[09:21] <kwwii> good morning
[09:21] <kwwii> mac_v: the flickr avatar is myself at age 7 or so
[09:46] <mac_v> 0.0
[09:52] <SiDi> O.o
[09:59] <kwwii> the flickr group is really amazing...some very nice photos there
[10:07] <MadsRH> kwwii -> +1 I really love the softness and color in this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/40413350@N04/3717062240/sizes/l/in/pool-556923@N24/
[10:26]  * SiDi loves http://www.flickr.com/photos/forteller/54518831/in/pool-ubuntu-artwork http://www.flickr.com/photos/28613801@N02/3716269755/in/pool-ubuntu-artwork and http://www.flickr.com/photos/hisgett/3266986973/in/pool-ubuntu-artwork
[10:31] <kwwii> hehehe, everyone has their favorites ;)
[10:45] <kwwii> jair0: !!!
[10:46] <kwwii> dude
[10:47] <jair0> kwwii, hey man !
[10:47] <mat_t> hi everyone
[10:48] <JonDoe297> mat_t: hello :)
[10:48] <mat_t> short announcement - we need more ideas for the boot splash! Please keep them coming! :)
[10:48] <mat_t> JonDoe297, hi
[10:49] <JonDoe297> Mr.doob's boot seems perfect for me :)
[10:50] <mat_t> yes it's good, but we want to try some different concepts, too
[10:50] <SiDi> hiya mat_t
[10:50] <mat_t> and - most importantly - we don't necessarily need a progress bar anymore
[10:50] <mat_t> hey SiDi
[10:51] <SiDi> I liked the idea of a sunrise
[10:51] <mac_v> mat_t: have you seen MadsRH ubuntu promo? looks great
[10:51] <mac_v> something like that might be tough to implement for boot?
[10:52] <mat_t> SiDi: yes, I like the sunrise metaphor - as long as it's subtle and abstract
[10:53] <mat_t> mac_v: not sure
[10:53] <mat_t> mac_v: got a link?
[10:54] <JonDoe297> http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/07/random-artwork.html
[10:54] <JonDoe297> this?
[10:54] <mac_v> mat_t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdxE55K-Wvw&feature=related
[10:54] <mat_t> ah yes, I saw that
[10:54] <mat_t> I think it's great!
[10:55] <mac_v> MadsRH: any chances of seen something like that for boot?
[10:55] <mac_v> seeing^
[10:56] <mat_t> MadsRH: hi
[10:58] <mat_t> mac_v: MadsRH: that would fit perfectly with our motto: "light Ubuntu inside your machine"
[10:58] <mat_t> ;)
[11:01] <mac_v> my thoughts too
[11:03] <mat_t> when designing that it's worth remembering that it's something users will see many many times - hence abstracting is better than being too literal
[11:04] <mat_t> by the way, does anyone run Karmic already?
[11:05] <mat_t> I do on my other laptop and the boot is pretty fast already...
[11:05] <mat_t> splash screen appears for literally few seconds
[11:07] <mat_t> thorwil: hi
[11:07] <mat_t> :)
[11:07] <mat_t> thorwil: fancy having a go as well?
[11:09] <kwwii> thorwil: btw, we're goign to discuss the countdown banner today, I'll be in touch
[11:09]  * mat_t feels like he did enough preaching for today... He will shut up now, unless someone speaks first
[11:10] <mac_v> mat_t: since the splash screen appears for just a few sec, i think the fire would be a nice touch
[11:11] <SiDi> What about a running mouse so we can steal the animation without effort for Xubuntu ? ( knome <-) !!
[11:14] <mac_v> SiDi: you could just add a mouse in front of the fire ;p
[11:14] <knome> :P
[11:15] <thorwil> mat_t: hi. no, too busy otherwise
[11:18] <mat_t> thorwil: fair enough :)
[11:19] <mat_t> mac_v: yes I'd like to try fire, too! We also have to consider a corner case when the boot takes very long for some reason
[11:19] <SiDi> mat_t: make the pc physically burn ?
[11:20] <thorwil> SiDi: that would be silly. but a rotating head, decaying to a skull could work!!
[11:20] <mac_v> lol
[11:20] <mat_t> SiDi: yeah, why not. That would be something else. :)
[11:22] <mat_t> So I think the fire idea is interesting, but I think needs abstracting - let's not get too close to ubuntu satanic and likes :)
[11:22] <SiDi> thorwil: for satanic edition ? :D
[11:24] <mac_v> mat_t: just seems MadsRH is not interested in doing it ;p
[11:25] <mac_v> a bit less width of the fire would be nice
[11:29] <mat_t> mac_v: yes, I'm also thinking of somehow containing the fire. Like in a hole you can see it through
[11:35] <knome> ...a hole?
[11:39] <mac_v> knome: ^ naughty
[11:39] <mac_v> ;p
[11:40] <knome> oh really? :)
[11:40] <MadsRH> mac_v -> Sorry, I was just away :-) No, I didn't plan to create a version for the boot experience, but perhaps I should look into it
[11:41] <mac_v> MadsRH: now i was just kidding.... but i had asked about it in the mailing list...i just thought you felt it was difficult
[11:42] <MadsRH> I'll post any progress to the wiki of course - but I'm not sure I will find the time.
[11:42]  * mac_v looking forward to seeing awesome boot \o/
[11:45] <MadsRH> Like I wrote in the post this is based on a template, so basiclly this isn't my work ;-) No credit to me. I'm just learning After Effects and it's simply awesome
[11:46] <michote> mac_v: thoughts? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-uncertain.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-worried.png
[11:47] <mac_v> the uncertain looks good, but reduce the shine on the "?"
[11:48] <mac_v> its almost white at the top
[11:48] <mac_v> michote: ^
[11:49] <mac_v> michote: maybe no shine would look good too
[11:49] <michote> mac_v: ok
[11:50] <thorwil> michote: consider to deform the right eye to make it all look more organic
[11:50] <michote> mac_v: I wanted it to look like tired
[11:52] <mac_v> michote: the tired is a bag,object which has shape, but "?" doesnt need to be , if you do the 3D "?"then it would need shine
[11:53] <mac_v> but just without shine is better. , also try thorwil's suggestion
[11:53] <mac_v> michote: worried could have some red, indicating > flushed
[11:56] <michote> thorwil: do you maen just reduce height, or a different eye-style?
[11:57] <thorwil> michote: well, a resemblance to what happens with a real eye if one tried to make such a mimic
[12:22] <michote> mac_v: thorwil: better? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-uncertain2.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-worried2.png
[12:36] <mac_v> michote: red, i meant a hint of red throughout the face... of red is no good , try darkening the face
[12:37] <mac_v> michote: and for the uncertain eye , i dont think that is what thorwil meant, the "?" looks good
[14:02] <chaotic> njpatel: hey, Ivanka wanted me to get in contact - said you were missing some stuff for UNR :)
[19:02] <zniavre> hello / bonjour
[19:02] <ryanprior> bonjour zniavre
[19:02] <zniavre> do you know this project of thumbnailer it looks really nice > http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6297/capture1g.png
[19:03] <zniavre> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=330803
[19:08] <SiDi> ryanprior: you're frnech too ? :O
[19:09] <ryanprior> SiDi: I'm living in Québec and learning French
[19:11] <SiDi> okies :)
[20:06] <FLOZz> Hi _o/
[20:14] <SiDi> ih
[20:19] <michote> mac_v: Are you there? Is this red enough? more? less? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/rect6282.png
[20:20] <mac_v> michote:a bit too much
[20:20] <mac_v> its now more like orange
[20:21] <mac_v> michote: you could have used the same blush but extended the extent
[20:24] <michote>  mac_v: ok. I also don't have any good Idea for the right eye of uncertain
[20:24] <mac_v> michote: then leave the eyes same size
[20:33] <michote> mac_v: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/worried.png or extend more?
[20:35] <mac_v> michote: looks good , i remember the 24px didnt have the correct  pixel alignment of the eyebrows, didnt you start this from the surprise? but the surprise seems to be aligned better or is it my eyes?
[20:38] <michote> mac_v: I copied them from surprise, maybe I displaced thme in 24px. I'll take a look ;)
[20:46] <michote> mac_v: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-uncertain.png http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-worried.png Do you think they're ok now?
[20:49] <mac_v> uncertain looks good
[20:50] <mac_v> michote: worried, could you try extending the blush even more to the top? lets see how that looks?
[20:51] <mac_v> michote: especially for the smaller sizes... we could see how that works
[20:52] <michote> mac_v: better? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/face-worried.png
[20:55] <mac_v> michote: yup.a little better... submit it , we'll see what cory says
[20:56] <michote> mac_v: ok
[23:04] <mrdoob> hello hello o/
[23:05] <SiDi> hi