into my linux ubuntu so both of them at the same time how can i do this?
[03:21] <manbreadj> ok oldude67, it said "setting up dash (0.5.4-8ubunt1) ..."
[03:21] <newb2linux> join #xbmc-linux
[03:21] <lstarnes> tayfun: you can't use them at the same time
[03:21] <jmigel> dryfyre mine i just plug in and go
[03:21] <bcurtiswx> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc8/ how do I add that PPA to my software sources?
[03:21] <ladislaio> c0l2e, it has it's own package system, but it has a repro system like ubuntu
[03:21] <tayfun> what about virtual box?
[03:21] <newb2linux> join #xbmc-linux
[03:22] <c0l2e> ladislaio: hmm.. thanks
[03:22] <lstarnes> newb2linux: you're forgetting the / at the start
[03:22] <newb2linux> lk
[03:22] <wilsonnck> sseiersen: if you are trying to install gnome from kubuntu or another mod, try ubuntu-desktop
[03:22] <Jordan_U> tayfun: So both can use what at the same time?
[03:22] <newb2linux> thansk .
[03:22] <lstarnes> tayfun: I think you can run xp in virtualbox
[03:22] <tayfun> so tell me how
[03:22] <fccf> Samich: don't have to close the menu ... F6 noacpi enter ... ubuntu should load ... or we check what errors you get now .. ok
[03:22] <tayfun> which virtual box i got here virtual box ose from linux ubuntu
[03:22] <ladislaio> c0l2e, it is all there in the wiki
[03:23] <oldude67> manbreadj, did you read the comment i made about the rm / which i think you should read some of the man pages first cause you can make grave mistakes with it.
[03:23] <dryfyre> any one test out the 9.10
[03:23] <Void> toy alegre.. pero no se si estoy triste :S
[03:23] <Samich> fccf: It didn't load, or throw up any errors. Just added an X on the left of it.
[03:23] <bazhang> dryfyre, in #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <lstarnes> dryfyre: #ubuntu+1 is speficially for ubuntu 9.10
[03:23] <yiyezhou>  tayfun: download virtualbox from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[03:23] <manbreadj> yea that what i fear, where might i find those docs?
[03:23] <yiyezhou> .
[03:23] <lstarnes> tayfun: you could use that version or the official version from virtualbox.org
[03:24] <ascheel> yiyezhou: or:  sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[03:24] <tayfun> ok let me try
[03:24] <sseiersen> LMFAO
[03:24] <oldude67> manbreadj, man rm
[03:24] <oldude67> should show you
[03:24] <sseiersen> GNOME is 4 pages of packages
[03:24] <fccf> Samich: what iso are you using?
[03:24] <sandy_> hey guys
[03:24] <lstarnes> tayfun: the official one isn't free (as iin freedom)/open-source like the ose version in ubuntu, but it is free (as in price) to use
[03:25] <manbreadj> im sorry, i don't know what you mean by man rm
[03:25] <sandy_> i was having prob with my network
[03:25] <tayfun> i m downloading now this for linux i386
[03:25] <Ahadiel> manbreadj, type "man rm" into a terminal
[03:25] <sandy_> my modem was not detecting
[03:25] <manbreadj> ok
[03:25] <oldude67> manbreadj, open terminal and type in man rm
[03:25] <tayfun> but i386 is a ntfs file from xp isnt it?
[03:25] <sandy_> so i reinstalled ubuntu
[03:25] <TwoToneSpirit> ascheel, tayfun: Is Vbox 3.0 in the repos?
[03:25] <Samich> fccf: I just downloaded it from the site, the 32-bit. Not exactly which it is or isnt.
[03:25] <manbreadj> ahhh i see,
[03:25] <tayfun> yeah
[03:25] <lstarnes> tayfun: no.  i386 is a 32-bit intel processor architecture
[03:25] <lstarnes> tayfun: what is the output of uname -m?
[03:25] <sandy_> i donn what will happen when i reboot
[03:25] <tayfun> o ok then its the right onw
[03:26] <tayfun> what you mean
[03:26] <jmigel> sandy_ why are you worried about rebooting?
[03:26] <lstarnes> tayfun: open a terminal and type uname -m
[03:26] <yiyezhou> how remove background of wbar?
[03:26] <sandy_> coz
[03:26] <fccf> samich: what is the name of the file? ubuntu xxx . iso   ???
[03:26] <sandy_> las time when i connected to net
[03:26] <wolf23> anyone tell me how to take the sound from a .avi file and convert to mp3 please!
[03:26] <jmigel> sandy_ coz y?
[03:26] <sandy_> after i restarted
[03:26] <tayfun> x86-64
[03:27] <sandy_> it wont detect my modem
[03:27] <sandy_> x86
[03:27] <lstarnes> tayfun: then you should use the amd64 version of virtualbox
[03:27] <manbreadj> this is way beyond my limited knowlege and skills, i don't even know what files to remove, let alone how to use these commands
[03:27] <tayfun> ok
[03:27] <TwoToneSpirit> yiyezhou:  What is wbar?
[03:27] <Ahadiel> manbreadj, what are you trying to do?
[03:27] <sandy_> so i had no option left than to format it
[03:27] <manbreadj> make my computer work
[03:27] <TwoToneSpirit> tayfun: Either way, download it from the sun repo - http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-virtualbox-3.0-on-an-ubuntu-9.04-desktop
[03:27] <jmigel> sandy_ you dont think finding out what was wrong would help more?
[03:27] <oldude67> he is trying to remove files to make more room and the last time it crashed.
[03:27] <Ahadiel> manbreadj, and the problem is?
[03:28] <sandy_> is there any way to be sure that it will work again
[03:28] <Samich> fccf: Ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[03:28] <Sephy> Is there any program simlar to Alcohol 120 that will run on Ubuntu 9.04?
[03:28] <manbreadj> i downloaded updates, ran out of space and everything went caddywhampus
[03:28] <sandy_> no alcohol running
[03:28] <Hilikus> hey guys when i shut down or reboot i get "CIFS VFS server not responding \n No response for command 50 mid 30" and it hangs the system for like 20 seconds
[03:28] <Sephy> I said similar.
[03:28] <revfeuerfrei> I come because I've given this my all, and the forums aren't able to guide me this time. I have a Linksys wusb54gc. And I cannot get the damn thing to go. I downloaded the drivers from linksys, I've used ndiswrapper to install the driver, but I don't think it went in correctly. Brand new install of Kubuntu 9.0.4
[03:28] <manbreadj> menu options disappeared, some don't work, quit doesn't shutdown properly
[03:28] <jmigel> sandy_ have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/modem-identify.html
[03:28] <DasEi> wolf23: use mencoder for converting, see :
[03:28] <ladislaio> manbreadj, did the updates install?
[03:28] <Hilikus> i have some CIFS shares on fstab
[03:28] <DasEi> !mp3
[03:28] <Kyon0> WinAmp not running
[03:29] <vanessa> what is a good application for removing songs off an iPod
[03:29] <yiyezhou> wolf23: a icon bar in bottom of Desktop as Mac.
[03:29] <oldude67> manbreadj, have you done a dpkg --configure -a?
[03:29] <DasEi> wolf23: install amarok, vlc, mplayer
[03:29] <vanessa> or removal or play9ng?
[03:29] <vanessa> DasEi, for removale or just playing?
[03:30] <Samich> fccf: In the F6 menu I have acpi=off/noapic/nolapic/edd=on/Free software only as options
[03:30] <DasEi> vanessa: if you can mount the ipod, just delete it (or move tohd)
[03:30] <manbreadj> yea, it said "setting up dash (0.5.4-8ubuntu1) ..."
[03:30] <DasEi> !ipod | vanessa
[03:31] <fccf> Samich: does that do anything for you?
[03:31] <DasEi> !RockBox
[03:31] <manbreadj> how do i get out of this doc?
[03:31] <oldude67> manbreadj, hit q
[03:31] <myk_robinson> using ath5k driver, i have the occasional "floor calibration timeout" issue. If i use the madwifi trunk driver, i seem to be limited to 1MB rate.  What is the preferred method for good use of atheros wifi in Jaunty?
[03:32] <manbreadj> thanks
[03:32] <Samich> fccf: Whenever I select one it just adds an 'x' next to it, and then displays some code under the menu.
[03:32] <oldude67> yqw
[03:32] <linduxed1> for some reason mpd refuses do go down symlinks in my designated music directory...
[03:32] <fccf> Samich: have you run the test on the disk?
[03:32] <oldude67> manbreadj, you have done a dpkg --configure -a
[03:32] <Samich> fccf: When I try to do that it sends me to the same BusyBox, or whatever it was.
[03:32] <Samich> fccf: With the same error.
[03:33] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: This is obviously tough for you - how are things coming at this point?  Have you tried, as oldude67 suggests, running "dpkg --configure -a"?
[03:33] <manbreadj> it pauses then awaits another command
[03:33] <manbreadj> yea, that doesn't seen to be doing anything
[03:34] <oldude67> TwoToneSpirit, you have a suggestion for him..???
[03:34] <DasEi> !pm | wolf23
[03:34] <slaughtermania> does anyone know about any other docks for ubuntu 9.04 apart from awn manager? prolly some vertical dock?
[03:34] <linduxed> for some reason mpd refuses do go down symlinks in my designated music directory...
[03:34] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: How about dpkg --configure --pending?
[03:34] <DasEi> wolf23: just install vlc
[03:35] <fccf> Samich: Currently there are several different versions of ubuntu ... the one you have is the latest desktop version. Which may have some bugs, more than others.. however there is also a alternate version of the installer that doesn't have a graphical environment ... simple to use Text based installer ... you will have to download it from Also available are the Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron LTS (Long Term Support) which has been more thouroughly
[03:35] <quietas> I don't suppose anyone out there can recommend a fast PCI-E Sata II controller? I want to replace the slow PCI card I have now
[03:35] <wolf23> DasEi,  ok dine
[03:35] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: How much free space do you have at this point?
[03:35] <wolf23> DasEi,  ok done
[03:35] <DasEi> wolf: have a good time
[03:35] <TwoToneSpirit> oldude67, manbreadj: I'm not 100% clear on the problem - updates caused a drive to fill to capacity.  What are the current symptoms?
[03:35] <wolf23> DasEi,  i have the avi file on my desktop, now what can i do
[03:35] <sandy_> hey "poff" is not working
[03:36] <DasEi> wolf:for mplayer, install additional ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:36] <manbreadj> same thing: pause, then the command prompt.
[03:36] <fccf> quietas: that question is better answered in #hardware --- and is offtopic for this channel
[03:36] <sandy_> poffsandip@sandip-desktop:~$ poff
[03:36] <sandy_> kill: Operation not permitted
[03:36] <sandy_> /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.
[03:36] <Samich> fccf: So would you recommend I download an older version and go from there, or just go straight to the text-based installer?
[03:36] <oldude67> manbreadj, how big is your hard drive for this machine or do you know?
[03:36] <DasEi> wolf23:   vlc ~/Desktop/blah.avi
[03:37] <manbreadj> not sure its one of those mini netbooks.
[03:37] <quietas> fccf: could be, but I am specifically looking for this to be used with Ubuntu server
[03:37] <sandy_> how to stop the internet connection?
[03:37] <wolf23> DasEi,  i need to save the sound from the avi file?
[03:37] <sandy_> poff is not working
[03:37] <DasEi> wolf23 : no, its in the same file (in the avi)
[03:37] <oldude67> manbreadj, TwoToneSpirit  im not sure but wont fdisk -l give him this info?
[03:37] <sandy_> kill: Operation not permitted
[03:37] <sandy_> /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.
[03:38] <DasEi> sandy_: /etc/init.d/networking stop
[03:38] <wolf23> DasEi,  i know,but i want from the .avi file save the sound as mp3?
[03:38] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj, oldude67: to display free space?  df -h
[03:38] <DasEi> wolf23: audacity
[03:38] <oldude67> manbreadj, have never had a update take up all my hard drive before so im in new territory
[03:38] <sandy_> sandip@sandip-desktop:~$  /etc/init.d/networking stop
[03:38] <sandy_>  * Deconfiguring network interfaces...                                          ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[03:38] <sandy_>                                                                          [fail]
[03:38] <sandy_> not working
[03:38] <oldude67> TwoToneSpirit, thanks.
[03:38] <DasEi> sandy_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[03:39] <sandy_> hmm
[03:39] <Debolaz> When booting a CD image that has isolinux as bootloader, and I get the boot: prompt, what do I type to *add* parameters to the default set of parameters configured on the CD, rather than replace them entirely?
[03:39] <manbreadj> yea oldude, looks like 4g
[03:39] <sandy_> not working
[03:39] <ladislaio> sandy_, you need to run that as root
[03:39] <ladislaio> sandy_, use sudo
[03:39] <sandy_> how
[03:39] <manbreadj> and all of the usage %s = 100%
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: What exactly is wrong right now?
[03:40] <sandy_> i did sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[03:40] <ladislaio> sandy_, sudo <command> enter password at prompt
[03:40] <oldude67> TwoToneSpirit, he has a 4 gig hard drive and its full.
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> Wow only 4 gigs
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> wow
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> ok
[03:40] <sandy_> ok
[03:40] <oldude67> lol
[03:40] <fccf> Samich: personally if you want stability I'd use 8.04 ... consider the text based installer and go from there
[03:40] <sandy_> i think it is working now
[03:40] <sandy_> thnx
[03:40] <manbreadj> some menu items missing, some don't work, quit command doesn't shutdown properly
[03:41] <sandy_> hello
[03:41] <Samich> fccf: Alright then, thanks for the help.
[03:41] <Schizoid> hello
[03:41] <oldude67> !hi | sandy
[03:41] <sandy_> shit
[03:41] <sandy_> i am still connected
[03:41] <sandy_> net still on
[03:41] <Schizoid> i just installed jaunty, and my ethernet adaptor is not working
[03:41] <fccf> !language | sandy_
[03:41] <manbreadj> yea, not a real computer one of those mini netbooks. my son put some games on it, then i tried to download and install updates, ran out of room, everything went caddywhampus
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: OK let's go to basics here.  Have you run sudo apt-get clean?
[03:42] <DasEi> sandy_: or disable your nic, like sudo ifdowwn eth0
[03:42] <manbreadj> yes
[03:42] <ladislaio> sandy_, you are welcome.  why do you need the net down?
[03:42] <manbreadj> no response
[03:42] <sandy_> sorry fr my language
[03:42] <zopiac> Audio Preferences isnt letting me select my USB Microphone as my input device, but it detects it...help?
[03:42] <eka> hello
[03:42] <sandy_> guys this is my 2nd day with linux
[03:42] <fccf> TwoToneSpirit: he is out of space .. can't write to drive if it is full...free up some space and go from there
[03:43] <sandy_> i want to disconnect
[03:43] <manbreadj> but how can i free up some space?
[03:43] <oldude67> sandy_, hi and welcome to learning 101 lol
[03:43] <sandy_> n see if i can reconnect again
[03:43] <sandy_> :)
[03:43] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: Is there anything you know you can delete just to give yourself some breathing room?
[03:43] <DasEi> sandy_: then don't kill your line - pull the plug
[03:43] <manbreadj> some of us arent even ready for 101 yet....
[03:43] <eka> how to install tv tuner card in ubuntu?
[03:43] <mehdi> how to install photoshop
[03:43] <sandy_> ok
[03:43] <sandy_> so i have to turn off my modem right
[03:43] <manbreadj> yes but i don't know how to delete anything
[03:43] <oldude67> manbreadj, delete the kids games he can reinstall them later.
[03:43] <Schizoid> May some one help me get my ethernet working?
[03:44] <DasEi> eka:tvtime worked good for me
[03:44] <fccf> manbreadj: perhaps sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.* to start
[03:44] <sandy_> ok turning off my modem
[03:44] <sandy_> how to see u guys soon
[03:44] <eka> hi DasEi ,can you help me put
[03:44] <manbreadj> no add/remove option,synaptic package manager doesn't work
[03:44] <oldude67> manbreadj, try sudo apt-get remove (kids game)
[03:44] <DasEi> eka: tv card installed ?
[03:45] <oldude67> (kids game) = name of game
[03:45] <eka> can i install tvtime using synaptic
[03:45] <manbreadj> how can i find out what its called?
[03:45] <dryfyre> what is mythbuntu
[03:45] <oldude67> ls
[03:45] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: Sorry I am missing your comments - when the channel gets busy, you might want to put my nick in your comment so it highlights me. :-)  For example, if you have a zip file or a movie or game or something that you know you can replace, let's delete it just to give yourself some room to work
[03:45] <mehdi> wher is my wine in ubuntu 9.4?
[03:45] <racecar56> !mythbuntu | dryfyre
[03:45] <DasEi> !info tvtime | eka: yes
[03:45] <mehdi> wher is my wine in ubuntu 9.4?
[03:45] <mehdi> wher is my wine in ubuntu 9.4?
[03:45] <mehdi> wher is my wine in ubuntu 9.4?
[03:45] <FloodBot2> mehdi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <dryfyre> 9.04 does not come with wine
[03:46] <DasEi> medi: in the repos,:
[03:46] <Pluxii> hey, as some of you know i'm ubuntuly challenged.... i did find the help site at the ubuntu help sites, but honestly, it's still over my head i think, i'd hate to get the wrong terminal things going and end up messing everything up, please, feel free to PM me since it's probably going to be a long explanation, the help site i found is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock
[03:46] <bazhang> dryfyre, you can install it
[03:46] <racecar56> !wine | mehdi
[03:46] <eka> i have a tv tuner  but dont know hoe to use it ... it works well in windows
[03:46] <karategeek6> I recently install jaunty and everything was working fine, until tonight when my wireless decided to stop working.  When I booted up, not only does it not work, but it doesn't seem to be there.  lspci doesn't find any network controller. and lshw only finds pan0, listed as disabled.  Any help, please?
[03:46] <DasEi> !info wine >  mehdi
[03:46] <dryfyre> i know
[03:46] <racecar56> how can i make a bash script that checks the codename of the ubuntu release
[03:46] <panfistmx> i'm having trouble with a gnome application whose default window size (maybe only window size?) is greater than my screen resolution, and every time i click within the window it moves back and forth. how can i stop this?
[03:46] <DasEi> !version | racecar56
[03:47] <[R]> eka: well what do you want to do with it
[03:47] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: any progress?
[03:47] <isamar> needing some hand with ubuntu/debian installer... anyone knows that deeply ?
[03:47] <racecar56> DasEi: a bash script that checks the version, not a bash script that displays the version
[03:47] <ladislaio> isamar, and your problem is... ?
[03:47] <racecar56> DasEi: like if the codename of the ubuntu version is "jaunty" then it puts jaunty in $variable
[03:48] <manbreadj> yes
[03:48] <[R]> eka: that wasn't an invitation to msg me
[03:48] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: Can you ask in #bash?  Any other time would be OK, but this channel is kinda crazy right now.  :-)
[03:48] <DasEi> racecar56: you would have to pie the output and then match it agains a pattern, #bash
[03:48] <ladislaio> sandy_, welcome back
[03:48] <yiyezhou> isamar: describe more about your problem.
[03:48] <isamar> ladislaio: I did a custom install cd and it's failing to load libncurses.. then, it crashes..
[03:48] <libtech> if i want to run a program from the command line, is there a way to return to the prompt without closing the program. for example, i type "geany test.py" but the prompt is gone until i close geany
[03:49] <manbreadj> how do i put a nick in my messages
[03:49] <DasEi> racecar56: you would have to *pipe the output and then match it agains a pattern, #bash
[03:49] <TwoToneSpirit> libtech: ctrl-z
[03:49] <[R]> libtech: blah &
[03:49] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: Just type it
[03:49] <ladislaio> isamar, did you check the cd for defects?
[03:49] <oldude67> manbreadj, start typing the message then hit the tab key
[03:49] <isamar> ladislaio: it crashes right before loading bash package
[03:49] <b-f> Can ubuntu support FID/VID throttling on AMD Athlon processors?
[03:49] <fccf> TwoToneSpirit: there are people to help .. let people ask questions they may not get answer
[03:49] <DasEi> eka: tv card installed ?
[03:49] <manbreadj> ok, it seems i have freed up some space now
[03:49] <[R]> b-f: does linux support it?
[03:49] <oldude67> manbreadj, start typing the nick sorry
[03:49] <isamar> ladislaio: no.. I am not burning it. I am testing the ISO image directly thru a Virtual machine...
[03:50] <ladislaio> isamar, ncurses is the library that the interface is written in, so it not loading is always a dead stop
[03:50] <DasEi> !md5 | ladislaio
[03:50] <isamar> ladislaio: do you know how to build a custom install CD
[03:50] <ladislaio> isamar, did you check the md5 hash of the disk
[03:50] <eka> DasEi: i am lost ... i have a hp tv tuner card .... i  dont know how to install it
[03:50] <zopiac> in my sound preferences i cannot select my mic for sound capture, but in the drop-down box at the bottom it shows it...does anyone know how to fix?
[03:50] <oldude67> manbreadj, now try dpkg --configure -a
[03:50] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: Great!  What did you do so far to free up space?
[03:50] <ladislaio> DasEi, thanks, but it was for isamar
[03:50] <fccf> manbreadj: next step is to fix what went wrong... sudo apt-get -f install
[03:50] <manbreadj> moved the game to the trash and emptied it
[03:50] <libtech> thanks
[03:51] <[R]> eka: step 1 turn off the computer, step 2 plug in the card step 3 turn it back on
[03:51] <isamar> ladislaio: lemme try that
[03:51] <DasEi> eka: you're not lost (least by now ;-)), did you set the card in the box ?
[03:51] <TwoToneSpirit> oldude67, manbreadj: If dpkg --configure -a wasn't giving an output before, I don't think it will now.  I agree with fccf apt-get clean and then apt-get -f install
[03:51] <isamar> ladislaio: do you know how to build a custom install CD?
[03:51] <adhil> hi there, how to convert a video into mov in ubuntu 9.04?
[03:51] <revfeuerfrei> well thanks anyways
[03:51] <Pluxii> heh no one?
[03:51] <[R]> adhil: ffmpeg should work
[03:51] <oldude67> TwoToneSpirit, fccf ok that works for me too.
[03:51] <TwoToneSpirit> manbreadj: Also, you can try deborphan (sudo apt-get install deborphan) - this is a tiny program that will identify unused packages
[03:51] <DasEi> !remaster | isamar
[03:52] <ladislaio> isamar, oh.  hmmm.  no, i have not used the ubuntu tools for a custom cd.  good luck
[03:52] <manbreadj> get-apt clean offers no response
[03:52] <adhil> [R] am getting an error output stream not supported
[03:52] <isamar> ladislaio: thanks anyway
[03:52] <fccf> manbreadj: try sudo apt-get clean
[03:52] <eka> DasEi: i have got a usb drive like device in the pack with dome wires
[03:52] <[R]> adhil: sounds like you aren't using it correctly and/or you're missing some kind of ffmpeg codec/plugin
[03:52] <sleepster> is there a way I could use a tickless kernel using ubuntu server?  meaning, I would like to set my kernel to CONFIG_HZ = 1000, instead of default CONFIG_HZ = 100 for ubuntu server
[03:53] <DasEi> eka: so plug it then
[03:53] <[R]> sleepster: you can compile your own
[03:53] <aotianlong> hi
[03:53] <manbreadj> no response
[03:53] <sleepster> [R]: but then it won't be supported huh?
[03:53] <DasEi> eka: open a terminal
[03:53] <manbreadj> fccf: no response
[03:53] <sleepster> [R]: and then each time a kernel update occurs, it will try to overwrite my old one
[03:53] <oldude67> manbreadj, are you doing apt-get or get-apt?
[03:53] <b-f> Does Ubuntu support FID/VID, whatever the hell it is, on AMD Processors such as Athlon x64 X2 processors?
[03:53] <[R]> sleepster: no... it wouldn't touch yours
[03:53] <manbreadj> apt-get
[03:53] <DasEi> eka: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:53] <oldude67> manbreadj, ok
[03:54] <aotianlong> is powernowd didno't support E5300?
[03:54] <[R]> sleepster: but if you install the update it'll most likely switch your grub to boot the new one
[03:54] <DasEi> eka: lsusb | pastebinit
[03:54] <[R]> b-f: you don't even know what it is?
[03:54] <lasehopesinyouu> what r the best widgets
[03:54] <sleepster> [R]: oh .. nice..
[03:54] <DasEi> eka: give url here
[03:54] <fccf> manbreadj: you are typing into a terminal? yes?
[03:54] <dryfyre> hey how do you burn a live cd from your system
[03:54] <manbreadj> yes in terminal
[03:54] <fccf> dryfyre: right click on the .iso and click burn to disk
[03:54] <Scunizi> dryfyre: from and ubuntu system or windowns?
[03:55] <Guest85959> Hello
[03:55] <DasEi> !remaster > dryfyre
[03:55] <ladislaio> !remaster |  dryfyre
[03:55] <dryfyre> ubuntu
[03:55] <manbreadj> the prompt says lucas@lucas:~$
[03:55] <eka> DaSei:http://pastebin.com/f4b786244
[03:55] <dryfyre> i dont want to use the internet
[03:55] <Scunizi> dryfyre: you can do what fccf said or install k3b the much preferred burner app and do it from there.
[03:55] <DasEi> !clone | dryfyre
[03:55] <Saiint> Hello
[03:55] <dryfyre> thn
[03:55] <fccf> manbreadj: not sure what is going on at this point
[03:55] <dryfyre> thnx
[03:55] <Scunizi> DasEi: he's just trying to burn an iso
[03:56] <Saiint> I have a question about flux for ubuntu
[03:56] <Schizoid>   /win 3
[03:56] <b-f> [R]: something to do with throttling to prevent overheating in laptop processors, but it is not apparrently suported officially by linux.
[03:56] <Saiint> when i go in flux on my ubuntu box
[03:56] <panfistmx> what program should i use to split a video file into several other files (preferably losslessly)
[03:56] <eka> DaSei: http://pastebin.com/f4b786244
[03:56] <Saiint> it doesnt open programs sometimes!
[03:56] <bruenig> panfistmx: avisplit
[03:56] <Saiint> does anyone know why that it?
[03:56] <lasehopesinyouu> what r the best widgets
[03:56] <lasehopesinyouu> what r the best widgets
[03:56] <bruenig> panfistmx: from mplayer
[03:56] <aaronorosen> Hello, I have a friend who is trying to install ubuntu on his computer but when he runs sudo fdisk -l nothing comes up and gparted isn't seen his drives either. But his drivers are working because he can still boot to windows. Any ideas here I'm at a lose.
[03:56] <Saiint> I have a question about flux for ubuntu
[03:56] <Saiint> when i go in flux on my ubuntu box
[03:56] <[R]> b-f: well if linux doesnt support it and you already know that...
[03:56] <queso> I modified my usplash.conf to increase the resolution of the splash graphic when loading, which works, but now when I shut down the "down splash" graphic is messed up.  Is there a .conf file to configure what happens when the system shuts down?
[03:56] <Saiint> it doesnt open programs sometimes!
[03:56] <fccf> !enter | Saiint
[03:57] <Scunizi> panfistmx: handbreak.fr is one of the best video manipulation programs out there.. not sure if it will actually break an existing video or not but is a great dvd burning prog.
[03:57] <b-f> [R], what I mean is, it is suported by Vista, and seems that people have problems with it not throttling in antyhting other than Vista
[03:57] <adhil> [R] i used with -i option and i think i dont have the plugin
[03:57] <bruenig> Scunizi: nah
[03:58] <Saiint> I Have a question about Fluxbox on ubuntu. When i use flux on my ubuntu box it doesnt open programs sometimes! Does anyone know why?
[03:58] <Scunizi> bruenig: nah? it won't break it?
[03:58] <DasEi> eka: so it's a haupage, back to terminal
[03:58] <lasehopesinyouu> what r the best widgets for the desktop
[03:58] <Pluxii> hey, as some of you know i'm ubuntuly challenged.... i did find the help site at the ubuntu help sites, but honestly, it's still over my head i think, i'd hate to get the wrong terminal things going and end up messing everything up, please, feel free to PM me since it's probably going to be a long explanation, the help site i found is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock
[03:58] <eka> DasEi: its haupage yes
[03:58] <karategeek6> I'm having a wireless problem.  It isn't showing up when I do a lspci, though as of this morning everything was working perfectly.  Anybody have any ideas?
[03:58] <[R]> b-f: ok... and?
[03:58] <bruenig> Scunizi: handbreak is not that great
[03:58] <DasEi> eka: sudo apt-get install tvtime ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:58] <mattgyver> Is there a log file that shows files created or deleted by specific users?
[03:58] <panfistmx> scunizi i'm exploring handbrake right now but i'm not really confident it splits files yet...i'm going over the documentation but they mention repeatedly that handbrake has a very specific set of goals to transcode video from nearly any format to a more modern format...i dont know for sure one way or the other yet
[03:59] <m0r0n> I need help trying to install my printer (Pixima MP750) I tried what I saw on the fourms but that didn't work
[03:59] <[R]> adhil: well look if there are any other packages with ffmpeg in the name that might be codecs or plugins
[03:59] <DasEi> !wireless | karategeek6
[03:59] <twig11> How do I start ndiswrapper to get my usb wireless card working? I've already installed the drivers.
[03:59] <b-f> [r], so what happens is that you get 2.4 ghz processors running at 2.4 ghz all the time, instead of slowing down when not needed, and then you get 80C core temps.
[04:00] <fccf> panfistmx: have you explored gopchop
[04:00] <fccf> !info | gopchop
[04:00] <[R]> b-f: ok... but if you already know its not supported...
[04:00] <fccf> ubottu is wrong
[04:00] <m0r0n> Anyone know how to install a printer?
[04:01] <DasEi> eka: when installed, just launch tvtime
[04:01] <panfistmx> fccf i will check it out now
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  for mine.. i just plug them in... no need for me to even do anything...
[04:01] <b-f> Thing is, [R], I was wondering if anyone knew of a solution.
[04:01] <bazhang> fccf, dont use pipe; its !info gopchop
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  canon pixima 6600 and a hp laserjet 6l
[04:01] <[R]> m0r0n: system -> administartion -> printing
[04:01] <[R]> b-f: you just said you kow its not supported...
[04:01] <fccf> panfistmx:  It is either in medibuntu or debianmultimedia ... I don't know which
[04:01] <[R]> b-f: how is there a solutin if its not supported
[04:02] <m0r0n> Dr_Willis: I try, I clicked on XSane thing to scan and it said no device found
[04:02] <bazhang> fccf, its in the ubuntu repos
[04:02] <zopiac> in my sound preferences i cannot select my mic for sound capture, but in the drop-down box at the bottom it shows it...does anyone know how to fix?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  a scanner is not a printer......
[04:02] <DasEi> b-f: you can generally underclock to save enery (n heat)
[04:02] <fccf> !info gopchop
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  even if they are the same 'gizmo' they are 2 seperate devices.
[04:02] <lasehopesinyouu> how do i rotate the screens in a cube
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !sane | m0r0n
[04:03] <fccf> !compiz
[04:03] <m0r0n> [R]:  I don't see System>Admin>Printer I can get as far as admin but I cannot locate printer
[04:03] <lasehopesinyouu> coompiz config settings manager
[04:03] <lasehopesinyouu> ok
[04:03] <vavoysh> Hi there. I'm having a bit of trouble installing graphic and sound drivers. My trouble lies in the fact that when i try to install the ATI raedon x550 driver, and i use ]sudo sh ./at-driver-9-3-x86.x86_64.run[ it gives me ]Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version[. With the sound driver, i can't figure out what my sound card is
[04:03] <[R]> m0r0n: what versino of ubuntu are you using
[04:04] <DasEi> eka:working now ?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> vavoysh: What is wrong with the packaged fglrx?
[04:04] <adhil> [R] there is nothing like that there is only ffmpeg             ffmpeg-dbg         ffmpegthumbnailer
[04:04] <adhil> ffmpeg2theora      ffmpeg-doc
[04:04] <m0r0n> 9.0.4
[04:04] <m0r0n> Whatever is the newest
[04:04] <[R]> adhil: then either you are donig it wrong or the one in ubuntu doesnt support it
[04:04] <karategeek6> DasEi: Thank you, but i've already been there.  The main problem I'm having is that my wireless card isn't listed under lspci, which didn't start until today.
[04:04] <eka> DasEi:i am in india what television standard do i select?
[04:04] <[R]> m0r0n: well dunno what kind of crazy stuff you did to your system to remove that entry
[04:05] <Jordan_U> karategeek6: Are you sure it's not a hardware problem?
[04:05] <vavoysh> Jordan_U: this is the full error i get. ./default_policy.sh does not support version. default:v2:i686:lb::none:2.6.28-13-generic; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  you are logged in as your first initial user? I recall once befor that other users may not have all the 'sudo' rights and donthave all the menu items.
[04:05] <m0r0n> Bah. I guess I took it off when I was trying to get rid of Gnome flash player
[04:05] <m0r0n> I am the one and only user
[04:05] <Jordan_U> vavoysh: Why aren't you just using System > Administration > Harware Drivers?
[04:05] <DasEi> eka:lol, good question, mahatmani ? try pal, then secam
[04:06] <owen1> my machine is mute on every boot. someone advice to run: 'sudo alsactl store' but i get E-core/util.c: home directory /home/yuka not ours.  any clues?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  somthing is weird then - you should have that icon. it launches the command --->   system-config-printer
[04:06] <karategeek6> Jordan_U: not entirely.  It is possible that the card failed.  Is there a way I can check if the problem is hardware?
[04:06] <vavoysh> Jordan_U: because nothing comes up when i do so.
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  try runningit from a terminal.. but  you said you had scanner issues...
[04:06] <zopiac> how do i dim my screen?
[04:06] <m0r0n> Ya, when I tell it to print it prints
[04:07] <m0r0n> But scanning doesn't work
[04:07] <Saiint> I Have a question about Fluxbox on ubuntu. When i use flux on my ubuntu box it doesnt open programs sometimes! Does anyone know why?
[04:07] <m0r0n> It is an all-in-one unit
[04:07] <DasEi> eka:I googled it, pal bg it said
[04:07] <Jordan_U> karategeek6: If it worked with the Ubuntu liveCD once, but doesn't now it's probably hardware. Just the fact that it doesn't show up in lspci indicates it's probably hardware
[04:07] <Scunizi> m0r0n: is it a brother?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  then it has nothing todo with 'printing' then  - you need to check teh scanner docs/configs
[04:07] <m0r0n> Scunizi: I have no clue what you're talking
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> !sane | m0r0n
[04:08] <Scunizi> m0r0n: what's the brand name of the printer/scanner?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> m0r0n:  its possible its an unsupported scaner depending onthe brand
[04:08] <Saiint> I Have a question about Fluxbox on ubuntu. When i use flux on my ubuntu box it doesnt open programs sometimes! Does anyone know why?
[04:08] <eka> DasEi: i used pal ,i launched tvtime
[04:08] <DasEi> !repeat | Saiint
[04:08] <Saiint> lol
[04:08] <m0r0n> Scunizi: Cannon Pixima MP750      Dr_Willis: It worked before, I think I touched something and screwed it up
[04:08] <aaronorosen> Saiint: yea that doesn't make any sense
[04:09] <Saiint> aaronorosen: how so?
[04:09] <DasEi> eka : if tvtime found the haupage, it's just a short way of trial and error to get it working
[04:09] <Scunizi> m0r0n: you can try starting xsane from terminal with sudo .. ie... sudo xsane .. this is a common theme with scanners and xsane for some reason..
[04:09] <Brando753> what is a good file encryption that is hard to crack
[04:10] <b-f> Saiint: if you're trying to launch programs that depend on things in a running GNOME or KDE session, that might be your probplem. You also might not be clickimg correctly.
[04:10] <DasEi> Brando753: truecrypt
[04:10] <eka> DasEi: i am getting like no signal
[04:10] <m0r0n> Scunizi:  Same thing when I click the icon
[04:10] <Scunizi> m0r0n: Icon?  the xsane icon in the menu's?
[04:11] <Saiint> b-f: im installed fluxbox on my system and select it as a session. But when i right click and open programs they dont work sometimes.
[04:11] <Saiint> :/
[04:11] <b-f> Which programs?
[04:11] <chris_lenz123> do any of you know anything about capture card?
[04:11] <eka> DasEi: how can i know whether tvtime found hapauge or not?
[04:12] <Saiint> b-f: terminal. and some other ones. Like sometimes terminal will open, and other times it wont :S
[04:12] <m0r0n> Scunizi: Applications>Graphics>XSane Image scanning program
[04:12] <b-f> O.o
[04:12] <vavoysh> Jordan_U: did you hear what i last said?
[04:12] <Saiint> excatly..
[04:12] <Jordan_U> vavoysh: Yes
[04:12] <DasEi> eka: else it would complain, also (I don't use it, a second, can install) there's a tab to choose device
[04:12] <Dragonfly6-7> does anyone here know Matthew "Mtemar" Temar, aka Matt_vu ?
[04:12] <Scunizi> m0r0n: that's not what I asked you to test.. go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal and in the box that opens type .. sudo xsane
[04:12] <m0r0n> I did
[04:12] <zopiac> is it possible to emulate a right click without a right mouse button?
[04:12] <m0r0n> It opened
[04:12]  * b-f bids goodnight
[04:13] <m0r0n> and said the same thing
[04:13] <karategeek6> Jordan_U: as it turns out, my hp pavillion model has a reputation for dying wireless cards
[04:13] <Scunizi> m0r0n: ok.. just a thought.. I have to use my Brother all in one that way for some reason.. good luck
[04:13] <vavoysh> Jordan_U: any idea of how to fix it?
[04:13] <Guest95130> how can install a firefox this ubuntu
[04:13] <fabio> sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:14] <Guest95130> i'll do that
[04:14] <eka> DasEi:no such file or directory cannot open capture device /dev/video0........... this is the msg
[04:14] <Guest95130> i know it stil the same thingg
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Guest95130:  Huh?
[04:15] <Saiint> Guest95130: cant speky engrish
[04:16] <DasEi> eka : sudo apt-get install usbutils
[04:16] <Guest95130> what cani do
[04:16] <ctmjr> Saiint, we are not here to make fun of people
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest95130:  clarify the actual  question. We are not sure what you are asking.
[04:17] <DasEi> eka : then leave the usb in, reload hal /dbus (will log you off), after that command resume normal boot : sudo init 1
[04:17] <nsahoo> our school network has access to some online subscriptions. they authenticate by ip. How do I obtain a school network ip from home? I used to use a putty ssh tunnel when I was using windows. I guess I can do the same using ubuntu at home as well. The other approach is probably installing a proxy on school computer and pointing my browser at home to that proxy. Any better solution than these?
[04:18] <Pici> nsahoo: speak to your school's network administrator
[04:18] <brodymcd1> is there someone who could help me - I'm having trouble connecting evolution to ms echange
[04:18] <eka> DasEi: Reading package lists... Done
[04:18] <eka> Building dependency tree
[04:18] <eka> Reading state information... Done
[04:18] <eka> usbutils is already the newest version.
[04:18] <eka> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[04:18] <FloodBot2> eka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <eka>   python2.5 libcurl3 python2.5-minimal
[04:19] <DasEi> eka : then leave the usb in, reload hal /dbus (will log you off), after that command resume normal boot : sudo init 1
[04:19] <nsahoo> Pici: they'll recommend that I use a windows machine and install cisco-vpn on it
[04:20] <eka> FloodBot2 :ok
[04:20] <iceblock> whats the name of arnies movie where he had to go on a game show?
[04:20] <Pici> !ot | iceblock
[04:20] <Jordan_U> nsahoo: network-manager supports cisco-vpns
[04:20] <eka> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <vavoysh> Jordan_U: any idea of how to fix it?
[04:20] <DasEi> nsahoo: you can have putty on ubu, too
[04:20] <iceblock> its linux related
[04:21] <DasEi> !info putty | nsahoo
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> iceblock:  no its not .. and it was runnign man.
[04:21] <Pici> iceblock: No its not, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <iceblock> cause the distro on the terminal in the movie was redhat
[04:21] <Pici> nsahoo: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-connect-to-a-cisco-vpn-using-vpnc
[04:21] <Pici> iceblock: This is #ubuntu
[04:21] <iceblock> ok sorry
[04:21] <Jordan_U> nsahoo: If you install network-manager-vpnc you can connect to cisco vpns with network-manager easily
[04:22] <iceblock> question: how come my 4870X2 dosent work in ubuntu9.04?
[04:22] <iceblock> even when i install 9.6cats
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> iceblock:  i wonder if anyone in here even knows what an 4870x2 is
[04:22] <nsahoo> Jordan_U: DasEi: Pici: thanks. is there a ssh tunnel manager somewhere?
[04:22] <iceblock> geez
[04:23] <twig11> Will a resident Wireless Guru please take a look at this and see if you can help me get my wireless up? http://pastebin.com/d6bb9b0cd
[04:23] <eka> DasEi: how to reload hal/dbus ?
[04:23] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone does anyone know how to change the keyboard layout that is used on the gnome login screen? I was using a dvorak keyboard and switched it back to the qwerty layout which is the default on everything except for when I login and when I press Alt+<function key> to get to a virtual terminal
[04:23] <twig11> It should be self- explanatory
[04:23] <adam7> iceblock: http://lukasz.dk/2009/03/17/ubuntu-810-and-ati-dual-head/ <-- have you seen that?
[04:23] <ctmjr> eka, you have a usb tv tuner card you are trying to get to work in ubuntu?
[04:24] <DasEi> nsahoo: read above , search synaptic for ssh
[04:24] <vavoysh> Can anyone help me install my graphics/sound drivers? system->administration->hardware drivers comes up with nothing.
[04:24] <DasEi> !sound | vavoysh
[04:25] <eka> ctmjr: i have hp usb tv tuner card am trying make it work in ubuntu 9.04
[04:25] <vavoysh> and for graphics?
[04:25] <DasEi>  vavoysh : trhen hardwarethingy mainly operates for graphics
[04:25] <twig11> Wireless Help Needed Desperately! Here is what I've been doing http://pastebin.com/d6bb9b0cd and here are the directions I'm trying to follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper)
[04:25] <vavoysh> DasEi: but nothing comes up when i use the hardware thing, and the manual install doesn't work
[04:26] <DasEi>  vavoysh : lspci | grep audio              > your sound
[04:26] <shane2peru> twig11: it seems to me that your wireless card is recognized, if you can get wicd installed, that is a little easier to manage your connections
[04:26] <ctmjr> eka, unplug it wait a minute then plug it back in then run this in a terminal dmesg | tail
[04:26] <DasEi>  vavoysh : lspci | grep video  (or grahics or display)
[04:27] <DasEi>  vavoysh : hwinfo gives even more detailed specs
[04:27] <shane2peru> twig11: wicd is in the repos
[04:27] <vavoysh> what do i do with this info?
[04:27] <DasEi> !who | vavoysh
[04:28] <DasEi>  vavoysh : put (not more then two lines) in channel
[04:28] <Jordan_U> twig11: Can you run "iwevent" then try to connect via network-manager then pastebin the output?
[04:29] <Saboot> Anyway to view an open window on a remote computer WITHOUT vnc-server?
[04:29] <Saboot> a terminal window
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Saboot: ssh
[04:29] <Strider> I'm trying to use skype in 9.04. I have my headset configured correctly and it works fine with sound recorder. However, whenever I start a phone call in skype the 'capture' volume automatically drops to a inaudible level.
[04:29] <Strider> Any ideas what is going on?
[04:29] <DasEi> saboot : ssh can forward x
[04:29] <ufo> hello do there any working howto to configure evolution with hotmail on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[04:30] <Saboot> I know ssh -X, can you open a window already open on that remote computer?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> Saboot: No
[04:30] <Saboot> that's my question
[04:30] <adhil> does any one know how to ffmpeg with libx264 enabled?
[04:30] <eka> ctmjr : [   27.032687] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[04:30] <eka> [   38.016076] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[04:30] <eka> [   78.028861] NET: Registered protocol family 24
[04:30] <eka> [  387.388289] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 15000 nsec
[04:30] <eka> [ 1027.392288] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 22500 nsec
[04:30] <FloodBot2> eka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <eka> [ 7125.185302] usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[04:30] <vavoysh> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m9c78355
[04:30] <DasEi> eka : state of art ?
[04:30] <shane2peru> adhil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[04:31] <Jordan_U> Saboot: Why do you want to do it? ( there may be another way to get what you want )
[04:31] <DasEi> eka : you did the init 1 ?
[04:32] <Saboot> Jordan_U, I want to see if a program I had running had an error
[04:32] <dryfyre>  i wonder if there is a way that i can get hundreds of ubuntu cds and start a campaign against windows and mac
[04:32] <iceblock> its Running Man <---cool movie
[04:33] <Saboot> Retrospectively I should have used screen, but oh well
[04:33] <RiverRat> Pardon the cloak but I do have a few Ubuntu questions if you don't mind.  I have the new netbook thing running on an Acer Aspire one and something blew out in Gnome so that when you log in it doesn't start gnome-wm or gnome-panel and they have to be started by hand.  Any ideas why or what file I need to add those commands into to get them back to auto starting?
[04:33] <OB1FoShoB> if i wanted to start developing open-source apps for linux, what language would i want to learn? C?
[04:33] <Pidgin_> is it possible to be here in irc with gyachi ?
[04:33] <Strider> No one knows what is wrong with alsa?
[04:33] <vavoysh> DasEi: have to brb
[04:33] <Jordan_U> Saboot: What program?
[04:33] <RiverRat> OB1FoShoB: C isn't a good choice for a first language
[04:33] <adhil> shane2peru in that it is telling to install from git.. how to do that
[04:33] <Saboot> just a python script I had running in a terminal
[04:34] <eka> DasEi : i did use init 1
[04:34] <Jordan_U> OB1FoShoB: As a start I would say python, but most languages used on other platforms are used with linux
[04:34] <bastidrazor> Saboot, if in the future you use 'screen' you'll be able to connect to that terminal window from anywhere
[04:34] <shane2peru> adhil: right, that will enable x264
[04:34] <OB1FoShoB> RiverRat i did some gwbasic/basic/visual basic
[04:34] <Saboot> bastid_razor, Yes I just admitted that fact :p
[04:35] <Pidgin_> is it possible to be here with Gyachi Improved ?
[04:35] <OB1FoShoB> RiverRat i mostly do html, but i'm a quick learner
[04:35] <RiverRat> Huge change to get to C.  You can if you are determined enough though.
[04:35] <Saboot> I started with C, its not as hard as people say it is
[04:35] <bastidrazor> Saboot, i missed that comment.. it seems great minds think a like
[04:35] <Pidgin_> Is Gyache a irc client ?
[04:35] <OB1FoShoB> RiverRat what would be a good place to start as a beginner?
[04:35] <Saboot> Python is good as an easier beginner language
[04:35] <adhil> shane2peru ok let me try. thankyou
[04:36] <RiverRat> OB1FoShoB: I've heard good things about Python but I don't code it in myself.  All the new people in school are learning it though.
[04:36] <OB1FoShoB> Saboot i
[04:36] <Strider> I'm trying to use skype in 9.04. I have my headset configured correctly and it works fine with sound recorder. However, whenever I start a phone call in skype the 'capture' volume automatically drops to a inaudible level.
[04:36] <twig11> shane2peru: I actually had the wireless running using the command line, and I installed wicd but it always froze and crashed on startup so it didn't help me much, but from that point iwconfig wouldn't remember my essid so I was stuck. I finally reinstalled Jaunty and I seem to be having the same problem again.
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Saboot: Looking quickly there is a chance ttysnoop will work
[04:36] <shane2peru> adhil: no prob
[04:36] <OB1FoShoB> Saboot i always thought python was for web stuff
[04:36] <Saboot> its not
[04:36] <jake_> hey
[04:36] <Saboot> I do physics with it <_<
[04:36] <shane2peru> twig11: hmm, that doesn't sound good, not sure about that.
[04:36] <eka> DasEi: still same msg "no signal"
[04:36] <twig11> Jordan_U: I'll try your suggestion
[04:36] <Saboot> Jordan_U, will look into it, thanks
[04:37] <RiverRat> OB1FoShoB: Gentoo's package manager is written in python.
[04:37] <adam7> twig11: does your wireless card work in a different operating system? for instance, windows xp?
[04:37] <OB1FoShoB> Saboot so if i went python, what would be a good ide and possibly a good source to read up on?
[04:37] <Jordan_U> Saboot: Looks like it needs to be setup first though
[04:37] <adam7> OB1FoShoB: http://python.org
[04:37] <twig11> adam7: yes it was working fine on xp
[04:37] <lasehopesinyouu> i was wondering if it was possible to switch screens using the mouse
[04:37] <Saboot> OB1FoShoB, just use notepad, or the ide it comes with
[04:37] <DasEi> eka: tvtime installed here, so when starting tvtime (just enter in trml), you can choose inputsource
[04:37] <Saboot> as a beginner IDEs arent important
[04:38] <OB1FoShoB> Saboot ty
[04:38] <adam7> twig11: do you still have XP?
[04:38] <lasehopesinyouu> i was wondering if it was possible to switch screens using the mouse
[04:38] <Saboot> I started with C and notepad, worked for me
[04:38] <jdoghacker> hey does if any one is looking for security experts to look into a online system let me know
[04:38] <RiverRat> I have the new netbook thing running on an Acer Aspire one and something blew out in Gnome so that when you log in it doesn't start gnome-wm or gnome-panel and they have to be started by hand.  Any ideas why or what file I need to add those commands into to get them back to auto starting?
[04:39] <OB1FoShoB> thanks all for help
[04:39] <jdoghacker>  hey does if any one is looking for security experts to look into a online system let me know
[04:39] <adam7> jdoghacker: your question makes no sense
[04:39] <DasEi> jdoghacker: join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:40] <Strider> I'm trying to use skype in 9.04. I have my headset configured correctly and it works fine with sound recorder. However, whenever I start a phone call in skype the 'capture' volume automatically drops to a inaudible level.
[04:40] <twig11> adam7: not on any of my machines. Someone else gave me this card and I know it was working for them on xp. They just pulled the plug and handed it to me. Furthermore, I had it running briefly a couple days ago on this machine with Jaunty
[04:40] <bastidrazor> !startup | RiverRat
[04:40] <eka> DasEi: the output is Running tvtime 1.0.2.
[04:40] <eka> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[04:40] <eka> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/koti/.tvtime/tvtime.xml"
[04:40] <eka> I/O error : Permission denied
[04:40] <eka> I/O error : Permission denied
[04:40] <FloodBot2> eka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <RiverRat> Thanks guys
[04:40] <adam7> twig11: Try install Wicd again; I can give you a hand with getting that to not freeze
[04:41] <Nameless_au> how can i see ubottu's triggers?
[04:41] <prince_jammys> !factoids | Nameless_au
[04:41] <DasEi> eka: does tvtime start or not ?
[04:41] <shane2peru> !wicd
[04:41] <Nameless_au> tnx
[04:41] <click> is this the help channel?
[04:41] <adam7> click: yep, ask away
[04:41] <prince_jammys> click: yessir/m'am
[04:41] <twig11> adam7: no good: I don't have a wired connection in this building so I can't get online with that machine unless the wireless works
[04:41] <lstarnes> click: for ubuntu help, yes
[04:42] <click> does anyone have any experience installing steam in wine in ubuntu?
[04:42] <eka> DasEi : it started... but the msg is same canot open capture device /dev/video)
[04:42] <prince_jammys> click: your best bet is to describe what you did and what went wrong. also check the channel #winehq
[04:42] <Nameless_au> !wireless
[04:42] <ctmjr> DasEi, eka the v4l modules are not getting loaded the card is either not supported by linux or the drivers are not installed eka you need to find the make and model of your card and see if it supported
[04:42] <twig11> Jordan_U: Here's my output from iwevent http://pastebin.com/m4e0ac710
[04:43] <eka> how to paste content here
[04:43] <click> prince_jammys, ok
[04:43] <ctmjr> !paste | eka
[04:43] <prince_jammys> click: i'd try at #winehq first, then here.
[04:43] <Nameless_au> !ntfs
[04:43] <eka> ctmjr: you r right i am using hp tv tuner card in lenovo laptop is that a problem
[04:44] <bastidrazor> !msgthebot | Nameless_au
[04:44] <click> prince_jammys, is there a special chat function like "connect:#winehq" Just curious
[04:44] <prince_jammys> click: /join #winehq
[04:44] <Nameless_au> !NTFS-3g
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Saboot: screendump looks more promising
[04:44] <click> prince_jammys, thanks
[04:44] <twig11> Jordan_U: You still on?
[04:44] <prince_jammys> click: or /j for short
[04:44] <Jordan_U> twig11: Yes
[04:44] <twig11> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m4e0ac710
[04:44] <Strider> I'm trying to use skype in 9.04. I have my headset configured correctly and it works fine with sound recorder. However, whenever I start a phone call in skype the 'capture' volume automatically drops to a inaudible level.
[04:45] <Jordan_U> twig11: Did you actully try to connect to a specific network?
[04:45] <manbreadj> ya don't say, eh?
[04:45] <twig11> Jordan_U: Definitely
[04:46] <ctmjr> eka, hold on a sec will google it for you
[04:46] <adam7> twig11: do you have network-manager installed?
[04:46] <twig11> adam7: that's where the pastebin output I linked to came from.
[04:46] <eka> cjtmr : thankyou i will wait
[04:47] <adam7> twig11: which one?
[04:47] <twig11> adam7: http://pastebin.com/m4e0ac710
[04:47] <adam7> twig11: that didn't come from network-manager; it came from iwevent
[04:48] <twig11> adam7: right. iwevent produced that output when I selected a network that was visible in network manager. And I know the network is working because that's how I'm connected on the laptop I'm talking to you on.
[04:49] <adam7> twig11: you're using ndiswrapper?
[04:49] <ctmjr> eka, is this your card http://www.hauppauge.com/html/usb_data.htm
[04:49] <twig11> adam7: yes
[04:49] <DasEi> ctmjr: aah
[04:49] <vavoysh> DasEi: sorry about that
[04:50] <ecret> I have scripts that I want to be able to run as if they were in /bin.  I set the $path=$path:/other/path              but when I try to run the scripts , I cannot access them from every directory as I had hoped to.
[04:50] <DasEi>  vavoysh : lspci | grep audio
[04:50] <adam7> twig11: ndiswrapper, is, at best, a really bad way to get wireless cards working; I noticed your card isn't supported by a Linux driver, so that's probably your best bet, but you should consider getting a better-supported wireless card -- you can pick one up for about US$20
[04:50] <prince_jammys> ecret: the variable is PATH, all caps. set it in your .profile
[04:51] <eka> ctmjr:happauge is my card
[04:51] <vavoysh> DasEi: i posted them in a pastebin before
[04:51] <vavoysh> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m9c78355
[04:51] <rww> ecret: there shouldn't be a $ before the first PATH in your command.
[04:51] <prince_jammys> that too.
[04:51] <RiverRat> Thanks bastidrazor, worked like a charm.
[04:51] <bastidrazor> RiverRat, good deal.
[04:52] <http> http://pastebin.com/d4a8e3d68
[04:52] <ecret> sorry I meant to say PATH.  On the left part.  I have            export PATH=$PATH:/other/path
[04:52] <prince_jammys> ecret: where do you have that?
[04:52] <EEoar> Hi- mounting question..... if I'm adding a secondary disk to a server (and logging in as a "user") how do I give every user r/w access to the mounted disk?
[04:52] <EEoar> is there a wiki for that somewhere/
[04:52] <ecret> prince_jammys: i type it each time. I just need it sometimes.
[04:52] <adam7> EEoar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <EEoar> adam7: Yea, thanks... that's specific
[04:52] <rww> ecret: what filesystem format are you using on the mounted disc?
[04:52] <ctmjr> eka, they make lots of cards some work some don't you need to find the one you have or anything we try is not going to work
[04:53] <prince_jammys> ecret: if you don't mind always having /other/path in your PATH, put that in your ~/.profile
[04:53] <adam7> EEoar: it answers your question; you asked if there is a wiki somewhere.
[04:53] <adam7> !enter > EEoar
[04:53] <rww> adam7: 1) wiki.ubuntu.com is for Ubuntu teams, and is not a documentation source. 2) Don't be unhelpful, please.
[04:53] <bastidrazor> EEoar, the mountpoint should be rwx for everyone .. chmod 777 /mountpoint
[04:53] <adam7> EEoar: sorry, missed the first line
[04:53] <ecret> rww: default ubuntu
[04:53] <prince_jammys> ecret: otherwise it will only be in your PATH in shells that are children of the one where you typed it.
[04:53] <adam7> rww: he put a line break in his question, I missed teh first part, my fault
[04:53] <EEoar> that helps more, thanks... I'll try that
[04:53] <DasEi>  vavoysh : k, so an onbaord and a sounblaster, which you want use
[04:53] <rww> ecret: sorry, I tabcompleted incorrectly. ignore that.
[04:54] <twig11> adam7: I know it CAN work, though, because I did have it running. doesn't it seem like I should be able to set it up via the command line? Is there something simple I don't know, such as having the device plugged in/not plugged in during certain steps of the configuration? The directions I followed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper) didn't make that very clear.
[04:54] <rww> EEoar: what filesystem format are you using on the mounted disc?
[04:54] <vavoysh> DasEi: i believe htat i've always been using the soundblaster
[04:54] <adam7> EEoar: /etc/fstab and then you can chmod the mount point I think
[04:54] <StrangeCharm_> is there a command-line app that gives a snapshot of the system status?
[04:54] <DasEi>  vavoysh :sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[04:54] <ecret> prince_jammys: yes.  I will add to profile but right now I see it when I echo $PATH.  Should I be able to ./shellscript or sh shellscript from any folder?
[04:55] <babyju> Hello folks....I have a creative zen mp3 player....I am having a hard time finding a manger that handles sync of video/video podcasts. Anyone have any suggestions? Rythmbox does not appear to do video. The creative zen is recognized by Rythmbox.
[04:55] <vavoysh> DasEi: ok, installing
[04:55] <prince_jammys> ecret: once its in your PATH, you simply type 'shellscript' from anywhere
[04:55] <vavoysh> DasEi: ok, installed
[04:55] <DasEi>  vavoysh :alsamixergui
[04:55] <EEoar> rww: ext3
[04:55] <TimReichhart> hey guys can somebody point me the correct way to setup a streaming media server like for tv? and I want to use ubuntu for OS
[04:55] <rww> ecret: no, you should be able to     shellscript    from any folder, assuming the script file hasexecute permissions (chmod u+x /path/to/file)
[04:55] <twig11> Are these directions up-to-date or is there something important that has changed since they were written? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper)
[04:55] <prince_jammys> ecret: provided your scripts have shebangs (eg #!/bin/bash), which they should.
[04:55] <EEoar> adam7: I have it in /etc/fstab (I wish there was a disk utility like there is in WIndows (please don't shoot me) )
[04:55] <rww> EEoar: mount the disk and do sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/mountpoint
[04:55] <DasEi>  vavoysh :does it show your s-card in the upper right corner ?
[04:55] <DasEi> does*
[04:56] <EEoar> rww: Yea, just got that done, thx  -- shouldn't it show up in the "Nautilus" tool now?
[04:56] <RiverRat> Is there anyway to have hibernate wake up with the screen locked?
[04:56] <adam7> EEoar: what is the mount point?
[04:56] <eka> cjtmr:wintv-usb2-stick tv reciever stick happauge............ this is what is there as its name
[04:56] <vavoysh> DasEi: the top row says "Card: PulseAudio" and "Chip: PulseAudio"
[04:56] <EEoar> it's mounted as "/Disk1"
[04:57] <twig11> What's the correct way to quit iwevent?
[04:57] <adam7> EEoar: sudo chmod 777 /Disk1
[04:57] <adam7> twig11: ctrl+c
[04:57] <DasEi>  vavoysh :you need alsa, and the sb for that
[04:57] <twig11> adam7: thanks
[04:57] <adam7> EEoar: that will give *everyone* r/w and execute privs on that disk
[04:57] <vavoysh> DasEi: how do i get them
[04:57] <adam7> EEoar: or at least in the root dir
[04:57] <eka> once i get the url from pastebin what should i do?
[04:57] <jawnv6> is there a way to move windows up above the upper bar? I've screwed up my graphics, running at a low resolution, and now I can't see the buttons to fix it
[04:57] <EEoar> I didn't do 777 (I chown'd and chmod'd it to my user)
[04:57] <DasEi> !sound | vavoysh
[04:57] <RiverRat> eka: Paste the URL in here
[04:58] <adam7> EEoar: ok... that didn't work?
[04:58] <eka> http://pastebin.com/d4a8e3d68
[04:58] <ecret> rww: They are chmod u+x.  I then cannot run it from any folder.e
[04:58] <PAPI> Hello can anybody help me?
[04:58] <iceblock> crazy how ubuntu  shows my quadcore +HT as 8 seperate cores
[04:58] <adam7> !ask | PAPI
[04:58] <EEoar> no, it did... I didn't think of it just until you guys brought it up (d'oh)
[04:58] <RiverRat> eka: May want to refresh people's mind to the problem
[04:58] <vavoysh> DasEi: there are 2 different Alsa Mixers. which do i select? theres CA0106 and Intel ICH6
[04:58] <Yeehaw_> I had a query with GCC option in Interpid, need some help over there
[04:58] <adam7> EEoar: ok, cool :)
[04:59] <EEoar> I did fdisk, mkfs.ext3 and when it didn't show up in Nautilus I thought I skipped a step somewhere... actually it doesn't show up no yet either
[04:59] <eka> RivertRat : what??
[04:59] <RiverRat> ecret: A mount option is noexec so make sure you don't use it (or fstab doesn't insert it for you)
[04:59] <EEoar> nope, nevermind, there it is
[04:59] <EEoar> w00t
[04:59] <RiverRat> eka: I got the link but I missed the problem.
[04:59] <EEoar> thanks... stupid mistake
[04:59] <Yeehaw_> When I am compiling application I am getting these errors -- "undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'
[04:59] <jawnv6> iceblock, that's how HT is presented to the OS, as separate logical cores
[04:59] <ecret> RiverRat: not sure what that means.
[05:00] <adam7> EEoar: it won't show up in nautilus (AFAIK) unless it is mounted automatically, maybe someone in here knows how to fix that
[05:00] <prince_jammys> i think it means a bad tab completion
[05:00] <PAPI> i can ,t see my windows partition
[05:00] <Yeehaw_> When I googled a bit I found that gcc, 6.1 onwards enables -fstack-protector
[05:00] <gogeta> PAPI: lol cant see?
[05:00] <EEoar> adam7: I added it to /etc/fstab to auto-mount... I got it now
[05:00] <TimReichhart> hey guys can somebody point me the correct way to setup a streaming media server like for tv? and I want to use ubuntu for OS
[05:00] <eka> RivertRat: the problem is i am unable install a happauge tv tuner card on lenovo laptop which has ubuntu 9.04 installed on it
[05:00] <adam7> EEoar: awesome
[05:00] <bastidrazor> !ntfs | PAPI
[05:00] <Yeehaw_> I tried disabling it with -fno-stack-protector/all but no luch
[05:00] <gogeta> PAPI: boot windows if you just installed it needs to run chkdsk
[05:00] <Yeehaw_> can any one help
[05:00] <adam7> twig11: what version of ndiswrapper do you have?
[05:00] <billing> brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:00] <prince_jammys> ecret: you're catching side traffic for other people whose nicks start with 'e' ;)
[05:01] <gogeta> PAPI: when its done boot windows one last time then rebbot into ubuntu
[05:01] <tt> l
[05:01] <tt> join
[05:01] <gogeta> PAPI: it should be visable from now on
[05:01] <EEoar> adam7: Thanks... things worked out in the end, w00t
[05:01] <twig11> adam7: 1.53-2
[05:01] <ecret> prince_jammys: he he .  well im sure theres a .0001% that theire random suggestion is right :)
[05:01] <vavoysh> DasEi: ok, it works. what about my graphics card?
[05:02] <PAPI> i did it but no
[05:02] <prince_jammys> ecret: your PATH issue is sorted out?
[05:02] <EEoar> Man, the vid card in this box sucks!  :)
[05:02] <twig11> adam7: I grabbed ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper-utils, and ndisgtk from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:02] <gogeta> PAPI: then boot windows open run type cmd type chkdsk c: /f
[05:02] <ecret> prince_jammys, not yet.  I can't get it to let me access .sh' from other paths
[05:02] <RiverRat> Is there anyway to have hibernate wake up with the screen locked?
[05:02] <twig11> adam7: since the machine wasn't online
[05:03] <DasEi> vavoysh: nice to hear, I'm becoming tired (second round, 6 am here); figure out exact model, then ask for drivers help again
[05:03] <gogeta> PAPI: chkdsk c: /F
[05:03] <gogeta> cap
[05:03] <vavoysh> DasEi: exact model is ATI Raedon x550
[05:03] <Yeehaw_> Can any one look into my query too :)
[05:03] <PAPI> ok
[05:03] <prince_jammys> ecret: when you open a terminal and 'echo "$PATH"', does it show up properly?
[05:03] <gogeta> PAPI: iff it find a issue it will ask if you whant to run on next boot slect yes
[05:03] <adam7> twig11: right, hm. Are you using 64bit or 32bit?
[05:03] <twig11> adam7: 32
[05:03] <wolf23> Anyone here use Deluge?
[05:03] <gogeta> PAPI: then do what i said the first time
[05:04] <ecret> prince_jammys: yjep. even ccopy pasted to make sure its typed right
[05:04] <PAPI> ok
[05:04] <gogeta> PAPI: i dirty flaged ntfs windows partation will not mount auto
[05:04] <gogeta> a
[05:04] <prince_jammys> ecret: so when you type 'shellscript' or whatever it's called, what happens?
[05:05] <vavoysh> ok, does anyone else want to help me with installing the graphics driver for an ATI Raedon x550?
[05:06] <ecret> prince_jammys: egg on my face. when I checked the path again it was wrong.
[05:06] <prince_jammys> ;)
[05:06] <ecret> prince_jammys thanks for the tip :<
[05:06]  * prince_jammys eggs ecret
[05:06] <gogeta> im acully bord lol
[05:07] <ecret> i feel better now. i was close to pulling my hair out. thank you
[05:07] <vavoysh> !video
[05:07] <gogeta> no quesstions today
[05:07] <vavoysh> !graphic
[05:07] <vavoysh> ><
[05:07] <prince_jammys> !ati | vavoysh
[05:07] <vavoysh> prince_jammys, thank you
[05:07] <prince_jammys> !botsnack
[05:07] <prince_jammys> mmm
[05:08] <Lunik> /part
[05:08] <ctmjr> eka, according to google you need to install firmware for your card here is a how to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-533528.html
[05:08] <gogeta> vavoysh: heck with all the oss going on with ati cards unless you own a bledding edge card it should work out of the box
[05:08] <EEoar> Hey, is there a server chan for Ubuntu?
[05:08] <adam7> EEoar: #ubuntu-server
[05:08] <prince_jammys> and there's #apache, should you have issues with that.
[05:09] <cee_imuddh> _imuddh
[05:09] <DasEi> vavoysh: if that all won't suit, vesa is the only chance (RV 370 chip),  though fglry could do
[05:09] <bullgard4> How to configure the Nautilus layout so that it will alway open with the current settings? (At the moment it always opens with a too narrow column 'Name'.)
[05:09] <vavoysh> thank you
[05:09] <DasEi> vavoysh: fglrx*^
[05:09] <gogeta> bullgard4: hit err save
[05:09] <eka> ctmjr : thanks .. i will try that and update the result
[05:10] <Apollo2366> Is sound recording very processor intensive?
[05:10] <bullgard4> gogeta: I beg your pardon?
[05:11] <gogeta> bullgard4: once you hit apply yur settings should not change bacm
[05:11] <gogeta> back
[05:11] <gogeta> bullgard4: look in aparence
[05:11] <Yeehaw_> Any solution to gcc messages -- "undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'"  while compiling applications/kernels
[05:12] <MRBANX> Hi Everyone
[05:12] <bullgard4> gogeta: What 'appearance' do you mean?
[05:13] <gogeta> Yeehaw_: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[05:13] <Yeehaw_> gogeta: has done that
[05:13] <gogeta> bullgard4: in prefs
[05:14] <gogeta> bullgard4: im a custom build hear so i cant tell you the exact menu names
[05:14] <evaro> how do I get/install ifort?
[05:14] <gogeta> bullgard4: lxde builld
[05:15] <echosystm> guys i really need help
[05:15] <eka> ctmjr : the dmesg out put is ....http://pastebin.com/m6826850d
[05:15] <echosystm> im using UNetbootin to make a ubuntu netinstall usb drive
[05:15] <prince_jammys> Yeehaw_: google ubuntu "undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'" jaunty  (or hardy, whatever) and you'll see some forum links
[05:15] <gogeta> Yeehaw_: with that package the kernel should recompile fine
[05:15] <quentusrex> ok, I've tried to boot a machine with ubuntu desktop 64 bit 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04
[05:15] <quentusrex> but each and every time I get a black screen
[05:15] <echosystm> it downloads a bunch of files, then extracts them and then does nothing
[05:15] <quentusrex> Any body have any idea?
[05:15] <echosystm> i end up with a usb drive with 15mb of stuff on it
[05:15] <gogeta> quentusrex: do you support 64bit
[05:15] <quentusrex> yes
[05:16] <Yeehaw_> prince_jammys: I tried that, most of the suggestions are to give -fno-stack-protector
[05:16] <gogeta> lol
[05:16] <Yeehaw_> Thats not working in my case
[05:16] <quentusrex> pentium D processor
[05:16] <adam7> gogeta: it will say if the architecture is incorrect
[05:16] <quentusrex> dual core 64-bit...
[05:16] <prince_jammys> Yeehaw_: ok. worth a shot.
[05:16] <gogeta> quentusrex: wrong
[05:16] <eka> http://pastebin.com/m6826850d
[05:16] <gogeta> quentusrex: pentum d is 32bit
[05:16] <Yeehaw_> prince_jammys: tired it no luck
[05:16] <Yeehaw_> s/tired/tried
[05:16] <Yeehaw_> is it any GCC bug
[05:17] <Yeehaw_> I am in Interpid
[05:17] <gogeta> quentusrex: 64 but wasent untill the intel core
[05:17] <eka> can anyone tell what are all problems in this output ..... http://pastebin.com/m6826850d
[05:17] <quentusrex> gogeta: I'm looking at the proc and it says 64bit
[05:17] <fuzzybunny69y> Guys i cannot figure out how to change the keyboard layout that is used by the Gnome Login window. It is stuck using the dvorak keyboard layout but everything else is set to use qwerty.
[05:17] <quentusrex> in the bios
[05:17] <gogeta> quentusrex: quentusrex it might support some calls but its 32
[05:17] <adam7> gogeta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_D
[05:17] <quentusrex> ok, thanks.
[05:17] <adam7> quentusrex: it should work
[05:17] <adam7> quentusrex: the Pentium D supports the x86-64 instruction set
[05:18] <gogeta> adam7: i knoe my p4d even the best model is not 64
[05:18] <bullgard4> gogeta: Thank you for commenting.
[05:18] <MRBANX> Hi everyone
[05:18] <prince_jammys> howdy.
[05:18] <iceblock> conky shows 8 cores on my system.......mauhahahahaha i love HT
[05:18] <MRBANX> looking for some Radeon 9000  low resolution mode problems
[05:18] <gogeta> adam7: its like the atom n270 it 64bit based but is 32
[05:18] <adam7> quentusrex: are you using a CD to boot?
[05:18] <MRBANX> err help on the problem
[05:19] <^paradox^> im in need of help with firefox. when i open it up it comes up fullscreen with no minimize, maximize or close buttons. how do i fix this?
[05:19] <adam7> gogeta: how can it be "64bit based"?
[05:19] <adam7> gogeta: wikipedia clearly states that it supports the x86-64 instruction set
[05:19] <gogeta> adam7: its weard i knoe
[05:19] <ctmjr> eka, did you unplug it and plug it back in ?
[05:19] <prince_jammys> !fixres | MRBANX : Worth looking at this for starters.
[05:19] <quentusrex> adam7 yes I'm using a cd to boot
[05:19] <iceblock> adam7: download and install moblin
[05:19] <eka> ctmjr : no
[05:19] <fuzzybunny69y> ^paradox^, I think if you hit F11 it will switch it in and out of full screen mode
[05:19] <gogeta> adam7: they based it of a 64bit set
[05:19] <eka> ctmjr: do i have to do it?
[05:19] <adam7> quentusrex: check the CD, or use a USB key if possible. the casue of most problems is a bad CD
[05:19] <MRBANX> great thansk prince jammy ill take a look
[05:20] <^paradox^> i tried that, didnt work
[05:20] <quentusrex> I've burn each one twice...
[05:20] <ctmjr> eka, try that then paste dmesg | tail thanks
[05:20] <gogeta> adam7: but there not true 64bit
[05:20] <adam7> gogeta: you can't base a 32bit CPU off of a 64bit one, 64bit is baed on 32bit
[05:20] <velcroshooz> Pentium 'D' is the newer version, they are basically underclocked core duo's, and yes they support 64 bits
[05:20] <fuzzybunny69y> ^paradox^, or press alt+space to bring up the window menu and unmaximize it
[05:20] <adam7> quentusrex: do you have a USB key?
[05:20] <gogeta> adam7: thats what intel did dont ask me
[05:20] <quentusrex> yes, and I've tried that too..
[05:20] <adam7> gogeta: can you find me a link?
[05:20] <^paradox^> well let me bring it up and try that brb
[05:20] <gogeta> velcroshooz: they do not annd there not underclocked
[05:20] <quentusrex> usb key has the same effect
[05:20] <quentusrex> Is there any way to get debug info?
[05:21] <gogeta> velcroshooz: p4d goes up to 3.2 gigherts
[05:21] <quentusrex> with boot options or something?
[05:21] <adam7> quentusrex: hm... do you have any extra USB devices plugged in?
[05:21] <quentusrex> adam7 no
[05:21] <adam7> quentusrex: does the CD check that you can choose when you boot from the CD work?
[05:21] <gogeta> i knoe there is no p4d 64
[05:21] <quentusrex> it passes the cd check.
[05:21] <adam7> gogeta: do you have a link?
[05:21] <iceblock> lol my 'Windows Experience is "7.1"' hahahahaha <----whats does that actually mean?
[05:22] <iceblock> whoops sorry wrong channel
[05:22] <adam7> quentusrex: hm, what kind of computer is it?
[05:22] <eka> ctmjr : http://pastebin.com/m1d46cb3c
[05:22] <darwinwj> anyone have any simple advice for a newby trying to network an 8.10 intrepid with an xp machine?
[05:22] <gogeta> adam7: i have a real p4d i knoe the chipset
[05:22] <adam7> gogeta: I have a Wikipedia article and personal experience that says Pentium Ds are 64bit.
[05:22] <altavatar> Hello, one of my linuxraid raid arrays failed after a recent kernel upgrade to 2.6.28-13 from -11. $ cat /proc/mdstat gives: md_d4 : inactive sde1[1](S) ... This should actually be active, and it should be picking up sdd1 too. When I boot the -11 kernel, only 1of2 raid partitions gets picked up, but at least i can make it active and re-add the other drive. (Note that this is linux software raid)
[05:23] <quentusrex> dell dimension 9150
[05:23] <maxagaz> how to check wether a port is open or not ?
[05:23] <gogeta> adam7: clflush size	: 64
[05:23] <gogeta> adam7: from my 32bit atom
[05:23] <^paradox^> fuzzybunny69y: didnt work. still cant get buttons back
[05:23] <gogeta> adam7: its not a 64 bit
[05:23] <adam7> gogeta: I have no idea what that is.
[05:23] <adam7> gogeta: check the instruction sets on your Atom and see if there is an x86-64 set
[05:24] <gogeta> adam7: thats cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:24] <velcroshooz> gogeta: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_d.htm Notice 'intel 64'
[05:24] <olimones> Hello, everyone. I use Kubuntu and want to go back tu ubuntu without reinstall it can I? can anyone help me?
[05:24] <MRBANX> I have a fresh install of Jaunty. i think the driver isnt correct for my Radeon 9000, before splash screen i get :"Running in low resolution mode" and no matter what option i pick , each time i have to choose the "run just this session in low res"
[05:24] <^paradox^> when firefox comes up it covers both top and bottom panels
[05:24] <gogeta> adam7: clflush is supposed to say if its 32 or 64
[05:24] <gogeta> adam7: it might support some 64 bit it is not a true 64bit
[05:24] <fuzzybunny69y> ^paradox^, hmmm I had a similar issue and that is what i had to do to fix it
[05:25] <adam7> gogeta: it can't support some 64bit
[05:25] <adam7> it's either all or nothign
[05:25] <gogeta> adam7: my n270 does and its a 32 bit
[05:25] <adam7> quentusrex: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingUbuntuOnADellDimension9150
[05:25] <adam7> gogeta: if I have 64MB of ram, does that make my CPU 64bit?
[05:25] <gogeta> adam7: no
[05:25] <velcroshooz> gogeta: i just gave you the intel link on the pentium d processor spec, they all support 64, end of story
[05:25] <^paradox^> i cant work like this, ive got to get it fixed
[05:25] <MRBANX> driver being used: zserver-xorg-video-radeon, is this the right one for Radeon 9000 ?
[05:25] <adam7> velcroshooz: I think we should just give up.
[05:26] <gogeta> velcroshooz: beleve what you whant i have a real d and a atom n270 there not 64
[05:26] <quentusrex> adam7 I have not see that yet.
[05:26] <quentusrex> I'll read it.
[05:26] <velcroshooz> adam7: yeah. im pretty sure i believe intel.com
[05:26] <velcroshooz> gogeta: intel.com is lying about thier own processors?
[05:26] <LargePrime> hello all.  how do I run a script from the command line?
[05:26] <adam7> velcroshooz: so do I, and wikpedia says so also, and I've booted it on a Pentium D before.
[05:26] <LargePrime> from terminal sorry
[05:26] <fuzzybunny69y> ^paradox^, when I had the problem the titlebar was just getting stuck under the gnome panel
[05:27] <[R]> LargePrime: you just type the name of it
[05:27] <gogeta> velcroshooz: when dont they
[05:27] <velcroshooz> adam7: yeah. pointless to argue
[05:27] <[R]> LargePrime: including the path to it
[05:27] <sleepy_cat> how to enable rar support for package manager..
[05:27] <velcroshooz> gogeta: LOL whatever. im done.
[05:27] <[R]> sleepy_cat: rar support? huh?
[05:27] <sleepy_cat> sudo apt-get install unrar ? an i correct
[05:27] <rogst> MRBANX: I dont have a Radeon card so Im not sure but there is a xserver-xorg-video-ati driver, have you tried that one ?
[05:27] <^paradox^> maybe if i show u. let me screenshot it
[05:27] <sleepy_cat> yeah rar files
[05:27] <fuzzybunny69y> ^paradox^, what if you go into the alt+space window menu and resize the window
[05:27] <[R]> sleepy_cat: the package manager doenst use rar...
[05:28] <sleepy_cat> ahaan
[05:28] <MRBANX> i havent, i read from ATi's site that my card is too old for the ATI driver..
[05:28] <sleepy_cat> then whats the alternative
[05:28] <MRBANX> i ll try that now
[05:28] <[R]> sleepy_cat: huh?
[05:28] <gogeta> velcroshooz: my atam even has the 64 bit lm flage and its not 64
[05:28] <sleepy_cat> i got a rar file i want to unrar it.. so i can get the contents ... but package manager (default) does not allow me to do so,.. so how to unrar the rar file
[05:29] <[R]> sleepy_cat: what does the package manager have anything to do with extracting files?
[05:29] <eka> ctmjr : http://pastebin.com/m1d46cb3c
[05:29] <eka> http://pastebin.com/m1d46cb3c
[05:29] <MikeJc> join #linux
[05:30] <^paradox^> resize wont do anything. tried it
[05:30] <eka> join #linux
[05:30] <sleepy_cat> [R]: i am not sure whether its the package manager.. but when u double click on the rared/tared file it opens up in something
[05:30] <sleepy_cat> that is unable to unrar
[05:30] <gogeta> ok back to the guy with the p4d you still hear
[05:30] <[R]> sleepy_cat: because you didnt install unrar
[05:30] <^paradox^> brb im gonna put it on the image thing
[05:30] <sleepy_cat> i have lost the name
[05:31] <[R]> sleepy_cat: its called file-roller
[05:31] <adam7> gogeta: what series Atom do you have?
[05:31] <sleepy_cat> so sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:31] <adam7> some Atoms are 64bit
[05:31] <gogeta> n270
[05:31] <[R]> sleepy_cat: how do you install anyting?
[05:31] <sleepy_cat> so sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:31] <twig11> Guys! Guys! I'm online! It's working! Now please will some wireless-savvy geek take a look at this and let me know if there's something else I have to do to make sure it runs when I reboot.
[05:31] <gogeta> 32bit
[05:31] <sleepy_cat> am i correct
[05:31] <adam7> twig11: what did you do?
[05:31] <gogeta> yet has all 64 flages
[05:31] <twig11> adam7: http://pastebin.com/m3cb6a0eb
[05:31] <Apollo2366> So, my friend wants to use his laptop to record his band. So my question is how does the cpu affect sound recording?
[05:31] <gogeta> only lshw shows it as 32
[05:32] <s0|> hello, I am wondering what repo I need to added to apt-sources to get postgres8.4
[05:32] <sleepy_cat> [R]: ??
[05:32] <gogeta> twig11: hey ever fix your wireless
[05:32] <[R]> sleepy_cat: what?
[05:32] <sleepy_cat> am i correct
[05:32] <sleepy_cat> sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:32] <ctmjr> eka, still here sorry trying to find out why it is not being recognized try this and see if you get any errors sudo modbprobe em28xx then sudo modinfo em28xx
[05:32] <darwinwj> night all, next time
[05:32] <^paradox^> back
[05:32] <twig11> gogeta: like just now! after all these hours and my wife thinking I'm neglecting her and everything. Here's what I did. http://pastebin.com/m3cb6a0eb
[05:32] <[R]> sleepy_cat: if you dont know how to install things... you really should read the ubuntu documentation
[05:33] <adam7> twig11: if you run those commands in that order every time, it should work
[05:33] <gogeta> to the p4d owner type sudo lshw if linux and scroll up to cpu and look for width 32 or 64 and you will truly knoe your cpu type
[05:33] <sleepy_cat> i know how to install things.. but i am not sure about unrar.. is that correct
[05:33] <sleepy_cat> rest is right for sure
[05:33] <[R]> sleepy_cat: well there is one wy to find out...
[05:33] <poven> hi guys, the nvidia-settings manager means my second monitor is a crt. so the rate is 85hz. how can i change this to a tft rate?
[05:33] <LargePrime> [R]: in terminal if i cd to the dir, I cannot run the script with sudo scriptname   ?
[05:33] <adam7> LargePrime: sudo ./scriptname will work
[05:33] <[R]> LargePrime: if you are in the directory, you have to do ./blah
[05:33] <twig11> adam7: yeah, but is there any way to get network-manager to automatically connect on reboot?
[05:33] <prince_jammys> sleepy_cat: sudo apt-get install unrar  looks fine
[05:34] <prince_jammys> if that's what you're asking
[05:34] <LargePrime> sudo "./" + scriptname?
[05:34] <sleepy_cat> ok
[05:34] <sleepy_cat> thanks prince_jammys
[05:34] <adam7> twig11: only way to find out is to reboot :P but I don't know. As I said, ndiswrapper is not the best wireless driver around
[05:34] <LargePrime> [R]: adam7 k
[05:34] <eka> ctnjr : the output is ..... http://pastebin.com/d264c6fd9
[05:34] <gogeta> twig11: so dchlient wwas locked up all that time
[05:35] <Double_Kill2> can someone help me? i'm on ubuntu 8.04, all of my videos that i watch have a blue/green tint to them.
[05:35] <^paradox^> ok heres what my screen looks like when firefox is acting up http://imagebin.org/55852
[05:35] <twig11> gogeta: I don't know. what do you think was my problem?
[05:35] <adam7> ^paradox^: what's wrong with that?
[05:35] <gogeta> twig11: dchlient well now thats its fixed wifi radar should work fine
[05:35] <twig11> gogeta: I'd be very grateful for a little light on what I did wrong because I'm not absolutely sure even right now what really changed.
[05:35] <gogeta> twig11: or you can make a script
[05:36] <^paradox^> i was able to fix this before by shutting down my pc, but now that wont work
[05:36] <adam7> ^paradox^: what's wrong with that screenshot?
[05:36] <twig11> gogeta: I don't know how to make scripts. and do I have to uninstall network-manager to install wifi radar?
[05:36] <Veratyr99> im running 8.04 server, trying to figure out if my raid controller is configured correctly.  how can i list the hard drives availible to the server in command line?
[05:36] <joustin> j
[05:36] <bullgard4> How to configure the Nautilus layout so that it will alway open with the current settings? (At the moment it always opens with a too narrow column 'Name'.)
[05:36] <^paradox^> adam7: how do i get my minimize, maximize, quit buttons back?
[05:37] <agruman> heya, i have 2 dvd drives and would like to change which gets used as default, as of now its the old one
[05:37] <adam7> ^paradox^: press f11
[05:37] <twig11> gogeta:  sudo aptitude install wifi-radar ?
[05:37] <gogeta> twig11: did you change your driver
[05:37] <twig11> gogeta: no, exact same files
[05:37] <velcroshooz> Running jaunty 64, 185 nvidia 64 driver, trying to get Quake 4 to run, getting this error - http://pastebin.com/m153f9d96 direct rendering is on, Open Arena and other games work fine. Have dug around and it may be that might 32 bit compatibilty layer for the nvidia driver is not linked correctly/isnt installed where Quake is looking. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:38] <s0|> hello, I am wondering what repo I need to added to apt-sources to get postgresql 8.4 as only older version show up in apt-
[05:38] <gogeta> twig11: i think dchlient -r wlan0 freed it up
[05:38] <^paradox^> it worked, but i had to do it a couple of times
[05:38] <Double_Kill2> can someone help me? all my videos have a blue tint to them?
[05:38] <twig11> gogeta: kevdog told me about that and I had tried it loads of times before without success.
[05:39] <jasonmchristos> Double_Kill2: what videos
[05:39] <adam7> gogeta: rebooting should have freed the dhcp lease
[05:39] <losher> Double_Kill2: usually there's a way to adjust the color balance. What player do you use?
[05:39] <prince_jammys> Double_Kill2: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484515
[05:39] <^paradox^> adam7: is there a way to stop it from coming up like that when i open firefox?
[05:39] <gogeta> adam7: true but look at his poastbin
[05:39] <LargePrime> [R]: why would a compile make a Post script image of my task bar?
[05:39] <adam7> ^paradox^: yeah, but I've forgotten what it was, one second
[05:39] <gogeta> adam7: things didnt respond untill he did
[05:39] <Double_Kill2> i use the movie player
[05:39] <Double_Kill2> that is on ubuntu
[05:39] <iceblock> how long till 9.10 gets released
[05:40] <adam7> ^paradox^: once you press f11, then resize the window to something smaller
[05:40] <jakerue> ok I may well be retarded but what is happening with inetd here?  I am trying to set up Samba and put in SWAT which notified me that smbd and nmbd were not running....did some edits and was able to edit  /etc/inetd.conf but now cannot start it....what gives?
[05:40] <^paradox^> adam7: thanks for ur help u too fuzzybunny69y
[05:40] <[R]> LargePrime: huh?
[05:40] <ctmjr> eka, ok sorry it should have been modprobe but it is loaded anyway and you installed the firmware correct?
[05:40] <gogeta> twig11: what dhclient not relesing leases
[05:40] <Double_Kill2> prince_jammys, thank you i will check that out sounds just like me
[05:40] <joustin> 9.10 should be october
[05:40] <jakerue> getting sudo: /etc/init.d/inetd: command not found
[05:41] <LargePrime> [R]: when I ran the compile, it created a ps file in the dir named os, it is a image of my task bar (what is the ubuntu name for the task bar)
[05:41] <LargePrime> [R]: it is globulation 2
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu dosent use inetd or xinetd by default. ive not tried swat.. since i Hate swat. :)
[05:41] <twig11> gogeta: what do you mean?
[05:41] <[R]> LargePrime: huh?
[05:41] <[R]> LargePrime: what are you talking about?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[05:41] <iceblock> i miss my amiga 500 :(
[05:41] <nztal> anyone know how to configure the backspace key on a apple wireless keyboard to instead of functioning like a delete key, to act like an actual backspace key ?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> nztal:  at one time there was a whole howto called the  'backspace - delete howto'
[05:42] <losher> jakerue: I thought it was called xinetd in Ubuntu...
[05:42] <jasonmchristos> is ubuntu the best linux distro?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> theres some key binding commands to remap the 2
[05:42] <LargePrime> [R]: I ran a script to do a compile of globulation 2, it created a image of my task bar in the directory
[05:42] <Besogon> I've updated my 8.10 to 9.04 and it sseems that "notification-properties" works not right. When I change place for notification, notification place remains the same. Any idea?
[05:42] <nztal> thank you Dr_Willis
[05:42] <gogeta> twig11: looks likes thats working great now with you manuly removing the lease
[05:42] <losher> jasonmchristos: best for what?
[05:42] <joustin> best for beginner maybe
[05:42] <jasonmchristos> losher: all around
[05:42] <gogeta> twig11: if you need you can make a script so you dont need to keep typing all that
[05:42] <^paradox^> ok i did that and when i closed and reopened firefox it didnt open the way it showed in that screenshot
[05:43] <[R]> LargePrime: sounds like a stupid script
[05:43] <losher> jasonmchristos: yes, it's the best. Now stop worrying about it...
[05:43] <jasonmchristos> ha ha, so what is the best for security?
[05:43] <gogeta> twig11: if text is thee only way for your card to work right
[05:43] <^paradox^> adam7: one more question
[05:43] <adam7> ^paradox^: ok...
[05:43] <iceblock> i need to roll another joint
[05:43] <MRBANX> ohhhh joints are great!
[05:44] <MRBANX> :0
[05:44] <jasonmchristos> iceblock: that is offtopic
[05:44] <Reitz> hello
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  theres secure.. then theres paranoid secure.. then thers so secure you have to do a backflip to even login secure...
[05:44] <ctmjr> eka, i found this make sure that is your card  and if it is follow the how to it says you need a differnet driver http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-Stick
[05:44] <shawanda> just learning ubuntu and is trying to login as root, but dont know how
[05:44] <Reitz> is there any way to run a virtual system in ubuntu?
[05:44] <joustin> i wonder if ubuntu will follow moblin and have x run as the logged in user
[05:44] <adam7> jasonmchristos: a default Ubuntu install has no ports open by default
[05:44] <Besogon> Does anybody know thomething about "notification-properties"?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  ubuntu is a good mixx of secure . but not so locked down its  a pain. :)
[05:44] <losher> jasonmchristos: actually, openbsd is said to be 'best' for security....
[05:44] <adam7> shawanda: sudo -i
[05:44] <jasonmchristos> losher: interesting thanks
[05:44] <^paradox^> adam7: i was looking at some manga sites that had popups that went full screen just like that. could any of those have done that to firefox?
[05:45] <shawanda> where do I go to put in sudo
[05:45] <adam7> ^paradox^: Not sure, but doubt it
[05:45] <adam7> shawanda: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[05:45] <Double_Kill2> prince_jammys, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:45] <prince_jammys> ^paradox^: yes, i've experienced that.
[05:45] <jasonmchristos> Dr_Willis: i keep having connections i dont know about like washington dc
[05:45] <prince_jammys> Double_Kill2: welcome
[05:45] <shawanda> thanks
[05:45] <jasonmchristos> Dr_Willis: i think i am bieng watched
[05:45] <twig11> gogeta: adam7: I did one other thing just before I cycled the interface with dhclient -r wlan0. following these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper) I entered in /etc/network/interfaces the lines that you see here http://pastebin.com/d879b05b After the change as shown in pastebin, I think was the first time it kept the essid and connected.
[05:45] <adam7> jasonmchristos: the best form of security is to unplug your computer :P
[05:45] <^paradox^> adam7:what would cause it because id certainly never set it that way on purpose?
[05:46] <losher> jasonmchristos: go back on your meds
[05:46] <shawanda> goodnight
[05:46] <adam7> Paraselene_: not sure what causes it, sorry :(
[05:46] <prince_jammys> ^paradox^: those sites make that happen on purpose, so that the popups are difficult to close.
[05:46] <iceblock> why does top cmd work in windows 7 powershell
[05:46] <agruman> what application creates the /dev/dvd symlink?
[05:46] <Sephy> Is there a .ogm player for linux?
[05:46] <^paradox^> is there any way to prevent it? i mean to prevent it from getting like this http://imagebin.org/55852
[05:46] <Sephy> Ubuntu actually
[05:47] <jasonmchristos> adam7: losher: thanks but i would rather not
[05:47] <smashbox> WINDOWS 7 IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER
[05:47] <adam7> !ot > smashbox
[05:47] <smashbox> I got yelled at.. =( ... cya guys
[05:47] <adam7> jasonmchristos: well, Ubuntu is much more secure by default then Windows
[05:47] <^paradox^> i read manga online all the time
[05:47] <prince_jammys> Sephy: have you tried vlc?
[05:47] <johnf1> anyone noticed anything strange with the system load on karmic?
[05:47] <jasonmchristos> adam7: what is a good firewall
[05:48] <adam7> jasonmchristos: you don't need one
[05:48] <twig11> gogeta: I'm totally intimidated at the thought of writing a script. I have no experience, so getting it working would probably take me hours and hours.  Is it easier than I think?
[05:48] <adam7> !firewall | jasonmchristos
[05:48] <johnf1> I have processes eating 90% cpu, the laptop feels sluggish but my load is mestiriously 0.00
[05:48] <bambu> hi. what are the pros and cons of using wine?
[05:48] <gogeta> twig11: lol its easy ill make it if you wish
[05:48] <snarkster> i have 64 bit ubuntu installed is there anyway to be able to run 32bit apps?
[05:48] <[R]> bambu: the pros are you can run windows programs
[05:48] <losher> jasonmchristos: actually, for home use, a NAT router is a good precaution to have between you and the internet
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> bambu:  whenit works - its good.. when it dont.. well.. it dont...
[05:48] <ctmjr> !karmic | johnf1
[05:48] <Veratyr99> throw it out a window, it will either get the point to go faster or die
[05:48] <[R]> bambu: the cons are you are running windows programs
[05:48] <twig11> gogeta: YAY!
[05:48] <Veratyr99> wrong window
[05:48] <jasonmchristos> adam7: apparently i do when washington dc is connected to my computer at all times
[05:49] <Sephy> Is there a player that will play .ogm video files?
[05:49] <Sephy> I cannot seem to get them to paly
[05:49] <johnf1> ahh thanks
[05:49] <prince_jammys> Sephy: try vlc
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Sephy:   i play them all the time in vlc/xine/gmplayer
[05:49] <PhantomSV> wats normal transfer rate for cut and paste files from ubuntu to a windows partition?
[05:49] <adam7> jasonmchristos: and how do you know this?
[05:49] <Sephy> thank you Dr_Willis
[05:49] <bambu> is there a significant performance decrease when using wine?
[05:49] <twig11> gogeta: in other words YES I wish you to make me a script if you are really that generous.
[05:49] <[R]> bambu: decrase in what?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> bambu:  its not windows.. so of course there can be.
[05:50] <jasonmchristos> adam7: command line netstat
[05:50] <Bookman> Is there an open source program that schedules physical resources?  Like machinery in a production line?
[05:50] <jakerue> losher I think it is but the only howto I could find for getting nmbd and smbd running are through inetd
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> bambu:  ive seen windows programs run fsater in wine (sucked when a game ran at 2x normal speed)
[05:50] <bambu> k thx
[05:50] <^paradox^> i know this problem may seem insignificant, but lol i consider a title bar to be necessary
[05:50] <bullgard4> What is a 'Xapian index'? As in Synaptic: "update-apt-xapian-index"
[05:50] <jasonmchristos> adam7: i actually did disconnect the computer its not this one
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> bambu:  it all depends on the windows app.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | bambu
[05:50] <twig11> gogeta:  While you're doing it, can I be fairly sure that sudo aptitude install wifi-radar won't cause me to lose all the ground I've gained so far?
[05:50] <adam7> jasonmchristos: netstat also shows outgoing commands
[05:51] <twig11> gogeta: and is it wifi-radar?
[05:51] <sleepy_cat> how to read a .chm document in Ubuntu 9.04 I tied opening with Document Viewer but it says missing application/octet
[05:51] <jasonmchristos> Adam7: so...
[05:51] <^paradox^> oh its only ff thats doing it. none of my other apps are acting up
[05:51] <eka> ctmjr : i installed the firmware ......... dmesg output after unplugging and plugging in the tuner card is ..... http://pastebin.com/d7c2d857
[05:51] <e-frame> hey, can it be done this way? about delay-pools. http://paste.lisp.org/display/83560
[05:51] <losher> jakerue: that's odd. I never run smbd through (x)inetd. I just install it & configure /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:52] <adam7> jasonmchristos: can I see your netstat output?
[05:52] <jasonmchristos> let me find it
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> these docs show how to enable swat ->   Ive neer had to run smbd with xinetd either.
[05:52] <jasonmchristos> pm me
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[05:52] <jakerue> losher: what I am reading says Samba needs smnd and nmbd to work and they are not running.....
[05:52] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: apparently, xapian is a library used for applications' searching and indexing.
[05:52] <gogeta> twig11: a gui for connecting
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  you did install the samba service/package?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  try 'sudo service samba restart'
[05:53] <adam7> !pastebin | jasonmchristos
[05:53] <novato> hoooo fuck
[05:53] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: Thank you for commenting.
[05:53] <snarkster> so there is no library that will allow me to run 32 i386 apps on my amd64bit platform?
[05:53] <jakerue> Dr.Willis I can get to SWAT, it's SWAT that tells me smbd and nmbd are not running.  I'll have a go at the link you gave and be back
[05:53] <twig11> gogeta: I understand that. Is it going to want to kick network-manager off my system?
[05:53] <Gnimsh> hey ubuntu
[05:53] <losher> jakerue: understood. Once installed, and /etc/samba/smb.conf is configure (correctly!) then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart will start the daemons. No need to involve (x)inetd
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  could be swat is confused.
[05:54] <losher> !swat
[05:54] <ctmjr> eka, did you get a chance to look at this guide i am out of ideas http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-Stick
[05:54] <^paradox^> i guess f11 plus resizing is the only i can do for now if it starts acting up again. if yall remember something though on how to prevent it how `bout shoot me an email iceman3@charter.net
[05:54] <e-frame> no answer from anyone in #squid , can it be done this way? about delay-pools. http://paste.lisp.org/display/83560
[05:54] <Gnimsh> I just noticed this weird thing...when I go to system>preferences>sound and choose the sound tab, and uncheck "play alerts and sound effects" my bluetooth icon also disappears.  The light stays on but the icon goes away.
[05:54] <Gnimsh> in Jaunty
[05:54] <Gnimsh> does this happen w/ anyone else?
[05:54] <jasonmchristos> adam7: its not there anymore
[05:55] <eka> ctmjr : yes i am looking at it now i will update u on the results
[05:55] <velcroshooz> Running jaunty 64, 185 nvidia 64 driver, trying to get Quake 4 to run, getting this error - http://pastebin.com/m153f9d96 direct rendering is on, Open Arena and other games work fine. Have dug around and it may be that my 32 bit compatibilty layer for the nvidia driver is not linked correctly/isnt installed where Quake is looking. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:55] <^paradox^> i gotta few errands to run so im out. thanks all of you very much for your help :-)
[05:55] <jasonmchristos> adam7: so firestarter is good?
[05:55] <adam7> jasonmchristos: are you running a server?
[05:56] <prince_jammys> ^paradox^: all i ever found was workarounds like what you did. best to stay away from those sites.
[05:56] <ctmjr> eka, ok i have to go it is 1 am here good luck
[05:56] <novato> hello help ubunut 8.10 googleearth parpadea mucho
[05:56] <jasonmchristos> adam7: what do you mean by server its ubuntu desktop os
[05:56] <eka> ctmjr : we will meet next time you are really help ful thank you
[05:56] <adam7> jasonmchristos: if you haven't instaled any additional packages, you don't need firestarted
[05:57] <jasonmchristos> Adam7 i install all kinds of things
[05:57] <jasonmchristos> adam7: who only uses the default programs
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  the guide at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat  seems to worked.. i idd enter my 'user' name and password. i have not enabled root.. lets see if i can actually config it.
[05:57] <cxamer> If I have Ubuntu 9.04 minimal, Can I install kde-desktop?
[05:57] <adam7> jasonmchristos: do you have a wireless router?
[05:58] <[R]> cxamer: you cna install anyting yo uwant
[05:58] <jakerue> losher, Dr_Willis, did both your recommends, went back to SWAT....neither service is running
[05:58] <novato> help cairo dock in ubuntu 8.10 parpadea mucho y se ve con un fond black
[05:58] <jasonmchristos> why does ean complain about ubuntu saying that it is not free software
[05:58] <jasonmchristos> adam7: yes why
[05:58] <adam7> jasonmchristos: does it use NAT?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  it says they are running here. You did 'sudo apt-get install samba' yes?
[05:59] <novato> hoooo my god
[05:59] <adam7> jasonmchristos: if so, it is *very* unlikely that anyone is connected to your computer
[05:59] <jasonmchristos> adam7: yes, but i dont like nat
[05:59] <novato> ubuntu is terreble
[05:59] <adam7> jasonmchristos: so you enabled dmz to your computer?
[05:59] <jasonmchristos> adam7: i think there are trojans in the ubuntu community maintained software
[05:59] <jakerue> Dr.Willis I already have Samba running....I can get to localhost:991
[06:00] <Gnimsh> jasonmchristos, I think that's ridiculous.
[06:00] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: I think you're being silly right now.
[06:00] <jasonmchristos> adam7: i have used dmz but like i said i took the whole thing offline i was bieng watched
[06:00] <bastidrazor> troll
[06:00] <adam7> bastidrazor: yep
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  well i get there.. but i logged in as my user.. i cant change any configs,, other then my password.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  cant fiture out how to log out so i can login as root. :0
[06:01] <jasonmchristos> i say i think its a trojan because i searched the thing in ubuntu forums
[06:01] <jasonmchristos> and someone else had the same unexplained connection
[06:01] <jakerue> Dr.Willis you get where?  to the SWAT page?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  yes. its working
[06:01] <jakerue> right and under status what does it say?
[06:02] <jasonmchristos> is firestarter a good firewall or not?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  says they are all running.
[06:02] <jakerue> you have to chmod smb.conf to get rights to config
[06:02] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Can you post the link?  I caught the end of the discussion.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  its  iptables frontend/gui - its a decent tool.
[06:03] <jakerue> Dr_Willis....under mine it says version:3.3.2smbd:not running  nmbd:not running  winbindd:running
[06:03] <adam7> mobi-sheep/ Dr_Willis: troll warning
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  i did do a 'no no ' and just now enabled the root password - so i could actually do some config stuff with swat. thats proberly why its not instlled by default
[06:03] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: i will try and look for it again i took the whole system down all i can remember was that it was some washington dc connection
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  all i did was install samba , then followed that guide .  swat is the only thing getting strted by xinted
[06:04] <gogeta> twig11: tested it on my own card
[06:04] <ibrar> I am using wvdial to connect to internet but failed to and getting garbage data ?
[06:04] <twig11> gogeta: great!
[06:04] <jakerue> Dr_willis hmmmmm....well dunno....I have been having problems with sharing printers and browsing workgroups so I am looking deep into samba to get it working.....
[06:05] <angel_> I have a server + multiple clients , a router , switch , and multiple access points  which share the internet , I wanna install ubuntu and windows operating systems over clients, but I want every client to load the session via the server, what you suggest me?
[06:05] <asxsax_> is there any way to start the "terminator (multi terminal)" with two terminals?
[06:05] <Bookman> Is there an open source program that schedules physical resources?  Like machinery in a production line?
[06:05] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: i think it was trusted.lostinthe but i know it had lostinthe in the address
[06:05] <twig11> gogeta: can you send it on over?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  you mean 'nautilus' browsing samba shares/workgroups? or  havingissues mountingthem
[06:06] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: How do you determine that it was something in Washington DC?  It could be the mirror you're connecting to for package update/upgrade.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  ive had big issues with the gnome file manager 'browsing' smb servers.. i often have to just enter the full path to the server/share the first thme.. then it starts workiong
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  but i can mount the shares just fine.
[06:06] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: there was more than one i just remember that one was from wash dc
[06:07] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: so do you think firestarter will fix the problem?
[06:07] <iceblock> pizza!!!
[06:07] <jakerue> Dr_Willis - nautilus, I can't see any of the XP machine in my network or share printers....trying to see if it was Samba
[06:07] <evaro> how do i join a new channel?
[06:07] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Do you use openssh-server?
[06:07] <joustin> use /join
[06:07] <Pubu> . /join #whatever
[06:07] <joustin> then the channel name
[06:07] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: no but i was thinking about it
[06:07] <joustin> ^
[06:07] <lasehopesinyouu> ./j #l;waberlejr
[06:07] <Pubu> yee
[06:07] <twig11> gogeta: You there?
[06:07] <lasehopesinyouu> how do i get google talk on here
[06:08] <lasehopesinyouu> and can i play games such as counter strike
[06:08] <evaro> thanks!
[06:08] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: I'm thinking you're taking the route of Occam's razor.
[06:08]  * lasehopesinyouu slaps mobi-sheep around a bit with a large trout
[06:08] <pup> lasehopesinyouu: have u used pidgin?
[06:08] <lasehopesinyouu> for aim
[06:08] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: whats that
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  well good luck.its bed time for me,
[06:08] <jakerue> Dr_Willis also curious if Samba can be in more than one workgroup...haven't found anything definitive on that
[06:08] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
[06:08] <Gnimsh> lasehopesinyouu, install wine
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> jakerue:  thats somthingive never done.. try reading the books in the 'samba-doc' package perhaps.
[06:08] <lasehopesinyouu> i have it
[06:08] <lasehopesinyouu> lol
[06:08] <Gnimsh> then install your games
[06:09] <lasehopesinyouu> ok
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> night...
[06:09] <jakerue> Dr_Willis sure thanks.....may just uninstall and restart.  Thanks agin
[06:09] <jakerue> night
[06:09] <pup> Gnimsh: i haven't been able to use googletalk with wine
[06:09] <Gnimsh> also try virtualbox 3
[06:09] <Gnimsh> i don't use gtalk but in pidgin
[06:09] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: how was i referring to this?
[06:09] <Gnimsh> pidgin oughta be enough for anyone! :p
[06:10] <pup> Gnimsh: i agree!
[06:10] <bullgard4> What is a 'Xapian index'? As in Synaptic: "update-apt-xapian-index"
[06:10] <e-frame> talkin about pidgin, guifications fails here when adding new themes
[06:10] <e-frame> new added themes not seen in theme list
[06:10] <Pubu> anyone good with cams on ubunutu?
[06:10] <Gnimsh> i don't use pidgin themes
[06:11] <pup> the original pidgin is pretty as is
[06:11] <e-frame> Gnimsh: not pidgin themes, but pidgin guification themes
[06:11] <bullgard4> Pubu: Please put in this channel a more specific question.
[06:11] <losher> bullgard4: http://www.enricozini.org/sw/apt-xapian-index/    No idea what it means though
[06:11] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: For example, you're claiming that somebody in Washington DC is hacking your computer without evidence.  You can't supply us with any information.  You have no hard evidence but you're acting on your paranoid unconditionally. When in reality, it could be simple as mirror or the same website you frequent often.
[06:11] <Pubu> ok, what is the first thing i need to do to get Ubuntu to recognize my cam?
[06:12] <e-frame> Pubu: try cheese
[06:12] <Gnimsh> webcam?
[06:12] <adam7> mobi-sheep: and he has a wireless router with NAT enabled, which is an excellent incoming firewall...
[06:12] <Gnimsh> digicam?
[06:12] <pup> Pubu: i did not have to do anything, just plugged it in and it was detected!
[06:12] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: i saw the connection ok, why does this group try so hard to convince people not to use firewalls
[06:12] <lasehopesinyouu> oh true
[06:12] <lasehopesinyouu> it has both on there
[06:12] <pup> Pubu: mine is a Canon digicam
[06:12] <Pubu> i have a creative , hp, and another
[06:12] <Pubu> its a webcam, not digital camera
[06:12] <lasehopesinyouu> anyone ever try steam
[06:12] <click> what is a shortcut to minimize all windows and go to desktop?
[06:12] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security   Meanwhile, I'll find you a good firewall tutorial.
[06:13] <Pubu> cheese does not let me see the video
[06:13] <Gnimsh> well that's not fair, it didn't detect my canon at all
[06:13] <Gnimsh> exchanged it for a nokia
[06:13] <e-frame> click ctrl+d
[06:13] <pup> click: it's customizable
[06:13] <M|mode[sz]> et
[06:13] <Pubu> no camera found
[06:13] <e-frame> click ctrl+alt+d I think
[06:13] <angel_> I wanna build up a pc pool lab for students and I need to have full control over clients, could you please share your ideas , what do I need to consider for this?
[06:13] <jasonmchristos> does anyone know why ian of debian said that ubuntu is not meeting free software requirements?
[06:13] <brodymcd> hi all - wireless problem in 9.04 - install was great, Broadcom in my dell lappy perfect right away... now I can't get on wireless at all, even though I have an eeepc (on which I am typing now) 6 inches away and on NO PROBLEM
[06:13] <s0|> anyone here good with sed? I have a file with ip addresses followed by some counts in CSV notation, I want to strip the last octet but sed 's/\.[0-9]{1,3}\,/,/' isn't striping the last octet
[06:13] <Gnimsh> I thought cheese was for webcams?
[06:13] <Pubu> yes it just says  no camera found
[06:14] <Gnimsh> so the proximity of the eeepc dictates wifi connectivity? :p
[06:14] <Gnimsh> maybe you can't make videos through your computer
[06:14] <bullgard4> losher: I am sorry. Your link is of no help: I found the same text in 3 other documents. One writer copies the text from another one. No original work. No explanation. --  Sorry.
[06:14] <prince_jammys> jasonmchristos: he has a blog. check there.
[06:14] <lasehopesinyouu> how do i get a weather widget
[06:14] <Gnimsh> brodymcd, you should download madwifi and install that
[06:14] <Gnimsh> it usually makes broadcom work
[06:14] <message144> Is there a way to get sound in Firefox on 9.04? I have tried evry solution i could find on Google, but nothing seems to work
[06:14] <prince_jammys> jasonmchristos: ianmurdock.com
[06:14] <click> e-frame, thanks
[06:14] <Horwitz1> Got networking problems, but they don't seem to just involve wireless.
[06:14] <jasonmchristos> prince_jammys: ok thanks i just thought maybe someone knew of tops
[06:14] <lasehopesinyouu> and change the look of my bars on top and the bottom of the screen
[06:15] <Gnimsh> lasehopesinyouu, for the widget, install screenlets
[06:15] <brodymcd> gnimsh - where to get madwifi? I ask because I will have to take lappy away to wired place, then come back and thank you when it works! :)
[06:15] <Horwitz1> I plugged an Ethernet cable into my laptop and the modem, which has always worked before, but not now.
[06:15] <glitsj16> message144: what plugins have you installed in firefox?
[06:15] <Gnimsh> google it
[06:15] <losher> angel_: I think the best setup is to netboot them from a server so any local changes can be wiped out with a reboot. Otherwise they'll end up full of porn & god knows what else...
[06:15] <e-frame> click: customize your keyboard shortcuts in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[06:15] <lasehopesinyouu> what about themes
[06:15] <prince_jammys> jasonmchristos: probably because non-free drivers come bundled with ubuntu, is my guess.
[06:15] <Gnimsh> lasehopesinyouu: system>preferences>appearance
[06:15] <Pubu> do i need to restart ubuntu in order for it to detect a cam/camera?
[06:15] <losher> bullgard4: sorry, but it's clearly debian related. Maybe you can ask on #debian?
[06:16] <Gnimsh> www.gnome-look.org for more themes
[06:16] <message144> glitsj16: I installed the flash plugin which didnt work.. Then i tried gnash with mplayer plugin and gstreamer
[06:16] <wrb123> hello!
[06:16] <Gnimsh> message144, go to adobe's homepage and download flash for ubuntu 8.04+
[06:16] <Gnimsh> hoping you have 32 bit
[06:16] <lasehopesinyouu> for screnlets do i download the source/
[06:16] <Gnimsh> no
[06:16] <bullgard4> losher: It has implications to ubuntu, too. I will give it a try in #debian. --  Thank you.
[06:16] <Gnimsh> what ubuntu are you running?
[06:16] <message144> Gnimsh: Yes I did that
[06:16] <wrb123> i just installed ubuntu 9 desktop version and i would like to say it's really awesome and so much better than when i tried to install 8 server edition and got frustrated setting up the networking.. good work linuxers
[06:16] <duvnell> I just installed an old PCI sound card and booted up.. it wasn't recognized, but is listed in dmesg in the boot messages... is there some tool I need to run to make it figure out which module to load to create the alsa device?
[06:16] <message144> Gnimsh: 9.04
[06:17] <message144> Gnimsh: although its not just flash. No sound is working at all in FF
[06:17] <Horwitz1> To be COMPLETELY honest, I'm not even sure it's an Ubuntu problem -- I switched over to Vista and it couldn't connect to the Internet. Just the house network. And I don't think either of the other computers are having problems.
[06:17] <message144> Gnimsh: ogg isnt working either
[06:17] <Gnimsh> lasehopesinyouu, screenlets can be installed from synaptic
[06:18] <glitsj16> message144: well, in any case, make sure you only have one flash related plugin active, odd that flashplugin-installer didn't work though ... any informative error messages when you run firefox from terminal?
[06:18] <Gnimsh> alternatively you can add a weather widget to your panels
[06:18] <Gnimsh> just right click and search
[06:18] <losher> duvnell: you may need a driver. I would try googling the card model number + ubuntu & see what turns up...
[06:18] <Gnimsh> I stopped using widgets cuz of that
[06:18] <arooni-mobile> how do i make jaunty's notification system NOT tell me about who is online/offline for pidgin?
[06:18] <Gnimsh> message144, is your sound set up to use pulseaudio by default, or alsa?
[06:18] <message144> glitsj16: No error messages. My guess is that FF is using the wrong soundcard, because I am using Loigitech USB headphones
[06:18] <message144> Gnimsh: I am not sure
[06:18] <Gnimsh> also, maybe make sure eveything's not muted (I know, I know, but I like to check simple things)
[06:19] <message144> My other sound works
[06:19] <robertzevs> hi
[06:19] <message144> Gnimsh: all other sound on my comp works
[06:19] <brodymcd> gnimsh: ummm... that says it is for Atheros - I have Broadcom... and it looks tough to install... I'm not yet that savvy - your advice?
[06:19] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: Plugins.
[06:19] <lasehopesinyouu> says i ahve screenlets
[06:20] <lasehopesinyouu> where's the file for it lol
[06:20] <arooni-mobile> mobi-sheep, i need more instructions than that
[06:20] <gogeta> twig11: had to perfect it
[06:20] <Gnimsh> message144, i found this on google http://clararaubertas.net/blog/no-sound-in-firefox-in-jaunty-solved/
[06:20] <gogeta> twig11: was running to quick lol
[06:20] <Gnimsh> brodymcd, I'd say its worth a shot, and its very simple
[06:20] <Gnimsh> you extract it to your home directory
[06:20] <Gnimsh> open a terminal
[06:20] <Gnimsh> cd "folder name"
[06:20] <Gnimsh> sudo make
[06:21] <Gnimsh> sudo make install
[06:21] <FloodBot2> Gnimsh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <twig11> gogeta: Okay fine
[06:21] <Gnimsh> oops
[06:21] <twig11> gogeta: you guys are amazing.
[06:21] <arooni-mobile> my t61 volume keys make the volume dialog come up on jaunty, but they adjust the Mic channel, not Master... how do i fix?
[06:21] <message144> Gnimsh: i tried that with no luck
[06:21] <lasehopesinyouu> where are the screenlets located
[06:21] <wrb123> could someone help me figure out why on a fresh install of ubuntu 9.0x home or whatever it's called, i dont have permission to run apt-get from a terminal? can i just give myself root powers somehow
[06:21] <gogeta> twig11: you just edit it in any text edtor and put your ssid and key in
[06:21] <twig11> gogeta: sure
[06:21] <gogeta> twig11: then sudo ./connect
[06:22] <gogeta> ill upload it
[06:22] <twig11> okay
[06:22] <prince_jammys> wrb123: bad idea. just use sudo, eg: sudo apt-get install some_package
[06:22] <wrb123> oh okay thank you
[06:22] <brodymcd> gnimsh - sorry to say - madwifi.org has errors wherever I click links
[06:22] <wrb123> is that SUper user DO something basically?
[06:22] <prince_jammys> wrb123: that gives you temporary root privileges
[06:22] <owen1> to start a hibrentated laptop, do i hit any key or is it the start botton?
[06:22] <lasehopesinyouu> and i tried to install counter strike it says currupt
[06:22] <wrb123> cool, thanks prince_jammys
[06:22] <ibrar> I am using wvdial to connect to internet but failed to and getting garbage data ?
[06:22] <ibrar> any tip
[06:23] <kyppcgeek> I need a job
[06:23] <ubuntu> ode.net
[06:23] <gogeta> twig11: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7065a045fa83ab690f83d91f6dff7c38e04e75f6e8ebb871
[06:23] <arooni-mobile> how do i make jaunty's notification system NOT tell me about who is online/offline for pidgin?
[06:23] <twig11> gogeta: Thanks, I'll grab it.
[06:23] <gogeta> twig11: its named connect
[06:24] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: Pidgin Plugins.
[06:24] <Gnimsh> oopshttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-madwifi-now-supports-ar2425-in-madwifi-trunk-branch.html
[06:24] <gogeta> twig11: just edit the key and ssid to yur own save and enjoy
[06:24] <Gnimsh> dang it
[06:24] <Gnimsh> brodymcd, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-madwifi-now-supports-ar2425-in-madwifi-trunk-branch.html
[06:24] <^rumput_kering^> assalamualaikum
[06:24] <twig11> gogeta: at your link it says 0 items found to display.
[06:24] <gogeta> twig11: its a bit sloppy ?
[06:25] <twig11> gogeta: there doesn't seem to be a file there.
[06:25] <gogeta> twig11: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?t5xxe2ijmkd
[06:25] <gogeta> try that
[06:25] <twig11> gogeta: aha
[06:26] <robertzevs> someone help outthere with my ubuntu 8.10..i am using terminal server client that can connect to windows server 2003..it connects but keyboard problems.mal functions
[06:26] <Gnimsh> message144, i don't know what else to try
[06:26] <gogeta> twig11: if using a gui fales that should fix you i put the down dhclient reset and all on there
[06:27] <Gnimsh> all the other folks uninstall the flashplugin-nonfree and then reinstalled it and it worked
[06:27] <Gnimsh> or install adobe flash 10
[06:27] <twig11> gogeta: You've been a huge help. Thank you.
[06:27] <gogeta> twig11: just replace my info with yours in the iwconfig line
[06:28] <gogeta> twig11: the the best looking script but it works
[06:28] <gogeta> twig11: reset my own connection using it
[06:28] <zetanuxi> is anyone here familier with vitualbox?
[06:29] <arooni-mobile> mobi-sheep, do you know the name of the offending plugin?
[06:29] <twig11> gogeta: wow that's really simple. I could do that couldn't I? Wow.
[06:29] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: Hold.
[06:29] <Gnimsh> zetanuxi, i use it a bit
[06:29] <kaveh> hey im trying to use ventrilo through virtual box, audio set and working, my microphone is a logitech usb microphone (off guitar hero . . . . dont judge me xD ) anyway, the birtual box is running windows xp and it cant see the usb microphone, anyone have any experience with it?
[06:29] <zetanuxi> Gnimsh: what OS did you install on it?
[06:29] <owen1> to start a hibrentated laptop, do i hit any key or is it the start botton?
[06:29] <Gnimsh> ubuntu 9.04
[06:29] <dialman> Anyone know why wireless networking would work in a fresh Ubuntu 9.04 install on a Dell E1505 laptop, but everytime I reboot it starts out fast (500kb/s), and over the course of 30 mins gets slower and slower until it's only ~ 5kb/s
[06:29] <Gnimsh> kaveh, make sure you have a usb controller installed on your VM
[06:29] <brodymcd> gnimsh: don't understand - wireless was working FINE out of the box, now it is being really stubborn!
[06:29] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: Libnotify Popups 0.14
[06:30] <arooni-mobile> mobi-sheep, you rock; thanks
[06:30] <Horwitz1> Is it possible for networking, wireless AND wired, to just stop working?
[06:30] <zetanuxi> you installed jaunty IN virtualbox?
[06:30] <Gnimsh> also right click the usb icon in VB bottom right and make sure its sending the usb device to your VM
[06:30] <Gnimsh> no
[06:30] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: No problem.  You wouldn't learn anything if I didn't guide you right to the end. :)
[06:30] <Gnimsh> I installed XP in virtualbox
[06:30] <Gnimsh> brodymcd, oohhh
[06:30] <mobi-sheep> ^^ If I guided you
[06:30] <arooni-mobile> mobi-sheep, you taught me how to fish ;p
[06:31] <Gnimsh> brodymcd, do you have an on/off switch for your wifi? Maybe it was hit accidentally turned off wireless
[06:31] <zetanuxi> Gnimsh: okay, thats waht im trying to do. now midway through installation, the DVD drive stops responding
[06:31] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: :)
[06:31] <brodymcd> gnimsh - i do, and it is on
[06:31] <Gnimsh> what dvd drive, zetanuxi?
[06:31] <kaveh> Gnimsh, wont installing windows xp include a usb controller?
[06:31] <Gnimsh> and you've tried restarting?
[06:31] <zetanuxi> Gnimsh: and i get a kernel panic
[06:31] <Gnimsh> it should
[06:31] <kaveh> otherwise how does any machine running xp play with usb
[06:31] <ALppcgeek> modprobe the wifi card
[06:31] <kaveh> ok i was looking and the VM isnt even seeing usb's..
[06:31] <Gnimsh> kaveh, just make sure you have one
[06:32] <kaveh> however my mouse is a usb mouse works
[06:32] <brodymcd> gnimsh - I can still see networks, and when I try to connect, it just tries forever and then fails. I have restarted... it isn't working
[06:32] <brodymcd> alppgeek - was that for me? modprobe?
[06:32] <zetanuxi> after many kernel panics, my 2.7 kernel disappeared from GRUB..........
[06:32] <Keranu> I installed Ubuntu onto my second hard drive (used the entire drive), but my PC still boots into WinXP
[06:33] <Keranu> I left the Grub installer to the default hd0
[06:33] <Anonni_Mouse> exit
[06:33] <zetanuxi> how do i restore it?
[06:33] <Keranu> Anyone know why it's doing this?
[06:33] <MRBANX> wow this channel is very busy
[06:33] <Gnimsh> Keranu, hd0 would be your first hdd, maybe that has something to do with it
[06:33] <zetanuxi> keranu: configure GRUB to choose ubuntu by default
[06:33] <assassin> how is your menu.lst saying?
[06:33] <arooni-mobile> whats the best dock program for jaunty?
[06:34] <gogeta> twig11: yep scripting is easy sleep delays it so it doesent do everything all at once
[06:34] <Keranu> My first hdd is my Windows one, I figured that's where it would need to go
[06:34] <mobi-sheep> arooni-mobile: Gnome-Do or Cairo Dock IMO.
[06:34] <Keranu> Grub doesn't boot up
[06:34] <Keranu> It just goes straight to WinXP
[06:34] <twig11> gogeta: and the number following sleep is seconds?
[06:34] <ac13> hi! I have noticed that if I set my screensaver to show at 10 minutes, I cannot tell my display to poweroff until 11 minutes have passed. any way to avoid this and have my display turn off in say 5 minutes (under battery power)?
[06:34] <assassin> error number 2?
[06:34] <gogeta> twig11: yep
[06:34] <twig11> gogeta: pretty slick
[06:34] <Gnimsh> mobi-sheep, I'm gonna have to disagree
[06:35] <qe2eqe> Is there any caveats to giving myself two hostnames?
[06:35] <zetanuxi> hmm...when XP boots, edit the boot.ini file to add the Ubuntu drive on it
[06:35] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile and mobi-sheep I love cairo dock
[06:35] <arooni-mobile> do i need to do anything if i have a t61 and intel video card?  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_9.04_(Jaunty_Jackalope)_on_a_Thinkpad_T61 says that there are regressions
[06:35] <Gnimsh> use version 1.6 if you have an ati card though
[06:35] <mobi-sheep> Gnimsh: ....
[06:35] <benjamin> HI
[06:35] <gogeta> twig11: scripts are just txt file with chmod +x to make it a script
[06:36] <Gnimsh> mobi-sheep, I LOVE gnome-do, I do. But I don't use docky cuz I find it limiting, and I'm a left dock guy
[06:36] <^Phantom^> I need help with Istanbul.  When I try to record sound, it locks up.  Every time.  What can I do to remedy this?
[06:36] <ac13> can anyone help me?
[06:36] <benjamin> i have a prob a quick google didnt help with
[06:36] <gogeta> twig11: you can script any command set
[06:36] <^Phantom^> I would like to be able to record sound.
[06:36] <twig11> gogeta: I can see that.
[06:36] <assassin> I've just downloaded a dropdown menu theme,How can I install it?
[06:36] <Gnimsh> oh god I was about to quote they might be giants at you, ^Phantom^
[06:36] <benjamin> my eeepc left click wont work (including tap)
[06:36] <kaveh> ook then
[06:36] <jeremy__> recording sound is easy
[06:36] <Keranu> zetanuxi: What would I need to type in the boot.ini?
[06:36] <benjamin> on cruncheee
[06:36] <Gnimsh> assassin, is it a targ.gz file?
[06:36] <kaveh> it would seem i dont have a usb controlelr
[06:36] <kaveh> :o
[06:36] <mobi-sheep> Gnimsh: I did said Cairo Dock.  Either way.  It benefits more when you're using both (gnome-do, not gnome-do-docky).
[06:36] <gogeta> twig11: i mean any lol dont wanna make a system killer
[06:36] <Gnimsh> ah ok
[06:36] <zetanuxi> can anyone help me with this kernel phenomenon?
[06:36] <assassin> yes
[06:37] <jeremy__> yessss
[06:37] <Gnimsh> mobi-sheep, then I apologize for ignoring you when you mentioned cairodock. and now I agree with you as well
[06:37] <MRBANX> anyone have Redeon 9000 ? i have a low graphics mode issue, its loading the driver fine, very weird
[06:37] <zetanuxi> keranu: boot.ini is the bootloader for windows. you need to point it to the boot sector on the ubuntu drive.
[06:37] <Keranu> I have boot.ini opened now
[06:37] <assassin> but the theme manager said it isn't a usable tar.gz file
[06:37] <Gnimsh> kaveh, thanks for looking :p :)
[06:37] <Shazburg> I'm looking for a little help with automating my install. Can anyone here help me?
[06:38] <kaveh> Gnimsh thanks for making me look xD, i would never have thought i dont have one :O
[06:38] <Keranu> Would I just need a line that says "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\LINUX="Ubuntu Linux" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect"
[06:38] <Keranu> ?
[06:38] <twig11> gogeta: What I wish is that there were a way to make a script like that that a standard user could launch by just clicking an icon, but with sudo it would have to have an admin password anyway so it wouldn't work. Other people use this computer a lot and they don't want to mess with the command line.
[06:38] <mobi-sheep> !automate | Shazburg
[06:38] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, did you get the dock themes some place?
[06:38] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile I use one of the default ones
[06:38] <Gnimsh> lemme see
[06:39] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, do you use it instead of bottom dock?
[06:39] <Gnimsh> yes
[06:39] <mobi-sheep> Gnimsh: Never used Cairo Dock myself but I test-drive AWN.  It was terrible. :P
[06:39] <Shazburg> A bot, eh? Not gonna cut it, ubottu.
[06:39] <Gnimsh> ya I hated awn
[06:39] <Gnimsh> ok I can't tell which theme I use without changing all of em
[06:39] <twig11> gogeta: I got disconnected there. don't know if you answered.
[06:39] <jeremy__> eh...20yrs and I'm learning the FOIL method..jeesh
[06:39] <Gnimsh> but its just a plain blackish-gray type thing
[06:39] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, how do you get it to just display current apps; not launch apps
[06:40] <gogeta> twig11: testing are you
[06:40] <Gnimsh> i'm sure that's a plugin, arooni-mobile. lemme look
[06:40] <Shazburg> mobi-sheep: Actually, I have my preseed working. Everything is great. I just need to turn off the language prompt when the installer menu first loads, so it can timeout and move on to my default.
[06:40] <gogeta> twig11: you can click on it and slect run in termel
[06:41] <twig11> gogeta: no :-) I still haven't transferred over to the ubuntu machine.
[06:41] <twig11> I'm in this chat room on my laptop.
[06:41] <gogeta> twig11: it will have the same effect
[06:41] <losher> twig11: it can be done, but I think you have to compile a C program, make it setuid root, and then have the program invoke the script....
[06:41] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile, you have way too many tab complete names
[06:41] <Gnimsh> anyway, right click the dock and go to config
[06:41] <Gnimsh> click the advanced button
[06:41] <mobi-sheep> Shazburg: That's great.  I don't know the answer to that.  Sorry.
[06:41] <iceblock> omg i just found out im human
[06:42]  * mobi-sheep test-drive cairo-dock.
[06:42] <Shazburg> mobi-sheep: Thanks for trying.
[06:42] <gogeta> twig11: ifconfig whont let you toss it into binary mode or i woulda make it a click and run
[06:42] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile, then choose the taskbar tab on the left. Check the box to display applications
[06:42] <gogeta> lol
[06:42] <twig11> iceblock: lol it's never too late to discover that
[06:42] <Gnimsh> then just drag off all your shortcuts and they'll disappear
[06:42] <ac13> hi. I need help with power management settings.
[06:42] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, i see; what other settings do you reccomend?
[06:42] <Gnimsh> none
[06:42] <Gnimsh> I hate having my apps in my dock
[06:42] <twig11> gogeta: It's fine. my hope is that I won't even need it that often.
[06:43] <Gnimsh> dock is for shortcuts, panel is for apps
[06:43] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, how do you switch between apps?
[06:43] <gogeta> heh
[06:43] <Gnimsh> alt+tab/mouse/scale and expose
[06:43] <ac13> if no one in the irc channel is going to help, where should I ask?
[06:43] <iceblock> con sequencer never seems to work why???
[06:43] <Gnimsh> ac13, ask your question in more detail
[06:43] <ac13> I did earlier:
[06:43] <gogeta> twig11: slecting run in termel when you click it should work fine
[06:43] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, oh goodies they fixed scale in jaunty;
[06:44] <ac13> hi! I have noticed that if I set my screensaver to show at 10 minutes, I cannot tell my display to poweroff until 11 minutes have passed. any way to avoid this and have my display turn off in say 5 minutes (under battery power)?
[06:44] <Gnimsh> I've been using it for a while
[06:44] <Gnimsh> 11 minutes seems to be the lowest I can make mine go as well
[06:44] <twig11> gogeta: right, but it will still ask for a password, right?
[06:44] <gogeta> yes
[06:44] <Horwitz1> I asked my question a couple of times a while back, too.
[06:44] <ac13> sorry to sound rude btw. I'm just a bit tired. and it seems like I get lost in the crowd...
[06:44] <twig11> gogeta: should work\
[06:44] <assassin> I removed the /bin/bash of Ubuntu by mistake,and I put a bash used by Arch in /bin,Will it cause any serious problems?
[06:44] <Gnimsh> no problem I've been there, ac13
[06:44] <gogeta> twig11: any program nedding sudo will
[06:44] <gogeta> even gui ones
[06:44] <mobi-sheep> Gnimsh: I think Cairo-Dock need a better __default__ theme.
[06:45] <twig11> gogeta: that's what I thought
[06:45] <iceblock> vote: should i rip robocop next or princess bride???
[06:45] <assassin> ?
[06:45] <losher> ac13: gnome or kde?
[06:45] <ac13> gnome
[06:45] <assassin> sb. help me?
[06:45] <losher> assassin: no way to tell. I would reinstall bash asap if I were you...
[06:45] <mobi-sheep> iceblock: Princess Bride.  Either way, take the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:45] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, how do i launch cairo-dock outside a terminal so it always runs?
[06:45] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, what do you put in your doc?
[06:46] <ac13> assassin: can you reinstall from apt?
[06:46] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile, go to system, preferences, startup applications
[06:46] <assassin> from apt?
[06:46] <Gnimsh> add it in there
[06:46] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, i did; but i dont wanna restart right now
[06:46] <ac13> assassin: synaptic. system->administrators->synaptic? I dunno. just a guess
[06:46] <Gnimsh> otherwise it installs to either apps>system tools or accessories
[06:46] <losher> ac13: you could try ##gnome next...
[06:46] <Gnimsh> or alt+f2 cairo-dock
[06:46] <gogeta> twig11: well that should not be a problem for other users unless they restart the pc
[06:47] <twig11> gogeta: right
[06:47] <assassin> i reinstalled from apt,nothing happend
[06:47] <gogeta> twig11: as long as wifi radar works you whont need it
[06:47] <ac13> losher: thanks I'll try that
[06:47] <Gnimsh> arooni-mobile, I only put my most used programs in my dock
[06:47] <twig11> gogeta: I hope it does. I have it installed
[06:47] <assassin> it says every pack is latest
[06:47] <echosystm> is ext4 100% stable ?
[06:48] <gogeta> echosystm: nothings 100%
[06:48] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, how do you show desktop if you get rid of bottom bar?
[06:48] <losher> assassin: you need to *reinstall* e.g. apt-get install --reinstall bash
[06:48] <gogeta> echosystm: ext4 is still under testing
[06:48] <twig11> gogeta: is there any way network-manager could interfere if it's trying to connect on startup?
[06:48] <assassin> i'll try it
[06:48] <losher> echosystm: it's unclear if ext4 is 100% stable. I would stick to ext3 for a couple more releases...
[06:48] <echosystm> ok
[06:49] <Gnimsh> bottom bar of the dock?
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, so you only put apps that you want to launch?  not currently running apps?
[06:49] <Gnimsh> well there's a show desktop button on the panel, right next to the divider.
[06:49] <gogeta> twig11: it shouldent being the script brings it down first
[06:49] <Gnimsh> right
[06:49] <Gnimsh> also scale allows me to click on the destop
[06:49] <Gnimsh> but I hate doing that
[06:49] <assassin> successful completed
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> Gnimsh, uh i dont see the show desktop button ;p
[06:49] <losher> assassin: so did it work?
[06:49] <MRBANX> anyone have Redeon 9000 ? i have a low graphics mode issue, its loading the open source driver fine, but not working correctly
[06:50] <assassin> yeah
[06:50] <twig11> gogeta: okay. will wifi radar conflict with network-manager in any way?
[06:50] <losher> assassin: cool...
[06:50] <assassin> thanks ,thank 4 everyone
[06:50] <Gnimsh> hah
[06:50] <gogeta> twig11: it brings down the card down flushes dhclient and brings it all back up
[06:51] <gogeta> twig11: oh you got network manager back well use that
[06:51] <Gnimsh> my argument for my friend who uses windows to switch is that at least when linux breaks its because I broke it, and not some random accident
[06:51] <Gnimsh> her laptop running XP had some random error causing a BSOD on boot
[06:51] <twig11> gogeta: so far I've never connected successfully with network-manager. That's why I'm hoping it isn't actually part of the problem.
[06:51] <w00ter> lol
[06:52] <w00ter> bsod
[06:52] <Gnimsh> ya
[06:52] <gogeta> twig11: your cards a odd one
[06:52] <Gnimsh> I fixed it for her
[06:52] <Horwitz1> "at least when linux breaks its because I broke it, and not some random accident" <-- Networking being the exception?
[06:52] <Gnimsh> she was going to mail it in
[06:52] <Gnimsh> Horwitz1, obviously you broke it :p
[06:52] <Gnimsh> I fixed her laptop in like 20 minutes
[06:52] <w00ter> anyone have an alfa 500mw and care to discuss the ease of setup?
[06:52] <twig11> gogeta: must be. It was very reliable on xp, it seems.
[06:53] <gogeta> twig11: yea you tryed wifi radar and didnt work
[06:53] <Horwitz1> I can't even figure out what the problem is here.
[06:53] <gogeta> twig11: heck just dhclient -r wlan0 should make any gui work
[06:53] <assassin> i've to leave, bye,comrades(just for kidding)!
[06:53] <Gnimsh> what are you trying to do Horwitz1?
[06:53] <twig11> gogeta: yeah, but remember NOTHING was working then, not even the command line.
[06:53] <Horwitz1> Lemme scroll up to what I said before...
[06:53] <owen1> to start a hibrentated laptop, do i hit any key or is it the start botton?
[06:54] <gogeta> twig11: well i didnt think dhclient was the issue it was
[06:54] <Horwitz1> "Got networking problems, but they don't seem to just involve wireless. I plugged an Ethernet cable into my laptop and the modem, which has always worked before, but not now."
[06:54] <Horwitz1> "To be COMPLETELY honest, I'm not even sure it's an Ubuntu problem -- I switched over to Vista and it couldn't connect to the Internet. Just the house network. And I don't think either of the other computers are having problems."
[06:54] <gogeta> twig11: by your pastbin after you did that it started taking commands
[06:54] <twig11> gogeta: earlier dhclient -r wlan0 wasn't helping. I'd enter my essid and key after that and iwconfig would show no essid entered at all.
[06:54] <Void> byes
[06:55] <gogeta> twig11: so what did you do
[06:55] <gogeta> twig11: by your pastebin you took the card down cleaned dhclient and brought it all back up and wala
[06:56] <Gnimsh> Horwitz1, do you get wifi connectivity?
[06:57] <gogeta> twig11: well lets hope whatever you did sticks
[06:57] <mrblanco> hello
[06:58] <twig11> gogeta: The only other thing I know I changed was as near as I can remember right before that final dhclient -r wlan0. Look at this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB11v4_(ndiswrapper) End of step 6. /etc/network/interfaces. it didn't work until I changed wireless-essid to essid and wireless-key1 to key. Could that have been the issue?
[06:59] <Horwitz1> It's picking up the network fine. It's just that when I try to CONNECT, it doesn't work.
[06:59] <mlissner> Hi, I'm having some trouble mounting a disk.
[06:59] <mlissner> I've tried the google, but to no avail, so far.
[06:59] <Gnimsh> hmmm
[07:00] <mlissner> For some reason it isn't showing up in fdisk.
[07:00] <Gnimsh> horwitz, can you describe this in like, less than 10 words?
[07:00] <mrblanco> how do i intall my web cam its A4tech
[07:00] <mlissner> Does anybody have any thoughts?
[07:00] <The_Warlock> can anybody provide me a sample xsession?
[07:00] <mlissner> I should add, it's an NTFS disk from a friend's laptop mounted with one of those adapter things.
[07:00] <Gnimsh> mlissner, did you try gparted?
[07:00] <mlissner> Gnimsh: yeah, doesn't showup
[07:01] <Gnimsh> is it unmounted?
[07:01] <Gnimsh> does it have power? etc silly things easily missed
[07:01] <mlissner> Gnimsh: It would be in fdisk if so, right?
[07:01] <Horwitz1> Gnimsh: Network detected, both wired and wireless, but not connecting.
[07:01] <mrblanco> how do i intall my web cam its A4tech
[07:01] <mlissner> Gnimsh: It has power, and is spinning.
[07:01] <Gnimsh> probably, I don't use that as much
[07:02] <twig11> gogeta: Crazy. I just rebooted and tried to launch wifi-radar from the menu. I get this error: Could not launch Wifi-radar; Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory) What's that about?
[07:02] <gogeta> twig11: man that card hates guis
[07:03] <gogeta> twig11: well try my little script sudo ./connect
[07:03] <mlissner> So no other thoughts ubuntu crowd?
[07:03] <mlissner> I gotta get this thing connected somehow.
[07:03] <mlissner> It'd be really bad if I lost it.
[07:03] <twig11> gogeta: okay I gotta transfer it over
[07:03] <gogeta> twig11: make shure your in the same dir the scripts in
[07:03] <twig11> gogeta: yep
[07:04] <Gnimsh> mlissner, add the disk mounter applet to your panel
[07:04] <mavado_> hey..
[07:04] <Gnimsh> see if any disks show up there
[07:04] <Gnimsh> probably also run through fdisk or some such but worth a shot
[07:04] <losher> mlissner: what kind of 'adapter thing' are we talking about...
[07:04] <Cryptorchild> anyone knows how to add more Microsoft font into Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Gnimsh> and try accessing it through a live cd on the host system
[07:04] <Gnimsh> Cryptorchild, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:04] <mlissner> Gnimsh: I already have that applet. So far, no evidence of any action.
[07:05] <mlissner> losher: It's one of those USB --> SATA adapers?
[07:05] <Cryptorchild> Gnimsh, and what about font we download from internet?
[07:05] <Cryptorchild> custom font actually
[07:05] <Gnimsh> dunno about that at all
[07:05] <losher> mlissner: if you run dmesg in a terminal, does it say anything about seeing the drive?
[07:05] <Gnimsh> mlissner, curious. I'd second the question about the type of adapter
[07:06] <mavado_> hey people anybody ever got this "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[07:06] <twig11> gogeta: bummer. same results as before I got it working
[07:06] <brodymcd1> ok - back again, sorry - can someone please help explain this - Ubuntu 9.04 works with my Dell lappy wifi (Broadcom) out of the box, then within 48 hours now has just stopped connecting? This happened before, then I dropped back to 8.10, now back to 9.04 and thought all was well... what is going on?
[07:06] <mavado_> i think i have all the codecs
[07:06] <mlissner> losher: yeah, dmesg reports the following relevant stuff: [105284.937238] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 111
[07:06] <mlissner> [105285.070668] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[07:06] <mlissner> [105285.072236] scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:06] <mlissner> [105285.072599] usb-storage: device found at 111
[07:06] <mlissner> [105285.072605] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[07:06] <FloodBot2> mlissner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <mlissner> [105290.073982] usb-storage: device scan complete
[07:07] <twig11> gogeta: the script worked fine but dhclient can't connect.
[07:07] <mlissner> Sorry, floodbot hates me.
[07:07] <losher> mlissner: you need to use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste more than a couple of lines. I still don't see a device name allocated....
[07:07] <gogeta> twig11: maye its to fast
[07:08] <gogeta> twig11: type iwconfig to make shure the ssid took
[07:08] <mlissner> losher: yeah, wasn't sure what the threshold was...it seems to give it sdb, I think, but that doesn't seem to get me anywhere.
[07:08] <Gnimsh> mlissner, what about accessing the hdd with a livecd from the computer it lives in?
[07:09] <twig11> gogeta: no essid. just like before. When I was typing all those commands by hand it did the same thing.
[07:09] <losher> mlissner: where does it say sdb. It's not in what you pasted...
[07:09] <gogeta> humm
[07:09] <gogeta> twig11: gimmie that pasbin url again
[07:09] <mlissner> losher: it says, [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[07:09] <gogeta> twig11: maybe i missed something
[07:09] <twig11> gogeta: I don't think I kept it.
[07:09] <mlissner> Gnimsh: that /might/ work, I guess....hadn't tried that yet.
[07:10] <gogeta> ill see f its i  my history
[07:10] <Andorin> What's the command to upgrade a program? I want VLC 1.0.
[07:10] <losher> mlissner: ok, what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb say?
[07:10] <Horwitz1> Andorin: I think it's done with apt-get.
[07:11] <twig11> gogeta: http://pastebin.com/m3cb6a0eb That should be it
[07:11] <Andorin> Oh, it says vlc is already the newest version. I guess 1.0 isn't in the repositories yet.
[07:11] <gogeta> twig11: just try the script again
[07:11] <gogeta> twig11: looks right
[07:12] <mlissner> losher: Nothing relevant, i think: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217598/
[07:12] <twig11> gogeta: if I click and select Run in Terminal it doesn't matter where I am, right?
[07:12] <gogeta> twig11: shouldent
[07:12] <duckwars> I know you will yell at me for this, but I did some quick google search and I can't find the answers... how can I create a new group, add people to that group, and check what groups a user is a part of
[07:12] <losher> mlissner: not what I asked for. I want to see fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:12] <``y7> i know this is a debian question, but nobody is responding in there... can anybody help me out with this one in here?  I'm trying to boot debian off of a USB drive (debian-live-501-amd64-gnome-desktop.img) and when it boots up, i get an error saying that the "Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0x6"... how can i go about solving this issue? Thanks.
[07:12] <Gnimsh> Horwitz1, i googled your problem
[07:12] <twig11> gogeta: same results
[07:13] <mlissner> losher: my bad. I haven't run that command yet...should I do that, or should I do the suggestion about a live CD? I have a live CD I quickly put to work?
[07:13] <Gnimsh> ``y7, maybe you can format the usb drive to ext3 or something in gparted, and then try it...though that shouldn't be needed
[07:14] <losher> mlissner: if you haven't booted the live cd yet, no harm in trying fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:14] <``y7> Gnimsh, i get the same problem when i attempt to install debian 5.01 onto the hdd.... the installation goes fine, it reboots, has me take the cd out, and then booting up, i get the same problem...
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Gnimsh: ext2 is better for usb, less write cycles
[07:14] <Gnimsh> ah interesting
[07:14] <amitprakash_> hi.. how do i install php 5.3 on hardy heron?
[07:14] <``y7> my only linux machine is the one i'm trying to get up right now ;(
[07:14] <gogeta> twig11: ok sudo iwconfig essid "ssid" sleep 5 sudo iwconfig
[07:14] <mlissner> losher: in that case, hang on a tick, I had actually started the boot before you had asked that last one...
[07:14] <Gnimsh> why not try ubuntu instead, ``y7?
[07:14] <gogeta> oops
[07:15] <``y7> Gnimsh, i was using ubuntu, but i ran into issues with it... same computer
[07:15] <tokyoahead> hi... my thunderbird shows tdates in the message list as "Monday, July 13, 2009 09:39 AM", but I want a simple 09:39 2009/07/13 instead. How can I change the format? Anyhow I do not understand why it's US format (AM/PM)  when the OS is all 24 hrs format...
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: does the cd pass self check?
[07:15] <gogeta> twig11: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "ssid"
[07:15] <losher> mlissner: never mind. You'll end up running it when the live cd boots anyway...
[07:15] <``y7> ActionParsnip, i don't know how to check that
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: did you burn the cd slowly
[07:15] <``y7> ActionParsnip: how can i check that for you?
[07:15] <gogeta> twig11: maybe the card cant do both at once
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: on first boot screen select check cd for defects
[07:15] <``y7> ActionParsnip, i don't know your definitely of slowly, but it was 30x
[07:16] <hsu> after login, my screen is whole white
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: you should also md5 check all iso files you download
[07:16] <mlissner> losher: OK, I'm actually running a live USB drive, and it's booted, with fdisk recognizing the disk.
[07:16] <hsu> how can i solve this problem
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: bun as slow as the meia will allow, 8x is advised, 4x if you can
[07:16] <Horwitz1> Gnimsh: And?
[07:16] <``y7> ActionParsnip, i'll give it a shot. thanks for the help
[07:16] <gogeta> twig11: and sudo iwconfig
[07:16] <amitprakash_> hi.. how do i install php 5.3 on hardy heron?
[07:16] <Gnimsh> not much luck :(
[07:16] <mlissner> I guess I need NTFS-3g tools, and then I can mount the drive?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: try turnng hardware off in bios too
[07:17] <hsu> can only use tty1-tty6
[07:17] <losher> mlissner: you need to download the ntfs tools next, then you should be able to mount it
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: and press f6 on the first boot screen to disable apic acpi and dma
[07:17] <Horwitz1> I'm currently in HP tech support, too.
[07:17] <billenium> is there any program in ubuntu that visits a URL once?
[07:17] <hsu> my graphic card geForce 9300M  ASUS F8SG
[07:17] <billenium> via command line
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> hsu: in tty run:   less /var/lof/xorg.log.0
[07:17] <Gnimsh> Horwitz1, don't tell them you use linux
[07:18] <Gnimsh> also who is your ISP?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> lof == log
[07:18] <twig11> gogeta: It simply doesn't retain the essid: off/any
[07:18] <Horwitz1> Gnimsh: Comcast, I think. And I already did. Why?
[07:18] <twig11> gogeta: just crazy
[07:18] <losher> billenium: do you mean wget? curl? 'lynx -dump' ?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> hsu: its a known ut with nvidia cards, there is a way to get it sorted. i am just not sure how
[07:19] <owen1> to start a hibrentated laptop, do i hit any key or is it the start botton?
[07:19] <``y7> ActionParsnip, it actually has all of those issues with the usb drive... so do i need to re-burn the cd still?
[07:19] <gogeta> ???
[07:19] <hsu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:19] <billenium> losher: ill try some of them thanks :)
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: check the iso with md5 sum, you may have a bad  file
[07:19] <billenium> but no, not like wget
[07:20] <mlissner> losher: is there any clever mount arguments I need to use to mount ntfs?
[07:20] <zomation> Hey need some help here
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: then burn slowly and then boot to the cd, then run the self test
[07:20] <``y7> k, ty
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> ``y7: if its ok, try a boot. if not use boot options
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> ~ask |  zomation
[07:20] <gogeta> twig11: try sudo ndiswrapper -m
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !ask | zomation
[07:20] <gogeta> twig11: then the script
[07:21] <twig11> gogeta: now I'm completely flummoxed. I typed the whole string of commands in again and it worked.
[07:21] <twig11> gogeta: without sudo ndiswrapper -m
[07:21] <gogeta> twig11: so the scripts to fast
[07:21] <zomation> I have a toshiba satellite computer with a 802.11b/g wireless card and i can't connect to the internet
[07:21] <losher> billenium: then I guess you need to describe your requirements more fully...
[07:21] <zomation> i have ubuntu 8
[07:21] <gogeta> twig11: change sleep 5 to 10 on all of them
[07:21] <twig11> gogeta: AND I'm typing it too fast some of the time?
[07:22] <twig11> gogeta: Because it doesn't always work when I do it manually.
[07:22] <gogeta> twig11: no the script was orignal to fast for my pc
[07:22] <zomation> hello?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> zomation: do you see ssid's if you run: sudo iwconfig scan
[07:22] <gogeta> twig11: i slowed it  down maybe you need it slower
[07:22] <Andorin> Is there a binary out for Firefox 3.5?
[07:22] <losher> mlissner: no, just try mounting it. I can't remember if it will autodetect the mount type...
[07:22] <Andorin> Or a .deb, rather?
[07:22] <billenium> opps losher
[07:22] <billenium> i lied... wget worked fine...
[07:22] <zomation> only eithernet
[07:23] <Samich_> fccf: Hello again!
[07:23] <Frogzoo> wget always works fine
[07:23] <zomation> i think its a driver problem but i don't know a solution
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> zomation: just because no one replys does not give you warrant to start bugging with "hello"
[07:23] <losher> billenium: cool...
[07:23] <Shazburg> Andorin: firefox-3.5
[07:23] <zomation> hehe... its just what i do...
[07:23] <Shazburg> Andorin: apt-get install firefox-3.5
[07:23] <twig11> gogeta: What I'm saying is if it is a speed issue, does it actually need to run slow enough that I would have to slow down even if I'm entering it by hand? hard to believe but  entering it by hand doesn't always work, so if speed is the issue...
[07:23] <mlissner> losher: OK, I think it worked.
[07:23] <Andorin> Shazburg: Thx.
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> zomation: we help or free here so we do our best, simply ask then wait a while, then re-ask
[07:23] <losher> mlissner: df -h will confirm the mount
[07:23] <gogeta> twig11: once you change sleep save it and run it agin see if all is well then
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> zomation: ok can you use pastebin to provide the output of:
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> zomation: sudo lshw -C network
[07:24] <zomation> Ya im in vista now
[07:24] <zomation> can't do that
[07:24] <Shazburg> Andorin: You bet. It sits alongside your existing 3.0 install. I opted to leave 3.0 alone and manually relink firefox to firefox-3.5.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> zomation: then run:  sudo lshw -C neywork > ~/output.txt
[07:25] <zomation> did that before and got  unclaimed
[07:25] <Samich_> I am having issues with sound on my USB Headset. Along with Flash Sound.
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> zomation: and copy the file to usb
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> zomation: i don't need that line, i want what the chip is
[07:25] <zomation> brb
[07:25] <Andorin> Shazburg: How is 3.5, in your opinion?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> zomation: use a wired connection until you get on your feet
[07:25] <Shazburg> Andorin: You'll see it as "Shiretoko" in your gnome menus.
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> zomation: its way easier
[07:25] <Shazburg> Andorin: Same as 3.0, only more so.
[07:25] <amitprakash_> hi.. how do i install php 5.3 on hardy heron?
[07:25] <ESphynx> Hi guys, do you think I can trust Ubuntu 9.04 to resize an ntfs partition without losing the data on it?
[07:26] <Andorin> Shazburg: What the? It's Shiretoko web browser now?
[07:26] <amitprakash_> ESphynx, think so
[07:26] <mobi-sheep> ESphynx: Make the backup first.
[07:26] <ESphynx> mobi-sheep I'd have to somehow get samba working and transfer 40 gb to get the backup done so... if the chances of success are > 90% ...
[07:27] <mobi-sheep> ESphynx: No big deal.  I backed up 200GB today. :3
[07:27] <Shazburg> Andorin: That's the project name for it at Mozilla. The firefox-3.5 package hasn't been rebranded. Debian and Mozilla are having a pissing match, so it's up to the Ubuntu guys to put the branding back.
[07:27] <The_Warlock> how do i make the following command run when my gnome session starts up in ubuntu 9.04
[07:27] <ESphynx> i'm mostly worried about some dome GUI code not actually saving the data
[07:27] <The_Warlock> xrdb -load .Xdefaults
[07:27] <gogeta> twig11: the script was to fast orignaly just change the sleep commands to 10
[07:27] <twig11> gogeta: woohoo. Works again. and I have an embarrassing confession to make which I will introduce with the dislaimer that it's 1:30 am here. Up until this last time I had forgotten to edit your script with my info. no wonder.
[07:27] <Andorin> Shazburg: Alright. How do I manually link 3.5 to the firefox command?
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> Shazburg: What pissing match? o.O
[07:28] <gogeta> twig11: lLOLOLOLOLOL
[07:28] <gogeta> twig11: -1
[07:28] <Spad-XIII> i'm having trouble with my laptop network (both wired and wireless) yesterday i booted up, wired worked just fine, wireless doesn't. today i boot up, wired doesn't work and wireless locks the whole laptop (nothing responds, have to press and hold power button for +4seconds to shutdown) the drivers all work, because it has connected to a wireless network on saturday (not mine though, but similar setup, just different router/password)
[07:28] <amitprakash_> hi.. how do i install php 5.3 on hardy heron?
[07:28] <twig11> gogeta: Thanks a million. I'm going to bed now.
[07:29] <Shazburg> Andorin: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[07:29] <kaveh> ok im back :P, my windows xp guest in VM has usb controllers, my virtualbox has usb enabled, has a filter for a logitech microphone all good... and still it does not see the microphone (the usb icon says "no usb attached" - anyone have any ideas?
[07:29] <Andorin> Shazburg: Thank you. :)
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: instead run: sudo /etc/init/d/networking stop; sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart; sleep 5; sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:29] <Shazburg> mobi-sheep: It has to do with Mozilla changing the license for the Firefox name and logos. Technically, it's no longer free. Debian don't play that, so now they call it "IceWeasel".
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: hard shutdowns arent good for your hardware
[07:29] <Shazburg> Andorin: You bet.
[07:30] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: i know, but nothing responds, not the mouse, not even numlock ..
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: can you ssh in?
[07:30] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: it doesn't have network :)
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: i'd get an output of dmesg, one when wifiworks, one when wired works, and comare
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: I'd check your ram
[07:32] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: i've never had wifi work at my place .. it keeps asking about the wpa2-password or locks up ..
[07:32] <Shazburg> mobi-sheep: You can get more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceApe
[07:32] <mobi-sheep> Shazburg: Thanx.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: check your hard drive from live cd too with fsck
[07:32] <amitprakash_> hi.. how do i install php 5.3 on hardy heron/8.04?
[07:32] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: just ran your commands, but it won't connect the wired network .. yesterday i had no problems at all..
[07:33] <gogeta> adam7: heh that was fun -1 for forgetting to edit
[07:33] <gogeta> lol
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> amitprakash_: apt-cache search php | grep 5.3
[07:33] <phishie> is there an option for the 'top' command to see both my processors?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> amitprakash_: if that yields no clues: apt-cache search php | less
[07:34] <amitprakash_> ActionParsnip, err.. its not there in the standard repos yet
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: i'd get your ram and drive/s checked, make sure they are healthy
[07:34] <amitprakash_> ActionParsnip, i only see 5.2.4 in the repo
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> amitprakash_: err.. i don't know that
[07:34] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: i'm booting from live usb now ..
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> amitprakash_: then you need a PPA with it on, or  compile source
[07:34] <amitprakash_> ActionParsnip, :) which is why i specifically asked for a version =)
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> amitprakash_: i'm sorry i do not know what version number every package on the official repos is currently at. i will revise later....
[07:35] <Jar_> When you assign a Static Ip/gateway via the GUI. Where is the data kept? My /etc/network/interfaces didn't change.
[07:35] <amitprakash_> ActionParsnip, :/
[07:35] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: but they should be allright .. i've been running windows on it since i bought it earlier this year without problems or lockups .. the lockup only happens when it tries to connect to my wireless and only since this last week
[07:35] <Gnimsh> time for bed
[07:35] <topher_> How do you enable Compiz?
[07:35] <Gnimsh> gnight everyone, and good luck!
[07:35] <topher_> I'm new to Ubuntu... :D
[07:36] <Gnimsh> topher, install ccsm from synaptic
[07:36] <topher_> Gnimsh, mind giving me a link?
[07:36] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: lol wanna a text mode
[07:36] <Gnimsh> also go to system>preferences>appearances and then the effects tab
[07:36] <topher_> I wold appreciate it!
[07:36] <topher_> :D
[07:36] <Guest60983> Hey im back with my results from the sudo command.
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Jar_: if the system is to always use static IP, i'd use the interfaces file and uninstall network manager, makes your system boot faster and run less processes
[07:36] <Gnimsh> its in synaptic you don't need a link
[07:36] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: lol, i boot up from live-usb and the wired network works just fine ....
[07:36] <Guest60983> should i just paste it in
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | topher_
[07:36] <Gnimsh> system>administration>package manager
[07:36] <Gnimsh> search for ccsm
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: then check its dmesg as well as the output of: sudo lsh -C network
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: see how it differsto the installed system
[07:37] <topher_> Is there a key code I have to use to make it switch?
[07:37] <Gnimsh> topher_, also in system>prefs>appearance go to the effects tab and choose what kind of effects you want
[07:37] <Gnimsh> switch like the cube?
[07:37] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: try iwconfig wlan0 essid "yourssid" key "yorkey"
[07:37] <Jar_> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I am having trouble with a box of mine. I got a tech to install it for me. He used the GUI to assign a static IP which killed my squid install. How can I uninstall the network manager but keep access to SSH open?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: i'd also check your harddrive
[07:37] <gogeta> sudo
[07:37] <topher_> Yeah
[07:37] <zomation> seandude@seandude-laptop:~$ sudo lshw -C network
[07:37] <zomation>   *-network
[07:37] <zomation>        description: Ethernet interface
[07:37] <zomation>        product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[07:37] <zomation>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[07:37] <FloodBot2> zomation: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:37] <zomation>        physical id: 0
[07:38] <Gnimsh> topher_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429231
[07:38] <evaro> I just installed ifort. What is the most probable path to the new application?
[07:38] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: lsh -C network, using the live-usb says that lsh isn't installed .. how fun
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Jar_: you will need to populate the interfaces file, then you can simply uninstall network manager like any other app
[07:38] <Gnimsh> that's all I got, need to get some sleep
[07:38] <bluejeans> how to unlock apt database? ?? (no, there are no other applications currently accessing it)
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> zomation: ok great now you have something to search for
[07:38] <Jar_> ActionParsnip: Ahh thanks for that. I will give that a crack.
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> zomation: It's a RTL8101E chip
[07:38] <zomation> sorry for flooding
[07:38] <gogeta> bluejeans: synaptic is good for not closing type ps -A in a term see if its still running
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt > bluejeans
[07:38] <zomation> ???
[07:39] <zomation> link to sudo output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217611/
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> zomation: something like a websearch of     RTL8101E ubuntu     should give good results
[07:39] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'll try after checking the logs.. it should work though, using the networkmanager as it finds the ssid, and the password is correct
[07:39] <bluejeans> gogeta: thanks.. but haven't even opened synaptic yet..
[07:39] <zomation> thanks
[07:40] <gogeta> bluejeans: did you sudo
[07:40] <gogeta> lol
[07:40] <gogeta> sudo apt-get
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> zomation: looks like you  need this too: http://www.zyxware.com/articles/628/get-atheros-ar242x-802-11abg-wireless-driver-working-in-ubuntu
[07:41] <zomation> thanks again
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> zomation: np man
[07:41] <zomation> bye
[07:41] <gogeta> heh juging by that response he didnt
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: you just need to see whats different, maybe one device is using a different module, or different module settings
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Spad-XIII: maybe dmesg shows something different
[07:42] <bluejeans> gogeta: turns out is WAS synaptic.. even though i have never opened it.. was the auto-updates that were crashing the backend
[07:42] <bluejeans> thanks
[07:43] <gogeta> bluejeans: heh yea its relly good for that normaly ps -A shows its still running
[07:43] <Spad-XIII> ActionParsnip: i got the dmesg output saved from the live-usb .. but the lsh isn't really working on the live .. it works fine on the installed
[07:43] <gogeta> anytime apt failes
[07:44] <gogeta> bluejeans: you can eyther sudo killl its pid number or sudo killall synaptic
[07:44] <bluejeans> gogeta: good to know. i'm not used to using package managers.. blah. funner to do manually
[07:45] <Shazburg> bluejeans: says you.
[07:45] <mkelkar> has anyone found solution to fix fan running issue on ubuntu 9.04
[07:45] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi any way to view windows backup files on linux?
[07:45] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[07:45] <SmoKeyCastle> specifically i want to view a backup of the contents of my HD that i made a backup of using vista
[07:45] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: what file extension are those again?
[07:46] <mazda01> i have added a line in the amarokrc but it's still not using mysql
[07:46] <gogeta> bluejeans: heh says you
[07:46] <gogeta> bluejeans: apt-get just rocks
[07:46] <mkelkar> has anyone found solution to fix fan running issue on ubuntu 9.04
[07:47] <SmoKeyCastle> .vhd file
[07:47] <gogeta> mkelkar: dunno
[07:47] <gogeta> mkelkar: way to vag to give a answer
[07:47] <bluejeans> gogeta: Shazburg: ok ok. slackware for me.
[07:47] <mazda01> bluejeans, aptitude rocks more than apt-get
[07:47] <mazda01> anyone use amarok and mysql?
[07:47] <gogeta> bluejeans: slackware heh linux hard mode
[07:48] <bluejeans> .. but interesting
[07:48] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I upgraded to 9.04 on Dell D630. since upgrade, I notice that fan keeps running
[07:48] <gogeta> bluejeans: great for a old machine tho
[07:48] <bluejeans> .. or a new one too
[07:48] <mazda01> or have a way to save out the album art from amarok's folder so each folder of my music collection get a .jpg for that album?
[07:48] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: I'm afraid you'll have to get Vista out to view that file. You could install it inside VirtualBox.
[07:49] <SmoKeyCastle> ah :( thanks
[07:49] <gogeta> mkelkar: i would look up that on google maybe someone has made a power mangment scrpit for it
[07:49] <Shazburg> bluejeans: Bob be with you, then.
[07:49] <gogeta> mkelkar: i knoe for all netbooks they do
[07:49] <jorge_> solo ingles
[07:50] <gogeta> mkelkar: strangly enough 9.04 on my c610 the fan hardly ever runs
[07:50] <Shazburg> SmoKeyCastle: The older NT/XP format (.bkf) file can be read with Mtftar, but no dice on the Vista format, afaik.
[07:50] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I found few posts.. but none of them seem to fix the issue
[07:51] <SmoKeyCastle> thanks Shazburg
[07:51] <leave> yep
[07:51] <Frogzoo> is it worth ugprading from 8.04 to 9.04 ??
[07:51] <gogeta> mkelkar: look in power settings maybe you can tweak it
[07:51] <[R]> Frogzoo: well everytihng is a whole year newer
[07:51] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I use to have this issue on 8.10 and turned out to be nvidia drive issue
[07:51] <leave> Frogzoo, Of course
[07:51] <jorge_> i can use automatix
[07:51] <mkelkar> and I downgraded to 177 and it fixed it
[07:52] <Shazburg> Frogzoo: Depends on your needs.
[07:52] <Frogzoo> sure sure, but for instance, 9.10 was considered more grief than benefit
[07:52] <gogeta> mkelkar: oh the nivida fan is running
[07:52] <Frogzoo> er 8.10 heh
[07:52] <gogeta> mkelkar: maybe you can apply the same fix
[07:52] <leave> 9.04 works fine
[07:52] <mkelkar> gogeta -- tried that
[07:52] <mkelkar> doesn't work
[07:52] <Shazburg> Frogzoo: I haven't had any problems with 9.04, buy ymmv.
[07:52] <Frogzoo> nice nice, thanks guys
[07:53] <Guest63336> yo yo
[07:53] <leave> yeye
[07:53] <gogeta> mkelkar: there is a fan controle deamon for dells the name slips me
[07:53] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[07:54] <gogeta> mkelkar: i8kfanGUI
[07:54] <gogeta> mkelkar: worked on my c610 befor ubuntu auto handeled it
[07:55] <mkelkar> gogeta -- how to use it
[07:55] <Spad-XIII> argh, i reboot from live to installed and now wired network works ..
[07:55] <gogeta> mkelkar: its a gui so
[07:55] <gogeta> mkelkar: you can set the fan speeds etc
[07:55] <mkelkar> gogeta -- let me try..
[07:56] <gogeta> mkelkar: look synaptic for that
[07:56] <mkelkar> ok
[07:56] <gogeta> i8kfan
[07:56] <gogeta> should find a gui as well
[07:57] <Anirban1987> How to view the processes like LAMP are running on ubuntu or not from shell ?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> Anirban1987: htop I guess
[07:58] <nevyn> Anirban1987: umm.. can you explain what you're trying to work out?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> Anirban1987: also, /etc/init.d/### status
[07:58] <gogeta> mkelkar: its i8kutils now
[07:59] <gogeta> mkelkar: dont love how they always rename stuff
[07:59] <mkelkar> gogeta -- yeah, that's true
[07:59] <[R]> Anirban1987: "lamp" isn't a process
[07:59] <gogeta> mkelkar: i auume the one marked gk is a gui
[07:59] <gogeta> just search for i8k
[08:00] <hhhhhhhhh> low
[08:00] <zetheroo> sharing printers over a samba network is really glitchy
[08:00] <leave> high
[08:01] <Anirban1987>  How to view the processes like LAMP are running on ubuntu or not from shell ?
[08:01] <leave> ps -aux
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> haha ubuntu makes me :)
[08:01] <[R]> Anirban1987: like i already told you...
[08:01] <jared__> hello guys... how can i make Sugar work on Jaunty ?
[08:01] <[R]> [11:59:14] [R] Anirban1987: "lamp" isn't a process
[08:01] <gogeta> mkelkar: i see i8kutils and gkrealm-i8k as i said  gk must be the gui
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> first 6 hours and im enjoying it
[08:01] <jorge_> how get automatix
[08:01] <lasehopesinyouu> wish it played my games better though
[08:01] <zetheroo> is there a more fool-proof method for printing remotely?
[08:01] <gogeta> mkelkar: defetly does what you whant to do tho
[08:02] <nevyn> zetheroo: cups
[08:02] <Anirban1987> [r] : Ok , I want to mean whether bind, FTP , HTTP, mail server are working or not.
[08:02] <zetheroo> ﻿nevyn: is that printing through a browser?
[08:02] <mkelkar> gogeta -- I see only i8kutils
[08:02] <nevyn> Anirban1987: ps aux|grep 'linux|httpd|mysql|php'
[08:02] <lasehopesinyouu> why dont my widgets stay though
[08:02] <gogeta> mkelkar: only search for i8k
[08:03] <nevyn> Anirban1987: but I'm pretty sure that's not actually going to solve whatever problem you have.
[08:03] <gogeta> mkelkar: in quick search
[08:03] <Conner> I have a question
[08:03] <mazda01> is anyone aware how get amarok 2.1.1 in jaunty to use mysql? there's no setting within the gui settings?
[08:03] <Conner> about ubuntu
[08:03] <[R]> Anirban1987: so try to use them
[08:03] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found it
[08:03] <Shazburg> Conner: Ask.
[08:03] <mazda01> i have added a line in the amarokrc but it's still not using mysql
[08:03] <[R]> Conner: thats kinda the topic of this channel...
[08:03] <Conner> alright
[08:04] <Conner> Are any NVIDIA drivers unsupported for ubuntu?
[08:04] <Shazburg> Conner: Yes. There are open source ones, as well as the official drivers from Nvidia.
[08:04] <gogeta> mkelkar: heh in old ubuntu my c610 fan would just never turn on so i used i8k and a script to keep restting it a bios bug
[08:05] <gogeta> mkelkar: now it works fine
[08:05] <mkelkar> gogeta -- let me give it a shot
[08:05] <mkelkar> will update you
[08:05] <Shazburg> Conner: If you are using Gnome, you can go to "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers" and it should automagically detect you have an NVidia card and offer you the official drivers to install.
[08:06] <Conner> OK, Well I have a NVIDIA GeForce 8200m graphics card. Everytime i install ubuntu and try to install it, ubuntu gives an error.
[08:06] <gogeta> mkelkar: with any luck it supports your model :)
[08:06] <Shazburg> Paste the error into paste.ubuntu.com and link it here.
[08:07] <mkelkar> gogeta -- how to invoke it
[08:07] <gogeta> mkelkar: no gui?
[08:07] <Conner> I would do that, but i am not in ubuntu, and i reformated my drive.
[08:07] <mkelkar> nope
[08:07] <Spad-XIII> lsh is not installed?? .. pff, that command should be lshw .. i've been reading too many pages the past week.. heh
[08:07] <Shazburg> Conner: That'll make this a little harder to solve then, I suppose.
[08:07] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found it
[08:08] <Shazburg> Conner: What do you remember about the error?
[08:08] <gogeta> mkelkar: lol
[08:08] <gogeta> mkelkar: was abought to say cheeck system
[08:08] <leave> sounds good
[08:08] <mkelkar> gogeta -- found under application system tools
[08:09] <Conner> Well, all i get is a box and a red circle and a white line thru it (error icon) No text
[08:09] <Shazburg> Conner: Hrmmm... don't know that one off the top of my head.
[08:09] <chans> hey can someone check to see if i set up my site correctly? http://KnowingTheUnknown.us.to:8080/Wonderland/
[08:09] <leave> 能让你心疼的姑娘
[08:09] <gogeta> !jp
[08:10] <leave> 你们能看见我写的没有
[08:10] <leave> No chinese
[08:10] <quibbler> !cn
[08:10] <gogeta> !cn
[08:10] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: when i try your iwconfig-command, it gives me an error: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : invalid argument "mykey". (with mykey replaced with the actual key..)
[08:10] <jorge_> algien habla español
[08:10] <Conner> After these problems I tried to use the terminal instal with the driver download from the NVIDIA site. That does not  work either
[08:10] <leave> ....
[08:10] <zsolty_> hi, please advise me! when I'm trying to watch in fullscreen a movie from youtube my gnome is restarting. From where I can trace this issue? In witch log file?
[08:10] <chans> nvm, someone else verified that it works
[08:10] <leave> here is fine
[08:11] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 would be your real card adress
[08:11] <leave> I like this place
[08:11] <gogeta> hight be ath0
[08:11] <gogeta> might
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it's wlan0 indeed
[08:11] <Shazburg> Conner: Did you see any errors from X in your logs?
[08:11] <gogeta> just typing iwconfig will tell you
[08:11] <gogeta> ok
[08:11] <gogeta> you using wep or wpa
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> the essid is set indeed
[08:11] <Spad-XIII> wpa
[08:11] <gogeta> ok
[08:11] <Conner> it says i do not have permissions, but i was running it in root
[08:12] <leave> Just for test how many know that
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> wpa/wpa2 is set in the router with wpa-personal
[08:12] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 enc "yourhey"
[08:12] <gogeta> your key
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: is that with or without " ?
[08:12] <leave> gogeta, what key?
[08:12] <gogeta> with
[08:12] <gogeta> "
[08:12] <Spad-XIII> same error
[08:13] <Shazburg> Conner: I'm sorry, but it's just not enough to work off. If you decide to try again, I'm sure someone could help you while you have the system running.
[08:13] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: sounds like the driver does not support keys
[08:13] <gogeta> try without "
[08:13] <empiric> guys i want to install ubuntu from USB on my laptop i have ISO with me
[08:13] <gogeta> sometimes that works
[08:13] <empiric> any idea?
[08:13] <Conner> Thank you Shazburg.
[08:14] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: still same error ..
[08:14] <Shazburg> Conner: You're welcome. I'm sorry I couldn't offer you a solution.
[08:14] <Conner> Just one mor thing to add. I have tried other distros to see compatability, and none have been compatable with my Graphics card.
[08:14] <rww> !usb | empiric
[08:15] <mkelkar> gogeta -- what were your settings for temp
[08:15] <Shazburg> Conner: Have you checked with the NVidia site to see if your card is supported by the drivers?
[08:15] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it's using ath9k as the driver (running from live-usb now).. card is: Atheros AR928X
[08:15] <rww> empiric: personally, I've used and would recommend unetbootin, which is detailed in the second section of "Automatic Approaches"
[08:16] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: the funny thing is, it worked right off the bat (first boot/time only) with a different router (which was also setup in wpa-personal with wpa/wpa2 mode)
[08:16] <Conner> Yes, i put im my card information and os information (used linux 32bit, because i would use ubuntu x86) and it gave me a driver to download
[08:16] <DVA5912> http://pasteme.pastebin.com/m388486c4 im getting this error. what package do i need to install
[08:17] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: from what i read iwconfig can not handel wpa2
[08:17] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it should handel wpa though?
[08:18] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: well if its getting the essid your gui should work
[08:18] <Shazburg> Conner: I'm just stabbing in the dark, but it sounds like either a bad card or an issue with the drivers.
[08:18] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: because my router uses the highest-available encryption .. so if wpa2 doesn't work, it falls back to wpa .. i've tried setting it to wpa-only, but that didn't help
[08:18] <zsolty_> hi, please advise me! when I'm trying to watch in fullscreen a movie from youtube my gnome is restarting. From where I can trace this issue? In witch log file?
[08:18] <Ali_nz> hoe do i search for a file with wild cards?
[08:19] <[R]> Ali_nz: with the find command
[08:19] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: are you using a word phrase or numbers
[08:19] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: word with numbers and small and capitals
[08:19] <Anirban> When I am trying to install ufw by "sudo apt-get install ufw" having following error : http://pastebin.ca/1494428
[08:19] <Spad-XIII> no fancy characters
[08:19] <Conner> I personally believe it is a bad card. I have wanted to install osx-86 and found out that my card was unsupported. Because this is mac i figured if it wont work for that then its probably not going to work for linux.
[08:20] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: ok sudo iwconfig wlan0 key s:yourkey
[08:20] <Ali_nz> thnks
[08:20] <progre55> hi people! yesterday, while playing CS on a laptop connected to an external screen, the system crashed, and now when I boot, it says that "ubuntu is runnin on low graphics mode". When I remove xorg.conf, it boots okay, but I dont have those "acceleration metod   uxa", etc.. any suggestions what might be causing this, please?
[08:20] <gogeta> thats for asciikey
[08:21] <progre55> I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but doesnt help..
[08:21] <Ali_nz> and what about including the dir location in the results?
[08:21] <gogeta> thats s: with no space
[08:22] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: same error ..
[08:22] <gogeta> so s:mykey
[08:22] <gogeta> wtf
[08:22] <Hilikus> how do i modify a rule in ufw? i have a limit rule but i want to change the threshold
[08:22] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: it worked before?
[08:22] <leonbrussels> Hi. I just got one of the intel atom boards for my mum and just transplanted the HDD from her old computer. However, suspend does not work. The thing turns off, the power led does not blink, when I turn it on the screen doesn't turn on. Hibernate works fine. I am thinking it could be because I fiddled around with the suspend scripts back in the day when I tried fixing suspend on her old machine. Is there any way to "reset" all the sus
[08:22] <leonbrussels> pend scripts?
[08:23] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it hasn't work at my place .. but i had a working wifi connection with a different router somewhere else
[08:23] <Shazburg> Conner: While OSX uses a totally different graphics solution (Quartz), I would say that if you think you have a bad video card, then you probably have a bad card. You might be able to get X going with a generic display driver.
[08:23] <[R]> leonbrussels: well first you would need to know what you 'fiddled' with
[08:23] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: probly wasent encrypted if i rember the ath5k driver does not support keys
[08:23] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i used networkmanager to set the key in both places .. i tried wicd (or wcid?) as well, didn't work
[08:24] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: yea but wpa2 has issue with alot of drivers
[08:24] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'm using the ath9k driver .. and the other working network was definately encrypted (i set it up as well.. different router)
[08:24] <gogeta> they where probly wep
[08:24] <leonbrussels> [R]: I have no idea, it was about a year ago, I just forgot :(
[08:24] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: have you tryd nidswrapper or the madwifi set
[08:24] <Conner> Thank you Shazburg for your support. Ubuntu has not failed me yet, as i will install it on an older build as soon as i get a new HDD. Thank you again Shazburg
[08:24] <[R]> leonbrussels: easiest thing would be to reinstall... seeing as if its over a year ago its pretty old and crusty anyway
[08:25] <leave> leonbrussels, Nandflash
[08:25] <[R]> leonbrussels: the newer versions work much better with susepdn anyway
[08:25] <Shazburg> Conner: You bet.
[08:25] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i haven't tried ndiswrapper no, the madwifi i checked out a bit, but couldn't find any instruction-sites newer than 2006 .. :\
[08:25] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: so its sees the network but will not accept the key correct
[08:25] <Hilikus> where does ufw store its rules
[08:25] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: yea, it finds networks just fine .. it just won't accept the key here
[08:25] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: in ubuntu hardware it should ask if you whant to use them
[08:26] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: System -> Admin -> hardware drivers ?
[08:26] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: yes
[08:26] <Anirban>  When I am trying to install ufw by "sudo apt-get install ufw" having following error : http://pastebin.ca/1494428
[08:26] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: that only lists the nvidia drivers
[08:26] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: or chnage your key to all numbers that seems to work even in wpa
[08:27] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: nice, i'll try that one
[08:28] <crazy6> what is starting wpa_supplicant in the background? something related to dbus? I am trying to manually configure my wireless since KNetworkManager is hopelessly broken
[08:28] <leonbrussels> [R]: I am on jaunty. Is there really no way to reinstall the powermanagement? Everything else i working a charm so I don't really want to reinstall...
[08:28] <Spad-XIII> brb
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: how could it have been a year ago then?
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: well there is no package called 'powermanagement'
[08:28] <[R]> leonbrussels: so unless you know what you screwed around with
[08:29] <Kartagis> is it possible with rar to create volumes to fit on a dvd? what should the -v parameter be?
[08:29] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: the driver might not support acssi sttyle
[08:29] <Shazburg> leonbrussels: For the future, you may want to get familiar with etckeeper.
[08:29] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i just changed the key .. will check if it connects using networkmanager
[08:29] <leonbrussels> [R]: Well I updated to jaunty using the update function... and I think the package is pm-utils but if I try to remove --purge it it wants to remove all of my video drivers :(
[08:30] <ysis> Hi, how can I manually enforce a readout of ~/.profile (so I won't have to restart or anything)?
[08:30] <[R]> ysis: use the source command
[08:30] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: you might have to delete the old auto connect to get it to as for a new key
[08:30] <Shazburg> ysis: source ~/.profile
[08:30] <leonbrussels> Shazburg: Good point, would save me a lot of troubles I have had in the past :)
[08:30] <gogeta> ask
[08:31] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: i'm still in the live-usb .. i didn't try making a connection just yet ..
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <Tommy26_> PENIS
[08:31] <FloodBot2> Tommy26_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it just locked up again :(
[08:31] <Shazburg> ysis: But don't make a habit of using it too many times or you'll end up with a $PATH the length of the Amazon.
[08:31] <iamslango> so, I accidentally deleted my /etc/apache2 directory
[08:32] <iamslango> which is no big deal
[08:32] <Shazburg> iamslango: For you, maybe.
[08:32] <iamslango> I reinstalled apache2-common
[08:32] <iamslango> got almost everything back
[08:32] <grawity> Shazburg: Not if your .profile rebuilds the $PATH from scratch.
[08:32] <shaullx> i deleted the installed apps shortcut from wine menu how can i get it back?
[08:32] <iamslango> but /etc/apache2/ENVVARS is not coming back...
[08:33] <ysis> Shazburg, thanks! I vaguely remembered something like this but wasn't quite sure...
[08:33] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: it seems like it just doesn't want to connect at all
[08:34] <echosystm> is it just me or does ubuntu boot incredibly slow in comparison to xp?
[08:34] <Shazburg> grawity: True. But that's not the default, and I'm just making sure ysis is aware of the possibility.
[08:34] <echosystm> in general everything seems slower :/
[08:34] <Reid> do you have to use 64 bit ubuntu if ur processor is such?
[08:34] <echosystm> no Reid
[08:34] <Reid> ty
[08:34] <grawity> Reid: 64-bit processors work just fine with 32-bit OSes.
[08:34] <grawity> (I apparently have a 64-bit CPU and didn't know that until yesterday.)
[08:34] <Spad-XIII> echosystm: ubuntu feels alot faster here..
[08:35] <shaullx> anyone?
[08:36] <Shazburg> shaullx: you can find it in "~/.config/menus/applications.menu". You'll see a </deleted> line in the menu entry. Remove that line.
[08:36] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sorry lost my own connection
[08:36] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: did that work for you
[08:37] <eruiwovmc> how does james bond go about without being assassinated while always using the alias "james bond"?
[08:37] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nop, it locked up in both live-usb and installed .. :\
[08:37] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: hummm
[08:37] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it seems as though it likes the numbers better as it locks up faster :P
[08:37] <itai_michaelson> hi, do you people know how to rip a CD to flac ?
[08:37] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: lets try sudo iwconfig wlan0 key :1234567890"
[08:38] <gogeta1> oops
[08:38] <Shazburg> shaullx: Sorry, you need to remove the <Deleted/> line. Got that a little backwords.
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[08:38] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i'll try, rebooting first as it's locked up
[08:38] <Shazburg> s/backwords/backwards/
[08:38] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key "1234567890"
[08:38] <shaullx> i removed that line still nothing
[08:38] <gogeta1> see if it taakes any key
[08:38] <Shazburg> shaullx: From the <Name>wine-wine</Name> entry?
[08:39] <shaullx> yes
[08:39] <leave> "1234567890" it's easy to try
[08:39] <``y7> where do i find my computer name at in ubuntu?
[08:39] <shaullx> its the only delete there anyway
[08:39] <itai_michaelson> Furlong, thanks, I should have looked there first...
[08:40] <shaullx> Shazburg should i restart gdm?
[08:40] <shaullx> :O
[08:40] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: you might only support short keys if it did not error
[08:40] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it didn't give an error
[08:40] <Shazburg> I don't think so. I just did the samething not more than a few days ago. Let me check something.
[08:40] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok you need to use a short key
[08:41] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it doesn't have the essid though ..
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i didnt set one
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever"
[08:41] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i just did .. no errors but also no connection
[08:41] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: that was just a test
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: you need to make a short 10 digit key
[08:42] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: what do you mean with "short keys" ?
[08:42] <Shazburg> shaullx: You can try restarting gnome, but that shouldn't work. Here's a thread to the Ubuntu forums for this issue, by the way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=477108
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: on your roughter
[08:42] <Spad-XIII> i used a 8 digit key and previously had 8 characters as a key
[08:42] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: your driver does not support long keys
[08:43] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok then lets do this
[08:43] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "yourssid" key "yourkey"
[08:43] <shaullx> i dont have <delete/> i had </delete> and i removed it
[08:44] <``y7> where do i find my computer name at in ubuntu?
[08:44] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: no errors
[08:44] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:44] <gogeta1> see if it keys a ip
[08:44] <gogeta1> gets
[08:44] <Shazburg> shaullx: Then you should have your Wine menu back. I'm sorry, but that's the solution for deleting a menu item you need back.
[08:44] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it's dhcpdiscovering..
[08:45] <Shazburg> shaullx: Or rather, getting back an item you deleted.
[08:45] <DVA5912> What is there for ubuntu that is similar to Game Maker on windows or the Visual studio tools on windows
[08:45] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: did it give out a ip
[08:45] <Reid> how can install a package if i dont have an internet connection?
[08:46] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: oh just timing out
[08:46] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: no dhcpoffers received
[08:46] <DVA5912> Im wanting to create a traffic light simulator. I get ideas and i have to build some kind of code to implement them
[08:46] <Shazburg> Reid: What package?
[08:46] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: ok iwconfig wlan0 enc "yourkey"
[08:46] <Reid> subversion
[08:46] <Reid> couldn't find it
[08:47] <Shazburg> Reid: If it's on the install CD, you should be able to add the CD back as a source (if it isn't alread) and install if from apt-get.
[08:47] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: and again the dhclient ?
[08:47] <gogeta1> yes
[08:47] <Shazburg> Reid: Which subversion is not on the CD.
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: we got issue 1 salved lol at least we knoe it didnt like the word key
[08:48] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: again nothing..
[08:48] <DVA5912> Okay, tell me this. How similar is Qt too Visual Studio C++ 08
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i would try with wicd now being it does support wpa
[08:48] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: 1 step further than i got myself :)
[08:48] <Reid> i try sudo apt-cdrom add, then do i need to try apt-get install subversion? or do i need to update apt?
[08:48] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: it should accept it
[08:49] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: i'll install wicd then
[08:49] <Shazburg> Reid: Umm... I take it you have a machine you could use to download the file, then transfer it over to the host in question via a flash drive or some network protocol?
[08:49] <Reid> yes
[08:49] <DVA5912> :( no one likes me even at 3:50 in the morning :(
[08:49] <eruiwovmc> is samba the best method for networking windows with ubuntu?
[08:49] <grawity> eruiwovmc: if you mean file sharing, then yes.
[08:49] <Keranu> Well my boot problems seem to be getting weirder, but I think I have a better idea of what's going wrong now
[08:50] <eruiwovmc> okay
[08:50] <eruiwovmc> thanks
[08:50] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: doh .. typing inthe whole apt-get install command .. only to find out, wired network is offline as well.. argh
[08:50] <Shazburg> Okay. Well, this could be fun.
[08:50] <Keranu> In the Ubuntu installation, I tried installing Grub to a 2gb SD card
[08:50] <Keranu> When I tried booting Grub from that, it said "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[08:50] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: the ubuntu one should work to just go in network settings and delete the auto connect
[08:50] <Shazburg> Reid: Here is the subversion package for Jaunty: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/subversion
[08:50] <Reid> ty
[08:50] <Keranu> After booting the Ubuntu Live CD, I checked the SD card and no files were on it
[08:50] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: so it loses the old locking up key
[08:51] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: then try reconnecting
[08:51] <Keranu> Is there a way I Can install Grub without the Ubuntu installer? It seems Ubuntu installed on the partition I wanted and everything, I just can't boot it
[08:51] <[R]> Keranu: what exactly do you mean you installed it to the sd card?
[08:51] <balachmar> Hi, how can I use an openPGP key that I have published through the ubuntu servers on another computer to sign email in thunderbird?
[08:51] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: it wil restore auto connect once you connect no worrys
[08:52] <Shazburg> Reid: To bring the package down, you'll need to satisfy all those dependencies. I'd recommend installing as many as possible off the cd, then downloading the rest. You'll have to match any dependencies for those dependencies yourself. Since you don't have an internet connection on the host you want to install on, you get to do apt's job.
[08:52] <Keranu> At the end of the Ubuntu installation when it asks where you want to install Grub, I chose the path to my SD card. (The reason I did this was to try something posted on the forums to help my problem)
[08:52] <Shazburg> Reid: Unless... is this host connected to a local network, but is not allowed to access the internet?
[08:52] <[R]> Keranu: but you installed ubuntu to your hard drive?
[08:52] <Keranu> Yes
[08:52] <Reid> fresh install, trying to get wireless working
[08:53] <Shazburg> Reid: No ethernet available?
[08:53] <Reid> its available
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: yeah... of course there are gonna be no files onthe card
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: selecting the device to "instal lgrub" to just puts it in the mbr
[08:53] <[R]> Keranu: doesnt copy any files
[08:53] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: it's trying..
[08:54] <Keranu> [R]: I was trying to follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[08:54] <[R]> Keranu: sounds like someone on the forums doesnt know whaat they are talking about (shocker there)
[08:54] <billy> hi i deleted a package and its not removed from the menu. how do i remove it from there also?
[08:54] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: lol it didnt lockup this time
[08:54] <[R]> billy": right click and hit edit menu
[08:54] <Shazburg> Reid: Really, you're in for a world of hurt trying to match the dependencies yourself. I'd recommend you get that host connected in some way and let apt do the work for you.
[08:54] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nope, but failed anyway :)
[08:54] <Reid> lol okay
[08:54] <rohan> i want to install 64bit version of ubuntu. what is the best way to go for flash and java plugin?
[08:54] <Reid> tx for the heads up
[08:55] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: only the wireless locks up .. wired should work
[08:55] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: try sudo dhclient -r wlan0 and try again
[08:55] <Shazburg> Reid: You're welcome. I found myself doing just this on a laptop with a dead nic last year. It was a lot of time and not a lot to show for it.
[08:56] <billy> [R] i dont see that
[08:56] <[R]> billy: what do you see?
[08:56] <billy> panel settings
[08:56] <wizzer> just had me a double decker pb&j
[08:56] <lvlefisto> i was trying to make skype work using pasuspender, then i killed pulseaudio and now i have no sound even after restarting
[08:57] <neo_> will my python2.5 and related installs break if I upgrade to Jaunty?
[08:57] <[R]> billy: you need to right click on the menu
[08:57] <wizzer> wrong room
[08:58] <Keranu> [R]: Did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[08:58] <Spad-XIII> gogeta1: nothing
[08:58] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: dam netbook
[08:58] <gogeta> p;
[08:59] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: any luck
[08:59] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: you you got my dhclient -r command
[08:59] <[R]> Keranu: nope... i generally don't like to read forum posts by people who have no clue what they are doing
[09:00] <KC|work> then i advise you ignore every forum on the interne
[09:00] <KC|work> t
[09:00] <[R]> KC|work: i generally do
[09:00] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: yea.. didn't work :\
[09:00] <KC|work> ;)
[09:00] <Keranu> It mentioned installing Grub to a floppy (USB in my case) and copying some file from it to your Ubuntu system and then copying that file to your Windows drive and editing the boot.ini to include it
[09:00] <[R]> KC|work: although when i'm in the mood for a good laugh...
[09:00] <Keranu> bootsect.lnx was the file
[09:00] <gogeta> Spad-XIII: humm one issue down not to get it to accept wpa
[09:01] <[R]> Keranu: seems severly crack induced
[09:01] <gogeta> now
[09:01] <Keranu> Maybe you can give me further ideas regarding my installation problems
[09:02] <Keranu> I'm able to partition and install Ubuntu itself fine it seems, but I have problems with dual booting between XP and ubuntu. One of three things happen:
[09:02] <Keranu> 1. ) System boots straight into XP
[09:02] <[R]> sounds like your not setting up grub right
[09:02] <gokhan> that why you install xp after ubuntu
[09:02] <Keranu> 2. ) Systems boots GRUB and lists XP, but when trying to boot XP it says something like "Selected Disk Not Available" (Error 21)
[09:03] <Keranu> Or 3. ) When my BIOS boots, it says "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[09:03] <Keranu> I've tried installing XP after Ubuntu too
[09:03] <[R]> installing xp after ubuntu is only going to wipe grub
[09:03] <Keranu> As my computer is now, I'm stuck with problem 1.)
[09:03] <Keranu> But I can see my installed Ubuntu partition and files
[09:03] <[R]> saying it says "something like" tells us nothing
[09:04] <gokhan> yes know you need to set grub
[09:04] <Keranu> The error was spefifically error 21
[09:04] <Keranu> Let me look it up
[09:04] <gokhan> boot your pc from livecd
[09:04] <Keranu> That's what I'm in now
[09:04] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: blarg now my wireless die
[09:04] <gogeta1> lol
[09:05] <Spad-XIII> gogeta: lol .. both wired and wireless aren't working here .. :\
[09:05] <gokhan> then recover your grub menu
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: why not wired
[09:05] <Keranu> How can I recover it?
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: maybe you got your roughter blocking it
[09:05] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: i would die of laughter if thats the case
[09:05] <error404notfound> how can i install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jdk on hardy heron? i have tried apt-cache search jdk and only openjdk came in the list, no packages with sun_ or java6
[09:06] <gokhan> read that http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3203908&postcount=4
[09:06] <Keranu> Thanks
[09:06] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: for wired not to work it sounds like it
[09:07] <gokhan> no problem
[09:07] <Shazburg> error404notfound: Here's the java packages for hardy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=java
[09:07] <error404notfound> Shazburg, http://pastebin.com/m14c3b758 is my repo list
[09:08] <gogeta1> Spad-XIII: its very late so i have to sleep good luck it sounds like the orughter is rejecting the connection thow for wired to fail
[09:09] <Shazburg> error404notfound: You want java6 runtime, right?
[09:10] <error404notfound> Shazburg, its bin and demo actually
[09:10] <Phonon> I've installed the latest version of VirtualBox from the vbox official repo. USB is not accessible in the guest OS. What's wrong?
[09:10] <[R]> Phonon: you selected it in the settings?
[09:11] <Shazburg> error404notfound: Well, I don't know about the demo, but I think you want this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ia32-sun-java6-bin
[09:11] <Shazburg> error404notfound: It's in multiverse, so you just need to add that to your sources.
[09:11] <Spad-XIII> wired connection worked fine earlier today and yesterday the whole day .. the router is not blocking it :\
[09:12] <Shazburg> Phonon: You installed from vbox's repo, and not Ubuntu?
[09:12] <Phonon> [R]: Yes, in the settings of a vm, I added a corresponding filter.
[09:12] <[R]> Phonon: sounds like you need help with virtualbox... not ubuntu
[09:12] <topher_> Anyone know how to install WoW with Wine?
[09:12] <Phonon> Shazburg: Yes, not from the Ubuntu repo. Since the open source edition does not support USB, isn't it?
[09:13] <Phonon> [R]: Well, thanks.
[09:13] <topher_> Anyone know how to install World of Warcraft with Wine..?
[09:13] <Shazburg> Phonon: Not sure about that as I haven't tried USB with VirtualBox, but if you installed from their repo, you'll definately want to work with them on the issue.
[09:13] <[R]> topher_: yes... we all heard you the first time
[09:13] <Shazburg> topher_: Download the installer and run it. Works fine for me.
[09:13] <Phonon> Shazburg: Yeah, thanks
[09:14] <Shazburg> Phonon: Sorry.
[09:15] <thomson> dual booting windows xp and linux...... is there a web site that explains how to determine swap file size etc?
[09:15] <delicowa> what stage of development is kermic koala
[09:15] <Shazburg> topher_: Yes, go to your account page and download the windows installer. I ran it through wine and installed the game just like in Windows.
[09:15] <[R]> delicowa: there is a wonderfu shedule on the ubuntu website
[09:17] <topher_> How do you run it with Wine?
[09:17] <DrMrHorse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[09:17] <billy> whats the best ubuntu/debain desktop screen recorder?
[09:17] <Shazburg> topher_: Once you have Wine installed, it will take ownership of Windows executables. You just run the program like you would on Windows.
[09:18] <billy> i tried recordmydesktop to no success
[09:18] <Samich> Hello, I am having problems with youtube/flash audio. I am currently running 8.04. I don't have speakers as I use a USB Headset and it seems to work so far, I can hear Pidgin's noises. Any insight?
[09:18] <delicowa> I don't know but I use RecordMyDesktop
[09:18] <billy> it wouldnt record or something lol
[09:18] <delicowa> you can use recordMyDesktop to record dektop videos
[09:18] <billy> i want to make a review of the os im in
[09:18] <delicowa> check www.getdeb.net
[09:19] <billy> ill try and use it again hold on
[09:19] <ojdanke> hi all
[09:19] <ojdanke> is this a better chat system than yahoo chat?
[09:19] <topher_> Is their a way someone can use a Remote Desktop viewer to help me?
[09:19] <grawity> ojdanke: IRC is better than all (well, most) chat systems.
[09:19] <topher_> I'm a noob to Ubuntu.
[09:19] <billy> ojdanke u in pidgin?
[09:20] <ojdanke> i guess there are a lot of bots in yahoo chat....
[09:20] <ojdanke> i could.....
[09:20] <delicowa> after you click on record it hids the window in the system tray where the notification area is
[09:20] <svqyqb> http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa
[09:20] <svqyqb> hallo
[09:20] <ojdanke> do you want me to?
[09:20] <ojdanke> billy:Do you want me to?
[09:21] <billy> no just asking didn't really know what you were talking about
[09:21] <ojdanke> okay...
[09:22] <billy> delicowa
[09:22] <billy> i tried sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[09:22] <billy> and it worked but i dont see it in my menu :(
[09:22] <ojdanke> so just asking.... is this a place where people just come to chat?(I'm new to this place)
[09:22] <ojdanke> or does it have some specific purpose
[09:22] <grawity> ojdanke: This channel (#ubuntu) is mostly the support channel for Ubuntu Linux.
[09:23] <billy> yeah what grawity said
[09:23] <grawity> ojdanke: But there are many other channels in this network, and there are many other IRC networks.
[09:23] <ojdanke> great..... That means it is a lot of help.....
[09:23] <ojdanke> how do i change a channel?
[09:23] <topher_> When I enter
[09:23] <topher_> wine InstallWoW.exe
[09:23] <grawity> ojdanke: First, find out the channel name. Then type /join #channelname
[09:24] <grawity> ojdanke: You can be in multiple channels at once.
[09:24] <Shazburg> topher_: Your question isn't really related to Ubuntu. Here's a writeup on installing WoW with Wine of wowwiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine
[09:24] <topher_> It doesn't install it.
[09:24] <ojdanke> how do i find out the channel name?  :)
[09:24] <grawity> Good question
[09:24] <billy> what are you looking for lol
[09:24] <thomson> is it best to make individual partitions for each directory? e.g. /usr, /home etc.
[09:25] <ojdanke> i think i got that....
[09:25] <billy> freenode has alot of channels
[09:25] <Samic1> I am having a problem with getting flash sound to work, I am running 8.04 and have a USB headset, I went though the sound editor and got it to allow me to hear pidgin's noises but nothing from youtube/firefox.
[09:25] <ojdanke> i'm looking for a normal chat to find new friends(girls)
[09:25] <topher_> Still doesn't work. =/
[09:25] <Shazburg> topher_: You may also find Cedega or CrossOver Games to be useful.
[09:25] <surfing> Why the menu lost the setting ,place icon?
[09:25] <topher_> Do those cost money, Shaz?
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: On Freenode, the "generic" chat channel is #defocus. (Usually one would use /list to see all channels in the network - but since this network is so big, that command could easily flood you off IRC for a while, so I really would not recommend using it.)
[09:26] <billy> ojdanke go out in public and do that or get on myspace and add random people ha
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: Try /msg alis help
[09:26] <pixlbox> sorry to talk off topic but does anyone have a domain name with net benifit ?
[09:26] <Shazburg> thomson: It really depends, but in general the answer is no.
[09:26] <pixlbox> benefit *
[09:26] <Shazburg> topher_: Yes.
[09:26] <billy> anyway brb
[09:26] <grawity> ojdanke: There are also websites such as http://irc.netsplit.de/ and http://searchirc.com/ that can search all channels in all networks.
[09:27] <surfing> Did someone see it?
[09:27] <ojdanke> thanks... you all are a lot of help...
[09:27] <ojdanke> (I liked that- go out and chat to ppl advice best)
[09:27] <topher_> Is there a Wine IRC channel I could join?
[09:28] <moncky> topher_: #winehq
[09:28] <neo_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1212784
[09:28] <Frogzoo> thomson: these days, you only really need/want /home on a separate partition
[09:28] <neo_> i m not getting views or answers on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1212784
[09:28] <Shazburg> thomson: Partitioning this way made more sense when you ran the risk of /var overtaking your 700MB hard disk. Unless you have a very small hard disk (under 20 gigs) or you're spreading partitions across multiple hard disks, go with the "/" and "swap" partitioning and move on.
[09:29] <Frogzoo> ubuntu's installer should partition /home separately...
[09:29] <Shazburg> neo_: I'm not looking at it.
[09:29] <epic> how tdo i upgrade to firefox 3.5? (im on 9.04)
[09:29] <epic> *do
[09:29] <neo_> Shazburg: ????
[09:30] <billy> who was the guy whos name started with a d that told me he used recordmydesktop
[09:30] <Shazburg> epic: apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:30] <Shazburg> neo_: It's a joke.
[09:30] <delicowa> @bily I hope I'm not in trouble
[09:30] <Shazburg> neo_: My response, that is.
[09:30] <neo_> Shazburg: thaught so
[09:30] <delicowa> @billy I hope I'm not in trouble
[09:31] <billy> lol
[09:31] <billy> what version do you use?
[09:31] <billy> whats the difference between recordmydesktop and gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:32] <Shazburg> epic: You'll find it under Shiretoko once it's installed. This is because the branding for the package hasn't been updated since 3.5 was in development. I'm using 3.5 and everything is A-OK.
[09:32] <leaf-sheep> billy: One does not use GTK.
[09:32] <delicowa> gtk-recordMyDesktop is the frontend for recordMyDesktop
[09:32] <billy> idk what gtk is
[09:32] <billy> do i need both?
[09:32] <delicowa> yes you need booth
[09:33] <delicowa> recordMyDesktop is a commandline utility
[09:33] <leaf-sheep> billy: Install gtk version.  It'll pull in other package too.
[09:33] <billy> ahh thats why i only had one
[09:33] <billy> :P
[09:33] <Shazburg> neo_: Why do you want to upgrade to Jaunty?
[09:33] <delicowa> gtk-recordMyDekstop is a graphical interface (gtk is a graphical interface engine for the gnome environment)
[09:33] <billy> now i see it in the menu :D
[09:34] <delicowa> good just install it and you'll LOOOOOOOOVE recordMyDekstop
[09:34] <billy> ok i opened it now what?
[09:34] <billy> hit record but how do i stop it and save it
[09:35] <neo_> Shazbug: Gnome (probably compiz) seems to have prob with my video driver: intel 80845. I can not enable advanced visual effects. Had to uninstall compiz
[09:35] <neo_> plus i would like to work with python2.6 for my other projects
[09:36] <neo_> jaunty might have solved problems
[09:36] <neo_> plus improved stability
[09:36] <billy> delicowa dont leave me hanging :)
[09:37] <Shazburg> neo_: I see. That's quite the setup you have there. You install everything with apt, or did you use eggs for Django and the like?
[09:39] <billy> k
[09:39] <thecat> hi
[09:40] <gamla_kossan> hey, is feisty eol?
[09:41] <billy> lol failed
[09:41] <neo_> Shazbug: most of the times it was apt. I have installed some packages with pip. Then some manually.
[09:41] <Shazburg> neo_: My two cents: if you've got real time/money tied up in your setup, I'd weigh that against the pros of upgrading to Jaunty. No one is really going to guarantee your setup won't break, but I have had clean upgrades with Ubuntu when I expected destruction.
[09:42] <minimec> gamla_kossan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[09:42] <Shazburg> neo_: You might want to take a backup of your system and restore it to a virtual machine like VirtualBox, then test the upgrade there.
[09:42] <neo_> Shazbug: Ha ha. Thanks.
[09:42] <minimec> gamla_kossan: ... no longer supported. It is recommended to upgrade to the current version of Ubuntu.
[09:43] <neo_> Shazbug: VM seems to be an option.
[09:43] <gamla_kossan> minimec: fsck
[09:43] <neo_> but that will take some time.
[09:43] <gamla_kossan> minimec: thanks
[09:43] <minimec> gamla_kossan: np
[09:44] <Shazburg> neo_: And something I wish I was more discplined about is scripting such installations out so I can recreate them as needed.
[09:44] <neo_> Shazbug:I'll probably stick with Intrepid for now
[09:44] <diddy> Has anybody ever install Oracle on Ubuntu?
[09:44] <neo_> Shazbug: you are right. I was too lazy about scripting them.
[09:45] <neo_> Shazbug: anyway, upgrade to Jaunty can wait. I m enjoying Django for now.
[09:45] <neo_> Shazbug: thanks for help.
[09:45] <gamla_kossan> minimec: wait, feisty was never a LTS?
[09:45] <gamla_kossan> minimec: is that correct?
[09:46]  * gamla_kossan facepalms..
[09:46] <Shazburg> neo_: You bet.
[09:46] <thomson> how do i work out how big my swap partition should be?
[09:46] <Slart> thomson: will you be using hibernate?
[09:46] <Shazburg> thomson: You shouldn't need more than a gig.
[09:47] <thomson> Slart: no
[09:47] <Shazburg> thomson: Slart makes a solid point.
[09:47] <minimec> gamla_kossan: Hardy Heron is the last lts. Between Feisty an Hardy, there was even another one... 'Gutsy' ;)
[09:47] <Slart> thomson: how much RAM do you have?
[09:47] <thomson> Slart: 2 GB
[09:47] <Slart> thomson: I would go with 1GB or so.. just to give you some buffer in case something starts eating memory
[09:48] <billy> thanks delicowa
[09:48] <Slart> thomson: if you use hibernation you need at least as much swap as you have RAM.. otherwise hibernation will not work
[09:48] <Slart> !swap
[09:49] <kraut> moin
[09:50] <billy> yea
[09:50] <billy> saves as ogv file though
[09:51] <thomson> thanks
[09:51] <Shazburg> thomson: This your first linux install?
[09:51] <billy> and wont play it justs opens then closes
[09:52] <thomson> Shazburg: yes
[09:53] <abcminiuser_> Hi all, is there a PPA for an updated lm-sensors which supports the Atom?
[09:53] <Shazburg> thomson: Right on. Have fun.
[09:53] <AdvoWork> hi, ive got loads of logs every few seconds saying: "OTP unavailable because can't read/write key database /etc/opiekeys: No such file or directory"  any ideas please?
[09:53] <sirninja> Hey. I had ubuntu installed on my computer, and I reinstalled windows on another partition, so I'm trying to reinstall grub from a live cd, but I get the error "Error 22: No such partition"
[09:54] <topher_> I have my laptop hooked up to my TV via HDMI cable. How can I get the sound to come out on my TV rather then my laptop?
[09:55] <delicowa> notice billy make sure you use totem and that you don't have broken dependencies
[09:56] <thomson> Shazburg: i'll try, lol
[09:56] <minimec> sirninja: So you have one harddisk with different partitions on it?
[09:57] <mzz> mmm, apt-proxy seems a bit stuck: apt-get update is taking *really* long "Waiting for headers" while apt-proxy's log is slowly getting entries added. Did I break it somehow or is this a bug?
[09:57] <Shazburg> topher_: You'll need to run an audio cable.
[09:57] <sirninja> minimec: yes
[09:57] <mzz> topher_: I don't know about hdmi, but with most other formats you have to run audio separately
[09:58] <sirninja> the last thing it says before that error is: "Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,6)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed"
[09:58] <minimec> sirninja: What did find /boot/grub/stage1 return? Something like 'hd.0.1' ?
[09:58] <billy> totem?
[09:59] <mzz> sirninja: did you change your partition layout? "geometry (hd0)" might be interesting.
[09:59] <sirninja> it returned (hd0,6)
[09:59] <sirninja> oh... I'm booting off a usb, that could register as hd0 couldn't it?
[10:00] <minimec> sirninja: ok. No. I don't think so. Your stick shouldn't be recognized as 'hd'
[10:00] <delicowa> well if you use ati try installing all the ati drivers because it is propriery
[10:00] <sirninja> strange. In gparted, It says my main hd. is all unallocated, even though I know that's not the case
[10:01] <topher_> Huh, it works on Vista without the audio cable..
[10:01] <topher_> I thought HDMI had audio in it?
[10:01] <minimec> sirninja: So ... Thenyou do 'root (hd0,6)', and then 'setup (hd0)'. IS that right. Do you get the error after setup (hdo)?
[10:02] <delicowa> */notice billy try this command  make sure mplayer is installed
[10:02] <sirninja> correct. I only get an error after setup (hd0)
[10:03] <DerKlempner> topher: the HDMI interface is audio and video, but Ii've never heard of the audio portion working properly in linux
[10:04] <DerKlempner> topher: what kind of video card do you have?
[10:04] <Shazburg> topher_: http://www.google.com/search?q=hdmi+ubuntu
[10:04] <aurilliance> My pc has 4 partitions: (1) a small vista o/s partition (ntfs), (2) a large storage partition (ntfs), (3) a ubuntu partition (ext2 or whatever it is) and (4) a swap partition. From ubuntu I can see and mount partition (1), but cannot see partition (2). Any reason why?
[10:05] <topher_> ATI HD2600
[10:05] <minimec> sirninja: OK. I searched the Internet for your problem. Looks that your MBR is fucked up after the Windows install. You need the WIndows Install disk and reinstall a working win MBR. Afterwards you can load the Live DIsk (or stick) again and restore grub. google for 'grub error 22'
[10:06] <mzz> minimec: hrm? installing grub in the mbr *should* still work, I'm pretty sure
[10:06] <sirninja> ok. thanks. I'll be back later if that doesn't work. :P
[10:07] <minimec> mzz: So how to get rid of the error, if he cannot install it in the MBR with setup (hd0) ?
[10:07] <DerKlempner> topher: i think AI released multiple drivers for linux, depending on the card you have.  you may want to double-check their site to see if you have the correct driver, but i'm not familiar with their audio support over HDMI in linux
[10:08] <DerKlempner> i'm quite sure NVidia's audio over HDMI is not supported, though
[10:09] <mzz> minimec: 22 is "No such partition" which is pretty weird if "find" found a file on it. I've seen grub get a bit weird if for some reason the drive is not in lba mode and the partition's near the end of the drive, but I wouldn't expect error 22 for that.
[10:09] <mzz> minimec: I still don't see what the mbr has to do with this though. "setup (hd0)" overwrites the mbr, it shouldn't read it.
[10:10] <ufo> hello , i think its better if ubuntu 9.04 use thunderbird and not evolution... much better actually :)
[10:10] <AD7six> hi trying to install ubuntu using the 9.04 live cd - even if I select safe graphics mode and/or choose acpi=off, no apci, no lapic, edd=on, I arrive at either a corrupt display or a blinking cursor
[10:10] <mzz> !best > ufo
[10:10] <AD7six> what can I do to further investigate the reason
[10:10] <mzz> ufo: imnsho: meh, just uninstall evo and install thunderbird if you disagree with the default.
[10:11] <bazhang> AD7six, md5 the iso yet? burn at low speed and do the disk integrity check?
[10:11] <billy> delicowa what command
[10:11] <ufo> sure never mind
[10:11] <bazhang> AD7six, if you have done all those, then either explore more !bootoptions , or try the alternate installer cd
[10:11] <mzz> AD7six: iirc "safe graphic mode" is still graphical. You could try a text-based install instead. But yeah, definitely do that disc integrity check first.
[10:13] <Shazburg> Guess ufo really hates Evolution.
[10:13] <minimec> mzz: Yeah... It is really unusual to have a '/' Partition at (hd0,6) in my eyes. Well'sirninja' has gone now, but what would be your suggestion?
[10:16] <AD7six> bazhang: mzz thanks for the hints will check the cd and use the alternate if there's nothing obvious
[10:16] <bazhang> AD7six, dont forget to md5 the iso as well, could be a corrupt iso
[10:16] <bazhang> !md5
[10:17] <AD7six> "Check finished: errors found in 1 files" guess that answers that
[10:18] <AD7six> I didn't think check disk refered to the cd :D
[10:19] <tim__> hello?
[10:19] <tim__> hello?
[10:20] <Pirate_Hunter> just did a minimal install from alternate cd 8.04, trying to run epiphany-browser and get error on D-bus - Failed to execute dbus-launch to launch D-Bus session, anyone care to tell me how to solve this problem?
[10:20] <quibbler> !ask | tim__
[10:21] <tim__> hello
[10:21] <Shazburg> No one here but us bots.
[10:22] <Shazburg> What do you need, tim__?
[10:22] <Pirate_Hunter> just did a minimal install from alternate cd 8.04, trying to run epiphany-browser and get error on D-bus - Failed to execute dbus-launch to launch D-Bus session, anyone care to tell me how to solve this problem?
[10:23] <justanothercoder> i need to install a simple proxy server on my ubuntu-server, is squid the way to go, or is there anything simpler?
[10:23] <JC_Denton_> can I use wget to download an entire, following only hyperlinks that point to files within the site?
[10:23] <tim__> I'm cool just checking out the xchat I installed.
[10:23] <neil1> Hey.
[10:23] <tim__> :)
[10:24] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I haven't found squid too hard to get running.
[10:24] <moncky> justanothercoder: not sure if there is somthing simpler, however squid is what canonical use internally so I would expect good support for it
[10:24] <marcelk> i want to use oracle xe on my jaunty AMD64, but i get wrong ELF class, because its actually for 32 bits, it there any way to fix this?
[10:24] <neil1> Am very new linux and need some help with a problem im having with the dispaly
[10:25] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i've got squid running before, but i guess it has a lot of features which i don't really need . wondering if there is one with a smaller footprint
[10:25] <Shazburg> JC_Denton_: Take a look at the man file for wget. It has a mirror option.
[10:25] <JC_Denton_> Shazburg: thanks
[10:26] <Shazburg> neil1: Go ahead.
[10:26] <marcelk> justanothercoder, what dont you need? squid isnt that heavy i think
[10:27] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: filterproxy, maybe?
[10:27] <justanothercoder> oh well, maybe i'll just install squid :)
[10:28] <neil1> i am running ubuntu through virtual box on my vista pc, and the maximum screen res i can get is 800x600 and because of this the linux screen on my monitor is not filling the full screen
[10:28] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I see a simpleproxy package. That sounds simple. ;)
[10:28] <gartral> I cant get my webcam too respond today... it worked up until a few days ago when i tried it... lsusb still reports it as there, but /dev/video and /dev/video0 are both "empty"
[10:28] <sirninja> I'm unable to reinstall grub from a live cd. i get error 22. what should I do?
[10:29] <Slart> neil1: have you installed the virtual box addons thingy?
[10:29] <Shazburg> neil1: You likely have a combination of factors. Just taking a blind stab at it, I'd say the driver VirtualBox is suppling is being picked up during install with a generic driver that may or may not be able to support a higher rez.
[10:29] <Slart> neil1: I think there should even be a menu option in the vm to mount the addons cd
[10:29] <minimec> mzz: sirninja is back, so if you have another idea for his error 22 prblem... ;)
[10:30] <Shazburg> neil1: Slart has you on the right path, I think. You may need the guest additions.
[10:30] <Slart> ah, guest additions.. that's the name.. thanks Shazburg
[10:31] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : here is my situation. i have two physical ports, eth0 and eth1 , eth0 gets a DHCP from my router, this router basically has my entire LAN on it. the router also has a wan connection. eth1 is my backup internet connection, i've created a virtual interface called eth0:1 and gave it an ip 192.168.1.99 . in case my primary internet connection goes down,people in my network can switch to proxy server 192.168.1.99 and be able to access the i
[10:31] <justanothercoder> nternet via the eth1 connection
[10:31] <justanothercoder> thats what i'm trying to do
[10:31] <om26er1> how to play wma in vlc. can any1 plz help
[10:31] <neil1> trying the addons now
[10:31] <om26er1> !wma
[10:31] <gartral> !wma | om26er1
[10:32] <om26er1> !wma
[10:32] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: That's quite a setup.
[10:32] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[10:33] <justanothercoder> yes i know would be simple to have a load sharing/balancing router like  linksys RV016, i used to have one before, it sucked
[10:33] <neil1> trying to install guest addons but nothing happening. and i just realised the time too so im gonna have to try all this later
[10:33] <sirakim> slt
[10:33] <billy> night everyone be back on tomorrow :D
[10:33] <sirakim> someone speak french
[10:34] <Ramonster> sirakim: Have you tried the french channels?
[10:34] <trucMuche> sirakim, /j #ubuntu-fr
[10:34] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Hey, I'm not judging.
[10:34] <Ramonster> !fr | sirakim
[10:34] <neil1> thanks anyway, will have a play around and if still no look ill be back
[10:34] <justanothercoder> my main internet connection goes out, not too frequently, so i'm thinking this would be a good temporary solution for emergencies
[10:34] <sirakim> thanks
[10:34] <horga> e cineva on?
[10:35] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: So, you're looking to have your server act as a backup router, yeah?
[10:35] <justanothercoder> yep
[10:35] <horga> sal
[10:35] <mzz> sirninja: exactly what did you type, and what's the output of "geometry (hd0)" (assuming you can pastebin)?
[10:35] <horga> am si eu niste probleme:)
[10:35] <horga> adica probleme...nu-s probleme dar..nu le stiu eu...pe toate:)
[10:35] <h0dges> hi, i've just been told by my touchscreen manufacturers support guys that i need to disable evdev. can you help me? thanks
[10:36] <om26er1> how to play WMA in vlc
[10:36] <mzz> h0dges: I'm assuming they meant just for their touchscreen, and that they told you what driver to use for it instead?
[10:36] <Ramonster> h0dges: apt-get remove evdev ?
[10:36] <gartral> !wma | om26er1
[10:36] <Sagaci> om26er1: install the metapackage ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:37] <horga> mi-am descarcat virualu box si nustiu de ce nu se deschide :( cica imi da ceva erroare justanothercoder ma poti ajuta?:)
[10:37] <gartral> om26er1: thats twice ive put that up, READ
[10:37] <sirninja> http://pastebin.com/m4097be65
[10:37] <Ramonster> !sp | horga
[10:37] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: It's been a few years since my CCNA bootcamp, but that setup you described might cause you a spot of trouble.
[10:37] <om26er1> gartral: which link to click
[10:37] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : why do you think so?
[10:37] <sirninja> and I did root (hd0,&) and then setup (hd0)
[10:37] <Ramonster> !fr | horga
[10:37] <gartral> om26er1: all are usefull
[10:38] <horga> ha?
[10:38] <h0dges> i've done a little bit of googling, and have seen that it can be done in xorg.conf. but no, they haven't told me anything other than : "About your problem, it is evdev driver issue.
[10:38] <h0dges> This driver is inbuilt in Ubuntu 9.04.
[10:38] <h0dges> Please disable it."
[10:38] <horga> nu inteleg:))
[10:38] <horga> ce ai zis?:)
[10:38] <leaf-sheep> How can I do this --> diff file1 file2 | pastebinit ?
[10:38] <leaf-sheep> It does not work.  Claiming I'm trying to send an empty document.
[10:38] <Ramonster> horga: where are u from?
[10:38] <minimec> h0dges: What do you mean by disable? have you ever 'enabled' it. 'evdev' is the event device driver used for special hardware, but normally you have to mention the evdev driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you want to use it.
[10:38] <horga> Romania
[10:38] <bazhang> horga, english here
[10:39] <bazhang> !ro | horga
[10:39] <mzz> sirninja: please include my nick or I'll miss your replies. Also, give me a minute to check something.
[10:39] <bazhang> horga, /join #ubuntu-ro
[10:39] <gartral> leaf-sheep: diff file1 file2 > diff.diff | pastebinit
[10:39] <horga> ok
[10:39] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I'm still thinking this through, so bear with me for a moment. As I drew this out, it reminded me of when I was with a small ISP and a customer had a similar setup, and it hurt us.
[10:40] <gartral> leaf-sheep: in english that breaks down  the diff, writing it too a file, and then passing the written ffile to pastebin
[10:40] <h0dges> my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/55140
[10:40] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: So eth0 is connected to your switch. Your switch is connected to your primary router, no?
[10:40] <justanothercoder> yes
[10:41] <mzz> sirninja: and "find /boot/grub/stage1" and "setup (hd0)" gave you what? Please pastebin again.
[10:41] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Still does not work.
[10:41] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: And eth1 is connected to your... backup internet connection via a router or bridge?
[10:41] <gartral> leaf-sheep: might need too make diff.diff into ./diff.diff
[10:41] <sirninja> mzz: http://pastebin.com/mbe9f7cb
[10:41] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Or eth1 is connected to your switch and your backup connection is connected to your switch?
[10:42] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[10:42] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : backup internet connection gets a dhcp address from my ISP's cable modem
[10:42] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Ran "diff libraries libraries-orig > ./diff.diff | pastebinit" --> "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[10:42] <mzz> sirninja: that's pretty weird. You're in ubuntu, right? I wonder if it somehow ended up with a completely confused "maps" file
[10:43] <minimec> h0dges: Ok. As far as I see, you don't use the evdev driver for any device. Look at my xorg.conf. There you see that I use the evdev driver for Mouse1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/217734/
[10:43] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : eth1 is directly connected to the backup ISP's cable modem. it gets a dhcp address. eth0 is connected to a switch, switch connects to my main ISP's cable modem
[10:43] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Got it.
[10:43] <sirninja> mzz: yeah. something's screwed up. gparted says my main hard drive is all unallocated even though I KNOW that's not true
[10:43] <mzz> sirninja: what drive(s) are in that system?
[10:43] <h0dges> here is cat /proc/bus/input/devices also: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/55141
[10:44] <problemato_> join/ #ubuntu-de
[10:44] <sirninja> mzz: what do you mean?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: is there more than one hard drive in it?
[10:44] <minimec> h0dges: What kind of touchscreen is that?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: (not partiions, actual drives)
[10:44] <sirninja> mzz: no. it's one hard drive
[10:44] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: How does your server know what path to take to the internet?
[10:44] <gartral> leaf-sheep: ohh im stupid... diff libraries libraries-orig && pastebinit libraies-orig
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: ok. What are you running gparted against?
[10:44] <mzz> sirninja: (sda, hda, that kind of thing)
[10:44] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i was just thinking about it
[10:45] <justanothercoder> shazburg : i guess setting the gateway address will be the problem
[10:45] <sirninja> mzz: /dev/sda
[10:45] <h0dges> eGalax 4-wire resistive non-HID usb panel
[10:45] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: What is your edge router?
[10:45] <mzz> sirninja: does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" also give you weirdness? Should print the partition table.
[10:45] <justanothercoder> shazburg : edge?
[10:46] <sirninja> mzz: that shows up correctly
[10:46] <h0dges> at the moment it's acting as a mouse trackpad
[10:46] <Shazburg> Your main router that directs lan traffic to your main internet connection?
 My pc has 4 partitions: (1) a small vista o/s partition (ntfs), (2) a large storage partition (ntfs), (3) a ubuntu partition (ext2 or whatever it is) and (4) a swap partition. From ubuntu I can see and mount partition (1), but cannot see partition (2). Any reason why?
[10:46] <mzz> sirninja: huh, then I really wonder what's going on with gparted. Sec...
[10:47] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : its just a switch that connects to my main ISP's cable modem
[10:47] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I see.
[10:47] <eeejza> hi I have an issue putting ubuntu server on a RAID server, GRUB keeps giving me error 2 and 15
[10:47] <waleed> hello
[10:47] <waleed> i want LFS chat ,
[10:48] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: The picture is much clearer.
[10:48] <waleed> i want LFS IRC chat
[10:48] <mzz> sirninja: it should be listing /dev/sda1 as windows, /dev/sda2 (I think) as extended, /dev/sda3 as swap, /dev/sda5 (I think) and /dev/sda6 as linux. Is that correct?
[10:48] <mzz> sirninja: actually just pastebin that too :)
[10:48] <leaf-sheep> gartral: Nevermind.  It's not important but it was strange that I'm not able to output to a file.  I did it manually.  And the last command you gave me really didn't make a sense. :)
[10:48] <gharz> guys, i've a usb flash disk... whenever i execute `ls` i get this error ls: cannot access THEME: Input/Output error... what's the best thing to fix this? is this hardware related now?
[10:48] <mzz> waleed: lfs as in linux from scratch?
[10:49] <waleed> yes
[10:49] <waleed> yes Linux From Scratch :)
[10:49] <mzz> waleed: then you're a little lost :P
[10:49] <sirninja> mzz: http://pastebin.com/m2437aa43
[10:49] <minimec> h0dges: As I see in your xorg.conf, you use the egalax driver for the touchscreen. Where is your problem exactly now?
[10:49] <Mike94287> How can I set keyboard commands to launch a program?
[10:49] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Well... if you want to have redundancy with your internet connection and/or load balancing between the connections, you have to have a router in one form or another.
[10:49] <mzz> gharz: could be hardware, could be a filesystem issue. Is this a fat or fat32 partition, and does it work in a different system or os?
[10:49] <waleed> mzz please tell me :)
[10:49] <mzz> waleed: try searching their website for where their irc channel is. This one is for the ubuntu distro.
[10:50] <gharz> mzz: it's fat16
[10:50] <gharz> 2gb hd... some folders can still be accessed
[10:50] <mzz> sirninja: eeeeeep. sda3 overlaps sda2!
[10:50] <gharz> is there any command like chkdsk which is equivalent in linux?
[10:50] <dstaubsauger> hi, is there a way to play wav/ogg/mp3 sounds with the internal pc speaker (the thing that plays the beep sounds)? i laready found this driver: http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html but i dunno how to use it. i'm using jaunty server
[10:50] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : ok, let me try to mess with this a bit
[10:50] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: If you can't convince the suits to get something like a Cisco 1800, and your server load is light enough, you can use your server to do this.
[10:51] <mzz> gharz: try "dosfsck" (umount the partition first!)
[10:51] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : i have just five computers on my LAN
[10:51] <gharz> mzz: thanks
[10:51] <om26er1> is there any single audio player
[10:51] <eeejza> how can I know if the partition is bootable or not from a mounted disk?
[10:51] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Then a third NIC seems a more reasonable price.
[10:51] <justanothercoder> Shazburg: and its not really mission critical. we're a small web dev agency, internet outages are just inconvenient
[10:51] <dstaubsauger> om26er1: what do you mean by "single audio player"?
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: is that what is causing it?
[10:52] <cast> eeejza: what's bootable depends on your bootloader surely
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: any idea how that might've happened? And are you supposed to have two linux partitions?
[10:52] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: I suppose they would be for you.
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: I don't know if that's causing it but it's definitely not sane
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: i have my home on a separate partition
[10:52] <eeejza> cast, well I usually asign a boot flag during the partitioning of a disk.
[10:52] <om26er1> dstaubsauger: only audio player not a video player
[10:52] <cge> dstaubsauger: You horrible person! I've been able to ignore that for years, and now I'm going to have to figure out how to do it.
[10:52] <sirninja> mzz: and I have no idea how that happened. I've done a lot of distro hopping lately, so I guess it happened during one of the installs
[10:52] <mzz> sirninja: fortunately none of the "actual" partitions overlap.
[10:53] <om26er1> dstaubsauger: and also by installing it no video player should b installed
[10:53] <om26er1> !audio
[10:53] <cast> eeejza: and then later discover ubuntu doesn't care? :)
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: I'd back up anything important, then delete sda2 (using fdisk if gparted won't work on this layout) and recreate it as a logical partition (sda7)
[10:53] <bazhang> !players | om26er1
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: NO WAIT
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: err, sorry, I meant sda3 there
[10:53] <bazhang> om26er1, check that list
[10:53] <mzz> sirninja: sda3 is swap, so deleting it should be safe. Do *not* delete sda2!
[10:54] <h0dges> minimec: the problem is that it isn't being controlled by the driver it should be. my only  evidence for this is that it's acting like a trackpad and that's not it's normal behaviour. is there any other way i can figure out what's controlling this device? like logs or something?
[10:54] <cge> dstaubsauger: I think you just need to load the right driver, though, and that should create a new audio device.
[10:54] <h0dges> tell me how to help you help me! :)
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:54] <dstaubsauger> ok
[10:54] <sirninja> mzz: so should I delete that and then retry installing grub?
[10:54] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Well, if you want to use your server as a proxy to keep connected to the web, you need three nics. If you want to have your server act as a router and balance the two connections (which is one way to get redundancy), then you need three NICs.
[10:54] <gharz> mzz: if i umount it... how do i dosfsck an unmounted device?
[10:54] <gharz> :)
[10:54] <gharz> :(
[10:55] <mzz> sirninja: your grub partition numbers are also off by one compared to the ones in the manual. I'd expect it to want (hd0,4), not (hd0,5). I don't know what's up with that. What does (hd0,<Tab> give you?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !fsck
[10:55] <mzz> gharz: dosfsck /dev/insertdevicenamehere
[10:55] <Mike94287> How can I set a keyboard command to open a program
[10:55] <dstaubsauger> cge: do you know the name of the module?
[10:55] <mzz> ActionParsnip: this is a card reader or something, no need to reboot
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Mike94287
[10:55] <cge> dstaubsauger: I'm looking
[10:55] <dstaubsauger> ok, me too
[10:55] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : i don't need redundancy, just a fallback, if the primary goes down. i can even write a script that i can manually run everytime the main connection goes down
[10:56] <minimec> h0dges: Hold on a moment...
[10:56] <justanothercoder> or change the settings on the server to use the backup connection as the gateway
[10:56] <justanothercoder> even that would work
[10:56] <sirninja> mzz: So in grub sda6, would be hd0,5?
[10:56] <Mike94287> Thanks ActionParsnip
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> justanothercoder: you could even script a ping via a certai interface, ifit fails, switch the route ;)
[10:56] <mzz> sirninja: yeah, they're normally one less than the number you see in linx
[10:56] <mzz> linux, even
[10:56] <justanothercoder> ActionParsnip : neat :D
[10:57] <sirninja> mzz: so when grub was saying it was finding it on hd0,6, but fdisk only shows sda going up to 6 is there something up with that?
[10:57] <mzz> sirninja: yeah, I don't understand that. Grub running inside linux has quirks though...
[10:57] <gharz> mzz: it says Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 6. what does this mean?
[10:57] <mzz> sirninja: or it's possible your grub differs from the one I'm reading the manual of
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: gru starts disk numbers at 0, partition numbers start at 1
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: what are you running it on exactly?
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: if the card has a partition make sure you run it on that, not on the raw device
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: (so run it on /dev/sdg1, not /dev/sdg)
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: so i'd say so as partition 6 is sda7 (for example)
[10:58] <gharz> i have a usb flash disk and i want to check its filesystem (a command similar to chkdsk)....
[10:58] <mzz> gharz: (replace sdg with your actual card)
[10:58] <gharz> mzz: it doesn't have partition...
[10:59] <gharz> it's a 2gb usb flash disk
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> sirninja: the extrended partition is one though, so that makes sense
[10:59] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: ActionParsnip is right. It's an easy enough thing to do (round robin). As a netadmin though, I think this configuration makes things more complicated than they need to be.
[10:59] <mzz> gharz: that doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't have one large partition. Does /dev/sd<whatever>1 exist?
[10:59] <gharz> ok
[10:59] <gharz> mzz
[10:59] <gharz> ok.
[10:59] <nperry> Whats the gnome shutdown command?
[10:59] <cge> dstaubsauger: pcsp
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> gharz: it does, you cant access disks, the flash device has a single partition taking 100% of the device
[11:00] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Course, the proper alternative has it's own complications.
[11:00] <mzz> nperry: I don't know about a terminal command, but you can click the red button in the top right.
[11:00] <sirninja> how would I delete sda3 from the command line?
[11:00] <mzz> nperry: (on the panel)
[11:00] <mzz> sirninja: use fdisk if gparted won't work
[11:00] <gharz> ok
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> cge: do i need to compile that myself?
[11:00] <gharz> let me check
[11:00] <cge> dstaubsauger: I'm not sure. I'm not running Ubuntu right now.
[11:00] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: Regardless, whatever you do, don't plug those two cable modems into the same switch. It's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> cge: ok
[11:00] <sirninja> mzz: what would be the arguments? I really don't want to mess this up
[11:00] <cge> dstaubsauger: It's mainline, but it's a bit esoteric.
[11:00] <dstaubsauger> yeah
[11:01] <justanothercoder> shazburg : won't :)
[11:01] <mzz> sirninja: first check if swap is in use, actually.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gharz: its a thing that windows does,if you split a drive into 2 partitions. it will see a C "drive" and a D "drive" when infact there is only one drive, the "drives" are partitions
[11:01] <_kelahi> do you know game x-moto?
[11:01] <sirninja> mzz: it's all not using any memory, but it shows available under the free command. is that good enough?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gharz: even if you only have C drive, its a disk with 1 partition taking 100% of the disk
[11:01] <mzz> sirninja:  might need to do "sudo swapoff -a" first, just in case. Then "fdisk /dev/sda", "d", "3", "w", I *think* (I don't want to actually delete any partitions here right now, sorry :)
[11:02] <mzz> sirninja: just running "swapoff -a" won't hurt.
[11:02] <gharz> mzz:  this is the result.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/217757/    ... i'm just wondering why does churvalooh, THEME and other folders doesn't appear on nautilus and cannot be deleted?
[11:02] <nperry> mzz, I know that. I'm currently making the change over to openbox and building my own menu!
[11:02] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: And if you run into any bumps, I'll be happy to give you my contact info privately for a consultation. I kinda do this for a living.
[11:02] <Slart> !hardy
[11:02] <mzz> nperry: sorry, I don't know.
[11:02] <mzz> nperry: if I'm not using gnome I usually have a different wm as master, so just exiting that ends my session
[11:03] <justanothercoder> Shazburg : thank you. sounds good. I'll try it out and if i run into any issues i'll PM you :)
[11:03] <sirninja> mzz: do I need to reboot since it says the kernel is still using the old partition table?
[11:03] <eeejza> ubottu, I amhaving some issues with that TLS version on my RAID server.
[11:03] <dstaubsauger> cge: when i do "sudo modprobe snd-pcsp" it loads a module
[11:03] <cge> That's a good sign.
[11:03] <mzz> gharz: might want to move some stuff out of the root directory into subfolders (assuming it lets you)
[11:04] <cge> dstaubsauger: That should create a new audio device.
[11:04] <mzz> gharz: I don't know how unhappy nautilus gets if the root directory is full if it tries to use a trash can there.
[11:04] <Shazburg> justanothercoder: That works. Good luck to you. And I'm still gonna say squid is your safest bet, even if it might be a little chubby for your needs.
[11:04] <justanothercoder> justanothercoder : thanks
[11:04] <sirninja> mzz: nevermind. I tried reinstalling grub, and it appeared to work. thank you SO much! Now I can get out of windows again. :P
[11:04] <gharz> mzz: can't access THEME, churvalooh and twilight... it says access error from terminal
[11:04] <mzz> sirninja: huh, you shouldn't normally get that. If you do I'd reboot (better safe than sorry)
[11:04] <dstaubsauger> cge: there's no /dev/dsp or /dev/snd
[11:05] <gharz> mzz: this folders do not appear on nautilus
[11:05] <mzz> sirninja: oh, don't forget to create a new swap partition. I'm assuming gparted will work again post-reboot.
[11:05] <cge> dstaubsauger: strange
[11:05] <sirninja> mzz: hopefully. :P
[11:05] <Ryan4> Hello Fellas, having problems with my sound. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (mp3's, vids, etc...). Login sounds works though... Could be because I installed Ubuntu in Windows, and somehow the sound setting is coming through??
[11:05] <cge> dstaubsauger: nothing in dmesg to indicate that anything was created?
[11:05] <dstaubsauger> lsmod | grep pcsp
[11:05] <dstaubsauger> pcspkr                 10496  0
[11:05] <mzz> gharz: dosfsck complains about them too. I'm assuming corruption, either of the filesystem or the hardware kind.
[11:05] <mzz> gharz: I'd make sure there's a fewer files on the root of the filesystem before trying to repair further though.
[11:06] <minimec> h0dges: http://paste.ubuntu.com/217763/ I rewrote yu xorg.conf a little bit to get some order in it.
[11:06] <dstaubsauger> ahh: [ 4510.353833] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: That's not it.
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: pcspkr isn't pcsp
[11:06] <cge> dstaubsauger: You probably need to unload pcspkr
[11:06] <UbuntuUser> hi all
[11:06] <dstaubsauger> cge: perhaps it prevents it from loading
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !hi | UbuntuUser
[11:06] <mzz> minimec: you know modern xorgs ignore kbd/mouse InputDevice sections by default, right?
[11:07] <gharz> mzz: i guess i'll just reformat this
[11:07] <gharz> :)
[11:07] <minimec> h0dges: I verified that Mouse0 is detected as CorePointer, and the Touchscreen is SendCOreEvents.
[11:07] <bauer_> i have 500 giga which is not mountet. How do i do that ?
[11:07] <UbuntuUser> how to install ubuntu on usb using entire space on pendrive /it is 8GB nad fat32 formatted/
[11:07] <UbuntuUser> ?
[11:08] <Slart> UbuntuUser: I don't think you can install ubuntu on a fat32 filesystem
[11:08] <Shazburg> bauer_: Take a look at the man file for `mount`
[11:08] <UbuntuUser> sorry, nad=and
[11:08] <h0dges> minimec: thanks. for the touchscreen entry, how does usbauto work in the option device field?
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> cge: i unloaded the pcspkr module, now pcsp-sound shows in lsmod
[11:08] <minimec> mzz: If it is in xorg.conf, it also uses it. I always have to configure my xorg.conf and I always did the whole conf, to have an overview...
[11:08] <Slart> UbuntuUser: apart from that little detail.. check what ubottu has to say about !usb
[11:08] <cge> dstaubsauger: ah, good
[11:08] <UbuntuUser> !usb
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> i think i've found the problem
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> [ 4510.353833] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[11:08] <Shazburg> Slart: We're waitind for the magic... there we go.
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> [ 4741.248066] PCSP: Make sure you have HPET and ACPI enabled.
[11:08] <dstaubsauger> that's my problem
[11:09] <h0dges> minimec: i was thinking for changing it to /dev/input/mouse1 or /dev/input/event7 to see if the problem was it couldn't identify it properly
[11:09] <dstaubsauger> i'll try to boot with acpi=force - the mainboard is from 1998
[11:09] <minimec> h0dges: I cannot tell you that. I use Option          "Device""/dev/input/by-id/usb-Logitech_USB_Gaming_Mouse-event-mouse"
[11:09] <DVA5912> anyone got any idea why the ubuntu startup logo is gone? I installed startup-manager and now its gone. i got a bunch of text now and im trying to totaly get away from that
[11:10] <h0dges> how do i find the id of the device?
[11:10] <minimec> h0dges: Try to have a look in /dev/input/by-id ;)
[11:10] <h0dges> k
[11:10] <jilbert> anybody familiar with nagios?
[11:10] <Slart> DVA5912: try starting the app you just installed.. I think it might let you configure what to show at startup... it could be that a text only boot is the default setting for it
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: look in the system-menu, administration, startup-manager
[11:11] <DVA5912> Slart: i made sure that textonly was not checked
[11:11] <h0dges> minimec: i might be being noob, but i don't appear to have a by-id directory, only by-path
[11:11] <gharz> mzz: thanks!!!!!!
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: is "Show boot splash" checked?
[11:11] <DVA5912> It is now :)
[11:11] <Slart> DVA5912: =)
[11:11] <DVA5912> Rebooting
[11:12]  * ActionParsnip always uninstalls usplash, its pointless
[11:12] <bauer_> Shazburg, isn't there a grafical interface to mounting ?
[11:13] <pup> i need some help with the obexftp package...
[11:13] <minimec> h0dges: Are you sure... I have my dvb-t, keyboard, and mouse... in there.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !find mount
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-mount
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> bauer_: looks like it
[11:15] <Shazburg> bauer_: There may be, but I don't know what that would be. Don't fear the command line, though. That's where the magic happens.
[11:15] <N|x> hey all wassup
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> !info 9mount
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> hey N|x
[11:16] <h0dges> minimec: ive tried as user and root, and have explicitly written the path but it still says it doesn't exist
[11:17] <N|x> so what going on here
[11:17] <h0dges> minimec: im going to reboot now and try various idents to see if that's the issue. cheers
[11:17] <minimec> h0dges: Are you on 8.04 (hardy) or 9.04 (jaunty)
[11:17] <error404notfound> i cant seem to fins sun-java6* in my apt-cache, i want to install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-demo
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> N|x:  uuntu support
[11:17] <UbuntuUser> but there must be some way. of courese fat32 is limitaed - filesize can`t be larger than 4GB. but i do not belive there is no way to divide ubuntu`s image
[11:17] <error404notfound> i am on hardy heron
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !java | error404notfound
[11:18] <N|x> !help
[11:18] <N|x> .help
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: do you have multiverse enabled?
[11:18] <Slart> !bot | N|x
[11:18] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip, lemme check source.lst
[11:18] <wbc> I need help finding a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu, which have a time-scheduler similar to the one µTorrent uses. Do anyone of you know about one?
[11:18] <or4n9e> is it possible to create an usb image as a virtual disc that contain the partition information and dynamically adapts to the real usb stick geometry with expanding to the medium utilizing dd?
[11:19] <or4n9e> -with +while
[11:19] <error404notfound> !Multiverse
[11:19] <firestarter1> hi. is there a graphical utility for adding/removing services ?
[11:21] <os11> how to setup ssl server in ubuntu?
[11:21] <UbuntuUser> firestarter1:  system->administration->services
[11:21] <wbc> I need help finding a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu, which have a time-scheduler similar to the one µTorrent uses. Do anyone of you know about one?
[11:21] <Shazburg> !ssl
[11:21] <N|x> wiki ssl
[11:21] <pup> wbc: have you tried deluge?
[11:22] <th0r> os11: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ssl+server+for+ubuntu&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA
[11:22] <Slart> wbc: azureus probably has that.. as a plugin if nothing else
[11:22] <Slart> !torrent
[11:23] <wbc> Thanks Slart, gonna check it out
[11:23] <or4n9e> is there a specialized channel for questions like this?
[11:23] <firestarter1> thanks UbuntuUser
[11:23] <DVA5912> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-3ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/etc/lsb-base-logging.sh', which is also in package lsb-base   Im trying to install splashy and  it keeps geving me this. Im using synaptic
[11:23] <Slart> wbc: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=SpeedScheduler
[11:24] <DVA5912> thats the error btw
[11:24] <diddy> Would it be advisible to let filesharing programs and anything that has server functionality run under a user that has extremely limited rights?
[11:25] <bauer_> Shazburg, on istallalation there is a program with a relative userfriendly interface. But what is the name off that program ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> diddy: can't see why not as long as its torrents etc
[11:27] <diddy> ActionParsnip, can't see why or can't see why not?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> diddy: should be fine to implement. torrents restrict file access to the files you are seeding
[11:27] <laeg> can anyone tell me the difference in Gufw between allowing a port and limiting it? (the other two options are deny and block) i've googled and can't find the answer
[11:28] <Slart> diddy: as a general rule apps shouldn't have more permissions than they need.. but there is also a balance of time spent of configuring stuff vs chances of something bad happening
[11:28] <diddy> ActionParsnip, but but about bugs in the torrent client?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> diddy: there are bugs in all torrent clients, even in mac, even in windows
[11:29] <cge> dstaubsauger: Unfortunately, none of my computers here have real pcspeakers, so pcsp seems to just give strange results.
[11:29] <diddy> ActionParsnip, yes, then you understand what I mean right?
[11:29] <dstaubsauger> :P
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> diddy: oh yeah, file access to a server and wanting to keep it as secure as possible
[11:29] <diddy> ActionParsnip, so should i let all filesharing programs run under a different user?
[11:29] <kaini> Whats the best program to view thunderbirds Inbox files?
[11:30] <Slart> kaini: uhm.. thunderbird? or that doesn't work for some reason?
[11:30] <minimec> kaini: thunderbird?... ;)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> diddy: you could run it as a user not in the admin group. This will greatly increase security
[11:30] <kaini> Slart, minimec, well it only reads the first 5 mails for some reason on Ubuntu. I tried claws mail that read the first 9.. really strange
[11:31] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering were are the packages that download stored after install in synaptic
[11:31] <echosystm> is there any reason why eclipse in the repo has been stuck at 3.2 since like... ubuntu 6?
[11:31] <diddy> ActionParsnip, that is a good idea? Any other rights I should remove from that client?
[11:31] <Slart> kaini: hm..it's not a setting in thunderbird ie show only the latest mails or something silly like that?
[11:32] <diddy> ActionParsnip, ActionParsnip, that is a good idea? Any other rights I should remove from that the user?
[11:32] <kaini> Slart, it reads the *first* 5 there are from 2006
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> diddy: just as much as you can without affecting functionality
[11:32] <Slart> echosystm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[11:32] <minimec> kaini: Can you export the whole database and then inport it again? Could be that the file is somehow corrupted. I don't know...
[11:32] <Slart> kaini: ok.. so probably not that then =)
[11:33] <kaini> minimec, I'll try that
[11:33] <user_> server irc.apropo.ro
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> diddy: the more restricted the better, you could even try making its shell /bin/false
[11:34] <Tetsuoo> I updated the system now I have low resolution, problem with nvidia drivers
[11:34] <minimec> kaini: Export the thunderbird database, then rename (backup) the .mozilla-zunderbird directory. Open Thunderbird and import the database. That's what I would try.
[11:35] <diddy> ActionParsnip, how does that work with sudo, though?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Tetsuoo: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> diddy: how do you mean?
[11:35] <kaini> minimec, okay I'll try - just importing/exporting the folder does not work
[11:35] <kaini> But I didn't try the whole profile yet
[11:36] <Tetsuoo> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (rev a2)
[11:36] <laeg> can anyone tell me the difference in Gufw between allowing a port and limiting it? (the other two options are deny and block) i've googled and can't find the answer
[11:36] <diddy> ActionParsnip, I am confused. I the user that runs the filesharing program is not in the admin group but in the sudoers group then is there still a risk?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Tetsuoo: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[11:37] <diddy> ActionParsnip, On Ubuntu there is no root. We do admin tasks with sudo, so how big is the risk there?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> diddy: then it needs to not be in the sudoers group, the admin group gives you sudo capability
[11:37] <daglees> sudo su
[11:38] <jussi01> daglees: sudo -i  ;)
[11:38] <Slart> laeg: limiting a port closes it if someone is making a set number of connection attempts in a certain time
[11:38] <Slart> laeg: protects against brute force attacks
[11:38] <daglees> wow even better
[11:38] <daglees> ;P
[11:38] <UbuntuUser> will i destroy my flash drive if i will format it into ext3 file system? is it possoble?
[11:38] <Slart> UbuntuUser: no
[11:39] <Slart> UbuntuUser: you will lose all data on it though
[11:39] <laeg> Slart: so with it limited i'll still be able to ssh? what about the port i use bittorrent on, don't limit that, right?
[11:39] <laeg> (ssh from a remote ip)
[11:39] <echosystm> Slart: is there some repo that has 3.5 in it?
[11:39] <diddy> ActionParsnip, let's say that I run bit torrent under a user that can sudo (admin tasks). If there is a critical bug in my bittorrent client or other client, then can the attacker become root ?
[11:39] <slava_dp> UbuntuUser, better use ext2, you don't want journal on a usb flash drive.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: i'd format it ext2, it will last longer. the data will be destroyed if you format it to any file system
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> diddy: it will need to know the users password to then use sudo commands
[11:40] <Slart> laeg: I have no idea really... it would be useful to limit a port used for ssh, I guess... I would start out limiting and if things stop working change things
[11:40] <UbuntuUser> i have it empty bu i`m wondering it is good solution
[11:40] <charnel> how can I determine where my soundcard is ? ex : dev/xxxx
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> diddy: if you disallow the users use of sudo (not in admin group) then it can only do as much as a user can and no more
[11:40] <Slart> echosystm: eclipse? I have no idea.. haven't used it myself
[11:41] <echosystm> oh ok
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: if its to be used in linux systems only then i'd say yes
[11:41] <slava_dp> UbuntuUser, ext2 is much faster than fat32, but incompatible with windows.
[11:41] <diddy> ActionParsnip, you mean not matter if the client program is buggy as hell? He can do no harm if the user is is i no sudo group?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> slava_dp: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:42] <prospire> whats the command to copy a file called php_browscap.ini from desktop and paste it in /etc/php5/apache2/extra from the root?
[11:42] <UbuntuUser> this pendrive is only for my linux system as emergency os
[11:42]  * jmartelatpapirux has script-kiddies molesting by http and ftp.
[11:42] <Ramonster> my make && make install command doesnt work... it says: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. but the makefile.am is there... :S
[11:42] <kaini> minimec, hm no same result
[11:42] <Slart> laeg: nice article about limiting http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
[11:42] <kaini> It is strange that claws mail can read more mails than thunderbird
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> prospire: sudo cp ~/Desktop/php_browscap.ini  /etc/php5/apache2/extra
[11:43] <slava_dp> ActionParsnip, well i know there are tools. are you going to be carrying them with you on a floppy disk if you want to use your usb drive in an internet cafe?
[11:43] <UbuntuUser> how about installing it? shoul i use regular installation or pd-type?
[11:43] <minimec> kaini: sorry then I don't know then, what to do...
[11:43] <UbuntuUser> shoul=should, sorry
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> slava_dp: it is possible is all i'm saying
[11:43] <kaini> Thanks anyway
[11:43] <generic> does ubuntu respect xorg.conf 's
[11:44] <Slart> generic: yes
[11:44] <UbuntuUser> pd-type i mean by usb creator included in ubuntu
[11:44] <generic> will it look at first then use hal on the rest of the stuff?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> diddy: if the user is not able to use sudo then the only data it can change is what is in its home directory, it may read other data if permissions have been granted on the files, otherwise it will be very limited
[11:44] <Slart> generic: it's just empty by default.. you can add settings and stuff to it though
[11:44] <generic> Slart: good!
[11:44] <prospire> and how do I rename php_browscap.ini to browscap.ini?
[11:44] <haptiK> prospire: mv
[11:44] <prospire> mv??
[11:45] <prospire> can u tell me the whole command please
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: mv php_browscap.ini browscap.ini
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: mv is used to rename, as youmove it to the same location as another name
[11:45] <prospire> ActionParsnip: php_browscap.ini is in /ets/php5/apache2/extra
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> prospire: you should websearch terminal commands of that level rather than ask in here
[11:46] <laeg> Slart: ty once more :)
[11:46] <prospire> so will the command be mv php_/ets/php5/apache2/extrabrowscap.ini /ets/php5/apache2/extrabrowscap.ini
[11:46] <prospire> ?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> prospire: then add the path
[11:46] <prospire> /ets/php5/apache2/extra/php_browscap.ini /ets/php5/apache2/extra/browscap.ini
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> prospire: yes, exactly
[11:46] <prospire> ok
[11:46] <Ali_nz> how you monitor resources like cpu usage and physcial memory in ubunutu?
[11:46] <mzz> minimec: (much delayed reply, but still...) might want to check your Xorg.0.log for "AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse'
[11:46] <mzz> will be disabled
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: top
[11:46] <th0r> Ali_nz: gkrellm
[11:47] <mzz> minimec: err, mispaste. But still. It may not be using all the InputDevice sections you think it is using.
[11:47] <leohartx> how do i get routing table using ubuntu ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> leohartx: route
[11:47] <th0r> leohartx: type 'route'
[11:47] <ecolitan> Ali_nz: try top
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> nice and easy questions today :)
[11:47] <prospire> ActionParsnip: my Konsole shows an error
[11:47] <prospire> mv: cannot move `/etc/php5/apache2/extra/php_browscap.ini' to `/etc/php5/apache2/extra/browscap.ini': Permission denied
[11:48] <Ali_nz> getting gkrellm now
[11:48] <Ali_nz> thanks
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> prospire: use tab to autocomplete the folder and file names
[11:48] <UbuntuUser> ActionParsnip: have you installed ubuntu on your pd using regular install or usb creator included in ubuntu?
[11:48] <Ali_nz> might look at top too
[11:48] <leohartx> well, ty ,but result seem identical to netstat -r
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> prospire: you will need sudo as well, users do not have write access to /etc
[11:48] <Ali_nz> I doing a ddrescue and as it goes on it seems to make the system slower and slower!!! got to see why
[11:48] <minimec> mzz: Well I don't care about the kbd driver for example. But it surely uses the evdev driver, when I want a device to use it.
[11:48] <th0r> leohartx: route -n
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it fills up the other partition with the image of the partition you are dd_resueing
[11:49] <ecolitan> prospire: sudo in front
[11:49] <leohartx> th0r : btw, how do i read content from file which is printed out by tcpdump ?
[11:49] <th0r> leohartx: less
[11:49] <leohartx> th0r : i mean "decode" or decrypt
[11:50] <prospire> ActionParsnip: thx.... ecolitan: thx
[11:50] <leohartx> th0r : it says : it's a binary file
[11:50] <leohartx> th0r : i'd tried to open it using vi
[11:51] <th0r> leohartx: wireshark
[11:51] <leohartx> th0r : but i cant read it
[11:51] <laeg> Slart: "An example is probably the simplest way to illustrate how it works. The following two rules will limit incoming connections to port 22 to no more than 3 attemps in a minute - an more than that will be dropped:" ok so it limites the number of connections, but what if i can't connect because someone else is bruteforcing it?
[11:51] <diddy> Does anybody know where the Firefox profile is located on Ubuntu?
[11:51] <leohartx> th0r : is there any way to work out it by using tcpdump and options ???
[11:51] <mzz> diddy: depends! which version of firefox/
[11:52] <Ali_nz> anyone here ever used ddrescue much?
[11:52] <th0r> leohartx: don't know...I use wireshark
[11:52] <petx> diddy, /etc/firefox/profile
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: a little
[11:52] <th0r> leohartx: you might check the man page
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: pair it with foremost and you have a data recovery team :D
[11:52] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: remember what sorta data recovery rate you get?
[11:53] <leohartx> th0r : i'll check it, ty
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: i use ata66 drives so its dead slow, you probably use sata which is much faster
[11:53] <zen_> #bi-sexual
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: just make sure you use 2 drives on seperate controllers and it will go fine
[11:54] <zen_> exit
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it will take as long as the drive is large
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> zen_: try /quit or /exit
[11:54] <zen_> ty
[11:55] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: seperate controllers?
[11:55] <Ali_nz> why
[11:55] <UbuntuUser> anyone know some cool application that can create iso whit everything what i have installed? i mean something like norton ghost
[11:55] <th0r> UbuntuUser: aptoncd
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: then the data flows down one controller and up the other, if the data has to go back up the same controller it will be slower
[11:56] <UbuntuUser> is best if it will be gui-type application
[11:56] <UbuntuUser> th0r: have it gui?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: ^ read that
[11:56] <Paavi2_0> !automate
[11:56] <th0r> UbuntuUser: don't know...haven't used it
[11:57] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: ok - slow I can handle as long as it doesnt crash again
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: may apps dont have a gui, you should not shy away from command line, its where the power lives
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: you could set the process a lower nice value, like -5 and it ill run better as it gets more cpu time
[11:58] <th0r> UbuntuUser: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=aptoncd&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&fp=KxYPMM6r3XA
[11:58] <UbuntuUser> and how about file premissions when i`ll use i.e aptoncd?
[11:58] <Ali_nz> hmmm, I think I only got 512meg of ram
[11:58] <Ali_nz> and its using most of it
[11:58] <Ali_nz> the linux box is doing nothing else but running ddrescue
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuUser: what about them, they are only deb files for updating and transfering deb files from system to system
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: then you are in the same boat as me for most things that take time..let it run (i do mine overnight)
[11:59] <th0r> UbuntuUser: you will need root permissions to install the files
[11:59] <prospire> can anybody tell me how do I restart apache??
[12:00] <ubunoob> ActionParsnip, i tried to reinstall nvidia drivers as you told me earlier, now its completely broken, ubuntu starts in text mode only
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> prospire: sudo /etc/init/d/apache restart   possibly
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> prospire: use tab to complete the apache word, it may be apache2
[12:00] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: reading about foremost - looks wicked
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: no need for it if you have a backup
[12:01] <L3dPlatedLinux> can I get a package from the synaptic and download it only , so I can move it to a thumb drive and install it to another pc?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ubunoob: then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:01] <moncky> ActionParsnip: /etc/init.d....
[12:01] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I do, but my friends clearly dont ;-)
[12:01] <UbuntuUser> everythin seems me not good at all. how about scripts, settings, configs and antother stuff? i`d like to move entire ubuntu installation, not only packages contained in system
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> ubunoob: don't use frame buffer, then when you are back at the prompt run: startx
[12:01] <ubunoob> ActionParsnip, it sais xserver-xorg broken or not full yinstalled
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> moncky: bah, yeah you're right
[12:02] <th0r> L3dPlatedLinux: you might try getdeb.net
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: thats where you can make a killing. I have a system specifically for data restores, nice little earner
[12:02] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I just need to get ddrescue running reliably. I was using a USB-SATA adapter, but that didnt work very well. Now I got a cheap SATA/IDE controller card for the job. seems better so far, but the linux box did seem to crash once....grrrrrr
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: all drives have ide ;)
[12:03] <deany> L3dPlatedLinux, check for dependencies if you do download just the deb
[12:03] <Ali_nz> ok SATA/PATA
[12:03] <sidewalk> does anyone use blueman to setup network(s)?
[12:03] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what do you use for data recovery?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: nice
[12:03] <C-S-B> sidewalk: yess, only way to get 3g working easily of my phone
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: for my friends, dd_rescure if the drive is shot, then foremost, or just foremost
[12:04] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: PATA is onboard mobo, and sata on the card. its a old PC, P4 I think but it dont need to be flashy for DR
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: for myself, i have backups running to a firewire drive every 6 hours so i just restore
[12:04] <phaidros> re
[12:04] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: at my work we had a device that bypassed the hdd control board and interfaced directly with the drive.
[12:04] <phaidros> there was once a script to move an alternate iso image to an usb stick, which from one could boot. any hints?
[12:05] <Ali_nz> C-S-B: PC3000 it could be
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: my dr system is a p2 333
[12:05] <Ali_nz> or some software can do that too, like MHDD
[12:05] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: wow!
[12:05] <eeejza> hi any suggestion how can I fix this, GRUB keeps telling me Error 2 which is that the selected disk doesn't exist however I mount it using a livecd and was able to mount it myself
[12:05] <C-S-B> phaidros: try unetbooting
[12:05] <C-S-B> *unetbootin
[12:06] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: I just dont want my box to crash again. Being remotely logged into it is nice since I dont need a extra keyboard, mouse or screen, but I wonder if it was VNC that crashed it?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: all my systems are around that spec, file server is a p3 500, rouuter is same, destop is 1.6ghz semp
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | eeejza
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: possibly, try it at the system and quit vnc to test
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: you can do it via ssh
[12:07] <Ali_nz> see the thing that worries me is when I click on anything while ddrescue is running it goes very slow, but CPU utilisation is still low
[12:07] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: without offence meant, you hw seems a  bit, well, cack?
[12:07] <moncky> Ali_nz: what is your disk I/O like
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: yeah but i chat and web browse so i don't need a quad core with 8gb ram do i?
[12:08] <Ali_nz> 58k?
[12:08] <phaidros> C-S-B: not what I looked for, but might worth a look :)
[12:08] <Ali_nz> 63k...
[12:08] <LuYu> i asked this question a couple of weeks ago
[12:08] <LuYu> but i have to ask it again:
[12:08] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: true, but hw does have a tendancy to die  at that age
[12:08] <UbuntuUser> i have my digg results. aplication exactly wat i need is called Remastersys
[12:08] <Ali_nz> sitting around 58k i think
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: my hardware is free, OS is free, lots spare money to go on holiday and see the world instead of sat infront of a screen
[12:09] <phaidros> C-S-B: sry, exactly what I was looking for :D
[12:09] <thebe> I wonder why my cpu is consumed 65% above by Virtual Box and 45% up by firefox????
[12:09] <phaidros> and the other one was:
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: true but then i'll have been given / have salvaged some new stuff
[12:09] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: point made. :)
[12:09] <Ali_nz> moncky: make sense?
[12:09] <phaidros> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[12:09] <LuYu> what can be done to make sure that ubuntu systems can connect to arbitrary access points without DNS configs
[12:09] <thebe> and I am running ubuntu in Acer aspire 5530!
[12:09] <moncky> Ali_nz: what does your disks do?
[12:09] <Ali_nz> moncky: in what way?
[12:09] <C-S-B> phaidros: np, trust me, you'll never look back once you have unetbootin -its awesome!
[12:09] <LuYu> it seems that windows users have no problems with these sorts of APs
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: it may be going slow due to I/O of the HDD as oppoesed to memory and cpu
[12:10] <LuYu> but ubuntu often cannot connect to the net through them
[12:10] <sidewalk> !blueman
[12:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> deany,  ok was looking for gnome network manager and its not there. Ok this is what happened my wife was on her lappy and wanted a wifi radar like app and she went to install kwlan and it removed the gnome one in the install process and she couldnt figure out kwlan and well I couldnt either but with out the gnome network manager there was no net at all wired or wifi so I tried to get it from the dvd rom as a install point and nothing so what I was w
[12:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> ondering  was could I have d/l ed it with this synaptic and went to where the packages are stored and copied to a thumb drive and then in stalled it that way on the other pc?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: you are right though. it is cack ;)
[12:10] <Ali_nz> yeah well I am running ddrescue, but not to/from the boot drive
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: remeber your system is only as fast as its slowest part, which is likely your HDD
[12:10] <moncky> Ali_nz: seperate physical disks?
[12:10] <Ali_nz> yes
[12:11] <LuYu> i have already tried the solutions given to me the last time, and they didnt work
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: you can add your install CD as a repo and install it from that
[12:11] <diddy> petx, mzz Thx I have found it.
[12:11] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: I say it as though my hw is cutting edge but my server is a p4 with 512 ram and I'm running a atom core at the moment
[12:11] <C-S-B> :P
[12:11] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  I tried that by checking the cd rom disk in the soruces list and still i got nothing
[12:11] <moncky> Ali_nz: sorry, was just a hunch that it was I/O
[12:11] <LuYu> these solutions included using distributed DNSes
[12:12] <Ali_nz> moncky: np
[12:12] <LuYu> making the resolv.conf file immutablle
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: then you can use command line to configure the wired connection to get online and install the packages
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: p4 is a nice chip
[12:13] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: i am looking at target .bin file and its size doesnt change
[12:13] <Ali_nz> is that normla?
[12:13] <Ali_nz> normal
[12:13] <Ali_nz> shouldnt it be slowly getting bigger?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: it should increase as the process runs. Its possible the data being curently read is very faulty and is being omitted
[12:14] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: but the server is off now :P I'm going to do format it and reset it all up when I'mm back home
[12:14] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  okthat might take awhile , with that said where are the synaptic packages stored when it d/l them?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: thats what dd rescue does, bit by bit copy of the data, _rescue just keeps going and ignores uncopyable data which dd will abort on normally
[12:15] <Ali_nz> oh well leave it running tonight and see what happens in the morning
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: doesnt take any time at all, just kill whatever network app you have and run:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo dhclient eth0
[12:15] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: how well do you find ddrescue works? Looks like an interesting bit of software.
[12:16] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: how dead does the drive have to be before this doesnt work?
[12:16] <LuYu> and installing wicd
[12:16] <kerimbasol_>  we have a problem about mount command i dont know how to use it for mounting smb ?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> L3dPlatedLinux: or you can go to the packages site for your release and download individual deb files and transfer, but if there are any dependancys needed you will need those too
[12:16] <Ali_nz> C-S-B: will work with logical errors, and bad sectors
[12:16] <Ali_nz> wont work with physical errors like stuck heads and dead PCB's, failing firmware
[12:17] <L3dPlatedLinux> ActionParsnip,  ty
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: dd_rescue goes til the end of the drive being copied or the destination drive becomes full
[12:17] <giovanni> ggg
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: whichever happens first
[12:17] <kerimbasol_> please help about mount command. I am newbie
[12:18] <moncky> kerimbasol_: fist stop should be man mount
[12:18] <Ali_nz> is there a quick command to open a new terminal window?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: alt+f2 type terminal, hit enter
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Ali_nz
[12:18] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i want to mount a windows share but i dont know i looked at man but i didn't understand anything
[12:19] <Ali_nz> k
[12:19] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i have problem with my boss for this problem reason. I have to solve .
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: if you run something like tilda, you can have it drop down / roll up on hotkey
[12:19] <moncky> kerimbasol_: is the windows share on a different machine?
[12:20] <kerimbasol_> moncky : yeap
[12:20] <Slart> ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal might work better.. don't think there is something named "terminal"
[12:20] <Ali_nz> tilda - ok another thing to google ::-)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i thought it was abstracted
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !info tilda
[12:20] <Slart> ActionParsnip: Alt+F2 doesn't do the nice things gnome-do and such do
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: did you ever play quake / half-life / doom
[12:20] <moncky> kerimbasol_: If your windows machine is a seperate physical machine you want to look at Samba
[12:21] <Slart> ActionParsnip: not on my system at least
[12:21] <moncky> !samba > kerimbasol_
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i dont use gnomedo
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Slart: tilda all the way for me
[12:21] <kerimbasol_> moncky : i heard its name
[12:21] <Slart> ActionParsnip: ah =)
[12:22] <Ali_nz> ActionParsnip: see this worries me. the time stamp on my log file is progressing, but the size of the log file is not. surely it should be getting bigger, if even only to record bad sectors in the logfile?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: not sure duder
[12:23] <Ali_nz> well the numbers on the recovery screen are changing at least
[12:24] <C-S-B> is anyone as odd as me and continually types 'clear' so their terminal looks call neat?
[12:24] <echosystm> how do you get the grid compiz plugin?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i do, its in a great many of my scripts too
[12:24] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: thank god. I thought i was the only one. :P
[12:25] <Ali_nz> how do I get back to the top of my user directory?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i type it on my work lappy too (XP) makes me laugh, as well as ls
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: cd ~/
[12:25] <C-S-B> xp its clrscrn or something isnt it?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: will take you home
[12:25] <or4n9e> I try to extract an rpm in intrepid and get "cpio: Malformed number"
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: cls
[12:25] <Ali_nz> thanks
[12:25] <or4n9e> any ideas?
[12:25] <jrib> Ali_nz: just « cd » will do it
[12:25] <Ali_nz> and where is home? is it under .usr?
[12:26] <jrib> Ali_nz: /home
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz: its /home/$USER
[12:26] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: apparently 7 has a ls function :)
[12:26] <thomson> my partition scheme: PRIMARY windows (1x NTFS), ubuntu (1x ext3 root, 1x swap file and 1x ext3 home) LOGICAL storage (1x NTFS for movies, music, etc.)
[12:26] <thomson> how does that sound?
[12:26] <or4n9e> the command I use is "rpm2cpio kiwi-desc-oemboot-3.01-136.1.i586.rpm | cpio -vid"
[12:26] <thomson> now i just have to work out sizes
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> thomson: sounds fine
[12:26] <Ali_nz> thanks again! night all
[12:26] <thomson> one thing... that storage partition formatted as NTFS
[12:27] <thomson> will i be able to access that from ubuntu?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | thomson
[12:27] <C-S-B> thomson: yes
[12:27] <thomson> thanks
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> thomson: its a best effort
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> thomson: as ntfs is proprietary
[12:28] <C-S-B> thomson: i use it all the time, never had a trouble, just make sure the fs is clean.
[12:28] <thomson> it's just the 4GB limit on FAT32
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> thomson: as long as the files dont have weird permissions you will have access, if they do and ntfs-3g can't deal then you will only get read access
[12:28] <thomson> k
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> thomson: if you are only throwing user data on there then you don't have to worry
[12:29] <thomson> k
[12:29] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what would you deem a weird permission?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: like acitive directory permissions for the local users that have been manually set on files and folders
[12:30] <tehbaut> I have win7 and osx installed already, if I add ubuntu to the list, will grub install and detect the others?
[12:30] <C-S-B> tehbaut: should do
[12:30] <tehbaut> ok
[12:31] <thomson> so windows needs to be the first partition on the drive and primary... right?
[12:31] <C-S-B> thomson: yes, windows is a funny old thing
[12:31] <thomson> lol
[12:31] <C-S-B> well, it doesnt have to be on the first partition
[12:31] <thomson> indeed it is
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> thomson: not necessarily, it makes the dual oot easier if you install windows first
[12:31] <triplc> Hi all
[12:31] <thomson> ok
[12:32] <echosystm> thomson all you need to worry about is making sure grub is the bootloader and not the windows one
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> thomson: just don't assign the whole disk to windows and have to resize afterwards, it makes no sense, you can keep your data safe if you use less of the disk when you install the windows boot
[12:32] <C-S-B> I always installed windows on the second partition as i like a big partition with windows and storage on at the end of my drive.
[12:32] <billy> here is what i use :D
[12:32] <billy> http://www.planetwatt.com/
[12:33] <C-S-B> Saying that, I want to rid of windows as a partition and just virtualise it, should i desire to touch it
[12:33] <triplc> How to get X /gdm back? I install xbmc xbmc-live and now I cannot have 'normal' gdm login as well as normal X started as default. even after apt-get remove xbmc-live. Please tell me how (i am using irssi in text mode) :-(
[12:33] <thomson> well... i'm not going the whole hog yet
[12:33] <C-S-B> echosystm: windows bootloader can boot linux
[12:33] <Nameless_au> how does one control synaptics in ubuntu?
[12:33] <triplc> (i am using Jaunty)
[12:34] <jrib> Nameless_au: the touchpad you mean?
[12:34] <C-S-B> Nameless_au: how do you mean?
[12:34] <Nameless_au> jrib: yes
[12:34] <jrib> !synaptics | Nameless_au
[12:34] <thomson> what would be best to use, grub or windows boot loader?
[12:34] <Nameless_au> jrib: ty
[12:34] <jrib> thomson: grub
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> thomson: NTLDR can't boot anything but windows, so you will need grub or lilo
[12:35] <C-S-B> thomson: grub hands down
[12:35] <thomson> grub it is
[12:35] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: I'm sure i read you could boot linux with win boot loader ...
[12:35] <thomson> i want to get this right the first time
[12:35] <thomson> lol
[12:35] <triplc> How to get X /gdm back? I install xbmc xbmc-live and now I cannot have 'normal' gdm login as well as normal X started as default. even after apt-get remove xbmc-live. Please tell me how (i am using irssi in text mode) :-( (i am using Jaunty) Pleeeeaaase
[12:36] <triplc> (sorry for repost question)
[12:36] <ohir> ActionParsnip: wrong info. Ntldr certainly can boot anything in chain. Just it's a bit cumbersome an microsoftish to configure it. That grub and its /boot/grub/menu.lst is way easier and known way to have dual boot quick.
[12:36] <Nameless_au> C-S-B: through apps such as easybcd it is, but one error and youre goners
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> ohir: true it is possible
[12:37] <aurilliance> hey Ubuntu-ers heres a question: I can see one of my 2 ntfs partitions from ubuntu, but not the other. Why would that be?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: do they both show up in the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[12:38] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: all that does is ask for my password
[12:38] <frozsyn> Is there a way to install the graphical installer (the one of the live cd) on an existing ubuntu installation, and use it to install another ubuntu on the same computer ?
[12:38] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: jokes XD yes the both show up
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: thats because you used sudo
[12:38] <aurilliance> :P
[12:38] <aurilliance> *y
[12:38] <mrincredible> Lol, "man gcc" on ubuntu 9.04 yields errors!! Right at the end! Somebody, report it, quick! :D
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: then you can mount them using ntfs-3g
[12:39] <thomson> so grub will automatically place a /boot partition at the start of the drive?
[12:39] <C-S-B> thomson: no, grub can be stored on the / partition
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sudo mkdir /media/stuff1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<partition name here> /media/stuff1 -o uid=1000
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: you can see which partition isnt mounted if you run    mount
[12:39] <thomson> ok
[12:39] <C-S-B> thomson: it just right grub to the first 512 bytes of your hdd
[12:40] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help ill try it. is there a reason why one of them won't show up under the 'computer' place in nautilus?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: no idea. i dont use automount
[12:40] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: ok. Thanks again <3
[12:41] <gharz> guys, i've 1 folder and i want to create an .iso file out of that folder... can u suggest which software should i use in ubuntu? thanks.
[12:41] <yoques> Holas
[12:41] <kant> mksisfs ? if i recall
[12:41] <kant> mkisofs
[12:41] <gharz> !iso
[12:42] <deany> gharz, Application/CD DVD Creator
[12:42] <yoques> tengo un problema muy curioso: desde el live cd conecto via wifi, pero desde la instalación en el ordenador no me lo permite
[12:42] <deany> gharz, add the folder, write disc, choose iso
[12:42] <C-S-B> yoques: english?
[12:42] <deany> gharz, or theres mkisofs as kant said which is cli
[12:42] <yoques> C-S-B: i can understand
[12:43] <gharz> mkisofs... uhmmm...
[12:43] <gharz> ok thanks.
[12:43] <gharz> i'll try it
[12:44] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: thanks a ton again, that did the trick...
[12:44] <yoques> i think the problem is i used the driver madwifi
[12:44] <yoques> and now i can't turn it "atrás"
[12:44] <thomson> just to make sure, swap file is the size of your ram, right?
[12:44] <thomson> i know i asked not long ago, but i forgot
[12:44] <thomson> lol
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sweet
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: if you wish
[12:45] <UbuntuUser> i have 2 error messages when ubuntu loads up: 1. error when OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet 2. error when OAFIID:GNOME_IndicatoApplet loads
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: you and the drive is internal and to be mounted each time, you can add an entry to /etc/fstab
[12:45] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: it is internal, Ill try that. thanks again for all the help lol
[12:46] <deany> using mkisofs with a folder with files/folders with long names, it uses shorter truncated names, even with the joilet option
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: np man, its the same data as the command
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: just rearranged
[12:47] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: lol just realised why it wasn't showing up in 'computer' - there's already an fstab entry, I just didn't know where it had been mounted to. turns out it was in /windows
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: weird
[12:47] <justanothercoder> my ubuntu-server silently shut down, have no clue, i just found it powered down. i checked /var/log/messages and it said  (timestamp)  ubserver syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: it will get automounted based on its label
[12:47] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip: heh yeh. How can I unmount the folder you helped me create?
[12:47] <coleys> aurilliance: sudo umount /path/to/folder/
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: sudo umount /media/stuff1; sudo rm -rf /media/stuff1
[12:48] <aurilliance> ty
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: as its no longer needed ;)
[12:48] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys .....i want to add the repos for ubuntu 9.04
[12:48] <justanothercoder> it also happened couple of times over the last few days, any ideas?
[12:48] <jrib> ActionParsnip: rmdir or && there just in case!
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> jrib its a folder so it will do the same, i get your point with && though
[12:49] <jrib> !repos | cobra-the-joker
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: you wil lhave them if you have jaunty installed
[12:50] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: what is it you do when you are here helping?
[12:50] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , its jaunty
[12:50] <kaptengu> I want to echo chars in terminal using their octal values, can anyone give me an example how to do this?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: then you have them already
[12:50] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , but i cant find the flash plugin in it ...aptitude search flash i assume ??
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: i monitor servers in florida from the UK while my team sleeps
[12:50] <tehbaut> what's the latest fs type for linux?
[12:50] <jrib> kaptengu: man echo ?
[12:50] <tehbaut> ext 3?
[12:51] <cobra-the-joker> ext4
[12:51] <faaf3ja> Guys, I'm trying to write an automount script that it rearranges what I'm mounting. I'm trying to get /export/backup/DATES/USERS to be mounted as /backup/USERS/DATES. Any ideas?
[12:51] <tehbaut> is that mac-accessible?
[12:51] <jrib> kaptengu: example: echo -e '\0123'
[12:51] <UnderSampled> I think I found a major bug, but I can't even begin to trouble shoot. Does someone want to help me?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:51] <jrib> faaf3ja: why are you doing this?
[12:52] <kaptengu> jrib: thank you very much, I should have read the manual, I was missing out the \0
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: ask the room, it will reply if it can
[12:52] <tehbaut> if I want to have my ubu partition accessible by mac and pc, would I be fine putting ubu on a fat32, or should I really just go with ext4?
[12:52] <Twister> i need help with a major problem i am facing
[12:52] <tehbaut> (and forget compatibility)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: fat32 doesnt hold the permissions that linux needs, i'd use ext3
[12:52] <tehbaut> ah, ok
[12:52] <Twister> how do i get a dock on my desktop in ubuntu like this one?     http://i32.tinypic.com/2e1vtkh.jpg
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Twister
[12:53] <C-S-B> tehbaut: forget compatibility and have a shared partition for sharing
[12:53] <UnderSampled> The problem: any version of ubuntu with the name 9.04 boots onto a screen full of text (which I can painstakeingly copydown if needed), and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on my keyboard blink on and off
[12:53] <tehbaut> now how to I specify the root hdd from the prepare partitions? do I need to make a new part-table?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Twister: looks like avant-window-navigator to me
[12:53] <achilles> #OpenFOAM
[12:53] <tehbaut> root filesystem, I meant
[12:53] <faaf3ja> Twister: PM?
[12:54] <Twister> ActionParsnip : so how do i get it and set it up? never had one in linux and want one
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded? did you verify the cd once booted to?
[12:54] <Twister> sure
[12:54] <UnderSampled> everything I have tried has ended this way. 8.10 works abolutly fine.
[12:54] <marc>  
[12:54] <tehbaut> what's the standard mount point to use for a partition?
[12:54] <tec411> \
[12:54] <achilles> # OpenFOAM
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !awn
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Twister: ^
[12:54] <tehbaut> tec411: / ?
[12:54] <tec411> lol
[12:54] <tehbaut> hey, it's on the menu
[12:54] <tec411> you spoted it
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: you can mount a partition anywhere you like (just not in /proc anywhere)
[12:55] <myk_robinson> using an APC battery backup and running apcaccess shows the current load % to be 0.0, although I have a computer and monitor hooked into the battery side. Any ideas?
[12:55] <tehbaut> thought everything got mounted in /media
[12:55] <jetienne> q. the multiverse repository disapeared ? or is it still the usual universe/multiverse stuff ?
[12:55] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: yes, and it checked out. But this happed with the net install usb version from unetbootin
[12:55] <marc> quit
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: most people make a new folder in /media and mount to that but there is nothing stopping you from using a folder i your home drive to mount to
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: then try some boot options
[12:55] <jrib> jetienne: still there
[12:55] <jrib> !repos > jetienne
[12:56] <UnderSampled> ActionPartnership. And most confusingly, it happened after I tried installing 8.10 and then upgrading to 9.04
[12:56] <tehbaut> ah, so /media/ubuntu
[12:56] <jrib> faaf3ja: still there?
[12:56] <jetienne> jrib: ok thanks
[12:56] <erUSUL> tec411: what does the partition (will) hold ?
[12:56] <UnderSampled> ActionPartership: from the normal 9.04 iso, all boot options exept for 'memory check' end the same way
[12:56] <jetienne> jrib: btw next time do that in public, other may need this information too
[12:56] <tehbaut> still can't get past "no root fs detected"
[12:57] <jrib> jetienne: anyonce can  /msg ubottu repos
[12:57] <cih997> hi, after recent update X crashes on loading, blinks few times and load but with low resolution and performance. I have jaunty, intel graphics, xorg-server 1.6.2 and kernel 2.6.31-rc1. I was changing xorg.conf, reinstalling xorg, trying previous kernel versions but still no change :/ What can I do?
[12:58] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: oops, I spelled your name wrong
[12:58] <Pici> !tab | UnderSampled
[12:59] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: from the normal 9.04 iso, all boot options exept for 'memory check' end the same way
[12:59] <UnderSampled> Pici: thanks, that helps alot
[12:59] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: from the normal 9.04 iso, all boot options exept for 'memory check' end the same way
[12:59] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: opps, sorry again
[13:00] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: most confusingly, it happened after I tried installing 8.10 and then upgrading to 9.04
[13:00] <achilles> hi room
[13:01] <Twister> ActionParsnip thanks sorry for the late reply i was in PM
[13:01] <UnderSampled> achilles: hello
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: try adding all the boot options.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: you could also try disabling hardware in bios like sound and lan as well as other stuff just until you get installed
[13:02] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: this is before any programs are able to load
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Twister: np man
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: yes, on first boot screen press f6 and put a cross in all the options
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: you can also access your bios in its own special way and turn off stuff to help smooth the install
[13:03] <painted> hello ubuntu people
[13:03] <painted> i am running a dual monitor set up, monitor0 works well, but monitor1 has a problem with v sync, can anyone help?
[13:03] <bluegoon> is there an Openoffice chatroom here on freenode?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> #openoffice.or
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> g
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> #openoffice.org
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> 58 users
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | painted
[13:05] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: It doesn't have anything to do with the integrity of any one disk. as I said before, I installed 8.10 and it worked just fine, then I upgraded to 9.04 and it has the same symptoms as the two disks I tried
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: i know thats why i'm suggesting other solutions
[13:05] <Ti-dev> Hi, I'm building a kernel and all I've got to do is create and initrd image. The guide I'm following says "mkinitrd" but Jaunty says "zsh: command not found: mkinitrd", any help?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !kernel
[13:06] <mistya> hi there
[13:06] <beholder83> Hi. Could someone tell me what I need to install to get DVD playback working correctly?
[13:06] <mistya> How can i install iphone sdk on my ubuntu box?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> beholder83: you need the medibuntu repo adding then install libdvdcss2
[13:06] <bluegoon> will installing Openoffice 3.1 over 3.0 override the current installation?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | beholder83
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: yes
[13:07] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip: sweet, even on win machines?
[13:07] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip: got users here complaining that xls files take ages to open.
[13:07] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip: might be that an update in version should provide a fix, was just worried that the new install would screw it up :D
[13:08] <beholder83> is it possible to use Medibuntu repos on Debian Lenny?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: couldnt tell you on that sort of thing. i dont use oo in windows
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> beholder83: I'm sure they will have a repo, ask in #debian
[13:10] <UnderSampled> ActionParsnip: I beleive that it has more to do with an incompatible kernel. the second line that is visible on my screen says: WARNING at /build/builddd/linux-2.6.28/kernal/smo.c:333 smo_function_mask+0x1d4/0x1e0()
[13:11] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip: thanks for the info mate
[13:11] <Ti-dev> ubottu: Thanks, but I wanted to build the kernel for a fix. Anyways I *DID* and now I need to create an initrd image. What's the program on Ubuntu for that? Thanks...
[13:12] <Ti-dev> ubottu: I mean since, "mkinitrd" is unavailable?
[13:12] <thhp> Ti-dev: you probably need to install initrd-tools
[13:12] <Pici> Ti-dev: ubottu cannot answer you, it is a program that responds to requests... like !kernel
[13:13] <thhp> Ti-dev: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282997
[13:13] <Ti-dev> oh? right...kk :D
[13:13] <Meteora> any program like daemontoolz?
[13:13] <Ti-dev> thhp: thanks I'll check on that :D
[13:13] <thhp> Ti-dev: np
[13:13] <grawity> Meteora: Ubuntu, like all Linux OSes, can mount ISO images without any additional software.
[13:14] <Meteora> thanx thanx
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> UnderSampled: then you could find out what that means and troubleshoot it
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Meteora: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/file.iso /media/iso
[13:15] <Pici> UnderSampled: Have you searched bugs.ubuntu.com for that? perhaps this bug has already been logged.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Meteora: or there is gnome-mount but ive not used it as the command line is so easy
[13:17] <Ti-dev> thhp: E: Couldn't find package initrd-tools :(
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> !find initrd
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Ti-dev: apt-cache search initrd | less
[13:17] <lantjie> hey guys
[13:17] <mistya> hi there
[13:17] <mistya> How can i install iphone sdk on my ubuntu box?
[13:18] <lantjie> long no chat
[13:18] <giulietta> ubuntu-it
[13:18] <UnderSampled> Does anyone know what smo.c does?
[13:18] <giulietta> #ubuntu-it
[13:18] <Pici> giulietta: /join #ubuntu-it
[13:19] <lantjie> UnderSampled: you have to google it man
[13:19] <UnderSampled> Pici: I just tried searching for smo.c, but it didn't find any bugs
[13:19] <Ti-dev> ActionParsnip: hey cool thanks, the file on Ubuntu is, "initramfs-tools"
[13:19] <lantjie> hey guys does anyone know how to install testouts in wine
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Ti-dev: np man, apt-cache is your friend ;)
[13:20] <Ti-dev> :D yeah
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | lantjie
[13:20] <lantjie> it runs but it i can't see any options
[13:20] <lantjie> oke
[13:20] <Pici> UnderSampled: What type of computer is this?
[13:21] <painted> okay problem fixed
[13:22] <Pici> UnderSampled: I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/380283 if you're interested, I'm not sure its the same issue though.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> lantjie: not all apps run, or run well. You may need extra settings or files to make it nice. It may just be like that and completely useless, or anything in between
[13:23] <UnderSampled> Pici: Its not quite the same, but It does use the smo_call_function_mask()
[13:25] <UnderSampled> Pici: I have a desktop with a pentium 4 with a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157106
[13:25] <kamil_> hi i have problem with resolution of my ubuntu desktop every restart the resolution is 600x800
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> kamil_: have you installed video drivers?
[13:27] <kamil_> yes
[13:27] <kamil_> i have nvidia geforce 2 mx400
[13:27] <lurah> Helo everybody !
[13:28] <lurah> Does anyone ever have experience using JMicro ethernet card ?
[13:28] <__machine> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS... when i run screen, i lose colours in the terminal... do i need to set some env var or .screenrc file or something?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> kamil_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> lurah: can you please pastebin the ouput of: lspci
[13:29] <kamil_> i have installed nvidia-glx 96
[13:29] <echosystm> where should i extract eclipse if i want it to NOT be stored in my home dir?
[13:29] <kamil_> it is the newest ?
[13:29] <UnderSampled> echosystm: Anywhere you want
[13:30] <Pici> UnderSampled: Hrm.  I'm not too keen on kernel errors like this.  If you're still interested in troubleshooting, you can join #ubuntu-kernel, but be patient, its not as busy as here.
[13:30] <echosystm> where are program files usually put?
[13:30] <lurah> sory I can't pate in the output of lspci now because I am on different computer now
[13:30] <Pici> echosystm: /opt is a good place for your own programs that are not installed from the repositories
[13:30] <echosystm> ok cheers
[13:30] <Xubuntnoob> when i use my mouse-wheel up/down while the mouse is hovering over the desktop, the workspaces switch back and forth, how can i bind that to mousebutton-5 + up/down? and have it switch even when the mouse is hovering over an app?
[13:31] <UnderSampled> Pici: Ok, I'll try
[13:31] <justanothercoder> ubuntu server shuts down mysteriously, using 9.04 , no messages in syslog or /var/log/messages . just says restart , but doesn't come back up either. no issues with unclean filesystems either when i turn power on . any pointers?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> kamil_: your card is not the newest so you do not want the newest driver
[13:33] <kamil_> what is the diffrence between nvidia-glx-96 and 71 ?
[13:33] <shadow451> hello?
[13:33] <kamil_> synaptic want to uninstall nvidia-glx-96
[13:33] <shadow451> this is my first time chatting
[13:34] <Pici> !nickspam > mac_v
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> kamil_: ive websearches and both seem to work. I would experiment with them both, see which gives best performance on your system
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> kamil_: then try that
[13:34] <lurah> I have a problem with JMicro ethernet card with JMC260 chipset on a netbook, everything is okey, the driver was loaded successfully but I can't connect to the network. Network Manager keep on trying to get the IP address from dhcp server but never succeeded at all
[13:35] <mac_v> Pici: oops... forgot i was also here
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> lurah: does it work if you assign a static ip suitable to your network mask
[13:36] <lurah> No, it can't work either. Ifconfig could set the IP address but when I am pinging the network it can't reach the other side
[13:36] <lantjie> hey guys i need to put ubuntu on a domain how do i do that
[13:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Anyone here using xmms2 with the equalizer plugin? If so, is the equalizer helping much, or just barely?
[13:37] <moncky> domain <domain.tld>
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> lurah: do the lights flash on both sides of the connection to show link and data
[13:38] <lantjie> hey guys i need to make ubuntu part of a domain how do i do that
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !domain
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> lantjie: i think moncky told you ;)
[13:38] <lurah> I am not sure about that, on the switch side the light flash but on the netbook side it doesn't have any led
[13:39] <dpreacher> hello
[13:39] <lantjie> ActionPartnarnip:no i didn't read it
[13:39] <lantjie> ActionPartnarnip:tell me again
[13:39] <dpreacher> Where can I check to see what's causing my SSH logins to take way too long to authenticate, whether over the LAN or the interwebs?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> lantjie:  domain <domain name>
[13:40] <lantjie> oke thanks guys
[13:40] <lantjie> verymuch
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: i hd it slow over lan, adding my host name and ip to /etc/hosts sped it up
[13:40] <lurah> I think the jme.ko driver falsly initialize the ethernet card, because jme.ko could worked with two kind of chipset i.e jmc260 whic is fast ethernet and jmc260 whic is gigabit ethernet
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: of the client system, that is
[13:41] <moncky> lantjie: though if you want to ssh to a domain you will also need to point your domain A records to that name aswell
[13:41] <thhp> dpreacher: strace could help, or possibly wireshark
[13:41] <dpreacher> not just one host ActionParsnip. it happens from all clients. its something to do with the login authentication itself. ssh itself is fast.
[13:41] <dpreacher> i could check with strace thhp
[13:41] <lurah> I think the jme.ko driver initialize the jmc260 as gigabit ethernet so it could not talk with the other side
[13:42] <dpreacher> so are you suggesting me to try strace ssh machine ip?
[13:42] <dpreacher> thhp
[13:42] <lantjie> moncky: it doesn't work
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: was the same here. The service is trying to resolve the name to an ip which it goes through various stages to try, if you add an entry in hosts then the authentication will speed up
[13:42] <thhp> dpreacher: yes, see where it hangs, it might give you something more to work on
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> lurah: then rmmod it and modprobe the good one. If its good then blacklist the bad one
[13:42] <lantjie> moncky: do i need to install something
[13:42] <flasbang73> how can i make a wubi like install for karmic?
[13:42] <lantjie> ?
[13:42] <thhp> dpreacher: alternatively a tcpdump / wireshark would tell you if it's hanging on some network access
[13:42] <dpreacher> name->ip resolution is fast...in fact on lan i use ip itself.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: download and md5 check wubi.exe
[13:43] <Xubuntnoob> i have a 5 button mouse, which buttons are the 2 thumb buttons and mousewheel-push? is there a way to re-map them?
[13:43] <lurah> How can I blacklist the driver with the same name : jme.ko
[13:43]  * jmartelatpapirux is back (gone 02:25:39)
[13:43] <Bruno_Borges> somebody knows about xmlsec1?
[13:43] <moncky> lantjie: no but you need to point your domain name to your server
[13:43] <kamil_> i also have problem with ubunu studio after installation and updating it stopped on configuring (sth)-notification. What the purpose ?
[13:43] <wemassag> how can I run Firefox 3.5 on a Ubuntu machine without having admin access?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: try it, i had exactly the same issue. Does it accept the user name then wait for a while by any chance?
[13:43] <dpreacher> someone suggested to check if there are some auditing taking place during login...is there any such concept in ubuntu? as far as shell access is concerned
[13:43] <wemassag> there is 1.0.7 installed...
[13:43] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: im not that good with it could you give me the steps
[13:44] <lantjie> moncky: how do i do that
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: its made for windows users, all you do is double click it and read the screen
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> wemassag: you just press alt+f2  tpe firefox-3.5 and press enter
[13:44] <dpreacher> ActionParsnip. it shows the user login prompt quickly...it even shows the password login prompt quickly...it even shows that ur password is wrong fairly quickly but when its got to get into bash...it waits quite a while
[13:44] <kamil_> I installed this distro 3 times and 3 times the same
[13:44] <moncky> lantjie: you should speak to the people who host your domain, they will do it for you
[13:44] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: ya i know that ive used wubi before but i want to install 9.10 with it
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: then get the ISO of the distro you want to use and point wubi at it
[13:45] <lurah> After so many trial without any result I install Fedora 11 on the same machine, without doing anything the netbook now could connect to the network even with dynamic IP from the dhcp server
[13:45] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: i told you im not that good i don't know how to point it at it
[13:45] <faaf3ja> Anyone know how I can rearrange directories without really moving them around? Just making it look that way. Something with symlinks perhaps?
[13:45] <lurah> Could it be the jme.ko driver on Ubuntu 9.04 lack of something ?
[13:45] <wemassag> sorry, but that's the problem: there is 1.0.7 installed and I need to run FF3 or FF3.5 without being able to install it
[13:46] <salvatore_> hello
[13:47] <wemassag>  sorry, but that's the problem: there is 1.0.7 installed and I need to run FF3 or FF3.5 without being able to install it
[13:47] <thhp> lurah: do 9.04 and F11 use different kernel releases ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> !wubi | flasbang73
[13:48] <kitche> wemassag: using a portable app
[13:48] <lurah> I think so, if I am not wrong 9.04 use 2.6.28 while F11 use 2.6.29
[13:48] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: Im not having problems with it i just want to know how to get it to install ubuntu 9.10
[13:49] <thhp> lurah: possibly it's worth checking the changelog between 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 to see whether anything changed for your chipset ?
[13:49] <fetch> hi karamella
[13:49] <wemassag> @kitche I'm no Linux native... sorry is there a way that I'm able to do that or should I wait (for 6h) to get the admin-rights
[13:49] <fetch> you still there
[13:50] <dpreacher> thhp from where should i try wireshark/tcpdump or strace? and on which command?
[13:50] <lurah> I'll try to find where is the sourcecode for this jme.ko driver, could you tell me where is it ? because I have serach with many option but I can't find it
[13:50] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: i found this website that says something about karmic wubi but nowhere to get it
[13:50] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: its https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/KarmicWubi
[13:51] <thhp> dpreacher: strace ssh <user>@<ip>.  For tcpdump, you could probably do it on the machine you're ssh-ing from
[13:51] <lurah> I want to try to compile the driver to make sure about it
[13:51] <dpreacher> thanks thhp
[13:51] <thhp> dpreacher: something like "tcpdump -i eth0 tcp and port 22" might be a good start, but of course man tcpdump is your friend
[13:52] <Pici> flasbang73: Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu
[13:52] <thhp> wemassag: you can install FF in your home directory without admin rights
[13:52] <flasbang73> pici: thank you
[13:53] <wemassag> thhp: how?
[13:53] <wemassag> I downloaded the tar.bz2 file and unzipped it
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: i don't use wubi so you know as much as i.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: karmic isnt supported here, its in #ubuntu+1
[13:54] <thhp> wemassag: so you should have a directory "firefox", yes ?
[13:54] <thhp> wemassag: so, "cd ./firefox; ./firefox" should launch it
[13:54] <mm091266>    
[13:55] <kniht> thhp: is there a way to get it to leave the config files in $HOME from the system installation of firefox alone?
[13:55] <Lantizia> Where's the "Startup Application" data saved?! what config file?  or is it gconf?
[13:55] <kniht> Lantizia: I think it's a script ran when you login, look for an rc-like file in ~
[13:56] <Lantizia> kniht, don't see any rc like files
[13:56] <thhp> kniht: I'm not sure, sorry.  FWIW, I have managed to mix-and-match FF installations without issues.  But if you want a reproducible setup, I don't know.
[13:56] <sprint> ciao
[13:57] <sprint> !list
[13:57] <ducky__> Hii
[13:57] <kniht> thhp: read a warning that I need to backup the config first, so I haven't gone further, would really like to try it (longer term--while still using 3.0) before committing
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: some can e defined in ~/config/autostart
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: if you symlink the .desktop files in  /usr/share/applications for the app you wish to autorun, it will
[13:58] <wemassag> thhp: opened the terminal, after compying the folder and got "error while loading shared libraries:..."
[13:58] <dpreacher> thhp i ran strace and i see that at a certain fixed point of output...the strace output just waits for a really long time...no outputs during this time...n then after it continues on to finish the login...
[13:58] <dpreacher> i think i need to check motd or something
[13:58] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, thats not the place I'm asking about however
[13:59] <thhp> dpreacher: what syscall does it hang on ?
[14:00] <dpreacher> it hung on some numbers ... i'll redo n tell you...thhp
[14:00] <dbrewer_rjr> dcc seems to be missing from the hardy repositories?
[14:01] <dpreacher> thhp select syscall
[14:01] <dpreacher>              select(7, [3], [], NULL, NULL
[14:01] <dpreacher> after that NULL it holds its breath n doesnt speak a character
[14:01] <dpreacher> thhp
[14:01] <mbn_18> Is it possible to get rid of firefox3.0 ?? When I install the 3.5 it somehow add the 3.0
[14:02] <Pici> dbrewer_rjr: I only see that package in dapper's repos, none of our other releases.
[14:02] <dbrewer_rjr> so how do i install dcc? is it unstable or something?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !startup | Lantizia
[14:02] <dbrewer_rjr> Pici: so how do i install dcc? is it unstable or something?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !dcc
[14:03] <thhp> dpreacher: can you dissect the output to figure out which fd 7 equates to from select(7, ..) ?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> !find dcc
[14:03] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, I already know how to do it graphically, I still weant to know where it's saved however
[14:03] <Lantizia> *want
[14:03] <Pici> dbrewer_rjr: I'm not familiar with that package. what does it do?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: i'd imagine in gconf someplace, not sure
[14:03] <dpreacher> thhp, i cud do it, if u guide me a little bit
[14:03] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, nope I checked there
[14:03] <dpreacher> fd = file descriptor?
[14:03] <timic> join ubuntu-rs
[14:03] <stratocaster> hi
[14:03] <dpreacher> do i use lsof?
[14:03] <dpreacher> thhp
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: you could grep your home dir recursively for text pertaining to some app you have loading at startup
[14:04] <stratocaster> for delete a protect file i must write sudo rm -R file, right?
[14:04] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, been doing that, no luck so far
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: linux stuff is usually in plain text so will show up
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: bah
[14:04] <Lantizia> I know
[14:04] <prodigel> hi all. I'm having an old problem with cups: it takes forever to print images/sometimes pdf files. The printer is a kyocera
[14:04] <thhp> dpreacher: look for the open() call which returns the fd you're interested in
[14:05] <jrib> stratocaster: what do you mean by "protect"?  What are you trying to do?
[14:05] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, made a script that downloads, configures and installs a windows app but at the end I want it in startup you see... so there is no launcher to symlink
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: you could make a new user, then se tripwire to watch the home dir
[14:05] <ducky__> hi everybody, i'm new on ubuntu and i would like to know how i could, on irc, see my different channel ?
[14:05] <dpreacher> ok thhp
[14:05] <thhp> dpreacher: it would probably help to use strace's -o option to output to a file for easier analysis
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: then make a change and tripwire will alert at the change, and where
[14:05] <diddy> What does this command do (it is from an example in a book): chown $1.users /home/$1/shared ???
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ducky__: depends on client
[14:05] <dpreacher> oh i was trying to > output thhp :)
[14:05] <Lantizia> ActionParsnip, how do I use tripwire?  I don't mind experimenting on my own profile
[14:05] <dbrewer_rjr> Pici: dcc is an anti-spam program, like pyzor
[14:05] <ducky__> I use irssi
[14:05] <jrib> diddy: nothing
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Lantizia: not used it myself, i just know of it and what it does. Its good for servers to watch system sensitive files arent being messed with
[14:06] <flasbang73> do you reccomend 32-bit or 64-bit 9.04?
[14:06] <diddy> jrib, ???
[14:06] <ugliefrog> I keep getting error in firefox. please add flash player to display content. I have flash player. Sometimes it works i.e. loads and sometimes it dont help! :(
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: depends how much ram you have and what the system is for
[14:06] <jrib> diddy: read the beginner and advanced bash guides at tldp.org instead.  The command you pasted is taken out of context.  When you run a script $1 corresponds to the first argument.  You should be able to see what it does then
[14:07] <Pici> dbrewer_rjr: Looks like there were security problems, see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcc
[14:08] <diddy> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1494652
[14:08] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: i have 2gb ram and i use my computer for lots of stuff from security testing to just regular games
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: > 4Gb RAM get 64bit. for audio and video encoding systems get 64bit, for bog basic desktop + word processing etc then 32bit is fine
[14:08] <jrib> diddy: right.  Are you asking what « chown » does?
[14:09] <diddy> jrib, no $1.users
[14:09] <diddy> jrib, What does username.users do?
[14:09] <jrib> diddy: well do you know how to use chown?  '.' used to be used instead of ':'
[14:09] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: so i should get 64-bit or not i know my computer supports it
[14:09] <ugliefrog> I keep getting error in firefox. please add flash player to display content. I have flash player. Sometimes it works i.e. loads and sometimes it dont help! :(
[14:09] <ducky__> Please, how on irssi i can see my different channel on irc ?
[14:09] <diddy> jrib, you can use a dot? I always use a colon only. OK WOW
[14:10] <dbrewer_rjr> Pici: that is dated over a year ago, but it prolly still isn't fixed. thanks.
[14:10] <jrib> diddy: '.' is deprecated iirc
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: 32bit will do you fine but 64bit will run equally as well. May as well take advantage of it but both systems will run fine
[14:10] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: i just know its a pain to get flash player and stuff on it
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> flasbang73: then 32bit is for you, plugins will be easier for you
[14:11] <A|i> I cannot believe there is no firefox 3.5 for ubuntu yet!
[14:11] <flasbang73> ActionParsnip: thank you
[14:11] <Pici> A|i: Yes.. there is.
[14:11] <Pici> !ff35 | A|i
[14:11] <ducky__> Please, how on irssi i can see my different channel on irc ?
[14:11] <A|i> Pici, why is that apt-update doesn't show it to me
[14:11] <Pici> A|i: Please read the message from ubottu, it explains how to install it.
[14:11] <jrib> ducky__: /b #channel    or alt-NUMBER_CORRESPONDING_TO_CHANNEL
[14:12] <A|i> picca, thanks
[14:12] <dpreacher> thhp i went thru the strace log that i created for open() calls the format is open(filepath) = number...do i look for 7 in that number
[14:12] <Pici> jrib: /b is an alias for ban here...
[14:12] <dhq> i have a dell m1530 now i have 3 jacks which support 5.1 channel. the problem is i cant get kubuntu to work with it please help me
[14:12] <jrib> Pici: heh used to weechat, is it /buffer or /window in irssi...?
[14:13] <grawity> It's /window
[14:13] <grawity> Or /w
[14:13] <Pici> jrib: /w
[14:13] <jrib> ducky__: note what Pici said
[14:13] <thhp> dpreacher: yes -- find the last open() call which returned the fd that select() is hanging on
[14:14] <thhp> dpreacher: and that'll tell you what ssh is waiting for
[14:14] <Breaking_Pitt> #freeswmaster
[14:14] <Breaking_Pitt> sorry
[14:14] <thhp> dpreacher: by referring to the select() args you should be able to tell whether it's waiting to read something
[14:14] <jrib> ducky__: http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c2
[14:14] <thhp> dpreacher: ... or blocking on writing something
[14:15] <dpreacher> thhp there was a write() call immediately before it
[14:15] <dpreacher> still lookin more into it
[14:15] <mbn_18> Hi, where I can set which app to use to open links in gnome?
[14:15] <nasedo> hello, i have a problem
[14:15] <thhp> dpreacher: that would make sense if it had just requested something over the network, right ?
[14:15] <nasedo> my icons in the notification area are invisible
[14:16] <topher_> What's the best Ubuntu build in your guys opinion?
[14:16] <thhp> dpreacher: ie: write(); /* wait for response */ select(); ..
[14:16] <nasedo> i can click them and all, but cant see them
[14:16] <igsen> !apt-url
[14:16] <topher_> 9.04 seems to be running slow for me..
[14:16] <dpreacher> yep thhp
[14:16] <nasedo> its the same behavior in gnome and kde
[14:16] <igsen> !apturl
[14:16] <Lantizia> Can I run something to watch what files another program is meddling with?
[14:16] <dpreacher> ubottu doesnt know apturl?
[14:16] <nasedo> Lantizia: lsof
[14:17] <dpreacher> not being intelligent is not an error ubottu
[14:17] <Lantizia> nasedo, it didn't pick it up
[14:17] <Pici> dpreacher: ubottu only knows what we've taught it, if you have a suggestion for it, please see /msg ubottu usage for the proper syntax to suggest factoids.
[14:17] <Lantizia> nasedo, that seems to be network traffic only
[14:17] <dpreacher> Pici ok thanks...nice of you...dont feel bad about your bot
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: teach her if you want
[14:18] <dpreacher> thhp so do u think i should further debug it at the sshd end
[14:18] <nasedo> Lantizia: lsof should list all files opened by the program at the moment
[14:18] <thhp> dpreacher: did you discover what the select() is waiting on ?
[14:19] <edgar4385> Hi, my firefox doesn´t start anymore after it crashed, there is a proces but nothing happens.
[14:19] <nasedo> edgar4385: try killing it first, killall firefox-bin
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> edgar4385: try firefox -safe
[14:19] <Shwaiil> Hi ppl
[14:20] <Lantizia> nasedo, doesn't seem to have any file open... how can I get lsof to continually monitor as I do things?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> edgar4385: check by running: ps -ef | grep -i fire
[14:20] <Shwaiil> What do you people think about the anouncement of google Chrome OS based in linux ?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Shwaiil
[14:20] <UnderSampled> Pici: hggdh from #ubuntu-bugs just confirmed that it is indeed a kernel issue, based on the fact that the caps/scroll lock keys are blinking
[14:20] <dpreacher> thhp not much clues with the select() calls should i look for a read or write call just before it?
[14:22] <thhp> dpreacher: I'd suggest you still want to discover what select() is hanging on
[14:22] <topher_> I have my laptop hooked up to my TV, when I open a browser and hit maximize, it takes up both screens instead of just one.. help?
[14:22] <dpreacher> yes i do...doing...to be done
[14:22] <dpreacher> thhp
[14:23] <thhp> dpreacher: oh, ok
[14:23] <nasedo> Lantizia: dont know, sorry
[14:23] <Lantizia> nasedo, got it :) saves it in ~/config/autostart
[14:23] <coleys> topher_: Have it set to Dual, and not twin?
[14:23] <Lantizia> nasedo, just confused me as it only saves new items (that arn't saved globally) in there
[14:24] <thhp> dpreacher: in case it helps, something like:  grep "^open.*= $FD" foo.txt  | tail -n1   will show you the last open call in foo.txt which returned $FD
[14:24] <topher_> Coleys: How do I do that? I'm in display settings and do not see that.
[14:24] <dpreacher> let me try that
[14:25] <nasedo> Lantizia: kk:)
[14:25] <edgar4385> firefox -safe changes nothing
[14:25] <coleys> topher_: Are you using nvidia or ati?
[14:25] <edgar4385> and ps -ef | grep -i fire give an output I can´t dont understand
[14:25] <topher_> ATI HD2600
[14:25] <dpreacher> does that $FD become a shell variable...it gave 4 in my case, thhp
[14:25] <coleys> topher_: Not sure about ati. Sorry x.x
[14:25] <edgar4385> -can't
[14:26] <_UsUrPeR_> ok
[14:26] <topher_> =/
[14:26] <_UsUrPeR_> What's the best solution to make Ubuntu not suck with an Intel video card in Jaunty?
[14:26] <erUSUL> !intel
[14:26] <topher_> Hmm..
[14:26] <coleys> _UsUrPeR_: buy a nvidia graphics crd?
[14:26] <topher_> How do I downgrade from 9.04 to say 8.04?
[14:26] <shaullx> where is the audacious folder?
[14:27] <deany> _UsUrPeR_,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-intel-graphics-drivers-for-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty.html  try that
[14:27] <jrib> topher_: reinstall
[14:27] <_UsUrPeR_> coleys: lulz. not an option. 1U server :(
[14:27] <topher_> :O
[14:27] <topher_> Jrib: Doe's it deleted all my files and such?
[14:27] <_UsUrPeR_> thanks guys
[14:27] <dpreacher> thhp immediately before the select call that was hanging was the write call write(3, "M\305E\0\32j\305\241\322x+\360\332SY\233~\353\2\335\"\252\37\306\f\315\342\2\370*a\7"..., 64) = 64
[14:27] <jrib> topher_: if you reinstall, yes.  You have to take proper precautions
[14:28] <nasedo> Does anyone have an idea why icons in the notification area might be invisible?
[14:28] <dpreacher> what are these sequences? any hints?
[14:28] <edgar4385> edgar     5521  3181  0 15:23 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i fire
[14:29] <gartral> ok, after the dbus update, what commands can i issue to "soft reset" the system?
[14:29] <richardcavell> nasedo: Turn on notification panel
[14:30] <nasedo> richardcavell: its turned on, but instead of icons there is just blank space
[14:30] <erUSUL> gartral: soft rset ? no bios post etc ? telinit to 1 (single user) and back to 2 may suffice but have not checked
[14:30] <nasedo> i can click icons like i normally do just dont see them
[14:30] <richardcavell> nasedo: You've rebooted?
[14:30] <thhp> dpreacher: what is fd 3 ?
[14:30] <richardcavell> nasedo: or restarted X?
[14:30] <nasedo> richardcavell: yeah, and its the same behavior in gnome and kde
[14:31] <dpreacher> you mean to grep for all open() calls with 3 as fd? thhp
[14:31] <thhp> dpreacher: yes
[14:31] <gartral> erUSUL: i tried sudo /etc/init.d/dbus reset... which mostly worked accept HAL Networking, and certain hardware didnt work afterwards
[14:31] <thhp> dpreacher: that is: open calls which return 3
[14:31] <richardcavell> nasedo: Same in Gnome and KDE! Crikey, I don't understand that.
[14:31] <dpreacher> i'll pastebin n giv u the link thhp
[14:32] <wa2321> Hello. i have a problem... who assist me?
[14:32] <gartral> !help
[14:32] <gartral> !help | wa2321
[14:32] <richardcavell> wa2321: What's your problem?
[14:32] <legend2440> topher_: open system>admin>hardware drivers  are the drivers for you ati card activated?
[14:33] <dpreacher> thhp http://dpaste.com/66970/
[14:33] <termos> anyone know how to fix the problem with network manager and EDUROAM?
[14:33] <dpreacher> coudl you please take a look thhp
[14:33] <dpreacher> could*
[14:33] <wa2321> I have a problem with my new server UBUNTU SERVER EDTION ( ubuntu-8.04.2-server-i386.iso ) http://forum.linux.ro/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=45762 this is the topic..
[14:34] <wa2321> i have installed the OS on VMWARE, i have selected LAMP+OPENSSH but when i want to download something is not working on the server
[14:35] <The_Toxic_Mite> Hey guys
[14:35] <The_Toxic_Mite> :)
[14:36] <thhp> dpreacher: hum -- all but one of those are O_RDONLY, and the one that's O_RDWR is /dev/null :-p
[14:36] <thhp> dpreacher: could you pastebin the whole strace log highlighting where it hangs ?
[14:37] <dpreacher> thhp am trying something...will paste strace.log after that...but how do i highlight the line...some other pastebin?
[14:37] <UnderSampled> Pici: What is the likely hood that 9.10 would work better? Is there anything about it that you can tell is "unfinished"?
[14:38] <gartral> erUSUL: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart got most back, but still cant network
[14:38] <faaf3ja> How do I set the default group for /dev/ttyS0 on boot only?
[14:38] <firestarter1> hi. how can I easily add/remove NEW services to the OS ?
[14:39] <nasedo> richardcavell: i meant to say that i tried installing gnome-panel to check if notification area would work there, and its the same
[14:39] <thhp> dpreacher: just tell me the line number, add a comment to the file -- as you wish
[14:39] <bruenig> firestarter1: what is a service? a daemon?
[14:39] <UnderSampled> Pici: which would you suggest: A) Stick with 8.10  B) Do somthing to fix 9.04's kernel C) switch to an alpha of 9.10
[14:40] <dpreacher> ok its line 488 gotta see if this paste site will take too many lines
[14:40] <firestarter1> bruenig: a program which starts just before the windows manager starts
[14:40] <bruenig> 488 is a trivial number of lines
[14:40] <richardcavell> nasedo: okay, well that makes more sense
[14:40] <oldude67> UnderSampled, 9.10 is no where near stable .
[14:40] <thhp> dpreacher: just paste up to the hanging call, that's enough
[14:40] <bruenig> firestarter1: ...there are tons of things that do that
[14:41] <oldude67> UnderSampled, its also discussed in #ubuntu+1
[14:41] <thomson> if i'm going to have /home as a seperate partition, what should i make /root if my hdd is 300 GB
[14:41] <thomson> ?
[14:41] <firestarter1> bruenig: tell me one
[14:41] <dpreacher> i pasted the write call here thhp should i paste it again?
[14:41] <bruenig> thomson: 10GB
[14:41] <bruenig> firestarter1: hal
[14:41] <thomson> k
[14:41] <UnderSampled> oldude67: so far, 9.04 has been very stablely not working
[14:41] <richardcavell> thomson: are you suggesting that you want /root to have its own partition too?
[14:42] <A|i> picca, firefox 3.5 uses a different profile than firefox 3.0 in ubuntu?
[14:42] <A|i> that's a mess
[14:42] <sexmaniac> ciao
[14:42] <sexmaniac> !list
[14:42] <bruenig> richardcavell: I presume he really means / not /root
[14:42] <firestarter1> bruenig: hal is for devices
[14:42] <thomson> richardcavell: yes
[14:42] <bruenig> firestarter1: it starts before the window manager does
[14:42] <faaf3ja> What's the proper techical reason a GUI can't be run over a serial connection?
[14:42] <sivel> does anyone have a .desktop file for Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko)?
[14:42] <bruenig> firestarter1: as does dbus for instance, and cron and syslog
[14:42] <thomson> richardcavell: should i not do that?
[14:43] <A|i> also, no google toolbar support for firfox 3.5 in ubuntu
[14:43] <bruenig> sivel: change the one you have where it says Exec=, make it point to the shiretoko executable
[14:43] <A|i> what happened to ubuntu!
[14:43] <firestarter1> bruenig: you did not get the point. I have to start my_program after booting
[14:43] <bruenig> firestarter1: I do not get the point indeed. What is a service.
[14:43] <firestarter1> and I need an utility for configuring that
[14:44] <bruenig> firestarter1: on other distros, a service is another name for a daemon like hal. I don't know what my_program is.
[14:44] <bruenig> is it is daemon, or is it some throwaway autostart command you want the DE to run
[14:44] <richardcavell> thomson: No, that's okay, I was confused by your question.
[14:44] <firestarter1> bruenig: my_program is a program. It's not a daemon
[14:44] <richardcavell> You can have / and /home on different partitions, for sure
[14:44] <bruenig> firestarter1: a daemon is a program
[14:44] <bruenig> the kernel is a program
[14:44] <bruenig> they are all programs
[14:44] <sivel> bruenig: I removed the firefox and firefox-3.0 packages during the install to 3.5.  I guess I could reinstall temporarily.  I just don't feel like creating my own .desktop file from scratch
[14:44] <bluegoon> Guys, how do i mount the root partition in order to edit the fstab?
[14:44] <firestarter1> bruenig: ok, I'm wasting time with you
[14:44] <bruenig> firestarter1: firestarter is a program too
[14:45] <bruenig> sivel: let me paste one for you
[14:45] <sivel> bruenig: appreciated
[14:45] <bruenig> sivel: http://pastebin.com/f6a75898f
[14:45] <sivel> bruenig: thanks again
[14:46] <thomson> PRIMARY: windows (1x NTFS, 50GB), ubuntu (1x ext3 root 10GB, 1x swap file 2GB, 1x ext3 home 50GB) LOGICAL: storage (1x NTFS rest of hdd space)
[14:46] <thomson> how is that?
[14:46] <thomson> so that makes 4 primary partitions and one logical
[14:47] <ugliefrog> err....does anyone know how to fix the flash problem with firefox
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> thomson: if the shared data area is for all users, you don't really need a large home directory at all, you can symlink folders in ~/ to the shared partition
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> thomson: this will give you more space in the shared area
[14:48] <bruenig> ugliefrog: what problem is that
[14:48] <thomson> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by that?
[14:49] <ugliefrog> bruenig: Sometimes flash content works no problem...thn sometime it say no flash install adobe flash player...which is installed
[14:49] <dpreacher> thhp http://pastebin.ca/1494686 check line 488 n 489
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> thomson: a symlink is like a shortcut in windows but is much more powerful (no suprise there), you can throw stuff at the link and it will appear on the shared partition but will appear to be saved in your home directory
[14:49] <richardcavell> thomson: If you have a 300 gig hard disk, I think you're skimping on your / (root) partition
[14:50] <richardcavell> thomson: Put your / partition as 25 gigs and your /home partition as 35 gigs
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: depends on his needs. My / is only using 3Gb
[14:50] <thomson> richardcavell: ok, someone told me to set it as 10 before
[14:50] <thomson> lol
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> thomson: whats the system for?
[14:50] <richardcavell> thomson: And how much RAM do you have?  Is your swap partition enough?  Do you have a laptop?  Do you need to hibernate?
[14:51] <thomson> ActionParsnip: just general use
[14:51] <progre55> hi people! how to you lsof to see open files from just one process? or process id
[14:51] <thomson> richardcavell: 2GB ram, and it's a desktop
[14:51] <porter1> Would anyone happen to know if pkg-config caches somehow? In my makefile, I have a pkg-config that isn't outputting the correct flags
[14:51] <Blizzerand> Hello there , I had posted a thread in the ubuntu forums about partitioning under the Username *Twittery* . But unfortunately I can't find the thread . Help please
[14:51] <thomson> richardcavell: no need to hibernate
[14:51] <pebo_> progre55: lsof | grep ^firefox
[14:51] <shane2peru> quick and easy question, if I set my power management settings to sleep after one hour and I start a rsync process that will last more than one hour, will my computer go to sleep?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> thomson: if its for web browsing and the like then 10gb is fine, games will be installed to ~/ for the space so 10Gb for / is fine
[14:52] <shane2peru> or will rsync count as the computer being busy?
[14:52] <progre55> pebo_ thanks :)
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> thomson: 2Gb for swap will be fine, for general use I doubt you will even need it as you have enouh ram
[14:52] <thomson> ActionParsnip: i'll be using windows for gaming
[14:52] <thomson> ActionParsnip: ubuntu for everything else
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> thomson: then 10Gb is fine
[14:52] <progre55> pebo_, and how to count them? :)
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> thomson: for /
[14:52] <richardcavell> thomson: I'd still up the size of /, since you're not short on hard disk space.
[14:52] <thomson> k
[14:53] <porter1> Anyone know? I'm not sure why my makefile is not running pkg-config right
[14:53] <progre55> pebo_, oh and I've used the -p option to specify the process ID (lsof -p #process)
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> thomson: just make sure that the shared ntfs is user writable and then you can create links to folders on it
[14:53] <Blizzerand> Any one ??
[14:53] <richardcavell> thomson: And by the way, are you running any software like VirtualBox or 3D modelling, etc?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> thomson: you'll need about a 10Gb home folder if you do as all the data for both OSes will be on one partition, also makes backups easier as you can backup the command partition and the small home partition
[14:54] <thomson> richardcavell: no, but if i did?
[14:54] <richardcavell> thomson: VirtualBox can chew up disk space like buggery.
[14:54] <shane2peru> will a rsync process keep my power management setup from sleeping?  or is power management only based on keyboard/mouse activity?
[14:54] <pebo_> progre55: lsof | grep ^firefox | wc -l
[14:54] <Blizzerand> k . I want to unmount my current partition but there is a lock . What wwas the command to unmount  my current partitioning
[14:54] <richardcavell> shane2peru: rsync generates network activity, doesn't it?  That will keep it awake.
[14:54] <thomson> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:54] <thomson> richardcavell: ah
[14:55] <richardcavell> thomson: I have a 16 Gig / partition that contains everything on Ubuntu
[14:55] <shane2peru> richardcavell: actually in this instance, I'm copying out to external hdd, no network
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> thomson: if you do get into virtualboxes etc, then move the generate folder to the common partition and symlink it ;)
[14:55] <richardcavell> thomson: I had 12 Gigs free, and installed Windows 7 on VirtualBox, and ended up with a disk full error before I had even got Win 7 to do anything useful
[14:55] <thomson> ActionParsnip: common partition?
[14:56] <thomson> richardcavell: lol
[14:56] <progre55> pebo_, cool, thanks, appreciate )
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> thomson: the partition that both systems will access
[14:56] <thomson> ActionParsnip: ah
[14:56] <guest1> hello can anyone help me I installed ubuntu 9.04 on my external drive on a machine that had vista on it's internal, and it's installed grub and it wont let me just boot up with vista and if the external isnt registered it gives an error 21....
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: sounds right for win7 ;)
[14:56] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: My advice is increase the size of the root partition. Like I say, you're not short on hard disk space.  I have a 60 Gig internal hard disk in my laptop and I have to ration disk space
[14:57] <thomson> richardcavell: how does th 16 GB / partition contain everything?
[14:57] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone know any tricks to keeping power management from sleeping while a particular process is running?  prefer something commandline
[14:57] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Mind you I was downloading games on Steam when it froze!
[14:57] <slango> so, I accidentally deleted my /etc/apache2/ENVVARS file yesterday
[14:57] <shane2peru> like ping desktop?
[14:57] <slango> and reinstalling apache2-common isn't putting it back
[14:57] <slango> any ideas?
[14:57] <richardcavell> thomson: I just ran Disk Usage Analyser. Total Capacity: 16.6 Gig. Used: 3.8
[14:57] <faaf3ja> Can someone tell me what exactly ttyS0 is?
[14:58] <guest1> :'(
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> thomson: you could even just mount the common drive as /home/$USER and use it that way, when the XP boots it will see the files.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> !grub | guest1
[14:58] <thomson> ActionParsnip: if it's formatted as ext3?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ThomasG3L: you can have your home partition on ntfs afaik
[14:59] <richardcavell> shane2peru: If you find out the answer let me know too - as to whether rsync will keep the computer on
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> thomson: see above
[14:59] <guest1> action, ubotto: havent lost grub - gained grub.. need to get back to booting with vista or family will freak lol
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ThomasG3L: sorry dude, wrong target
[14:59] <faaf3ja> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty sure guest1 means the other way around.
[14:59] <Blizzerand>  I want to unmount my current partition but there is a lock . What wwas the command to unmount my current partitioning . Please help
[14:59] <hbekel> Blizzerand: explain "lock"
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> guest1: then you need your vista cd and install NTLDR if you only want to boot vista
[14:59] <erUSUL> faaf3ja: a serial port device
[14:59] <shane2peru> richardcavell: I'm pretty sure power management only looks for keyboard/mouse activity
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Blizzerand: sudo umount /mount/point
[15:00] <guest1> action: can't just remove grub and return to normal ?
[15:00] <faaf3ja> erUSUL: Any reason why one wouldn't be able to run a GUI over it?
[15:00] <thomson> ActionParsnip: so i can format the home partiton as ntfs?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Blizzerand: if its busy run:  lsof | grep /mount/point | less
[15:00] <faaf3ja> guest1: Boot up ubuntu, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and uncomment the lines that refer to windows. Most of the time that should fix it.
[15:00] <shane2peru> richardcavell: I recently setup my power management to sleep after an hour, and the proccess I had setup to record a web broadcast at 3PM started, but was cut short, power management went to sleep.
[15:00] <Blizzerand> ActionParsnip : Thanks
[15:00] <thhp> dpreacher: on line 261 the socket with fd 3 is opened; that's what we write to in line 488 just before the long-hanging select() in 489
[15:01] <richardcavell> shane2peru: You can disable power saving though, can't you?
[15:01] <erUSUL> faaf3ja: define "over it" ? a serial device is very low speed it is obsolete now most new computers no longer has one
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ThomasG3L: you'd do it in windows, then you'd edit /etc/fstab to mount it as /home with appropriate access to give you write access
[15:01] <dpreacher> thhp. looking @ 261
[15:01] <guest1> faaf: ok will try.. will computer boot to vista without external then ?
[15:01] <thhp> dpreacher: and when select() returns the next thing that happens is we read from fd 3
[15:01] <thhp> dpreacher: i.e. from the socket
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> thomson: ThomasG3L: you'd do it in windows, then you'd edit /etc/fstab to mount it as /home with appropriate access to give you write access
[15:01] <erUSUL> faaf3ja: it was used for modems; mouses and other low speed things etc back in the day
[15:01] <shane2peru> richardcavell: yes, but the point is I want it on, but want to find a way to disable it automatically for certain things, and then leave it on for all the rest of the time
[15:01] <MaleXachi> What can I resize hard disk mn adjust ubuntu? Because I want to reduce the space
[15:01] <dpreacher> right thhp
[15:01] <thhp> dpreacher: probably the next thing to do is attempt to work out what the request sent in 488 is
[15:02] <erUSUL> MaleXachi: use gparted from the livecd
[15:02] <faaf3ja> erUSUL: Ah, so too slow for a GUI I guess. Makes sense.
[15:02] <dpreacher> so its the socket call that is the issue thhp
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> thomson: windows will also be able to read it fine as its ntfs
[15:02] <richardcavell> shane2peru: Perhaps you could add something to the launcher
[15:02] <faaf3ja> guest1: Yes. But you won't be able to run ubuntu without the external hard drive.
[15:02] <thhp> dpreacher: possibly; I think it's just pending a while on a response from the remote host
[15:02] <erUSUL> faaf3ja: you can connect with a terminal-serial client like minicom
[15:02] <erUSUL> !info minicom
[15:02] <thomson> ActionParsnip: hmm, ok, what would i have to put in /etc/fstab to make it do that?
[15:03] <guest1> faaf - ok that is desired result.  so edit menu.lst and remove any reference to windows yes ?
[15:03] <shane2peru> richardcavell: probably there is something I could do to imitate a keyboard or mouse movement, or something to kick off screen saver or something to keep computer active
[15:03] <faaf3ja> guest1: Install the boot loader that comes with the System Rescue CD. That should fix everything.
[15:03] <MaleXachi> erUSUL: From livecd scale? But it always takes a long time or not then?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> thomson: its too complex to explain in irc, if you websearch then you will find guides
[15:03] <Blizzerand> ActionParsnip : What does that command do
[15:03] <faaf3ja> guest1: UNCOMMENT references to to windows. Not remove them.
[15:03] <dpreacher> thhp, can u suggest if there is some other forum or channel i can get a more elaborate insight into the workings of the socket call
[15:03] <guest1> faaf3ja - system rescue cd ???  didnt get anything like that with computer.. renting it.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> thomson: you may find the installer has an option to set it up for you
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Blizzerand: which one?
[15:03] <faaf3ja> erUSUL: Thanks. Perfect.
[15:03] <guest1> faaf - ok will try
[15:03] <forces> where can I download ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS?
[15:03] <erUSUL> MaleXachi: you can not edit mounted partitions livecd is the only option
[15:03] <faaf3ja> guest1: It's a free CD you download.
[15:03] <thomson> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[15:04] <Blizzerand>  ActionParsnip : lsof | grep /mount/point | less
[15:04] <guest1> faaf - ok i'll do that too.
[15:04] <MaleXachi> erUSUL: Oh okay, thanks
[15:04] <thhp> dpreacher: possibly asking the openssh team would be a good place to start
[15:04] <ducky__> Please, how on irssi i can see my different channel on irc ?
[15:04] <thhp> dpreacher: they might have a more relevent insight
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> forces: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/hardy/daily-live/current/
[15:04] <dpreacher> btw thhp despite so many open calls with 3 as fd how'd you reckon it could've been the socket() call? did you search all over for =3 ?
[15:04] <guest1> faaf - simple to install boot loader on rescue cd ?
[15:04] <richardcavell> shane2peru: There's a piece of hardware called mouse jiggler that does that
[15:04] <dpreacher> i think so too thhp
[15:04] <dpreacher> thanks
[15:04] <ducky__> Please, how on irssi i can see my different channel on irc ?
[15:04] <richardcavell> slowly moves your mouse back and forth. It looks like a flash drive. Just plugs into USB
[15:05] <shane2peru> richardcavell: ohh, let me look into that!
[15:05] <forces> that's a daily build
[15:05] <erUSUL> ducky__: change btween open channels ? Alt + number
[15:05] <faaf3ja> guest1: It's a lot of guessing. But if you get it wrong you can just start over. You won't lose any data.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Blizzerand: lsof shows all open files (hence lsof). It greps for files on the mount point, then shoves it into less so if there is a lot of text it doesnt scroll the screen like mad
[15:05] <Pici> ducky__: Didn't we answer you about an hour ago?
[15:05] <ducky__> 1
[15:05] <richardcavell> shane2peru: Just google mouse jiggler
[15:05] <forces> when will be avaible in the official mirrors?
[15:05] <thhp> dpreacher: more or less -- it occurred to me that socket() also returns an fd
[15:05] <richardcavell> it's only 15 bucks
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> forces: yes it is
[15:05] <shane2peru> richardcavell: ahh, it isn't in the repos
[15:05] <ducky__> i didnt see the answer sorry :s
[15:05] <thhp> dpreacher: and since the open() calls didn't look too likely it was the next suspect ;-)
[15:05] <richardcavell> shane2peru: I said hardware
[15:06] <faaf3ja> What's a mouse jiggler?
[15:06] <shane2peru> richardcavell: ahh, missed that, I figured it was a software
[15:06] <thhp> dpreacher: good luck with tracking down the problem, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[15:06] <forces> no, it's not
[15:06] <shane2peru> richardcavell: I'm not that interested in getting hardware, there must be a software way
[15:06] <guest1> faaf - any order i should do this in ? 1. edit menu, 2. reinstal boot ?
[15:06] <richardcavell> shane2peru: I just found the answer for you
[15:07] <ubuntunewbie> hi , I just burned a disc , but when I click eject button on my dvdrom it said "Cannot unmount volume" "An application is preventing the volume 'Data disc (14 Jul 09)' from being unmounted."
[15:07] <hbekel> shane2peru: while true; do sleep 10; xdotool mousemove 0 0; xdotool mousemove 10 10; done
[15:07] <ducky__> I have 2 chan open, but when i do " alt 1 " or " alt 2 " they are nothing :s
[15:07] <forces> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/
[15:07] <shane2peru> richardcavell: I'm all ears
[15:07] <thomson> ActionParsnip: would this be what you were talking about? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[15:07] <bluegoon> lunable to open swap file for /etc/fstab, recovery impossible
[15:07] <bluegoon> Unable*
[15:07] <ubuntunewbie> how do I eject my disc ?
[15:07] <richardcavell> shane2peru: What you do is call the application with the prefix gnome-power-manager-inhibit
[15:07] <faaf3ja> guest1: Edit menu. If that doesn't work then reinstall boot. But there's a very big chance it could work without reinstalling the boot loader.
[15:07] <StrangeCharm> how can i auto-update my system clock from the net at regular intervals?
[15:07] <ubuntunewbie> what application that prevent it to be unmount ?
[15:07] <shane2peru> hbekel: that will wiggle the mouse cursor, and fool the computer into thinking someone is here?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> thomson: sure, just change the mount points and device and you got a winner
[15:07] <bluegoon> Guys, how do i mount / ?
[15:07] <zetaz> hi to everyone
[15:08] <hbekel> shane2peru: excactly, just install xdotool
[15:08] <grawity> StrangeCharm: usually, ntpd does that.
[15:08] <thomson> ActionParsnip: k, thanks
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie: there is a file or files open that are on the partition
[15:08] <zetaz> I have a problem, I need to acces to a MacBook HD from a live ubuntu
[15:08] <hbekel> shane2peru: but there's probably a better way
[15:08] <grawity> StrangeCharm: and on Ubuntu it's already configured.
[15:08] <StrangeCharm> grawity-  it's not doing it regularly enough. i need it to do so more often
[15:08] <zetaz> I want to mount /dev/hda but it simply doesn't exists
[15:08] <shane2peru> hbekel: that will work very nicely for me, I can include it in scripts too!
[15:08] <patrinstar> can anyone help me with my vid card drivers, i just installed ubunti 9,04 for the first time
[15:08] <richardcavell> shane2peru: So to launch xchat, you change the menu item to "gnome-power-manager-inhibit xchat"
[15:09] <richardcavell> and then as long as xchat is running, your computer won't hibernate
[15:09] <grawity> StrangeCharm: ...why?
[15:09] <shane2peru> richardcavell: did you see that?  look up at hbekel's response
[15:09] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip:  But you should be able to boot into rescue mode. mount the / partition in /mnt  and comment out the fstab entry ..... dude, help, the boss just left me this message!  im a total noob!
[15:09] <shane2peru> richardcavell: ahh, I will paste it here:   while true; do sleep 10; xdotool mousemove 0 0; xdotool mousemove 10 10; done
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: huh?
[15:09] <guest1> faaf - ok have commented out bottom end of menu.lst - do i need to upload it into bootstrap somehow ?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !mount | bluegoon
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | bluegoon
[15:10] <thomson> so, just to confirm, change home from 50GB to 10GB and increase root from 10GB or leave it the same?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: those will help lots. I gotta jet
[15:10] <Klowny> Good morning everyone!
[15:10] <richardcavell> shane2peru: that will work but the idea I gave is the 'correct' solution
[15:10] <StrangeCharm> grawity-  i'm running it in a vm, and the clock becomes inaccurate quickly, and regularly when i susped and restore snapshots, and my clock needs to be accurate for cryptographic applications
[15:10] <ubuntunewbie> ActionParsnip : I dont understand , I close all related file that links to the dvd rom
[15:10] <bluegoon> ActionParsnip: dude, but how do i mount "/"??
[15:11] <shane2peru> hbekel: haha, I could use that as a practical joke too, on my buddy, go into his crontab and set it up to run every 50 seconds, lol
[15:11] <bazhang> bluegoon, did you read those links yet?
[15:11] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: use lsof to check which files are open on the cdrom
[15:11] <dpreacher> thhp asking around in openssh channel, lets see what happens
[15:11] <Klowny> anyone use frostwire by any chance?
[15:11] <zetaz> can someone please help me?
[15:11] <richardcavell> thomson: I'm still saying increase / from 10 Gigs. How much stuff do you put in /home? If you're not a huge porn downloader you won't need more than 10 gigs
[15:11] <grawity> StrangeCharm: apt-get install ntp, and edit /etc/ntp.conf
[15:11] <StrangeCharm> okay then grawity
[15:12] <thomson> richardcavell: haha, what will increasing the root partition allow for?
[15:12] <bluegoon> bazhang: its a bit complicated, i have a RAID 5 here, newly installed, we swopped raid controllers, now the freaking thing boots but freaks out, something about sdb1
[15:12] <shane2peru> richardcavell: would that open up xchat?, or just pretend to open it?
[15:13] <faaf3ja> guest1: Just reboot
[15:13] <faaf3ja> guest1: Wait. How many hard drives do you have
[15:13] <guest1> faaf - i have 1 internal 2 external
[15:13] <richardcavell> shane2peru: try it. Put gnome-power-manager-inhibit in front of any bash command and it will simply run that command and not let your computer sleep while it is running
[15:13] <pebo_> pebo_: test
[15:13] <pebo_> whops, sorry
[15:14] <hbekel> zetaz: cat /proc/partitions
[15:14] <shane2peru> richardcavell: that actually launches the app
[15:14] <patrinstar> can anyone help me with vid card drivers?
[15:14] <shane2peru> richardcavell: ahh, so I would run, gnome-power-manager-inhibit myscript
[15:14] <richardcavell> thomson: Well, I'm just thinking that 10 Gigs is about as small as you could get and still be comfortable. You're not short on space so I'd give it some breathing room.  Like I said, the moment you install some software that chews up hard disk, like VBox, you'll run out
[15:14] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: I type lsof , a list of file generating on the terminal , how do I Check ? I can't scroll up anymore
[15:14] <shane2peru> richardcavell: right, got it, thanks, that is exactly what I want to do!
[15:14] <Paavi2_0> !ask | patrinstar
[15:14] <richardcavell> shane2peru: yeah, so what's the problem?
[15:15] <hbekel> zetaz: does that help?
[15:15] <patrinstar> oh, thanks. im new, obvisely
[15:15] <shane2peru> richardcavell: no, I thought you meant specifically xchat, not any command,
[15:15] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: use grep to filter the output   lsof | grep -i /media/cdrom  should give you a list of open files on the cdrom
[15:15] <thomson> richardcavell: ok, so about 20 - 30 GB?
[15:15] <richardcavell> shane2peru: Yes, it is. You can edit your menus to put that in front of the command line that is run when a menu item is selected, for example
[15:15] <shane2peru> richardcavell: now I put 2 + 2 together and get it.
[15:15] <zetaz> hbekel: response to cat /proc/partitions : loop0 and ramzswap0
[15:15] <The_Toxic_Mite> Hey guys! :)
[15:16] <shane2peru> richardcavell: actually it is all scripted out stuff, so that is easier, I can write that into the script
[15:16] <shane2peru> richardcavell: thanks!  that is a truly a gold nugget
[15:16] <zetaz> hbekel: can I private msg to you? It's difficult to read here :)
[15:16] <richardcavell> shane2peru: Okay. Or you could do gnome-power-manager-inhibit sh myscript.sh
[15:16] <richardcavell> thomson: Yeah, I reckon so
[15:16] <shane2peru> hbekel: thanks for that info on the xdotool, that sounds like I could have fun with that.
[15:16] <topher_> Can someone help me partition a drive and reinstall Linux Mint?
[15:17] <hbekel> shane2peru: xdotool is sweet
[15:17] <Slart> !mint | topher_
[15:17] <patrinstar> i have an ati readon 9200se video card, when i first installed unbuntu 9.04 i could use 2048x1024 resolution on one monitor, i did all the updates and now i can only go as high as 1024x768 and i cant figure out how to get it back to at least the 2048, and i'd like to get back to dual monitor. can anyone help me
[15:17] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: I saw the file and program that in use , but I  had close the program already
[15:17] <thomson> also, i would need to use the ntfs driver in linux to allow read/write access right?
[15:17] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: then it might have crashed.. kill it by using "kill <processname>"
[15:17] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: saw at system monitor kill it now
[15:18] <topher_> !mintsupport
[15:18] <bluegoon> Udev is very slow on bootup
[15:18] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: Thanks it ejected
[15:18] <grawity> thomson: Ubuntu already includes the ntfs-3g driver by default.
[15:18] <thomson> ah, nice
[15:19] <bluegoon> says e2fsck: cannot continue, aborting...
[15:19] <bluegoon> /dev/sdb1 is mounted.  e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[15:19] <Boohbah> bluegoon: umount the partition before fscking
[15:19] <bluegoon> Boohbah: ok its dropped me to shell, how do i unmount it? < linux newb
[15:20] <Baba_B00ie> anyone know of any issues with ubuntu 904 and booting laptops on batteries ? my hp seems to hang after grub when starting on battery but A/C starts normal
[15:20] <bluegoon> devbox
[15:20] <bluegoon> sorry*
[15:20] <Boohbah> bluegoon: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[15:20] <ubuntunewbie> Slart: so what is lsof ? and lsof | grep -i  ? means ? wanted to learn more .
[15:20] <bluegoon> Boohbah: let me try one sec
[15:20] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: Do you know how to set kernel options?
[15:20] <Boohbah> ubuntunewbie: LiStOpenFiles
[15:20] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, not really
[15:20] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: lsof means "list open files".. that just makes a big long list of open files of all kinds
[15:20] <ducky__> I'm sorry but when i do " alt + 1 " or other number, i cant access to my other channel :(
[15:20] <bluegoon> Boohbah: ok done, what should i do now?
[15:20] <richardcavell> bluegoon: this is normal behaviour. You can fsck it while it's mounted
[15:20] <Boohbah> ubuntunewbie: grep will search the output of lsof for the specified string
[15:20] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, what needs to be done, i can use our friend google ;)
[15:21] <richardcavell> bluegoon: this is normal behaviour. You CAN'T fsck it while it's mounted
[15:21] <Boohbah> bluegoon: sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1
[15:21] <terminhell> how can i use update-manager -d to  install karmic via cli in a tty?
[15:21] <bluegoon> Boohbah: dude, it states /dev/sdb1: not found
[15:21] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: the pipe character   |   means that it sends the output to another command.. in this case we send it to grep which is used to filter text
[15:21] <Klowny> i wish people in the frostwire community chat would help moi lol
[15:21] <bluegoon> richardcavell: /dev/sdb1: not found ... ?
[15:21] <ducky__> I'm sorry but when i do " alt + 1 " or other number, i cant access to my other channel :(
[15:22] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: grep "something" will just return the lines that contain the string "something".. if we add -i we make the search case insensitive.. it we will get "something" "Something" "someTHING" and so on
[15:22] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: When you turn on the system and you're looking at grub you can press "e" for edit and then set the kernel options.
[15:22] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: The option you want to set is "acpi=off"
[15:22] <AD7six> Hi how can I start a program (e.g., pidgin) on workspace 2 on login
[15:22] <bluegoon> Boohbah: WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[15:22] <Pici> ducky__: Maybe you don't have any other channels open. Have you tried joining #irssi and asking there? When you join a channel it should set that as the active window
[15:22] <NauTiluS1> canal español de ubuntu
[15:22] <Pici> !es | NauTiluS1
[15:22] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, ok sounds good, anything else ?
[15:22] <richardcavell> bluegoon: You said it was mounted. When you do df -h what does it say?
[15:22] <terminhell> why cant i use update-manager -d in a terminal? is there another way to upgrade via terminal?
[15:22] <ubuntunewbie> Slart , Boohbah : thank you a lot for explaining ! :-D
[15:22] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: piping output to grep is a very common way of filtering output/files/logs.. almost anything
[15:22] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: you're welcome
[15:22] <NauTiluS1> Tnks
[15:23] <LordLandon> terminhell: apt-get upgrade
[15:23] <Boohbah> bluegoon: umount it first
[15:23] <bluegoon> richardcavell: let me check mount
[15:23] <bluegoon> Boohbah: i did unmount it!
[15:23] <Slart> ubuntunewbie: have a look at this.. free to download.. contains lots of good stuff http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[15:23] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Yes, don't do that
[15:23] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: Not unless you have any questions!
[15:23] <terminhell> LordLandon: and with that ill be able to upgrade to 9.10?
[15:23] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: If it works I can show you how to set it permanently.
[15:23] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, thanks i'll reboot and set thanks
[15:23] <Boohbah> bluegoon: do you get any output from 'mount |grep sdb1' ?
[15:23] <edbian_> Baba_B00ie: NP
[15:23] <richardcavell> bluegoon: slow down and don't try to run fsck until you know what's happening
[15:23] <bluegoon> richardcavell: ok did the df -h, get /dev/sda3 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
[15:24] <grawity> terminhell: there's do-release-upgrade too.
[15:24] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, i'll be back if it works
[15:24] <topher_> Need help partitioning!
[15:24] <bluegoon> /dev/sda3 is /, /dev/sdb1 *problem one* is /srv
[15:24] <edbian_> topher_: Oh yeah?
[15:24] <ubuntunewbie> Slart , thanks for the link now looking
[15:24] <richardcavell> bluegoon: try sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[15:24] <edbian_> topher_: I can help :)
[15:24] <bluegoon> richardcavell:
[15:24] <richardcavell> bluegoon: did you type it correctly before?
[15:24] <bluegoon> richardcavell: kk
[15:24] <bluegoon> richardcavell: yea mate
[15:25] <bluegoon> richardcavell: it states: /dev/sdb1 not found
[15:25] <Boohbah> bluegoon: if df shows the partition it's still mounted
[15:25] <richardcavell> bluegoon: So is it mounted or unmounted?
[15:25] <bluegoon> Booit does, but umount shows its not.
[15:25] <bluegoon> richardcavell: i really dont know, all these drives are hooked up to a raid controller.
[15:25] <terminhell> grawity: how would i use that exactly?
[15:25] <SmoKeyCastle> anyone know of a good website to host a small chunk of code on to pass to someone else?
[15:26] <thomson> HDD size: 298.09 GB ------- partition scheme -- PRIMARY: Windows (1x NTFS 50GB), Ubuntu (1x ext3 root 20GB, 1x swap 2GB, 1x ext3 home 10GB), LOGICAL: storage (1x NTFS 216.09 GB)
[15:26] <bluegoon> we swopped out raid controllers, could that have freaked out the OS?
[15:26] <thomson> there... how is that?
[15:26] <SmoKeyCastle> kind of like a imageshack for text?
[15:26] <richardcavell> thomson: looks good to me
[15:26] <Slart> SmoKeyCastle: pastebin?
[15:26] <Pici> !paste | SmoKeyCastle
[15:26] <ducky__> I found the answer
[15:26] <richardcavell> bluegoon: It sounds fscked up to me
[15:26] <stratocaster> the old commands (i see it if i push the up key on keyboard), can be put in a txt file?
[15:26] <thomson> excellent
[15:26] <ducky__> It wasnt to do " alt + 1 ", it's to do " ctrl + n "
[15:26] <terminhell> grawity: it just says that theres no new release
[15:26] <bluegoon> richardcavell: damn, this is a brand new one..$$$$
[15:26] <thomson> time to format
[15:26] <thomson> not tonight though
[15:27] <bluegoon> richardcavell: maybe the problem isnt with linux, but the raid controller itself, might want to check the config on the controller.
[15:27] <richardcavell> bluegoon: type mount /dev/sdb1 and tell us what it says
[15:27] <richardcavell> you won't ruin anything
[15:27] <bluegoon> richardcavell: kk
[15:27] <bluegoon> richardcavell: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[15:28] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Jesus
[15:28] <bluegoon> richardcavell: lol, ?
[15:28] <richardcavell> bluegoon: you sure you're typing everything correctly?
[15:28] <UnderSampled> if I burned a cd image to a dvd, should I expect it to work?
[15:28] <bluegoon> richardcavell: yea dude, had typing in school.
[15:28] <bastidrazor> bluegoon, sudo fdisk -l
[15:29] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Yeah, do that
[15:29] <bluegoon> richardcavell: k
[15:29] <richardcavell> UnderSampled: Yes, no problem
[15:29] <bluegoon> ok sda's are fine, sdb doesnt contain a valid partition table
[15:30] <stratocaster> the old commands (i see it if i push the up key on keyboard), can be put in a txt file?
[15:30] <UnderSampled> richardcavell: ok
[15:30] <richardcavell> bluegoon: That doesn't sound good
[15:30] <bastidrazor> stratocaster, they already are.. in .bash_history
[15:30] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Do you have anything on there that you're trying to keep?
[15:30] <bluegoon> richardcavell: freaking *$(939ing $500 Raid controller!
[15:31] <erUSUL> stratocaster: they are put automatically by the shell in its history file
[15:31] <bluegoon> richardcavell: yes, 1 tb company backup.
[15:31] <grawity> erUSUL: but only once you exit the shell.
[15:31] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Wait on a minute. Did you partition them before or after you added them to the RAID controller?
[15:31] <bluejeans> good morning all. where can i get flash player for an amd 64 architecture? ..  can't find it on adobe site
[15:31] <vlad> does anybody know of a good bash scripting tutorial?
[15:31] <baubau> hi if I use dd I can copy an entire win partition in another partition and then copy it back and it will be bootable?
[15:31] <stratocaster> bastidrazor: what's tha path of .bash_history?
[15:31] <richardcavell> bluejeans: it's there, you just have to search a little
[15:31] <Slart> bluejeans: it should be available from adobe.. look harder.. google with site: or inurl: or whatever the keyword is called
[15:31] <bluegoon> richardcavell: not sure, this machine was running fine, with a raid controller, another's raid controller died, gave THIS one a new raid controller, moving its old raid controller to the machine's thats raid c ontroller died.
[15:31] <grawity> stratocaster: ~/.bash_history
[15:32] <richardcavell> bluejeans: it's an alpha release
[15:32] <bastidrazor> vlad, http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/bashref/
[15:32] <erUSUL> grawity: nope you can searcvh your history and see it in multiple ways.. my facorite is Crtl + r to search backwards in history
[15:32] <grawity> stratocaster: you might want to use history -w
[15:32] <baubau> hi if I use dd I can copy an entire win partition in another partition and then copy it back and it will be bootable?
[15:32] <diddy> I just installed bastille. Now how do I start it sudo bastille -x doesn't do it.
[15:32] <grawity> erUSUL: that I know, but the history is only stored in memory until you exit/logout that particular shell.
[15:32] <bastidrazor> stratocaster, ~/.bash_history
[15:32] <richardcavell> bluegoon: If those disks were not partitioned using that RAID controller then I wouldn't be surprised if everything's SNAFU
[15:32] <bluejeans> hm.. ok. i'll keep looking. thanks all
[15:32] <vlad> thanks man
[15:32] <bluegoon> richardcavell: do you think this issue is rather due to a bad RAID configuration? it was working fine with the old raid controller.
[15:32] <simeon_> hey, got a question. i want to switch the kernel from generic x86/x86_64 to amd64-k8 ive installed the "dummy package's, linux-image-amd64-k8, headers and so on, but it stops there, doesnt download the real packages. do u need to edit any config to set the system to amd64-k8 or?
[15:32] <bluegoon> richardcavell: ah ok, cool.
[15:32] <patrinstar> i have an ati readon 9200se video card, when i first installed unbuntu 9.04 i could use 2048x1024 resolution on one monitor, i did all the updates and now i can only go as high as 1024x768 and i cant figure out how to get it back to at least the 2048, and i'd like to get back to dual monitor. can anyone help me
[15:33] <fccf> baubau: please don't repeat ... Yes, but you will have to restore the windows bootloader to the dest drive
[15:33] <baubau> so just a fixmbr?
[15:33] <stratocaster> bastidrazor, grawity: in my home i haven't this directory
[15:33] <richardcavell> if your idea is to recover data from them, you need to set them up the way they were before
[15:33] <richardcavell> if you want to use them with the new RAID controller, you should reformat them all over again
[15:33] <richardcavell> but you will obviously lose all your data
[15:33] <grawity> stratocaster: it's a file.
[15:33] <fccf> baubau yep
[15:33] <bastidrazor> stratocaster, it isn't a directory. a file
[15:33] <baubau> thx man bb
[15:33] <edbian_> patrinstar: What is the output of xrandr -q?
[15:34] <stratocaster> bastidrazor, grawity: it's true! i can open it with gedit?
[15:34] <edbian_> patrinstar: This command lists what the video card is capable of doing with the driver currently loaded.
[15:34] <Slart> !generic | simeon_
[15:34] <patrinstar> ok, hold on let me check, im totally brand new to this
[15:34] <grawity> stratocaster: yes, it's just a simple text document.
[15:34] <edbian_> patrinstar: NP!  (when you say something start with my name like I am doing for you).
[15:34] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Okay, so at least we know what's causing your problems
[15:34] <stratocaster> grawity: and bash_logout?
[15:34] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Your hardware is working as expected
[15:35] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Any one of those disks is useless without the original RAID controller set up the way it was before
[15:35] <grawity> stratocaster: ~/.bash_logout is sourced every time you log out.
[15:35] <simeon_> ah, explans it
[15:36] <richardcavell> bluegoon: I'm assuming that the RAID method was not just creating redundant backups but rather striping across multiple drives
[15:36] <patrinstar> edbian_ the driver says max 1024x768
[15:36] <bluegoon> richardcavell: it appears so yes, RAID 5 setups
[15:36] <stratocaster> grawity: i can open it with gedit?
[15:36] <grawity> stratocaster: ....try it and see.
[15:36] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Okay so you need to plug in the original disks with the original RAID controllers
[15:37] <richardcavell> and don't try to fsck them or else you'll bollock them completely
[15:37] <stratocaster> grawity: perfect! thanks!
[15:37] <padhu2> bluegoon: RAID1 is Better than RAID5. See wiki pages for more info
[15:37] <bluegoon> richardcavell: yea, cool beans, just found out the data was backed up on this one with the iffy raid configuration.
[15:37] <Speedy_> how do install this?
[15:37] <grawity> stratocaster: there's also ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc that might be interesting.
[15:37] <edbian_> patrinstar: What card do you have?
[15:37] <Pici> Speedy_: Install what?
[15:37] <bluegoon> richardcavell: so im happy about that at least, thanks Richard, i owe you my paycheque
[15:38] <Speedy_> i have a 25gb partition with windows on it and 14gb free space
[15:38] <patrinstar> edbian_ wait, it says it can go higher but i cant do it through the display properties
[15:38] <Speedy_> ubuntu 9
[15:38] <fccf> Speedy_ you want to install ubuntu?
[15:38] <padhu2> I want fluxbox theme
[15:38] <Speedy_> yes
[15:38] <edbian> patrinstar: What is the highest resolution listed?
[15:38] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Wow, I've never heard that before!  LOL
[15:38] <Pici> !install | Speedy_ start reading here
[15:38] <patrinstar> edbian_ 1280x1200, when i try and change it i got "Method invoked for ApplyConfiguration returned FALSE but did not set error"
[15:39] <stratocaster> grawity: interesting! thanks. I must go out. bye
[15:39] <simeon_> reason is that 2.6.24-24 and -23 is unstable on my system,  when the network activity is high the net goes down due to some memory leak (i think) and brings the whole network down, some strange shit, all my other computers in the same switch kind of nukes by the buggy one
[15:39] <patrinstar> edbian_ ati raedon 9200se
[15:39] <jiffe> anyone used ksplice?
[15:39] <jiffe> wondering if it works as well as I hope it does
[15:39] <edbian> patrinstar: What driver are you using?  How did you try to switch your resolution?  Using xrandr?
[15:40] <bluegoon> richardcavell: lol :D
[15:40] <anirban> I am having problem installing ufw
[15:40] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[15:40] <patrinstar> edbian_ how do i find otu what driver im using? i tried to change it through the display settings. im using ubuntu 9.04
[15:40] <Slart> anirban: I think it's installed by default, isn't it?
[15:40] <Slart> !ufw
[15:40] <richardcavell> bluegoon: I take it your company boss is going to be happy with you now?
[15:41] <bazhang> anirban, installing or configuring; try gufw for gui
[15:41] <edbian> patrinstar: The best way to tell what driver you're using is with the command line.  In linux drivers are called modules.  You can run "sudo lsmod" to list the modules that are currently being used.  The trick is to know what you're looking for.  Radeon cards either use fglrx (proprietary from ATI) or radeon (open source).
[15:41] <anirban> I am on a shell and not on a GUI as it is Ubuntu Server . Its a VPS
[15:41] <Tetracomm> I am at the command prompt in Ubuntu 8.10, and I want to change the terminal text to blue, but I don't know how (the GUI is not loaded, and I want to do this here). Help?
[15:42] <codyxx> Question
[15:42] <fccf> !ask
[15:42] <codyxx> I just got a read/write error when attempting to resize my ext3 partition in Gparted
[15:42] <codyxx> What can I do?
[15:42] <codyxx> (How could I also change the mount permissions on my drive?)
[15:43] <codyxx> I saw the command before, but I dorgot it.
[15:43] <edbian> patrinstar: You can combine lsmod with | grep <string> to filter the output.  lsmod | grep fglrx.  Will take the output of lsmod and filter it for the phrase fglrx.  It will then print out only the lines that have "fglrx" somewhere in them.  Handy little tool.
[15:43] <codyxx> *forgot
[15:43] <edbian> patrinstar: Do you understand?
[15:43] <richardcavell> codyxx: uh oh
[15:43] <richardcavell> codyxx: could be real bad
[15:43] <patrinstar> edbian_ radeon
[15:44] <anirban> error code : http://pastebin.ca/1494728
[15:44] <richardcavell> codyxx: are you still in gparted?
[15:44] <codyxx> Nope
[15:44] <codyxx> I am on my distro
[15:44] <edbian> patrinstar: You're using the open source driver?
[15:44] <fccf> !enter |codyxx
[15:44] <edbian> radeon ?
[15:44] <richardcavell> codyxx: you need to fsck everything
[15:44] <patrinstar> edbian_ i believe so, im not sure
[15:44] <codyxx> I have
[15:44] <bluegoon> richardcavell: yea well i hope so :)
[15:44] <richardcavell> and see what has survived
[15:44] <bluegoon> richardcavell: the guys in charge are very heavy linux experts, i cant ask them though, not allowed to.
[15:44] <codyxx> Oh, all data has survived
[15:45] <bluegoon> richardcavell: they are busy with a 600k user mail migration from south africa to france atm, so i get beaten if i speak.. :(
[15:45] <LargePrime> does anyone know how to get my laptop sound control to control the sound I use?
[15:46] <anirban> anybody plz look after my problem plz plz .  error code : http://pastebin.ca/1494728
[15:46] <richardcavell> bluegoon: I quite understand. I have a *#%!* boss too
[15:46] <edbian> patrinstar: If "radeon" was anywhere in the output of lsmod the you're using the radeon driver.
[15:46] <edbian> then you're*
[15:46] <richardcavell> codyxx: are you sure? You don't know until you fsck
[15:46] <patrinstar> edbian_ it was, so it is open source
[15:46] <edbian> patrinstar: Ok :)
[15:46] <chaosphere> LargePrime: you mean the special keys? What laptop do you have?
[15:46] <codyxx> I have already fscked my drive about 4 times
[15:46] <codyxx> within the past 2 days
[15:46] <edbian> patrinstar: Remember that error you got / showed me?  What did you do that created that error?
[15:47] <edbian> patrinstar:  "Method invoked for ApplyConfiguration returned FALSE but did not set error"  <--- ??
[15:47] <richardcavell> codyxx: after you got the read/write error?
[15:47] <codyxx> yep
[15:47] <LargePrime> chaosphere: zx8000.  it has volume controll keys at the top.  these move a slider, but the slider does not controll the audio I use
[15:48] <fccf> anirban: have run apt-get update
[15:48] <legend2440> anirban: dont know if it matters but your line in terminal says your already root  root@web2dziner:~# sudo apt-get install ufw  and then your using sudo also
[15:48] <LargePrime> largeprime
[15:48] <patrinstar> edbian_ when i went into display settings i clicked on my primary monitor which is the only one working, and went and selected my resolution size to 1280x1024, which is the highest res size i can select, when i clicked on apply thats the error message i got
[15:48] <richardcavell> codyxx: okay, good
[15:48] <richardcavell> now, what's your question?
[15:48] <bluejeans> no adobe flash for 64-bit
[15:48] <echosystm> how do you add a kernel module?
[15:48] <codyxx> How could I change the mount permissions on my drive?
[15:48] <bluejeans> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html
[15:49] <chaosphere> LargePrime: so you mean that volume bar at the top right panel moves, but nothing else happens?
[15:49] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[15:49] <codyxx> To essentially mount not at root, but with my username and password
[15:49] <echosystm> /etc/modules doesnt exist
[15:49] <codyxx> I forgot the command, but I saw it in the ubuntu forums
[15:49] <JohnFlux> Is there any technical reason why the repositories couldn't just hold all the old versions of packages?
[15:49] <juiCeppe> dunno
[15:49] <richardcavell> codyxx: unmount and then remount
[15:50] <codyxx> From a live cd?
[15:50] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: bandwith? storege capacity? adminstration overhead ? etc ?
[15:50] <JohnFlux> erUSUL: why would bandwidth come into it?
[15:50] <edbian> patrinstar: hang on a sec
[15:50] <LargePrime> chaosphere: no.  I mean the volume control keys pop a volume graphic, that moves, but it disconnected (does not effect) from the vol bar on the panel.
[15:50] <JohnFlux> erUSUL:  hmm it would make apt-get update use more bandwidth
[15:50] <patrinstar> edbian_ no problem
[15:51] <fccf> JohnFlux: mirroring
[15:51] <JohnFlux> fccf: ah yeah
[15:51] <TwoToneSpirit> JohnFlux: You may get a more thought-out answer to that question in #ubuntu-motu
[15:51] <LargePrime> chaosphere: the panel vol controll works, and I can set it to whatever I change teh sound system to
[15:51] <richardcavell> codyxx: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking
[15:51] <strang3r> hello, what is the device manager known as in jaunty?
[15:52] <yoman> is there anyone who knows well how to use dd?
[15:52] <richardcavell> codyxx: You want to remount a hard disk partition from a liveCD?
[15:52] <sapper>  /join #ubuntu-my
[15:52] <legend2440> strang3r: gnome-device-manager
[15:52] <strang3r> ty
[15:52] <edbian> patrinstar: What was the highest resolution listed with xrandr -q ?
[15:52] <codyxx> No, there was a command I saw that would essentially allow the drive to mount by username and password and not by root, thereby allowing read/write permissions again
[15:52] <LargePrime> chaosphere: I do not know how to change the settings on the application that controlls mt laptop softkeys
[15:53] <codyxx> Or I was wondering if there is any other way to bypass the read/write error
[15:53] <patrinstar> edbian_ 1280x1200
[15:53] <yoman> I need help with dd. Anyone who know well how to use it?
[15:53] <hbekel> yoman: dd is quite simple, it copies data
[15:53] <richardcavell> codyxx: the read/write error didn't come from permissions
[15:53] <richardcavell> you should be running gparted as root
[15:54] <fccf> yoman: what are you trying to copy?
[15:54] <edbian> patrinstar: which isn't high enough correct?
[15:54] <yoman> a win partition NTFS
[15:54] <patrinstar> edbian_ yes
[15:54] <ohir> yoman: man dd
[15:54] <edbian> patrinstar: You want 2048X1024
[15:55] <codyxx> What do you think it came from?
[15:55] <yoman> I want to make a backup of this in another partition, then create a 100mb partition at the start of the hard drive to install grub and then copy win back
[15:55] <patrinstar> edbian_ yes if its possible. i know windows can do it, so unbuntu should be better ;-)
[15:55] <edbian> patrinstar: How did you set up your dual monitors?  What program did you use?
[15:55] <MK13> when installing ff3.5 can i remove the previous version?
[15:55] <patrinstar> edbian_ and dual monitor
[15:55] <patrinstar> edbian_ none
[15:55] <edbian> patrinstar: You've never gotten it up in ubuntu?
[15:55] <richardcavell> MK13 yes you can
[15:56] <richardcavell> codyxx: I think your hardware came up with an error
[15:56] <ohir> yoman: dd if=/input/path/to/file of=/output/path/to/file bs=block_size count=blocks_count
[15:56] <richardcavell> codyxx: that's the kind of error that could signal your disk is about to break
[15:56] <MK13> richard, how ( i don't wanna break 3.5 :)
[15:56] <richardcavell> or it just sometimes happens
[15:56] <patrinstar> edbian_ i did everythign through the display settings, i turned it on once and screwed up both monitors i couldnt see anything
[15:56] <MK13> richardcavell, , how ( i don't wanna break 3.5 :)
[15:56] <yoman> ohir: yeah I know the command, but I dunno if it's possible to do what I wanna do
[15:57] <richardcavell> You can uninstall 3.0 and then install 3.5 if you like
[15:57] <datta> i want to know where ubuntu's gedit is located like in what folder
[15:57] <richardcavell> the package manager shouldn't let you break dependencies
[15:57] <chaosphere> LargePrime: so that zx8000 is from what company?
[15:57] <ohir> yoman: and as linux is of unix ancestry, everthing is a file. Your /dev is full of files. Special files.
[15:57] <legend2440> MK13: i was told in channel #firefox that i should not remove firefox 3.0 after installing 3.5
[15:58] <richardcavell> datta: go to a terminal and type: whereis gedit
[15:58] <bazhang> MK13, you should not
[15:58] <LargePrime> chaosphere: hp.  sorry.  kinda (in)famouse laptop
[15:58] <Titan8990> legend2440, maybe because 3.5 currently has a vuln?
[15:58] <richardcavell> bazhang: But you can uninstall 3.0 and then install 3.5 fresh?
[15:58] <bazhang> richardcavell, it will just reinstall 3.0 if you have removed it.
[15:59] <ohir> yoman: basicaly you want to do dd if=/dev/rawdisk_device_file of=/home/backup/partition_backup bs=1024k count=partition_size_in_MiB
[15:59] <yoman> to sum up: I have in order 50gb WIN - 50gb LIN - 200gb NTFS. I want to copy the first 50 gb in the 200gb, then redimension the first gigs and create 2 partition 1 for grub (100mb) and 1 for win again. Then copy it back and make it boot as usual
[15:59] <richardcavell> bazhang: deja vu. You can uninstall 3.0 and run just 3.5 if youw ant
[15:59] <richardcavell> FF 3.5 is a little incompatible on my puter
[15:59] <MK13> bazhang, y not?
[15:59] <owner> Hi all! I need help setting up NFS between two debian machines. I keep having permission issues... Is there a way to get root rw access at all times?
[16:00] <moltenbobcat> owner: What does your /etc/exports line look like?
[16:00] <hbekel> yoman: so you want to copy 50 gigs into 4.9gigs ?
[16:00] <edbian> patrinstar: Check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[16:00] <edbian> patrinstar: I feel like I don't have the experience to help you :(
[16:00] <datta> there it doesnt work for the thing i wanted because i wanted it for my default editor of greasemonkey
[16:00] <bazhang> MK13, installing 3.5 will bring in 3.0 if you have removed it. 3.5 is unofficial, thus branded shiretoko
[16:00] <ohir> yoman: nowadays it even can be blockdevicefile so: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/bak/sda1_1024_122120k_bak.img bs=1024k count=122120
[16:00] <yoman> hbekel: yes that's the point. My installation has 30gb occupied out of 50. Is it possible to copy it back?
[16:01] <yoman> in 49.9?
[16:01] <datta> does anyone know how to set up the default editor for greasemonkey to gedit
[16:01] <MK13> bazhang,  gotcha, thnx
[16:01] <richardcavell> yoman: you want to do a dynamic resize, not bugger about with dd
[16:01] <hbekel> yoman: not with dd, you'll have to resize your partitions
[16:01] <ohir> yoman: real partition sizes you oughta get from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdddevice
[16:01] <yoman> yes but the risk of data loss is higher
[16:01] <yoman> it's a NTFS filesystem
[16:01] <owner> moltenbobcat: on the host i have '/ 193.136.0.2(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)'
[16:01] <patrinstar> edbian_ its all right, so i should get this program? mergedfb
[16:01] <l1m5> does anyone know how to pair an apple wireless keyboard (bluetooth) in jaunty?
[16:01] <richardcavell> yoman: Make a backup for the love of God
[16:02] <datta> it keeps on giving me an error of finding the executable file
[16:02] <fccf> datta: system>preferences>preferred applications
[16:02] <hbekel> yoman: dd just copies raw data, it doesn't know anything about partitions
[16:02] <yoman> yeah but I was thinking about ntfs partitioning
[16:02] <ohir> wow, should read carefuly what yoman wanna do
[16:02] <richardcavell> yoman: What you're trying to do is asking for trouble
[16:03] <datta> fccf sorry but there is not help with that
[16:03] <yoman> yes but I read multiple answers and I'm tryna reply back
[16:03] <yoman> that's the confusion :/
[16:03] <l1m5> i'm trying to get the bluetooth mac address of the keyboard but when i run hcitool scan
[16:03] <ohir> yoman: get gparted to work and resize. Prepare for damn long resize with 49.9GiB out of 50GiB
[16:03] <l1m5> i get an 'invalid argument' error
[16:03] <l1m5> is there another way to get the bluetooth mac address?
[16:03] <yoman> that's the final answer?
[16:03] <hbekel> yoman: dd is the wrong tool
[16:04] <LargePrime> chaosphere: You googleing this?  I could find nothing that works.
[16:04] <richardcavell> yoman: use gparted not dd and for God's sake make a backup
[16:04] <moltenbobcat> owner: so what do the filesystem permissions look like? who owns the files etc
[16:04] <Klowny> hey guys my mom is needing a new OS her computer is going so slow it is pathetic... would ubuntu be a good choice for her? all she does is get on myspace/facebook/pogo.com/ and that's pretty much it
[16:04] <yoman> k I will
[16:04] <unop> yoman, backup with tar ??
[16:04] <unop> yoman, that way you don't have to worry about the destination partition size
[16:05] <richardcavell> Klowny: Ubuntu's Firefox works fine with those sites
[16:05] <yoman> that's interesting
[16:05] <moltenbobcat> Klowny: why don't you download a live cd and st her down in front of it and have her see what she thinks give a list of reasons why you think it sgood and let her make her own decision
[16:05] <chaosphere> LargePrime: and having a look at the packets. searching for that one to edit hp softkeys support
[16:05] <codyxx> Well, it resized my HFS+ partition fine
[16:05] <codyxx> That is what perplexes me
[16:05] <Klowny> yes molten i got ubuntu on my machine and i like it and it's pretty easy for the regular user
[16:05] <datta> never mind anyone found the answer in ubuntuforums
[16:05] <Klowny> and my regular install cd has the option for a live cd too so i am gonna try that out
[16:06] <Klowny> though i know the OS runs very slow while under the live cd option
[16:06] <chaosphere> LargePrime: did you had a look at /etc/init.d ? perhaps you can find there what is loaded to get the softkeys to work
[16:06] <skyred> Is there a way to monitor how much data does a SSH Tunnel consume?
[16:06] <yoman> but why when I boot with the gparted live cd it sees only unallocated space?
[16:06] <LargePrime> chaosphere: Carry on.  If you got a moment I would like to know what 'packets' you are searching are...
[16:06] <Klowny> lol i feel like i am trying to convert my mother back to the good side
[16:06] <Klowny> she's on windows xp and she is virus filled and at least with ubuntu there are less chances of viruses
[16:06] <Klowny> if any chance
[16:06] <Klowny> lol
[16:07] <LargePrime> chaosphere: No, I just googled for a fix.  should I look there now?
[16:07] <yoman> Klowny, copy the livecd on ram
[16:07] <LordLandon> yoman: you might've messed up your patition table if you've been mucking about with dd, and gparted doesn't know there's a partition there.
[16:07] <MrPink08> hey all, I am going to format my pc, what (asside from the obvious files I want to keep) should I backup to restore later? (I am upping from 8.04 to 9.04)
[16:07] <yoman> I've never used dd before
[16:07] <fccf> skyred: you could run wireshark... then sort the output
[16:08] <owner> moltenbobcat: some are owned by root and i need to be able to write to those as a user of the client box
[16:08] <hbekel> yoman: did you let vista create those partitions?
[16:08] <moltenbobcat> Klowny: it's definately a good choice and it sounds like your doing it for the right reasons remember that you then become the sole point of tech support
[16:08] <yoman> never had vista . I have xp
[16:08] <Klowny> her computer is better than mine but mine is faster lol
[16:08] <Klowny> lol molten well i am already her sole point of tech support
[16:08] <yoman> but well... no I didn't let win do it
[16:08] <moltenbobcat> owner: you could try doing a chmod o+w on the files
[16:08] <Klowny> less tech support needed with ubuntu tho, i have had no problems with mine except for frostwire being an ass to me
[16:08] <moltenbobcat> that shoudl take care of it
[16:08] <chaosphere> LargePrime: for example there's a packet for acer laptops to get special functions to work like wireless-lan-button and other softkeys. i think it was called acerhk or so. there must be something like this for hp laptops. Yes, search for something with 'hp' in the name
[16:08] <LargePrime> chaosphere: hotkey-setup?
[16:09] <moltenbobcat> Klowny: so then you might be making your life easier, make sure to think of stuff like printing
[16:09] <yoman> also gparted from ubuntu live can't see partitions
[16:09] <skyred> fccf, would you point me to the relative articles?
[16:09] <chaosphere> LargePrime: apt-cache search hotkey-setup
[16:09] <chaosphere> hotkey-setup - auto-configures laptop hotkeys   Looks good :)
[16:09] <yoman> but win sees the partitions
[16:09] <oskar-> skyred:  grep "sport=xxxxx" /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[16:09] <hbekel> yoman: does fdisk -l see any?
[16:10] <LargePrime> chaosphere: sudo?
[16:10] <oskar-> skyred:  perhaps with watch
[16:10] <fccf> !info wireshark | skyred
[16:10] <owner> moltenbobcat: i'm more after root squash i guess, both machines are on LAN
[16:10] <yoman> I'm on win right now
[16:10] <yoman> I can reboot and check it out
[16:10] <moltenbobcat> and any digital cameras etc but it can defiantely be a good thing.  As long as she doesn't have a virus issue anymore.  Just make sure everything works on firefox in ubuntu and she'll probably be fine keep in mind if she uses openoffice or anything like that you probably need to teach her to save her files in the office 97/2000 compat format or whatever
[16:10] <LargePrime> chaosphere: but it only has video stuff in there
[16:10] <Dreki> what is the difference between sdl and glx packages?  or do i have that right?
[16:11] <richardcavell> Klowny: Let her use the live CD but remember it will be very slow from the CD
[16:11] <Paavi2_0> Dreki: glx is ati-drivel, sdl is a multimedia library
[16:11] <yoman> going to reboot to ubuntu livecd so I can tell you more
[16:11] <chaosphere> LargePrime: erm no sry. so then the problem should be in audio configuration.
[16:11] <moltenbobcat> owner: are you trying to squash to a particular UID?
[16:11] <Paavi2_0> s/drivel/driver
[16:11] <moltenbobcat> like all_squash?
[16:11] <MrPink08> hey all, I am going to format my pc, what (asside from the obvious files I want to keep) should I backup to restore later? (I am upping from 8.04 to 9.04)
[16:12] <moltenbobcat> MrPink08: I'd backup your entire home directory
[16:12] <Dreki> paavi9_0: thanks
[16:12] <Dreki> Paavi2_0: thanks
[16:12] <moltenbobcat> MrPink08: and maybe if you customized anything in /etc lik a  samaba config or something
[16:12] <LargePrime> chaosphere: I see no *hp* files in /etc/init.d
[16:13] <Paavi2_0> MrPink08: in addition to your home directory you might want to back up some selected settings that reside under /etc
[16:13] <richardcavell> alright guys I'm tired. L8r d00ds
[16:13] <Paavi2_0> !u
[16:13] <kniht> MrPink08: do you have etckeeper installed? should help that kind of migration
[16:14] <MrPink08> kniht: no I dont havent heard of it yet, Ill check it out
[16:14] <papul> whats up guys?
[16:14] <MrPink08> but okay home and etc
[16:14] <ryann> i can
[16:14] <kniht> MrPink08: it's one of those things that doesn't help much after the fact :)
[16:14] <ryann> i can't seem to resolve an issue with apt.  http://pastebin.com/d25d42a94
[16:14] <owner> moltenbobcat: i figured that would be one of the ways.. i just need root at all times...
[16:14] <chaosphere> LargePrime: then your softkeys are only managed by hotkeys-setup. Have a look at system -> audio. Did you changed there something? can you change the volume with the volume control?
[16:14] <ryann> i received synaptic errors over and over, so i tried reinstalling the package, and now receive that error
[16:15] <bazhang> ryann, what were the previous errors
[16:15] <ryann> similar 'sub process' errors
[16:15] <ryann> whenever finishing an apt-get upgrade
[16:15] <ryann> or installing any new package
[16:15] <bazhang> ryann, what about update now
[16:15] <ryann> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 139
[16:16] <LargePrime> chaosphere: this happened after update to 9.04.  I will look in sys.audio.  I can change vol with panel control.  In a perfect world the soft key would just pop the panel control
[16:16] <bazhang> ryann, sudo apt-get update   <--paste.ubuntu.com with the errors
[16:16] <anirban>  Can anybody give me a proper Jaunty sources.list ?
[16:16] <ryann> update retrieves package lists just fine
[16:17] <ryann> it seems to be an issue configuring the system post-installation of a package
[16:17] <toraton> hello
[16:17] <bazhang> ryann, so what is the problem exact errors to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:17] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  sys>audio DNE            sys> Pref, or sys>Admin?
[16:17] <ryann> the only package currently out of date is plasma-widget-networkmanagement, which continues to have problems so i ignore it
[16:18] <bazhang> ryann, this is kde4.3rc?
[16:18] <bastidrazor> anirban, http://pastebin.com/f5477f43   ... the last repo i added.. disregard it.. PPA for pidgin
[16:18] <odla> hi i am trying to install apacite (a BibTeX package) and i am running hardy. rather than use the version in hardy which is quite old, I compiled it myself. does anyone know where i should put the stuff?
[16:18] <l1m5> i am having problems with my update manager. it sees updates, launches the "downloading package files" window, but nothing appears in that windows and it freezes up at that point
[16:18] <patrin> i went to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710 and have copy and pasted the step into *xorg.conf (/etc/x11) - gedit and i want to make sure i do step 3 correctly, so can anyone help guide me through this
[16:18] <l1m5> can i reinstall the package manager or something to fix this
[16:18] <ryann> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/d6169d6c9
[16:18] <ryann> i am running kbuntu karmic
[16:18] <bazhang> ryann, which version of kde4
[16:18] <ryann> kubuntu, karmic dist
[16:19] <tsr> l1m5 run synaptic in a terminal
[16:19] <bazhang> ryann, no wonder #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:19] <l1m5> tsr, e.g. sudo apt-get update?
[16:20] <tsr> no
[16:20] <tsr> put only synaptic
[16:20] <ryann> 4.2
[16:20] <maximumbob> Hi - I'm writing a program and I need it to be able to control the screen power and screensaver state in Ubuntu. What would I hook into to control this?
[16:20] <l1m5> tsr, i can't do anything because of the "unable to lock administration directory"
[16:20] <ryann> ah, thanks baz
[16:20] <bazhang> tsr, to fix what
[16:20] <ryann> a place for everything
[16:20] <tsr> sudo synaptic
[16:21] <maximumbob> In other words, I need to be able to turn off the screen with a button and also disable the screen timeout with a button
[16:21] <bazhang> tsr, what is the issue, and should be gksudo with graphical apps
[16:21] <l1m5> tsr,  well the problem is that i can't kill the frozen "downloading package files" window
[16:21] <l1m5> how do i do that
[16:21] <tsr> cant kill it?
[16:22] <bazhang> l1m5, what version of ubuntu
[16:22] <tsr> with killall?
[16:22] <MrPink08> Anyone here into Augmented Reality? -.-
[16:22] <l1m5> bazhang, jaunty
[16:22] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  I miss you.....
[16:22] <altehupe> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[16:22] <bazhang> MrPink08, how does this relate to Ubuntu support?
[16:22] <MrPink08> bazhang: it doesnt directly... although I am interested in running Augmented Reality on an Ubuntu Machine ;)
[16:23] <yoman> am I in the right server?
[16:23] <chaosphere> LargePrime: oh yes system->pref.->audio or volume control (just a guess)
[16:23] <bazhang> MrPink08, is that a program? or just a chat topic?
[16:23] <patrin> i went to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710 and have copy and pasted the step into *xorg.conf (/etc/x11) - gedit and i want to make sure i do step 3 correctly, so can anyone help guide me through this
[16:23] <bazhang> MrPink08, if the latter please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:24] <yoman> ok now I'm on livecd
[16:24] <l1m5> i still can't kill the "downloading packages" window
[16:24] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  pref>sound?  I do not see anything there to set the softkey to "pulse audio" for example.
[16:24] <yoman> gparted is not seeing anything
[16:24] <l1m5> and i'm still getting the error "another synaptic is running"
[16:24] <MrPink08> bazhang: Well its more a topic... its the fusion of 3D Models and realtime video, with a software based tracking system via webcam.... hard to explain... but ok Ill shut up ^^
[16:24] <yoman> but fdisk sees everythinh
[16:24] <MrPink08> l1m5: close the other Synaptic? -.-
[16:24] <tsr> sudo killall synaptic
[16:24] <topher_> Anyone know how to fix Grub error 22?
[16:24] <chaosphere> LargePrime: but are you sure, that the programs use pulse-audio?
[16:24] <LargePrime> topher_: how did you get it?
[16:25] <maximumbob> I need to be able to power off the display and start the screensaver from inside a c++ app I'm writing on ubuntu... What part of the distro controls these? I'm guessing Gnome and I'll check irc.gnome.org if that's right.
[16:25] <l1m5> MrPink08, OK that allowed me to kill the other window, but i'm still having problems updating my system
[16:25] <l1m5> is there a way to repair my synaptic installation
[16:25] <chaosphere> LargePrime: perhaps alsa or oss
[16:25] <bazhang> l1m5, close all instances of add/remove synaptic etc
[16:25] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  Um, sometimes I have to change it cause of different programs.  but what I want is to set the softkey to fit what I need to do
[16:26] <bazhang> l1m5, then sudo apt-get update (paste.ubuntu.com with errors , NOT here)
[16:26] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  I can not figgure how to set the soft key to fit what I need.
[16:26] <fccf> maximumbob: not sure where to direct you ... perhaps apm source
[16:26] <l1m5> bazhang, now sudo killall synaptic isn't doing anything
[16:26] <l1m5> i can't kill the process
[16:26] <moltenbobcat> So I have a eeepc 1000he netbook and it has a multitouch touchpad and I'm trying to figure out how to get three finger swipes to work for back and forward in firefox... anyone have any idea?
[16:27] <bazhang> l1m5, open up a terminal and type top
[16:27] <topher_> Need help with Grub Error 22
[16:27] <maximumbob> fccf: apm? I'm checking on gnome irc right now since I'm guessing that gnome controls that stuff.
[16:27] <patrin> edbian_ you still around
[16:27] <bazhang> topher_, dual boot?
[16:27] <bazhang> moltenbobcat, the eeepc forums are great for that
[16:27] <l1m5> bazhang, top isn't showing any synaptic stuff
[16:27] <bazhang> eeeuser.com
[16:27] <chaosphere> LargePrime: perhaps the problem is, that the softkey controls alsa master and you are using pulse-audio. so the softkeys controls the wrong 'sound device'. Do you get the point?
[16:28] <moltenbobcat> bazhang: thanks i'll take a look
[16:28] <FrozeL> Selam
[16:28] <l1m5> bazhang, is there a "repair install" option for jaunty
[16:28] <l1m5> i'm having tons of problems
[16:28] <bazhang> moltenbobcat, also #eeepc on freenode
[16:28] <TwoToneSpirit> moltenbobcat: I'm very interested in your discoveries on that front - keep us posted.
[16:28] <bazhang> l1m5, paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[16:28] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  ya.  And you are thinking it is not configurable?
[16:29] <FrozeL> fuck '
[16:29] <FrozeL> fuck !
[16:29] <asjdhaksd> !
[16:29] <FloodBot2> FrozeL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <yoman1> anyone know how to solve grub error 18?
[16:29] <LargePrime> togher_ one sec k?  need to edit grub.  I assume windows was first, added ubuntu, and deleted some other partition in windows
[16:29] <chaosphere> so first question is: when you say, you see a popup when you press the buttons what are they actually changing?
[16:29] <TwoToneSpirit> chaosphere, largeprime: I had the same problem when I upgraded to Jaunty, and then again when I bought a USB Sound device.  I just go to System-Preference-Sound every time I need to change it.  A little annoying.
[16:30] <chaosphere> LargePrime: so first question is: when you say, you see a popup when you press the buttons what are they actually changing?
[16:30] <yoman1> gparted is not seeing any partition
[16:30] <fccf> maximumbob: advanced power managemnet --- gnome is the gui ... you need to find the hardware control to put a moniter into standby
[16:30] <moltenbobcat> TwoToneSpirit: I'll let you know if I find anything
[16:30] <topher_> LargePrime: Hmmk.
[16:30] <phenom> Any one familiar with the difference betwwen the "ksplice" package vs the ksplice-uptrack.deb package?
[16:30] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  ya.  And once I know that, How do I get it to work?
[16:30] <fccf> maximumbob: and this is offtopic here
[16:30] <klown> TwoToneSpirit: chaosphere, LargePrime, what was the issue?
[16:30] <phenom> Any one familiar with the difference betwwen the "ksplice" package in the ubuntu repo vs the ksplice-uptrack.deb package? *
[16:30] <maximumbob> fccf: I was coming here as the first stop to figure out where to go
[16:31] <maximumbob> Which you're helping me with :p
[16:31] <LargePrime> chaosphere:  TwoToneSpirit klown  I can not figgure how to set the volume soft key to fit what I need.
[16:31] <TwoToneSpirit> klown:  That, in Intrepid and prior, changing the volume using the tray icon or shortcut keys seemed to always modify the "master" for the current sound device.  In Jaunty, at least for me, it only modifies the master for the device set in System-Preferences-Sound
[16:31] <yoman1> I can see partitions on fdisk but not on gparted
[16:31] <tyler_d> how do I find out the exact time of a reboot via terminal?
[16:31] <LargePrime> togher_  sorry for the delay.  give me a sec to fix this.
[16:32] <topher_> LargePrime: It's fine, take your time.
[16:32] <LargePrime> topher_  sorry for the delay.  give me a sec to fix this.
[16:32] <maximumbob> And fccf: apm looks like it's for putting the whole system in standby, not just the monitor?
[16:32] <grawity> tyler_d: 'last' maybe?
[16:32] <klown> TwoToneSpirit, LargePrime, ok, different issue than what I'm having.
[16:32] <ccooke> Hmm. Anyone know about a bug in compiz that causes terminal backgrounds to become invisible every now and then?
[16:32] <phenom> ksplice has already failed me, and I was wondering if ksplice-uptrack is supposed to handle all distro updates, vs only the ones that require rebooting etc, as I've recently run the reg update manager and have installed updates that require a reboot. :/
[16:32] <maximumbob> fccf: think I found it, thanks for help
[16:32] <yoman1> ah dunno how to fix this grub error 18 if not making a partition at the very first 100 mb
[16:33] <yoman1> so redimension the win xp partition
[16:33] <Chri1> I'm glad that the ubuntu docs cover most situations I'll ever need to deal with.
[16:33] <Chri1> Now i know that i have to remember to specify to my parents not to install windows and overwrite GRUB.
[16:33] <lianimator> has anyone compiled a scanner with flex? I'm getting "undefined reference to `yylex'", whereas on cygwin, it compiles.
[16:33] <klown> Is there a way to set up the sound device to automatically switch to mic/headset when my usb headset is plugged in?
[16:33] <CMooney> Does anyone else have issues with really slow openssh servers in Jaunty?
[16:33] <yoman1> grub error 18_
[16:34] <yoman1> ?
[16:34] <rolo> Hiya.  This morning, all of a sudden, Jaunty won't see my wired network connection, it just says "wired network disconnected".  It's working fine on Jaunty in my laptop through the same cable, just not on my desktop.  Any ideas why this may have suddenly happened?  Cheers.
[16:34] <LargePrime> ha, thats it.  thanks chaosphere
[16:34] <l1m5> so i ran the sudo apt-get update
[16:34] <l1m5> and updates popped up
[16:35] <l1m5> froze again
[16:35] <l1m5> i tried clicking settings
[16:35] <l1m5> froze up again
[16:35] <FloodBot2> l1m5: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:35] <chaosphere> LargePrime: so not changing the softkeys but changing the sound device, volume tray?
[16:35] <LargePrime> topher_  sorry for the delay.  K did you install windows first?
[16:35] <bazhang> l1m5, dont use the enter key so much
[16:35] <ohir> CMooney: define 'really slow'
[16:35] <l1m5> bazhang, sorry
[16:35] <fccf> maximumbob:  xset dmps force standby
[16:35] <MrPink08> "Cannot create Symbolic Link, Operation not permitted" even though I ran with sudo... why is this ?
[16:35] <l1m5> bazhang, is there anyway to completely reinstall synaptic
[16:35] <altehupe> 1lm5: is the partition full?
[16:36] <bazhang> l1m5, first you need to do updates from the command line as I instructed; and paste.ubuntu.com with the errors
[16:36] <LargePrime>  chaosphere set the default mixer tracks to what was using seemed to work
[16:36] <bazhang> l1m5, its nothing to do with synaptic
[16:36] <LargePrime> topher_: you here?
[16:36] <topher_> Large: I reformatted my HDD and installed it with Ubuntu 4.09.
[16:36] <chaosphere> LargePrime: ok cool that it works
[16:36] <l1m5> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/218040/
[16:36] <nerdy_kid2> were are smb shares mounted?
[16:36] <LargePrime> topher_: then?
[16:37] <topher_> LargePrime: I was trying to partition off my HDD and deleted the extra 2 partitions.
[16:37] <topher_> LargePrime: Rebooted my PC, and got Grub Error 22.
[16:37] <LargePrime> topher_: wait.  you formatted one partition of a multi
[16:37] <yoman1> Hi how can I create a complete backup of data and programs? dd or tar? is it completely safe?
[16:37] <bazhang> l1m5, now : cat /etc/apt/sources.list ---> paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[16:37] <maximumbob> fccf: that's exactly what I found :p
[16:37] <LargePrime> topher_: then installed 4.09
[16:38] <bazhang> l1m5, also what version of Ubuntu is this
[16:38] <topher_> LargePrime: I completely reformated.
[16:38] <nerdy_kid2> were are smb shares mounted?
[16:38] <l1m5> bazhang, jaunty
[16:38] <topher_> LargePrime: Only thing on my PC right now is WoW and Ubuntu.
[16:38] <LargePrime> topher_: then partitioned, then installed?
[16:38] <Paavi2_0> nerdy_kid2: depends on config
[16:38] <bazhang> l1m5, okay, please paste.ubuntu.com with the sources.list
[16:38] <yoman1> any idea?
[16:38] <CMooney> ohir like minutes to get a password prompt
[16:38] <nerdy_kid2> Paavi2_0 i just have default config
[16:39] <Paavi2_0> nerdy_kid2: then look at your config, it says it all there
[16:39] <topher_> LargePrime: I reformatted, Installed Ubuntu, and then used the Partition editor to delete the other small partitions.
[16:39] <ILMAN> hey
[16:39] <nerdy_kid2> Paavi2_0 were is the file
[16:39] <l1m5> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/218042/
[16:39] <ILMAN> i have problem on kvirc
[16:39] <rolo> Hiya. This morning, all of a sudden, Jaunty won't see my wired network connection, it just says "wired network disconnected". It's working fine on Jaunty in my laptop through the same cable, just not on my desktop. Any ideas why this may have suddenly happened? Cheers.
[16:39] <LargePrime> topher_: k
[16:39] <ILMAN> i cant watch windows-1255 hebrew
[16:39] <ILMAN> :\
[16:40] <moltenbobcat> rolo: have you tried doing a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:40] <LargePrime> are you on the machine now?
[16:40] <moltenbobcat> oh just try to enable and disable it with the check box in newtork manager
[16:40] <rolo> thanks!  Just tried that... just says "* Reconfiguring network interfaces [OK]" and still broken
[16:40] <LargePrime> topher_: are on the machine now
[16:40] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes, I'm running Ubuntu via disc.
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> rolo: yeah if you are using network manager I believe that does nothing
[16:41] <LargePrime> ok, you can use terminal?
[16:41] <bazhang> l1m5, what about when you try to install packages from the command line
[16:41] <billy> hello everyone
[16:41] <rolo> Yeah
[16:41] <nerdy_kid2> were is smbs config file? dont know the package name to look for....
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> rolan if you right click on your network icon by the clock
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> uncheck the enable
[16:41] <LargePrime> topher_: you can use terminal?
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> and then recheck it
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> does that fix it?
[16:41] <FloodBot2> moltenbobcat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <l1m5> bazhang, i have had no problems in the past doing this
[16:41] <Guest34495> I'm trying to open Hardware Devices so I could install an ATI driver.. it just keeps "searching" for drivers, taking too long. It never does this..
[16:41] <indus> who knows anything about tv tuner cards
[16:41] <Guest34495> hardware drivers i mean
[16:42] <nerdy_kid2> were is smbs config file? dont know the package name to look for....
[16:42] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes, I can use Terminal.
[16:42] <klown> rolo:  didnt you install wicd the other day?
[16:42] <LargePrime> indus: if you find a good one let me know
[16:42] <ILMAN> billy: where is the download ?
[16:42] <bazhang> l1m5, what about now; try to install something small like vrms
[16:42] <rolo> Tried untick, says it';s disconnected, then retick, same as before
[16:42] <ILMAN> vrms?
[16:42] <ILMAN> what is it ?
[16:42] <indus> pinnacle pctv iam usinh
[16:42] <billy> ILMAN what?
[16:42] <rolo> I see there's some problems mentioned with DHCP and jaunty.  I wonder if I should try putting manual details in?
[16:42] <sandos> are there any instructions somewhere for debugging flash? my flashplayer-nonfree locks up after max 4 mins of browsing, and I cant fix it
[16:42] <LargePrime> topher_: can you cd to /boot/grub and sudo gedit menu.lst?
[16:43] <indus> LargePrime: pinnacle pctv 50 i seems fine,but i need to configure remo
[16:43] <indus> te
[16:43] <rolo> dhclient says "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[16:43] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, topher_ with gedit use gksudo
[16:43] <l1m5> bazhang, yes vrms installed just fine from command line
[16:43] <bazhang> rolo, wireless?
[16:43] <rolo> Jaunty laptop I'm using now on the same wired network is fine with DHCP tho
[16:43] <rolo> bazhang: wired
[16:43] <indus> LargePrime: but mythtv is way too overrated, iam using tv time which tuned my channels
[16:43] <LargePrime> bastidrazor: can you link me why?
[16:43] <indus> mythtv dont tune indian channels :(
[16:43] <bazhang> l1m5, when did this start happening?
[16:43] <Paavi2_0> nerdy_kid2: it's under /etc as almost all the "normal" configs
[16:44] <l1m5> bazhang, yesterday
[16:44] <topher_> LargePrime Bastidrazor: I need a little walkthrough since I'm a Ubuntu's beginner.
[16:44] <l1m5> it ran updates fine and now im having all kinds of weird problems updating
[16:44] <Paavi2_0> nerdy_kid2: in this case /etc/smb.conf
[16:44] <bazhang> l1m5, following an update? or installation or other
[16:44] <l1m5> bazhang, i also can't get my trash to appear on the panel
[16:44] <nerdy_kid2> Paavi2_0 thanks sorry didnt know that
[16:44] <bastidrazor> !gksudo > LargePrime
[16:44] <rolo> it did tell me there were updates available although now it cant install them coz of no connection.  i wonder if an update broke the networking which means it couldnt finish?
[16:44] <l1m5> l1m5, i believe it was following an update
[16:44] <bazhang> rolo, does ifconfig show eth0
[16:44] <l1m5> bazhang, i believe it was following an update
[16:44] <l1m5> bazhang, but i'm not absolutely sure
[16:45] <rolo> bazhang: yes, ifconfig shows eth0 but no IP address or subnet
[16:45] <Guest34495> I'm trying to open HARDWARE DRIVERS but it just keeps loading, nothings happening.............................................................. i want to install ATI proprietory drivers
[16:45] <LargePrime> topher_: open terminal gksudo /boot/gurb/menu.lst something like that.  rather new at ubuntu myself
[16:45] <rolo> If I compare it to whats on my laptop it's similar output but missing the IP address and subnet part
[16:45] <LargePrime> bastidrazor: epic fail
[16:45] <Paavi2_0> nerdy_kid2: next time read the ubuntu documentation, please! :) https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[16:45] <bazhang> l1m5, your sources.list look good, and the updates and installs work from the command line, this is very odd; how much ram on your machine? could be a bug as well
[16:45] <MaarekStele> l1m5: I'd say that it's the network. If you attempt to update before a connection is made to the internet, you'll see that problem.  I've ran into it once or twice, now I just wait for the connection to take place
[16:46] <LargePrime> !gksudo|largeprime
[16:46] <nerdy_kid2> Paavi2_0 thanks for link will read
[16:46] <l1m5> MaarekStele, I don't think this is the problem as it occurs both at home and at work with separate connections
[16:46] <thiebaude> MaarekStele: yea, i had that problem before
[16:46] <bazhang> Guest34495, no need for the ..... what ati card and which version of ubuntu
[16:46] <l1m5> bazhang, i have 4gb of ram
[16:46] <MaarekStele> l1m5: is there anything in the update list that doesn't get updated... like UbuntuOne?
[16:46] <LargePrime> topher_: you get it open?
[16:46] <bazhang> l1m5, could be a theme then, (might try changing one) or video issue
[16:47] <topher_> LargePrime: That command didn't work.
[16:47] <LargePrime> bastidrazor: thanks much
[16:47] <Guest34495> bazhang sorry I was holding that while... thinking.. anyways HD4670. Ubuntu Jaunty, the latest
[16:47] <l1m5> bazhang, i could try that. is there a way to do a complete 'repair install' of the OS
[16:47] <l1m5> bazhang, i need this macine for work and don't really have time to diagnose this seemingly random problem
[16:47] <topher_> Largeprime: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:47] <bazhang> Guest34495, the fglrx? that seems to be very problematic in Jaunty, best stick with the radeon driver (open source one)
[16:47] <topher_> Largeprime: Is that correct?
[16:47] <rolo> Any other ideas?
[16:48] <rolo> I got a job interview tomorrow and really need a network connection :s
[16:48] <Guest34495> bazhang What do you mean? Do I already have the radeon driver?
[16:48] <MaarekStele> l1m5: alright, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[16:48] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, :)
[16:48] <MaarekStele> l1m5: alright, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:48] <bazhang> l1m5, try the livecd, just use the command line, or try some of my other suggestions
[16:48] <Guest34495> bazhang the fglrx driver fixed my cursor problem the last time.. my cursor's all messed up..
[16:48] <LargePrime> topher_: gksudo gedit  and we will nav to there
[16:48] <l1m5> MaarekStele, I have already done that
[16:48] <bazhang> l1m5, also make sure you are completely up to date (upgraded)
[16:49] <l1m5> bazhang, how can i do this if i can't update?
[16:49] <bazhang> l1m5, you just said you could via the command line
[16:49] <l1m5> yeah but when i do the sudo apt-get update it launches the update manager that freezes
[16:49] <bazhang> l1m5, now try sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:49] <LargePrime> topher_: you get it open?
[16:49] <MaarekStele> bazhang: I asked that
[16:49] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes.
[16:50] <bazhang> l1m5, launches? how are you invoking it?
[16:50] <klown> rolo:  did you try to specify an ip address?
[16:50] <LargePrime> topher_: nav to root of filesystem, then boot, then grub
[16:50] <albertico> hi
[16:50] <l1m5> bazhang, idk when i type sudo apt-get update it downloads some info which i posted earlier and then launches the update manager
[16:50] <l1m5> which then freezes
[16:50] <rolo> klown: hi.  I do that in the network manager applet?  I'll try again now.  i did it before, but it didn't show up in ifconfig.  I'll try agian now.
[16:51] <rolo> I only have "eth0 auto" is that the right place to put it?
[16:51] <bazhang> l1m5, simply type sudo apt-get upgrade (nothing else)
[16:51] <topher_> LargePrime: The only thing that opened up is Unsaved Document, is that correct?
[16:51] <l1m5> ok that appears to have worked and installed
[16:51] <rolo> klown: ah yeah, I have manual details in there, but they dont show up in efconfig
[16:51] <albertico> on my new ubuntu 9.04 installation, the kacpid process is eating up my processor, does anyone know how to fix this?
[16:51] <l1m5> i guess i will just update manually from command line occasionally
[16:51] <Guest34495> bazhang is the open source radeon drivers: xserver-xorg-video-radeon  ?
[16:51] <rolo> ifconfig even
[16:51] <klown> rolo:  this is the network manager, correct, not wicd
[16:51] <LargePrime> topher_: yep.  we will van and open menu.lst
[16:51] <LargePrime> van = nav
[16:52] <rolo> klown: network manager next to clock?  yeah
[16:52] <bazhang> rolo, no eth0 in ifconfig?
[16:52] <topher_> LargePrime: How do you do that?
[16:52] <rolo> eth0 shows up, just not with an ip address
[16:52] <rolo> the two lines with IP address, subnet, etc don't show
[16:52] <topher_> LargePrime: Nevermind, Lol.
[16:52] <bazhang> rolo, and what does sudo dhclient eth0 return?
[16:52] <rolo> On my laptop second line shows IP address, on desktop it jumpts straight to UP BROADCAST
[16:52] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm at root, that's right, right?
[16:52] <LargePrime> topher_: file>open
[16:53] <rolo> trying now...
[16:53] <albertico> does anyone know how to fix the kacpid service from eating up the processor?
[16:53] <rolo> (does it matter I got addresses specified for eth0 now?)
[16:53] <yoman1> I dunno what to do: grub error 18
[16:53] <bazhang> rolo, no
[16:53] <LargePrime> topher_: did you open the "open" menu.  are you browsing to open a file?
[16:53] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes.
[16:53] <yoman1> could some1 help me out?
[16:54] <LargePrime> topher_: nav to /boot/grub open menu.lst
[16:54] <klown> rolo:  did it work?
[16:54] <yoman1> how can I make a complete backup?
[16:54] <yoman1> just tar?
[16:54] <rolo> Okay, I get a load of DHCPDISCOVER lines, port 67, interval 3, etc.  6 of them lines with different intervals.  Then No DHCPOFFERS received.  No working leaqses in persistent database - sleeping.  Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd only
[16:54] <bazhang> yoman1, help with what? fixing grub? did you read the grub documentation and follow it?
[16:55] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm at boot, but I don't see grub open menu.
[16:55] <LargePrime> topher_: if we were better at terminal we couldave just typed gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:55] <disappearedng> Hey how do I join wmv files together
[16:55] <yoman1> yeah it doesn't work it's error 18 cylinder error
[16:55] <LargePrime> topher_: do you see /grub
[16:55] <disappearedng> combine abc.wmv.001 with abc.wmv.002
[16:55] <bazhang> yoman1, fixing grub does not work?
[16:55] <yoman1> no
[16:56] <bazhang> yoman1, which part of fixing grub does not work
[16:56] <LargePrime> topher_: do you see /grub
[16:56] <yoman1> I think I need to create a partition in the front of the disk to install the grub inside
[16:56] <topher_> LargePrime: Nothing says /grub, but I did that gksudo shit and it took me to a file.
[16:56] <LargePrime> file named menu.lst
[16:56] <klown> rolo:  you said it was working yesterday?
[16:56] <SoulBlade> anybody use swfdec for flash?  seems like it doesn't support sites like CNN, Comedy Central, TED, or CBS
[16:56] <LargePrime> topher_: file named menu.lst
[16:56] <yoman1> 1 sec I tell you
[16:56] <SoulBlade> has anybody else experienced this, or do you guys use the adobe plugin?
[16:57] <LargePrime> topher_: bunch of ## blah blah
[16:57] <topher_> LargePrime: Nope.
[16:57] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: i had problems before with it had to delete it now everthing works great
[16:57] <ascheel> How can I keep gdm from loading on boot so it takes me straight to the command line login prompt (headless system)
[16:57] <Guest34495> what drivers should i use for my ati hd4670
[16:57] <LargePrime> topher_: what is the file name
[16:57] <SoulBlade> thiebaude - delete it and then reinstall it or use soemthign else?
[16:57] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: i use the flash from the adobe site
[16:57] <SoulBlade> ah ok
[16:57] <topher_> LargePrime: abi-2.6.28.-11-generic
[16:58] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: i deleted it from synaptic, i had flash already installed
[16:58] <rolo> klown:  yeah, all fine yesterday
[16:58] <klown> rolo:  this is just a guess, try to run ifconfig eth0 down
[16:58] <klown> then, ifconfig eth0 up
[16:58] <rolo> klown:  been fine for months.  it did say there were updates this morning, although no connection to download them, so I think maybe something midway through an update knackered it
[16:58] <rolo> cool, trying now.
[16:58] <yoman1> Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[16:58] <yoman1> .lst "... failed
[16:58] <yoman1> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[16:58] <LargePrime> topher_: you  typed "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and got abi-2.6.28.-11-generic  ??????
[16:58] <mabus> so the display on my eeepc is broken. Trying to connect to wifi using it. I have eth0 connected to a router I have, and it got an address on dhcp that I have been able to ssh to now using another system. I'm used to using the gui to set the wifi connection, but when I set essid on wlan0 to the network I want to use, it fails to get an address when I run dhclient. any idea how to get my wifi connected on the command line?
[16:59] <topher_> LargePrime: Yeah
[16:59] <rolo> klown:  okay, done that
[16:59] <ascheel> Can somebody tell me how to disable the GUI on boot so it boots straight to a terminal?
[16:59] <yoman1> so that's the problem
[16:59] <klown> rolo:  see if u have an ip now
[16:59] <john> what drivers should i use for my ati hd4670? I'm running Ubuntu Jaunty
[16:59] <rolo> klown:   no IP still :(
[17:00] <yoman1> what shall I do?
[17:00] <bazhang> mabus, wlan0 shows up in ifconfig?
[17:00] <thiebaude> ascheel: can you ctrl alt f2 before you get to a boot screen?
[17:00] <mabus> bazhang: yes it does
[17:00] <LargePrime> topher_: you  typed "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"  note that MENU.LST is the file name...
[17:01] <yoman1> create a partition in front of the disk and install grub in there?
[17:01] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes.
[17:01] <klown> rolo:  im not sure how it works, never tried it.  but in a post on liuxquestions.org someone is suggesting dhclient -r as root
[17:01] <bazhang> mabus, this is encrypted or not (the AP)
[17:01] <LargePrime> topher_: it does not seem possiable to open a file named MENU>LST and get a file named anything else to open
[17:01] <mabus> bazhang: network is not encrypted
[17:02] <bastidrazor> ascheel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198049   posts 4 and 5 should help
[17:02] <yoman1> so any idea?
[17:02] <Hylian> hello guys, i need help, i need to set up a partition of ntfs for a computer, through the ubuntu live cd, how do i gain access to a partition editor?
[17:02] <rolo> klown: tried it, no dice.
[17:02] <Hylian> er a partition of fat32
[17:02] <bazhang> mabus, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return ; if it is hidden you may need to associate the ap
[17:02] <Hylian> !partition
[17:02] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, you still around the kb ?
[17:03] <klown> rolo:  im still looking.
[17:03] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm running Ubuntu off a disc.
[17:03] <yoman1> any idea?
[17:03] <topher_> LargePrime: I think that's the problem.
[17:03] <rolo> klown: thanks :) really appreciate your help.  I'm gonna try uninstalling virtualbox, as that has a network interface listed and I think it may have been one of the updates
[17:03] <Hylian> is gparted on the live cd?
[17:03] <switch10_> Hylian: it's under system on the live cd
[17:03] <Hylian> awesome thank you
[17:03] <LargePrime> topher_: close the file.  then file>open
[17:03] <mabus> bazhang: tries a few intervals and times out
[17:03] <switch10_> Hylian: ya but they call It partition editor
[17:04] <bazhang> mabus, does iwconfig see it
[17:04] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, i tried putting the acpi=off but it didn't work. it still only boots from battery if i hit keys on the kb but boots fine with a/c power
[17:04] <LargePrime> topher_: on the left choose filesystem
[17:04] <yoman1> any idea?
[17:04] <armon> Hi, all .Anyone know  how to list the shared libraries that a process has loaded, Including staticly linked and dynamically opened with dlopen()?
[17:04] <john2> I have the ATI HD4670. What drivers should I use for it? How do I obtain these drivers... etc..
[17:04] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 mabus here is how to configure from the command line
[17:04] <mabus> bazhang: yes, it was not associated and then I did iwconfig wlan0 ap any and it associated, but still cant dhcp
[17:04] <topher_> LargePrime: Then select 'boot'?
[17:05] <klown> rolo:  dumb question, but have you tried to restart?
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: yep
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: see grub
[17:05] <topher_> LargePrime: Nope, same thing.
[17:05] <bazhang> mabus, that is odd, sometimes takes me a couple of tries to connect
[17:05] <rolo> klown:  yeah, many times, will do another now though as just removed virutalbox
[17:05] <thiebaude> SoulBlade: is your flash ok, now?
[17:05] <Uqbar> hello, I'm running 9.04 on i386. I have an Intel graphics card and I'm using the "X-Updates PPA" and "xorg-edgers PPA" packages to work around 9.04's regression. I've run an upgrade today and now X segfaults at startup with the intel driver. is there a new set of packages to grab somewhere?
[17:05] <bazhang> mabus, and no mac filtering on?
[17:05] <LargePrime> topher_: read to me what it says on the left when you hit open
[17:05] <klown> rolo:  you have a router, correct?
[17:06] <keanu> I'm trying to get pulseaudio working with HDMI.  pavucontrol is recognizing the HDMI output, and the volume meter there is showing that sound should be going through it
[17:06] <LargePrime> topher_: We need to select the hard drive on the left
[17:06] <john2> I have the ATI HD4670. What drivers should I use for it? How do I obtain these drivers..?
[17:06] <LargePrime> topher_: I think we are in the wrong filesystem
[17:06] <keanu> however, i'm not getting any sound.  I've gotten sound before with it, but had to restart, and since then, haven't gotten it back. any ideas?
[17:06] <rolo> klown: router, yeah
[17:06] <topher_> LargePrime: Should I just reinstall this..?
[17:07] <LargePrime> topher_: Do you see the disk on the left?
[17:07] <rolo> klown: am wired into the router on my laptop right now though.  swapped the cables too so I know it's not that
[17:07] <LargePrime> topher_: Do you see the HDD on the left?
[17:07] <billy> hey if u have a good wallpaper u want share with me feel free as i am lookin for one :D
[17:07] <bastidrazor> topher_, if you're on a liveCd you'll need to mount your harddrive.. then navigate to the appropriate directory
[17:08] <LargePrime> dam you bastidrazor !!!! ofcourse
[17:08] <john2> Oh dear god ..
[17:08] <LargePrime> lol
[17:08] <klown> rolo:  try an ip outside of your router.
[17:08] <mabus> bazhang: no mac filtering, and those commands didnt work. only thing they are doing differntly on thaat article is releasing their address before requesting one
[17:08] <switch10_> billy: hey search ubuntu wallpapers in google. There are some good ones
[17:08] <LargePrime> topher_: on the menu bar choose places
[17:08] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, have him mount it to /media/mountpoint .. that way it'll show on the desktop and will be easier to get around in
[17:09] <bazhang> billy, gnome-look.org
[17:09] <topher_> LargePrime: Wow, I'm lost now.
[17:09] <hotdog003> Hello! How do I get NetworkManager to ignore eth0? I put it in /etc/network/interfaces, but NetworkManager still wants to manage it.
[17:09] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig etho 192.168.2.175 (assuming your gateway is 192.168.2.1)
[17:09] <LargePrime> bastidrazor you make it sound Like I know how to do that?
[17:10] <LargePrime> topher_: close gedit
[17:10] <LargePrime> topher_: dont save
[17:10] <bastidrazor> LargePrime, find the /dev/sdX name then simply sudo mount /dev/sdX /media/mountpoint .. of course you'll need to create the directory in /media
[17:10] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:10] <LargePrime> bastidrazor: or just have him open places
[17:10] <mandel> hello, does anyone know a good tutorial to make deb packages for python apps?
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: Sorry, closed out of IRC
[17:11] <panfistmx> i'm trying to use gdb to get a backtrace of a program crash but i'm not quite sure how. the program's website offers this suggestion but i'm still a little confused: http://gopchop.sourceforge.net/report_bugs.php
[17:11] <rolo_> well, reset the router
[17:11] <rolo_> lol
[17:11] <LargePrime> topher_: did you change the sixe of the install partition?
[17:11] <rolo_> klown: reset router as well.
[17:11] <LargePrime> topher_: did you change the size of the install partition?
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: I didn't change anything.
[17:11] <topher_> LargePrime: I deleted it.
[17:11] <klown> rolo:  did you get my ifconfig msg, or did u restart before that.
[17:12] <rolo_> klown: reset before that
[17:12] <LargePrime> topher_: and did not reclaim the space
[17:12] <klown> rolo:  try an ip outside of your router.
[17:12] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig etho 192.168.2.175 (assuming your gateway is 192.168.2.1)
[17:12] <topher_> LargePrime: I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu
[17:12] <topher_> LargePrime: Way faster.
[17:12] <mabus> bazhang: even when I set IP manually, and go to ping 4.2.2.1, I get a reply from the router eth0 is connected to that destination net is unreachable, even though I set the default gw to 192.168.10.1, which is what wlan0 should be associated with
[17:13] <topher_> LargePrime: Any suggested builds..? LinuxMint is good from what I hear.
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: ok.  but did you reclaim the space when you deleted your partition?
[17:13] <dude> gnome-shell is really neat :)
[17:13] <topher_> LargePrime: Yes, I did.
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: you are in an ubuntu forum
[17:13] <dayo> which command-line mail tool to u use, for automated mails from your server services, e.g. your proxy sending a mail to you.
[17:13] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:13] <LargePrime> topher_: then you prolly want a reinstall anyway
[17:13] <rolo_> klown:  Oooh!  That gives me an address in ifconfig...!...
[17:14] <rolo_> Still no routing though.
[17:14] <rolo_> Can you see these messages?
[17:14] <LargePrime> yes
[17:14] <albertico> my wireless is not working on ubuntu 9.04... hp pavilion laptop
[17:14] <klown> rolo:  what is your gateway?  is it 192.168.2.1?
[17:14] <albertico> anyone with this same problem?
[17:14] <Bala> hi everyone
[17:14] <LargePrime> albertico: do you have a wireless switch on the laptop
[17:14] <rolo_> klown: 192.168.1.254
[17:15] <Bala> anyone help me plz
[17:15] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:15] <Uqbar> well, I just dpkg -i'ed the previous xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[17:15] <rolo_> klown: infact, with that ifconfig command I can set to a real IP
[17:15] <ILMAN> ftp client for ubuntu
[17:15] <LargePrime> !help|bala
[17:15] <albertico> LargePrime: yep, turned on
[17:15] <ILMAN> ftp client for ubuntu
[17:15] <rolo_> klown: but still no routing
[17:15] <ILMAN> ?
[17:15] <klown> rolo:  that was the point :P
[17:15] <disappearedng> Hey is it possible to remove an entry in an iterable?
[17:15] <LargePrime> albertico: turn off, wait, turn on.  are you curretly wired?
[17:15] <dude> rolo: netstat -r or route should say how your routes are , if not there you need to add one :)
[17:15] <klown> rolo:  try ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.160
[17:16] <rolo_> okay.  done that
[17:16] <bazhang> !ftp > ILMAN
[17:16] <Ti-dev> hi, I'm struggling to build mesa 7.4.4 to fix a bug with my drivers and I'm encountering errors. I'm not really sure what it is...any help? Please...Thanks..
[17:16] <john2> what drivers should i use for my HD4670 INSTEAD Of the proprietory ones?
[17:16] <klown> rolo:  nothing, still?
[17:17] <rolo_> nothing
[17:17] <bazhang> john2, the OSS one
[17:17] <rolo_> what do I do with netstat?
[17:17] <albertico> LargePrime: I am currently wired through a lan cable
[17:17] <john2> bazhang how do i get it
[17:17] <john2> bazhang I tried Googlin
[17:17] <bazhang> john2, from synaptic package manager
[17:17] <john2> what do i look for
[17:17] <LargePrime> albertico: can you see the network aplet on the panel?
[17:17] <Bala> gnome-ppp problem connecting help me anyone....................
[17:17] <Ti-dev> anyone?
[17:17] <albertico> LargePrime: yes
[17:18] <ascheel> bastidrazor: so if I 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' it should prevent me from getting to the GUI altogether?
[17:18] <john2> bazhang X.Org X server -- ATI Radeon display driver ?
[17:18] <LargePrime> albertico: when you click on it does it show wired and wireless
[17:18] <bazhang> john2, it will list it as the Open Source version Radeon
[17:18] <LargePrime> albertico: networks
[17:18] <albertico> LargePrime: only Wired... no Wireless section shown
[17:18] <bastidrazor> ascheel, it will stop gdm from loading yes. the only way to get to a GUI would be to manually start it.
[17:18] <klown> rolo:  did you try to ping anything yet?
[17:18] <Bala> anyone usnig gnome-ppp ?
[17:19] <ascheel> bastidrazor: that's exactly what I"m lokoing for.  :)  Thanks!
[17:19] <LargePrime> albertico: right click on it.  Wireless enabled?
[17:19] <bastidrazor> ascheel, cool, enjoy.
[17:19] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, you could start giving a litle bit more information
[17:19] <heatmzzr> when I am using Ubuntu and trying to open a file on my other drive, I right click on open with sudo and nothing happens?????????
[17:19] <albertico> LargePrime: the Wireless Enable option is not shown
[17:19] <diddy> Hi folks, I have a question. I installed mysql on Ubuntu Linux and also installed the media wiki software. The software is working fine and I can see the DB under /var/lib/mysql. However, when I start the mysql client and issue: SHOW DATABASES; then I can only see "DATABASE" and "information_schema". Why is that?
[17:20] <albertico> LargePrime: if I do a lshw, I see my wired interface and another interface as "network DISABLED"
[17:20] <rolo_> klown: cant ping anything, or the gateway still
[17:20] <john2> bazhang I don't see one
[17:20] <heatmzzr> when I am using Ubuntu and trying to open a file on my other drive, I right click on open with sudo and nothing happens? I can get to the drive but I cant open any files?
[17:20] <prince_jammys> diddy: try at #mysql too
[17:20] <klown> rolo:  for the hell of it, try to ping 127.0.0.1
[17:20] <panfistmx> is there a program that can help me break up a vob file into separate chunks? gopchop crashes for me all the time
[17:21] <diddy> prince_jammys, I already did.
[17:21] <klown> er. try ping -c 3 127.0.0.1
[17:21] <rolo_> klown: replies fine
[17:21] <klown> sorry
[17:21] <klown> t
[17:21] <rolo_> find again
[17:21] <klown> rolo:  try ping -c 3 www.aol.com
[17:21] <trashbarg> john2: radeonhd(4)
[17:21] <ILMAN> i am looking
[17:21] <ILMAN> for a
[17:21] <ILMAN> good!
[17:21] <rolo_> no dns
[17:21] <ILMAN> client
[17:21] <FloodBot2> ILMAN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <ILMAN> for Linux
[17:21] <klown> hm.
[17:21] <ILMAN> somthing like FLashFXP
[17:21] <panfistmx> ilman put your question on one line please
[17:21] <klown> rolo:  try ping -c 3 192.168.1.254
[17:21] <bazhang> ILMAN, don't ues the enter key after one word
[17:22] <ILMAN> okay
[17:22] <Bala> klown do u know how to use gnome-ppp
[17:22] <rolo_> dest host unreachable
[17:22] <john2> bazhang X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver
[17:22] <klown> Bala:  never tried.
[17:22] <ILMAN> i am looking for a good FTP client , like FLashFTP but for Linux
[17:22] <bazhang> ILMAN, and you read the bot link I sent you?
[17:22] <ILMAN> i found some ugly
[17:22] <rolo_> ILMAN: FileZilla
[17:22] <Bala> klown no one can solve this problem
[17:22] <agruman> i just installed another dvd reader in my system and ubuntu links /dev/dvd1 to this (/dev/sr0) and /dev/dvd to the old (/dev/sr1). Where would i go to change that order? So my new gets used as default by all apps using /dev/dvd?
[17:22] <ILMAN> yes
[17:22] <ILMAN> this are ugly
[17:23] <ILMAN> i need comfort!
[17:23] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: ok...umm...well to start with, I issue the command, "make linux-dri-x86". It ends with some error messages that I can't seem to figure out. It ends like so, dri2.o returns Error 1, subdirs Error 1, default Error1 and linux-dri-x86 Error2...This isn't the actual the full set of errors though...
[17:23] <bazhang> ILMAN, stop with the enter key please
[17:23] <dude> rolo_: do a sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254
[17:23] <danbhfive> !ftp | ILMAN
[17:23] <LargePrime> albertico: I think you are beyond me
[17:23] <LargePrime> albertico: update?
[17:23] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: Scroll up and try to find out the first error message.
[17:24] <ILMAN> what sould i chose?
[17:24] <ILMAN> i need your recommand not the bot onme
[17:24] <dude> rolo_: if you don't have the default route in your route command or 'netstat -r'
[17:24] <ILMAN> one*
[17:24] <prince_jammys> ILMAN: filezilla is pretty popular.
[17:24] <bazhang> ILMAN, choose one yourself.
[17:24] <rolo_> dude: done that, still dest host unreachable
[17:24] <LargePrime> albertico: what pavillion?
[17:24] <rolo_> netstat -r now shows that default route with my gateway correctly, plus two "empty" ones.
[17:24] <rolo_> as I have two cards
[17:24] <thinkertinker> hi all
[17:25] <albertico> LargePrime: hp pavilion dv9000
[17:25] <rolo_> genmask is all zeroes though on the default
[17:25] <LargePrime> albertico: what wireless card?  Broadcom?
[17:25] <klown> rolo:  what is in your /etc/network/interfaces
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: its an Intel
[17:26] <rolo_> auto lo
[17:26] <rolo_> iface lo inet loopback
[17:26] <LargePrime> albertico" did it ever work under ubuntu?
[17:26] <mipnamic> hi folk, I'm trying to recovery deleted files from an external 400gb hard disk, I tried to use "testdisk" and I saw my files but I don't know "how to get them back"... anyone had suggestions?
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: I don't know the exact model...
[17:26] <albertico> LargePrime: It did worked on 8.04
[17:27] <klown> rolo_: ok.
[17:27] <dude> klown: think networkmanager would say that the 'Device is not managed' if there was something in interfaces. From my own exp.
[17:27] <dude> as opposed to 'Disconnected'
[17:27] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: dri2.c:117: error: ‘xDRI2ConnectReq’ has no member named ‘window’. Well that's the first line that starts with "error:" :D
[17:27] <FreeFull> How do I set the default browser to Firefox 3.5?
[17:27] <klown> dude: I'm wondering if its the second card, but rolo_ said its been working for months.
[17:28] <ILMAN> 10ס
[17:28] <ILMAN> 10x
[17:28] <ILMAN> now i have problem
[17:28] <ILMAN> with IRC server
[17:28] <edbian> FreeFull: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[17:28] <FloodBot2> ILMAN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <bazhang> FreeFull, system preferences preferred applications choose shiretoko
[17:28] <klown> rolo_: is the dns server correct?
[17:28] <rolo_> they're both onboard interfaces
[17:28] <rolo_> doesnt listit
[17:28] <LargePrime> albertico:  sorry.  I have nothing more.  you need better help than I have to give
[17:28] <ILMAN> i cant see hebrew on other IRC SERVER
[17:28] <FreeFull> edbian: I'm using fluxbox, not gnome
[17:28] <thiebaude> when is firefox 3.5 released for ubuntu?
[17:28] <rolo_> On my laptop irt shows gateway as the DNS server
[17:28] <edbian> FreeFull: Than I have no idea.
[17:28] <dude> well ifconfig would say what MAC-ADRESS it has, and the mac says what model it is :)
[17:28] <rolo_> But presumable that wouldn't stop me pinging the gateway
[17:28] <klown> rolo_: doesnt list dns?
[17:28] <bazhang> thiebaude, in the repos now, called shiretoko when installed
[17:28] <ILMAN> i cant see hebrew on other IRC SERVER
[17:29] <thiebaude> bazhang: thanks
[17:29] <rolo_> klown: ifconfig doedsnt list DNS
[17:29] <heatmzzr> What is the command to open a file browser as root?
[17:29] <albertico> LargePrime: thanks anyway!  :)
[17:29] <rolo_> on my broken one
[17:29] <edbian> heatmzzr: gksu
[17:29] <maxagaz_> how to use tcpdump ? each time i try it, it returns : tcpdump: no suitable device found
[17:29] <dude> rolo_: oh yeah, do you have anything in /etc/resolv.conf? :)
[17:29] <edbian> heatmzzr: gksu is for opening graphical apps as root.
[17:29] <klown> rolo_: its difficult to test, cus im using wicd
[17:29] <agruman> anyone here know what program creates the /dev/dvd symlink dynamically?
[17:29] <Ti-dev> trashbarg?
[17:30] <edbian> heatmzzr: "gksu nautilus" will open the file manager as root :)
[17:30] <FreeFull> How do I set the default browser to Firefox 3.5? (running fluxbox, not gnome)
[17:30] <gartral> maxagaz_: tcpdump eth0 (for wired) wan0 (wireless)
[17:30] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: There is some guy experiencing the same problem: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=501627
[17:30] <coz_> maxagaz,   http://openmaniak.com/tcpdump.php
[17:30] <rolo_> dude:  resolv.conf just has a comment line "Generated by networkmanager"and nothing else
[17:30] <dude> :)
[17:30] <edbian> agruman: udev does :)
[17:30] <heatmzzr> edbian: thanks
[17:30] <danbhfive> FreeFull: try a symlink?
[17:30] <edbian> heatmzzr: NP
[17:30] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: cool..thanks dude, i'll check it out..
[17:30] <Spad-XIII> gartral: shouldn't that be wlan0 ?
[17:30] <dude> rolo_: put in  208.67.222.222 :)
[17:31] <FreeFull> danbhfive: Hmm, I will have to remove firefox 3.0 but it should work
[17:31] <rolo_> in resolv.conf?
[17:31] <agruman> edbian: ah ok, thanks alot, now i at least know what documentation to read :)
[17:31] <dude> yeah
[17:31] <gartral> Spad-XIII: Ive seen both... on some systems, both works :)
[17:31] <thiebaude> FreeFull: applications>system>admistration>gnome control center>preferred appllications, i dont know if you have that
[17:31] <dude> rolo_: it's your dns-list
[17:31] <edbian> agruman: Good luck! :)
[17:31] <FreeFull> thiebaude: I said fluxbox, not gnome
[17:31] <Spad-XIII> gartral: ah, i only have wlan0 and not wan0 .. and also wireless/wired networking trouble :)
[17:31] <thiebaude> FreeFull: i use openbox
[17:31] <dude> rolo_: oh you didn't get connection yet maybe? :) did you manage to ping your gateway?
[17:31] <rolo_> dude: done
[17:31] <rolo_> cant ping gatewayl, no
[17:32] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfz card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200)
[17:32] <dude> :)
[17:32] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfx card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200)
[17:32] <ianessex> just installed ubuntu to give it ago and im having trouble conecting wirelessly any ideas guys
[17:32] <gartral> ianessex: check the restricted drivers
[17:32] <coz_> maxagaz,  also run that as root  or   sudo tcpdump
[17:32] <maxagaz_> gartral, i still get this same message
[17:33] <klown> rolo_: add nameserver 192.168.1.254 to /etc/resolv.conf
[17:33] <coz_> maxagaz,   sudo tcpdump -v
[17:33] <gartral> maxagaz_: sudo tcpdump eth0/wlan0 isnt working?
[17:33] <dude> oh yeah, nameserver ;)
[17:33] <ianessex> hoe do i do that id the driver is restricted does that mean i cannot use my existing wireless set up to connect
[17:33] <gartral> coz hee needs too specify a device, IIRC
[17:33] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Quit breaking Firefox.
[17:33] <coz_> man tcpdump
[17:33] <coz_> darn
[17:34] <rolo_> okay, done
[17:34] <gartral> !wireless | ianessex
[17:34] <klown> dude: i had to pull up my /etc/resolv.conf to remember that :X
[17:34] <maxagaz_> gartral, thanks :)
[17:34] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: How am I breaking it?
[17:34] <rolo_> still not shjowing anything in ifconfig for DNS...
[17:34] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:34] <ILMAN> i want to check
[17:34] <klown> try ifconfig eth0 down
[17:34] <ILMAN> if i am the root
[17:34] <ILMAN> !!
[17:34] <klown> then up.
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
[17:34] <bazhang> !enter | ILMAN
[17:34] <Gevz> hi all
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Change the symlink for firefox.
[17:34] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: I already did  sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[17:34] <ILMAN> pts/1
[17:34] <mobi-sheep> FreeFull: Alrigh. :>
[17:34] <rolo_> done
[17:34] <rolo_> no joy
[17:34] <Spad-XIII> hmm.. i just installed the linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-13-generic and now i have a wired-network connection again ... go figure?
[17:35] <klown> rolo_: i hate your computer :P
[17:35] <mipnamic> lol
[17:35] <gartral> I seem too have "lost" the rotation setting for my gfx card (NVidia XFX GeForce 6200) it used too have a section in the NVidia drivers... but now It's gone
[17:35] <rolo_> same at the mo!!!
[17:35] <rolo_> It was all fine for ages.
[17:35] <rolo_> I dont get what could have happened.
[17:35] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: LBM has drivers in it
[17:35] <klown> rolo_: can u get to your router config, and verify that your dns is 192.168.1.254
[17:35] <gartral> !enter | rolo
[17:35] <rolo_> Its fine on my laptop
[17:35] <rolo_> Which Im using now with jaunty
[17:35] <FreeFull> mobi-sheep: The only reason I had 3.0 still installed was some problem with flash that was caused by experimental GTK libs and is fixed now
[17:35] <ILMAN> when i am writing on terminal who am i it returns [mynick] pts/1 [date][time] (:0.0)
[17:35] <Spad-XIII> and my wiresless works as well.. for the first time !?
[17:35] <ILMAN> am i the root?
[17:36] <rolo_> alas, I think I need to reboot to my windows partition.  i normally just use it for music, but I need to cram for an interview tomorrow and time is running out
[17:36] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: what do you mean? i'm still new to this stuff :) took me a while to figure out how to get the package without a network connection on the ubuntu-machine
[17:36] <rolo_> I just dont get whta could have hjappened.  must have been an update.
[17:36] <lomez> hi all- i installed mythubuntu on a desktop and everything is working great after some configuration and stuff, but im getting a SMART warning when i bootup. does anyone know a good disk imaging program where i can copy mythubuntu (and grub) to another HD?
[17:36] <gartral> ILMAN: sudo -s if it accept your password, ou may run as root
[17:36] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here familiar with ispconfig or knows where i can get help with it?
[17:36] <klown> rolo_: do me one favor before u leave for good.  try to restart again
[17:36] <rolo_> THanks loads for your help though you two, it's wikkid of you to help.
[17:36] <rolo_> okay, doing now...
[17:36] <gartral> !firefox
[17:36] <tanath> "Hardware Drivers" doesn't see my video card driver.
[17:37] <Baba_B00ie> does ubuntu 810 and 904 have a acpi bug ?
[17:37] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:37] <gartral> !firefox-3.5 > gartral
[17:37] <tanath> i'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI to try fglrx
[17:37] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: erm, I'm just telling you whats in the package (at least as far as I know).  All drivers in ubuntu are loaded via linux modules
[17:37] <tanath> but nothing shows up in "Hardware Drivers"
[17:37] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Sorry about missing your message earlier.  There is no known bug.  Is this an old computer?
[17:37] <hxc__> hey! can somebody tell me, is Ubuntu 9.04 server GUI?
[17:37] <lstarnes> hc: no
[17:37] <mobi-sheep> hxc__: No.
[17:37] <rFalk> does compiz-fusion work on xubuntu?
[17:37] <edbian> hxc__: No
[17:37] <bazhang> tanath, you have the radeonhd card?
[17:37] <tanath> i'm having insane graphical glitches
[17:37] <lstarnes> hc: sorry, wrong nick
[17:37] <hxc__> ok, thats sad
[17:37] <edbian> hxc__: But you can install the OS and add a GUI
[17:38] <hxc__> o
[17:38] <tanath> bazhang, ati radeon 9800se
[17:38] <hxc__> how can i add?
[17:38] <bazhang> tanath, is that radeonhd?
[17:38] <lstarnes> hxc__: in most cases, you shouldn't use a GUI on a server for performance reasons
[17:38] <hxc__> what way i need to look?
[17:38] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, that's ok, and no. it's a dual core amd 64. to help ya better, it's hp dv6000 series
[17:38] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: ok .. it's just weird that my wifi works all of a sudden .. i've been trying to get this to work for about a week .. installing the backports-modules seems to have done the trick
[17:38] <tanath> bazhang, i don't think so
[17:38] <dude> rolo_: for the fun of it just do a 'lshw | less' and then type /eth0 and press enter
[17:39] <mobi-sheep> hxc__: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[17:39] <lstarnes> hxc__: all packages available for the desktop edition are also available on the server edition
[17:39] <dude> rolo_: if you're still in linux
[17:39] <bazhang> tanath, if not then the non-proprietary driver is the only viable option for Jaunty
[17:39] <lstarnes> mobi-sheep: ubuntu-desktop might be a little heavy for a server
[17:39] <trashbarg> why would someone want to use ubuntu as a server?
[17:39] <tanath> bazhang, there are _no_ visible options
[17:39] <dude> rolo_: just to check that the card hasn't change or something
[17:39] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:39] <bazhang> tanath, in hardware drivers?
[17:39] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:39] <tanath> bazhang, yes
[17:40] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: according to the link you sent, it's something to do with xorg. I use Jaunty Jackelope which in turn uses xorg 1.6...required is 1.5. The dude with the prob seemed to have enabled "dri2" at compilation. To make a long story short, do I have to rebuild my xorg server??
[17:40] <danbhfive> Spad-XIII: oh yeah, and I think its better to say that it contains updated drivers, so you may have gotten an update that had a key bug fix or something
[17:40] <rolo_> dude: okay done that...
[17:40] <maxd> hello guild :>
[17:40] <mobi-sheep> lstarnes: Err. We should opt to tell him to use different kernels.
[17:40] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Perhaps there is a bug.  What exactly is the error again?  Remind me of your situation.  I saw that the "acpi=off" option didn't work.
[17:40] <dude> rolo_: was the card correct?
[17:40] <rolo_> dude:  logical name: eth0.
[17:40] <rolo_> dude: looks like it
[17:40] <tanath> bazhang, but since i can barely read here due to the graphical glitches on my screen, i need to try fglrx
[17:40] <mipnamic> hi folk, I'm trying to recovery deleted files from an external 400gb hard disk [fs: ext3], I tried to use "testdisk" and I can see my files but I don't know "how to get them back"... suggestions?
[17:40] <Baba_B00ie> edbian, ok to private msg ?
[17:40] <Klowny> ok well i tried ubuntu on my mom's computer, it's just as slow as windows, i think something is up with her hardware, her hardware is better than mine but her machine makes a loud buzzing noise
[17:40] <edbian> Baba_B00ie: Absolutely
[17:41] <rolo_> netstat -r is blank again since reboot.
[17:41] <rolo_> I gotta call it a day now.  Thanks for your help chaps.
[17:41] <klown> good luck rolo_
[17:41] <dude> rolo_: yeah, networkmanager doesn't fix it somehow
[17:41] <Spad-XIII> danbhfive: sounds fun .. i'm just glad that it finally works :) reading almost hundreds of old forum posts (2005 - 2007) didn't help .. reading some pages on http://wireless.kernel.org got me further .. hehe, how ironic
[17:41] <edbian> mipnamic: try reading "man testdisk" :)
[17:41] <lensyap1011> Whoops I mounted something multiple times... does that matter?
[17:41] <rolo_> anyway I can apply the updates without a network connection?
[17:41] <dude> rolo_: check over the syslog next time, see if anything wierd pops out
[17:41] <Klowny> woah klown lol
[17:41] <Klowny> thought i was the only one that used the name klown on the net lol
[17:42] <klown> klowny:  no, not at all, theres tons.
[17:42] <Spad-XIII> might be a nice additional !command perhaps? !wireless .. try installing the linux-backports-modules-jaunty ..
[17:42] <Klowny> go figure lol
[17:42] <dude> rolo_: the command 'sudo tail -f /var/log/*' is kinda good for debugging
[17:43] <Klowny> anyone use frostwire on ubuntu?
[17:43] <dude> rolo_: yeah it's possible , just do apt-get upgrade, then copy that list, download the packages and install them
[17:43] <Klowny> my sister uses it so i need to get it working correctly
[17:43] <rolo_> thanks
[17:43] <fjordlord_> hello how do i choose a file to open automatically with a specific program?
[17:43] <maxd> hwo do i access the squid-cgi interface ? :)
[17:43] <tanath> bazhang, i take it there should be something there?
[17:43] <dude> rolo_: just use a usb-stick, copying the text-file with packages, downloading them with apt-get on the other comp, then you could use nautilus to install them later on
[17:44] <danbhfive> !frostwire > Klowny
[17:44] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: If you dont get a packages with the options you want enabled, you have to compile it by yourself
[17:44] <gartral> !bash > ILMAN
[17:44] <klown> the one thing thats bothering me about that problem, is you dont normally see a gateway ending in .254
[17:44] <dude> rolo_: think it's apt-get download <packages>
[17:44] <lensyap1011> lo loh well i umounted it now... hopefully my data will be fine. it's not that important anyway
[17:44] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone here familiar with ispconfig or knows where i can get help with it?
[17:44] <bazhang> tanath, for the fglrx? you can try it, but from all accounts unless you have the radeonhd it will be very problematic at best
[17:44] <klown> normally it starts at the beginning of the iptable.
[17:44] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, ifconfig? what is ispconfig
[17:44] <tanath> bazhang, things are very problematic right now >.<
[17:44] <fjordlord_> for example i want AUDICIOUS for mp3s now it opens with Movie Player per automatique
[17:45] <Klowny> thanks for that dan but that doesn't help me, already been to that lol
[17:45] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: How do you come to compiling the module?
[17:45] <tanath> bazhang, my screen is fuzzy
[17:45] <bazhang> tanath, true, but the open sources one is less problematic at this point
[17:45] <tanath> bazhang, and text quickly becomes unreadable
[17:45] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: http://www.ispconfig.org/index.htm
[17:45] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: yeah, I think I got it...I think I missed an option for "./configure"..I'll try it now..thanks..I'm following this guide: http://www.mesa3d.org/autoconf.html
[17:45] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, what are you trying to do
[17:45] <danbhfive> Klowny: are you using the sun-java?
[17:45] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: I'm sorry, didn't quite get you?
[17:45] <Klowny> yes frostwire runs just fine
[17:45] <bazhang> fjordlord_, in gnome?
[17:46] <fjordlord_> bazhang, yes
[17:46] <klown> rolo_: if u have free time later, verify your ip, and gateway.  and make the necessary changes to /etc/resolv.conf
[17:46] <Klowny> but when i pick the saved folder, i want it to be the music folder that comes on ubuntu but it keeps saying unable to
[17:46] <dude> rolo_: well it wasn't that easy :) apt-get -d install <packages>, the will end up in /var/apt/cache i think
[17:46] <bazhang> fjordlord_, system preferences preferred applications can set it?
[17:46] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:46] <neosupport> hola chantas
[17:46] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, you dont want to compile it for no reason. Maybe there is an easier way to solve you problem?
[17:46] <bazhang> neosupport, #ubuntu-es por espanol
[17:46] <fjordlord_> bazhang, doesnt work happens nothing althogh its in there
[17:46] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: I ahve compiled it succesfully but i cant login from browser says connection refused or there might be a problem with the network, second time compiling while following instructions from their homesite
[17:47] <rolo_> klown/dude: thanks - I will pick this up later.  Not going back to Windows as I got everything just right on Ubuntu.  Just very frustrating for it to suddenly break, and really badly timed in that I need my machine badly today.  Hope I can fix it.
[17:47] <fjordlord_> maybe need reboot
[17:47] <PSPUbuntu> im having trouble with qpsp manager found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP
[17:47] <PSPUbuntu> i cant get it to compie the program
[17:47] <klown> rolo_: I understand, if you still have the problem tomorrow, we will continue :)
[17:47] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: not really, I'm trying to get 3D accel for the infamous mach64...no other way it seems...I used a different fix once. It worked but was for an older v. of ubuntu so it wasn't really successfull...
[17:48] <bazhang> fjordlord_, right click mp3 file choose properties open with choose audacious
[17:48] <PSPUbuntu> any 1 who could help me?
[17:48] <Klowny> "Invalid folder for saving files. Please use another folder or revert to the default." and this is just the regular music folder that comes with ubuntu fresh install
[17:48] <fjordlord_> ahhhhhhh
[17:48] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:48] <edbian> Klowny: What program?
[17:48] <fjordlord_> thanks alot bazhang !
[17:49] <Klowny> frostwire edbian
[17:49] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, what does ispconfig do? ie what is your end goal here
[17:49] <edbian> Klowny: Have you tried other folders
[17:49] <Klowny> trying to make it so it downloads musci straight to my music folder so i don't have to copy from it's default to my music folder
[17:49] <Klowny> hmm edbian just the default let me try a different one here
[17:49] <edbian> Klowny: Ok let me know
[17:49] <Uqbar> I've just installed libprojectm2 and libvisual-projectm. now how do I use it?
[17:50] <Klowny> ok just tried Music, documents, and pictures edbian all say the same thing
[17:50] <Klowny> unable to save there yet i can copy and paste files there
[17:50] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:50] <Acorn> how can I get my wireless network card working in ubuntu?
[17:50] <edbian> Klowny: Yeah.  You could let frostwire have it's way and just create a soft symlink. Do you know what that is? (or how to make one?)
[17:50] <c_nick> hi
[17:50] <Klowny> lol edbian no man
[17:51] <frostburn> Klowny, what program are you running that can't write to that folder? it sounds like a permissions issue
[17:51] <Klowny> i just need this fixed for my sister because all she does is music and i don't want her mad at me for deleting windows lol
[17:51] <Klowny> frostwire frostburn
[17:51] <edbian> Klowny: This will work :) Ok tell frostwire it can use the folder it wants.
[17:51] <Klowny> ok i just told it out loud that edbian
[17:51] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:51] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang: i want my server to be setup with it, supposed to make life easier controlling sites, changing file on apache/sql etc one of those all purpose application
[17:51] <Klowny> i'm a noob lol
[17:51] <edbian> Klowny: :P
[17:52] <frostburn> Klowny, can you run it in a terminal and output any errors it might display?
[17:52] <Klowny> sure if i knew how frost
[17:52] <mabus> how can I use NetworkManager on the command line?
[17:52] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, not sure about 3rd party sites/apps; may be consider something from the repos for that
[17:52] <neosupport> dice chespi que estan todas impriendo
[17:52] <bazhang> neosupport, English here #ubuntu-es for espanol
[17:52] <liveCD> hi,  how can i edit sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    using  live CD
[17:53] <SuspectZero> whts a good defragmenter for ntfs file systems that i can run in ubuntu?
[17:53] <neosupport> #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <bazhang> SuspectZero, do it from windows
[17:53] <bazhang> neosupport, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <SuspectZero> bazhang, cant i do it from ubuntu?
[17:53] <frostburn> Klowny, open a terminal, applications > accessories > terminal     then type frostwire
[17:53] <edbian> Klowny: What is the name the folder that frostwire accepts?
[17:53] <danbhfive> SuspectZero: all windows defragers require windows
[17:53] <Acorn> what steps can I take to get my wireless network card working?
[17:53] <SuspectZero> danbhfive, ah kk. thanks
[17:53] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:54] <Klowny> um /home/bobby/FrostWire/Saved is accepted for saving in frostwire no others that i can find
[17:54] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang, i would but i already spent plenty of time on this do want to fix it so I can test it as well
[17:54] <liveCD> pls help.  hi,  how can i edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    using  live CD
[17:54] <th0r> liveCD: you can't
[17:54] <liveCD> really
[17:55] <Klowny> btw it didn't give me any errors in the terminal though it gave that error inside frostwire
[17:55] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:55] <edbian> Klowny: Ok go to that folder in nautilus.  Right click on it and hit "make link"
[17:55] <liveCD> i changed it and now i cannot boot  ubuntu
[17:55] <th0r> liveCD: you need to have linux installed on a hard drive to edit menu.lst
[17:55] <Klowny> wait edbian what will that do? lol
[17:55] <edbian> Klowny: It will make a symlink.  Similar to a "shortcut" in windows
[17:56] <liveCD> th0r:  i have had already linux installed.  i just changed menu.lst  and now  i wanna edit it again with livecd
[17:56] <shivek> How can I reconfigure my dyndns host using terminal
[17:56] <Klowny> edbian ok i did that
[17:56] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:56] <switch10_> liveCD:  do you mean you have an install and you are using the live cd to change it?
[17:56] <edbian> Klowny: Now place that folder in /music (the link not the original)
[17:56] <liveCD> switch10_:  exactly
[17:56] <Klowny> ok i did
[17:57] <trashbarg> Ti-dev, sorry, i cant help you with that, but you should ask at #xorg. Comiling the server isnt a good idea, imo ubuntu is not the best system if you are about building your own binaries. But you could give it a try ;)
[17:57] <mabus> k so how do I use NetworkManager on the command line guise?
[17:57] <edbian> Now if you place a file in /home/bobby/frostwire/saved a shortcut to that file will show up in /home/bobby/music.
[17:57] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: hey I think I got it...I missed out some additional operators to include with "./configure" especially, "--with-driver=dri"
[17:57] <switch10_> liveCD  boot the live cd, mount your drive, and you're good to go
[17:57] <switch10_> hard drive
[17:57] <Klowny> that doesn't help me edbian because my sister burns music
[17:57] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: hehe yeah, but the xorg dudes are rather rude..
[17:57] <Klowny> and she will have everything messed up lol
[17:57] <edbian> Klowny: Frostwire is used to download music
[17:57] <Klowny> yes i know
[17:58] <Ti-dev> at least one or two of those tin's were..
[17:58] <edbian> Klowny: Maybe I don't understand your problem well enough.  Please explain
[17:58] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[17:58] <Klowny> perhaps a screenshot would be better edbian?
[17:58] <liveCD> switch10_:   but when i tyeeped this to terminal    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    it shows just a blank page
[17:58] <edbian> Klowny: Maybe. Send me one :)
[17:58] <RocketLauncher> when i try to drag a window to  my other screen... it doesn['t drag all the way.. the left side of that window stays on my other screen and i can't drag it any further.. Help.
[17:59] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Are you using compiz?
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian nope
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian well i don't think...
[17:59] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: i think theres a module you may have to load..
[17:59] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Then you can't drag windows onto other workspaces
[17:59] <linuxguy2009> Is there any apps in the repos that can record or download streaming video from places like hulu.com etc?
[17:59] <RocketLauncher> edbian i mean dual screening
[17:59] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: i had trouble before, but i ended up compiling my own kernel...
[18:00] <edbian> RocketLauncher: Oohh!!  Then I have no idea lol.  Never set up a dual screen :(
[18:00] <liveCD> so how can i be super user  with live cd
[18:00] <RocketLauncher> awww
[18:00] <RocketLauncher> :(
[18:00] <switch10_> liveCD:  because you are trying to access the boot list from the cd.  you need to change the directory to your hard disk with the installation on it
[18:00] <Spad-XIII> is there a way to have tasque start up automatically and minimized ? i have the first step covered (via system -> prefs -> startup applications)
[18:00] <linuxguy2009> liveCD: with livecd you are super user.
[18:00] <Klowny> trying to send it to you edbian
[18:00] <velcroshooz> C-S-B: that would be extremely annoying, as cpu scaling worked out of the box in -11
[18:00] <Klowny> says waiting for transfer to begin
[18:00] <joel1> liveCD: you have to cd into your hard drive
[18:01] <liveCD> switch10_:   please  say me how can i change directory then
[18:01] <edbian> Klowny: I see it.  Mine says "starting..."
[18:01] <switch10_> cd= change directory
[18:01] <Klowny> odd let me just upload it to flickr lol
[18:01] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: what version of ubuntu are you using? you *could* try a newer kernel?
[18:01] <edbian> ok
[18:01] <Ti-dev> you get em in *.deb format
[18:01] <C-S-B> velcroshooz: im not he be all and end of all of cpu scaling knowledge, have you tried to see if the cpu-scaler applet works?
[18:01] <edbian> Klowny: Still at 0% for me.  It's probably my network (I'm at work).
[18:02] <switch10_> liveCD  you cant just do it from the gui?
[18:02] <shivek> I have converted my pc into a web server. Now how to add files and all ?
[18:02] <om26er> how to calculate the write speed of a drive can any1 help me with that
[18:02] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: 9.04, this is the new kernel im having problems with. newest in synaptic i should say.
[18:02] <switch10_> it will be easier for you
[18:02] <Spad-XIII> hmm.. i should read slower .. minimized -> hide/hidden.. starting up with --quiet makes it hidden at startup ..
[18:02] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz, you mean 2.6.28-13-generic?
[18:02] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: correct
[18:02] <liveCD> switch10_:   in file system i enter the folder boot  and  then i cannot find any folder  named  grub
[18:03] <Ti-dev> you *can* try, 2.6.30 :D
[18:03] <om26er> !write
[18:03] <Out_Cold> Acorn, did you fix your wifi?
[18:03] <om26er> !speed
[18:03] <edbian> liveCD: Do you know how to mount a partition or what a partition is?
[18:03] <om26er> !disk
[18:03] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: yeah im going to have to compile it from scratch though arent I? I mean its within my knowledge but man all that just to get cpu scaling back when 2.6.28-11 is was running fine? ugh
[18:03] <om26er> plz tell me how to test the write speed of a drive
[18:03] <liveCD> edbian:  yes but what is the connection
[18:04] <switch10_> liveCD  cd into /boot then type "ls"
[18:04] <switch10_> on your hard drive
[18:04] <Out_Cold> off-topic but funny as heck... http://xkcd.com/149/
[18:04] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: no I mean the debian one
[18:04] <dust_t> hello i want to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 but / dir needs to have 2GB free space. How do I make free space in / ?
[18:04] <velcroshooz> Ti-dev: hows that? adding a debian repo?
[18:04] <Ti-dev> you just install it by typing, "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" after navigating to the dir you downloaded
[18:04] <switch10_> liveCD  ls = list
[18:04] <genii> !info bonnie++ | om26er
[18:04] <RocketLauncher> SOMEONE SAYS the reason a window doesn't drag all the way to the other screen (it gets stuck and doesn't go any further), is because of my window manager. Is this true? I'm running Jaunty, I just got xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, my card is an ATI HD4670
[18:04] <Ti-dev> gimme a sec I'll give you the links to download?
[18:05] <edbian> liveCD: you are looking at the filesystem on the CD.  You have to mount the filesystem on the harddrive to change it :)
[18:05] <switch10_> it will list everything in the directory
[18:05] <h0dges> hi, how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:06] <switch10_> liveCD  just boot into the gui????  it will be way easier for you
[18:06] <liveCD> edbian:  's filesystem in computer folder  belong to livecd
[18:06] <RocketLauncher> help my superduper is broken
[18:06] <Ti-dev> I use "axel", it's a high speed downloader..."axel -a -n 10 <url>" is the syntax I use...(-a, easier to understand output, -n, number of connections, 10 will divide one file to 10 parts, hence a faster download)
[18:06] <RocketLauncher> SOMEONE SAYS the reason a window doesn't drag all the way to the other screen (it gets stuck and doesn't go any further), is because of my window manager. Is this true? I'm running Jaunty, I just got xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, my card is an ATI HD4670
[18:06] <edbian> liveCD: If you're running of the liveCD then yes
[18:07] <Ti-dev> you can install that through the repos, "sudo apt-get install axel"
[18:07] <liveCD> edbian:   how can i reach my real menu.lst  :D
[18:07] <CoolShorts> Hi all, I'm having a graphical problem with dual screen:  http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5526/visualdualerror.png
[18:07] <CoolShorts> I'm using compiz effects and the wallpaper just 'ends' there
[18:07] <CoolShorts> really odd
[18:07] <edbian> liveCD: in a terminal type "fdisk -l" to list all of the partitions available
[18:08] <liveCD> switch10_:   in gui  how can i reach my real  menu.lst
[18:08] <deeflex> Hi! I wish to have two keyboard layouts, but the problem is that my alt-gr key stops working after adding the second one in 'keyboard layots'.
[18:08] <ltcabral> how to i change owner of a directory and everything inside it?
[18:08] <mezquitale> how do you @#$! record yourself using your laptop????  I can hear myself on the mic but I can't record myself
[18:08] <switch10_> liveCD  mount the hard drive, then use nautilis to find it
[18:08] <th0r> ltcabral: chown -R
[18:08] <switch10_> easy
[18:08] <ltcabral> th0r: thanks
[18:09] <switch10_> liveCD  the hard drive might even mount itself, i cant remember
[18:10] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: here are the url's...note that these are three different packages... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630_2.6.30-020630_all.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-image-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_i386.deb
[18:10] <liveCD> switch10_:  ok perfect, i found it  and  do it   but  it says  You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file
[18:10] <RocketLauncher> When I DRAG a WINDOW to my OTHER SCREEN, the left side of that window gets stuck, doesn't move any further to my other screen.. I really want this to work. Someone told me it was my WM, which is Gnome. Is this true?
[18:10] <kmh27> how do I clean my ext3 devices that apparently are 'unclean' after a power failure?  I'm trying fsck /dev/sda4 but get a 'no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda4/ message and info about superblock
[18:10] <switch10_> sudo
[18:11] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: ok my first prob was with "make linux-dri-x86" now it's the "make" command that follows "./configure"
[18:11] <CoolShorts> Anyone?
[18:11] <liveCD> switch10_:  but  you said im super user with live cd
[18:11] <liveCD> switch10_:   why cannot i have the permission to change it
[18:12] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: you kind of are, there's just no sudo password
 how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:12] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: when using the live-cd that is
[18:12] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, why are you building??
[18:12] <RocketLauncher> When I DRAG a WINDOW to my OTHER SCREEN, the left side of that window gets stuck, doesn't move any further to my other screen.. I really want this to work.
[18:12] <switch10_> liveCD not if you're changing it on an install
[18:12] <liveCD> Spad-XIII:   i mounted my  hard dive and then found the  file  menu.lst   but  i cannot save it
[18:12] <Spliffster> hi all. i just got a dbus update in jaunty and now my desktop turned into a door stopper. dbus permission problems for network-admin, colume control, user manager (gnome) and probably more. all related to dbus permission problems. any hints how to fix this ?
[18:13] <bazhang> RocketLauncher, are you using compiz? you have dual screens set up?
[18:13] <switch10_> just do sudo dude
[18:13] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: now why does everyone ask this Q??? coz I want my blasted mach64 card to work?? :D
[18:13] <liveCD> switch10_:   im in gui  mode now
[18:13] <Spad-XIII> liveCD: use sudo to edit it .. should work, like switch10_ says
[18:13] <RocketLauncher> bazhang i have dual screen set up. i dont think i'm using compzi, how do i find out
[18:13] <om26er> can any1 tell me about eeebuntu ? does it install all the applications of the ubuntu
[18:13] <kmh27> is there a better forum for help with system administration?  I messed up my file system and raid config
[18:13] <bobbyd> hi
[18:13] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, well what's your make problem?
[18:13] <scampbell> RocketLauncher:  nvidia card?  r u using separate X screens or twin view. separate X will not allow you to drag accross.
[18:13] <bazhang> om26er, you have an eeepc?
[18:13] <switch10_> liveCD  sudo nautilus
[18:13] <switch10_> then find it
[18:13] <switch10_> again
[18:13] <dude> switch10_: don't sudo me! :)
[18:14] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, it also helps when someone is trying to help you when they know what you are trying to do
[18:14] <RocketLauncher> scampbell ati. i dont know what im using, i just went into display settings to do it.
[18:14] <switch10_> haha
[18:14] <bazhang> RocketLauncher, set appearances-->visual effects to none
[18:14] <Spliffster> who has experienced problems with the lates dbus update ?
[18:14] <bobbyd> does anyone know of an application nthat has the same tagging abilities as f-spot, but will efficiently deal with many thousands of images?
[18:14] <RocketLauncher> bazhang oh then it's off.
[18:14] <genii> switch10_: Don't recommend people to use sudo with graphical apps please
[18:14] <bdesham> hello all... any idea when firefox 3.5 will become the "main" firefox package under ubuntu?
[18:14] <bobbyd> I've found the file import is incredibly slow with f-spot
[18:14] <scampbell> RocketLauncher:  K, just offered the one I knew about :)
[18:14] <gartral> Spliffster: like what?
[18:14] <bazhang> bdesham, in the next release
[18:14] <liveCD> can i do  sudo gedit /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:14] <Spliffster> genii: sudo is better in gnome if /etc/sudoers is setup propper. gksu will not tolerate rules in /etc/sudoers ... just for the record
[18:14] <switch10_> liveCD  yup
[18:14] <Spad-XIII> liveCD:yes
[18:14] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: :D yeah, well I'm trying to build mesa and I get an error at the end after make. The errors are kinda long, private message?
[18:15] <Out_Cold> liveCD, gksu no sudo
[18:15] <sseiersen> um
[18:15] <liveCD> ok :D
[18:15] <bazhang> liveCD, no
[18:15] <bastidrazor> liveCD, gksudo instead of sudo
[18:15] <gartral> !firefox-3.5 | bdesham
[18:15] <mabus> how can I configure networkmanager from the commandline? it resets my wireless connection I configure manually due to my monitor recently breaking. alternatively, how can I stop networkmanager and then redhcp eth0 in one command soas not to lose connectivity and therefore ways of actually entering commands?
[18:15] <bazhang> switch10_, gksudo
[18:15] <sseiersen> Does Ubuntu 9.04 support dual processors?
[18:15] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, pastebin.com please
[18:15] <sseiersen> Cause both of mine aint showing up
[18:15] <Spliffster> mabus: check /etc/network/interfaces instead
[18:15] <bazhang> sseiersen, of course it does
[18:15] <Ti-dev> oh, ok..
[18:15] <bastidrazor> !gksudo > Spliffster
[18:15] <bdesham> bazhang: you mean the next major release of ubuntu?  thanks.  (I'm a relative newbie with linux package management)
[18:15] <sseiersen> hmm
[18:15] <Spliffster> mabus: this is one of the files network manager manages
[18:15] <genii> Spliffster: With the default setup, gksu is recommended
[18:16] <bobbyd> sseiersen: where are you looking? have you done cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:16] <Spad-XIII> !gksudo > Spad-XIII
[18:16] <CoolShorts> Hi all, I'm having a graphical problem with dual screen:  http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5526/visualdualerror.png
[18:16] <bazhang> bdesham, it is available now, called shiretoko when you install it
[18:16] <sseiersen> How do I see their status? Cause in System Monitor I only see one
[18:16] <cmcasper> boas, alguem me sabe dizer como posso criar passwords no webmin para os users ?
[18:16] <sseiersen> bobbyd, No I haven't
[18:16] <sseiersen> I will try that
[18:16] <liveCD> OK I DID IT :D   thank you everyone
[18:16] <bazhang> sseiersen, what kernel?
[18:16] <velcroshooz> is cpu scaling broken in 2.6.28-13? running inxi or other hardware spec apps with 2.6.28-11 showed processor clocked at 1400 mhz to 2700 mhz .. now in 2.6.28-13, it just shows 1400 mhz, what gives?
[18:16] <mfm> hi
[18:16] <bdesham> bazhang: I saw that, I was wondering when 3.5 would become the "default", branded version of firefox
[18:16] <bdesham> bazhang: thanks for the info
[18:16] <cmcasper> Anyone know how I can put passwords in users using webmin ?
[18:16] <bobbyd> sseiersen: I see one line in the graph per core I've got, if you can see them all under /proc/cpuinfo then they're all there
[18:17] <mfm> can you give me program msnger for gos
[18:17] <gartral> bdesham: in short, wait for Karmin Koala
[18:17] <sseiersen> 2.6.28-13-server
[18:17] <gartral> Karmic*
[18:17] <RocketLauncher> so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:17] <dAnon> is there any possible way of getting decent flash player performance on Ubuntu?
[18:17] <bdesham> gartral: gotcha.  thanks!
[18:17] <mfm> can you give me program msnger for gos
[18:18] <fwaokda> anyone know how I can "boost" my sound in ubuntu jaunty? It comes out just a little lower than windows did...
[18:18] <Spliffster> hey folk s... the last debus updated fsck'ed on my system. permission problems all over the place. any fix known ?
[18:18] <bobbyd> jAnon: flash player 10 works well for me, I think it's maybe still in beta
[18:18] <bazhang> mfm, Gos?
[18:18] <Spliffster> *dbus
[18:18] <bobbyd> dAnon: tat was for you :)
[18:18] <gartral> dAnon: yea, run your web broser with -j 2 flag and only on a dual-core machine
[18:18] <dakarn> install flash-nonfree instead of adobe-flashplayer
[18:18] <mfm> gos (windows google)\
[18:18] <sseiersen> :O
[18:18] <sseiersen> Only one shows
[18:18] <bazhang> mfm, what is gos
[18:18] <sseiersen> And there's two in the server
[18:18] <dAnon> fwaokda: just buy a decent sound card, it's not expensive
[18:19] <switch10_> fwaokda:  right click on the sound thing in the top right, open volume controls
[18:19] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:19] <fwaokda> dAnon, tsk tsk tsk
[18:19] <mfm> http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html
[18:19] <fwaokda> switch10_, thanks the "front" settings were a little low works perfect now! ;)
[18:19] <mfm> http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html
[18:20] <switch10_> fwaokda  sure thing
[18:20] <bazhang> mfm, that is not supported here; find their channel or forums for support
[18:20] <dAnon> fwaokda sound blaster live is an awesome sound card and it's very cheap integrated sound is worthless
[18:20] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m25c37b59
[18:20] <AJC_Z0> Running compiz on 9.04. When I lower the resolution of my display (from 1920x1080 to 1280x800) with System > Display, the windows which were too big to fit (e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird, acroread) seem to have disappeared from my display, even when I change the resolution back. It makes no difference if they were minimised first. How do I get them back?
[18:21] <switch10_> dAnon  for some people integrated sound is fine.  including me
[18:21] <fwaokda> dAnon, well i guess that's up to opinion (the integrated sound being worthless, that is) because integrated sound is fine for me
[18:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, did your ./configure come out clean?
[18:22] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[18:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i would like to see your ./configure pastebinn please
[18:23] <dAnon> integrated sound is worthless, period ;) It's always quiet, and always has poor quality
[18:23] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:23] <iPoRn> i have a problem for quite some time now, i can't use teamspeak because when i speak, the other people, can't hear me...but i can hear them, i've tried with pulseaudio, and alsa...what could be wrong? besides me ;x
[18:23] <fwaokda> !grub
[18:23] <devil> i am using usb to boot ubuntu...system restarts exactly 4 times before a successful boot
[18:24] <gartral> devil:
[18:24] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: yup, it did... http://pastebin.com/d3f94cd12
[18:25] <devil> gartral:yes?
[18:25] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:25] <gartral> devil: does it exhibit this behavior when booting from other media? (LiveCds, internal disk)
[18:25] <devil> gartral: yes using live cd it does exactly the same.
[18:26] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: could it be the "--with-drivers" operator?
[18:26] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, first problem "configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-drivers"
[18:26] <h0dges> hi, how do i alter the number of increments in the brightness popup in gnome?
[18:26] <Ti-dev> :D
[18:26] <Ti-dev> Jinx :D
[18:26] <Ti-dev> k I'll try again without it?
[18:26] <gartral> devil: do you have another computer handy to chat from?
[18:27] <devil> gartral: yes  i am chatting from anothr system
[18:27] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:27] <gartral> devil: ok, im going too pm you, this is a hardware problem, and outside the scope of #ubuntu
[18:28] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, where are your instructions for this?
[18:28] <Ti-dev> you mean the guide I'm following?
[18:28] <mabo> ciao
[18:29] <Out_Cold> yes Ti-dev
[18:29] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: http://www.mesa3d.org/install.html and http://www.mesa3d.org/autoconf.html for more info on the operators for ./configure and stuff
[18:29] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[18:29] <Spliffster> san someone give me a pointer how to reset dbus to it's initial configuration?
[18:29] <ttye0> Does anyone know of a way, with one command-line command, to get the number of new e-mails via alpine?
[18:30] <RocketLauncher> whenever i drag a window to my other screen, it doesn't drag all the way...... so i dont have compiz running. what else could be the problem?
[18:30] <grawity> ttye0: alpine -i might be useful
[18:30] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try just running ./configure
[18:30] <grawity> ttye0: are you using /var/mail, or a maildir, or IMAP?
[18:30] <Out_Cold> see if you get errors then
[18:30] <ttye0> grawity: IMAP
[18:30] <slothish> RocketLauncher: check your display settings
[18:31] <ttye0> I'm trying to make a awesomewm widget that will display this information
[18:31] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: when I do that, "make" works but i get the same errors at "make linux-dri-x86"
[18:31] <ttye0> *an
[18:31] <Spliffster> ttye0: it might be simple to query an imap server with netcat or telnet
[18:31] <grawity> ttye0: you could use another IMAP client.
[18:31] <RocketLauncher> slothish check it for what? should i have edited a config file like it suggested
[18:31] <ttye0> grawity: Hm
[18:31] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  yes, check the xorg config file
[18:32] <slothish> does it work without compiz?
[18:32]  * grawity wants to try writing a mail checker in Python after he noms his food.
[18:32] <ttye0> Thanks for your advice :)
[18:32] <Leon_Nardella> Anybody recommends a maintained GTK irc client?
[18:32] <trashbarg> Ti-dev: seems to be --with-dri-drivers instead of --with-drivers
[18:32] <grawity> Leon_Nardella: Xchat?
[18:33] <Spliffster> ttye0: netcat is what you are looking for if you want some ways to check the state of an imap mailbox.
[18:33] <Leon_Nardella> Graviton,
[18:33] <Leon_Nardella> grawity, maintained?
[18:33] <grawity> No idea. I use irssi. (That's a command-line one though)
[18:33] <ttye0> Spliffster: I'll see if I can pull it off that way. I've never tried to use nc like that
[18:33] <Ti-dev> trashbarg: oh hi :D, I'm sorry I'm not quite getting what you mean..
[18:33] <RocketLauncher> slothish http://codepad.org/r2lqVKJ5 I used a CODE pastebin by mistake but it still showed up..
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> hello i would like to ask, if ubuntu live cd, and live cds of linux in general. load anything on the pc's hdd, or they just run using ram?
[18:34] <Leon_Nardella> grawity, I'll probably switch to irssi myself. :\
[18:34] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: xchat is quiet nice. if you are sitting here ally day irssi is more pwoerfull though
[18:34] <slothish> AncientSocrates:  it runs entirely from RMA
[18:34] <slothish> RAM
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> ok thanks
[18:34] <Spad-XIII> AncientSocrates: live-cd's don't make any changes to your harddrives, unless you want them to
[18:34] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try ./configure with --with-dri-drivers yourdriverhere
[18:34] <AncientSocrates> just wanted to make sure
[18:35] <AncientSocrates> thanks
[18:35] <Spliffster> ttye0: good luck ... unless you must not use TLS it should be a piece of cake i guess
[18:35] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: oh, okay.
[18:35] <Leon_Nardella> Spliffster, I just don't feel comfortable using abandoned stuff when there're other choices.
[18:35] <ttye0> Spliffster: my netcat experience in that aspect is nada ;p
[18:36] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: it seems to work pretty well. you might try pidgin with irc, but its a horibly limited irc lcient (but maintained and GTK+)
[18:36] <ttye0> Spliffster: ssl and all
[18:36] <Spliffster> oh
[18:36] <bruenig> Leon_Nardella: irssi is the pro choice. Might as well.
[18:36] <Leon_Nardella> Spliffster, Yeah.. I've tried Pidgin already, but it lacks a lot of stuff you need on irc.
[18:36] <RocketLauncher> slothish here's a xorg paste from a better pastebin http://pastebin.com/dddaed41 i dont think the last one worked
[18:36] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  I'm sorry, I can't take a look at the config file now.  But, perhaps someone else can take a look at it for you.
[18:36] <RocketLauncher> oh
[18:37] <Spliffster> ttye0: i have never tried that ... you might be able to connect to IMAPS with nc but it probybly won't be worth the hassle. maybe you might use your scripting language of your choice ... python, perl, etc.
[18:37] <slothish> RocketLauncher:  Sorry, I'm going out in 10 mins, so I'm winding things up now.
[18:37] <RocketLauncher> ok
[18:37] <Spliffster> Leon_Nardella: on the other hand, xchat hast it all and works fine (is also quiet nicely integrated into the desktop [tray]) ... why would one not want to use it ?
[18:38] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: what do you think about "--with-x"? I'm not sure about that one though I put it..
[18:38] <Spad-XIII> is there a nice and easy way to configure/check those special laptop keys? the keys combined with an FN-key
[18:38] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try with
[18:38] <Spad-XIII> besides the default working volume/brightness controls
[18:38] <twig11> I'm looking at directions for setting  up a wireless card here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo and I see that they say to list the WEP key as 0-F instead of 0-9. I entered mine as 0-9 and I've had a lot of trouble with it. Could that be part of the problem?
[18:38] <mabo> ciao
[18:39] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: okeydokey
[18:39] <mabo> !list
[18:39] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:39] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, can't break a package that hasn't been built..
[18:39] <fwaokda> anyone else's mouse cursor "jitter" at random times?
[18:39] <Ti-dev> :D ahuh
[18:39] <twig11> !anyone
[18:39] <fwaokda> ?
[18:40] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: okay, configure worked and "DRI drivers:     mach64"
[18:40] <switch10_> fwaokda  is it a wireless mouse?
[18:40] <fwaokda> switch10_, yerp
[18:40] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, try make now
[18:40] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[18:40] <Ti-dev> compliance :D
[18:40] <switch10_> fwaokda  my bluetooth mouse does a little, but not my logitech
[18:41] <mazda01> anyone else use phpmyadmin in jaunty and got it working?
[18:41] <Spliffster> some questions answered, may I ask myself now? My dbus just foobar'ed on me and i want to reset it to factory settings. sudo dpkg-reconfigure dbus didn't hel, any suggestions ?
[18:41] <fwaokda> mine's a microsoft keyboard/mouse wireless combo... conspiracy? ;)
[18:41] <switch10_> fwaokda   I bet
[18:41] <Spad-XIII> mazda01: i tried it myself as well .. didn't get it working so far.. was fighting the network-connection problems first
[18:42] <Spliffster> awww fsck it ... i am going to #debian
[18:42] <twig11> Is it important to enter a WEP key as 0-F instead of 0-9 when setting up a wireless card? Here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo  they state that it's necessary to enter the key as 0-F but I'm not even sure how to do that?
[18:42] <twig11> how to do that.
[18:43] <dcherniv> twig11: dont use WEP
[18:43] <dakarn> !wap
[18:43] <dakarn> or wpa
[18:43] <dakarn> !wpa
[18:43] <Pici> !wep
[18:43] <twig11> dcherniv: not my choice, I'm not the network admin
[18:43] <Spad-XIII> twig11: i have no idea .. i'm using wpa instead of wep .. why do you use wep ?
[18:44] <Pici> twig11: I believe it just means that you can use hex values, you aren't limited to just 0-9
[18:44] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:44] <dcherniv> twig11: in case of WEP, 9 and F are different numbers
[18:44] <dcherniv> twig11: 9 is 9 in decimal F is 15 in decimal
[18:44] <twig11> Pici: dakarn: Please. I just posted a link to the place your sending me. I'm asking a question concerning their instructions.
[18:44] <dakarn> we recommended you use WPA instead of WEP
[18:44] <mazda01> Spad-XIII, it seems like jaunty has been a real regression!! there are so many problems! I can't even burn audio cd's from mp3's in Brasero!! Thats bogus. WHy would they include something that doesn't even work?
[18:44] <Pici> twig11: See my response afterwards.
[18:45] <dcherniv> twig11: and yes WEP keys are usually entered using HEX so 0-F is the right way
[18:45] <dakarn> and you can use any string you want
[18:45] <dcherniv> twig11: unless you're entering a wep passphrase
[18:45] <twig11> Pici: Thanks
[18:45] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: hehe, i haven't tried that at all .. ubuntu isn't on my main system (need games... :P )
[18:46] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:46] <Spad-XIII> hmm, wrong person to reply to :P
[18:46] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: you can't play games on linux?
[18:46] <Spad-XIII> mazda01: hehe, i haven't tried burning cd's at all .. ubuntu isn't on my main system (need games... :P )
[18:47] <twig11> dcherniv: no, I don't think so. it's a ten-digit key. How do you enter the key using hex?
[18:47] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: sure can .. but it's alot easier to install and play games on windows
[18:47] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: just curious. and i'm not trying to start an OS war, but what game(s)?
[18:47] <linduxed> if ive got music in /home/linduxed/music and ive got a user (other than linduxed) and I make a symlink to the music folder called /public/music (for instance), how do i make the contents of the symlink viewable for the other user?
[18:47] <trashbarg> linduxed, chmod(1)
[18:48] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: no go...:'(
[18:48] <dakarn> linduxed: a better way would be to put all music in /usr/share/*** and then symlink it :)
[18:48] <linduxed> trashbarg: yes but chmod what
[18:48] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: steam games (hl2, tf2, etc), anno 1404, wow, things like that .. i'm starting to use ubuntu as my work os .. should be better than windows for sure
[18:48] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, have you read the file's README?
[18:48] <frostbite7> hey how's everyone?
[18:48] <unop> linduxed, a symlink takes the permission of the target file .. make sure your music is owned by a group that both users are in.
[18:48] <dakarn> Spad-XIII: wow runs better on linux than windows (for me) :)
[18:48] <dcherniv> twig11: just enter it. FF:00:54:14:FE or something like that'
[18:49] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: you mean within ~/Mesa-7.4.4?
[18:49] <Out_Cold> yes
[18:49] <RocketLauncher> Could anyone else help me with my problem? Windows don't drag all the way onto my other screen.. Here's a pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/dddaed41
[18:49] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: Thats the prob, there isn't any :(
[18:49] <linduxed> unop: oh, thats right...
[18:49] <frostbite7> can someone please help me? i'm trying to install a mac theme but i keep getting error messages
[18:49] <Spad-XIII> dakarn: nice .. i know it should run on linux, but i've never played wow on linux .. haven't played it for a while
[18:49] <careta> hello
[18:49] <bobo> frostbite7: whats the error say?
[18:49] <Out_Cold> i'm not too sure then Ti-dev might be a crappy built source?
[18:49] <sseiersen> Is cairo dock in Ubuntu>
[18:49] <sseiersen> ?
[18:50] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, or you are missing strings or libraries
[18:50] <Pici> !info cairo-dock | sseiersen
[18:50] <bazhang> sseiersen, yes
[18:50] <dakarn> frostbite7: is it a gtk theme or a WM theme? i don't understand 'mac theme'
[18:50] <sseiersen> Thanks
[18:50] <frostbite7> it says that it isn't a valid theme
[18:50] <frostbite7> gtk theme
[18:50] <melinux> #ubuntu_it
[18:50] <careta> I have a clevo m746s with ubuntu 9.04 but my screen is at 800x600 instead of 1440x900. On screen properties it doesn't detect my screen... what can I do?
[18:50] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[18:50] <bobo> frostbite7: then, its not a valid theme. are you talking about when you drag the tar.gz file (or whatever it is) into the appearance window?
[18:51] <twig11> dcherniv: I don't know anything about hexadecimal numbers; if my key were "0123456789" for example would it make a problem with my card if it were just entered as plain numbers. If it's important, do you have a recommendation for a good place to learn how to use hex?
[18:51] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: first one = could be, second one, I thought so too and I recompiled "libdrm" which is a required set of libraries...
[18:51] <kowey> my computer has taken to hanging mysteriously (and more and more frequently) lately... [in particular, after I upgraded to 9.04, but a bit prior too]
[18:51] <dakarn> frostbite7: you should just unpkg it to /usr/share/themes
[18:51] <kowey> any troubleshooting tips?
[18:51] <nightrid3r> !skype
[18:51] <frostbite7> yes
[18:51] <h0dges> hey how do i sms in skype?
[18:51] <Pici> dakarn, frostbite7: If you are using gnome you only need to drag the archive over the theme window and it will install it.
[18:52] <dcherniv> twig11: first off where do you get that key? if it doesnt use any letters its still a valid hex, ie 11:22:33:44:55 or 1122334455 is still a valid hex number
[18:52] <frostbite7> okay cool thank you.
[18:52] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: hey there are 19 "README.*" files within ~/Mesa-7.4.4/docs :D
[18:52] <Eloff> I run Ubuntu in VritualBox, I installed the important updates today, including the kernel update, and now the display is buggered (everything is packed into a strip about 20px high) is there a way to boot up into a terminal (some kind of safe mode?) or with bare minimum settings/drivers/services ?
[18:52] <dakarn> frostbite7: it will have a subdirectory from the theme directory name that says gtk2.0 (if you manually do it -- i don't use gnome as a wm)
[18:52] <rootribal> #hackmeeting
[18:52] <bobo> ok well ive had that problem too, theres this thing in the repostiories thats called 'art manager' and it is really useful for themes. just sudo apt-get install art-manager to get it and its really easy to install themes with it
[18:52] <rootribal> #irc-hackmeeting
[18:52] <sseiersen> How do I tell apt-get to check another mirror?
[18:53] <sseiersen> Cause this one's stoped at 0%
[18:53] <frostbite7> okay thanks. appreciate it.
[18:53] <grawity> sseiersen: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:53] <frostbite7> later guys thanks for the help.
[18:53] <amnay> Hi
[18:53] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i'd maybe read some more..
[18:53] <bobo> yep
[18:53] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, see if they have an install
[18:53] <amnay> How do I mute the sound that comes from the box?
[18:53] <Out_Cold> *readme
[18:53] <bobo> amnay: are you talking about the annoying beep?
[18:53] <amnay> no
[18:53] <bobo> nvm then
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> How do I find out which version of X I got
[18:54] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: there's an install.html if that'd be of use..
[18:54] <Out_Cold> bobo, i'll learn how to shut off sysbeep
[18:54] <amnay> like the one that comes out of speakers
[18:54] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, that might help ya
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> A
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> SS
[18:54] <sseiersen> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.40)] << This is what I get.
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> HO
[18:54] <RocketLauncher> LE
[18:54] <FloodBot2> RocketLauncher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <sseiersen> ON Cairo-dock's install
[18:54] <bobo> amnay: im not sure what your talking about
[18:54] <bobo> amnay: gimme an example of when you hear it
[18:55] <th0r> RocketLauncher: less than 60 seconds from question to fit....new record
[18:55] <amnay> ia ; when I watch a movie , the sound comes from my speakers AND the box too
[18:55] <Out_Cold> amnay, type alsamixer in terminal and use the arrow keys to reduce sound.
[18:55] <bobo> by box, do you mean the computer?
[18:55] <RocketLauncher> th0r be quiet, wrong channel
[18:55] <amnay> bobo : yes
[18:55] <RocketLauncher> I haven't even been here before
[18:55] <bobo> ok
[18:56] <bobo> yeah listen to out_cold, i havent messed with sound if forever
[18:56] <bobo> in forever*
[18:56] <amnay> I want the sound to come only from speakers
[18:56] <bobo> amnay: opposed to what?
[18:56] <Out_Cold> lol
[18:56] <elementz> wie lasse ich mir die groupid einer bestimmten gruppe anzeigen?
[18:56] <sseiersen> Anyone know what the problem is for me? ON Cairo-dock's install I get this > 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.40)]
[18:56] <elementz> ^sry wrong channel
[18:56] <bazhang> elementz, #ubuntu-de for German
[18:56] <Pici> !guidelines > RocketLauncher
[18:56] <amnay> Oh thank you bobo  , That fixed it
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> Pici you're a little late there
[18:57] <amnay> I muted "front"
[18:57] <twig11> dcherniv: The key comes from the network administrator, and I'm using it on other machines, so I know it works. From what you're saying I guess it's good the way it is. I'm still poking around for clues as to why I have to cycle my interface and reenter the network information with iwconfig every time I reboot.
[18:57] <oskar-> elementz:  grep group /etc/group  ;-)
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> I stopped talking, Pici.
[18:57] <bobo> oh yeah, that does it. i didnt do anything though hahah, sometimes you just gotta tinker with stuff for a while
[18:57] <Out_Cold> RocketLauncher, it's never too late to warn people
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> It's never too late to repeat
[18:57] <RocketLauncher> "Wrong channel"
[18:57] <dcherniv> twig11: some wifi cards are quirky like that
[18:57] <elementz> oskar-: lol thx
[18:58] <RocketLauncher> I'll repeat it again when someone posts the guidelines five minutes later
[18:58] <dcherniv> twig11: whats the chipset you're using?
[18:58] <oskar-> RocketLauncher:  what it you problem?
[18:58] <bobo> RocketLauncher: what are you talking about?
[18:58] <RocketLauncher> oskar- Windows don't drag all the way to my secondary screen, if that's what you're talking about
[18:59] <bobo> RocketLauncher: You gotta go into compiz preferences
[18:59] <RocketLauncher> bobo I'm not running compiz
[18:59] <Hilikus> how do i edit rules in ufw?
[18:59] <bobo> into the cube thing and...hold on i gotta check it
[18:59] <bobo> then nevermind
[18:59] <bobo> what are you running then?
[18:59] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: docs/install.html is the same as the one online....trying just, "./configure --with-drivers=mach64"
[19:00] <RocketLauncher> bobo Ubuntu Jaunty? I'm not really running anything..
[19:00] <durt> !ufw > Hilikus
[19:00] <RocketLauncher> I just set display settings to stop mirroring, and that's how I've come to this.
[19:00] <bobo> like ok, im not talking about the operating system
[19:00] <bobo> !compiz
[19:00] <luis_> hola
[19:00] <superGear> metacity maybe
[19:00] <bobo> possibly
[19:00] <luis_> hola
[19:00] <bazhang> luis_, #ubuntu-es for espanol
[19:00] <edbian> luis_: !hit
[19:00] <superGear> say Hello
[19:00] <ducky__> luis_:  hola
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> bobo Whatever's the default? I think it could be metacity
[19:01] <oskar-> RocketLauncher:  can you drag the mouse from one screen to the other?
[19:01] <edbian> luis_: hi
[19:01] <luis_> hola como estan
[19:01] <DerrickMorgentha> test
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> oskar- yes
[19:01] <bobo> if you have to monitors yeah
[19:01] <nightrid3r> !hardware
[19:01] <luis_> de donde son
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> oskar- when i drag a window, the left side of the window doesn't go any further onto the second screen, and i'm stuck there
[19:01] <bazhang> luis_, english here
[19:01] <edbian> !es | luis
[19:01] <bazhang> luis_, /join #ubuntu-es
[19:01] <Hilikus_> durt i know all that. i have a limit rule in ubuntu that i need to modify to change the threshold
[19:01] <superGear> luis_, goto #ubuntu-es
[19:01] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, also look for troubleshooting or other build READMEs
[19:01] <bobo> RocketLauncher: are you talking about another monitor? or a nother workspace?
[19:01] <RocketLauncher> bobo monitor
[19:01] <bobo> ok
[19:02] <superGear> 2 monitors
[19:02] <superGear> ?
[19:02] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: you using twin view?
[19:02] <bobo> thats not my forte
[19:02] <superGear> nvidia?
[19:02] <twig11> dcherniv:13b1:000b Linksys WUSB11 v4.0 802.11b Adapter
[19:02] <shader> is it possible to convert i386 ubuntu to lpia ubuntu?
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I'm not sure. I just went into Display Settings, and since both screens were mirroring, I unselected "mirroring"..
[19:02] <fccf> RocketLauncher: I think you need to setup to use twinview ... rightnow you are running a virtual setup... which I have never heard of
[19:02] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: kk...hey I had downloaded a package from dri.freedesktop.org containing some mach64 drivers...will I need this?
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> fccf So how do i set that up
[19:02] <bazhang> !xrandr
[19:02] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: ati or nvidia card?
[19:02] <superGear> RocketLauncher, select twinview
[19:02] <edbian>  shader: O dpmt
[19:02] <RocketLauncher> legend2440 ati
[19:02] <superGear> if nvidia
[19:03] <om26er> plz any1 tell me which filesystem is fastest in ubuntu
[19:03] <RocketLauncher> superGear where?
[19:03] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: you should check your 2nd monitor setting and make sure 1) it's enabled 2) it uses a compatible resolution/refresh rate
[19:03] <superGear> ati i have no idea
[19:03] <shader> edbian: hmm?
[19:03] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: It's a drm driver...
[19:03]  * superGear uses nvida
[19:03] <edbian> shader: I don't think ubuntu supports architectures other than x86, amd_64, and powerpc
[19:03] <twig11> dcherniv: With the card plugged in, network-manager hangs and wifi-radar won't even start.
[19:03]  * superGear thinks ATI is evil
[19:03] <Ti-dev> okay, I *think*
[19:03] <dakarn> rocketlauncher: nvidia-settings
[19:03] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I changed the refresh rate on both monitors to 75, and it drags now...
[19:03] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:03] <moltenbobcat> all we need now is gnome to let you have different wallpapers on each machine
[19:04] <superGear> dakarn, that wouldn't do him any good with ati
[19:04] <shader> edbian: it does, but I don't know how to convert it after the fact. They have separate installs, and there is supposedly a linux-lpia source package, but I don't know how to install it
[19:04] <om26er> which filesystem is fastest
[19:04] <superGear> NTFS
[19:04] <superGear> j/k
[19:04] <bazhang> moltenbobcat, that should be possible with compiz #compiz for more details
[19:04] <fccf> om26er: ext4 would be fastest if it is run natively ... although you could expierence problems as it is very new
[19:04] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: http://hobbylobby.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/dual-monitors-in-ubuntu-xorgconf-driver-ati-card/
[19:04] <superGear> ext3/4
[19:04] <moltenbobcat> bazhang: awesome I had no idea
[19:05] <om26er> fccf: so which other filesystem
[19:05] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: so it works now?
[19:05] <edbian> shader: I don't know :(
[19:05] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: if you ask me, some geek accidentally copied the whole mesa3d.org site into /docs/ :D
[19:05] <superGear> ext3 is stable
[19:05] <dcherniv> twig11: did you use ndiswrapper to install driver?
[19:05] <dakarn> i didn't see the ATI -- all i saw was everyone saying nvidia
[19:05] <superGear> so is reiserfs and others
[19:05] <Amber_Johnson> hello, I have 2 8800GT nvidia graphics cards in SLI, I cant seem to get 8.10 or 9.04 to recognise my video cards. when I boot up the Live CD's they drop me to tty1 when X starts up. thanks in advanced for any help.
[19:05] <dcherniv> twig11: from googling this adapter appears quirky
[19:05] <shazam> how do I stop an application from printing error messages to the console?
[19:05] <RocketLauncher> dakarn yup. but does this mean I can't have one monitor on 85hz and the other one on 75?
[19:05] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, wrong bud... some geek copied all of /docs/ into the website ;)
[19:05] <Ali_nz> If I connect and login to my ubunutu box via VNC, why when I go to the physical machine do I get the login screen vs's seeing myself actually logged in?
[19:05] <shader> edbian: unfortunately, it is hard to attract attention in this room ;)
[19:05] <Ti-dev> haha, good one! :D
[19:05] <Ti-dev> yeah more like it :D
[19:05] <superGear> shazam, find the error and fix it or smthin
[19:06] <edbian> shader: Sounds to me like you're going to have to install some sort of image-linux-2.6.28-lpia package.  Which would in turn basically be installing a new OS
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: because vnc creates a new session when you connect
[19:06] <jrib> shader: redirect stderr to /dev/null
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> dakarn huh i just changed it to 85 and it works.. with different refresh rates.
[19:06] <jrib> arg
[19:06] <twig11> dcherniv: Yes I did. gogeta wrote me a simple script to automate the re-entering of all the information each time , but it still involves entering a sudo password in terminal, which is fine for me but not good for other users who "just want it to work."
[19:06] <jrib> shazam: redirect stderr to /dev/null
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: it's not like remote desktop or whatever it's called in windows
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> my bad, it couldn't apply
[19:06] <Ali_nz> Slart: how do I see if that remote session is still running?
[19:06] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: it was likely set on a defunct refresh rate
[19:06]  * jrib ponders banning everyone who does not have the first three letters of their nick unique
[19:06] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: congrats =)
[19:06] <Slart> Ali_nz: if you want that you can use x11vnc.. that uses the currently running session
[19:06] <RocketLauncher> dakarn How do I have both monitors on different refresh rates? Not that I can get used to 75 oh my other monitor, but still
[19:07] <Slart> Ali_nz: not sure really.. "who" perhaps
[19:07] <dcherniv> twig11: you can create an exception for this script in /etc/sudoers so it doesnt ask for a password
[19:07] <shader> jrib: but then you could only have 26^3 users in the #ubuntu channel ;)
[19:07] <Ali_nz> Slart: yea because that "session" was running a big job - I am loath to start it again if I dont have to
[19:07] <dcherniv> twig11: and then run the script on login: xterm -e "sudo scriptname"
[19:07] <fccf> Ali_nz: the difference is shared vs. noshared .. in the vnc configs
[19:07] <jrib> shader: you make a good point, I guess I won't afterall
[19:07] <dcherniv> shazam: ./example.pl > /dev/null 2>&1
[19:08] <vadi> Hi i am new to ubuntu can any one help me please?
[19:08] <twig11> jrib: twig11 finds two other nicks with same first three letters and begins biting fingernails.
[19:08] <erUSUL> !ask | vadi
[19:08] <edbian> vadi: What is your issue?
[19:09] <Ali_nz> fccf: righto - will take a look at that for next time
[19:09] <twig11> dcherniv: REALLY!
[19:09] <dcherniv> twig11: yea sure
[19:09] <shazam> thx
[19:09] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: lol i have no idea bro. are you using identical monitors?
[19:09] <vadi> Audio is not working in my desktop
[19:09] <shader> jrib: you wouldn't happen to know how to convert ubuntu from i386 to lpia after it's been installed, would you? It seems that there is a linux-lpia package, but I don't know how to install it
[19:09] <vadi> 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[19:09] <vadi> 	Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a004
[19:09] <vadi> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[19:09] <vadi> 	Memory at bfffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[19:09] <vadi> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:09] <FloodBot2> vadi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <twig11> dcherniv: can you coach me through it?
[19:09] <jrib> shazam: you can also just do: ./example 2> /dev/null   which is a little shorter
[19:09] <dakarn> !paste |vadi
[19:10] <vadi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218175/
[19:10] <jrib> shader: pretty sure that requires you to backup and reinstall
[19:10] <Ali_nz> i think my ubunutu box might be screwed
[19:10] <RocketLauncher> dakarn Oh nope.. One is a Compaq 15'' and the other is an AOC 17''. both CRTS
[19:10] <Ali_nz> it freezez occaisonally
[19:10] <edbian> vadi: Add the volume applet to your panel and increase the volume on all of the sliders.
[19:10] <superGear> evil CRT
[19:10] <shader> jrib: hmmm. which installer would you use?
[19:10] <superGear> time to move to LCD
[19:10] <RocketLauncher> CRTS = EYECANCER amirite
[19:10] <dcherniv> twig11: hang on
[19:10] <icedwater> Hey guys :) How do I change settings in GNOME so the desktop doesn't display contents of ~, but the contents of ~/Desktop instead?
[19:11] <dakarn> RocketLauncher: and those support 75hz? i figure they'd both be 60hz 1024/768 :)
[19:11] <RocketLauncher> dakarn the 17'' supports 85hz
[19:11] <superGear> my monitor supports 85 @ 1024x768 and it's a CRT
[19:11] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I think I have it working now. I don't know what the problem was, I pretty much just changed the refresh rates of both monitors to 75hz, then changed it back to 75hz on one monitor and 85 on the other.
[19:11] <vadi> edbian, Volume icon is allready in panel and i increased to 100
[19:12] <shader> how does one install a "source package"?
[19:12] <RocketLauncher> superGear I usually keep the 17'' on 1280x960.
[19:12] <edbian> vadi: Right click on the applet and click "Open Volume Control" then Hit the preferences button in the box that opens.  Add the PCM slider.  Turn that one up too.
[19:12] <dcherniv> twig11: add this line to /etc/sudoers ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/yourscript
[19:12] <vadi> When ever i shutdown i hear a noise from mother board
[19:12] <superGear> mine is @ 1280x1024 60
[19:12] <dakarn> Rocketlauncher: such is the nature of the beast. congrats on debugging x =)
[19:12] <RocketLauncher> I got one CRT for free as a donation.... the other was $100 with a PC that broke in a month
[19:12] <jrib> !source > shader
[19:12] <edbian> vadi: That's called a system beep.  It's completely unrelated hardware to your soundcard
[19:12] <superGear> old Sont monitor
[19:12] <superGear> Sony*
[19:13] <superGear> 15"
[19:13] <superGear> :/
[19:13] <RocketLauncher> dakarn I feel a beard growing.
[19:13] <RocketLauncher> I'm off, I'll report any problems
[19:13] <superGear> i am going to buy a new monitor soon
[19:13] <velcroshooz> Can anyone confirm, or deny cpu scaling working in 2.6.28-13 from the repos?
[19:13] <edbian> vadi: Do you have specific questions regarding the system beep (pc speaker) ??
[19:13] <superGear> using cpufreq?
[19:13] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  why should it not work?
[19:14] <vadi> No i thought its related with sound problem
[19:14] <edbian> velcroshooz: It depends on your processor as well.
[19:14] <Eloff> that's twice I've had to give up and restore from most recent backup after downloading the "important security updates" I'm disabling all updates this time.
[19:14] <velcroshooz> oskar-: because it isnt, and it was in 2.6.28-11 ootb
[19:14] <twig11> dcherniv: gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers ?
[19:14] <edbian> vadi: It might be but I doubt it.   It's a completely different driver
[19:14] <edbian> vadi: Did you add the PCM slider?
[19:14] <jrib> shader: I'm not sure about your lpia question.  I guess you need to grab the ubuntu-mobile installer right?
[19:14] <edbian> What are you using to test sound?
[19:15] <dcherniv> twig11: yea
[19:15] <Ti-dev> if you want to disable the system beep, "gksudo gedito /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf", add "blacklist pcspkr" to the end and that's it for "BEEP" each time you shutdown and/or reboot :D
[19:15] <Ti-dev> *gedit
[19:15] <edbian> vadi: See what Ti-dev said? ^
[19:15] <velcroshooz> edbian: processor supports it, was working in 2.6.28-11, no go in 2.6.28-13
[19:15] <fwaokda> is there anyway I can get my Ubuntu Jaunty 32bit to pick up my complete 4GiB of ram instead of just 3.2GiB ?
[19:15] <iceroot> fwaokda: PAE
[19:16] <sseiersen> !join
[19:16] <vadi> I have SAA7134 (alsa mixer) and VIA VIA VT1708 (OSS MIXER)
[19:16] <edbian> velcroshooz: mmm.  That's odd. IDK.  Use the older kernel! :P
[19:16] <sseiersen> hmm
[19:16] <iceroot> fwaokda: your mainboard must support PAE, then you can use 4GB Ram (for one process)
[19:16] <Ti-dev> fwaokda: I've heard that only 64bit version, ubuntu will detect more than so much of ram...
[19:16] <sseiersen> How do you join the project?
[19:16] <jrib> shader: here you go: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/9.04/release/
[19:16] <vadi> PCM slider is in VT1708 and its enabled
[19:16] <twig11> dcherniv: can I make the script a hidden file so it doesn't clutter my home folder?
[19:17] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  and the module for frequency changing with the processor type is loaded?
[19:17] <iceroot> Ti-dev: no, ubuntu 32bit with PAE can also handle more then 4GB, but not more then 4GB for one process
[19:17] <jrib> sseiersen: you want to help with development?
[19:17] <edbian> fwaokda: The cut off is 3.5 GB.  A 32 bit OS can only handle 3.5 GB of ram.  to use more you need a 64 bit OS
[19:17] <sseiersen> I can test systems
[19:17] <sseiersen> More like hardware
[19:17] <jrib> !develop | sseiersen
[19:17] <sseiersen> :O
[19:17] <edbian> fwaokda: See what iceroot said ^ ^ as well
[19:17] <sseiersen> Thanks
[19:17] <diddy> Is Bastille not available for Ubuntu 9.04 yet?
[19:17] <Ti-dev> oh? coo...coz I asked this q on the forum coz I'm building a PC with 4GiB in the near future...
[19:17] <Slart> !contribute
[19:17] <velcroshooz> oskar-: do you know the name of it, is there only one?
[19:17] <dcherniv> twig11: i'd put the script in /bin
[19:18] <dcherniv> twig11: if its not just for you but other users
[19:18] <edbian> dcherniv: not /usr/local/bin ??
[19:18] <Amber_Johnson> !sli
[19:18] <fwaokda> edbian, ahh... what other benefits come with a 64bit OS other than that?
[19:18] <Pici> diddy: I see it in the repos.
[19:18] <vadi> You there edbian
[19:18] <fwaokda> edbian, I was told not to download it because it has more problems
[19:18] <Pici> !info bastille | diddy
[19:18] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  which type of processor is it? i will have a look
[19:18] <edbian> fwaokda: Supposedly increased speed.  It depends on if the person who wrote the program you
[19:18] <iceroot> Ti-dev: fwaokda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:18] <twig11> dcherniv: okay I'll do that. and I was given instructions to run it as ./path to script. Is that correct?
[19:19] <Slart> edbian, fwaokda: 64bit had some problems before.. these days most of them are fixed or worked around
[19:19] <Amber_Johnson> !hide porn from my husband
[19:19] <edbian> fwaokda: program you're using programmed it to work better on 64 bit system.  I don't know all the detail though.  I heard google does.
[19:19] <velcroshooz> oskar-: amd am2+ kuma 7750 BE
[19:19] <Pici> Amber_Johnson: Please don't abuse the bot.
[19:19] <edbian> vadi: Yes?
[19:19] <shane2peru_> hmm, my logs havn't logged anything recently, why is that?
[19:19] <dcherniv> edbian: yea /usr/local/bin would be an appropriate place but i dont think ubuntu puts /usr/local/bin in the PATH
[19:19] <Spad-XIII> is it possible to have both the wired and the wireless connection to have the same static ip address and then use either one instead of 'both'? or should i just unplug the cable and setup the wireless with a static ip address? (i'm using network manager)
[19:19] <diddy> Pici: I installed it and it gave me an error message: Basistille doesn't work on debian5
[19:19] <iceroot> shane2peru_: not using syslogd or ksyslogd?
[19:19] <shane2peru_> since June 24?
[19:19] <edbian> dcherniv: O, I think you're right.
[19:19] <Pici> diddy: On Ubuntu?
[19:19] <dcherniv> twig11: depending on where you put it. if its in /bin then /bin/script
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: Yes Ubuntu
[19:20] <shane2peru_> iceroot: I don't think I didn't anything to stop them
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: Weird error message, right?
[19:20] <fwaokda> iceroot, Slart, edbian, thanks ;)
[19:20] <Slart> edbian, fwaokda: the only think I've run into that didn't work was a proprietary web plugin that I needed to do my taxes online..
[19:20] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  look, if "lsmod" lists "powernow-k8", else load it
[19:20] <edbian> fwaokda: NP
[19:20] <diddy> Pici: It uses the debian packages it seems.
[19:20] <velcroshooz> oskar-: will do one sec
[19:20] <iceroot> Spad-XIII: no each device has its own ip
[19:20] <dcherniv> twig11: dont forget sudo, even if you create an exception to not require a password you still should run it with sudo, ie sudo /bin/script
[19:21] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: hey guess what? some mesa-dri packages are available via synaptic...I'll try that :D
[19:21] <diddy> Try to install it and you will set. sudo aptitude basitlle; bastille -x; and you will see the error
[19:21] <Pici> diddy: Take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bastille/+bug/373375 and the page that the fist comment links to.
[19:21] <iceroot> Spad-XIII: i a LAN,WAN and so on an IP is unique
[19:21] <twig11> dcherniv: sudoers says it must be edited using visudo as root. and "save" is greyed out in the gui of gedit.
[19:21] <bruenig> twig11: sudo visudo
[19:21] <Spad-XIII> iceroot: is it possible to set a priority of some sort in network manager ? that it would use wireless if possible and fall back on wired ?
[19:21] <amikrop> Hello. I am on Ubuntu 9.04, I run Pidgin 2.5.5 and Pidgin-Audacious 2.0.0 doesn't work. It just doesn't change my status.
[19:21] <edbian> twig11: YES!  Only edit sudoers with visudo!!  It gets messed up otherwise!
[19:22] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, i was gonna ask you if you checked the repos.. but i was distracted..
[19:22] <dcherniv> twig11: yea visudo, doesnt really matter. sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[19:22] <amikrop> Any help, plase?
[19:22] <shane2peru_> iceroot: seems that sysklogd is not installed, shouldn't that be installed by default?
[19:22] <edbian> dcherniv: Are you sure you can do that??
[19:22] <legend2440> velcroshooz: right click top panel choose add to panel >CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor  do you have that?
[19:22] <Slart> !gksudo | dcherniv, twig11
[19:22] <bruenig> dcherniv: using gedit on /etc/sudoers is a bad idea. Visudo has syntax checking to make sure you don't completely mess up your sudo permissions settings.
[19:22] <iceroot> shane2peru_: i dont know what using, debian lenny is using syslogd, if i am correct ubuntu is using ksyslogd but dont know exactly
[19:22] <edbian> dcherniv: twig11: And BTW it should be gksu gedit
[19:22] <bruenig> if you mess them up, there is no getting them back, because it would require that you use sudo and well...
[19:22] <amikrop> I am on Ubuntu 9.04, I run Pidgin 2.5.5 and Pidgin-Audacious 2.0.0 doesn't work. It just doesn't change my status.
[19:22] <shader> jrib: ok, now that I've downloaded and auto built the linux-lpia package using apt-get -b source linux-lpia, what's next?
[19:23] <shane2peru_> iceroot: right, I didn't find syslogd in the repos, only sysklogd
[19:23] <velcroshooz> legend2440: cant scale if scaling isnt enabled, monitor will show me nothing.
[19:23] <balloooza> amikrop: you do not need to say it multiple times
[19:23] <dcherniv> bruenig: not if your $EDITOR is nano, which seems to be the case with ubuntu
[19:23] <twig11> dcherniv: bruenig: I'm not sure how to use visudo, so I might want a little help when I try this. Here goes.
[19:23] <amikrop> balloooza: excuse me
[19:23] <dcherniv> edbian: yea you're right gksudo
[19:23] <iceroot> shane2peru_: ps aux | grep log   is there anything like sysklogd or so?
[19:23] <velcroshooz> oskar-: module not found after modprobe, lsmod didnt list it, i dont understand heh
[19:24] <bruenig> twig11: it is just vim
[19:24] <edbian> dcherniv: twig11: I STRONGLY suggest you use visudo and not gedit
[19:24] <amikrop> balloooza: any help, by the way? :-)
[19:24] <Spad-XIII> Slart: i managed to get my wireless working by installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty .. after installing that, and a reboot, everything worked fine .. just no wpa2 though
[19:24] <legend2440> velcroshooz: in terminal   cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies   any results?
[19:24] <Slart> Spad-XIII: huh? think you're talking to the wrong person
[19:24] <bruenig> edbian++
[19:24] <shane2peru> iceroot: hmm, seems there is syslogd, gnome-keyring atop and klogd
[19:24] <balloooza> amikrop: is this audacious po=ligin a thing that says what song you are listening to by any chance?
[19:24] <dor_> Can anyone help with an ALSA/OSS problem on Intrepid?
[19:24] <legend2440> velcroshooz: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies   any results?
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: yes
[19:25] <iceroot> shane2peru: then there should be logs in /var/log/
[19:25] <Spad-XIII> Slart: you helped me a few days ago, right? at least, in the logs it says Slart :)
[19:25] <RocketLauncher> How do I extend my panels onto my other MONITOR?
[19:25] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  is it compiled in? i don't know. "dmesg | grep powernow-k8"
[19:25] <shane2peru> what is odd is that when I opened up the system logs, via the system file, they were all old
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: it is a pidgin plugin, btw, not an audacious one
[19:25] <shane2peru> iceroot: ^^^^
[19:25] <balloooza> amikrop: and you are listening to the music on audacious, and not rythmbox (right, kinda obvious)
[19:25] <Slart> Spad-XIII: oh.. sounds like me then... well... you're welcome, I guess =)
[19:25] <amikrop> balloooza: yes
[19:25] <shane2peru> iceroot: there are system logs, however in the gui log viewer, they was nothing dated after June 24
[19:25] <iceroot> shane2peru: please no counters-trike-kiddie-smileys :)
[19:26] <rnavarro> Hi all, for some reason I don't have any devices being created in /dev/mapper, any ideas how to rescan and create these devices?
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: ERROR: 'DB5.0' is not a supported operating system.
[19:26] <twig11> dcherniv: sudo visudo /etc/sudoers returns a list of options for visudo.
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: It doesn't work
[19:26] <Pici> diddy: Yes, thats what that bug says.
[19:26] <shane2peru> iceroot: ??? I forgot to add your nick to that text above
[19:26] <dcherniv> twig11: sudo visudo
[19:26] <diddy> Pici: Yes, and they didn't provide a way to fix it.
[19:26] <legend2440> RocketLauncher: they may know in channel   #ati   if you dont get answer here
[19:26] <edbian> twig11: Read the options.  It's telling you you'
[19:26] <fwaokda> iceroot, Slart, edbian, Think I'm gonna download 64bit verison - but - it says its ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso  Does it matter that I have a Intel processor?
[19:26] <shane2peru> iceroot: I tried to use ^ apparently that is a smiley of some sort?
[19:27] <velcroshooz> oskar-: output is here - http://pastebin.com/m2fc798e2
[19:27] <RocketLauncher> legend2440 alright
[19:27] <edbian> twig11: Read the options.  It's telling you that you're starting visudo wrong..
[19:27] <Slart> fwaokda: amd64 works on both intel and amd.. it's just a name
[19:27] <Slart> !amd64
[19:27] <fwaokda> Slart, k thanks
[19:27] <velcroshooz> legend2440: 2700000 1400000
[19:27] <edbian> fwaokda: The architecture is actually named "amd_64" because AMD patented it.  A 64 bit intel processor is an amd_64 architecture
[19:27] <Pici> diddy: Well, the first reply is from a Canonical employee, whose name I recognize so I don't know what else I can tell you.
[19:27] <balloooza> amikrop: I have not used this before, so I guess I can't help much, but a good way to figure out exactly what the problem is, is to go to the website for the project (google it will usualy do it) and then read how to set it up, and see where things start going wrong, if it is a pidgen PLUGIN, then you might need to change the settings in pigden
[19:27] <edbian> fwaokda: It does not matter
[19:28] <fwaokda> edbian, haha sucks for intel ... if they care just kinda a "haha pwnt" thing i suppose :)
[19:28] <amikrop> balloooza: I have set Pidgin to let this plugin to update my status but it doesn't do so. Anyway, I will look at their website, thank you. :)
[19:28] <dor_> how can i change the default behaviour of the system to output sound using OSS instead of ALSA?
[19:28] <twig11> dcherniv: Advice?  anthony@ubuntu-machine:~$ sudo visudo /etc/sudoers
[19:28] <twig11> usage: visudo [-c] [-q] [-s] [-V] [-f sudoers]
[19:29] <edbian> fwaokda: Intel actually tried to make a 64 bit architecture before AMD called "Itanium" It tanked cause it ran 32 bit apps so poorly
[19:29] <fwaokda> edbian, ouch
[19:29] <Pici> twig11: You don't need to specify the filename, just: sudo visudo
[19:29] <edbian> fwaokda: Yeah so they blew it! :)
[19:29] <balloooza> amikrop: just had an idea, if you go into pidgen, and then go to status (a drop down menu) is there an option for "my song"
[19:29] <dcherniv> twig11: the syntax is sudo visudo
[19:29] <rgz_> fwaokda: pwnt?
[19:29] <dcherniv> twig11: thats it
[19:29] <diddy> Pici: You mean Kees Cook? I don't understand his comment. What options is he talking about there?
[19:29] <legend2440> velcroshooz: i think this guide will help   http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/16/cpu-scaling-ubuntu-battery-life-and-you-how-to-scale-your-cpu/
[19:29] <twig11> Pici: Okay, so visudo is just for editing sudoers?
[19:30] <bruenig> twig11: tis
[19:30] <bruenig> visudo is really just a wrapper for an editor
[19:30] <bruenig> makes sure that you can't quit the editor until syntax is good
[19:30] <amikrop> balloooza: no
[19:30] <fwaokda> rgz_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwnt
[19:30] <amikrop> balloooza: Here is what I found, though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin-audacious/+bug/217949
[19:30] <diddy> Pici: He recommends: Bastille is not recommended for Ubuntu.
[19:30] <diddy> Pici: I will not use it then.
[19:30] <Pici> diddy: Indeed. Okay
[19:30] <twig11> dcherniv: okay, in visudo I'm a little lost. if its like vi, I know I'll need help because I get confused in vi.
[19:31] <fwaokda> rgz_, i don't usually use the term but since I was referring to cpu company's it was my attempt at humor :(
[19:31] <twig11> dcherniv: like how do I get ready to add a line?
[19:31] <Pici> twig11: visudo on Ubuntu will use whatever $EDITOR is set to, which is nano by default I beleive.
[19:31] <diddy> Pici: Is there another hardening tools that _is_ recommended for Ubuntu?
[19:31] <dcherniv> twig11: ESC and press i
[19:31] <velcroshooz> legend2440: this was working out of the box with the stock kernel i dont understand how a slight kernel update from synaptic is going to completely break cpu scaling where i have to reset it up from scratch
[19:31] <Alan> has a load of broken updates been pushed to the repository?  i'm getting stuff like "libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3) but 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2 is installed."
[19:31] <twig11> Pici: dcherniv: okay, let me try.
[19:31] <edbian> twig11: It's more like nano than VI really.  If that helps ;)
[19:32] <Pici> diddy: I don't know enough about hardening Linux to provide an adequite answer for you, sorry.
[19:32] <balloooza> amikrop: read the second to last post in the launchpad
[19:32] <dcherniv> edbian: is it nano or vi?
[19:32] <Slart> Alan: what repositories are you using? 3rd party? proposed?
[19:32] <Alan> i've run apt-get update, and that hasn't helped...
[19:32] <fccf> Alan: do you have the updates repository enabled?
[19:32] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  the code seems to be running and have recognized your cpu. is it perhaps an application incompatibility? somewhere in /proc or /sys are files, with you can set cpu frequency settings manually, if you write special arguments to them  (like "echo xy > cpu_freq"). you could take a careful look in there to see, if it is generally working. then you could run the controlling app manually and see, if errors occur
[19:32] <snewp> anyone here knows how to install snap fonts ?
[19:33] <Alan> fccf: gah, how the hell did that get disabled? :| thanks!
[19:33] <Slart> snewp: what are "snap" fonts?
[19:33] <amikrop> balloooza: Yeah, I did so. I guess I won't get into such trouble, I 'll wait for an official fix. Thanks, though. :-)
[19:33] <alexnet> How do I give 2 owners to a file?
[19:33] <twig11> edbian: no it doesn't really. I don't know nano either.
[19:33] <diddy> Pici: NP, thx anyway.
[19:33] <Slart> alexnet: you can't
[19:33] <dcherniv> alexnet: you cant
[19:33] <snewp> Slart: type of fonts though .. .pcf kind of fonts
[19:33] <alexnet> how do i achieve a similar result?
[19:34] <velcroshooz> oskar-: thanks for the help, i will just revert back to 2.6.28-11 i think, this is nonsense
[19:34] <balloooza> alevine: you can be in the same group as the owning group
[19:34] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: Okay I'm installing all the seemingly necessary stuff via synaptic...any idea on how to enable hardware rendering? That *was* my objective...currently it's "software rasterizer"
[19:34] <twig11> dcherniv: ESC>i just indents the first line of sudoers
[19:34] <grawity> alexnet: add both users to a single group?
[19:34] <alexnet> thanks
[19:34] <grawity> twig11: on nano, you just press Ctrl-X to exit.
[19:34] <oskar-> velcroshooz:  ok, good luck
[19:34] <dcherniv> alexnet: to achieve a same effect give the file 770 permissions, create a group, add these soon to be owners to that group and change group ownership of the file, chmod user:commongroup file
[19:34] <twig11> dcherniv: on the upside, backspace puts it back :-/
[19:34] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, sorry bud haven't ever tried before
[19:35] <twig11> grawity: I'm using visudo
[19:35] <grawity> twig11: visudo just calls your default editor.
[19:35] <Ti-dev> velcroshooz: what happened to the 2.6.30 kernel?
[19:35] <sivel> does anyone know where I could get some php5.3 packages from jaunty?  is there a PPA for that?
[19:35] <grawity> twig11: does it say "GNU nano" on the first line?
[19:35] <Sly> My question is, It seems programs run as a normal user can not open ports below 1024??? Correct me if i am wrong. is there a way to allow any user to do this and not just su.
[19:35] <Slart> snewp: ah... wikipedia sayd bitmap fonts... just never heard of it.. thanks (I have no idea btw)
[19:35] <dcherniv> twig11: hm i dunno, i should cause vi to go into insert mode
[19:35] <Ti-dev> Out_Cold: oh kk, I'll just dig around...thanks for all the help man...
[19:36] <snewp> Slart: np
[19:36] <balloooza> sivel: I think php is in the default repos, need no ppa
[19:36] <Out_Cold> Ti-dev, hope you figure it out
[19:36] <sivel> balloooza: for PHP 5.2.x it is.  I am looking for 5.3
[19:36] <Ti-dev> thanks :D
[19:36] <twig11> grawity: *slaps forehead* yeah it does. But I don't know how to use nano either.
[19:36] <theilluminatic> Ok, so I installed the most recent updates this morning, and after restarting, Volume Control doesn't open.  This is a problem especially because my computer has this annoying thing where whenever you boot it up, the volume is reset to zero, and is muted.  Is there a way to make it so I can open Volume Control again, and/or set the default volume to max and not muted?
[19:36] <twig11> dcherniv: it's using nano
[19:37] <grawity> twig11: nano is the simplest one.
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: oh, well then its easy just go the bottom of the file with down arrow or pg down
[19:37] <grawity> twig11: just use arrow keys, and type. Use Ctrl-X to exit.
[19:37] <Slart> theilluminatic: what happens if you start gnome-volume-control from a terminal?
[19:37] <balloooza> sivel: do you need this for compatibility, because if it is not in the repositorys, it is most likely not stable enough, or widly used yet (basicly, I could go on, and tell you the dissadvantages of compiling)
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: and then paste this dcherniv@media-center:~$ cd /usr/share/locale
[19:37] <dcherniv> twig11: err ignore that ^
[19:37] <balloooza> sivel: I could help you if you need it
[19:38] <twig11> dcherniv: grawity: Yeah, now I just discovered that at last. duh!
[19:38] <dcherniv> twig11: paste this ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/yourscriptname
[19:38] <sivel> balloooza: I need to test compatibility with a product
[19:38] <sivel> balloooza: I installed the php 5.3 from dotdeb but it seems to be broken
[19:38] <silidan> pavucontrol gives out warnings:  gtk warning, failed to set text from markup due to error, what can i do about it?
[19:39] <twig11> dcherniv: to clarify, the script is written with just the commands separated by && no introductory stuff. is that definitely all that's needed for the system to know it's executable?
[19:39] <balloooza> sivel: that is exactly one of the things I would have said, somtimes those are maintaned less, you know there is a less noisy server channel called #ubuntu-server
[19:39] <theilluminatic> 'what happens if you start gnome-volume-control from a terminal?' I'm in xubuntu, and it says that the gnome one isn't installed, should I install it?
[19:39] <Amber_Johnson> twig11,  you can add gtksudo in your script to make things run as root, like this :gtksudo firefox, will run firefox as root
[19:39] <sivel> balloooza: I will head over there
[19:39] <sivel> thanks
[19:39] <dcherniv> twig11: does it have #!/bin/bash as a first line?
[19:39] <dcherniv> twig11: you also have to make it executable with sudo chmod +x /bin/scriptname
[19:40] <twig11> dcherniv: no it doesn't
[19:40] <Slart> theilluminatic: you can just put my nickname on the start of your message.. no need to repeat my question (although it did look kind of nice and easy to follow)... let me check something.. I'm not sure if xfce has it's own volume control app
[19:41] <Titan8990> twig11, without a shebang you have to specify which interpreter to use like: bash script.sh
[19:41] <Titan8990> twig11, or a python example: python script.py
[19:41] <dcherniv> twig11: add #!/bin/bash as first line, actually can you pastebin the script?
[19:41] <dcherniv> !pastebin | twig11
[19:41] <n0gear> whats the command to see who are logged in to my computer?
[19:42] <grawity> n0gear: 'w', 'who', 'finger'
[19:42] <icedwater> Hey guys :) How do I change settings in GNOME so the desktop doesn't display contents of ~, but the contents of ~/Desktop instead?
[19:42] <n0gear> grawity: ty
[19:43] <twig11> dcherniv: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5bfc0bee
[19:43] <alexnet> Continuing my group permissions issue earlier.... i created a group called "apacheandfriends" and then add the www-data user as well as myself to the group
[19:43] <erUSUL> icedwater: edit the variable in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:43] <balloooza> icedwater: I belive the desktop has a gconf somwhere, and ubuntu-tweak has a setting for that
[19:43] <gartral> icedwater: the default is too display the contents of /home/*/Desktop
[19:43] <showers> rythm box isn't making a sound
[19:43] <Apollo2366> Is there a way to have a certain sound play whenever the GDM Login screen starts up, and then have another sound played upon success or failure of login?
[19:43] <grawity> icedwater: I'm sure it's in gconf somewhere... let me check.
[19:44] <alexnet> How should my Chown look?  sudo chown www-data:apacheandfriends /file/ -R   ???
[19:44] <icedwater> erUSUL, balloooza, gartral, grawity: Thanks.
[19:44] <showers> I would like to play my mp3 files from the windows partition
[19:44] <balloooza> grawity: lol, that is what I said (I just went looking too)
[19:44] <grawity> icedwater: ah, /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir
[19:44] <icedwater> balloooza: I wouldn't be able to check ubuntu-tweak though. Not just yet. Will keep that in mind.
[19:44] <showers> it is easy enought to navigate over there and open the files
[19:44] <geirha> icedwater: /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home in gconf-editor
[19:44] <showers> but then the silence begins
[19:44] <Slart> theilluminatic: ok.. try starting xfce4-mixer instead.. see if you get an error message
[19:45] <icedwater> grawity: Hm, OK. So I uncheck that one?
[19:45] <Pici> !enter
[19:45] <alexnet> How do I assign file permissions to a GROUP ?
[19:45] <grawity> icedwater: if you want ~, it should be off. if you want ~/Desktop, it should be on,.
[19:45] <icedwater> Is it possible to set it to another folder?
[19:45] <JamesHoldsworth> Hi everyone, this isn't a question pertaining to linux itself, but a tutorial about linux. I found it a while ago, cleaned out my internet history, and I cant remember where to find it. I've been searching google for days. It was a really long ebook, not quite a tutorial, it had over 40 chapters, and described hardware, and the origins of binary and ascii and all that too
[19:45] <alexnet> !groups
[19:46] <alexnet> !group
[19:46] <geirha> alexnet: chmod g+w file, will give write acces to the group, chmod g-w file will remove it etc...
[19:46] <dcherniv> twig11: alright put http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7e98a17c
[19:46] <theilluminatic> slart: thanks, that opened it and so I was able to set the volume to normal, do you know how I can make it default to being on?
[19:46] <alexnet> geirha chmod groupname+w /myfile/ ?
[19:46] <JamesHoldsworth> i know it's a little vague, I'm trying to think of more specific things to mention, like when I was looking for it I was looking for a terminal tutorial... I remember they showed a picture of a mobo, and it was really old lol. It was a grey drawing lol. lol.
[19:46] <showers> How do I download codecs for rythm player please
[19:46] <Slart> theilluminatic: nope.. no idea about that.. sorry
[19:47] <theilluminatic> ok, thanks anyway
[19:47] <Apollo2366> Is there any way to configure the sound to play at the login screen?
[19:47] <Nan0fire> i have a problem with my hard disk. i did something wrong with Gparted and it has something to do with gpt/mbr partitioning tables (i think) and also with the ext4
[19:47] <geirha> alexnet: No, first you need to run chgrp, to set the group as groupowner of the file
[19:47] <Pici> JamesHoldsworth: The linux terminal? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:47] <geirha> alexnet: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:47] <Nan0fire> anyone care to help?
[19:47] <alexnet> thanks geirha
[19:47] <JamesHoldsworth> Nonono
[19:47] <RocketLauncher> I'm having this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/16894
[19:47] <RocketLauncher> any solutions as of NOW?
[19:47] <JamesHoldsworth> it wasn't a ubuntu specific one. it was more of an overall linux tutoral
[19:47] <grawity> icedwater: I found ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs - open it in a text editor, fix, then logout and login
[19:47] <Pici> JamesHoldsworth: Maybe ##linux could help better then
[19:48] <JamesHoldsworth> ok lol thank you
[19:48] <Le_Cador> bsr
[19:48] <sirakim> hi
[19:48] <Nan0fire> i messed up somewhere along the way with gparted and the problem is that i can only see a PART of my drive, 30gbs, when my drive is 120 gbs
[19:49] <Nan0fire> anyone has any idea ?
[19:49] <Slart> RocketLauncher: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:50] <john_decuir> good day all
[19:50] <sirakim> i search the room speaking french
[19:50] <Slart> !fr | sirakim
[19:50] <RocketLauncher> Slart JAUNTY
[19:50] <twig11> dcherniv: did that.
[19:50] <devill> Nan0fire: what did u do exactly
[19:50] <Nan0fire> i messed up my harddisk and now i can't see the whole disk, except in the livcd of jaunty
[19:51] <Slart> RocketLauncher: ouch.. a bug from hoary coming to life like in a bad horror movie
[19:51] <dcherniv> twig11: cool did you finish sudoers part?
[19:51] <Nan0fire> i don't know i did a couple of things many times
[19:51] <twig11> dcherniv: no sir/ma'm
[19:51] <dcherniv> twig11: hm, well save my version of the script in /bin/fixwifi
[19:51] <Nan0fire> devill: i did have ext4 partitions and i erased them with parted magic
[19:51] <RocketLauncher> Slart I coul always try a different WM besides Gnome, if I know for sure it will work :D
[19:52] <twig11> dcherniv: I saved it in /bin/connect
[19:52] <dcherniv> twig11: then put this line in /etc/sudoers: ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/fixwifi
[19:52] <dcherniv> twig11: /bin/connect is probably not a good idea
[19:52] <devill> Nan0fire: parted magc? then?
[19:52] <grawity> dcherniv: um, you forgot the username before this line.
[19:53] <twig11> dcherniv: why not? I'll change it but why?
[19:53] <dcherniv> twig11: as there might be a script that exists with that name in ubuntu repos
[19:54] <geirha> dcherniv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[19:54] <devill> Nan0fire:during live session are u able to see ur whole hdd?
[19:54] <Slart> RocketLauncher: I would suggest opening that bug again.. attach a screenshot of your own and information on ubuntu version, flavour and so on
[19:54] <Nan0fire> devill i saw only a part of my drive there, not the whole thing (i think because parted magic couldnt percieve the ext4) so i tried to do something new and used on the part i could see the gpt partitioning table
[19:54] <dcherniv> grawity: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/bin/fixwifi
[19:54] <neoteny> here's a silly question:  on the volume control widget you scroll up to increase the volume if your mouse is in one location but when you mouse is in the other location you scroll down to increase the volume.  am i the only one who thinks they should be in sync?
[19:54] <dcherniv> grawity: is that right?
[19:54] <RocketLauncher> Slart that bug dates to 2005 holy
[19:54] <Slart> RocketLauncher: I can't verify the bug since I just have one monitor attached..
[19:54] <RocketLauncher> Slart and I will do that
[19:55] <Cube_> hey, how can i get a tablet to work with ubuntu!?
[19:55] <Neo_Selen> can someone helpy me with a dual boot issue im having?
[19:55] <Nan0fire> devill: in the livecd sessions of jjaunty yes, in parted magic, i only see what i see in windows (half of my disk!)
[19:55] <Slart> RocketLauncher: indeed it does.. but it's been playing peekaboo every now and then.
[19:55] <geirha> dcherniv: That will give all users access to run that command as root, except that you're missing a space after NOPASSWD:
[19:55] <Nan0fire> do you understand the prob or should i tell more?
[19:56] <dcherniv> geirha: yea thats the idea
[19:56] <RoyL> hi
[19:56] <twig11> dcherniv: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :/bin/fixwifi like that?
[19:56] <Cube_> anybody?
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart damnit I just.. "scrot -m"
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart and it takes a screenshot perfectly
[19:56] <dcherniv> twig11: ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/fixwifi
[19:56] <RocketLauncher> Slart Only thing is I got to join this screenshot together with the one of the other half.
[19:57] <Radtoo> neoteny: In sync with...? If you want to suggest a feature that sounds more like a gnome bugtracker thing than ubuntu specifically.
[19:57] <Nan0fire> devill: any ideas?
[19:57] <Slart> RocketLauncher: ah.. but that's another app..  but still.. if that works for you.. great =)
[19:57] <devill> Nan0fire: use fdisk ..
[19:57] <Nan0fire> i tried already
[19:57] <devill> Nan0fire: what do u see
[19:58] <Nan0fire> i see all i guess.. i deleted all partitions with it, and i made a new ntfs with it ( with help of an irc buddy)
[19:58] <albertico> has anyone had any issues with the intel 4965 wireless on ubuntu 9.04??
[19:58] <devill> Nan0fire:u can recover the partition table ..if it hasnt lost already...
[19:59] <twig11> dcherniv: okay how do I save and quit visudo?
[19:59] <neoteny> Radtoo, it might be gnome.  when you click on the icon and it pulls up the slider when your mouse is on the icon scrolling up increases the volume.  however if you move your mouse up to the slider you scroll down to increase the volume. seems to the scrolling should be consistent.
[19:59] <dcherniv> twig11: ctrl+x
[19:59] <jbk`> twig11: same as quitting + saving in vim
[19:59] <RoyL> hi
[19:59] <twig11> dcherniv: and I added a comment before the line: #Allows all users to run the following script as root. I can do that right?
[20:00] <neoteny> Radtoo, right now i'm in the information gathering phase :)
[20:00] <dcherniv> twig11: yea thats fine
[20:00] <Nan0fire> devill i erased, repartition-tabled, partitoined everyting a couple of times so i don't think there's a way back :S
[20:00] <alexnet> Im having a permissions related problem. I have created a group that contains my username and apache as members.  I then recursively gave permissions to a folder for root:mygroup.  The members of my group cannot write to teh folder (the chmod settings are okay).  Is there a way to see if maybe i messed up the group creation?
[20:00] <Lenaud01> virtual ox seems have issue with usb
[20:00] <twig11> dcherniv: save modified buffer y ?
[20:00] <RoyL> Any1 free to help me with an Ubuntu Firefox keyboard issue?  BTW - I am new to IRC
[20:00] <Lenaud01> anyone else have this issue?
[20:00] <twig11> dcherniv: after messing a few things up I'm ultra cautious.
[20:01] <Pici> Lenaud01: The ose (open source edition) of virtualbox that comes with Ubuntu does not support usb.
[20:01] <yurik> Is 32bit of 64bit best?
[20:01] <sivel> I have seen reference to an ubuntu experimental repository.  is anyone aware of such a repo?
[20:01] <RocketLauncher> I can take a screenshot of my other monitor using scrot -m, but I don't want to have to take two screenshots and put them together. Any better solutions?
[20:01] <dcherniv> twig11: yes
[20:01] <devil> Nan0fire:dnt lose hope .theres always a chance...have u used testdisk?.
[20:01] <Lenaud01> Pici I got the .deb from sun
[20:01] <RoyL> anyone free to help me?
[20:01] <dcherniv> twig11: save it
[20:01] <RocketLauncher> else what's a quick way to join two images together like that
[20:01] <Nan0fire> devill, no
[20:01] <Pici> Lenaud01: Then I would ask in #vbox then
[20:01] <Lenaud01> thanks
[20:02] <Radtoo> neoteny: ah, I'd see if this also happens for me but I've only got wmii and kde4 installed at the moment. but yes, this sounds like a bug.
[20:02] <gartral> yurik: 32 if your gaming, 64 if your doing high math
[20:02] <yurik> gartral: for a server ?
[20:02] <devil> its gud..use that..itll analyze first using quick search
[20:02] <twig11> dcherniv: I'm not sure what to do at the next option. File name to write: /etc/sudoers.tmp
[20:02] <firepants> anyone know where i can get the medibuntu gpg key?
[20:03] <ivan_> hey, for some reason my ubuntu keeps starting up in text and i dont know how to switch it to the graphics mode
[20:03] <Nan0fire> devil, changed name to devil?
[20:03] <RoyL> Any Ubuntu experts here?  I need some help
[20:03] <devil> Nan0fire: yups..
[20:03] <Pici> !ask | RoyL
[20:03] <Radtoo> yurik: 64bit is most useful if you have a lot of ram or do maths intensive processing (video encoding, actual math solving, ...). otherwise 32bit is slightly less problematic and you dont usually miss out on anything
[20:03] <neoteny> RoyL, maybe us mere non experts can help.
[20:04] <devil> ivan_: use startx
[20:04] <Nan0fire> devil ok so  i need to down an burn " testdisk" ?
[20:04] <dcherniv> twig11: hm i dunno, never used visudo. maybe someone else can clarify why it wants to save to a .tmp filke
[20:04] <grawity> dcherniv: because visudo does that to make sure you didn't made any syntax errors.
[20:04] <majikman> how do i use dpkg to list available packages to install?
[20:04] <devil> Nan0fire:no just install it on ur machine
[20:04] <ivan_> thanks
[20:04] <vega> RoyL: probably not, this is only official ubuntu support channel..
[20:04] <Pici> twig11: Thats normal, just save and quit and it will do its thing.
[20:04] <Nan0fire> you mean on my windows?
[20:04] <RoyL> I have a prob where the keybrd stops working in Jaunty but only when using Firefox 3.5
[20:05] <grawity> dcherniv: if the new sudoers file is correct, it is copied to /etc/sudoers. Otherwise it warns you and reopens the same temp file.
[20:05] <click_here> I installed ubuntu on my eee pc, and I have no sound
[20:05] <fccf> RoyL: needless to say with almost fifteen hundred ... there is alot of expertise
[20:05] <twig11> Pici: I know, but how?
[20:05] <ivan_> do you know why it would just randomly start in text mode?
[20:05] <yurik> Radtoo: it will be a web server/irc server, just _servers_ basically... what do u suggest?
[20:05] <Pici> twig11: ctrl-o to save (don't change the filename) and then ctrl-x
[20:05] <ojii> hi all, i installed firefox 3.5 using apt-get install firefox-3.5 but i still have firefox-3.0 installed and that's the one that opens if i go applications->internet->firefox
[20:05] <ojii> how can i upgrade to 3.5?
[20:05] <Pici> !ff35 | read this ojii
[20:05] <Radtoo> yurik: 32bit will be fine, I'm sure. you'll probably save a little time every now and then as compared to 64 bit where you occasionally solve problems. and performance won't be impacted by 32bit.
[20:05] <OttifantSir> A networking question: I have a DIR-655 and a DI-524. I have a cable-connection I wish to share with the neighbours, but at the moment, with only the DIR-655 providing wireless, they're getting between 12 and 36 % signalstrength. Any ide on how to enable the DI-524 as an extender? Preferrably keeping Gigabit-connectivity between my server and media-PC (Probably need a switch for that, right?)
[20:05] <fccf> majikman: that would be a long list.. have you tried aptitude
[20:06] <ojii> shiretoko? wtf
[20:06] <devil> Nan0fire:it works on both the os..
[20:06] <Pici> ojii: Please mind your language here.
[20:06] <majikman> fccf, no, but i like being able to grep and do other text manipulations on my output
[20:06] <devil> Nan0fire:google it..
[20:06] <click_here> I have no sound on my ubuntu eee pc install.
[20:06] <majikman> so 'm not really concerned about long lists
[20:06] <yurik> Radtoo: thank you!
[20:06] <yurik> !32bit
[20:06] <Radtoo> yurik: no problem.
[20:07] <twig11> Pici: ctrl>o gives me a system beep. Did I mess something up if I accidentally hit ctrl>c trying to copy out of terminal with visudo running?
[20:07] <DVA5912> Is the game 20,000 leagues under the sea open source? Id like to modify its some.
[20:07] <alexnet> Problem: Jim is in group MyGroup.  A folder named /folder/ with permissions root:MyGroup rwxrwxr-x exists.  Jim cannot copy files to /folder/ over scp.  If permissions are changed to jim:MyGroup, Jim can now copy files to /folder/.  How do I make it so that all members of MyGroup can always copy files to /folder/ ?
[20:07] <Pici> twig11: What do you see on your screen right now? Are you still in nano?
[20:07] <RoyL> I have a prob where the keybrd stops working in Jaunty but only when using Firefox 3.5. Any ideas?
[20:07] <Nan0fire> devil i'll try that then! does it recognize ext4?
[20:08] <ashii> Kawaiiiiiiiiii, i have a question, if i install samba on ubuntu server and through a windows box write too a ntfs partition, will it succed?.. the ntfs partition is on the samba server
[20:08] <ashii> ubuntu server
[20:08] <twig11> Pici: File Name to Write: /etc/sudoers.tmp   (new line)           ^G Get Help         ^T To Files         M-M Mac Format      M-P Prepend  (new line)  ^C Cancel           M-D DOS Format      M-A Append          M-B Backup File
[20:08] <DVA5912> Where are downloaded games stored?
[20:08] <Pici> twig11: press enter.
[20:08] <wildc4rd> playing alien arena, how do I get it on screen one, not screen 2?
[20:08] <twig11> Pici: done
[20:09] <twig11> :-)
[20:09] <tanath> i see nothing in System->Hardware drivers
[20:09] <devil> Nan0fire: i hope so..chk the site..
[20:09] <Pici> twig11: If nano is still open, press ctrl-x, otherwise you're done.
[20:09] <u_> What are some creative things to do with an idle linux box?
[20:09] <tanath> anyone know why that might be?
[20:09] <Paavi2_0> DVA5912: what are you downloading them with?
[20:09] <tanath> u_, run folding@home?
[20:09] <DVA5912> Paavi2_0: Add/Remove programs
[20:09] <sez> my mousepad stopped working on my eee just yesterday; I belive it could be after I updated a few things. any tips on how to fix this problem?
[20:09] <Nan0fire> devil, hope it works, im installing hackingtosh right now
[20:10] <twig11> Pici: dcherniv: Now I've edited sudoers, and I still want to make the script run at startup. still with me?
[20:10] <Paavi2_0> DVA5912: you know that it installs them too? try looking under Programs > Games
[20:10] <OttifantSir> I have a DIR-655 and a DI-524. I have a cable-connection I wish to share with the neighbours, but at the moment, with only the DIR-655 providing wireless, they're getting between 12 and 36 % signalstrength. Any ide on how to enable the DI-524 as an extender? Preferrably keeping Gigabit-connectivity between my server and media-PC (Probably need a switch for that, right?)
[20:11] <Pici> twig11: If you don't mind me asking, what does this script do?
[20:11] <DVA5912> Paavi2_0: i know that :) im looking for the source code of the game itself
[20:11] <fccf> magikman: have you looked at man dpkg .... there are alot of options
[20:11] <Paavi2_0> DVA5912: i think apt just installs the binaries...
[20:12] <tanath> why does System->Hardware drivers show nothing?
[20:12] <RoyL> I have a prob where the keybrd stops working in Jaunty but only when using Firefox 3.5. Any ideas? Sorry to rpt but not getting any help so far :-( Losing will to live
[20:12] <twig11> Pici: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38fa0231
[20:12] <DVA5912> Paavi2_0: ok. well that would be a feutile attempt then. Anyway a google search gave me the source code. Im making some adjustments!
[20:13] <devil> Nan0fire: okkk..u also have option of gpart to recover the partition table. but i prefer testdisk
[20:13] <twig11> Pici: BAD BAD wireless card that hates all gui utilities
[20:13] <DVA5912> what the sh** its a python game i didint think it was
[20:13] <tanath> RoyL, it stop working in all apps, or just when fx3.5 is running?
[20:13] <fccf> magikman: start with dpkg --list
[20:13] <RocketLauncher> So I have scrot. I'm dual screening.. I use 'scrot -m' and I take a screenshot of the half I wanted. The site says I'm supposed to join them together.. Is there a quick way to do this?
[20:13] <Paavi2_0> DVA5912: i recommend you to read the apt documentation
[20:13] <twig11> !language <DVA5912
[20:13] <RocketLauncher> i have to join them together side by side..
[20:13] <tanath> RoyL, er, in fx3.5
[20:14] <devil> Royl: i cant say why..try updating the browser..or arther use anothr browser ..
[20:14] <DVA5912> how can you call language when i could have said shoot all you saw was sh**
[20:14] <tanath> RoyL, if it only doesn't work in fx3.5, then it's the app
[20:14] <RoyL> tanath: yes
[20:14] <theTroy> did anyone use TrueCrypt? It does not accept 63 symbol password on entering to DECRYPT, but does accept it to ENCRYPT. Now I have freaking 40GB of my data without being able to decrypt it, even knowing the password. any help will be greatly appreciated
[20:14] <tanath> RoyL, yes what?
[20:14] <Pici> twig11: Well... if you wanted it to run at boot then we didn't need to put it in the sudoers file.
[20:14]  * Dekko wonders how do I install SMP kernel? I am now running 2.6.28-13-generic on a core duo 2.4 Ghz machine....
[20:14] <Dekko> And I am using Jaunty Jackalope.
[20:14] <RoyL> yes all apps after using ffox3.5
[20:15] <erUSUL> !generic | Dekko
[20:15] <Pici> Dekko: The generic kernel supports smp just fine.
[20:15] <Pici> !boot > twig11
[20:15] <Dekko> Pici: It does....?? Can I see this somewhere?
[20:15] <twig11> Pici: the script is required even when the computer wakes from sleep. The card goes down over ANYTHING.
[20:15] <Dekko> My conky just shows one CPU :)
[20:15] <Dekko> says its 1.4 Ghz :-P
[20:15] <Dekko> or something like that :)
[20:15] <erUSUL> Dekko: less /proc/cpuinfo
[20:15] <tanath> RoyL, check bug reports? file bug?
[20:16] <Dekko> erusul: thanks
[20:16] <RocketLauncher> i have to join them together side by side..
[20:16] <RocketLauncher> oh whoops
[20:16] <RoyL> Sorry. The kbrd stops in all apps after using ff3.5 for a few mins
[20:16] <Pici> Dekko: The link from ubottu above should explain it.
[20:16] <Dekko> Pici: will check it, thanks.
[20:16] <Pici> twig11: Then you'd have to put it in some of the udev scripts, I'm not sure where those are.
[20:16] <tanath> why does System->Hardware drivers show nothing?
[20:17]  * Dekko also wonders if someone has any experience with how to get Conky to understand I want the information displayed on the monitor to the RIGHT (I have two monitors under Twinview - extended desktop)...... :)
[20:17] <Spad-XIII> mazda01: did you get phpmyadmin working ?
[20:18] <tanath> Dekko, i believe you can set a compiz rule to have it always run there..
[20:18] <Pici> Dekko: Please don't use actions for your questions.
[20:18] <Dekko> Pici: Okay :)
[20:19]  * RocketLauncher asks a question
[20:19] <Dekko> tanath: Hmmm where could I find out about this? :)
[20:19] <twig11> dcherniv: you told me what to do to run that script at startup didn't you? I failed to copy it and now it's scrolled out of reach. Can you give it now that I'm ready?
[20:19] <tanath> Dekko, in ccsm. i'm poking around now trying to find it
[20:19] <Dekko> tanath: Thank you for your kind assistance!!
[20:20] <alexnet> How come the users that belong to mygroup can't create files?
[20:20] <RocketLauncher> I tried scrot -s, and selected both screens... it only takes a screenshot of the right monitor. scrot -m does the same. Apparently I'm supposed to take a screenshot of both monitors, then join them together. Is there a quick way to do this or do I have to do it in Gimp, which I seriously don't have much knowledge of.
[20:20] <erUSUL> alexnet: where
[20:20] <twig11> How do I create a link to a file using the CLI
[20:20] <dcherniv> twig11: no i actually didnt.
[20:20] <dcherniv> twig11: you done with sudoer
[20:20] <twig11> dcherniv: yes
[20:20] <dcherniv> twig11: logout log back in
[20:20] <erUSUL> twig11: ln -s filename linkname
[20:20] <fccf> Dekko: when starting a program  like firefox .... use firefox :1 to use the second screen ... conky :1 ??
[20:20] <dcherniv> twig11: and see if it asks for a password
[20:20] <twig11> dcherniv: okay bye.
[20:20] <click_here> i hit a keyboard shortcut that zoomed in ALOT and I didn't know how to go back to normal
[20:21] <dcherniv> twig11: ie once you log back in do sudo /bin/fixwifi on the terminal
[20:21] <click_here> what is that shortcut?
[20:21] <alexnet> erUSUL, i createda  group called apacheandfriends, i added www-data and myself to that group.. but neither www-data nor I can create files.  the folder is called /folder/ and has rwxrwxr-x root:apacheandfriends
[20:22] <Dekko> fccf: will check it out thanks
[20:22] <ivze> Greetings, everyone, reading! Have anybody seen a bug of such kind: Atheros chip on a laptop stops working after XP installation?
[20:22] <stroyan> click_here: Try <ctrl> and mouse wheel.
[20:22] <erUSUL> alexnet: what error you get when you try ?
[20:22] <click_here> stroyan, i'm on an eee pc
[20:22] <fwaokda> uhh something strange is going on...
[20:23] <fwaokda> My power goes out for awhile and I boot up my PC and now my Zune is recognized in ubuntu...
[20:23] <alexnet> erUSUL PErmission denied
[20:23] <Spad-XIII> click_here: in firefox? ctrl+0 goes back to normal zoom level ?
[20:23] <theTroy> click_here use both of your fingers on the trackpad to get mousewheel action
[20:23] <alexnet> erUSUL here is ls -l drwxrwxr-x 7 root apacheandfriends 4096 2009-07-14 12:20 folder
[20:23] <click_here> Spad-XIII, this was a ubuntu thing, not firefox
[20:23] <theTroy> click_here  1 finger - left click, 2 fingers - middle click, 2 finders + drag = mousewheel, 3 fingers = rightclick
[20:23]  * fccf thinks provided he only has 2 fingers
[20:23] <Spad-XIII> click_here: cool
[20:23] <Pici> RocketLauncher: You probably can use imagemagick's montage, take a look at some of the examples on http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/montage/ to see how to use it.
[20:24] <alexnet> erUSUL if i type "groups myname" i see apacheandfriends in the list of groups
[20:24] <click_here> theTroy, I don't think I have that installed
[20:24] <theTroy> click_here
[20:24] <theTroy> its defaukt
[20:24] <diegotiller> onde e o chat em portugues?
[20:24] <theTroy> default*. EEE PC 901 here
[20:24] <Pici> !pt | diegotiller
[20:24] <Dekko> fccf: no matter what I do the conky window ends up on the LEFT monitor (the wrong one)
[20:24] <ANTRat> alexnet: have you logged out out / logged back in since adding yourself to the group?
[20:25] <RocketLauncher> Pici scrot -m doesn't seem to work as it turns out. I have to use scrot -s to take a screenshot of my other monitor, and it might come short like 1024x767 or something, not the exact size...
[20:25] <diegotiller> eu uso biglinux
[20:25] <click_here> theTroy, originally had xp on this, then installed ubuntu 904 ha
[20:25] <diegotiller> ande e o chat biglinux?
[20:25] <alexnet> ANTRat, no, i have not. I'm SSH'd in do i just need to disconnect or do i need to reboot the Ubuntu box?
[20:25] <diegotiller> portugues????????
[20:25] <Nan0fire> ok, i'm easier to type now
[20:25] <alexnet> !pt | diegotiller
[20:25] <click_here> also does anyone know of a shortcut to open terminal?
[20:25] <theTroy> click_here its ubuntu thing, not the EEEPC thing, I turned many EEEPCs into linux religion
[20:26] <ANTRat> alexnet: just disconnect / reconnect
[20:26] <theTroy> click_here go to the options and just drag it onto the panel
[20:26] <theTroy> the icon*
[20:26] <Nan0fire> klos how does that person know that it IS compatible, he doesn't say
[20:26] <click_here> theTroy, drag what icon?
[20:27] <theTroy> click_here go to the place where the terminal is, in the accesoires, and drag it onto panel
[20:27] <theTroy> sorry for typos, just tired here
[20:27] <erUSUL> alexnet: well i dunno what's happening it should "just work"
[20:27] <alexnet> ANTRat sweet, now *I* have permissions.  To get www-data permissions do i need to disconnect www-data as well? (by restarting apache)
[20:27] <theTroy> or wait, are you using the netbook interface? and not standard desktop?
[20:27] <click_here> theTroy, no standard desktop, but I want a keyboard shortcut
[20:28] <ANTRat> alexnet: yeah
[20:28] <alexnet> erUSUL, maybe its cause im connecting remotely
[20:28] <click_here> theTroy, not desktop
[20:28] <Nan0fire> klos i think iDeneb is compat. but it gave the still waiting for root device eroor, but that's more the problem of the order of the drives/partitions
[20:28] <vadi> Please help me i have problem with Audio
[20:28] <tanath> Dekko, Place Windows > Fixed viewport might do it
[20:28] <guest_> rius
[20:28] <fccf> Dekko: I'm setting up for a test ... give me a few min
[20:28] <theTroy> click_here ahh keyboard shortcut, then go to preferences, and keyboard shortcuts, should be able to set it up there, I am sorry, do not know any more than that
[20:28] <erUSUL> alexnet: it should not matter
[20:28] <erUSUL> alexnet: i did a quick test here and it worked...
[20:29] <Dekko> tanath and fccf: Thank you!!! :) I REALLY appreciate your help.
[20:29] <Dreki> Click_here u can set a hotkey, i set mine to ctrl+T
[20:29] <click_here> theTroy, yeah i got that far, i just can't figure out what i need to type under "command:"
[20:29] <alexnet> erUSUL, well im not sure if ive done other things wrong.. im fairly new to ubuntu... but i was juggling permissions between me:mygroup, root:mygroup, www-data:mygroup... and only the owner ever actually had permissions
[20:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[20:29] <click_here> Dreki, how would you put that under "command:"
[20:29] <leaf-sheep> Woooooot!
[20:30] <stroyan> click_here: You can use <alt>F2 to run a command.  That command can be gnome-terminal if you really want a shell.  The command for a keyboard short cut would be gnome-terminal.
[20:30] <leaf-sheep> I'm riding the wave!
[20:30] <alexnet> funtimes
[20:30] <ANTRat> wee
[20:30] <Nan0fire> what it this?
[20:30] <leaf-sheep> Oh snap!  A shark!
[20:30] <Nan0fire> happy invasion?
[20:30] <alexnet> erUSUL, well im not sure if ive done other things wrong.. im fairly new to ubuntu... but i was juggling permissions between me:mygroup, root:mygroup, www-data:mygroup... and only the owner ever actually had permissions
[20:30] <leaf-sheep> !netsplit | Nan0fire
[20:30] <Dreki> netsplit...
[20:30] <fwaokda> Welcome Back everyone
[20:30] <erUSUL> alexnet: weird...
[20:30] <alexnet> erUSUL, and i created the group mygroup while SSH'd into the box
[20:30] <Nan0fire> ubottu thanks
[20:30] <vadi> Please help me my audio is not working , http://paste.ubuntu.com/218253/
[20:30] <click_here> how do i turn off the info about people joining the chat room?
[20:31] <alexnet> erUSUL and it wasnt until i disconencted just now and reconnected that the group took effect
[20:31] <erUSUL> alexnet: you are sure folder has w permissions for group ?
[20:31] <RocketLauncher> scrot -m doesn't take a screenshot of my right monitor, it only takes a screenshot of my left...........................
[20:31] <erUSUL> alexnet: well that's normal if you created the group in the session
[20:31] <fwaokda> anyone know how I can backup my windows installation within VBOX so I don't have to reinstall after my reformat in a couple mins?
[20:31] <erUSUL> alexnet: you have to log in again afaik
[20:31] <click_here> RocketLauncher, do you have them reversed in orientation in the back of your GPU?
[20:31] <twig11> dcherniv: Okay I'm back. It doesn't work. I pulled the commands out of the script, created a new file on my desktop, ran it from terminal, and that's how I got back online.
[20:31] <alexnet> erUSUL, ah is there anything else like that?
[20:32] <RocketLauncher> click_here what do you mean
[20:32] <twig11> dcherniv: I'll try to get you some output for pastebin
[20:32] <clearzen> do I have to add a % sign in front of a user i wish to grant sudo permissions in the /etc/sudoers file?
[20:32] <stroyan> click_here: Which irc client are you using?
[20:32] <click_here> stroyan, xchat
[20:32] <Pici> clearzen: You should only have to add them to the admin group if you want to grant them sudo access. No need to touch /etc/sudoers
[20:32] <click_here> RocketLauncher, as in you have 2 DVI ports on the back of your GPU
[20:32] <erUSUL> alexnet: no; after the new group/memebership takes effect you should be able to create files in a folder your group(s) have w permision for
[20:32] <RocketLauncher> oh click_here i'm thinking it could be reversed.. i had problems with identifying monitors in windows sometimes.. my left would be 2 and my right would be 1
[20:33] <vadi> I have problem with Audio , http://paste.ubuntu.com/218253/
[20:33] <RocketLauncher> click_here so maybe it is
[20:33] <click_here> RocketLauncher, possibly you could flip which monitor is plugged where
[20:33] <clearzen> Pici: is admin in /etc/groups?
[20:33] <karma> how do i find out the last updates that have been applied in ubuntu
[20:33] <Pici> clearzen: yes.
[20:33] <RocketLauncher> click_here hold on let me check
[20:33] <alexnet> erUSUL, okay thank you
[20:33] <Pici> clearzen: The admin group is in /etc/sudoers by default.
[20:33] <clearzen> Pici: Ok, Thanks for the info
[20:33] <Falc> no need to edit files for that
[20:33] <RocketLauncher> click_here my right monitor is on the left, in the dvi port. my left monitor is on the right, in the vga port.. is that what you're talking about?
[20:33] <alexnet> thanks ANTRat too
[20:34] <Falc> just 'sudo adduser <username> admin'
[20:34] <click_here> RocketLauncher, try switching
[20:34] <TIT> Всем доброго вечера.
[20:34] <RocketLauncher> click_here ok
[20:34] <Pici> !ru | TIT
[20:34] <clearzen> Falc: that makes it a easy thanks
[20:34] <twig11> dcherniv: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d13d5921
[20:35] <twig11> Pici: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d13d5921
[20:35] <Billy_S> how can i turn off the joining an leave messages in irssi?
[20:35] <sirakim> comment y aller
[20:35] <sirakim> aidez moi
[20:35] <stroyan> click_here: If  you right button click on a channel tab you can choose Settings->"Hide Join/Part Messages"
[20:35] <erUSUL> !fr | sirakim
[20:35] <Pici> !quietirssi | Billy_S
[20:35] <Billy_S> thank you, stroyan :)
[20:36] <RocketLauncher> click_here okay. In display preferences do i have to switch the monitor's places since it was reversed before?
[20:36] <Dvyjones> Looks like my own simulator is working :)
[20:36] <click_here> stroyan, thanks
[20:36] <dcherniv> twig11: run it with sudo
[20:36] <click_here> RocketLauncher, is this in ubuntu?
[20:37] <vadi> i am new to ubuntu i have problem with audio
[20:37] <RocketLauncher> click_here yup..............
[20:37] <Billy_S> @ubottu, thanks, it works :)
[20:37] <RocketLauncher> click_here if you were mistaken, it was still reversed anyways and I've been wanting to change them before
[20:37] <click_here> RocketLauncher, well i don't know for sure, i'm just brainstorming with you
[20:37] <stroyan> click_here, Billy_S: It is also possible to use the Settings->Advanced->Text Events menu to set different messages or no message for specific events such as Join.
[20:37] <RocketLauncher> click_here scrot still doesn't do it right btw
[20:37] <theTroy> what kernel does 9.10 use?
[20:37] <beto> how can i share my internet connection?
[20:37] <leaf-sheep> RocketLauncher: How about regular scrot?
[20:38] <twig11> dcherniv: if you'll remember, I'm trying to set it up so other users can run the script without sudo. Reduce it to a click for the people who just want it to work, you know?
[20:38] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | beto
[20:38] <RocketLauncher> leaf-sheep what do you mean
[20:38] <RocketLauncher> leaf-sheep oh
[20:38] <leaf-sheep> RocketLauncher: Don't use the -m parameter.
[20:38] <RocketLauncher> leaf-sheep nope doesnt work
[20:38] <twig11> dcherniv: wasn't that the reason me modified sudoers?
[20:38] <twig11> dcherniv: we
[20:39] <jdudeski> is there any way to stop my onboard i845 video from freezing up X in 9.04? I just did a fresh install and I'm 99% sure it's the i845 onboard video that's causing X to freeze at the login prompt
[20:39] <dcherniv> twig11: thats just how sudo works, you still run it with sudo but it wont ask for password anymore
[20:39] <erUSUL> !ntel
[20:39] <erUSUL> !intel
[20:41] <twig11> dcherniv: Okay. so there's no way to create a link that requires only a click by a desktop user to trigger the script?
[20:41] <saddvdperson> Hi.  I'm having a hard time getting my DVD to play.  I have restricted-extra drivers and libcss stuff installed, and I rebooted.  I can get the menu to show and it looks great, but the actual movie is all garbled.  What can I do to make it play properly?
[20:42] <saddvdperson> I've tried it in both totem and VLC, and it works the same way (doesn't work the same way)... :(
[20:42] <erUSUL> saddvdperson: tried different players ? xine-ui is great for dvd's also vlc ... totem (the default one) is notsogreat
[20:42] <dcherniv> twig11: yea there is
[20:42] <tonii> how do I set "-display" option correctly with xset? I've tried /dev/tty#, 0:0, 0, :0 etc but none are working.
[20:42] <dcherniv> twig11: does it ask you for a password?
[20:43] <twig11> dcherniv: no. It does what you see there. no prompts at all
[20:43] <RocketLauncher> EDIT: SCROT doesn't work at all! Wow I confused myself .. Back to phase one.
[20:43] <saddvdperson> Hm, I think it's the disc.  I put my old Matrix DVD in and it does play...
[20:44] <dcherniv> twig11: even with sudo /bin/fixwifi ?
[20:44] <saddvdperson> It's this new Haunting in Connecticut DVD.  Is there maybe some lame encryption on it that I need to install something more to see properly?
[20:44] <twig11> dcherniv: hold on while i check. my connection will be down temporarily if it works, you know.
[20:45] <dcherniv> twig11: ok
[20:45] <erUSUL> saddvdperson: that dvd is simply foobared (scratched or something) ?
[20:45] <L3dPlatedLinux>  If i was to just copy the /.firefox  would that back it up plugins and all?
[20:45] <saddvdperson> It's possible, but it just came out today, so it shouldn't have previous use.  I tried it in my physical DVD player and it played okay
[20:45] <abc> iyi akşamlar
[20:45] <ortsvorsteher> !tr | abc
[20:46] <twig11> dcherniv: Back already. It works with sudo
[20:46] <click_here> I have 2 screens active on my eee pc in ubuntu.... as in i drag a window over to another screen on my eee pc... how do i turn that off?'
[20:46] <dcherniv> twig11: cool no password?
[20:46] <stroyan> tonii: Normally the DISPLAY environment variable is set properly for commands like xset to run.  You will need to tell us more about your situation for anyone to guess what display setting will find the X server you expect to reach.
[20:46] <twig11> dcherniv: right no password
[20:47] <dcherniv> twig11: so write yet another shell script create a new file on your desktop with following contents #!/bin/bash xterm -e "sudo /bin/fixwifi"
[20:47] <dcherniv> twig11: xterm -e goes on the 2nd line
[20:48] <twig11> dcherniv: okay.
[20:48] <erUSUL> L3dPlatedLinux: no; some plgunis are installed system wide (for example when you install flashplugin-nonfree )
[20:48] <mzz> can someone confirm that "Reading files needed to boot" is normally the first thing printed once we're off the initramfs and on the actual partition?
[20:48] <mzz> for some reason I'm only getting a boot splash up until that point.
[20:49] <theTroy> how to use the " in the terminal? i.e. " blabla " blabla " and the string is blabla " blabla
[20:49] <mzz> L3dPlatedLinux: notice plugins and extensions are pretty different. Most of your extensions will be per-profile (in ~/.mozilla). Most of your plugins won't be.
[20:49] <tonii> stroyan: ah, hm. How do I find that out? :D
[20:49] <erUSUL> theTroy: scape it with \
[20:49] <mzz> theTroy: either backslash-escape it or quote the whole lot with single quotes.
[20:49] <L3dPlatedLinux> well the is there a way to make a back up of ff and everything in there so I can just put it back the way I have it now just in case
[20:49] <woodworker2001> Alright.... this is my first time on here and first time ever using anthing to do with Ubuntu... but here is what I am trying to do.  I am trying to set up my own Moodle server. What I want to do is install Ubuntu on a flash drive so I can boot up my laptop using Ubuntu and make it my host server when I want to access the site, but still be able to run windows and keep that info when I dont want to do this.  I have tried 3
[20:49] <woodworker2001> intall
[20:49] <Orange_v_Blue> I've recently been getting an annoying woodblock-esque sound that doesn't seem to be tied to anything in particular, and happens at random. a restart didn't help, and it's really driving me nuts. any ideas, besides muting
[20:50] <erUSUL> theTroy: echo "blabla \"blabla \" more bla "
[20:50] <twig11> dcherniv: I'm done, now just click? :-D
[20:50] <theTroy> thank!
[20:50] <theTroy> thanks*
[20:50] <woodworker2001> Can someone please help?:-)
[20:50] <stroyan> tonii: Start with the basics.  Are you running xset from a gnome-terminal showing in an X server, or from ssh, or what?
[20:50] <mzz> woodworker2001: cut off at "I have tried 3"
[20:51] <tonii> stroyan: ah! from consol. my monitor is put either into suspended mode or "off" and I want to wake it up.
[20:51] <soreau> mzz !
[20:51] <soreau> ;)
[20:51] <Orange_v_Blue> woodworker2001: google dual-boot ubuntu or USB ubuntu boot, that should do it
[20:51] <woodworker2001> intalling the 8.04.2 - i386 server edition and it wont boot after I finish the
[20:51] <erUSUL> !usbinstall
[20:51] <twig11> dcherniv: Can this be run from a non-admin's account as well?
[20:51] <tonii> stroyan: I'm having difficulties to make any other driver then "vesa" to work with X at the moment.
[20:51] <saddvdperson> Maybe it is the disc.  I just tried the other side (full screen) and it does play.
[20:51] <mzz> soreau: I'm messing around with intel kms on a laptop. It even kinda works! But I somehow broke hibernate/resume in the process :(
[20:51] <ortsvorsteher> !install
[20:52] <saddvdperson> I guess this is a bad coincidence of my first DVD play since last linux upgrade and a bad disc after all.
[20:52] <twig11> dcherniv: you still around?
[20:52] <soreau> mzz: Not surprising. suspend/hibernate/resume has been a consistent problem for graphics drivers
[20:52] <theTroy> when I try to echo " !bla" it says even !bla is not found
[20:52] <theTroy> event*
[20:53] <twig11> dcherniv: okay I'm trying it out so I might not see a response from you for a minute
[20:53] <stroyan> tonii: If you do "ps -ef | grep X" you should see a /usr/X11R6/bin/X line.  The first argument to that would be the DISPLAY name.
[20:53] <mzz> soreau: well, I'm not sure if it's my modesetting stuff or my temporary karmic install. I suspect it's either an initramfs issue or a kernel parameter issue, and it doesn't even attempt to resume.
[20:53] <lstarnes> twig11: replace ! with \!
[20:53] <tonii> stroyan: thanks! :)
[20:53] <mzz> soreau: oh wait, I think I might know what it is (and it's none of the above, yay)
[20:53] <kyle3> Hey how do i become a ubuntu mirror?
[20:53] <erUSUL> theTroy: you have to scape ! too. search in google what chars you have to scape in shell
[20:54] <mzz> soreau: I completely forgot about it, but I reformatted my swap partition. I bet the uuid of the old swap partition is still stashed somewhere, and it's unsuccessfully trying to resume from that.
[20:54] <erUSUL> kyle3: there is a link in the main ubuntu site iirc
[20:54] <kyle3> yes
[20:54] <soreau> mzz: Ah ha!
[20:54] <Pici> !newmirror | kyle3
[20:54] <theTroy> erUSUL what do you mean scape? \! doesnt work
[20:54] <erUSUL> theTroy: it does here
[20:54] <twig11> lstarnes: #\!/bin/bash
[20:54] <twig11> xterm -e "sudo /bin/fixwifi"?
[20:54] <kyle3> i have done that its been one week no reply
[20:54] <mzz> soreau: (just to complicate matters further: my swap is on lvm)
[20:54] <theTroy> hmm
[20:54] <woodworker2001> do I need to run server edition to be able to host a moodle site
[20:54] <theTroy> will try again
[20:55] <tonii> stroyan: :0 it says, but xset "cannot open display". hmm.
[20:55] <gangil1> where are all the icons images stored in ubuntu????
[20:55] <erUSUL> mzz: boot with "noresume" boot option ?
[20:55] <soreau> mzz: Why complicate things like that? KMS is enough complexity ;)
[20:55] <erUSUL> gangil1: /usr/share/icons/ ?
[20:55] <lstarnes> twig11: wait, I got the wrong nick.  That was for theTroy
[20:55] <twig11> lstarnes: okay.
[20:55] <mzz> erUSUL: no "noresume" in sight. It does boot fine, it just never even tries to resume (at least not as far as I notice)
[20:55] <dcherniv> twig11: yea that script that you wrote make it executable, chmod +x scriptname
[20:55] <dcherniv> twig11: once its executable you can just double click on it
[20:55] <ortsvorsteher> twig11: no, dont scape the shell interpretor with #\!/bin/bash everytime you write a script for bash, it starts with #!/bin/bash
[20:55] <mzz> soreau: lvm's actually easier than regular partitioning once you're booted
[20:55] <dcherniv> twig11: and it should do the whole shebang automatically
[20:56] <mzz> soreau: it's only during grub and early bootup that it can complicate matters.
[20:56] <theTroy> erUSUL echo " \!bh" results in \!bg not in !bg
[20:56] <twig11> dcherniv: I made it executable using the gui properties
[20:56] <dcherniv> twig11: yea thats fine too
[20:56] <dcherniv> twig11: double click on it see what happens
[20:56] <soreau> mzz: I'll take your word for it. Only messed with lvm once and it was difficult to set up as I recall
[20:56] <twig11> dcherniv: Okay, i'll be outfor a bit while I test...
[20:57] <dcherniv> twig11: alright
[20:57] <soreau> mzz: Mostly because I had to get the right installation iso
[20:57] <twig11> dcherniv: run or run in terminal?
[20:57] <mzz> soreau: well, ubuntu is annoying in that you need the alternative install cd to set up lvm during install (this is a carefully guarded secret or something: I haven't been able to find a list of features on the alt cd that aren't on the regular one anywhere)
[20:57] <Alvinware> Hot to tweak 10-network-security.conf?
[20:57] <dcherniv> twig11: you created that last script with xterm -e on your desktop right?
[20:57] <Apollo2366> I'm trying to combine two .wav files into one. I'm using Audacity, but when I export my project, the .wav file it saves is broken. Help?
[20:57] <dcherniv> twig11: so just double click on it, it should pop a new window up
[20:58] <dcherniv> twig11: just run
[20:58] <soreau> mzz: Yea, I haven't even looked at Jaunty x86 desktop cd's 'alternate' options yet
[20:58] <dcherniv> twig11: no need to run in terminal
[20:58] <mzz> soreau: it's really great once it works though, since it lets me resize and rearrange partitions without their numbers changing
[20:58] <erUSUL> theTroy: weird zsh and /bin/echo get it right but bash echo does not ...
[20:58] <stroyan> tonii: If you are not logged in to the X server then the X authority setting will be the -auth option in the ps line.  If you are logged in then it will be ~/.Xauthority of the user that is logged in.  You would need to "export XAUTHORITY=<path>" with that file to make xset find the right file.
[20:58] <soreau> mzz: Anyway, lemme know if you get suspend back up, I have to run some errands now
[20:58] <fergus> hi u there...  does anyone know not to configure a wireless network using digital certified???
[20:58] <fergus> *how to configure
[20:59] <Dekko> Did you guys figure out how to nake conky show up on the correct monitor yet? ;-)
[20:59] <gangil1> erUSUL: I need the network icon ...where can it be?
[20:59] <stroyan> tonii: Or, maybe the X server is really unhealthy right now.
[20:59] <RocketLauncher> All I want to do is take a screenshot of both monitors. Print screen doesn't work.. scrot doesn't work. Everything takes a screenshot of my left monitor, and not my right. How do I fix this? It's getting on my nerves now
[20:59] <tonii> stroyan: ah. seems like more trouble then it's worth. I just wanted to see if it would solve my current problem with X.
[20:59] <twig11> dcherniv: It works! now if I make a copy will it run from a link on the desktop of a non-admin user?
[20:59] <click_here>  how do i watch you tube videos? what do i need to download and how?
[20:59] <woodworker2001> I hosting a Moodle site from a laptod do you need to run server edition or destop edition?
[21:00] <david_> how do i access glipper. i installed it and cant find it???
[21:00] <tonii> stroyan: X starts on port CRT-0 (dvi) even though the monitor is connected to CRT-1 (vga), which makes the monitor go into suspend or off (don't know which)
[21:00] <dcherniv> twig11: yea sure it should, you have to make sure that the user who will be executing it has executable permissions
[21:00] <tbtroj> "upgrade-manager -d" upgrade to a development release, but is there a way to *always* be in the devel release?
[21:01] <Alvinware> What can i use to convert rmvb to other with gui?
[21:01] <Radtoo> Alvinware: avidemux for instance.
[21:01] <tbtroj> Something like Fedora's Rawhide.
[21:01] <Alvinware> thank you, radtoo.
[21:01] <click_here> how do i view videos on youtube?
[21:01] <fwaokda> anyone have any experience with cloning virtualbox .vdi's ?
[21:02] <minimec> RocketLauncher: I always use gnome-screenshot with my Dual-Screen System. That always works. At least it always worked with ATI and NVIDIA cards.
[21:02] <Radtoo> Alvinware: np. if you need more suggestions, ask again - there's other programs for sure. >D
[21:02] <stroyan> tonii: The monitor selection might be switchable with <fn>F4 or <fn>F5, depending on your system.  You might also see if you can get xrandr to tell you about monitors and possibly switch the output.
[21:02] <RocketLauncher> minimec it only takes a screenshot of my left monitor, that's the problem :(
[21:02] <Radtoo> click_here: your favourite web browser perhaps and adobe's flash?
[21:02] <ascheel> So I learned the most pointless and nerdy thing ever and it's incredible!  hovering over a sound file starts playing it.
[21:03] <naildownx3> I have installed jaunty on my mini 12 and my firefox is freezing my whole machine...anyone have a similar problem before?
[21:03] <tonii> stroyan: hm, didn't try <fn>, I should test that first.
[21:03] <click_here> Radtoo, hmm.. i thought i had both of those already and it still isn't working
[21:03] <Alvinware> radtoo, is avidemux the best in format support?
[21:03] <minimec> RocketLauncher: What GPU do xou have?
[21:03] <fccf> ascheel: thats nautilus integration
[21:03] <ascheel> fccf: it rocks what it is.  :)
[21:03] <david_> is there a decent clipboard manager for ubuntu?
[21:03] <RocketLauncher> minimec ati hd4670
[21:03] <david_> yet
[21:04] <linduxed> lets say ive got a music folder in /home/linduxed/music and i want the user mpd to be able to access it through a symlink called /var/lib/mpd/music, how do i set up the permissions so mpd gets to see and read the contents of /home/linduxed/music?
[21:04] <minimec> RocketLauncher: fglrx driver?
[21:04] <Radtoo> Alvinware: its pretty good. if you're in need to do this professionally you may be more happy with ffmpeg or transcode or mencoder on the command line, but I think avidemux has more than most people need.
[21:04] <RocketLauncher> minimec nope
[21:04] <fccf> david_: glipper is a clipboard manager for gnome
[21:05] <RocketLauncher> minimec http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[21:05] <ascheel> linduxed: if I remember right, the user MPD gets ran as needs to have permissions to access both the sym link (including all parent directories)
[21:05] <click_here> i think i need a decoder
[21:05] <RocketLauncher> minimec thats what i use
[21:05] <Alvinware> Thank You very much for your advices, Radtoo.
[21:05] <click_here> is gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ok to install?
[21:05] <mgolisch> click_here: yeah why not?
[21:05] <ascheel> linduxed: the directory it's pointing to also needs permissions for the same user and I could be wrong on this, but I think the user needs to have permission to access the directory from the standard (non-sym link) as well
[21:06] <click_here> mgolisch, i don't want to get a virus or something
[21:06] <Radtoo> Alvinware: np.
[21:06] <minimec> RocketLauncher: Ok. Could be a driver thing. I don't see a reason, why gnome-screenshot shouldn't work. I personally guess its a driver related problem.
[21:06] <linduxed> ascheel: that sounds reasonable, but terribly insecure in a way
[21:06] <click_here> mgolisch, plus, it says its restricted software
[21:06] <ascheel> linduxed, insecure?  You want them to have access, that's as secure or insecure as it gets.
[21:06] <ascheel> Either they have access or they don't
[21:06] <RocketLauncher> minimec Should I try fglrx? I tried it before but I didn't know how to set up dual screens using it. Display preferences didn't even load up..
[21:07] <david_> fccf, i installed glipper and cant find it..:-/
[21:07] <minimec> RocketLauncher: There is an ati config gui. You have to use that one.
[21:07] <linduxed> ascheel: yeah i guess im talking trash
[21:07] <fccf> david_: hold on while I test
[21:07] <mgolisch> click_here: i think the bad set codecs isnt as good quality as the others but it shouldnt realy harm your system in anyway
[21:07] <david_> fccf, k
[21:07] <RocketLauncher> minimec I'll try getting fglrx now. do i have to uninstall the radeon driver that i already have or what
[21:07] <click_here> mgoliscoh okh,
[21:08] <ascheel> linduxed: mpd is a server process.  As long as it's locked down, you have nothing to worry about.  I don't believe mpd needs write access, just read
[21:08] <click_here> mgolisch, you wouldn't happen to know of a great music player for ubuntu that lets you rip in flac?
[21:08] <linduxed> ascheel: thats right
[21:08] <ascheel> linduxed: I'm going to advise you to check out #mpd, as it's a bit off topic for the #ubuntu channel.
[21:08] <minimec> RocketLauncher: No. That is no problem, but you well have to uninstall the fglrx driver, if you want to use the opensource driver, because fglrx adds a special kernel module.
[21:08] <ascheel> linduxed: but I believe what I told you is truth
[21:08] <sumant> does anyone know how to watch videos on www.crackle.com
[21:08] <RocketLauncher> minmec okay
[21:09] <ascheel> !ot | sumant
[21:09] <sumant> i have ubuntu 9.04 with adobe flash 10 istalled
[21:09] <RocketLauncher> minimec: I'll try getting the fglrx driver now
[21:09] <Alvinware> Radtoo, which website have the guide to edit 10-network-security.conf?
[21:09] <sumant> @ubottu thanks man
[21:09] <click_here> all i still get in youtube is black video, no video
[21:10] <ascheel> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:10] <mzz> Alvinware: tweak it to accomplish what?
[21:10] <fccf> david_: run pkill gnome-panel  ... and wait for a new panel ... then right click on top panel and click add to panel
[21:11] <twig11> dcherniv: I've copied the file to family's home folder, now what do I have to do to the permissions? they still confuse me, can you list the command?
[21:11] <velcroshooz> following a howto for cpu scaling, wants me to go to gconf-editor under gnome-power-manager, and the hading 'cpufreq' under that. its not listed. what gives?
[21:11] <insigne> flashplayer-installer
[21:11] <RocketLauncher> minimec, I get this when trying to download fglrx in synaptic: http://pastebin.com/d4bd85aec
[21:11] <david_> fccf, its not in the add to panel list
[21:11] <Alvinware> radtoo, I'm using aMule, and Transmission, while browsing web pages, it slow, so i intend to tweak it for internet/network performance.
[21:12] <dcherniv> twig11: sudo chmod 777 /path/to/script
[21:12] <fccf> david_ it will say clipboard manager  in the list
[21:12] <twig11> dcherniv: okay
[21:12] <naildownx3> does anyone have a dell mini 12?
[21:12] <david_> fccf, ahhhh thanks
[21:13] <minimec> RocketLauncher: You have another window with Synaptic or another package manager open. 2"nd: Install the fglrx driver via the restricted drivers option in the system settings menu.
[21:13] <RocketLauncher> minimec where is the restricted drivers? is that in Hardware Drivers?
[21:13] <btgream> can anyone help with gftp?
[21:14] <Tenkawa> anyone good with usb bluetooth adapters?
[21:14] <Tenkawa> got one that no module seems to have any clue about
[21:14] <ascheel> naildownx3: I use a similar laptop. Same CPU and video, if I remember right.
[21:14] <twig11> dcherniv: does anything have to be done to the permissions of the target script fixwifi in /bin for non-admin users to be able to run it?
[21:14] <minimec> RocketLauncher: System/Admin/Hardware Drivers... in the menu yes
[21:14] <Tenkawa> hciconfig sees it.. thats the odd part
[21:15] <Tenkawa> but the bluetooth wizard etc doesnt
[21:15] <ziewback_> hi! i have a new notebook with an intel 3935abg wireless adapter and the kernel seems to load the module (modprobe -l lists it) but i get no interface in ifconfig an the network manager does not show wireless connections (the option to turn wireless on or off is grey) - anyone got ideas how to find out whats wrong?
[21:15] <fwaokda> how can I install ubuntu-amd64.iso to my thumbdrive in ubuntu-i386 ?
[21:15] <velcroshooz> Tenkawa: ill tell you right now the bluetooth stack in linux is awful. Spent a week with bluetooth headphones only to find out the support just isnt there yet.
[21:15] <mgolisch> ziewback_: dmesg?
[21:15] <Tenkawa> velcroshooz: agreed
[21:15] <bambu> hi. if i want to have ubuntu/vista dual boot, which should i install first? do i need to make a partition in my HDD?
[21:15] <ziewback_> mgolisch: just a moment
[21:16] <ascheel> fwaokda: I recommend you don't use ubuntu-amd64.iso, I recommend you download the ubuntu installer meant for thumb drives and memory sticks
[21:16] <fwaokda> nevermind
[21:16] <fridgos> hi
[21:16] <fridgos> hi
[21:16] <fwaokda> ascheel, what u mean?
[21:16] <Apollo2366> Is anyone here experienced with Audacity?
[21:16] <fridgos> yep
[21:16] <ascheel> fwaokda: .iso files are CD images, meant to burn to a CD.
[21:16] <leaf-sheep> !dualboot | bambu
[21:17] <fridgos> apollo person i use audacity
[21:17] <bambu> thanks
[21:17] <fccf> Apollo2366: what are you trying to do in audacity
[21:17] <dcherniv> twig11: not really. except maybe sudo chmod a+x /bin/fixwifi
[21:17] <velcroshooz> Tenkawa: could only get my phones paired every once in awhile, took commands after the pairing in commandline to work, then pulseaudio would try switching apps for output and just die. Dunno if your just trying to sync a phone or what but anything else is going to be intermittent its basically unusable
[21:17] <dcherniv> twig11: and sudo chmod +r /bin/fixwifi
[21:17] <RocketLauncher> minimec for some reason hardware drivers just sits at 0 percent "Searching for available drivers"
[21:17] <Apollo2366> fccf, I'm trying to combine two .wav files into one, but when I export my project, the .wav file it saves is broken. Help?
[21:17] <fwaokda> ascheel, where do i find the other iso for thumb drive then?
[21:17] <btgream> bambu: if windows is installed first.. when you boot from the ubuntu cd there is an option to personally partition your hardrive but windows will not recognize
[21:17] <fridgos> you need to  make sure it isnt corrup
[21:18] <fridgos> corrupt
[21:18] <fwaokda> ascheel, btw I'm installing it to a pc just via thumb drive... if that matters?
[21:18] <ascheel> fwaokda: stand by.  It won't be a .iso file.
[21:18] <ziewback_> mgolisch: hm it says two things: "eadio frequency kill switch is on, radio disabled by kill switch" and "firmware: requesting ilwifi..." - whats this rf kill switch?
[21:18] <bambu> btgream: which should i install first?
[21:18] <mgolisch> fwaokda: i think usb inmages are only availiable for netbook remix
[21:18] <velcroshooz> following a howto for cpu scaling, wants me to go to gconf-editor under gnome-power-manager, and the heading 'cpufreq' under that. its not listed. what gives?
[21:18] <fwaokda> mgolisch, bah well i dont want that trash
[21:18] <minimec> RocketLauncher: I don't know why that is. It should find the driver.
[21:18] <btgream> bumbu: well i had xp but it was installed first
[21:18] <woodworker2001> if I want to host a moodle site on my laptop which ubunto system should I use for this?
[21:18] <RocketLauncher> minimec is there another way to obtain it
[21:19] <bambu> nm. ubuntu help says windows first is easier
[21:19] <btgream> instead of vista.. not a big vista fan
[21:19] <camt> babmu: vista first is much easier
[21:19] <mgolisch> ziewback_: it means the radio switch is off, sure there is no switch or button on the keyboard?
[21:19] <twig11> dcherniv: I just tested it from a non-admin account and it works. WOOHOOOO! Thanks for all the help! I'm up and running.
[21:19] <fwaokda> ascheel, mgolisch , the usb startdisk creator in ubuntu wont solve putting the iso to my usb drive for me?
[21:19] <fccf> woodworker2001: any or all... running the LAMP stack you can use moodle pretty easily
[21:19] <mgolisch> fwaokda: it will
[21:19] <fridgos> fuck
[21:19] <twig11> Frozen-
[21:19] <fwaokda> mgolisch, ok well im gonna do that then
[21:20] <fwaokda> mgolisch, thanks
[21:20] <fridgos> i sed d fuck werd
[21:20] <ascheel> fwaokda: this will make it easy:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[21:20] <fridgos> fuck
[21:20] <FloodBot3> fridgos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <btgream> CAN SOMEONE DIRECT CONNECT WITH ME AND ANSWER A FEW SIMPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT GFTP?? PLZ
[21:20] <minimec> RocketLauncher: If aou are not used to install fglrx, I recommend the Ubuntu way. You can also download the binary driver from the official AMD/ATI Homepage. The ubuntu way is much easier.
[21:20] <ascheel> !ops fridgos
[21:20] <woodworker2001> fccf : I am new to this and over my head.. not sure what you said means..... sorry trying to learn this for a final project
[21:20] <ascheel> !ops | fridgos
[21:20] <fwaokda> ascheel, but i dont want the netbook remix version
[21:20] <Alvinware> Radtoo, are u still there?
[21:20] <ivan_> hey i have been trying to boot ubuntu but it keeps starting up in text
[21:20] <sjlkg> hi, this might not be the right channel, but does anyone know how to open streams from thedailyshow.com with toem?
[21:20] <ivan_> can anyone help
[21:20] <sjlkg> *totem
[21:20] <fridgos> fuck
[21:20] <RocketLauncher> minimec what do you mean the Ubuntu way?
[21:20] <mgolisch> ziewback_: whats the notebook model?
[21:21] <btgream> DOES ANYONE USE GFTP??
[21:21] <ascheel> fwaokda: I understand that.  Follow the link the other fellow gave you for creating a boot disk.
[21:21] <Apollo2366> fccf, do you have any idea what might be wrong?
[21:21] <minimec> RocketLauncher: As you do it now, with that Hardwar Dirvers wizard.
[21:21] <ziewback_> mgolisch: well there is some button one can press by using fn-f2 but it does not seem to do anything - its belinea jft00
[21:21] <fccf> woodworker2001: you will need a LAMP stack ... thats LInux Apache Mysql Php ... which is the engine that moodle .. the modular object oriented distributed learning environment .. runs on
[21:21] <Klowny> is there anywhere online i can learn to customize gnome?
[21:21] <Athunye> Hello. I cannot get the microphone working. Everything is enabled. Any help would be appreciated.
[21:21] <ascheel> fwaokda: an iso file will ONLY allow you to burn it to a CD, not to a USB device.  It's not quite as easy getting it to a USB Device, but it *IS* possible
[21:21] <Klowny> like i just want 1 bar instead of 2
[21:21] <RocketLauncher> minimec Hardware Drivers doesn't seem to be working correctly for some reason.. on ATI's site I've seen this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.37&lang=English and on packages.ubuntu I found this http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/xorg-driver-fglrx/download (which is what I'm actually downloading)
[21:21] <mgolisch> ziewback_: whats the modules name?
[21:21] <ziewback_> mgolish: should pressing such a software key do something immeadeately?
[21:22] <bumblebee> hello i have about 30 gb on my root which is of no use and the space is being wasted ,i was planning to repartition it and get another partition of 10-15 gb out of it ,any idea how to do it?
[21:22] <jaroo> hi there. Is it possible to have multiple versions of certain library installed on ubuntu? I'd like to make some experimets with current libxml2 - unfortunately my ubuntu has quite old implementation so I need to compile it from sources. But I would like not to break anything. Are there any suggestions on this? I suppose that gentoo people call this "stacking".
[21:22] <woodworker2001> fccf it doesnt matter if I am running desktop or server version of ubuntu
[21:22] <hatter243> ascheel, I tend to use unetbootin for that. It's sort of hit-and-miss sometimes though
[21:22] <ascheel> bumblebee: I recommend a gparted live CD
[21:22] <btgream> DOES ANYONE USE GFTP??
[21:22] <ziewback_> mgolisch: it seems its iwl3945
[21:22] <RocketLauncher> minimec: the one at packages.ubuntu gives me the same error: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[21:22] <mzz> bumblebee: I'm pretty sure you can't online-shrink ext3 or ext4, but gparted off the livecd should make this fairly painless.
[21:22] <fwaokda> ascheel, well it seems very easy using the ubuntu tool by going to "System>Admin>Usb startup disk creator" ...
[21:22] <fccf> Apollo2366: my first thought is you don't have the appropriate debs loaded to do audiofile manipulation
[21:22] <ascheel> hatter243: I've had the same experience.  I've found the easiest solution is to use a USB to IDE converter and just boot from a normal CD
[21:22] <bumblebee> any suggestions for live cd
[21:22] <ascheel> fwaokda: that's true, but that won't have the USB installer on it
[21:23] <bumblebee> knoppix or something else
[21:23] <fccf> woodworker2001: in an educational environment ... no
[21:23] <mzz> bumblebee: what do you intend to use the new partition for, though? A bindmount might allow you to accomplish the same thing without repartitioning.
[21:23] <btgream> DOES ANYONE USE GFTP??
[21:23] <minimec> RocketLauncher: As I said. You have anopther synaptic session open. You have to close all synaptic windows...
[21:23] <moncky> bumblebee: is your home dir in its own partition?
[21:23] <fwaokda> ascheel, whats the usb installer?
[21:23] <bumblebee> and im planning to put mac os x on it
[21:23] <bumblebee> home is separate
[21:23] <RocketLauncher> minimec I dont have any open
[21:23] <peleg> Does anyone know how to change the order of the definitions in dictd? /etc/dictd/dictd.order does not change anythin
[21:23] <ascheel> fwaokda: repeat that, fwaokda?  I don't understand what you're asking.
[21:23] <ziewback_> mgolisch: if this is just a software button is there a possibility to tell the module the button is always on?
[21:23] <Apollo2366> fccf, What debs do you think I need, and where can I find them? Also, .wav is the only file format that doesn't work.
[21:23] <mzz> btgream: shout less please, and what's your actual question?
[21:23] <mgolisch> ziewback_: if you run: cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl3945*/rf_kill  in a terminal, what does it output?
[21:23] <moncky> well you could just resize your root partition with gparted
[21:24] <moncky> bumblebee: but back up your stuff first
[21:24] <Agion> hi, would anyone want to help me configure my X? for now it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m473f9eac
[21:24] <Klowny> if i want the kde look installed what would i install
[21:24] <fwaokda> you said "...that won't have the USB installer on it" I asked what is the "USB installer" your talking about.
[21:24] <Klowny> is it a whole other os?
[21:24] <sjlkg> does anyone know how to open streams from thedailyshow.com with totem?
[21:24] <fwaokda> ascheel, you said "...that won't have the USB installer on it" I asked what is the "USB installer" your talking about.
[21:24] <ascheel> moncky: aye I suggested that, but he will need to do it from a live CD.  Can't resize a mounted partition.
[21:24] <bumblebee> hmmm... i tried putting mac osx vmware does not work
[21:24] <minimec> RocketLauncher: There is a process running. Try to kill that process in the gnome-system-monitor or restart the machine.
[21:24] <akSeya> hi there!!
[21:24] <mgolisch> ziewback_:  cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl3945/*/rf_kill  sorry forgot a slash
[21:24] <mgolisch> :)
[21:24] <bumblebee> so thought might install it
[21:24] <ascheel> fwaokda: sorry, I meant that won't have the Ubuntu Installer.  I made a typo, I apologize
[21:24] <akSeya> is there anyone here familiar with kino?
[21:24] <mzz> ascheel: you can actually grow a mounted ext4 partition, but you can't shrink it.
[21:24] <btgream> mzz: thank you.. just wondering how someone can access your files using gftp
[21:24] <woodworker> fccf I didnt catch you last answer.... I am not sure what I just did ...... sorry new to this whole thing
[21:25] <RocketLauncher> minimec ok
[21:25] <ascheel> mzz: ah, that I didn't know.  EXT4 only or can you do it with ext2/3
[21:25] <mzz> btgream: iirc gftp is just a client, so they can't
[21:25] <mzz> ascheel: I suspect you can do it with ext3 too. I don't know about reiser.
[21:25] <mgolisch> and its not been maintained for ages
[21:25] <quentusrex> Where should I go to get information on Ubuntu and Nvidia with multiple graphics cards and multiple monitors?
[21:25] <mgolisch> id use something else
[21:25] <mgolisch> filezilla for example
[21:25] <btgream> mzz: wack! thanks!
[21:25] <quentusrex> I have two cards with 4 monitors...
[21:25] <bumblebee> any suggestions for live cd .....
[21:25] <akSeya> i'm trying to import a AVI video into kino, so I can cut it a bit, but the importing is taking too long.. it's a 200mb movie and it's importing for about 40 minutes now
[21:25] <moncky> ascheel: bumblebee ahh true in that case just use the ubuntu live cd to resize the partition
[21:25] <fwaokda> ascheel, hmm ok
[21:25] <fwaokda> ascheel, thanks
[21:25] <mzz> ascheel: especially useful if the partition's sitting on an lvm volume, which you can easily resize without having to move partitions around
[21:26] <ziewback_> mgolisch: hm it says no such file or drectory - there is a iwl3945 dir but there is only bind, new_id etc in it
[21:26] <akSeya> it created two files, one .pcm and one .dv .. both are empty
[21:26] <ascheel> fwaokda: you're welcome
[21:26] <bumblebee> ok thats cool
[21:26] <akSeya> sorry.. not .dv its .i420
[21:26] <Klowny> wow 158mb download just to make my ubuntu pretty lol
[21:26] <RocketLauncher> minimec i dont see anything open
[21:27] <ascheel> Klowny: what did you download for that?  haha
[21:27] <Klowny> kubuntu-desktop ascheel
[21:27] <fccf> woodworker: for educational purposes .. no it would not matter which version you'd be usin
[21:27] <ascheel> Klowny: hehe...  good luck with that. :)
[21:27] <minimec> RocketLauncher: 'All processes'-tab. There has do be a process runnung, that blocks apt.
[21:28] <Klowny> why is it bad ascheel???
[21:28] <woodworker> fccf: is one easier than the other?
[21:28] <quentusrex> Where should I go to get information on Ubuntu and Nvidia with multiple graphics cards and multiple monitors?
[21:28] <Apollo2366> fccf, did you catch my response?
[21:28] <quentusrex> I have two cards with 4 monitors...
[21:28] <ziewback_> mgolisch: i tried cat .../iwl3945/0000...00/rfkill/rfkill0/state and it gives me "2"
[21:28] <jjlee> I don't have a bluetooth icon in my gnome panel.  lsusb lists my bluetooth adaptor.  bluetoothd is running.  What else needs to be there for this to work?
[21:28] <ascheel> Klowny: lol KDE is just overwhelming for people new to it, that's all I meant.
[21:28] <BigDennis> say i am trying to get firefox to send irc connection data to xchat, but everything i have tried via the net has been useless.
[21:28] <Klowny> oh i won't bother with it then because i am new to ubuntu period
[21:29] <billy_> hello folks, just made the mistake of upgrading to jaunty, whilst have a ATI card! does anyone have a link to a workaround ? thanks
[21:29] <Klowny> i am just sick of 2 bars on top and bottom
[21:29] <Klowny> i just want one bar
[21:29] <ascheel> Klowny: you can customize those bars.
[21:29] <ascheel> Klowny: right-click the one you don't want and remove it
[21:29] <Klowny> i've tried ascheel i am too stupid lol
[21:29] <fccf> Apollo2366: in Synaptic .. search for wav and install the actual wave plugins/drivers ... not sure what they all are called ... work with the discriptions
[21:29] <BigDennis> have the white screen of death billy?
[21:29] <Klowny> no ascheel because then i dunno how to get everything on one bar safely lol
[21:29] <roberto_> msg %s xdcc list
[21:29] <moncky> fccf:try apt-cache search <thing>
[21:29] <RocketLauncher> minimec i dont see it unless i don't know what I'm really looking at. is there any way to save a log of this?
[21:30] <Apollo2366> fccf, I can play any other .wav just fine. It's just this one that doesn't work.
[21:30] <velcroshooz> following a howto for cpu scaling, wants me to go to gconf-editor under gnome-power-manager, and the heading 'cpufreq' under that. its not listed. what gives?
[21:30] <leaf-sheep> Klowny: Just drag all applets from top panel to bottom panel.  Oh by the way, they're called panels.
[21:31] <Klowny> ok leaf-sheep
[21:31] <minimec> RocketLauncher: Just restart that machine. There is something blocking the installation software apt. That's the error message you showed me. Restarting the machine, or maybe even a basic logout/login will kill that process, if you don't find it.
[21:31] <Dreki> billy_: my friend and i just upgraded also, he has an ati card, and i have an nvidia, I installed mine and everything works great, however, it took him 12 hours to figure out a way to get his drivers to work, im not sure what he did to fix it tho sry...
[21:31] <moncky> minimec: RocketLauncher ps
[21:31] <RocketLauncher> minimec i'll restart
[21:32] <woodworker> fccf:  do you have any insight to installing Ubuntu onto a flash drive?
[21:32] <mgolisch> ziewback_: tried setting it to 0?
[21:32] <billy_> Dreki: thanks... I may down grade until its fixed
[21:33] <ziewback_> mgolisch: not yet
[21:33] <fccf> !usb | woodworker
[21:33] <mgolisch> ziewback_: try to do so and then reload the module
[21:33] <ziewback_> mgolisch: how do i reload the module?
[21:34] <woodworker> fccf: I wan to install to a bootable flash drive not from a flash drive
[21:34] <mgolisch> ziewback_: sudo modprobe -r modulename; sudo modprobe modulename
[21:34] <fccf> woodworker: look at the persistant install .. second link
[21:34] <bastidrazor> Klowny, http://yfrog.com/b7screenshottoip
[21:34] <Evelina> I have rtcwake -s 180 -m mem last in a bash script, but the script doesn't execute the command, why? the command works when I run it from command line manually using sudo rtcwake -s 180 -m mem.
[21:35] <Sirisian|Work> Simple. I'm trying to grep my whole HD and put all the results in a folder. What am I doing wrong. Did I miss some single quotes? grep -r -i repair / > /tmp/foo
[21:35] <Apollo2366> fccf, I think I'm just not saving it correctly or something. Any idea?
[21:35] <ziewback_> mgolisch: sudo echo 0 | /sys/.../iwletc.../state gives me permission denied
[21:35] <Evelina> I am sure the script executes because it writes a file to my home folder.
[21:35] <mgolisch> ziewback_: do sudo -s before then enter the command in a root shell
[21:35] <brentv911> i'm curiouse.  is there are help web sites for setting up a VPN on ubuntu
[21:35] <moncky> Evelina: can you put the script into pastebin?
[21:35] <fccf> !vpn
[21:35] <Dreki> billy_: well, i know that he got it fixed somehow, id try downloading ATI drivers make the file runable and run it directly, i think thats how he started...
[21:35] <mgolisch> ziewback_: also use echo foo > bar
[21:36] <Evelina> mgolisch: I have a cron job that I have created using sudo crontab -e. Wouldn't the script be run as root then?
[21:36] <ascheel> Evelina: yes
[21:36] <mgolisch> Evelina: it should
[21:36] <RocketLauncher> minimec i'm going to try to do it now
[21:36] <minimec> RocketLauncher: Yeah. Let's hope for the best.
[21:36] <bastidrazor> brentv911, http://tinyurl.com/mrflnt   take your pick
[21:37] <pelle_k> Hey people. Can anyone tell me how to list *manually* (i mean by the defention of the *word*, not by apt(itudes) defenition) such as debfoster does it, using aptitude? According to debfoster's homepage it's deprecated just because aptitude has this functionality, but i haven't been able to replicate it. I'm not looking for another "dpkg --get-selections" script mind you.
[21:37] <Evelina> mgolisch: Strange, but the command rtcwake -s 180 -m mem doesn't execute at all. When I run it manually with sudo in front it will.
[21:37] <fccf> Apollo2366: er um ... not really ... make sure you have the right encoders and such .. not sure how well audacity works with wav
[21:37] <ascheel> Evelina: to be sure it's set up as root, look at the files in the directory:  /var/spool/cron/crontabs   each file is the cron for the user the file is named after.
[21:37] <moncky> Evelina: is the crontab running the command, or does id execute a .sh script that you wrote?
[21:37] <RocketLauncher> minimec install successful brb
[21:37] <woodworker> fccf:  I have tried 3 times to install direct to flash drive..... but when I place the GRUB file to /dev/sdb1 and try to reboot it comes up with a damaged or invalid bootable partition error.
[21:37] <ascheel> moncky: even if it's a script, it's being executed as the user it's in the crontab under
[21:37] <Apollo2366> fccf, thanks anyway...
[21:37] <mgolisch> Evelina: the cron daemon might have a different environemnt, make sure to use full paths to executables
[21:38] <ziewback_> mgolisch: gmesg says the rf_kill switch is still on
[21:38] <Evelina> moncky: The crontab is running a script where the last line is rtcwake -s 180 -m mem.
[21:38] <mgolisch> ziewback_: but cat on the state thing doenst say 2 anymore?
[21:38] <Evelina> moncky: I'm sure the cron job work because the script also creates a file in my home folder.
[21:38] <leaf-sheep> pelle_k: Sounds like you want Computer Janitor.  Not sure.
[21:39] <moncky> ascheel: so file ownership ok?
[21:39] <ascheel> moncky: file ownership only relates to the permissions as to whether cron can execute it.
[21:39] <ivan_> hey so i am stumped, every time i reboot and start ubuntu it starts in text mode, ive tried looking but apparently no one has a problem like this in the forums. can anyone please show me how to start it "graphically"
[21:39] <Evelina> mgolisch: Hm, I'll check it out.
[21:39] <mooseburger> When I plug in my ipod, rhythmbox starts playing music in my other user account. I fix this by using top to see the pid of rhythmbox, and then killing it. Any idea how to prevent this from happening in the first place though?
[21:39] <fccf> woodworker: hmm perhaps you need to run grub on the disk, as opposed to putting the file on ...
[21:39] <ziewback_> mgolisch: just lokked and it still says 2 after setting it
[21:40] <fccf> !grub | woodworker .. see this
[21:40] <pelle_k> leaf-sheep: this only lists packages "not needed" anymore, or not in the repos, probably a bug. Thanks for trying though :)
[21:40] <syslq78> Anyone installed vlc 1.0.0?
[21:40] <ivan_> so.... anyone got any ideas
[21:40] <ascheel> syslq78: I have and it works wonderfully for me
[21:40] <leaf-sheep> !x | ivan_ (See the command).
[21:41] <woodworker> fccf:  it gives me the option to put the file on my master boot list, but then the usb drive is only good on one computer
[21:41] <pelle_k> syslq78, sure. It runs great..
[21:41] <leaf-sheep> ivan_: Gnome?
[21:41] <Evelina> ascheel: When I do ls /var/spool/cron/cronjob I only get root as an answer in Terminal. So I think the cron job is executed as root.
[21:41] <ascheel> ivan:  update-rc.d gdm add
[21:41] <syslq78> Guys have you used the deb provided on vlc web site?
[21:41] <Cypher67_> how can i change the native drive of my tp-link wireless card for the ndiswrapper driver?
[21:41] <syslq78> Or is it in some repo?
[21:41] <ivan_> alright thanks
[21:41] <billy_> Dreki: thanks ...I'll give it a try
[21:41] <fccf> woodworker: see the second link about grub ... you can install directly to the stick
[21:41] <ascheel> Evelina, that's correct.  That 'root' file is a text file, it contains your cron.  If you ONLY have root, then it will be executed as that user
[21:42] <woodworker> fccf:  I am looking at that now
[21:42] <ascheel> syslq78: I did use that deb.  Worked ok for me.
[21:42] <mgolisch> ziewback_: strange, what version of ubuntu do you run?
[21:42] <mgolisch> ziewback_: also make sure to install all upgrades
[21:42] <ziewback_> mgolisch: 9.04
[21:42] <syslq78> ascheel, thanks I'm looking forward to upgrading
[21:42] <mgolisch> updates
[21:42] <pelle_k> syslq78: well i installed it from this page, http://philip.magicalforest.se/ .
[21:42] <ziewback_> mgolisch: hard without wlan.. :)
[21:43] <mgolisch> theres been alot of changes with that rfkill stuff in recent kernel versions
[21:43] <ivan_> thanks so  "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" will restart the graphical interface?
[21:43] <Evelina> Hm, I'm not sure rtcwake is even installed. I get nothing when I do sudo aptitude show rtcwake or sudo aptitude search rtcwake.
[21:43] <syslq78> pelle_k, thanks
[21:43] <pelle_k> syslq78: though i only pulled what was needed and then deactivated it, since it contains lots of stuff i didn't want to update...
[21:43] <mgolisch> ziewback_: you dont have a wired connection?
[21:43] <bastidrazor> ivan_, ? needs to be a k or a g .. k for kubuntu g for ubuntu
[21:43] <Evelina> I'm stupid. Of course it's installed. I have run it from Terminal. :(
[21:43] <Nan0fire> nano
[21:44] <syslq78> I have heard vlc 1.0.0 has way better interface. VLC is kickass software with sad interface :)
[21:44] <RocketLauncher> minimec, i'm on windows right now. When I restarted Ubuntu, i saw a bunch of static and it's frozen
[21:44] <pioter> !!
[21:44] <ivan_> got it thank you
[21:44] <Evelina> How do I find the path to rtcwake?
[21:44] <Evelina> I tried find rtcwake without any luck.
[21:44] <ascheel> Evelina: which rtcwake
[21:44] <Evelina> ascheel: Ok
[21:45] <ziewback_> mgolisch: at the moment not - well will try after updates
[21:45] <ziewback_> mgolisch: thx for now
[21:45] <woodworker> fccf:  I am trying to do this from windows...... I am not currently running linux.... arent these instructions from linux?
[21:45] <Evelina> /usr/sbin/rtcwake
[21:45] <ascheel> Evelina: there ya go
[21:45] <amitay> join #django
[21:45] <Evelina> I'll try to put the path before the command in my script.
[21:45] <amitay> oops me. Sorry.
[21:46] <mgolisch> ziewback_: you could also try to play with the enable/disable wlan thing in networkmanager, or doesnt it see it at all=
[21:46] <mgolisch> ?
[21:46] <RocketLauncher> i'm quitting linux minimec bye
[21:46] <minimec> RocketLauncher: Shouldn't be like that. That's why I wanted you to install it the Ubuntu way. I was pretty sure, that you will avoid that kind of problems...
[21:47] <pelle_k> syslq78: well vlc from repos had that bug where the video window is separated from the main gui, but with 1.0 thats fixed, fortunately. I prefer totem though *hides*
[21:47] <ziewback_> mgolisch: i found someone stating a solution on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-453380.html - but he says one should modprobe fsam7400 (works) and then i should "echo 1 > /proc/driver/wireless/radio" but there is no /proc/wireless - btw there is no wlan on network manager
[21:47] <syslq78> pelle_k, bug? I thought that's a feature
[21:47] <Evelina> Thanks guys. I'll try it out right now, will see how it goes.
[21:48] <syslq78> pelle_k, totem is mplayer fork isnt it?
[21:49] <Cypher67> why when i try to use ndiswrapper it returns a message that the hardware is not present?
[21:50] <Evelina> What is the difference between: wget -O /dev/null "http://..." and wget "http://..." > /dev/null
[21:50] <mgolisch> Evelina: none
[21:50] <pelle_k> syslq78: bug/feature, to each his own. But i would like to have the choice for both modes.. Totem is not an mplayer fork, it's a gnome application using gstreamer while mplayer uses windows codecs (win32codecs) actually...
[21:50] <ivan_> i tried it but when it wrote "starting GNOME" it failed
[21:50] <Evelina> mgolisch: Ok, just wondering.
[21:51] <syslq78> mplayer is using windows codecs?
[21:51] <mgolisch> mplayer draws most of it supported formats from ffmpegs libavcodecs
[21:51] <mgolisch> just like vlc
[21:51] <mgolisch> and i think both are supperior to gstreamer based stuff
[21:51] <mgolisch> in many ways
[21:52] <Radtoo> syslq78: ya, it can use a few windows codecs but usually its using native codecs
[21:52] <Cypher67> why when i try to use ndiswrapper it returns a message that the hardware is not present?
[21:52] <mgolisch> Cypher67: is the hardware present?
[21:52] <mgolisch> Cypher67: you probably loaded a inf for a wrong device
[21:52] <syslq78> mgolisch, libvacodecs are open source from what I know
[21:52] <mgolisch> syslq78: yeah ffmpeg is opensource
[21:52] <syslq78> mgolisch, mhm
[21:53] <fergus> flw galera..  fui
[21:53] <mgolisch> its the defacto standard in video encoding/decoding libraries
[21:53] <Evelina> Well, at least rtcwake worked as expected. The computer suspended as it should. Now I only have to get it to work using cron job.
[21:53] <Cypher67> it is present and working with a native linux driver and i am trying to change to a windows driver
[21:53] <mgolisch> Cypher67: why?
[21:53] <ascheel> Evelina, if you need help just ask.  It's a pretty easy and straightforward task
[21:54] <mgolisch> also it will not work if the device is used by another driver allready
[21:54] <mgolisch> you have to unload the driver before
[21:54] <syslq78> Well anyway I didnt meet anything on linux that vlc or mplayer didnt handle so far
[21:54] <Cypher67> because the signal for the wireless is to weak. i have changed in mandriva to a windows driver and the signal improved a lot
[21:54] <mgolisch> yeah, and both have some realy cool feature
[21:54] <Evelina> Is there any problem removing the graphics card belogning to my server and only use the server remote by another computer? Will it do any harm to remove a graphics card from a computer running Ubuntu Server?
[21:54] <mgolisch> both support vdpau for example
[21:54] <mgolisch> which gstreamer based players dont
[21:55] <jeffwheeler> I'd like to use my BT computer in a way counter to what it seems most people use BT for. I'd like to use the hands-free features of my phone to talk through my computer's microphone and speakers.
[21:55] <jeffwheeler> I can't seem to find any resources on that, since most software seems to go the other way.
[21:55] <Evelina> ascheel: Thanks, I will give it a try myself. Thanks for helping me out.
[21:55] <smilecdl> hi - can someone help.....I have just installed ubuntu and it picks up my wireless network but I cannot see the outside world (ping returns network not found)
[21:55] <jeffwheeler> That is, where the computer broadcasts to a handsfree headset, etc.
[21:55] <ascheel> No problem, Evelina
[21:56] <syslq78> Evelina :), nice nick
[21:56] <Evelina> slyWhy?
[21:57] <Evelina> syslq78: Why?
[21:57] <syslq78> Evelina, it's just a name of the girl I once knew that's all
[21:58] <Evelina> syslq78: Ok, it's a Swedish name, I think.
[21:58] <Evelina> syslq78: Maybe used world wide.
[21:59] <woodworker> anyone used UNetbooin to create usb bootable ubuntu?
[21:59] <mgolisch> yeah i think i did that once
[22:00] <mgolisch> why not just use the usb startup disk creator thing?
[22:00] <Evelina> woodworker: I think I have done that, maybe not Ubuntu, but other distros. There is a software in Ubuntu 8.10+ to create bootable flash drives.
[22:00] <Evelina> woodworker: As mgolisch said.
[22:00] <mgolisch> that is if you allready have ubuntu or can boot the livecd on some comp temporarely to create the usb boot thumb drive
[22:00] <Klowny> do i want gtk 1 or 2 as far as gnome-looks.org is concerned?
[22:00] <mneptok> !info usb-creator
[22:00] <woodworker> evelina:  I have seen some of this...... but I am not running ubuntu
[22:01] <mneptok> woodworker: this channel is for questions relating to Ubuntu. not general Linux support.
[22:01] <Evelina> woodworker: Ok, I have used Unetbootin a couple of times.
[22:01] <mgolisch> woodworker: you can just boot the livecd and do it from there or boot it in a virtualisation software
[22:01] <mgolisch> thats how i did it the last times
[22:01] <ramouryan> can any help me with swap partition
[22:02] <velcroshooz> following a howto for cpu scaling, wants me to go to gconf-editor under gnome-power-manager, and the heading 'cpufreq' under that. its not listed. what gives?
[22:02] <woodworker> evelina: is there anything to doing this?
[22:02] <jaymuhz> evening
[22:02] <mneptok> velcroshooz: alt-f2 > gconf-editor
[22:02] <woodworker> mgolisch:  I have only been able to figure out how to burn an image disc and not a livecd
[22:02] <velcroshooz> mneptok: k
[22:03] <tyler_d> I cannot change my ulimit to 8192 for my user, it produces an open file error?
[22:03] <syslq78> It would be a kickass feature if ubuntu installer would allow me to customize packages like the thing fedora has
[22:03] <mgolisch> tyler_d: what produces that error?
[22:03] <velcroshooz> mneptok: i can get into it fine cpufreq is just not listed uner gnome-power-manager
[22:03] <Okay> I'm trying to install vlc using ppa?
[22:04] <ramouryan> swap help pls
[22:04] <jaymuhz> i have a small problem, basically, i just installed the PPC version of Jaunty on an old powerbook, I need to get wifi working by installing the b43-fwcutter package, problem is, I don't have a wired connection. so I can't apt-get it, and I can't find a PPC .deb anywhere on the web
[22:04] <tyler_d> ulimit -n 8192
[22:04] <dask> bonsoir a tous
[22:04] <jaymuhz> anyone know where to look?
[22:04] <mneptok> !ask > ramouryan
[22:04] <losher> velcroshooz: are you sure your cpu supports the feature?
[22:04] <velcroshooz> losher: yes, very
[22:04] <Socah> jaymuhz, wait a sec
[22:04] <mgolisch> jaymuhz: download it from the repo?
[22:04] <losher> velcroshooz: ok, then I'll shut up now...
[22:05] <tyler_d> mgolisch: ulimit -n 8192
[22:05] <jaymuhz> mgolisch: do you know the PPC repo address?
[22:06] <mgolisch> jaymuhz: look in your sources.list?
[22:06] <Socah> jaymuhz, I think google could help you, or see your source.list in ur ppc ubuntu
[22:07] <mgolisch> the archive.ubuntu.com severs dont have anything but i386 and amd64
[22:07] <mgolisch> so it must be alternate servers
[22:07] <velcroshooz> Okay, how about this one, anyone else running jaunty 9.04 64bit with the 185 nvidia 64 bit driver? im getting OpenGL errors in Quake 4 because the 32 bit compatibility layer isnt installed/linked correctly, anyone know a fix for this?
[22:07] <ramouryan> i need to create partition i already have 4 partitions .. a ubuntu ext3 ,a swap,xp ntfs , a compaq files partition.............. i have lot of unpartitioned space of abot 100gb which i want make it as a new partition............ but i cant make more than 4 partitions .............. can any one help me put???????
[22:07] <jaymuhz> I didn't find anything, but yeh, i forgot about source.list, thanks
[22:07] <jaymuhz> gimme a sec, i'll tell you if it works
[22:07] <syslq78> ulimit? I can set restrictions to users such as quotas and process limitations for users?
[22:07] <LordLandon> ramouryan: delete the swap
[22:08] <LordLandon> ramouryan: then make extended partitions
[22:08] <syslq78> That was a question
[22:08] <Okay> I want to install vlc 1.00, so how do i use ppa or that stuff and the keys needed?
[22:08] <ramouryan> LordLandon : if i delete will there not be any problem ??
[22:08] <mgolisch> syslq78: yes, you can limit lots of stuff, like opened filehandles, processes and other stuff
[22:08] <syslq78> mgolisch, thanks
[22:09] <LordLandon> ramouryan: you can make another swap partition, but extended instead of primary.
[22:09] <syslq78> mgolisch, that's bash builtin I guess since it's no man page for it
[22:09] <Socah> Okay, find a ppa repository with vlc, and all needed informations you will find on their site
[22:09] <velcroshooz> Okay: i followed this worked fine - http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-install-vlc-10-from-ubuntu-ppa.html
[22:09] <Okay> Socah, it also says to "install" the key?
[22:09] <jaymuhz> ports.ubuntu.com =]
[22:09] <jaymuhz> ty
[22:10] <Socah> Okay, yes, it is
[22:10] <Okay> just doing sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 7613768D is enough though right
[22:10] <ramouryan> LordLandon : ok if i make new swap partition how can i make the os to recognise it
[22:10] <mgolisch> syslq78: yeah i think it is
[22:10] <velcroshooz> Okay: yes, thats all you do on commandline to add a key
[22:10] <Radtoo> ramouryan: /etc/fstab has it.
[22:10] <Socah> Okay, you can just open key file in browser, copy content, save as file.key, and open with app source manager, import key - all done
[22:11] <Socah> that's what I do, if I don't remember commands
[22:11] <ramouryan> Radtoo: i need to change  /etc/fstab file after making new swap parttition ???
[22:11] <syslq78> Socah, there is apropos :)
[22:11] <Nazaroo> anyone have step by step info on hooking up wireless IBM card?
[22:11] <Socah> syslq78, yes?
[22:12] <Radtoo> ramouryan: yes, just add it there so it gets used for certain.
[22:12] <syslq78> Socah, if you dont remember commands I mean
[22:12] <eshi> is there a reason a ppa repos would be ignored after being added manually?
[22:12] <Socah> ah, yea ;)
[22:12] <Jasur> Is anybody from Asia
[22:12] <syslq78> eshi yeah if you didnt updated it
[22:12] <syslq78> eshi, aptitude update I think
[22:12] <eshi> it was updated
[22:12] <syslq78> eshi, than no
[22:12] <syslq78> eshi, commented?
[22:12] <eshi> well actually i should say update is ignoring it as well
[22:12] <dragon_> Jasur: is that in relation to Ubuntu?
[22:12] <ramouryan> Radtoo : by chance if iam not able to boot the system what should i do??
[22:13] <syslq78> eshi than it's probably commented by mistake
[22:13] <eshi> naw it's not commented
[22:13] <velcroshooz> eshi: its commented out, or incorrect syntax
[22:13] <syslq78> ramouryan, pray
[22:13] <eshi> alright i'll check the syntax again to make sure and ty both
[22:13] <syslq78> ramouryan any messages?
[22:13] <Jasur> hi dracon
[22:14] <Radtoo> ramouryan: uuh... that depends on what is preventing it from booting. its not swap or the lack thereof though, very likely.
[22:14] <ramouryan> syslq78 , nice sugestion thankyou
[22:14] <Okay> so everytime I want a newer version of something, I just do the ppa thing and add those repositories into the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[22:14] <ramouryan> Radtoo : so if there is no swap also system will work ??
[22:14] <syslq78> ramouryan, I was joking, you get any messages while trying to boot, do you get into boot loader?
[22:15] <Okay> and then use the same sudo command to update them?
[22:15] <velcroshooz> Okay: pretty much, find the ppa, add it to sources, add gpg key, sudo apt-get update, done
[22:15] <lacita> I can't figure out why my network:/// will only show 5 of the 40 computers connected to it. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 with the 9.04 upgrade on a Lenovo T3000 laptop.
[22:15] <ramouryan> syslq78 : i havent yet tried ....... i am trying it now
[22:15] <syslq78> mhm
[22:15] <Radtoo> ramouryan: yes, thats correct.
[22:15] <lolo> quit
[22:16] <syslq78> Btw how do you list all computers on network with ubuntu/linux witout using portscan?
[22:16] <Okay> what about firefox 3.5? I heard you can't use it till ubuntu 9.10
[22:16] <ramouryan> Radtoo : can you tell me how to add new swap file to fstab
[22:16] <velcroshooz> Okay: its in the standard repos right now
[22:16] <lacita> syslq78: check your network manager under places
[22:17] <ianm_> is there an ubuntu/linux channel for blind users?
[22:17] <dragon_> !pm > Jasur
[22:17] <Radtoo> syslq78: depends very much on how these computers may be announcing themselves to the network... if they do.
[22:17] <Okay> velcroshooz, it's funny how it's called shiretoko though
[22:17] <Radtoo> syslq78: the only generic way really is a portscan tho.
[22:17] <syslq78> aha
[22:17] <syslq78> thanks
[22:17] <velcroshooz> Okay: thats just the codename for it, not just the beta. i dont understand why either.
[22:17] <ned> is there a way to use the locatedb to find the largest say 10 files on the system?
[22:18] <lacita> syslq78: check your network manager under places
[22:18] <lacita> I can't figure out why my network:/// will only show 5 of the 40 computers connected to it. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 with the 9.04 upgrade on a Lenovo T3000 laptop.
[22:18] <syslq78> lacita, I need it for script
[22:18] <Jasur>  hi ubottu can you send one more time
[22:18] <syslq78> lacita, something like net show in windows
[22:18] <lacita> syslq78: oh.
[22:18] <gogeta> !bot
[22:18] <gogeta> Jasur: lol
[22:18] <syslq78> lacita, thanks anyway
[22:19] <GreyWanderer> hey there. I'm running icewm, and I don't see any way of configuring icewm's behaviour (i.e. whether the panel hides, etc etc)
[22:19] <GreyWanderer> is there still a configuration program rattling around?
[22:19] <lacita> syslq78: I know there's GUI program that i've sed in the past, bt i can't remember what the name was.
[22:19] <ibeekman> anyone know how to install a login theme from the command line?
[22:19] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: try #icewm
[22:19] <GreyWanderer> I did, it's currently silent.
[22:20] <Jasur> sorry i don't think so
[22:20] <Okay> vlc's not starting up for some reason
[22:20] <lacita> I can't figure out why my network:/// will only show 5 of the 40 computers connected to it. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 with the 9.04 upgrade on a Lenovo T3000 laptop.
[22:20] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: we use xfce gnome and kde no icmwm
[22:20] <lacita> Okay: do a killall, and restart.
[22:20] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: and soon lxde
[22:20] <GreyWanderer> heh. And I'm not sure if xfce will actually do what I want either.
[22:20] <lacita> Okay: or ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:20] <firecrotch> syslq78: icepref maybe?
[22:20] <firecrotch> er
[22:20] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: do what
[22:20] <GreyWanderer> hm. That's a point.
[22:20] <Okay> thanks lacita
[22:21] <ibeekman> does anyone know how to install and choose a login theme from the command line?
[22:21] <marsvolta> hello
[22:21] <syslq78> GreyWanderer, what he was meaning to say is just use desktop enviroment not just window manager
[22:21] <firecrotch> GreyWanderer: icepref myabe
[22:21] <marsvolta> geeeks
[22:21] <syslq78> firecrotch, will try thanks
[22:21] <dragon_> !dontzap | lacita
[22:21] <lacita> Okay: or ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:21] <ibeekman> Is it true that I can install it by unpacking the login theme tarball under /usr/share/gdm/themes/  ?
[22:21] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: what can icewm do none else can lol
[22:22] <GreyWanderer> gogeta: what I want is: (1) hide the panel, and (2) when I start up a particular program, have the ability to totally fullscreen that program, i.e. no decorations, the window taking up the full screen.
[22:22] <dragon_> lacita, Okay: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace has been disabled in Ubuntu
[22:22] <Okay> i just did another update for the "fail to recognize distribution" and it works now
[22:22] <GreyWanderer> kde can do it. Metacity can sort of do it if I manually resize/reposition after window creation.
[22:22] <lacita> dragon_: I do it all the time...
[22:22] <ibeekman> anyone familiar with changing the login screen from the command line?
[22:22] <GreyWanderer> icewm can resize/reposition, like Metacity, but I want to hide the panel.
[22:23] <dragon_> lacita: Either you're running and older version of Ubuntu, or you enabled it manually.
[22:23] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: you like the right click menu
[22:23] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: that is a icewm thing
[22:23] <dragon_> ibeekman: what kind of change?
[22:23] <GreyWanderer> gogeta: on what? desktop or panel?
[22:23] <ibeekman> dragon_: change the theme, and install a new theme
[22:23] <GreyWanderer> because on the panel, there's nothing related to preferences.
[22:23] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: on icewm you rrighr click for your menu
[22:24] <smilecdl> any hints on connecting through a wireless?  I am logged onto my network (well it accepted the name and the key) but I cannot actually send or receive any packets
[22:24] <gogeta> right
[22:24] <lacita> I can't figure out why my network:/// will only show 5 of the 40 computers connected to it. Any sggestions wold be welcome
[22:24] <Xubuntnoob> lets say when i type 'ls' and i get a list of files in my directory, i have lots of files that are very very long, and i'd like to manipulate their names, is there a way i can put a switch or something on the ls command to put a number to the file list so i could then type mv 'x' where x=some number?
[22:24] <Xubuntnoob> does that even make sense?
[22:24] <velcroshooz> Okay, how about this one, anyone else running jaunty 9.04 64bit with the 185 nvidia 64 bit driver? im getting OpenGL errors in Quake 4 because the 32 bit compatibility layer isnt installed/linked correctly, anyone know a fix for this?
[22:24] <GreyWanderer> and right-click on the desktop brings up the same as the <Start> button.
[22:25] <zenlunatic> Xubuntnoob, not easy for a noob.  you might want to man sed man awk
[22:25] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: i belve iceprefs is what you whant
[22:25] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: just run it if you cant find it
[22:25] <dragon_> Xubuntnoob: you should consider using the Tab key for auto-completion.
[22:25] <darnell> Does anyone know of a reasonably priced Linux compatible printer/copier/scanner?
[22:25] <dragon_> !wifi | smilecdl
[22:26] <syslq78> Xubuntnoob, you want to rename files by appending them sequence number?
[22:26] <ibeekman> Any thoughts dragon_ ?
[22:26] <Okay> so if we keep adding repositories into the /etc/apt/sources.list, do we ever need to edit it when it becomes bloated?
[22:26] <gogeta> darnell: linux is  comoatble with alot of printers
[22:27] <deany> darnell, I have an epson sx400 all in one that works nice
[22:27] <gogeta> darnell: i prefer kodec printers cost a bit more but there ink is cheap
[22:27] <Xubuntnoob> syslq78 - yea ( i think)  ---> ls -sequence  yields file1=1 file2=2 etc... so then i could type mv (sequence#1) /home/user/short.file.name
[22:27] <theTroy> can please anyone tell me how to write the :   echo "a !bg 'cd" / !cf' "  so that it will give me the : a !bg 'cd" / !cf'   ? and please could you check it in terminal before telling me the answer :(
[22:27] <losher> Xubuntnoob: if you do ls > /tmp/t then the names will go into the file /tmp/t. Then you can edit /tmp/t and on each line put mv <original-long-name> <new-short-name>. When you're satisfied with the file, you can run it as a script and all the mv commands you've written will get executed....
[22:27] <gogeta> darnell: so in the end you save
[22:27] <dragon_> ibeekman: couldn't find one.
[22:28] <GreyWanderer> darn. Apparently it's referred to, but there's no installation candidate.
[22:28] <darnell> Gogeta/Deaney thanks much
[22:28] <GreyWanderer> and thank you for the suggestion, by the way.
[22:28] <GreyWanderer> If icewm doesn't work out, I may even have to look at something as light as fluxbox...
[22:29] <GreyWanderer> problem is, limited memory, and hoggy programs.
[22:29] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: lxde
[22:29] <syslq78> GreyWanderer, how much of memory do you have?
[22:29] <GreyWanderer> 256Mb.
[22:29] <Ahadiel> GreyWanderer, Openbox is nice aswell
[22:29] <lacita> I can't figure out why my network:/// will only show 5 of the 40 computers connected to it. Any sggestions wold be welcome
[22:29] <GreyWanderer> so I hear.
[22:29] <mneptok> OpenBox++
[22:29] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: http://www.lxde.org/
[22:29] <syslq78>  GreyWanderer lxde or xfce should run ok on that and it's full desktop enivroment
[22:30] <GreyWanderer> I know. I've got xfce here but I think it needs tweaking.
[22:30] <gogeta> xfce is to blouted these days
[22:30] <gogeta> bloted
[22:30] <Xubuntnoob> losher - that sounds interesting, -for a different project i want to work on maybe, how could i do something like that where spaces are a problem? such as my music files, from windows rips the tracks all have spaces, how could i use a script like that but 'escape the space'
[22:31] <Xubuntnoob> in the least time consuming / tedious manner
[22:31] <GreyWanderer> hm. Time I reset this irssi screen.
[22:31] <losher> Xubuntnoob: just enclose the filename with single quotes e.g. 'my file name.mp3' and the spaces won't be a problem
[22:31] <mneptok> gogeta: "bloated"
[22:31] <Xubuntnoob> ah yes
[22:31] <gogeta> mneptok: heh
[22:32] <velcroshooz> Okay, how about this one, anyone else running jaunty 9.04 64bit with the 185 nvidia 64 bit driver? im getting OpenGL errors in Quake 4 because the 32 bit compatibility layer isnt installed/linked correctly, anyone know a fix for this?
[22:32] <GreyWanderer> hey ho.
[22:32] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: if you relly wnna go light wight ust use xinit
[22:32] <gogeta> heh
[22:32] <GreyWanderer> gogeta: well, I did seriously think of that.
[22:32] <losher> Xubuntnoob: just noticed the 'least time consuming' postscript. In that case, I would use the rename command to change all the spaces to dashes. I think you can do that in a one-liner...
[22:32] <puff> Hey, is it possible to print to a PDF from firefox?
[22:32] <nztal> GreyWanderer, i realize this is a ubuntu support channel, though you were speaking of too bloated de's i discovered a distro based on ubuntu minimal install, using openbox de, that was somewhat rather nice, it seems like it would work well on low end hardware, its called crunchbang (i hope thats not against channel rules) their latest version uses jaunty sources.  of course, anything further, you would have to google for their support channel
[22:33] <GreyWanderer> After all, I wanted to start SecondLife as just the pure client, no other programs.
[22:33] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: but lxde looks alot like gnome but lighter then xfce
[22:33] <syslq78> puff yeah all you need is pdf "printer" and you just print
[22:33] <GreyWanderer> heh.
[22:33] <dragon_> theTroy: these docs might help: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Quoting
[22:33] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: look at the screens
[22:34] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: they even have there own netbook remix lxlauncher
[22:34] <puff> syslq78: How do I set that up?  I've gotta web page up in firefox that I had to pay to get, state driver's history for a friend, and I need to print it for him so he can take it into the DMV and argue with them.
[22:34] <theTroy> dragon_ I am aware of that, but it just doenst work
[22:34] <theTroy> dragon_   echo "a \!bg" gives a \!bg and not a !bg
[22:34] <syslq78> puff well the really simple way is to make a screen shoot and print that
[22:35] <puff> Good pooint.
[22:35] <syslq78> puff but otherwise print to ps and use ps2pdf
[22:35] <nztal> puff, you should save that webpage to a file, before its lost, then worry about printing.  seeing as you paid for it
[22:35] <syslq78> puff, first way you dont set anything up
[22:35] <syslq78> nztal, :)
[22:35] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: you can go fs on xninit as well alt enter on most apps or f11 on firefox
[22:35] <GreyWanderer> heh.
[22:35] <mneptok> theTroy: you do not have to escape inside quotes. and usually you use single quotes.
[22:35] <Okay> this is what I get when trying to update transmission to 1.72---"checking for OpenSSL... configure: error: Cannot locate ssl"
[22:35] <GreyWanderer> Anyhow, how do I fullscreen an app on xinit with no WM ?
[22:36] <Okay> then it just stops working when I try ./configure
[22:36] <GreyWanderer> Alt-enter is a WM-support thing.
[22:36] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: as i said alt enter is the fs hotkey for most apps
[22:36] <mneptok> Okay: why are you compiling?
[22:36] <theTroy> mneptok if I use single quotes, I cannot do the ' a !a 'a a' to get the a !a 'a a
[22:36] <Okay> mneptok, i want version 1.72
[22:36] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: f11 firefox
[22:36] <GreyWanderer> with no wm running, there's no ALt-enter for SOME programs (namely, twin and a couple of others)
[22:36] <Xubuntnoob> this is probably getting way over my head, but is there a way in the      mv <long file with spaces> where space = true <escape space> < add _ or .>  /working/directory/long_file_with_spaces ??
[22:36] <puff> nztal: I've saved it, but I seem to recall it didn't get through save/reload very well the last time I had to deal with it, and since he's going to be dealing with burueacrats...
[22:36] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: f11 is normaly the other hotkey
[22:37] <gogeta> pidgin etc
[22:37] <syslq78> puff, cups-pdf
[22:37] <Ramonster> could anyone explain to me what -lcompat is?
[22:37] <GreyWanderer> I do: mv "file with spaces" $(echo "file with spaces" | sed 's/ /_/')
[22:37] <Okay> mneptok, I shouldn't be compiling then?
[22:38] <Ramonster> configure:16633: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -Wall -fno-strict-alias$
[22:38] <Ramonster> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcompat
[22:38] <Ramonster>  is in my config log, but what is lcompat?
[22:38] <syslq78> 2
[22:38] <mneptok> Okay: never
[22:38] <mneptok> Okay: https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt-nightly/+archive/ppa
[22:38] <GreyWanderer> I'm out of here anyhow. Thanks all.
[22:38] <gogeta> GreyWanderer: isnt it mv file\ file is you have a space lol
[22:39] <losher> Ramonster: it is a C compatibility library. I forget what it's for. You need to find its package and install it...
[22:39] <Okay> mneptok, why is compiling not good? because there's already a stable version of 1.72 already?
[22:39] <Xubuntnoob> greywanderer - and that i'm assuming would work in a script like losher was describing?
[22:39] <Ramonster> losher.. what is its package? any chance you know?
[22:39] <fifitixibelle> why is copying files to an sd card (ext3) so slow? says it will take over 2 hours to copy a 5mb file and then returns an error saying unable to copy.
[22:40] <mneptok> Okay: because Ubuntu has a package system that should be used whenever possible. compiling is going to potentially break things.
[22:40] <gogeta> mneptok: not relly as long as he compiles it as a deb first befor installing it should not confflict
[22:40] <Ramonster> losher: what is its package? any chance you know?
[22:41] <Okay> mneptok, I'm at this page. http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-nightly/ppa/ubuntu/
[22:41] <KalebsRevenge> hey any1 managed to get SWScanner working on gnome?
[22:41] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all
[22:41] <deany> mneptok, compiling installs to /usr/local and the apt system installs to /usr
[22:41] <losher> Ramonster: I don't see it in 8.04. what is it you're trying to build?
[22:42] <CrAzYoNi> I'm working with Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 32 bit, I configured my wireless via GNOME, X11 GUI.
[22:42] <Okay> I have x86 and jaunty. So after clicking those, I'm at main/ ,multiverse/, restricted/, and universe/
[22:42] <Okay> which one do i pick?
[22:42] <deany> mneptok, /usr/local even if you make it a deb first.  that way it shouldnt break the packaging system.
[22:42] <mneptok> !compile
[22:42] <mneptok> this is the channel best practice policy. please do not argue about it.
[22:43] <mneptok> Okay: choose the release and platform you use.
[22:43] <ramouryan> i did create new swap partition ....... but how can i know it is being used or not??
[22:43] <CrAzYoNi> While I'm stopping the "Networking" service on tty & try to ping my router I've getting communication, how come?? As I understand the "Networking" service should enable or disable all network communications.. though I'm seem to be missing here some details... please help me :)
[22:43] <mneptok> Okay: append the 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:43] <jrib> ramouryan: swapon -s
[22:43] <Ramonster> losher: trying to setup a world of warcraft private server - could It be i need the glibc-doc package?
[22:43] <KalebsRevenge> should gksudo swscanner %f work?
[22:43] <felix_> saludos
[22:43] <deany> well Ive had no problems...
[22:44] <Okay> mneptok, I'm on this page now. Do i download one of those? http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-nightly/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/universe/binary-i386/
[22:44] <felix_> hi everyone
[22:44] <mneptok> Okay: no
[22:44] <mneptok> Okay: choose the release and platform you use.
[22:44] <det_> hi you back
[22:44] <mneptok> Okay: append the 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:44] <losher> Ramonster: that's a documentation package. You're missing a library, so no, that won't fix it. Which OS are you running?
[22:44] <mneptok> Okay: do you see the 2 lines for sources?
[22:44] <Ramonster> losher: Ubuntu 9.04
[22:44] <Okay> ohh, mneptok the main page you linked to me right?
[22:44] <det_> distro in linux world
[22:45] <mneptok> Okay: which release of Ubuntu do you use?
[22:45] <ramouryan> how to add new swap partition??
[22:45] <Okay> jaunty jackalope
[22:45] <syslq78> Will installing vlc 1.0.0 upgrade my package I have installed from ubuntu repo?
[22:45] <losher> Ramonster: I'm running 8.04 so I can't check the same repos as you. You need to find someone who compiles on 9.04....
[22:45] <jtr> hello what does [phy0] proccess do?
[22:45] <Okay> mneptok, i think i got it now
[22:45] <theraptor> anyone know a program that will let me play songs backwards?
[22:45] <det_> ramouryan, have you tried gparted?
[22:45] <mneptok> Okay: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-nightly/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main  <<< add that to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:45] <smilecdl> fixed my network problem
[22:46] <Lenaud01> anyone ever use Synce?
[22:46] <Agion> (23:24:07) Agi: hi, would anyone want to help me configure my X? for now it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m473f9eac
[22:46] <Lenaud01> tryed there room but no one is around
[22:46] <Ramonster> losher: Allright, thank you for your time
[22:46] <det_> ramouryan, .. you just need to make room for it (twice the size of your RAM is usually recommended)
[22:46] <Okay> mneptok, what's the deb-src do?
[22:46] <sam_> Hi. When I upgraded to Jaunty, I lost the use of my digital coax. I have an nVidia MCP61. Done a lot of searching and have run alsa-info.sh. Anyone around who can help me get it going again?
[22:46] <stroyan> Ramonster: apt-file search libcompat shows    dietlibc: /usr/lib/diet/lib/libcompat.so  and dietlibc-dev: /usr/lib/diet/lib/libcompat.a
[22:46] <mneptok> Okay: that's for the source code package
[22:46] <smilecdl> need to switch wireless mode to infrastructure
[22:46] <mneptok> Okay: you will not need that if you just want to run the app
[22:46] <KalebsRevenge> need help with SWScanner help?!?
[22:47] <smilecdl> and IPv4 setting to DHCP automatic
[22:47] <losher> theraptor: funnily enough, windows cooledit pro (now adobe something) used to allow you to reverse audio. Dunno if any linux audio packages do...
[22:47] <ramouryan> det_ : i tried and made new swap partition but unable mount it or format it as linux-swap... even after formating it it is showing file system unknown
[22:47] <smilecdl> gotta go thanks
[22:47] <Ramonster> stroyan: what does that mean?
[22:47] <puff> syslq78: cups-pdf?
[22:47] <puff> syslq78:  Is that a package?
[22:47] <det_> ramouryan, could ya post the resulf of "sudo fdisk -l" in pastebin?
[22:48] <mneptok> Okay: tell me when you have edited sources.list
[22:48] <kk_> hi I want to install a plasmoid
[22:48] <kk_> where is the $KDEDIR ?
[22:48] <jrib> kk_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:48] <stroyan> Ramonster: The gcc -lcompat error indicates a need for libcompat.so or libcompat.a.  Those dietlibc and dietlibc-dev packages provide those library files, (and header files).
[22:49] <losher> Ramonster: it means you need to try 'sudo apt-get install dietlibc-dev' and see if your problem goes away
[22:49] <kk_> jrib, Im following this: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/GettingStarted
[22:49] <Okay> mneptok, okay. I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-nightly/ppa/ubuntu" to the end and saved
[22:49] <Spirits-Sight> is there any slim winxp that I can run on ubuntu (I do hold a xp licence) ?  I don't want a full blown version as I just need it so I can do a update to my cell phone and thats it to HardSPL???
[22:49] <kk_> oh
[22:49] <Ramonster> stroyan: thanks
[22:49] <kk_> jrib, sorry solved :D
[22:49] <Ramonster> losher: thanks
[22:49] <mneptok> Okay: in a terminal, paste - sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 22202A6B
[22:50] <deany> theraptor, audacity and the reverse effect.
[22:50] <theraptor> thanks
[22:50] <theraptor> ill try that
[22:50] <Okay> mneptok, just curious, where did you get that command from? on the website I was on?
[22:50] <mneptok> Okay: yes
[22:50] <Slart> Spirits-Sight: not sure if there is a slim version..but the regular xp works nicely in a vm...
[22:50] <mneptok> Okay: done?
[22:51] <ramouryan> det_:http://pastebin.com/d174282ae
[22:51] <Slart> Spirits-Sight: I use it to run my scanner software for example
[22:51] <Okay> mneptok, it's still working
[22:51] <deany> theraptor, works because I just tested it on ozzy`s "bloodbath in paradise" .. apparently my mother sells whelks in hull, :)  and i`m from hull as well :)
[22:51] <mneptok> Okay: keyserver.ubuntu.com can be slow
[22:51] <theraptor> thanks
[22:52] <theraptor> im trying it on stairway to heaven
[22:52] <mneptok> deany: London 0 | Hull 4
[22:52] <losher> Spirits-Sight: the update app may work in wine. Failing that, you'll need a full XP install into an emulator like vbox. Beware that some apps may brick your phone if they malfunction....
[22:52] <syslq78> theraptor, Zeppelin fan?
[22:52] <syslq78> theraptor, are you an old hack ?
[22:52] <det_> ramouryan, it seems you have 5 partitions on the same hard drive, am I correct?
[22:53] <theraptor> not old xD
[22:53] <Okay> mneptok, okay I ran sudo apt-get update
[22:53] <mneptok> Okay: sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:53] <mneptok> Okay: and you will get a nightly version of Transmission
[22:53] <syslq78> theraptor, ah, so you only have a good taste for music than
[22:53] <theraptor> yeah
[22:53] <mneptok> Okay: and you will continue to get nightly builds via the package system
[22:53] <Okay> mneptok, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[22:53] <det_> ramouryan, I don't know, how you have managed to do so but the max. limit for partitions is 4 for a single had drive
[22:54] <det_> hard*
[22:54] <ramouryan> det_ :: one of them is extended partition
[22:54] <Slart> ramouryan: for *primary* partitions
[22:54] <det_> ramouryan, just one?
[22:54] <Okay> mneptok, I checked and it's still 1.51
[22:54] <Slart> ramouryan: sorry.. was meant for det_
[22:54] <losher> ramouryan: good. Now you can add new partitions inside the extended partition...
[22:54] <Spirits-Sight> losher or Slart could you tell me more of how to do this please?  does ubuntu have vm already built in?  please PM me so I can follow iwht out all the other stuff interfering with me being able to read.  I am blind its a little hard to follow help in here
[22:54] <det_> Slart, that's what I ment :)
[22:54] <mneptok> Okay: you did not use the quotes (" ") in /etc/apt/sources.list, did you?
[22:54] <Slart> Spirits-Sight: no worries
[22:55] <Okay> mneptok, let me recheck
[22:55] <Okay> mneptok, nope, no quotes
[22:55] <ramouryan> det_:/sda2 is extended .. init ihave /sda5 partition which is swap
[22:55] <losher> Slart: can 3 of us join a single PM?
[22:55] <det_> ramouryan, I don't think it helps that you'd have 4 primary partitions and 1 extended
[22:56] <Slart> losher, Spirits-Sight we can create a new channel
[22:56] <Slart> losher, Spirits-Sight: join #spirit
[22:56] <chris_lenz123> !sound
[22:56] <losher> Slart: oh, right...
[22:56] <det_> you should have only 3 primary partitions and 1 extended with multiple partitions
[22:56] <DamiaN> e booo
[22:57] <mneptok> Okay: apt-cache search transmission torrent
[22:57] <mneptok> Okay: do you see "transmissionbt" or "transmission-nightly" or something?
[22:57] <det_> ramouryan, I myself have 2 linux distros and vista - which makes just 3 partitions
[22:57] <losher> Spirits-Sight: are you still there?
[22:57] <Okay> mneptok, no, everything looks fine
[22:58] <Okay> mneptok, transmission-common - lightweight BitTorrent client (common files)
[22:58] <Okay> transmission-gtk - lightweight BitTorrent client (graphical interface)
[22:58] <Okay> transmission - lightweight BitTorrent client
[22:58] <Okay> transmission-cli - lightweight BitTorrent client (command line interface)
[22:58] <Okay> transmission-daemon - lightweight BitTorrent client (daemon)
[22:58] <FloodBot3> Okay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <mneptok> Okay: only a "transmission" and related packages?
[22:58] <GutClusters> Anybody in here familiar with Cacti?
[22:58] <techbw> hi anyone know of a decent point of sales solution (cash register) for ubuntu, I have been searching online, and found restaurant pos software but no retail software.
[22:59] <fccf> techbw: I know of is4c / fannie ... it was designed for grocery stores ... lots of plu's
[22:59] <mneptok> Okay: ah, i see the problem
[23:00] <mneptok> Okay: you need "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-nightly/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main" (no quotes) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:00] <th0r> techbw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87743
[23:00] <det_> ramouryan, how much you got RAM?
[23:00] <mneptok> Okay: you left off the "jaunty main" bit
[23:00] <puff> Hm, I installed cups-pdf and it created a PDF printer, but when I print to printer PDF, where does the output file show up?
[23:00] <techbw> thanks, much appreciated...is it open source?
[23:00] <fccf> techbw: I think so ... search
[23:00] <ramouryan> det_/dev/sda1--ext3,/dev/sda3--ntfs -- these two are os partitions ubuntu and xp respectively.........../dev/sda2 -extended -- this one has sda5 -linux swap,sda6&7 -fat32 ... /dev/sda4 -- unknown it has compaq files
[23:01] <mneptok> puff: ~/PDF
[23:01] <ramouryan> det_:: ram is 4gb
[23:01] <mneptok> ramouryan: an MSDOS disklabel only supports 4 partitions, including extended.
[23:01] <Okay> mneptok, it's still 1.51
[23:02] <deany> extended is always sda4
[23:02] <mneptok> Okay: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:02] <deany> so the first logical partition is sda5
[23:02] <det_> ramouryan, you have sda6 and 7? the pastebin result only shows sda1-5
[23:02] <ramouryan> i have only four
[23:02] <puff> mneptok: Ah, thanks, had to create ~/PDF for it to print to.
[23:02] <Okay> mneptok, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:02] <deany> or thats how its always been with me
[23:02] <puff> I really need to code up a version of my aptwiki idea.
[23:02] <det_> ramouryan, and if you got 4gb ram, you won't need swap, not with linux. are you even running x86_64?
[23:02] <mohammed510> I have a question
[23:03] <mohammed510> I want to know how to make abootable usb
[23:03] <mohammed510> I have an ISO for linux and a flash memory
[23:03] <det_> mohammed510, you need to burn the image to it
[23:03] <ramouryan> det_:http://pastebin.com/m25be7d78
[23:03] <Okay> mneptok, it has     *   0 source packages (0 bytes)
[23:03] <Okay>     * 0 binary packages (0 bytes)
[23:03] <Okay>     * Estimated repository size: 0 bytes (0.00%) of 1.0 GiB
[23:03] <mneptok> Okay: maybe bortis is not building to his PPA
[23:03] <mohammed510> det_ : I am not talking about CDs
[23:03] <mneptok> Okay: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bortis/+archive/ppa/+build/1086247/+files/transmission_1.72-0ubuntu0~jaunty0_all.deb  <--- install that with dpkg
[23:04] <mohammed510> det_ : I am talking about flash memories
[23:04] <det_> mohammed510, me too
[23:04] <mneptok> mohammed510: sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[23:04] <catharcyst> update manager asks for password. says my root password is wrong. ubuntu karmic
[23:04] <ramouryan> det_:: i dont  known if its x86_64 or not !!
[23:04] <det_> ramouryan, where did those two partitions come from?
[23:04] <Okay> mneptok, Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: transmission-cli (>= 1.72-0ubuntu0~jaunty0)
[23:04] <techbw> th0r: thnx found tuxshop from that link.
[23:04] <det_> ramouryan, I mean are you running 32-bit or 64-bit?
[23:05] <Slart> catharcyst: ubuntu doesn't use a root password.. use your user password
[23:05] <ramouryan> det_:: its 32 bit
[23:05] <Slart> catharcyst: and karmic support is in #ubuntu+1
[23:05] <catharcyst> slart it does not work
[23:05] <det_> ramouryan, there you go :). well the max. RAM is still about 3.3gb so that's not gonna end
[23:05] <catharcyst> Slart ok
[23:05] <RandomTime> I hate the fact that there's no root at all for ubuntu, horrible idea
[23:06] <BCM431> The other users cant use sound on my computer. they get the error audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.You don't have permission to open the device. Why is this?
[23:06] <jrib> RandomTime: you are misinformed.  Why do you have that opinion?
[23:06] <mneptok> Okay: so try bortis' main PPA - deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:06] <Slart> RandomTime: root is there.. there just isn't a root password.. and I actually think it's a good idea.. what do you feel is bad about it?
[23:06] <clearzen> RandomTime: then set a root password if it bothers you that much
[23:06] <det_> ramouryan, the rest of your RAM will be shared with your graphics card
[23:06] <RandomTime> Prehaps I will
[23:06] <Slart> !supportroot | clearzen
[23:06] <mneptok> Okay: must go. ~40C in the office. time for siesta.
[23:06] <RandomTime> I probably am misinformed about the root password, but my inner Tux feels safer with one on
[23:07] <clearzen> cool, ok I mean use debian instead
[23:07] <mneptok> RandomTime: sudo -i
[23:07] <ramouryan> idet_ :: i divided extended volume i.e /sda2 into three partitions ..one swap and two fat 32 filesystems
[23:07] <bastidrazor> BCM431, add the users to pulse-rt group
[23:07] <det_> RandomTime, then your distro shouldn't be ubuntu
[23:07] <bucky> RandomTime: there was an opportunity for you to change that during the install.. may have been in the expert install tho
[23:07] <cfedde> it's easy enough to set a root password after the fact.
[23:07] <mneptok> RandomTime: do not set a password, use sudo -i
[23:07] <Okay> mneptok, thanks for all your help. I learned a lot today. :D
[23:08] <mneptok> Okay: np np
[23:08] <cfedde> also no root password is different than a null root password.
[23:08] <RandomTime> bucky: I think it is expert only, I used the live CD default
[23:08] <bucky> RandomTime: expert install was an option at the boot up screen
[23:08] <ramouryan> det_ i am restarting the system
[23:09] <det_> anyone know why my arch opens windows behind other windows?
[23:10] <jrib> det_: arch?
[23:10] <det_> arch (linux)
[23:10] <nztal> det_, wrong channel
[23:10] <det_> nztal, yeah I know, but still
[23:10] <jrib> det_: /join #archlinux
[23:10] <nztal> det_, there is no still
[23:11] <det_> :D
[23:11] <clearzen> det_: there is a gconf-editor that can change the behavior
[23:11] <freax> Anyone knows how to install VLC 1.0.0 on Ubuntu 9.04 (on a PC without internet)?
[23:11] <clearzen> it's a gnome setting i think
[23:11] <det_> I know, I AM using arch
[23:11] <bastidrazor> freax, aptonCD
[23:11] <clearzen> det_: what desktop gnome, kde xfce?
[23:11] <det_> clearzen, gnome
[23:11] <jrib> freax: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[23:12] <det_> clearzen, haven't tested with my xfce though
[23:12] <jrib> freax: (get the deb and install it)
[23:12] <Pici> det_: Then you'll need to ask in #archlinux, NOT here.
[23:12] <clearzen> det_: then the setting is in gconf-editor
[23:12] <bastidrazor> freax, or get the deb..... as jrib said
[23:12] <Pici> clearzen: Please continue in #archlinux
[23:12] <clearzen> det_: but ppl are elitist here so I guess i can't help you
[23:12] <mohammed510> How can I make sure that the ISO I have downloaded have no errors with the gpg check?
[23:13] <freax> jrib: the problem is that there is no single deb... :(
[23:13] <Slart> mohammed510: I would use the checksum..
[23:13] <Slart> !md5 | mohammed510
[23:13] <Okay> anyone know the key for transmission 1.72
[23:13] <jrib> freax: yes there is...
[23:13] <nztal> clearzen, no one is being a elitist here.  they simply are trying to keep order by setting simple rules.
[23:13] <Slart> freax: use the "generate download script" function in synaptic..
[23:14] <chris_lenz123> i cant get sound to work in youtube or any games. I can cat stuff to /dev/dsp and hear it in totem music player, and the totem plugin for firefox, but thats it
[23:14] <chris_lenz123> any help?
[23:14] <jrib> freax: i mean you grab whichever debs you need
[23:14] <jrib> freax: from the ppa
[23:14] <hacktolive> freax: try a SuperDeb I made, it's the easiest way: http://hacktolive.org/superdeb
[23:14] <Zweistein> Hey Leute! Alles Fresh?
[23:14] <Slart> hacktolive: what is a "superdeb"? ... sounds... big =)
[23:14] <Zweistein> Was gibts Neues von Ubuntu?
[23:15] <Okay> anyone know the gpg key for transmission 1.72?
[23:15] <Zweistein> 374-264-985-135
[23:15] <hacktolive> Slart: lots of .deb files + installer script
[23:15] <Slart> hacktolive: nevermind.. I found the FAQ =)
[23:15] <Pici> Okay: What gpg key are you referring to? For a PPA?
[23:15] <Okay> Pici, yeah
[23:15] <Pici> !ppagpg | Okay
[23:15] <Zweistein> Ihr seids mir auch freshe Ubuntus, ihr!
[23:16] <Slart> !de | Zweistein
[23:16] <Evelina> When I resumed my computer I did get the internet address 127.0.0.1 instead of my old and also Link encap: Local Loopback. Why?
[23:16] <Zweistein> Hallejula!
[23:16] <chris_lenz123> TT
[23:16] <Zweistein> Wie gehts euch so?
[23:16] <Slart> Evelina: the loopback address should always be there..
[23:16] <Zweistein> Absolut!
[23:17] <Slart> Evelina: you might not have noticed it before.. but it has probably been there all the time
[23:17] <eka> dat_ are you there??
[23:17] <Zweistein> - Redaktion Biologie -
[23:17] <Slart> Zweistein: english only in this channel..
[23:17] <Zweistein> - Redaktion Chemie -
[23:17] <Evelina> Slart: I get inet addr:127.0.0.1 Before I could see an ip there?
[23:17] <Slart> Zweistein: type  /join #ubuntu-de
[23:17] <abe3k> hi guys, after updating these packages http://pastebin.com/m7efb3065, I started to get choppy sound after reboot, any ideas on what could be causing this ?
[23:17] <gogeta> !de
[23:17] <Zweistein> I was born in Grevenbroich, ihr auch?
[23:17] <Slart> Evelina: it's probably your network card that didn't like the suspend/hibernation
[23:18] <Spirits-Sight> losher
[23:18] <Zweistein> Ne Leute!
[23:18] <nztal> Pici, may i ask you a question in PM ?
[23:18] <Zweistein> - Der Schweizer Verein -
[23:18] <Pici> nztal: sure
[23:18] <Zweistein> No!
[23:18] <Slart> Zweistein: last chance.. english only.
[23:18] <Evelina> Slart: Ok, it did work before.
[23:18] <Spirits-Sight> losher you here? if so I am back
[23:18] <Okay> Pici, I used this one http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ppa/ubuntu
[23:18] <Slart> Evelina: mm.. it's not uncommong for some things to not like hibernation.. have you tried rebooting?
[23:19] <Zweistein> Hey Guys! Whats up with you?
[23:19] <Zweistein> Everything fresh in Scotland?
[23:19] <freax> thanks folks, the VLC SuperDeb worked hassle-free! Thanks!
[23:19] <Pici> Zweistein: This is the Ubuntu support channel, it is an english only channel. Please use #ubuntu-de for German
[23:19] <Zweistein> But I speak doch Englisch!
[23:20] <abe3k> guys, after updating these packages http://pastebin.com/m7efb3065, I started to get choppy sound after reboot, any ideas on what could be causing this ?
[23:20] <eka> det_ are you online??
[23:21] <Zweistein> Whats wrong in Ireland?
[23:21] <Pici> Okay: See the 'signing key' on this page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bortis/+archive/ppa
[23:21] <gogeta> Zweistein: its but i speak english
[23:21] <gogeta> lol
[23:21] <Okay> Pici, how did you find that using the link I gave you?
[23:21] <Pici> Okay: I just know how launchpad does their URLs
[23:22] <melkart> if i am already running a lvm, is it dangerous to open another encrypted partition with lvm volumes in it, by "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdX2 secondlvm"? can i access the data on that other encrypted lvm partition then? or will it destroy data?
[23:22] <abe3k> guys, after updating these packages http://pastebin.com/m7efb3065, I started to get choppy sound after reboot, any ideas on what could be causing this ?
[23:22] <Zweistein> What is Ubuntu eigentlich?
[23:22] <tester_> whats a good gui ftp client for linux ?
[23:23] <gogeta> !de || Zweistein
 PROFTPD
[23:23] <Zweistein> What is Ubuntu ising?
[23:23] <hacktolive> tester_: I use FileZilla
[23:23] <Zweistein> industri at spille en større!
[23:23] <fccf> !ubuntu | Zweistein
[23:24]  * tester_ installs filezilla
[23:24] <Zweistein> meget af rigdommen blev brugt til krigsførelse
[23:24] <mcphail> tester_: for basic things you can use the file manager (nautilus) as well
[23:24] <jdu> I have a somewhat old laptop that I am wanting to turn into one of those moving photo picture frames.  Does anyone know of an image viewer that can achieve the affects those picture frames do and automatedly rotate through albums?
[23:24] <nsadmin> Zweistein: are you a bot?
[23:24] <tester_> nice gui
[23:24] <Evelina> Slart: I'm shuting down the computer right now, doing a cold boot.
[23:24] <nsadmin> please don't msg me
[23:24] <gogeta> ok Pici had enought of that guy yet
[23:24] <Zweistein> forsyninger til de krigsførende lande gav arbejde og indtjening til
[23:24] <tester_> mcphail: im using openbox
[23:24] <Slart> Evelina: that should fix it
[23:24] <Slart> !ops | Zweistein
[23:24] <Okay> Pici, you are a genius!
[23:25] <dAnjou> Slart: this is not german
[23:25] <Zweistein> Støtte til de baltiske lande, udvidelsen af
[23:25] <abe3k> guys, after updating these packages http://pastebin.com/m7efb3065, I started to get choppy sound after reboot, any ideas on what could be causing this ?
[23:25] <dAnjou> Slart: it's danish or something
[23:25] <Zweistein> We are living in Danmark!
[23:25] <Slart> dAnjou: it's Troll.. whatever the language
[23:25] <Evelina> Slart: This isn't any good at all, I was going to use the computer to auto start and then suspend over and over again. Then my network must be able have Internet access each time.-
[23:25] <gogeta> he told him where to go hes being annoying
[23:25] <gogeta> we
[23:25] <dAnjou> scandinavian
[23:25] <bucky> jdu: second hit on google http://www.risacher.org/pfl/
[23:26] <dAnjou> hey, i was right :P
[23:26] <dAnjou> k, bye
[23:26] <gogeta> lol
[23:26] <jdu> bucky: thanks and sorry! for not looking more carefully first. :(
[23:26] <Slart> Evelina: hibernation and suspend can be tricky.. works for some stuff..
[23:27] <puff> Hey, anybodyk now much about the innards of laptop suspend?
[23:27] <puff> Er, hibernate (suspend to disk)?
[23:27] <Evelina> Slart: Not good at all, it did work before, but sometimes it seem to be broken. Not good at all.
[23:27] <bardyr> Hey, where can i find the blueprint/specification template?
[23:28] <Slart> Evelina: I can only agree.. sometimes there can be work arounds.. but the best fix might be to just wait for the next version.. =/
[23:28] <gogeta> puff: suspend can be tricky and not work on some hardware you need a good amount of free space to
[23:28] <nicklas_> !cedega
[23:28] <gogeta> nicklas_: cedega is old news wine plus dx9 = better
[23:29] <bucky> jdu: there's also about 20 other different ones here http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/24/2114206
[23:29] <nicklas_> gogeta: ok? easy to get sims 3, fallout 3 and fear 2 working?
[23:29] <pycal> I've installed 9.04 on a 2gb usb flash drive and loaded successfully, and now I would like to figure out how to load toram, but when I'm booting I am not able to change boot options by pressing tab or f6 - is there something additional I need to do?
[23:29] <gogeta> nicklas_: with wintricks and the dx9 runtime yes they run
[23:29] <nicklas_> gogeta: ok, how you do that?
[23:29] <woodworker> pycal: my boot menu is f2
[23:30] <what_if> I am using 64bit 9.04 ubuntu and have installed flashplugin-nonfree but flash still is not working. Firefox does not see it and neither does konqueror.
[23:30] <jdu> pycal: ubuntu isn't really designed for that kind of thing as well as some other distrobutions are.
[23:30] <gogeta> nicklas_: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[23:30] <Danny> is there a way to change the owner of a directory and all the files inside it?
[23:30] <mcphail> Danny: chmod -R
[23:30] <bastidrazor> Danny, chmod -R newowner foldername/
[23:30] <Monika|K> pycal I think you need to press e for edit
[23:30] <Monika|K> not sure if I remember that correctly
[23:31] <pycal> jdu: do distributions that are better suited to that have the same software available?
[23:31] <th0r> Danny: chown, not chmod
[23:31] <bastidrazor> heh.. yeah chown .. doh
[23:32] <Danny> thanks
[23:32] <Monika|K> chown name:name *
[23:32] <Monika|K> for changing the group at the same time
[23:32] <mcphail> Danny: yeah - oops chown
[23:32] <Monika|K> which by default is the same as the user name
[23:33] <eka> det_ ::swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/10bba910-23f8-41ef-81ee-4917be5d51e2: No such file or directory
[23:33] <nicklas_> gogeta: so, this guide tells me to install latest wine and winetricks, and thats all, after that its good to go?
[23:33] <jdu> pycal: at the moment i'm trying it program's viablility on a better ubuntu box.  Later, when I actually set it up, I'll use something much more light weight  (the laptop is only 300Mhz anyway)
[23:34] <Evelina> Slart: Oh no, I think the network card didn't really connnect to the mobo. :S
[23:35] <CompuHacker> Then how is he h*Evelina blinks out of existance*
[23:35] <Slart> Evelina: ah.. at least that means hibernation might still work
[23:35]  * KalebsRevenge is away: cunts (gone at 14th Jul, 23:35:20)
[23:35] <GnomeKing> Can anyone explain why my USB mouse doesn't work? The trackpad on the laptop works, the usb mouse is recognised by dmesg as a mouse, but it doesn't move the X cursor.  Most websites say xorg.conf should have two mouse sections - but it doesn't have any in my 9.04 yet the trackpad still works?!
[23:35] <Flannel> !away > KalebsReveng`[a]
[23:36] <abe3k> guys, after updating these packages http://pastebin.com/m7efb3065, I started to get choppy sound after reboot, any ideas on what could be causing this ?
[23:37] <neoteny> GnomeKing, now that xorg has changed relatively recently be careful about following old posts about how to edit xorg.conf.
[23:37] <Evelina> Slart: Yeah, hopefully.
[23:37] <GnomeKing> neoteny, I guessed as much - I used to understand it but don't now since its so empty ;) is that info listed somewhere else?
[23:38] <syslq78> Vlc 1.0.0 installation can be done trough updates :)
[23:38] <Socah> What could be reason, that after installing e17, I have no sound in gnome? I discovered that I can only run alsamixer from sudo. What files premissions should I change?
[23:39] <laclasse> Socah, type pulseaudio in a terminal as user
[23:39] <laclasse> in e17. is the sound back ?
[23:40] <Socah> laclasse, pulseaudio is removed, e17 too. Even all alsa, gstreamer packages were purged and reinstalled.
[23:40] <pycal> hey, i'm trying to boot 9.04 toram.  when I'm loading from my 2gb usb flash drive I have options to: run ubuntu persistently, install, boot from first hard drive, and get help. is this possible with my setup?
[23:40] <Socah> my sound was working perfect before e177 laclasse
[23:40] <Socah> laclasse, pulseaudio was showing only null output, 5 minutes ago (when I tried to solve this problem, installing pulse)
[23:41] <syslq78> Is there a software that checks system health, unused libs, tmp files etc...
[23:41] <laclasse> Socah, in gnome, it was working perfect, without pulse audio ?
[23:41] <Socah> laclasse, yes, it was
[23:41] <nightrid3r> !grub
[23:41] <neoteny> GnomeKing, i'm not an expert by any means.  i just know there's a lot different now and time can be wasting applying old posts.  kinda like when kernel 2.6 was new and the only posts i could find to follow were 2.4!  fun times.
[23:41] <v1d4l0k4> People, I'm trying to extract an damaged ISO (legible, but some files are truncated) without success... File-Roller dies with "isoinfo: Short read on old image" error message. There's any other way to extract non-damaged files ignoring these errors?
[23:41] <laclasse> direct ALSA works i guess
[23:41] <GnomeKing> thanks for the warning neoteny :)
[23:41] <edbian> v1d4l0k4: Did you try mounting it?
[23:41] <laclasse> e17 is enlightment ... might still use oss and esd
[23:42] <Out_Cold> ok so i am trying to un-blacklist bc43xx and add the module to the kernel. I #'d out the line in blacklist but do i restart now?
[23:42] <laclasse> Socah, see if you have an alsa module for comp-pcm-oss or somit
[23:42] <Socah> laclasse, in fact, I removed all e17 packages, even reinstalled ubuntu-desktop metapackage, still can't get back my mixers
[23:42] <Socah> laclasse, ok
[23:42] <puff> Is there a good command to display your file system, partitions, mount points, etc, sort of like a nicely formatted combination of fdisk -l/df -h/mount output?
[23:42] <what_if> Out_Cold: "modprobe bc43xx"
[23:42] <v1d4l0k4> edbian: yeap, it mounts with no problem
[23:42] <laclasse> Socah, can you see the hw ?
[23:42] <laclasse> in lspci or something
[23:42] <someone_> hi i hae a problem
[23:43] <someone_> hi i have a problem
[23:43] <Out_Cold> what_if, Module bcm43xx not found.
[23:43] <KrOlin>  Yo i need help but in spanish! pls xD
[23:43] <nsadmin> someone_: identity?
[23:43] <edbian> v1d4l0k4: Then why do you need to un-pack it?  You have access through mounting yes?
[23:43] <bastidrazor> !es | KrOlin
[23:43] <KrOlin> thanks bro!!
[23:43] <Socah> laclasse, yes, I can - I can even reload my alsa-modules and gain access to mixer with sudo before - none of modules you listed are modprobed
[23:44] <laclasse> Socah, put volume high, and cat a short text file to /dev/dsp
[23:44] <laclasse> hear some sound?
[23:44] <someone_> nsadmin i recently changed the login password and evolution now asks for mail passwords and the default keyring
[23:44] <laclasse> cat foo.txt > /dev/dsp
[23:45] <Socah> laclasse, premission denied, even with sudo
[23:45] <what_if> Out_Cold: hmmm.... maybe it is called b43 ??
[23:45] <nsadmin> someone_: so either change the password on the keyring too or (not recommended) change the login passwd back
[23:45] <laclasse> Socah, ls -;l /dev/dsp shows ?
[23:45] <laclasse> err
[23:45] <laclasse> Socah, ls -l /dev/dsp shows ?
[23:46] <Socah> laclasse, crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-07-14 18:42 /dev/dsp
[23:46] <laclasse> Socah, ewww
[23:46] <Socah> 777 lol
[23:46] <laclasse> Socah, you went desperate
[23:46] <laclasse> Socah, are you in the 'audio' group ?
[23:46] <pycal> hey, i'm trying to boot 9.04 toram.  when I'm loading from my 2gb usb flash drive I have options to: run ubuntu persistently, install, boot from first hard drive, and get help. when i press tab on boot persistently i get what i think are some options, but when i append 'toram' it doesn't seem to do anything. what am i doing wrong?
[23:46] <laclasse> id [enter]
[23:46] <Out_Cold> what_if, there is b43 and bc43xx
[23:46] <k5ehx> latest ubuntu update broke Xorg, gives error in intel_drv. Is this a known issue?
[23:47] <someone_> nsadmin : but  i dont even remember setting one,is there a way to recover it in order to change it?
[23:47] <Socah> laclasse, sudo gpasswd -a geezus audio, made this
[23:47] <Socah> laclasse, this could help -> alsamixer from user is "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[23:47] <laclasse> Socah, ran asoundconf as root?
[23:47] <edbian> someone_: You set it when you originally gave the system your desired user name and password at install.  The keyring is in Application -> Accessories
[23:48] <gabriel-bezerra> hi guys, is there a problem with python upgrade to the newest version?
[23:48] <gabriel-bezerra> hi guys, is there a problem with python upgrade to the latest* version?
[23:48] <Socah> laclasse, no such package, I will search in synaptics
[23:48] <laclasse> Socah, thats usualy a permission issue
[23:48] <Socah> laclasse, as I guess, it is
[23:48] <gabriel-bezerra> my programs made in python stoped working
[23:49] <gabriel-bezerra> after a system upgrade
[23:49] <aleksio> good day. have little question: I try to convert mkv-file to avi via ffmpeg. but mkv have 3 audio streams. how i can use for convertation only video (#0) and one of all (#3) audio stream?
[23:49] <k5ehx> gabriel-bezerra: did you check the first line of the script to make sure it is pointing to a valid binary?
[23:49] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, do which python
[23:49] <gabriel-bezerra> hum....
[23:50] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, it probably made python 3.0 default and it broke compatibility
[23:50] <what_if> Out_Cold: have you installed b43-fwcutter?
[23:50] <someone_> ebbian : so the default keyring is my previous password..?
[23:50] <laclasse> Socah, $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/asoundconf => alsa-utils: /usr/bin/asoundconf
[23:50] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, dunno just guessing
[23:50] <gabriel-bezerra> ok
[23:50] <gabriel-bezerra> let me see here
[23:50] <gabriel-bezerra> when i run python shell and type import random
[23:51] <gabriel-bezerra> it happens an error
[23:51] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, ah
[23:51] <gabriel-bezerra> kind of library problems
[23:51] <laclasse> Socah, also tell me the perms of  /dev/snd/pcm*
[23:51] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, python path
[23:51] <syslq78> check it
[23:51] <gabriel-bezerra> how do i do it? whereis python ??
[23:51] <Socah> laclasse, crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 6 2009-07-14 18:42 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[23:52] <k5ehx> anybody have a clue why Xorg would start bombing after a normal update? I says "Saw signal 11"
[23:52] <laclasse> Socah, no other devices?
[23:52] <gabriel-bezerra> sysdoc, $whereis python ??
[23:52] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, start python
[23:52] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, print sys.path
[23:52] <Socah> laclasse, it's only one, snd-hda-intel integrated card on laptop
[23:52] <syslq78> or print(sys.path) <-- python 3.x
[23:52] <laclasse> Socah, i have the same ... this should give you 3 devices ...
[23:53] <sebastien> how can i update to python 3.0, i selec
[23:53] <Apollo2366> Are there any good audio editors for linux?
[23:53] <gabriel-bezerra> syslq78, to do that i have to import sys, right?
[23:53] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, from what you told it seems python can not find that lib so it's not in path probably
[23:53] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, yeah, you mean any lib doesnt work?
[23:53] <mcphail> Apollo2366: audacity for simple things, ardour for more complex
[23:53] <laclasse> Socah, only time i have seen this is when someone deactivated the winmodem in the bios of the laptop
[23:53] <laclasse> Socah, you haven't made any changes to that have you?
[23:53] <Apollo2366> mcphail, audacity is dead to me, I'll look into ardour.
[23:53] <syslq78> mcphail, how about video editor :)
[23:53] <sebastien> i installed it from the synaprics but python -V gives me python v 2.6.4 or sth in the same libe
[23:54] <Socah> laclasse, damn, you ask about this in /dev/snd/pcm - I got 3 devices, all with same premissions
[23:54] <mcphail> syslq78: i use cinelerra, but it does crash rather a lot
[23:54] <rpx__> could someone help me with sound,, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e8be8c6ba3f70045bb1bd35954b3aa70f8d71725
[23:54] <syslq78> mcphail, linux lacks normal video editor
[23:55] <aleksio> how i can use for convertation mkv to avi only  one of 3 audio streams?
[23:55] <syslq78> mcphail, normal quality, there are some kickass enterpise systems for video editing and post production based on linux but they are high end systems that cost $$$$$$
[23:55] <mcphail> syslq78: cinelerra is a very full featured compositing video editor. Just a bit unstable
[23:55] <laclasse> Socah, you should have a total of 6 files in there, with 3 of them starting with 'pcm', is this the case?
[23:55] <Socah> laclasse, what's a strange thing, when I round asoundconf, it ask me to install alsa-utils, when I try to install alsa-utils, it says it's installed
[23:55] <syslq78> mcphail, I'm not ms fanboy obviously since I do use *nixes a lot but no free tool on linux comes close to windows movie maker, not to mention "normal" tools that cost
[23:56] <Apollo2366> mcphail, you wouldn't happen to know why audacity would freeze every few minutes do you?
[23:56] <mcphail> syslq78: i think some people use blender for video editing as well
[23:56] <syslq78> mcphail, blender is kickass :)
[23:56] <laclasse> Socah, uh
[23:56] <Socah> laclasse, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p - all I have
[23:56] <laclasse> ok great
[23:56] <Apollo2366> syslq78, agreed
[23:56] <mcphail> Apollo2366: no. don't use it much but never had any problems like that
[23:57] <Apollo2366> mcphail, oh well. I'm done with it anyway, if ardour turns out to be good.
[23:57] <syslq78> mcphail, there is cinerlerra fork that is said to be better
[23:57] <rpx__> hey, anyone that is a alsa guru and could help me get my sound working. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e8be8c6ba3f70045bb1bd35954b3aa70f8d71725
[23:57] <Okay> Anyone use turboprint and knows how to remove the watermark manually?
[23:57] <mcphail> syslq78: yes - that's what i use
[23:57] <laclasse> Socah, would only say dpkg -P (apt-get remove --purge) all alsa-utils and reget them all from the same sources.list
[23:57] <quincy> how do i set up my printer for network use?
[23:57] <laclasse> Socah, big sources.list ?
[23:57] <quincy> mainly for windows pcs(this is the only ubuntu pc i have
[23:58] <mcphail> Apollo2366: make sure to install a realtime kernel, use jack for audio etc if you want best results
[23:58] <skellington> hey guys, recently switched over from a brief stint with debian to ubuntu. i installed ubuntu netbook remix and was wondering how i could speed up my boot. also, i cant seem to connect to my wpa secured network. im using an atheros wireless card. any ideas?
[23:58] <Socah> laclasse, a bit, 2x ppa's, + rest from official ubuntu repositories
[23:58] <gabriel-bezerra> syslq78, i can import math, for example
[23:58] <khazil> Okay: Is there a modern CUPS driver for your printer?
[23:58] <laclasse> Socah, comment the ppa's and anything exotic would you?
[23:59] <k5ehx> avidemux is nice for converting video
[23:59] <Socah> sure
[23:59] <Okay> khazil, it's a canon pixma mp470
[23:59] <gabriel-bezerra> syslq78, so i think it is not a problem in path, ok?
[23:59] <syslq78> gabriel-bezerra, what is the error ?
[23:59] <Okay> khazil, i think turboprint is the only way to go for that printer
[23:59] <mcphail> skellington: what are you booting? My netbook boots in a few seconds with UNR
[23:59] <pycal> hey, i'm trying to boot 9.04 toram.  when I'm loading from my 2gb usb flash drive I have options to: run ubuntu persistently, install, boot from first hard drive, and get help. when i press tab on boot persistently i get what i think are some options, but when i append 'toram' it doesn't seem to do anything. what am i doing wrong?
[23:59] <fwaokda> how can i open a program through terminal without it being dependent on the terminal staying open???
[23:59] <wrinkliez> any suggestions as to why the flash plugin isnt workign in opera?
[23:59] <gabriel-bezerra> syslq78, it is quite big
[23:59] <syslq78> paste me on private
[23:59] <KB1JWQ> fwaokda: screen is your friend.
[23:59] <mcphail> fwaokda: add a "&" after the command