[14:56] <riky123123> anyone can suggest  a good free web builder?
[15:00] <knome> gedit
[15:08] <riky123123> does it have an admin where i can modify it ?
[15:28] <knome> ..it's a text editor.
[15:30] <SiDi> riky123123: if you are looking for something like dreamweaver, my ideals about the web will unfortunately prevent me from answering you :P
[15:30] <SiDi> otherwise gedit isnt that bad. If you do XML/XSLT, Oxygen is good but im not sure if they have a linux version
[15:51] <knome> gedit has nice color highlighting :P
[20:14] <jpds> AH! Where's newz?
[21:48] <MT-> jpds: I think he said he's been traveling a lot lately so no reliable connection
[21:48] <jpds> MT-: So I read later on.
[21:48] <MT-> :)
[21:48] <MT-> jpds: since you have nothing to do without him for the moment.... fix my site :)
[21:50] <jpds> MT-: Howso? :)
[21:51] <MT-> This error - Fatal error: Cannot redeclare udcountdown_install() (previously declared in /home/michael/ubuntu-drupal-dev/countdown/udcountdown.install:9) in /home/michael/ubuntu-drupal-dev/iebanner/udiebanner.install on line 9
[21:51] <MT-> no explanation why it's happening.. the thing shouldn't be looking at the install file and there's no reason for the file to be called twice
[21:53] <knome> where's the module source?
[21:54] <MT-> /home/michael/ubuntu-drupal-dev/countdown/
[21:54] <knome> i have no /home/michael? ;)
[21:54] <MT-> If I remember the first function, it complains about the next one being duplicated
[21:56] <jpds> MT-: Sorry, I don't really do PHP.
[21:56] <MT-> jpds: you do now, now fix it
[21:56] <knome> i can try to help, if somebody points me to the source
[21:56] <knome> ...
[21:56] <knome> the internet source, not the global :P
[21:56] <MT-> I think I just managed to get it. I removed the file, ran update.php, then moved the file back
[21:57] <knome> okay.
[21:57] <MT-> knome: thanks though - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-countdown
[21:57] <knome> okay, might look at it anyway.
[21:57] <knome> is there a module for wordpress ors hould somebody write one?
[21:58] <MT-> it would have to be written
[21:59] <knome> okay.
[21:59] <knome> is there any interest toward one?
[21:59] <MT-> not for me, I use Drupal for my blogs
[22:00] <MT-> You could sure grab that are try to make one :)
[22:01] <knome> "try" ;)
[22:01] <knome> i think that is only matter of doing or not doing :)
[22:02] <MT-> knome: well, if you're going to redo that, then you need a cron - I didn't think wordpress had a built in cron
[23:01] <knome> hm.
[23:01] <knome> suppose it doesn't. but does drupal do then?
[23:02] <MT-> knome: yup
[23:02] <MT-> there's a _cron hook that you just toss in the module
[23:02] <knome> right..
[23:02] <knome> i have used drupal in a few client projects
[23:03] <knome> i don't remember seeing a cron or then it wasn't good enough so i had to install some cron module
[23:04] <MT-> when did you use it last?
[23:04] <MT-> idk about D4, but D5 and D6 both do
[23:04] <knome> umm... i think it's about 3 months, but the last time i looked at the cron stuff it must've been like 6 months.
[23:04] <knome> i used 5
[23:05] <MT-> The whole point of the cron is so that it can pull the latest source for banner options. I'm guessing you saw that already though
[23:06] <knome> didn't look at the source code yeat
[23:06] <knome> *yet
[23:06] <knome> i suppose there is wp cron plugins
[23:40] <MT-> knome: the module itself is really simple. Check if a value changed, if it does it downalods and unpacks a tarball - the admin section lets you pick an option
[23:40] <knome> right
[23:40] <MT-> you looked already?
[23:40] <knome> nope.
[23:40] <knome> but understood already:)
[23:40] <MT-> oh
[23:41] <MT-> that's about all there is to it
[23:42] <knome> yep
[23:42] <knome> i might look at it soonish